Unboxing and testing the re.corder! | Team Recorder

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  • @jonprudhomme7694
    @jonprudhomme7694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Midi instruments never cease to surprise and delight me when an unexpected voice comes out of a package I have a preconceived notion about.

    • @christophertsiliacos8958
      @christophertsiliacos8958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      batteries included 😊 ♫

    • @TrevorSmith-hs1cg
      @TrevorSmith-hs1cg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

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      MAN 0 WAR BOSWELL

  • @martifingers
    @martifingers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    I'd say the developers got a totally cracking deal by sending you the re.corder. All that expert feedback ? Basically getting a consultant for free.
    But what is really impressive is Sarah's openness and enthusiasm. No elitism here , sneering or otherwise.

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Aww thanks, that’s lovely to hear :)

    • @artinoise
      @artinoise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      you're absolutely right, we'll be eternally grateful to Sarah for her precious advices and the time she's invested in making this video. Grazie Sarah... if you ever come to Italy remember about us and please, be our guest :)

    • @marklammas2465
      @marklammas2465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sarah, you're a smile-maker, a first class musician and a real lady for a real world. I love that digital wonder. I used to have a "digital horn" which I interfaced to my synthesiser via midi. Sadly, burglars relieved me of it.

    • @sgtgrash
      @sgtgrash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@artinoise Well done Artinoise this is such an amazing and versatile instrument, and thank you Sarah for giving them your valuable feedback in order to help them to refine it, I'm off to put my name on the waiting list... 👍😉

    • @flotenstimme4608
      @flotenstimme4608 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You know, it now comes with a second mute-tap in case you loose the first one? ;-) Did ypu clean THW recorder, I know it is a stupid question, but the stick that was delivered along with it barely fits in the re.corder and if I add any Kind of small tissue it won't enter at all. Would be glad for any advice. Tried the one from my sopranino but it is too short...
      Amyway thanks for the great Video without it I would have never known about it...

  • @stephanelarochelle2484
    @stephanelarochelle2484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I had never heard about it ... You can always depend on Sarah to keep us up to date on anything recorder related ... thanks Sarah!

  • @kevingalvin3456
    @kevingalvin3456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a person always trying to play the recorder, re.corder is the best thing ever. I learned more in month that I have in years. Nobody has to listen to my mistakes.

  • @norwaysofen
    @norwaysofen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How FUN!!! I'm on the waiting list. I've been a recorderplayer for 50 years, and find this very cool. (I also have an Orba from Artiphone, love playing with music and sounds. )

  • @Chris.Brisson
    @Chris.Brisson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That was a valuable review, both for consumers and developers. This product excites me at that price point. Over 30 years ago, I enjoyed playing the Casio DH-100, and this product has much more potential for fun. If Artinoise makes your suggested improvements, I'd like to form a postmodern Devo with all bandmates playing a re.corder. Imagine what fun we'd have!

    • @250tegra
      @250tegra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Chris Brisson - Casio DH-100! Yes! I loved that, but 'had' to give it to my young cousin whose enthusiasm for it was overwhelming. That had very good breath control, using a sensor that looked like a small loudspeaker with a plastic cone. The cone was displaced by the back-pressure, and the electronics detected this. Very effective.

  • @johnferrie4209
    @johnferrie4209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This channel is one of the most joyful experiences you can have on TH-cam, whether you play the recorder or not!

  • @guitfidle
    @guitfidle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So first off, you are just adorable. I love your enthusiasm!! This really is a cool idea, especially since most electronic wind instruments are useless without power or a battery- being able to play it acoustically is a game changer here.

  • @LarryShone
    @LarryShone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I've been following this with interest. The main area that interests me is the ability to use headphones so you can practise silently. To listen to someone play the same passage over and over must be really annoying and can stop the learner from playing, but if you can plug headphones in, perfect!

    • @laurameier4482
      @laurameier4482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This was my main reason for backing this on Kickstarter. Still waiting for delivery, so excited to get this! The one note on using headphones is you want to have a device you can plug the headphones in directly. My understanding is bluetooth headphones would introduce more latency.

