@@DeeEllEff The two dealerships I use have both their Lexus and Toyota dealerships side-by-side. Though there are couches in the waiting areas of each.
@@entasis.fifty-four Since the first car I ever bought with my own money was a 1985 Corolla GT-S 5-speed hatchback, the current somnambulant (look that 1 up!) CVT-bound crossovers (like the Corolla Cross!) make me sad & angry!
I don't think you have been car shopping lately. Toyota has had vehicles north of $50k for quite some time now. Even the Camry now can be had for as high as $43k. Heck...there is even a $35k Corolla.
In the market for exactly this class of car. I was ready to buy a 2024 Toyota Venza Limited this week until I saw the capabilities of the 2025 Crown Signia Limited. I’m planning to order a Crown Signia Limited and wait til it arrives. BTW, I’ve driven every ‘competitor’ from Audi, Subaru, Genesis, Lexus, BMW. The Crown Signia is my choice, as it delivers both the performance and the value. It’ll make it a 3-Toyota garage. 😊
I would buy only if they give it the more powerful engine like in the Crown. I would definitely purchase if they came out with a plug-in hybrid! That is what I really prefer.
I sat in a Crown sedan. I have the 2024 Venza Limited and the only feature I appreciate in the Crown is the vertical QI charging plate. The Venza limited has the same features except heated rear seats. But, never had anyone in the back tell me their butt is cold. The Venza dash and layout in the front I feel is as premium as Lexus and great ride quality and Stargaze roof. So, not impressed. I am sad they are discounting the Venza because I may have to back to a Rav (though I like the Rav I like the Venza a bit better). I get the same mpg as they say with the Crown is to get
My Venza has a spare tire, not full size but better than a can of stop-flat. Spare has already seen use when hitting road debris. Tire was shredded. Can of goo wasn’t going to work. I don’t know if I would ever buy a car without a spare. Sorry Toyota, I’m keeping the Venza.
Totally agree. I want to get back on the road quickly and not need a tow. Three different times I've had my spare already on by the time AAA got there. On two of the instances, I was able to cancel the call. One of them, it was going to be 2 hrs before they were there, and twice, the original couldn't be repaired
@@proletariat7072 What an odd thing to say. I didn’t say I wasn’t interested, I said the price is too high for the Limited, the XLE is still good at ~$43k. Also, I don’t care about what salesman get paid for. It’s not like dealerships don’t waste our time with the dumb games they’ve been playing for the past few years. I’ll go test drive as many cars as I’d like.
@@proletariat7072 If I were a salesman, I'd take all the test drives I could get from people who are interested in test driving it. Some people will change their minds afterwards and perhaps come back a few weeks later. Objections are opportunities.
If Toyota would build a proper squared off (not sport back) high mpg station wagon that could start in the lower to mid 30k range, like a Camry LE wagon they would sell like hotcakes. Especially if it was available with AWD in any trim level like the 25 Camry can be had. Just offer a wagon body Camry in all trim levels from LE to XSE. That's what people want. Something affordable. I'll bet Toyota already has the body developed for other markets.
Great review. I think it's better looking than a Lexus, shares the same drivetrain as the Lexus hybrids, and has all the features I'd need (except for HUD). I've been in contact with dealerships since February and I've been told they will be receiving very limited numbers of Signia's - which will result in long wait times.
Yes, I have read a couple sources that said the U.S. will only receive around 20 thousand yearly. If that's true you can only expect one or two per dealership monthly. I already have a deposit down at my dealer, but I have been very specific on what I want, so time will tell.
Nice looking car, a bit pricey for sure. However once you step up to the Limited, there are not many more options. Love the estimated MPG rating. My wife and I have been waiting since the beginning of July for this car to land on some dealer’s lot here in Phoenix, just to test drive it. Hopefully none of the Toyota dealers here participate in “Market Adjustment” pricing. That would really turn us off for this car. If they don’t operate that way, then we just might drive one home. We’ll see!
Looking forward to test driving this myself. But no word on when it’s to arrive at the dealers. The price is steep! Probably look at the XLE model or go over to Lexus
Nice review. Now, you mention that it is the most comfortable ride of any Toyota you have ever driven. I always really liked the ride of the Avalon - have you driven that one, and how would you say they compare?
An amazingly well built and fuel efficient wagon. Please comment on no spare tire. Although rare flats do occur. What if you get a flat in a desolate area?
No spare tire? Had run flats on my SC430. Does no good when a run flat completely disintegrates which it did; fortunately at home. Got rid of them and got at least a donut spare.
