There was more than meets the eye with Mark a tough character he was but hidden behind that facade was a man deep in thought in the purpose of his life. You cannot help but be attracted to his larrikin anti establishment character he will be remembered as a folk hero for generations
You & others are in desperate need of a modern day Ned Kelly, consumed by romantic notions of Robin Hood, a bloke who never hurt innocent people 😂😂😂 wake up
any kid born into seventh day adventism learns to ponder life and philosophy from the cradle. and though his mum was tough, she loved him, and she was a good woman.
Ueahauoihhhhharrrhhhhh i'mein I just remember that every Sunday waz prfct sunshining up in the bright blue sky every Sunday thruought my Childhood dowen theairyreinnahhh" Frankston uep Frankston; î'м бrэwцр în dolè' Frnkstn úeaupp dolè 3199 dn by Tha beach but îtelîa even FHS students maybe Mt.Erinonze toovidunno but úeahuh during in the approximations of 1997 thru Class of Year 2002; Bosnian Tetch;; uepp dol' FHS maybe Mt.Erin too I dunno.. uehhhhharrrrrhhhhhhh gettn run fairandsquareuppbehindthamainhaulstdmzwearalltheyummyr.10Bosno'zeustahangouttabditelia nuthink withputta doubt hear Sheazè always get kurfewed by us yr.7 Kuntz raightlikeyerbuthabosnianzdontwannamesdaroundlikèdatsnowmore?!" Wîluehsheadoftenbeenheardoverbytheshedzordeepindaforestdeydsumtimesteakerovertothewilsonbotanicalgaurdenz but úeahuh Sheazè a rare gem thses dayz ol' Daniel Hatsis still runningdawholedamnshownafrmupnizofficescountyerno??!' Well ueah He's basicalî theareaKingPinn foralovA Frnkstn Seniors Territchourishonakovandersonzextreîn⁰vÃîÄîÂîÄîÓîÚîîÔîÓîÙîÒîÆîjjjjÁyéîèÁiÆîjjjjÀuÁoÜoÀuÁoÁîÂîÂîÂîÃîÃîÄîÄîÄ;xe_angelzovadelamaskusssstardiadijilijilitiniminitintimitinitieliat⁰ranamaîînorafrgnlîkè....de_tomaso_pantera...! NthennaMaseratîShamaldiggsînmcutanamanarowîllôwnamcstathenjzurîchdenomoneromeomodadeneronometereatchourishonakovandersonzèrowаeieаnбзlinandctndi⁰wennaijettapavagagapavakapavakapavagagakargargiearg⁰wear⁰ververiver⁰me⁰anapavagagapavagagaiaenieauicean⁰vÃlhallahharbonadonnatendolpaiaurtois 🤟🤟🤟🤙🤙🤙🤙🤟🤟🤟🤙🤙🥳🤙🤙🤟🤟🤟🤟🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤟🤩🤟🤟🤙🤙🤙🤟🤟🤟🤟🤙🤙🤩🤩🤟🤙🤙🤙🤟🤟🤩🤩🥳🥳🥳🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
@@THEGLORYRISING my father'd often remind me overthafactoranarisingloriesofanadanadanaturalistidthlidthisesisathidildildэa⁰ur⁰mэ⁰anthanîkэliэieiэlledîх⁰ntîfîîпcнîîsн⁰пaк⁰vaптэrs⁰иzэxиraэîgэnэratî⁰nзls⁰fusfussîяussîan⁰vanatenA" zîxgîggthîxrsîgîgthîхsîxxarrrrrбîxthîxîx⁰tîcandix⁰nzзбy⁰lkзnзiзiailiзzзnnazîxthsgixxiзai⁰n⁰vĀndix⁰nzixgixrзa⁰inz
Chopper really was a lovable rogue who I am sure was full of a lot of hot air and big yarns but I am sure he did do a lot of the stuff he claimed to do. Kinda funny how such a violent and bad dude had so many people who adored him. He was a real character that is for sure
@@bernardcumberbatch7795 Chopper shot Syd after drinking at the Clarendon Arms hotel, then rushed him to hospital..FACT!! I live here, have met the scumbag, we are all better off with the "non drug user" dying from Hep C related Liver cancer:/
@@bernardcumberbatch7795 welll, he was never seen again, IF he was even there in the first place:/ Noone else can back that one up, bit strange! Dont mean hes dead, and when chop was near dead he would not cop to that one, even though he bragged about doin him years ago:/ He had nothing to lose if he did, why not cop to it. Thats NOT Chops[was] MO. Anything he could he thought he could get away with he claimed pretty much, while baggin others for claiming shit he supposedly did:/ Storytime with Chopper,lol. Ive heard a few stories about what happened to Syd, but if anyone in his right mind believes Syd approached him after one of his terrible standup nights in South Australia after givin him up cold, their NOT in their right mind, hahaha, i laugh at the Russian gangster story though,lol
