Gotta say, Josh & Jay have really great chemistry together. They like the same weird & obscure stuff & understand each other's references. They really play so well off each other.
@@jamiegibson5506 To Jay, Mike and Rich Evans are just co-workers, hence his cynical humorous tone with them. But since Josh is his one and only obscure butt buddy, they have a loving and respectful relationship.
@@jayvang7490 nah jay has great chemistry with mike and, rich it's just different than the chemistry he was with Josh. Jay just seems like the straight man to Mike's over the top humor. And, rich is the everyman.
The reason for so many characters in the Final Chapter is probably because the filmmakers thought it would only be appropriate if Jason killed 13 people in the Final Chapter, which he does.
35 years later the world still has not caught up the artistic perfection of the Crispin Glover dance. One day humanity will mature and we will embrace it as the language of the universe.
The fact that the original Friday The 13th had a budget of like *$550.000,* and then would take in about *$60.000.000* in total around the world, is actually kind of insane if you think about it. It's no surprise that a cheap cash-in movie making revenue like that would be getting milked until it was dry, and then milked some more, and then even further.
My middle school years were characterized by me and my mom staying up late at her apartment watching these movies and laughing our heads off. These movies may be crap, but they're entertaining as all hell and important to me.
@@mikebliss3153 yeah, I’d agree, although I think the big difference is for awhile Goldblum was everywhere where Glover just shows up on rare occasions
I feel the reason that numbers 4 & 6 are the best is that they had enjoyable characters, not just bodies for the slaughter. It's more impressionable when you DON'T want to see everyone die.
@Tom Ffrench Part 6 had an amazing soundtrack and CJ Graham was fantastic as Jason. He's my favorite Jason personally. 6 is just so well directed and it doesn't feel like you're watching a movie made in the 80's.
Yeah this was truly amazing, pretty sure Jay also edits these and cutting to a still of him while cisco and ebert talk about how you have to be an awful person to like this movie was gold. The fucking list he whips out that still has errors is so fucking perfect too
Yes! I thought the same about the grave digger's straight-to-camera line, too... felt like an Airplane! moment to me, and I thought of that movie the moment Jay started talking about pre-Scream "fourth wall breaking" movies.
The 80's were awesome but I don't remember much because I was a kid but I do remember 1989 because I wanted to see Batman and at the time I liked Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles a lot. Certain memories I remember almost perfectly and it feels weird that is even from the 80's because I listen to and watch so many 80's movies and songs that I sometimes forget I was even alive during half those years.
I know "Pre:Rec" wasn't every RLM fan's cup of tea, but Rich and Jack played the Friday the 13th videogame a lot because they enjoyed it so much, and Jay joined in a few times. Check 'em out when you have time and need a fresh RLM "fix" between new content.
The best two episodes were when Jay played and accidentally created a legit Friday the 13th moment because he couldn't drive. The other was the guy playing Jason like Freddy, using horrible puns while killing. It was glorious.
I've always said that the big 3 slashers (Jason, Michael Myers, Freddy) are essentially modernized reimagining of the Universal Big 3: Dracula, Frankenstein and the Wolfman. Freddy is dracula, the seducer, the one that comes to you in your sleep. Jason is Frankenstein, the blunt instrument force of nature that won't stop. And Michael Myers is the Wolfman, the relentless evil within that ultimately erases their humanity. When you see them through that lens, all 3 franchises really snap into focus even with the worst of their sequels. But I WILL say in Friday's defense, it had more solid sequels than the other two franchises.
@@SNNetwork well the story goes he has alot of bad things to say about Spielberg and was partially black listed. but that's probably a story for another time, and probably another youtube channel all together.
I mean... that's widely understood when discussing movies like these to be a double entendre reflecting a real relation in the language of movie making
Remember when Gene Siskel threw such a piss fit about the first movie that he doxed Betsy Palmer and told people to write to her about how evil the movie was, and called the director "one of the most despicable creatures ever to infest the movie business"?
@@xsnowfrightx growing up I watched a lot of their reviews, but took them the exact opposite of intended, as if the liked a movie I’d know it would normally be artsy crap, but if the hated it then there was a decent chance it would be good. They never seemed to care about a movies, as an entertainment media and instead always a platform for artistic expression and sending messages. There’s nothing wrong with a film doing either of those things, but they aren’t required to make a movie fun, or entertaining.
So, take this from someone who watched the Camp Crystal Lake Memories documentary: Six was the introduction of the Frankenstein Monster theme, but Seven was the one where his actual personality as a movie monster started, as Kane Hodder donned the mask and added certain flourishes to the character, such as the 'slow head turn' and 'angry shiver'. Small things, but it gives a show of the sort of singular mind within.
Because of Jay talking about them so often, and Rich Evans playing the awesome video game, I watched all the Friday 13th movies around the holidays last year. I definitely recommend watching these movies while wrapping gifts, it may be a new holiday tradition for me.
Ebert's read on this film was so strange. Did anyone watch these movies and come out of them thinking "oh no, will I ever be able to achieve my future dreams?!"
His main point is that the film offers no hope and that character motivation and plot are practically non existent which like jay edits in the video “this is all true” ebert just seems to be virtue signaling about his high moral standards.
@@briandeweyforbes I mean yeah I pretty much agree with everything you said, but ebert is posturing a moral high ground, which he does have, I’d personally agree with him for the most part he isn’t wrong in his general analysis, but he clearly doesn’t get the film’s intent. It’s schlock of the finest caliber with absolutely no pretense. It’s mindless entertainment, and if ebert had just said “hey it’s not for me but if there’s an audience, knock yourselves out.” I’m a Christian and I fancy myself to have good moral fiber, but I’m not going posture on films that don’t live up to my personal moral expectations, its art and I have to observe it as such
If you're a movie reviewer, you think the whole world revolves around movies. I love movies, but the ones that have significantly affected my life in some material way? Maybe two?