I really like this product. I am willing to overlook the CVT and the electric AWD. However, the lack of a sunroof that opens is a dealbreaker for me. Otherwise, this is really, really nice. For me, though, the Mazda CX-70 Premium Plus, at slightly under $51k, is very enticing.
@@addanametocontinue Our oldest car is now six years old, and we have not experienced any leaks. Before this our cars were 13 and 9 nine years old, respectively, and we never experienced any leaks. I did experience leaks in a Mazda GLC 30 years ago, though. Nonetheless, as far as I am concerned, if there is glass up top, it must open. In fact, outside of a sports car, I won’t buy a care without an opening sunroof.
@@JWFas I don’t question its reliability; I just don’t like the sound and the sensation under hard acceleration. I must say, though, that in my 2016 Outback 3.6R Limited, I didn’t mind the CVT one bit because that powertrain was so incredibly smooth, both in sensation and in sound.
Exterior design is very good, though still front-driver proportions, i.e., big front overhang. Inside, kind of odd that the passenger seems more tightly enveloped than the driver. I dislike the info screen extending out from the IP. Wish it was lower/closer and mounted in the center stack. My main reservation is lack of power. It'd be cool with the Crown sedan's higher hp option. Also, this won't be cheap.
My wife is disabled and I am short. A vehicle closer to the ground is right up my street. Now if it only came with a 3.5 V6 I would be first in line to buy one.
Same boat. I’m a paraplegic and getting in and out in SUVs is a challenge. I have had MBZ wagons and a 2006 Volvo V70R. They work well including the chair fits in the back
I have a 2015 Volvo XC60 t6 and it has served me very well, but the service and quality of their new vehicles is simply subpar with cheaper build materials to including noise dampening which is a deal breaker for me. So I am walking away from Volvo probably forever and choosing this Toyota Crown Wagon to take its place, it is a shame that almost no automakers other than Volvo offer passenger lumbar support
I would prefer smaller diameter wheels with higher sidewalls. 17" or 18" wheels would render higher mpg and lower tire costs. This heavy vehicle will grind down tires quickly. Higher sidewalls would also make for a smoother ride and fewer pot hole flats and broken wheels. I hate being the victim of fashion over function. Just being practical. I don't need 21 inch wheels to feel like a man.
I have a 2013 Lexus RX450h made in Japan. The quality seems pretty good, and the SUV does not give me trouble. According to Toyota, Crown Signia is also made in Japan. I am interested in this wagon ( I had a Camry V6 wagon 30 years ago). My major concern is that it seems a little small. The price may be fine with me, as one of my relatives just bought a Lexus RX350 for over $70k (including tax).
It's not a wagon and its only a 4 cylinder engine, something required for a premium wagon at this price point. Ask Volvo how well their 4 cylinder V90 is selling with its premium price and unrefined 4 cylinder power train. Lately Toyota's quality is also not great. I'd prefer a new MB E450 All Terrain with its butter smooth inline 6 cylinder and the Audi A6 Allroad. The Platinum is $55K and that is premium vehicle pricing territory.
@@ironinquisitor3656 If they sold it as a wagon in the USA they'd have NO sales! It is a crossover not a wagon. Who cares what its called? They call the Outback an SUV and we all know its a wagon. Names are part of marketing and marketing is BS.
Why would you buy a vehicle without a spare tire and also what’s the purpose of of having a huge glass roof that you can’t even open it 😢 plus the price will be super expensive 😢
I almost choked on my breakfast seeing the price tag on these: $50k USD?! Isn't the whole point of hybrids saving gas = saving money? At this price point, one can get a Subaru Outback XT for $40k fully speced, just say damn the gas costs, and still come out on top after 10 years. Oh, and by the way the Subie will absolutely destroy the Crown Signia in almost every performance metric except for fuel economy: towing capacity, acceleration, all-time AWD, ground clearance, handling, torque, interior space, etc.
Thanks for point out the loss of legroom in the Crown Signia vs Crown sedan. I am baffled by this decision by Toyota. Why do this? I recently test drove Crown sedan and decided that Crown Signia was probably my next car and now I find out that it isn't 1:1 and you lose legroom by going to Signia variant. I don't understand it.
It does not come with a spare tire. I would not want this on a long road trip. I would prefer the Subaru Outback Wilderness which sits higher, has a full size spare tire, better always on awd, is roomier and is cheaper. It will also last longer.