@@lynnpurcell3182 A few times, i live in Launceston. Dont let the storys fool you. He was dangerously unpredictable, he loved bashing people, NOT just crims he was extorting though that was true mostly. There was no good in him i saw! The "story" about Syd was total crap,[not that Syd was a wonderful person by any stretch:/] he shot him out of nowhere while he was in a car driving to Launceston from Evandale pub a short distance away after a drinking session, then made up a total crap story about it, like so many of his yarns. The books were full of tall storys. The guy spent most of his life in prison, thankfully:/ One night in a pub here after he took umbrage at something minor a guy said, he followed him to the toilets and bashed and kicked the shit out of him while the guy was having a leak with his back turned. So many idiots idolize this fool when all they know about him is his books. Hardly a source of truth:/ Even Charlie Manson could have written books that made him seem just a misunderstood scallywag:/
@@TheZacdes he did have good actually, I don't know what's up with you my man, but he had respect for innocents, he never wanted anyone to go down the path he has all though you are right he did like hurting anyone, he only hurt people who fucked with him. He's a good guy who's made bad decisions
There is a God and he owes you NOTHING. He sent his son so you can have eternal life though, mark made his choices and he knows the Bible, he is exalting himself like a fool above God, and yet Almighty God offers him eternal life, God didn’t sexually assault him, we live in a fallen world and there’s injustices everywhere yet God cuts through all that, seventh day Adventist is a cult, marks a culprit not a victim. Seventh-day Adventism is a sect of Christianity that believes, among other things, that worship services should be conducted on the “seventh day” (the Sabbath) instead of on Sunday. There seem to be different "degrees" of Seventh-day Adventism. Some Seventh-day Adventists believe identically to orthodox Christians, other than holding to the Saturday Sabbath. Other Adventists, however, go much further into aberrant doctrine. Seventh-day Adventism has its roots in Adventism, a 19th-century movement that anticipated the imminent appearance (or advent) of Jesus Christ. The Adventists were also called Millerites because their group was founded by William Miller, a false prophet who predicted Jesus would return in either 1843 or 1844. When Miller’s prediction of Christ’s second coming failed to come to pass, the Millerites disbanded in dismay; this event became known as the “Great Disappointment.” But then a couple of Miller’s followers claimed to have visions to account for the failed prophecy. Instead of coming to earth, Jesus had entered the heavenly temple-thus, Miller was right, after all, they said, except his prophecy had a spiritual fulfillment instead of a physical one. One of the seers who covered for Miller was 17-year-old Ellen G. Harmon, who had her first of 2,000 purported visions in a prayer meeting shortly after Miller’s disgrace. With her vision, Ellen soon became a beacon of hope for disillusioned Millerites. She united Adventist factions and became the spiritual guide for a new religious group. In 1846, Ellen married James White, an Adventist preacher. Soon they became convinced that Sabbath-keeping was for all Christians. In 1847, Ellen G. White had another vision-this one confirming her new belief that Sabbath-keeping was to be a primary doctrine. The Adventists under Ellen G. White’s influence became Seventh-day Adventists. Ellen G. White’s many visions and writings-she was a prolific writer-greatly shaped the doctrine of Seventh-day Adventism. Today, most Seventh-day Adventists still consider Ellen White to be a prophetess of God, even though many of her prophecies failed to come true. In fact, Seventh-day Adventists consider Revelation 19:10 (“the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”) to be a reference to Ellen G. White’s writings. In 1855, the Seventh-day Adventists settled in Battle Creek, Michigan, and in May 1863 the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists was officially incorporated. In the next five decades, Ellen G. White wrote nearly 10,000 pages of prophetic material. Included in the visions was the doctrine of “The Great Controversy,” a cosmic war being waged between Jesus and His angelic army and Satan and his. Other visions dealt with healthy eating habits, which Mrs. White called “the gospel of health” (Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 6, p. 327). Seventh-day Adventism places restrictions on consuming meat, or “flesh food,” as Adventists call it. “Flesh food is injurious to health, and