Ebert's anti-slasher film crusade isn't even the funniest thing he was KINDA involved in. I'd argue that time he gave a blatant Last House on the Left rip-off a super negative review, only for its meathead director and his producer friend to try to make a really half-assed feud out it was pure comedy, especially when the film's director starts ranting about Ebert shirtless with a backdrop of actual cadavers in a morgue.
@@GasmaskAvenger I loved Ebert, even if I totally disagreed with him half the time. He stuck to his guns and it always felt like his genuine opinion on movies, not something he was paid off to say, support or slam. The funniest thing I think was him being "cast" in the awful 90's American Godzilla movie as an insult, but him just being somewhat flattered and confused.
I love how the same guy who once said: "Nobody ever said art has to be in good taste" and wrote Beyond the Valley of the Dolls is the one bashing Friday the 13th 4 for being just about gore and tits.
Both reviewers have always been overrated morons. So many of their opinions are insanely conflicting, to the point of moral pandering. They are just pretentious dicks.
Ebert was really weird with the moral handwringing around horror movies in particular, it bled into his reviews of most David Lynch films too for some weird reason.
Personally i don't get why people care so much about them, they seem biased, obtuse and even a bit captious in all of the reviews i watched (not many, to be fair). I don't live in North America so i didn't grew up with them, maybe it's a nostalgia thing ? I have nothing against them as human beings, but they don't strike me as serious critics. "If you enjoy this you enjoy a person being stabbed..". That's..that's so bad it sounds like a joke almost.
So given the relationship you've cultivated with Mac, maybe you can have Feldman as a special guest star. Mac, Corey Feldman, and Rich Evans on a special Child Stars episode of BOTW.
In regards to "early meta horror", that movie with Joe Spinell and Caroline Munro from 1982 "The Last Horror Film" is another great example of a meta horror film with all kinds of references to horror movies, how movies work and whatnot with the Cannes Film Festival as a backdrop for everything
MADHOUSE (1974) Vincent Price plays a horror star and goes on a talk show in a scene just like the one in NEW NIUGHTMARE where Robert Englund goes on a talk show plus other "meta" bits.
Friday the 13th part VI is special to me. The summer of 1986, I was 16 and I got my first job at a newly opened 6-screen movie theater. It was the first more-than-2-screen theater back in the day in my area. I forget all the movies we had at opening, but this was one of them. Now, the fun things... I was 16. This was an R movie where you couldn't go see it without a parent unless you were 18... so I thoroughly enjoyed being 16 year-old and throwing out 17-year-olds who were too young to see the movie that I would see several times a day every day for weeks :) Also, sometimes about 30-45 minutes into the movie... I would quietly go into the theater and just before one of the big scenes I would take both hands, palms open and slap the back wall of the theater as hard as I could... most people in the theater would jump! :) Also also... when we opened we were given only one movie trailer to show before every movie. Normally you'd expect to see 2-3 movie trailers before the feature started, but not us... we only had one trailer to show before each film... the trailer to Friday the 13th Part VI. And, yes... if you paid to see that movie, you also saw the trailer for that movie before seeing the actual movie itself. It was very meta.
The reason that the word "final" appears in the title of a couple of the Friday the 13th movies is because the producers wanted all their fans to feel like they had some closure on the series before they died, even if there were fans that died between movies. The producers understood that it doesn't matter what your dreams and hopes and ambitions are; it doesn't matter if you have a new boyfriend or a new girlriend or a new movie is coming out, you can forget those plans, because you're going to wind up dead.
Even the mask doesn't make any sense after a point. It gets cracked in half down the middle and then charred up in part 7. Then, the new mask he finds at the start of Manhattan happens to have an axe mark in at as well for some reason. This whole franchise has a "just roll with it" attitude that I kind of love. Jason's own origin makes no sense and they didn't even bother to correct it in the remake. 😂 Part VI is probably my favorite in this whole series because of the comedic/smartass tone.
@@caseyoberle7341 he wasn't dead, kid Jason as the end of the first is a dream. I don't remember him being unnaturally strong in the 2-3-4 like in the others, but he's an invincible zombie since the sixth where he got resurrected.
Actually, they did fix Jason's origin. Jason was raised by the same guy who took care of Michael Myers between HALLOWEEN 4 and HALLOWEEN 5 ( as seen in the beginning of 5). ;D
Canonically, Jason is actually a powerful deadite. Jason's mother used the Necronomicon from Evil Dead 1, 2 / Army of Darkness / Ash v Evil Dead to bring her boy back to life. This retcon clears up quite a few continuity questions, like why he can continue to grow, and can't really be killed, and why he can possess other people. If you want more of the details, you'd have to hunt down, or at least look up, Freddy v Jason v Ash, a 6-issue limited edition comic from 2007-2008. It was originally a working screenplay pitched for the Freddy v Jason sequel. The only reason the movie was not made was because of some issue between Bruce Campbell (Ash) and New Line Cinema. It's kind of like how the Ghostbusters game (recently remastered) is the actual 3rd Ghostbusters movie that was never made, but is super canon (and would have seen the Paul Fieg trainwreck make more sense and been more publicly acceptable if they worked it in to the lore and didn't attempt a soft, hard-reboot).
Judging from Josh and Jay's fascination with editing, I would highly recommend a re:View of A History of Violence. David Cronenberg specifically went for the kind of momentary but highly focused editing style that Jay talked about.
The original Friday the 13th is really neat for introducing to new audiences. Everyone already knows Jason, so the ending becomes a great and unexpected twist.
The fact that Jason exists and everybody knows him makes the twist at least somewhat interesting. On its own though, it had no build up and all and when it happens it's kinda like well it's this random person we didn't know about in the end lol. A really weird instance where the fact that there has been time to set the future movies into culture helps something that wasn't good about the first movie.