Boxer engines tend to be more of a complicated system and when damaged cost an arm and a leg more then the traditional Toyota engine system. However, the Subaru like you said has incredible AWD system . As you have stated and a friend of mine who owns a Subaru Outback has expressed to me, this is true.
At a price point of $50,000 this vehicle enters the realm of German luxury cars, yet it does not offer the same level of luxury. It is simply too expensive.
I'll pass. I'm a lifelong toyota guy but I'm not liking the direction they are going in. 4 runner with a 4 cylinder turbo and sequoia with a 6. No thanks. Honda here I come
Sounds like a typical Kia/Hyundai owner. And here you are watching and commenting on a video for a vehicle that you say should not be acknowledged. Embarrassingly stupid.
Toyota is making the same mistake a lot of the other auto manufactures made during the pandemic, taking their vehicles upscale, along with the price, and making expensive vehicles no one wants.
not true, I would say that is not applicable for every one. There are many friends I know that they only want Toyota engine, Toyota badges, but demand somewhat more luxury style. And they do say NO to Lexus
I have a 2024 XLE and I LOVE IT !!!!!!! Price was at 40k. This car will last until the wheels fall off. I also get 40-41mpg. What are y'all waiting for??????
Yeah it scares the sheet... a $60K SUV without reclining rear seats! Folks, $60K! Go on a road trip and be a rear passenger and tell if that's comfortable?!?
It is simply ugly. It mimics, Chevy, Mazda and vehicles in those areas. Then the price is will be scary for what you get as well. Toyota is supposed to be better than those other OEM's This will be like the current Crown and it won't sell.
A nice vehicle, but at the expected pricing one might as well just walk over to the Lexus dealership.
@@entasis.fifty-four This just in: Lexus customers don’t “walk over” anywhere; they ride their living room couches!😏
@@DeeEllEff The two dealerships I use have both their Lexus and Toyota dealerships side-by-side. Though there are couches in the waiting areas of each.
@@entasis.fifty-four Since the first car I ever bought with my own money was a 1985 Corolla GT-S 5-speed hatchback, the current somnambulant (look that 1 up!) CVT-bound crossovers (like the Corolla Cross!) make me sad & angry!
Hanson you gave the best review of Signia; and I have seen them all.Thank you. I am buying the Toyota Crown signia limited fully loaded..
That means a lot. Thank you so much!
Let’s get this thing built and at dealers already! I want black with tan interior 👍🏽
Such a nice looking car. It's pricey for a Toyota, but it's the intended market for the Crown.
I don't think you have been car shopping lately. Toyota has had vehicles north of $50k for quite some time now. Even the Camry now can be had for as high as $43k. Heck...there is even a $35k Corolla.
@@garyjohnson8120 The longer you put it off, the higher the price goes.
In the market for exactly this class of car. I was ready to buy a 2024 Toyota Venza Limited this week until I saw the capabilities of the 2025 Crown Signia Limited. I’m planning to order a Crown Signia Limited and wait til it arrives. BTW, I’ve driven every ‘competitor’ from Audi, Subaru, Genesis, Lexus, BMW. The Crown Signia is my choice, as it delivers both the performance and the value. It’ll make it a 3-Toyota garage. 😊
Two thumbs up for an understated, superlative absent, review.
I would buy only if they give it the more powerful engine like in the Crown. I would definitely purchase if they came out with a plug-in hybrid! That is what I really prefer.
Quickly becoming my favorite go-to channel. Jam packed data & specs with info buyers need to know.
Thank you!! It’s good to have you on board.
It is very attractive. I can only find fault with the the unhidden rear wiper and lack of the hybrid max engine.
Def agree, seems like a no brainer move to help clean up the back end.
Great review as you hit the important points.
I just purchased one of these wonderful cars! They are very lugubrious, and ride and handling are top notch!
You bought a signia? Didn’t know the suv was out.
I sat in a Crown sedan. I have the 2024 Venza Limited and the only feature I appreciate in the Crown is the vertical QI charging plate.
The Venza limited has the same features except heated rear seats. But, never had anyone in the back tell me their butt is cold.
The Venza dash and layout in the front I feel is as premium as Lexus and great ride quality and Stargaze roof.
So, not impressed. I am sad they are discounting the Venza because I may have to back to a Rav (though I like the Rav I like the Venza a bit better).
I get the same mpg as they say with the Crown is to get
My Venza has a spare tire, not full size but better than a can of stop-flat. Spare has already seen use when hitting road debris. Tire was shredded. Can of goo wasn’t going to work. I don’t know if I would ever buy a car without a spare. Sorry Toyota, I’m keeping the Venza.
you must be a boomer LOL
@@jamesvelvet3612 and proud of it
I would be ordering a new Venza if they had a 2025
@@journeywithstu7199 And we know how to change a tire.