whatever affects the body has a corresponding effect on the mind and the soul” (The Ministry of Healing, Chapter 24: “Flesh as Food,” p. 316). It is no surprise that, after requiring Sabbath-keeping, Adventists began to add other elements of legalism into their creed. Interestingly, Kellogg’s Corn Flakes was an Adventist creation: John Harvey Kellogg was a Seventh-day Adventist doctor in Battle Creek who wanted to manufacture a “healthy” vegetarian alternative to “unhealthy” breakfasts containing meat. Meanwhile, Mrs. White kept having visions, and she began teaching the unorthodox doctrines of soul sleep and annihilationism (which contradicts Matthew 25:46). Other problematic doctrines in Seventh-day Adventism include the teaching that Satan is the “scapegoat” and will bear believers’ sins (The Great Controversy, p. 422, 485)-this is the opposite of what the Bible says about who bore our sins (1 Peter 2:24). Seventh-day Adventism also identifies Jesus as Michael the archangel (Jude 1:9, Clear Word Bible, published by Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1994)-a doctrine that denies the true nature of Christ-and teaches that Jesus entered a second phase of His redemptive work on October 22, 1844, as prophesied by Hiram Edson. And, of course, the Adventist promotion of Sabbath-keeping as a primary doctrine goes against the teaching of Scripture on the matter (see Romans 14:5). Seventh-Day Adventism is a diverse movement, and not all SDA groups hold to all the doctrines mentioned above. But all Seventh-Day Adventists should seriously consider the following: a recognized prophetess in their church was a teacher of aberrant doctrine, and their church has its roots in the failed prophecies of William Miller. So, should a Christian attend a Seventh-day Adventist church? Due to the penchant of Adventists to accept extra-biblical revelation and the doctrinal issues mentioned above, we would strongly encourage believers to not get involved in Seventh-day Adventism. Yes, a person can be an advocate of Seventh-day Adventism and still be a believer. At the same time, there are enough potential risks to warn us against joining a Seventh-day Adventist church.
@@robmarshall956 What a load of complete and utter nonsense. We supposedly have this God who loves us all, puts us here on earth, already knowing how our lives will turn out, simply so we can suffer and worship him. If God is truly all-powerful and already knows before I’m born how my life will turn out, so what is the point? Why does God allow children to be born when he knows for some their short life will only be about enduring pain and suffering, such as hunger and starvation or torture and rape or some horrible medical condition like cancer? I agree with Chopper, if there is a God, he has some serious questions to answer. All religions are cults, not just the ones you choose not to follow.
@@MickC2167 be we chose to go our own way and there’s consequences for that. We said no God we know better, he didn’t give anyone cancer ) we live in a fallen world which we chose ) God has an answer for the child with cancer and the road fatalities and the tsunami victims ) do you ? You think you are smart you are a fool mick. So could a loving and holy God allow a baby to suffer a debilitating disease? The answer is partly contained in that very question. God is holy, and in His holiness He exercises judgment against the wickedness that is prevalent in human nature. When we ask the question with respect to infants, sometimes lurking behind that question is the unspoken assumption that babies are innocent. Virtually every church in the history of Christendom has had to develop some concept of what we call original sin because the Scriptures teach us so clearly that we are born in a sinful state and that the curse of the fall attends every human life. That sounds grim and dreadful until we realize that in that judgment on fallen humanity comes also the tempering of God’s wrath with mercy and grace and His whole work of redemption. We believe with great joyous anticipation that there is a special measure of grace that God has reserved for those who die in infancy. Jesus said, “Suffer the little children to come unto me, for to such belongs the kingdom of God” (Matt. 19:14). You have zero idea what you are talking about?