@@Cheesehead302 actually, I watched the movie as a kid in the early 80s. At the time, that ending was fucking great. You didn't know if it was a dream or if she was actually attacked by a boy in the lake. Of course, I knew nothing about Jason at the time, because I hadn't seen the sequel yet.
I saw that one late night on the BBC ages ago. I must have been in just the right mood cause when I saw it on DVD recently and re-watched it, I was kinda like, meh.
I like the green light in this video, it makes one guy look like he is getting his hair ready for a timely 2008 The Dark Knight Joker Halloween costume and the other looks like he is turning into the Hulk but just on his neck. He must be just mildly annoyed and not want to totally Hulk up.
in Police Story 1, Jackie Chan throws so many bad guys through glass in the end fight scene at a mall; vice versa, the bad guys throw Jackie Chan and a witness through an equal amount of glass. At one point, Jackie hits his head against glass, but it doesn’t break, so they bust his head against it AGAIN and then it breaks
Is that the one in which Jackie slides down a tube and breaks a lot of lights that were attached to it? He burned his hands pretty bad there it seems like the tube was very hot due the lights, love those old Jackie Chan movies they were so fun Armour of God was a childhood favourite of mine, good times.
You know, for the guy who wrote Valley of The Dolls, Roger Ebert sure did spend a lot of time bitching and moaning about violence and gore in the 1980s.
This has always irked me. Even more so when people DEFEND him for that. But I guess it's a lot like now, where people will have the "rules for thee, not for me" mindset.
It is odd. At the time, the appeal of these movies were how 'naughty' they were. I wouldn't be surprised if the two were 'incentivized' to say how violent and awful it is to actually make it more appealing to its core audience.
He loved both Halloween and Re-Animator (4/4 and 3/4 respectively). If I had to guess, maybe this quote from his Re-Animator review might give a clue: "One of the most boring experiences on Earth is a trash movie without the courage of its lack of convictions. If it only wants to be cynical, it becomes lifeless in every moment - a bad dream on the screen. One of the pleasures of the movies, however, is to find a movie that chooses a disreputable genre and then tries with all its might to transcend the genre, to go over the top into some kind of artistic vision, however weird."
@@homelessjesse9453 but Ordinary People is better than Raging Bull, and arguably Empire. Just note I haven’t seen Elephant Man, which is probably the best film of that year from what I’ve heard.
@Shane Green I think they mentioned it in the rotld Re:View, but the black guy from Part 5 was also in rotld, which also had Tommy Jarvis, but played by a different actor.
Return Of The Living Dead is just my favorite movie ever. There I am, going through life blissfully unaware, and I see that re:View episode, and it makes me go *"Hold on, wait, how have I missed this movie? This looks like it was made for me! I must see it!"* If anyone is looking for a copy, the UK Special Edition Blu-Ray will have the audio 99% intact (one song is changed to a version without vocals), unlike many releases which have swapped out all the music, even some of the zombie voice acting, which is some bullshit. Regrettably though, this version doesn't have any of the audio commentary.
I wouldn’t go that far. Poltergeist is funnier and that’s not even a horror comedy. It definitely is a great sequel. Also part 4 is better in my estimation.
Man, that montage of slashers brings back memories. I have a soft spot for The Burning. Managed to catch it on the big screen at a festival about ten years ago. Good times.
Crystal Lake Memories really is a legit documentary. I got it with a torrent pack of all of the Friday The 13th movies, and I ended up enjoying it way more than anything else.
I think they're exactly right that the Friday the 13th series is cinematic comfort food. It's a calming mix of schlock, bad acting, sporadic good effects from Savini, bad comedy, etc. Think about Grandma's meatloaf. It's not Michelin star cuisine, but you love it BECAUSE it's Grandma's meatloaf and always will be.
"It doesn't matter what your dreams are.... you're going to wind up dead." -Roger Ebert
Thats why I watch RLM.
Well don’t worry, no one’s ever really gone
I like to imagine that I have dreams.
@@lorddevilfish5868 It's about family
@@abc-oq7dt and that’s what so powerful about it!
My dream is to die.
1:41
Ebert: "The world is a horrible place, it wants you dead"
Caption: "THIS IS ALL TRUE"
Yup, that's Jay's editing.
I'M DEAD INSIDE!
I laughed at this part a lot harder then I should’ve.
Don’t worry because no one’s ever really gone!
Is Jay saying this is all true of Ebert's opinion of the movie or is he saying it's true of the world? Am I reading too much into this?
@@lorddevilfish5868 nice callback bro👍😝
The funniest thing about "Hey Ted, where the hell's the corkscrew?!" Is Jason being played by Ted White
It's like poetry
@@paleblueadventure it rhymes
and it's so dense.
It's an outtake? ;)
@@garrettmetting6938 fuckin beat me to it by 49 minutes 😂😂
Gotta say, Josh & Jay have really great chemistry together. They like the same weird & obscure stuff & understand each other's references. They really play so well off each other.
I think Jay talks more in this than the combined total of all videos where he’s with Mike. But yeah, these two work great together.
I recently binged a ton of Best of the Worst and came away thinking that Jay and Josh were partners/lovers.
@@jamiegibson5506 To Jay, Mike and Rich Evans are just co-workers, hence his cynical humorous tone with them. But since Josh is his one and only obscure butt buddy, they have a loving and respectful relationship.
@@jayvang7490 nah jay has great chemistry with mike and, rich it's just different than the chemistry he was with Josh. Jay just seems like the straight man to Mike's over the top humor. And, rich is the everyman.
What other videos are they together in? I can remember the twin peaks videos
Not gonna lie. A door is perhaps the worst possible placement for a dartboard.
It's literally a setup for a horrible "Bottom" (UK show) slapstick style injury.