Totally agree. I want to get back on the road quickly and not need a tow.
Three different times I've had my spare already on by the time AAA got there. On two of the instances, I was able to cancel the call. One of them, it was going to be 2 hrs before they were there, and twice, the original couldn't be repaired
50k is just too much for the fully loaded one. It should’ve started at high 30s and maxed out at 45k.
Still looking forward to test driving this.
If you are not looking to buy, do not test drive. Salesman are not paid to show you a car you aren't interested in.
@@proletariat7072 What an odd thing to say. I didn’t say I wasn’t interested, I said the price is too high for the Limited, the XLE is still good at ~$43k.
Also, I don’t care about what salesman get paid for. It’s not like dealerships don’t waste our time with the dumb games they’ve been playing for the past few years. I’ll go test drive as many cars as I’d like.
@@proletariat7072 If I were a salesman, I'd take all the test drives I could get from people who are interested in test driving it. Some people will change their minds afterwards and perhaps come back a few weeks later. Objections are opportunities.
@@Fadic4You were right on point with the price comment. Some people get way too emotional over little things.
If Toyota would build a proper squared off (not sport back) high mpg station wagon that could start in the lower to mid 30k range, like a Camry LE wagon they would sell like hotcakes. Especially if it was available with AWD in any trim level like the 25 Camry can be had. Just offer a wagon body Camry in all trim levels from LE to XSE. That's what people want. Something affordable. I'll bet Toyota already has the body developed for other markets.
Great review. I think it's better looking than a Lexus, shares the same drivetrain as the Lexus hybrids, and has all the features I'd need (except for HUD). I've been in contact with dealerships since February and I've been told they will be receiving very limited numbers of Signia's - which will result in long wait times.
Thanks for the feedback! Good luck with your Signia hunt!
Yes, I have read a couple sources that said the U.S. will only receive around 20 thousand yearly. If that's true you can only expect one or two per dealership monthly. I already have a deposit down at my dealer, but I have been very specific on what I want, so time will tell.
The roof can not be opened. This is deal breaker.
Nice looking car, a bit pricey for sure. However once you step up to the Limited, there are not many more options. Love the estimated MPG rating. My wife and I have been waiting since the beginning of July for this car to land on some dealer’s lot here in Phoenix, just to test drive it. Hopefully none of the Toyota dealers here participate in “Market Adjustment” pricing. That would really turn us off for this car. If they don’t operate that way, then we just might drive one home. We’ll see!
As I stated above, I have a deposit down at my dealer here in Florida. I made a deal up front no "market adjustment pricing."
Looking forward to test driving this myself. But no word on when it’s to arrive at the dealers. The price is steep! Probably look at the XLE model or go over to Lexus
Nice review. Now, you mention that it is the most comfortable ride of any Toyota you have ever driven. I always really liked the ride of the Avalon - have you driven that one, and how would you say they compare?
Have driven it. The review is on this channel too. The Avalon rode nicely, but this one feels a touch better imo, and more up to date.
It misses fog lights... Subaru is not even scared of this wagon, Volvo could probably.
An amazingly well built and fuel efficient wagon. Please comment on no spare tire. Although rare flats do occur. What if you get a flat in a desolate area?
No spare tire? Had run flats on my SC430. Does no good when a run flat completely disintegrates which it did; fortunately at home. Got rid of them and got at least a donut spare.
I can tell you that we are looking forward to it and we live in the states
Really wish they would offer a platinum version with the hybrid max powertrain!
Since there is no HUD, can you get a moving map o the instrument cluster (MID)? I sure hope so!
I really like this product. I am willing to overlook the CVT and the electric AWD. However, the lack of a sunroof that opens is a dealbreaker for me. Otherwise, this is really, really nice.
For me, though, the Mazda CX-70 Premium Plus, at slightly under $51k, is very enticing.
Toyota's CVT isn't a belt driven one. It's an e-CVT with a planetary gear system that's actually reliable.
No opening sunroof means no chances for leaks. I've had my current car for 12 years and I haven't opened the mooroof more than a hundred times.
@@addanametocontinue Our oldest car is now six years old, and we have not experienced any leaks. Before this our cars were 13 and 9 nine years old, respectively, and we never experienced any leaks. I did experience leaks in a Mazda GLC 30 years ago, though. Nonetheless, as far as I am concerned, if there is glass up top, it must open. In fact, outside of a sports car, I won’t buy a care without an opening sunroof.