I like chopper....I think that Russian roulette scene with the lady in Tasmania was a pretty crafty and entertaining scene.... taken right out of malcom x with Denzel washington
Agnese Lind he once applied to the french foreign legion and was accepted but couldn't leave Australia obviously because of his criminal convictions but it was early on, his life would've been completely different had they let him go.
@@findout6903I can answer that question. I knew various members of his family. His cousins lived in Beecroft and were a wealth SDA family, none of whom engaged in a criminal life. He was also related to the Knight family, Dr John Knight who was more famously known as Dr James Wright, who in actual fact had time for Chopper. The doctor was worth hundreds of millions of dollars through property investments. Chopper was connected to a very wealthy family, he had connections that would have helped him if he had any inclination towards an education and a life of working. But being sexually abused, his father's reaction to that along with the bullying, helped him to go down the victim path. The only thing the SDA church and his mother failed to do was to help him to understand why he needed Jesus.
yeah at least he seems to follow some sort of code but who knows im sure if a "regular" person got in his way he could flip the crazy switch on that ass. Its a wonder he lived to tell about his escapades, I guess someone was looking out for him.
Rip The man who laughed at the criminal life by writing best sellers that the average person had to buy and read So who was the smartest criminal you were mark hope you are now have the new start you always wanted
Chopper was The Man people can call him a liar and a bullshitter but he ran that H Division and was Afraid of no man heard a great interview with ex prison officer talking about Chopper was saying the hardest of prisoners were terrified of him
He obviously had a tough type of upbringing, but so have lots of people. Definitely had a victim mentality, blamed SDA, father, mother. Architect of his own demise, everybody has choices, he chose the dark over the light.
Physically, sexually, verbally and emotionally abused and neglected as a child, tortured in a psychiatric hospital as a teenager for 6 months, diagnosed as at least partially autistic and potentially psychopathic, witnessed his therapist hang himself when he was a kid, bullied to hell, and helped his dad haul corpses of suicide and homicide victims for a living when he was a teen. Those things are not just "having a tough upbringing" and pointing to them as being something that contributed to his criminal lifestyle is not playing the victim. The fact he wasn't the most prolific serial killer or mass murderer in Australian history is a testament to the man's self control. And if you knew anything beyond this 9 minute video, you would know he fully owns up to the fact that he is responsible for his behavior, and outright denies the idea he is just a product of his environment
@@GodAboveAll777 Research more than one interview about Chopper... you will understand that Chopper lies. "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." Mark Brandon 'Chopper' Read
Because we all know that criminals who avoid cops and hang around criminals their whole life always get caught for everything they do. Not to mention, most of the things he claims got done in the short span between long prison sentences, so there was not as much chance of him getting investigated for it.
Unfortunately mark if only you knew what was waiting for you expect an apology from God sorry to say I don't think so you only have yourself to blame I just hope your children don't turn out like you if you can see yourself lying in your grave and you said you don't know what all the fuss is about
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Choppers upbringing is clearly a contributing factor to who he became.
😂
Yeah his Mum use to beat him up.
More the fact the mistreated his medical conditions
@@lukechapman8359 He got electrical shock treatment in Loony bins that didn't help.But at least he always had a sense of humour .
Noone is born evil.
There was more than meets the eye with Mark a tough character he was but hidden behind that facade was a man deep in thought in the purpose of his life. You cannot help but be attracted to his larrikin anti establishment character he will be remembered as a folk hero for generations
You & others are in desperate need of a modern day Ned Kelly, consumed by romantic notions of Robin Hood, a bloke who never hurt innocent people 😂😂😂 wake up
any kid born into seventh day adventism learns to ponder life and philosophy from the cradle. and though his mum was tough, she loved him, and she was a good woman.
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@@THEGLORYRISING my father'd often remind me overthafactoranarisingloriesofanadanadanaturalistidthlidthisesisathidildildэa⁰ur⁰mэ⁰anthanîkэliэieiэlledîх⁰ntîfîîпcнîîsн⁰пaк⁰vaптэrs⁰иzэxиraэîgэnэratî⁰nзls⁰fusfussîяussîan⁰vanatenA" zîxgîggthîxrsîgîgthîхsîxxarrrrrбîxthîxîx⁰tîcandix⁰nzзбy⁰lkзnзiзiailiзzзnnazîxthsgixxiзai⁰n⁰vĀndix⁰nzixgixrзa⁰inz
I 100% understand what he's talking about when he held his son in arms.