Cut cut, the dart is in the eye, the dart is in the eye!
I know a friend who has her room connected to her kitchen.
And I shit you not they have a dartboard on her door. Surprised no one has died.
@Ian Knight But you can easily take an eye out for sure. Pretty bad still.
@Ian Knight usually you have to poison the tips first.
The reason for so many characters in the Final Chapter is probably because the filmmakers thought it would only be appropriate if Jason killed 13 people in the Final Chapter, which he does.
Here's your 13th upvote.
Oh that's a cool detail
@Giuseppe Shmo I'd like to believe Jason's spirit possessed the paramedic
35 years later the world still has not caught up the artistic perfection of the Crispin Glover dance. One day humanity will mature and we will embrace it as the language of the universe.
Lorde gets it.
Maybe it’s the dance that goes with the fabled song that Bill & Ted will write
its goooood
Elaine Benes in Seinfeld is up there with her dance.
Seinfeld and Twin Peaks are Jay's "Star Trek and Ghost Adventures"
I want a future where Jay slowly transforms into Mike and we get a new Jay
Highly underrated comment here
Ghooost*
I would love to see a couple top 10 Seinfeld episode vids
And Seinfeld and Twin Peaks are my "Star Trek and Ghost Adventures" too. Jay's a good kid, don't be so rough on him.
I love how Jay didn't want to waste color ink on his character chart.
"Nah, this bit isn't worth it"
The fact that the original Friday The 13th had a budget of like *$550.000,* and then would take in about *$60.000.000* in total around the world, is actually kind of insane if you think about it. It's no surprise that a cheap cash-in movie making revenue like that would be getting milked until it was dry, and then milked some more, and then even further.
When Jay says TNG, I half-expected it to function as a summoning incantation for Mike to emerge suddenly from behind the curtains.
He's the man behind the "Masks"
I expected balloons and confetti to rain from the ceiling and Mike to come on screen like a proud father
Or they could have beamed Mike onto the set
@@Issicra that would have been perfect!
He just beams in
Sounds like Roger Ebert reviewed Surviving Edged Weapons
I think he was just reviewing life itself
Rich Evans is my favourite Jason. He is such a dedicated actor he did method acting for the part and murdered a camp full of teenagers!
Don’t forget how Rich was so method he went to space and became a Cyborg and murdered people on a space ship, such a committed actor
Shut up, you got pwned by a 7 year old girl.
That was real!
*sigh*
He gave them all AAAAAIIIIIIIIDS
My middle school years were characterized by me and my mom staying up late at her apartment watching these movies and laughing our heads off. These movies may be crap, but they're entertaining as all hell and important to me.
Yep!
Hate on Jason X all you want. That liquid nitrogen kill is a monumental achievement of film making
@@Rschr101 And faces.
Yup. Epic stuff.
I remember cracking up through that movie...lol
I'll see your Jason X and raise you a Demolition Man and a Terminator 2.
That you can watch on youtube once and then move on lol
You need to make a Jason vs. Rich Evans movie, starring Rich Evans as Jason Vorhees, and Kane Hodder as Rich Evans.
Shut up and take my money
Who is Rich Evans!?
@@maloperverso8118 God
please
Julia Roberts will play the final girl.
I love how Jay's chart of characters lists Crispin Glover's role as Crispin Glover.
Are you familiar with Crispin Glover's work? That's exactly what it is.
@@mikebliss3153 yeah, he’s definitely one of the many, “he always plays himself,” type of actors.
@@johnpatz8395 At least it's entertaining to watch, unlike (say) Jeff Goldblum, which has become more annoying than endearing in recent years.
@@mikebliss3153 yeah, I’d agree, although I think the big difference is for awhile Goldblum was everywhere where Glover just shows up on rare occasions
Jay's transition from human to show pony is nearly complete.
Don't tell YMS
@@bRETTfAVREatgbnyjmni Now I'm thinking about YMS coming as a guest on Best of the Worst and I'm afraid it won't happen.
Needs that old mouth back
@@bRETTfAVREatgbnyjmni he's still in the dungeon working on his Lion king review I don't think he would mind
@@dickthegimp4280 nah
I feel the reason that numbers 4 & 6 are the best is that they had enjoyable characters, not just bodies for the slaughter. It's more impressionable when you DON'T want to see everyone die.
@Tom Ffrench Part 6 had an amazing soundtrack and CJ Graham was fantastic as Jason. He's my favorite Jason personally. 6 is just so well directed and it doesn't feel like you're watching a movie made in the 80's.
I felt that way about 5.
I loved the third one. It's grimier than the rest...it's a cold and mean flick.
My favorite number is 7. Nothing to do with the Friday the 13th franchise, I just like the number 7.
@@ferox965 the third one is by far the most goofy. At least going to space is actually based on science
I like to think that when agent cooper is taken to the velvet room there’s a one percent chance that he just sees two dudes talking about old movies.
"The initial penetration is off camera"
Just another day on set at Redlettermedia
I assume they had to edit out Rich laughing.
This is probably the most "JAY" episode this format could ever have.
More like... ‘Jay-son’.
Yeah this was truly amazing, pretty sure Jay also edits these and cutting to a still of him while cisco and ebert talk about how you have to be an awful person to like this movie was gold. The fucking list he whips out that still has errors is so fucking perfect too
@@joekane622 Siskel... Siskel and Ebert.
@@SamSphinx amazing, I didnt think it was right so I typed it into google and it didn't correct me. Welp, teach me to rely on that
@UC-RuDbacS77VTGKN4G6arVQ how dare you
Edit: apparently, I replied to a comment that got deleted.
You know Jay's having a good time when he makes a chart.
That little girl with the Jean-Paul Sartre book feels like a Zucker Brothers gag.