    • @LarryShone
      @LarryShone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@laurameier4482 bluetooth headphones, oh no thanks. I have a pair and though they're great for listening to music I bought a dongle and tried them with my digital piano. The delay was so bad it was unplayable

    • @adolforodolfo6929
      @adolforodolfo6929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, you can use headphones to practise silently. When playing digitally, with the mute plug in, the re.corder itself doesn't produce any sound; the sound is produced via the app on your phone, Ipad, PC, whatever you have connected the re.corder to via bluetooth - so you just plug your headphones into the device in question, not into the re.corder. And you're right - don't use bluetooth headphones or you will get significant latency problems.

    • @LarryShone
      @LarryShone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adolforodolfo6929 sounds like its still using Bluetooth to connect to your phone, tablet etc

    • @adolforodolfo6929
      @adolforodolfo6929 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LarryShone Yes, absolutely, that is the only way it can connect to anything - it can't be wired in, it doesn't have a USB connection capability.

  • @gerardvila4685
    @gerardvila4685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I have a re.corder (from the kickstarter). I agree with everything Sarah said, especially regarding the latency and the lack of explanation to the menus.
    The most important thing to me is, although it's very impressive, this is NOT a wind instrument. It's a MIDI controller using your breath and your finger positions, etc. A real recorder, like any wind instrument, is exquisitely sensitive to your breath - the pitch changes when you blow harder or softer, and it "speaks" when you use your tongue to articulate (ta-da-da or whatever). This thing is not, and I have some difficulty with complex rythms. It's a bit like the difference between your own arm and a bionic arm if you've had your arm amputated. The bionic arm might be a lot stronger, but nobody would cut off their arm to get one!

    • @alessandropozzi9575
      @alessandropozzi9575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excuse me I have a question ... but when you play, the sound comes out of the flute or the phone

    • @gerardvila4685
      @gerardvila4685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alessandropozzi9575 It can be played as an ordinary recorder, but not a very good one!
      The normal way to play is as a MIDI controller. Each hole is equipped with sensors (2 for the thumb-hole), plus there is a sensor measuring how hard you blow - you have to put on a mute that redirects air to the sensor. The on-board CPU sends a stream of notes through a bluetooth connection to an app on your phone or PC, which in turn is in charge of generating the notes.
      Don't get me wrong, if a breath-controlled MIDI controller is what you want it's very good value, and it's quite fun to be able to switch between a flute, an oboe, a sax or a cello. But it's a completely different thing from any of those instruments in real life.

    • @alessandropozzi9575
      @alessandropozzi9575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gerardvila4685 Ok Thanks!

    • @bluedragontoybash2463
      @bluedragontoybash2463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so basically in theory it would be easier to learn than the basic recorder ?

    • @vsijben
      @vsijben ปีที่แล้ว

      Is there, to your knowledge, an alternative electronic recorder that does a better job of being sensitive to your breath and fine finger subtleties?

  • @mirandascorner4901
    @mirandascorner4901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    fun fact abt me i just started playing recorder 1 week ago and learnd 2 songs ! bc of sarah

    • @mirandascorner4901
      @mirandascorner4901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Emilie T. Bühler I started last week bc I had to get a recorder never new how much I would live it

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Awwww yay that’s lovely to hear! ❤️

    • @mirandascorner4901
      @mirandascorner4901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Team_Recorder yw im in shock that u replied to Me aaa welll i love u and your videos already

    • @maltekempff4197
      @maltekempff4197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeaaa I got my recorder singe Wednesday the 31st of March. It is the plastic baroque recorder in renaissance-look. I love Sarah's channel since it is so inspirational.
      Ehe trigger of buying the recorder was singe ny clarinet broke and needs a repair. So why not learning a new instrument and it' s really fun

  • @wolflahti412
    @wolflahti412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A thorough and clear review - far better than most on TH-cam. Good job!

  • @-John-Rambo-
    @-John-Rambo- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Yamaha: piano can play as recorder.
    Artinoise: Well, now recorder can play as piano. All in balance!

    • @liamwatson5125
      @liamwatson5125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the recorder played as trumpet, it would be like you were playing a Cornett.

    • @artinoise
      @artinoise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it was about time for the recorder's revenge :)

    • @AMPProf
      @AMPProf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about my kazoo???

    • @liamwatson5125
      @liamwatson5125 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AMPProf Crumhorns sound like kazoos, don’t they?

  • @TheLostMedici
    @TheLostMedici 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just watched all your videos on different EWI devices - your advice as a recorder player is the only one I trust to make a selection between these devices. Thanks for your thoughtful comments from a recorder-focused musician.