R.I.P mark.
God , has he been gone that long now ? I guess legends don’t die in the mind
I never heard of Chopper until yesterday. He lived a hard life. RIP Chopper
Bit early for that Jimmy 😂
Hes a real bloody character, would of been gd to sit down have a beer with..
2 years in risdon i laughed every bloody day thanks to Chopper & another insane inmate , cold shit hole place it was ..
I read that in an Australian accent 😂
Never been back ?
Chopper really was a lovable rogue who I am sure was full of a lot of hot air and big yarns but I am sure he did do a lot of the stuff he claimed to do. Kinda funny how such a violent and bad dude had so many people who adored him. He was a real character that is for sure
@yyxy wise man who was also notorious for twisting words in his story like he said that he killed the Turk not in self defence
Never let the truth get in the way of a bloody good yarn..
That's because he's the definition of a psychopath
RIP chopper. Job well done with Syd
@@bernardcumberbatch7795 Chopper shot Syd after drinking at the Clarendon Arms hotel, then rushed him to hospital..FACT!! I live here, have met the scumbag, we are all better off with the "non drug user" dying from Hep C related Liver cancer:/
@@bernardcumberbatch7795 welll, he was never seen again, IF he was even there in the first place:/ Noone else can back that one up, bit strange! Dont mean hes dead, and when chop was near dead he would not cop to that one, even though he bragged about doin him years ago:/ He had nothing to lose if he did, why not cop to it. Thats NOT Chops[was] MO. Anything he could he thought he could get away with he claimed pretty much, while baggin others for claiming shit he supposedly did:/ Storytime with Chopper,lol. Ive heard a few stories about what happened to Syd, but if anyone in his right mind believes Syd approached him after one of his terrible standup nights in South Australia after givin him up cold, their NOT in their right mind, hahaha, i laugh at the Russian gangster story though,lol
Rip chop chop
Beautiful to see him with his son
oh religion you"ve done it again
But of course, atheism leads people towards the pure life and has never been responsible for mass murderer's like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and Pol Pot.
So all Seventh Day Adventists are criminals then ?? Very narrow reasoning . ( I’m not an SDA) )
"by hurting them they could hurt me"
He was a great bloke,I read his first book years ago, I liked him them and I still do, he made some mistakes,but don't we ALL???R.I.P. Mark.
You obviously never met him:/
@@TheZacdes No, I never met him,did you.? There had to be some good in him? He told a good story,I'll give him that,and his books were entertaining.
@@lynnpurcell3182 A few times, i live in Launceston. Dont let the storys fool you. He was dangerously unpredictable, he loved bashing people, NOT just crims he was extorting though that was true mostly. There was no good in him i saw! The "story" about Syd was total crap,[not that Syd was a wonderful person by any stretch:/] he shot him out of nowhere while he was in a car driving to Launceston from Evandale pub a short distance away after a drinking session, then made up a total crap story about it, like so many of his yarns. The books were full of tall storys. The guy spent most of his life in prison, thankfully:/ One night in a pub here after he took umbrage at something minor a guy said, he followed him to the toilets and bashed and kicked the shit out of him while the guy was having a leak with his back turned. So many idiots idolize this fool when all they know about him is his books. Hardly a source of truth:/ Even Charlie Manson could have written books that made him seem just a misunderstood scallywag:/
@@TheZacdes he did have good actually, I don't know what's up with you my man, but he had respect for innocents, he never wanted anyone to go down the path he has all though you are right he did like hurting anyone, he only hurt people who fucked with him. He's a good guy who's made bad decisions
@@LOVEGAMING-zh7mn Have you ever met him?
If there's a God he owes me a bloody apology... the best
There is a God and he owes you NOTHING. He sent his son so you can have eternal life though, mark made his choices and he knows the Bible, he is exalting himself like a fool above God, and yet Almighty God offers him eternal life, God didn’t sexually assault him, we live in a fallen world and there’s injustices everywhere yet God cuts through all that, seventh day Adventist is a cult, marks a culprit not a victim.