Yes! I thought the same about the grave digger's straight-to-camera line, too... felt like an Airplane! moment to me, and I thought of that movie the moment Jay started talking about pre-Scream "fourth wall breaking" movies.
as a teenager int he 80's, if S&E hated a movie, it usually meant i would enjoy the hell outta it...
“The Hitcher” comes to mind.
The 80's were awesome but I don't remember much because I was a kid but I do remember 1989 because I wanted to see Batman and at the time I liked Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles a lot. Certain memories I remember almost perfectly and it feels weird that is even from the 80's because I listen to and watch so many 80's movies and songs that I sometimes forget I was even alive during half those years.
You didn’t love Last House on the Left or Evil Dead 2?
Seeing Freddy Vs Jason opening night in a rowdy theater was like being at a boxing match.
It was fun for sure. LOL
@Mike B I love when Freddy is like “he’s stupid and he’s got no style! Ha ha ha!” And it cuts to Jason in his mask not reacting lol
I can just picture a full crowd of 40 year old dads with their sons and drunk nu-metal fans, cheering and throwing popcorn at the screen. Beautiful.
@@Dougie-Jones Pretty much!
I did it with The Final Friday. All seats were taken but they let us stand in the back. Against fire code but fuck it, it's the 90s.
I know "Pre:Rec" wasn't every RLM fan's cup of tea, but Rich and Jack played the Friday the 13th videogame a lot because they enjoyed it so much, and Jay joined in a few times. Check 'em out when you have time and need a fresh RLM "fix" between new content.
RIP prerec
The Halloween streams were so much fun.
Jack: "Ok I got the NES set up for Nightmare on Elm Street, definitely NOT using an emulator, totally legal"
The best two episodes were when Jay played and accidentally created a legit Friday the 13th moment because he couldn't drive. The other was the guy playing Jason like Freddy, using horrible puns while killing. It was glorious.
@@LadyTylerBioRodriguez That sounds amazing, I need to find that
Jack still does streams once or twice a week for the escapist. If you wanna check that out.
I like how the handy name chart has "Crispin Glover" instead of the characters name lol
Jimbo
The best part of this whole video is where Josh starts talking about the characters and Jay has to break out the chart so he can call them by name.
The montage of characters wandering around, who don’t know what happened to their friend. That’s good stuff
Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel's pearl clutching really brings me back.
I appreciate how long it must have taken to compile that montage of characters calling out to other characters
Jay is looking like he's gonna try to convince me that brewing your own beer is a good idea
i'd believe him
@Lassi Kinnunen Just don't tell anyone and you're good.
It’s not, it’s a pain in ass
I've always said that the big 3 slashers (Jason, Michael Myers, Freddy) are essentially modernized reimagining of the Universal Big 3: Dracula, Frankenstein and the Wolfman. Freddy is dracula, the seducer, the one that comes to you in your sleep. Jason is Frankenstein, the blunt instrument force of nature that won't stop. And Michael Myers is the Wolfman, the relentless evil within that ultimately erases their humanity. When you see them through that lens, all 3 franchises really snap into focus even with the worst of their sequels.
But I WILL say in Friday's defense, it had more solid sequels than the other two franchises.
I think we all remember that time Jason hung out with an old blind man and learned to smoke cigars
Can't believe they got Kurt Russell on as a guest!
"So, what were you going to be when you grew up" Holy shit that is a golden cynical line for a child
That made me laugh so bad
true story, we used to say that in the Marine Corps every day.
"Crispin Glover is in his own world in this movie", isn't he always.
🤦♂️
He's supposedly a nightmare to work with and stopped getting roles because his reputation
Crispin Glover _is_ his own little world.
@@SNNetwork well the story goes he has alot of bad things to say about Spielberg and was partially black listed. but that's probably a story for another time, and probably another youtube channel all together.
@@SNNetwork agreed, seems like there’s pretty blatant cover ups on Heather O’rouke’s death. Super sad
Glad we have audio of Jay saying “the initial penetration”
I need protein.
I mean... that's widely understood when discussing movies like these to be a double entendre reflecting a real relation in the language of movie making
@@MegaZeta uh hu
There’s nothing quite like RLM content between the months of October and December.
I really love them intercutting these Siskel and Ebert review of the film as they talk about it which I just love.
Remember when Gene Siskel threw such a piss fit about the first movie that he doxed Betsy Palmer and told people to write to her about how evil the movie was, and called the director "one of the most despicable creatures ever to infest the movie business"?
Yep. How very mature and professional of him.
Jesus Christ. I had no idea about this.
I think he and his friend are an extremely overrated pair of movie critics, tbh. :/
Yeah, Gene Siskel ruled
@@xsnowfrightx growing up I watched a lot of their reviews, but took them the exact opposite of intended, as if the liked a movie I’d know it would normally be artsy crap, but if the hated it then there was a decent chance it would be good.
They never seemed to care about a movies, as an entertainment media and instead always a platform for artistic expression and sending messages. There’s nothing wrong with a film doing either of those things, but they aren’t required to make a movie fun, or entertaining.
“Some people have a strange idea of entertainment”
Stares directly into your soul
Friday The 13th XIII: Jason Takes Money Plane
Kelsey Grammer:
”Money Plane.”
I'd watch it
Jason vs the rumble
“Jason fuckin’ an alligator.”
8 months late but this comment had me in stitches
Wow, that friend calling for a friend montage super cut was everything that I needed
35:50
Jay really shines in this one: the chart, the editing, the Billie Eilish hair.
So, take this from someone who watched the Camp Crystal Lake Memories documentary: Six was the introduction of the Frankenstein Monster theme, but Seven was the one where his actual personality as a movie monster started, as Kane Hodder donned the mask and added certain flourishes to the character, such as the 'slow head turn' and 'angry shiver'. Small things, but it gives a show of the sort of singular mind within.