@@JWFas I don’t question its reliability; I just don’t like the sound and the sensation under hard acceleration. I must say, though, that in my 2016 Outback 3.6R Limited, I didn’t mind the CVT one bit because that powertrain was so incredibly smooth, both in sensation and in sound.
Hybrid Subaru Forester next year. I'll wait!!!
Exterior design is very good, though still front-driver proportions, i.e., big front overhang.
Inside, kind of odd that the passenger seems more tightly enveloped than the driver. I dislike the info screen extending out from the IP. Wish it was lower/closer and mounted in the center stack.
My main reservation is lack of power. It'd be cool with the Crown sedan's higher hp option. Also, this won't be cheap.
My wife is disabled and I am short. A vehicle closer to the ground is right up my street. Now if it only came with a 3.5 V6 I would be first in line to buy one.
Same boat. I’m a paraplegic and getting in and out in SUVs is a challenge. I have had MBZ wagons and a 2006 Volvo V70R. They work well including the chair fits in the back
I have the 2.4 which gets 40 mpg. Not sure if the Crown will have a 3.5. It's about gas milage.
Why oh why can we not have rear yellow turn signals.
I have a 2015 Volvo XC60 t6 and it has served me very well, but the service and quality of their new vehicles is simply subpar with cheaper build materials to including noise dampening which is a deal breaker for me. So I am walking away from Volvo probably forever and choosing this Toyota Crown Wagon to take its place, it is a shame that almost no automakers other than Volvo offer passenger lumbar support
Cool. Good review
I would prefer smaller diameter wheels with higher sidewalls. 17" or 18" wheels would render higher mpg and lower tire costs. This heavy vehicle will grind down tires quickly. Higher sidewalls would also make for a smoother ride and fewer pot hole flats and broken wheels. I hate being the victim of fashion over function. Just being practical. I don't need 21 inch wheels to feel like a man.
Awesome looking estate. Count me in Signia !
This will compete with Lexus NX hybrid handsomely. I personally feel Lexus package design is aweful compared to Toyota.
I’m getting one ☝️😁
Why can't Toyota make a good looking steering wheel and the button layout on it!?
I have a 2013 Lexus RX450h made in Japan. The quality seems pretty good, and the SUV does not give me trouble. According to Toyota, Crown Signia is also made in Japan. I am interested in this wagon ( I had a Camry V6 wagon 30 years ago). My major concern is that it seems a little small. The price may be fine with me, as one of my relatives just bought a Lexus RX350 for over $70k (including tax).
There is no way the Toyota Crown sedans have the same clearance as Camry. They should have higher clearance
Is it actual leather or just vinyl that looks like leather that toyota always seems to market as some 'premium' material?
AAA will substitute for a spare.
Nice but price is way too expensive for a non luxury brand.
Yeah, I’m sure other automakers are shaking in their boots 😂
The outback Subaru should have made
How does this do against the RAV-4 Prime ?
Mazda not scared. Cx50 is distant cousin
Man no factory tinted windows
It's not a wagon and its only a 4 cylinder engine, something required for a premium wagon at this price point. Ask Volvo how well their 4 cylinder V90 is selling with its premium price and unrefined 4 cylinder power train. Lately Toyota's quality is also not great. I'd prefer a new MB E450 All Terrain with its butter smooth inline 6 cylinder and the Audi A6 Allroad. The Platinum is $55K and that is premium vehicle pricing territory.
It is a wagon. it's literally called the "Crown Estate" overseas. Estate means wagon.
@@ironinquisitor3656 If they sold it as a wagon in the USA they'd have NO sales! It is a crossover not a wagon. Who cares what its called? They call the Outback an SUV and we all know its a wagon. Names are part of marketing and marketing is BS.
@@fleuger99 Lol.
Still can't believe the Signia Crown is supposed to replace the Venza.
It’s still not available where I live in Illinois
Toyota postponed the Signia until the fall of this year.
we have one available at my dealership. Its an incoming unit
@@dogie8c not true, we have one incoming
@@dug4895 that’s what my dealership told me.
@@dogie8c they lied, if you want to reserve our incoming one lmk
Why would you buy a vehicle without a spare tire and also what’s the purpose of of having a huge glass roof that you can’t even open it 😢 plus the price will be super expensive 😢
pretty decent car for this money!