Seventh-day Adventism is a sect of Christianity that believes, among other things, that worship services should be conducted on the “seventh day” (the Sabbath) instead of on Sunday. There seem to be different "degrees" of Seventh-day Adventism. Some Seventh-day Adventists believe identically to orthodox Christians, other than holding to the Saturday Sabbath. Other Adventists, however, go much further into aberrant doctrine.
Seventh-day Adventism has its roots in Adventism, a 19th-century movement that anticipated the imminent appearance (or advent) of Jesus Christ. The Adventists were also called Millerites because their group was founded by William Miller, a false prophet who predicted Jesus would return in either 1843 or 1844. When Miller’s prediction of Christ’s second coming failed to come to pass, the Millerites disbanded in dismay; this event became known as the “Great Disappointment.” But then a couple of Miller’s followers claimed to have visions to account for the failed prophecy. Instead of coming to earth, Jesus had entered the heavenly temple-thus, Miller was right, after all, they said, except his prophecy had a spiritual fulfillment instead of a physical one. One of the seers who covered for Miller was 17-year-old Ellen G. Harmon, who had her first of 2,000 purported visions in a prayer meeting shortly after Miller’s disgrace. With her vision, Ellen soon became a beacon of hope for disillusioned Millerites. She united Adventist factions and became the spiritual guide for a new religious group.
In 1846, Ellen married James White, an Adventist preacher. Soon they became convinced that Sabbath-keeping was for all Christians. In 1847, Ellen G. White had another vision-this one confirming her new belief that Sabbath-keeping was to be a primary doctrine. The Adventists under Ellen G. White’s influence became Seventh-day Adventists. Ellen G. White’s many visions and writings-she was a prolific writer-greatly shaped the doctrine of Seventh-day Adventism. Today, most Seventh-day Adventists still consider Ellen White to be a prophetess of God, even though many of her prophecies failed to come true. In fact, Seventh-day Adventists consider Revelation 19:10 (“the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”) to be a reference to Ellen G. White’s writings.
In 1855, the Seventh-day Adventists settled in Battle Creek, Michigan, and in May 1863 the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists was officially incorporated. In the next five decades, Ellen G. White wrote nearly 10,000 pages of prophetic material. Included in the visions was the doctrine of “The Great Controversy,” a cosmic war being waged between Jesus and His angelic army and Satan and his. Other visions dealt with healthy eating habits, which Mrs. White called “the gospel of health” (Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 6, p. 327). Seventh-day Adventism places restrictions on consuming meat, or “flesh food,” as Adventists call it. “Flesh food is injurious to health, and whatever affects the body has a corresponding effect on the mind and the soul” (The Ministry of Healing, Chapter 24: “Flesh as Food,” p. 316). It is no surprise that, after requiring Sabbath-keeping, Adventists began to add other elements of legalism into their creed.
Interestingly, Kellogg’s Corn Flakes was an Adventist creation: John Harvey Kellogg was a Seventh-day Adventist doctor in Battle Creek who wanted to manufacture a “healthy” vegetarian alternative to “unhealthy” breakfasts containing meat. Meanwhile, Mrs. White kept having visions, and she began teaching the unorthodox doctrines of soul sleep and annihilationism (which contradicts Matthew 25:46).
Other problematic doctrines in Seventh-day Adventism include the teaching that Satan is the “scapegoat” and will bear believers’ sins (The Great Controversy, p. 422, 485)-this is the opposite of what the Bible says about who bore our sins (1 Peter 2:24). Seventh-day Adventism also identifies Jesus as Michael the archangel (Jude 1:9, Clear Word Bible, published by Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1994)-a doctrine that denies the true nature of Christ-and teaches that Jesus entered a second phase of His redemptive work on October 22, 1844, as prophesied by Hiram Edson. And, of course, the Adventist promotion of Sabbath-keeping as a primary doctrine goes against the teaching of Scripture on the matter (see Romans 14:5).
Seventh-Day Adventism is a diverse movement, and not all SDA groups hold to all the doctrines mentioned above. But all Seventh-Day Adventists should seriously consider the following: a recognized prophetess in their church was a teacher of aberrant doctrine, and their church has its roots in the failed prophecies of William Miller.