Jay with the green outline looks like he's auditioning for Chad joker
Is that a Chad Vader reference?
So happy to see Jay go through the effort of spending 50 cents on 9 black-and-white google pictures and a $1 poster board.
Origins that’s commitment to the show I’d say.
Master of his craft
the supercut at 35:45 is a thing of beauty
The supercut of people asking people's names made me laugh so hard.
Because of Jay talking about them so often, and Rich Evans playing the awesome video game, I watched all the Friday 13th movies around the holidays last year. I definitely recommend watching these movies while wrapping gifts, it may be a new holiday tradition for me.
That was a great episode watching them play the game. fun👍
"Awesome game" lmaoo
@@dallasdandigitalproduction393 I think there were a few more than one, even.
Ebert's read on this film was so strange. Did anyone watch these movies and come out of them thinking "oh no, will I ever be able to achieve my future dreams?!"
Nobody could go on a scathing rant like Ebert, but occasionally he picked rather bizarre targets.
Ebert was just weird about it, while Siskel was genuinely being a fucking asshole about this movie.
His main point is that the film offers no hope and that character motivation and plot are practically non existent which like jay edits in the video “this is all true” ebert just seems to be virtue signaling about his high moral standards.
@@briandeweyforbes I mean yeah I pretty much agree with everything you said, but ebert is posturing a moral high ground, which he does have, I’d personally agree with him for the most part he isn’t wrong in his general analysis, but he clearly doesn’t get the film’s intent. It’s schlock of the finest caliber with absolutely no pretense. It’s mindless entertainment, and if ebert had just said “hey it’s not for me but if there’s an audience, knock yourselves out.” I’m a Christian and I fancy myself to have good moral fiber, but I’m not going posture on films that don’t live up to my personal moral expectations, its art and I have to observe it as such
If you're a movie reviewer, you think the whole world revolves around movies. I love movies, but the ones that have significantly affected my life in some material way? Maybe two?
every time i see that Siskel & Ebert clip i want to remind Roger Ebert that he wrote Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
Ebert's anti-slasher film crusade isn't even the funniest thing he was KINDA involved in.
I'd argue that time he gave a blatant Last House on the Left rip-off a super negative review, only for its meathead director and his producer friend to try to make a really half-assed feud out it was pure comedy, especially when the film's director starts ranting about Ebert shirtless with a backdrop of actual cadavers in a morgue.
@@GasmaskAvenger I guess Ebert wanted a release of The Farmer.
@@GasmaskAvenger Are you talking about KAOS or CHAOS or whatever with Sage Stallone?
@@7superdaimajin sure am
@@GasmaskAvenger I loved Ebert, even if I totally disagreed with him half the time. He stuck to his guns and it always felt like his genuine opinion on movies, not something he was paid off to say, support or slam. The funniest thing I think was him being "cast" in the awful 90's American Godzilla movie as an insult, but him just being somewhat flattered and confused.
I love how the same guy who once said: "Nobody ever said art has to be in good taste" and wrote Beyond the Valley of the Dolls is the one bashing Friday the 13th 4 for being just about gore and tits.
Both reviewers have always been overrated morons. So many of their opinions are insanely conflicting, to the point of moral pandering. They are just pretentious dicks.
And he dated Oprah.
Ebert was really weird with the moral handwringing around horror movies in particular, it bled into his reviews of most David Lynch films too for some weird reason.
Siskel and Ebert are senseless and idiotic critics who don’t know shit about anything - they have stepped on every classic film ever made.
Personally i don't get why people care so much about them, they seem biased, obtuse and even a bit captious in all of the reviews i watched (not many, to be fair). I don't live in North America so i didn't grew up with them, maybe it's a nostalgia thing ? I have nothing against them as human beings, but they don't strike me as serious critics. "If you enjoy this you enjoy a person being stabbed..". That's..that's so bad it sounds like a joke almost.
Black and white printouts on foam board. The quality I expect from RLM
Including incorrect photos and missing characters
@@NecromancyForKids xD LOL
Jay mentioning Michael Haneke got me way more excited than it should have lol, but man I'd love a re:View of Funny Games or any of his work really.
Same, Haneke is amazing.
Amour Re:view when?
Funny Games is so good! It would be so cool to see them talk about the two version.
So given the relationship you've cultivated with Mac, maybe you can have Feldman as a special guest star. Mac, Corey Feldman, and Rich Evans on a special Child Stars episode of BOTW.
In regards to "early meta horror", that movie with Joe Spinell and Caroline Munro from 1982 "The Last Horror Film" is another great example of a meta horror film with all kinds of references to horror movies, how movies work and whatnot with the Cannes Film Festival as a backdrop for everything
MADHOUSE (1974) Vincent Price plays a horror star and goes on a talk show in a scene just like the one in NEW NIUGHTMARE where Robert Englund goes on a talk show plus other "meta" bits.
I absolutely love Spinell's take on horror. Maniac is one of my favorite movies of all time.
Friday the 13th part VI is special to me. The summer of 1986, I was 16 and I got my first job at a newly opened 6-screen movie theater. It was the first more-than-2-screen theater back in the day in my area. I forget all the movies we had at opening, but this was one of them. Now, the fun things...
I was 16. This was an R movie where you couldn't go see it without a parent unless you were 18... so I thoroughly enjoyed being 16 year-old and throwing out 17-year-olds who were too young to see the movie that I would see several times a day every day for weeks :)
Also, sometimes about 30-45 minutes into the movie... I would quietly go into the theater and just before one of the big scenes I would take both hands, palms open and slap the back wall of the theater as hard as I could... most people in the theater would jump! :)
Also also... when we opened we were given only one movie trailer to show before every movie. Normally you'd expect to see 2-3 movie trailers before the feature started, but not us... we only had one trailer to show before each film... the trailer to Friday the 13th Part VI. And, yes... if you paid to see that movie, you also saw the trailer for that movie before seeing the actual movie itself. It was very meta.