This Signia is going to be a hot seller, and Toyota dealers will probably ask way over MSRP.
and just like the PT cruiser, nobody's going to give a crap about it in a couple of years and then they won't be able to give them away.
I almost choked on my breakfast seeing the price tag on these: $50k USD?! Isn't the whole point of hybrids saving gas = saving money? At this price point, one can get a Subaru Outback XT for $40k fully speced, just say damn the gas costs, and still come out on top after 10 years. Oh, and by the way the Subie will absolutely destroy the Crown Signia in almost every performance metric except for fuel economy: towing capacity, acceleration, all-time AWD, ground clearance, handling, torque, interior space, etc.
At 50K, it’s not scaring any other manufacturer.
Thanks for point out the loss of legroom in the Crown Signia vs Crown sedan. I am baffled by this decision by Toyota. Why do this? I recently test drove Crown sedan and decided that Crown Signia was probably my next car and now I find out that it isn't 1:1 and you lose legroom by going to Signia variant. I don't understand it.
I realize that the 3.5 is dead. Just reminiscing . I drive under 10,000 miles per year. Fuel economy is not a chief concern.
It does not come with a spare tire. I would not want this on a long road trip. I would prefer the Subaru Outback Wilderness which sits higher, has a full size spare tire, better always on awd, is roomier and is cheaper. It will also last longer.
I hated my Subaru. Couldn’t keep it in the road. Gladly got rid of it for a rav4 XSE.
Agree on that lack of a spare tire. Especially in light of the fact that these are 21” wheels with rubber band thin tires. Where’s the logic ? 🤔
@@kenfrankel3498the logics is just that it looks cool and that sells cars.
I wish I can get the limited trim with the smaller wheels.
Boxer engines tend to be more of a complicated system and when damaged cost an arm and a leg more then the traditional Toyota engine system. However, the Subaru like you said has incredible AWD system . As you have stated and a friend of mine who owns a Subaru Outback has expressed to me, this is true.
The expected life is not a given yet. Wait a few years.
At 50k. I stick to dress up toyota. LEXUS
A much smaller NX sure, but you won't hit RX levels unless you drop 6-10k more.
Too expensive, the average family would not be able to afford. Nice car though.
Whre is it built? Thanks--great videos
Earth. 😮😊
Japan
At a price point of $50,000 this vehicle enters the realm of German luxury cars, yet it does not offer the same level of luxury. It is simply too expensive.
Id rather just get chevy trax. Same cargo
No rear privay glass? This product is way over priced
It would be so much better if they removed the ugly plastic wheel arches
Toyota eat lunch they are buy tundra motors so maybe ceo may have start give lunches to buyers
I'll pass. I'm a lifelong toyota guy but I'm not liking the direction they are going in. 4 runner with a 4 cylinder turbo and sequoia with a 6. No thanks. Honda here I come
Wagon??? Come on, guy. This is not a family truckster.
The competition will just ignore it. It’s behind the times. Theres no point in even acknowledging its existence because it’ll be quickly forgotten
Sounds like a typical Kia/Hyundai owner. And here you are watching and commenting on a video for a vehicle that you say should not be acknowledged. Embarrassingly stupid.
Rather have a new Venza
Toyota is making the same mistake a lot of the other auto manufactures made during the pandemic, taking their vehicles upscale, along with the price, and making expensive vehicles no one wants.
not true, I would say that is not applicable for every one. There are many friends I know that they only want Toyota engine, Toyota badges, but demand somewhat more luxury style. And they do say NO to Lexus
I have a 2024 XLE and I LOVE IT !!!!!!! Price was at 40k. This car will last until the wheels fall off. I also get 40-41mpg. What are y'all waiting for??????
7 second 0-60 time? 🤮 absolute waste of money in 2024. New body shapes for dated drive trains and calling it “crown” is not adequate.
It is a station wagon. It is reminiscent of the 1960’s which is a complete turn off.
No spare? No deal.
Yeah it scares the sheet... a $60K SUV without reclining rear seats! Folks, $60K! Go on a road trip and be a rear passenger and tell if that's comfortable?!?
2026 Subaru outback Touring will be the twin so buy Subaru.
Too expensive for a non EV. Come on Toyota you are too slow with your EVs rollout.
Tooooo much cost
Buy a Lexus
It is simply ugly. It mimics, Chevy, Mazda and vehicles in those areas. Then the price is will be scary for what you get as well. Toyota is supposed to be better than those other OEM's This will be like the current Crown and it won't sell.
Why would anybody buy this instead of a crown? This is the dumbest thing Toyota is ever going to do
Cargo space, for one.