So, should a Christian attend a Seventh-day Adventist church? Due to the penchant of Adventists to accept extra-biblical revelation and the doctrinal issues mentioned above, we would strongly encourage believers to not get involved in Seventh-day Adventism. Yes, a person can be an advocate of Seventh-day Adventism and still be a believer. At the same time, there are enough potential risks to warn us against joining a Seventh-day Adventist church.
@@robmarshall956 What a load of complete and utter nonsense. We supposedly have this God who loves us all, puts us here on earth, already knowing how our lives will turn out, simply so we can suffer and worship him. If God is truly all-powerful and already knows before I’m born how my life will turn out, so what is the point? Why does God allow children to be born when he knows for some their short life will only be about enduring pain and suffering, such as hunger and starvation or torture and rape or some horrible medical condition like cancer?
I agree with Chopper, if there is a God, he has some serious questions to answer. All religions are cults, not just the ones you choose not to follow.
@@MickC2167 be we chose to go our own way and there’s consequences for that. We said no God we know better, he didn’t give anyone cancer ) we live in a fallen world which we chose ) God has an answer for the child with cancer and the road fatalities and the tsunami victims ) do you ? You think you are smart you are a fool mick.
So could a loving and holy God allow a baby to suffer a debilitating disease? The answer is partly contained in that very question. God is holy, and in His holiness He exercises judgment against the wickedness that is prevalent in human nature. When we ask the question with respect to infants, sometimes lurking behind that question is the unspoken assumption that babies are innocent. Virtually every church in the history of Christendom has had to develop some concept of what we call original sin because the Scriptures teach us so clearly that we are born in a sinful state and that the curse of the fall attends every human life. That sounds grim and dreadful until we realize that in that judgment on fallen humanity comes also the tempering of God’s wrath with mercy and grace and His whole work of redemption. We believe with great joyous anticipation that there is a special measure of grace that God has reserved for those who die in infancy. Jesus said, “Suffer the little children to come unto me, for to such belongs the kingdom of God” (Matt. 19:14). You have zero idea what you are talking about?
@@MickC2167 I’d recommend before commenting further you read is God a moral monster by copan otherwise you are just going to sound more foolish.
@@robmarshall956 I don't need to read a justification of a bunch of old fairytales to know religion makes no sense at all.
Top bloke. Would have been awesome to have met him.
So glad I met you Chop😘
@Xavier Long I met the Legend in 2002 at Tweed Heads when he was doing his shows with Jacko😁😉❤
Sad he is no longer here😔
Reckon he'd make a good Instagram influencer, if he'd lived a little longer. Life skills coach etc.
I like chopper....I think that Russian roulette scene with the lady in Tasmania was a pretty crafty and entertaining scene.... taken right out of malcom x with Denzel washington
A true survivor
R.I.P uncle chopp chopp
Can hear the "H" division in his voice 😪
@Paul Mills he lived more in his lifetime than all us in the comment section combined
Are you implying he's on heroin?
possibly methadone and some type of anti-psych but who knows. He'd been institutionalized for so long !
I didn't mind Chopper...he certainly mellowed in his later years, but I certainly would not want to cross him. 😵💫👍
love ya chop chop RIP
I read that in blueys voice
Say what ya want.. Hes a legend.
R.I.P Chopper
So what would have Chopper Reid been like had he been adopted out to a non-religious family at birth and never been sexually abused?.
Agnese Lind he once applied to the french foreign legion and was accepted but couldn't leave Australia obviously because of his criminal convictions but it was early on, his life would've been completely different had they let him go.
quite possibly like all the other white collar criminals out there full stop ?
@@jakgit858 He couldn't have been accepted with a criminal record, and you don't gt accepted until you pass basic.
I carnt answer that question. He felt a loner as well. So Chopper took the Bull by the horns this is life. So be it. RIP
@@findout6903I can answer that question. I knew various members of his family. His cousins lived in Beecroft and were a wealth SDA family, none of whom engaged in a criminal life. He was also related to the Knight family, Dr John Knight who was more famously known as Dr James Wright, who in actual fact had time for Chopper. The doctor was worth hundreds of millions of dollars through property investments. Chopper was connected to a very wealthy family, he had connections that would have helped him if he had any inclination towards an education and a life of working. But being sexually abused, his father's reaction to that along with the bullying, helped him to go down the victim path. The only thing the SDA church and his mother failed to do was to help him to understand why he needed Jesus.
yeah at least he seems to follow some sort of code but who knows im sure if a "regular" person got in his way he could flip the crazy switch on that ass. Its a wonder he lived to tell about his escapades, I guess someone was looking out for him.