Crispin Glover was a gift we never deserved but got anyway.
The reason that the word "final" appears in the title of a couple of the Friday the 13th movies is because the producers wanted all their fans to feel like they had some closure on the series before they died, even if there were fans that died between movies. The producers understood that it doesn't matter what your dreams and hopes and ambitions are; it doesn't matter if you have a new boyfriend or a new girlriend or a new movie is coming out, you can forget those plans, because you're going to wind up dead.
It's interesting to see David Spade discussing movies with Josh.
That's Kurt Russell from THE THING.
@@7superdaimajin To much wings. Not enough mane.
David Spade and Kevin Smith discussing the Jason movies
I love Jay’s class project, he worked so hard on that posterboard he deserves a gold star
I just love watching Crispin Glover dance so perfectly to the end credits of this video.
CJ Graham[part VI] is one of my favorite portrayals of Jason. Being an ex-Marine he brought a visceral nature to the character.
Even the mask doesn't make any sense after a point. It gets cracked in half down the middle and then charred up in part 7. Then, the new mask he finds at the start of Manhattan happens to have an axe mark in at as well for some reason. This whole franchise has a "just roll with it" attitude that I kind of love. Jason's own origin makes no sense and they didn't even bother to correct it in the remake. 😂
Part VI is probably my favorite in this whole series because of the comedic/smartass tone.
@@caseyoberle7341 he wasn't dead, kid Jason as the end of the first is a dream. I don't remember him being unnaturally strong in the 2-3-4 like in the others, but he's an invincible zombie since the sixth where he got resurrected.
Actually, they did fix Jason's origin. Jason was raised by the same guy who took care of Michael Myers between HALLOWEEN 4 and HALLOWEEN 5 ( as seen in the beginning of 5). ;D
Canonically, Jason is actually a powerful deadite.
Jason's mother used the Necronomicon from Evil Dead 1, 2 / Army of Darkness / Ash v Evil Dead to bring her boy back to life.
This retcon clears up quite a few continuity questions, like why he can continue to grow, and can't really be killed, and why he can possess other people.
If you want more of the details, you'd have to hunt down, or at least look up, Freddy v Jason v Ash, a 6-issue limited edition comic from 2007-2008. It was originally a working screenplay pitched for the Freddy v Jason sequel. The only reason the movie was not made was because of some issue between Bruce Campbell (Ash) and New Line Cinema.
It's kind of like how the Ghostbusters game (recently remastered) is the actual 3rd Ghostbusters movie that was never made, but is super canon (and would have seen the Paul Fieg trainwreck make more sense and been more publicly acceptable if they worked it in to the lore and didn't attempt a soft, hard-reboot).
@@ahok1937 well he did squeeze someones head so hard it made his eye pop out in part 3. I chalk it up as retard strength lol
you guys need to upload more often. I haven't seen anything new from you for at least 45 seconds now.
I remember back in the days everytime the 13 would fall on a Friday they would give a marathon of all of them I would stay all night up watching them
Judging from Josh and Jay's fascination with editing, I would highly recommend a re:View of A History of Violence. David Cronenberg specifically went for the kind of momentary but highly focused editing style that Jay talked about.
I honestly love listening to Jay and Josh talk about old horror movies with admiration.
"It's them damn enchiladas!" Rich Evans
Ooohhh baby hey baby.....
Brexit?
Shout-outs to everyone who had to watch the shitty, censored versions on Spike TV
Prediction: Jay is gonna mention the sleeping bag kill and show footage of it
@@leahl5007 Yeah Jason X parodies it amazingly
I don't think he does, but they do show the clip somewhere towards the beginning
You should be a fortune teller.
"Elaine, the shiksa is a myth much like the Yeti or his North American cousin the Sasquatch."
Or the rickshaw
@@ParadoxapocalypSatan ricksaw
Josh and Mission: Impossible 2 Tom Cruise are right! These movies are great comfort food.
The original Friday the 13th is really neat for introducing to new audiences. Everyone already knows Jason, so the ending becomes a great and unexpected twist.
The fact that Jason exists and everybody knows him makes the twist at least somewhat interesting. On its own though, it had no build up and all and when it happens it's kinda like well it's this random person we didn't know about in the end lol. A really weird instance where the fact that there has been time to set the future movies into culture helps something that wasn't good about the first movie.
@@Cheesehead302 actually, I watched the movie as a kid in the early 80s. At the time, that ending was fucking great. You didn't know if it was a dream or if she was actually attacked by a boy in the lake. Of course, I knew nothing about Jason at the time, because I hadn't seen the sequel yet.
Eh it works better as a surprise in the opening of Scream than it does for the reveal in the first movie
Exactly! I only read up on the original years ago and was pleasantly surprised that Jason doesn't exist
These movies may be crap, but Jason Takes Manhattan is marvelous crap.
I saw that one late night on the BBC ages ago. I must have been in just the right mood cause when I saw it on DVD recently and re-watched it, I was kinda like, meh.
Still laugh so much when Jason kicks the boom box and the “thugs” try to step to him and he just shows his face and they get scared lool
Jason Takes Manhattan always came on free tv when I was a kid so have a soft spot for it.
@Tristan beaumont the second Halloween is still really good though. Also season of the witch has its own identity.
@chriss FRIDAY THE 13TH: JASONS' DAY OFF, JASON TAKES MANHATTAN
I seriously thought Jay died his hair green for a hot second.
Me too.
He did, he’s just too shy to admit it
I like the green light in this video, it makes one guy look like he is getting his hair ready for a timely 2008 The Dark Knight Joker Halloween costume and the other looks like he is turning into the Hulk but just on his neck. He must be just mildly annoyed and not want to totally Hulk up.