Who likes lamb chops?
Rip The man who laughed at the criminal life by writing best sellers that the average person had to buy and read So who was the smartest criminal you were mark hope you are now have the new start you always wanted
and he cant even spell..
He wasn't smart. Not even in the long run. People just want someone weird to gawk at
Chopper was The Man people can call him a liar and a bullshitter but he ran that H Division and was Afraid of no man heard a great interview with ex prison officer talking about Chopper was saying the hardest of prisoners were terrified of him
never let the truth get in the way of a good story
It’s a good yarn
A true Aussie champion
“If there is a God, he owes me a bloody apology” 😂
His parents are the ones responsible not God.
I’m an outsider!!!! Outside of everythinggggg 🎶
He was a frightening man
wow and awesome view on things
Copper spent his life informing on people to the police and lagging to the screws in prison.
hi chopper miss seein ya at richmond put with the boys
Aussie Legend
Read the book
Nearly Bumped into him exiting a shop in smith st Collingwood back in the late 2000s
At least he did one great thing in his life ,killed a pedo in jail
No might been the ice man
Hey God! St Peter here reckons you want to give me a bit of money is that true?
RIP
God doesn't apologize to you. But rather you are held accountable for YOUR actions.
He has past away
He was a bad man
Redtube
Tupac
Metallica
Commenceros
Quite life
He obviously had a tough type of upbringing, but so have lots of people.
Definitely had a victim mentality, blamed SDA, father, mother.
Architect of his own demise, everybody has choices, he chose the dark over the light.
Physically, sexually, verbally and emotionally abused and neglected as a child, tortured in a psychiatric hospital as a teenager for 6 months, diagnosed as at least partially autistic and potentially psychopathic, witnessed his therapist hang himself when he was a kid, bullied to hell, and helped his dad haul corpses of suicide and homicide victims for a living when he was a teen. Those things are not just "having a tough upbringing" and pointing to them as being something that contributed to his criminal lifestyle is not playing the victim. The fact he wasn't the most prolific serial killer or mass murderer in Australian history is a testament to the man's self control. And if you knew anything beyond this 9 minute video, you would know he fully owns up to the fact that he is responsible for his behavior, and outright denies the idea he is just a product of his environment
What"" that makes no sense not to bother regular folks on the street yet if your robbing a bank or shop what are those people referred as???? anyone
idol
OH YEH OUR CHOPPER!!!!! FUNNY AS HELL!! Got rid of the garbage
Ozz
how can u be afraid of nothingness thats some fucked up shit tight there
Poor bugger
Explains why he was the way he was. Horrible childhood.
p.s and the judge.
i mean the pub lmfao,,
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If Chopper had of done half the things he claims he wldve be doing life. But the stories are fun.
Watch his final interview on 60 minutes...you will retract this comment.
@@GodAboveAll777 Research more than one interview about Chopper... you will understand that Chopper lies.
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story."
Mark Brandon 'Chopper' Read
Because we all know that criminals who avoid cops and hang around criminals their whole life always get caught for everything they do. Not to mention, most of the things he claims got done in the short span between long prison sentences, so there was not as much chance of him getting investigated for it.
@@MrMojo23100 hey buddy he says yarn not story so stop acting like you know him.
Tasmanians are weird.
Unfortunately mark if only you knew what was waiting for you expect an apology from God sorry to say I don't think so you only have yourself to blame I just hope your children don't turn out like you if you can see yourself lying in your grave and you said you don't know what all the fuss is about
Oh sorry wss i being rude. Yes u been bloody rude
Dont think the religion came into i think that wat happened
Lol he shit his pants
why do people use the past as an excuse for their present day actions?
People who are raped at a young age dont see the world the same as your average tom, dick & harry.
John 3.16 Exactly
Jimmy Loughnin is a fictional character, I call bullshit on this clip
Was just a crim.show pony .
Nice.. too bad it wasnt longer but if you edited this fantasy0coach its a damn good.. i see im 9 years late but shit this is youtube so thats ok
Ol chop . Had a few too many Xanax before the interview