That compilation of characters saying names around the 36 minute mark is gold!
in Police Story 1, Jackie Chan throws so many bad guys through glass in the end fight scene at a mall; vice versa, the bad guys throw Jackie Chan and a witness through an equal amount of glass. At one point, Jackie hits his head against glass, but it doesn’t break, so they bust his head against it AGAIN and then it breaks
I love those old Jackie Chan movies
Is that the one in which Jackie slides down a tube and breaks a lot of lights that were attached to it? He burned his hands pretty bad there it seems like the tube was very hot due the lights, love those old Jackie Chan movies they were so fun Armour of God was a childhood favourite of mine, good times.
I honestly thought this would be a 50 min review of the Crispen Glover dance.
Do you really think 50 minutes would be enough time to review that dance, come on now.
You know, for the guy who wrote Valley of The Dolls, Roger Ebert sure did spend a lot of time bitching and moaning about violence and gore in the 1980s.
This has always irked me. Even more so when people DEFEND him for that. But I guess it's a lot like now, where people will have the "rules for thee, not for me" mindset.
It is odd. At the time, the appeal of these movies were how 'naughty' they were. I wouldn't be surprised if the two were 'incentivized' to say how violent and awful it is to actually make it more appealing to its core audience.
He loved both Halloween and Re-Animator (4/4 and 3/4 respectively). If I had to guess, maybe this quote from his Re-Animator review might give a clue:
"One of the most boring experiences on Earth is a trash movie without the courage of its lack of convictions. If it only wants to be cynical, it becomes lifeless in every moment - a bad dream on the screen. One of the pleasures of the movies, however, is to find a movie that chooses a disreputable genre and then tries with all its might to transcend the genre, to go over the top into some kind of artistic vision, however weird."
@@joshuabarrett7997 Right. Also gave a glowing four star review to the original Dawn of the Dead.
@@homelessjesse9453 but Ordinary People is better than Raging Bull, and arguably Empire. Just note I haven’t seen Elephant Man, which is probably the best film of that year from what I’ve heard.
In the Pacific North West extreme fog at night is definitely a common thing.
I'm on the Oregon coast and this is double true here lol...
That sleeping bag smash is one of my favorite movie moments ever.
Tommy Jarvis is the only person to survive Jason more than once. only cause he was in the best zombie movie ever.....which is ALSO on re:view.
@Shane Green yeah. freddy. gets gassed with frank.
@Shane Green I think they mentioned it in the rotld Re:View, but the black guy from Part 5 was also in rotld, which also had Tommy Jarvis, but played by a different actor.
@@sothatsdevintart2562 those damn enchiladas.
@@kevinbeelard6442 Those Damn Enchiladas!
Return Of The Living Dead is just my favorite movie ever. There I am, going through life blissfully unaware, and I see that re:View episode, and it makes me go *"Hold on, wait, how have I missed this movie? This looks like it was made for me! I must see it!"*
If anyone is looking for a copy, the UK Special Edition Blu-Ray will have the audio 99% intact (one song is changed to a version without vocals), unlike many releases which have swapped out all the music, even some of the zombie voice acting, which is some bullshit. Regrettably though, this version doesn't have any of the audio commentary.
Jason Lives is a horror movie masterpiece that completely transcends the series,
So true
Jason, Freddy and Michael Myers, golden trio of Slasher.
I wouldn’t go that far. Poltergeist is funnier and that’s not even a horror comedy. It definitely is a great sequel. Also part 4 is better in my estimation.
Man, that montage of slashers brings back memories. I have a soft spot for The Burning. Managed to catch it on the big screen at a festival about ten years ago. Good times.
Crystal Lake Memories really is a legit documentary. I got it with a torrent pack of all of the Friday The 13th movies, and I ended up enjoying it way more than anything else.
In Mike's Emperor voice:
Jay, take this eyepatch! Put it on with all your hatred, and your journey towards the Snake Plissken will be complete!
I KNEW they were going to talk about the Crispin Glover dance.
How can you not mention that piece of utter perfection when discussing Part 4?
You, and EVERYONE ELSE.
Whereas I thought I was so smart for spotting the policeman kill/dart board cut. Dammit Jay!
I think they're exactly right that the Friday the 13th series is cinematic comfort food. It's a calming mix of schlock, bad acting, sporadic good effects from Savini, bad comedy, etc. Think about Grandma's meatloaf. It's not Michelin star cuisine, but you love it BECAUSE it's Grandma's meatloaf and always will be.
Mike believes in ghosts and he doesn't care if everyone thinks he's a moron for it. In fact, he enjoys that
Are... you talking about yourself in the third person?
I like how Jay is just committed to this haircut now.
He's slowly morphing into Jeff Bridges
And I like how Mike gave up very quickly lol
It’s just a wig ...
I wish jay had stuck with it. Would happily tug on that hair.
My “big” quarantine accomplishment was watching all the Friday the 13th movies, so this episode is very well-timed!
Speaking of TNG: Erich Anderson from the episode Conundrum is in 4.
Yep
Thanks, Mike!
I found your videos a couple days ago and have been binge watching thanks a lot!!!
Welcome to the club
@Shane Green chable chable one of us
My favorite discovery of 2020 was this channel. Thank you all at RLM. Don't ever change.
"this is true" during the later half of Ebert's rant cracked me up.
Everything you need to know about Part V: "Those damn enchiladas!"
He also is the best actor of all the movies. In his death scene he legitimately looks terrified.
@@smasher.338 Agree! Miguel Nunez is always a professional; gettin' killed in a corrugated shitter? You bet your ass he'll act the hell out of it!
That is the only thing I remember about V lol
@@smasher.338 He died too damn quick. I wish he had a couple more scenes. But yeah he’s one of the saddest deaths in the series.