  • @theresa74
    @theresa74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There is a downloadable manual in the help section. I was a kick starter backer and have mine, it’s good for silent practice when insomnia hits 🙂

  • @PianoManChuck
    @PianoManChuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely brilliant review! Nothing left to wonder about, Sarah has answered everything you'd want to know, and more!

  • @lorenzoemmepi3302
    @lorenzoemmepi3302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best review I've seen! Not just an unboxing as a lot of people do

  • @CavyWheek
    @CavyWheek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sarah, I love your reviews partly because you give such good, constructive criticism pointing out where improvements can be made. Your videos are 🔥

  • @Sevenorora
    @Sevenorora 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Sarah drops strap "I'm living life on the edge"
    :')

  • @organist1982
    @organist1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    In acoustic mode, it sounds more like an Irish whistle to me than a recorder, so it's like a pennywhistle with recorder fingerings.

  • @idraote
    @idraote 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No need to apologise, I'm sure they knew they were sending their re.corder to a very competent professional!
    And what a great review!!!
    I had dabbled with the idea of buying one of these thingies, there are other midi electronics around, but they are hugely expensive and they have one gazillion functions I will never use because I'm just an amateur and not a composer.
    Then I saw some previews of this instrument and thought, yes, but how does it work?
    And now, thanks to Sarah, I know.
    I was attracted by the idea of a midi instrument based on the recorder - not with its own fingerings but with recorder's fingerings. The learning section would also be great for me. The midi section I don't need but I'm sure others might like it.
    I am a bit put off by the problems you mention and I do hope they amend them because the price is great and I'd buy one on the spot.

    • @nicholaslarson3778
      @nicholaslarson3778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, hopefully they take notice of Sarah's criticisms. They some like they are mostly software related so they should be able to fix everything or add some kind of software toggle options (like to turn auto-vibrato on or off). They may need to modify the midis a bit to make them seem more responsive, but that sound be something they can easily do at this point.

  • @Pattamatt1998
    @Pattamatt1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the demo of Sicilienne, I'm doing that piece for my senior recital for trumpet and you don't see it too terribly often, especially outside of strings.

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s a beautiful piece isn’t it!

  • @fancydeer
    @fancydeer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's super affordable for what it is (that's about $75 usd or something.) I could see it being used for a wide range of recorder players. It could be fun new learning tool for students, a creative new tool for musicians, great for sound effects, used in performances... Hopefully they take these critiques into consideration before they send it to market and come out with a banging product. this looks super cool

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, I’d love to use it with students! Would be so fun!

  • @anthonymccarthy4164
    @anthonymccarthy4164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    If they added software to produce microtones and historical scales it would be great.

  • @Ravbea
    @Ravbea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was an "early bird orderer" and already have mine - and it's fun. I totally agree to Sarahs comments (especially the notation irritates me), still struggeling a bit with the bluetooth connections and the best settings. This also depends on the phone/tablet you use. - By the way, Sarah, there's an extra cord to attach the little "mute" plastic to the neck strap (so you won't lose it :-) .

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhhh maybe I should have put on the neck strap!

    • @Ravbea
      @Ravbea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😁 ....it looks/reminds me of the very first smartphones where you were able to attach little charms/pendants - same system

  • @luanamendes1710
    @luanamendes1710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wow , I never have imagined that this re.corder exists lol

  • @sarabaldeschwieler7763
    @sarabaldeschwieler7763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely, I want one. Thanks for the detailed review.

  • @Bladel1965
    @Bladel1965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sarah, that's what I call a good review. BTW, you can use the small lanyard loops that came with it to attach the mute to the instrument, so you won't lose it. It says so in the manual ;-)
    I bought my re.corder through the Kickstarter campaign to add another windcontroller to my 18 piece collection. I've been a sax player for decades before converting to windcontrollers a few decades ago. I've never played the recorder, so I'll have to learn the fingerings. For me it was just a gimmick to add to the collection and never intended to be used regularly. I have more professional windcontrollers for that. However, I was pleasantly surprised by what my €60 got me. I have more expensive windcontrollers with less features. When latency is too high, it's unusable as an instrument. I have noticed some latency with the re.corder. You make some great observation when pointing out the attack of the sound patch. Since you can play the piano patch without latency, the Bluetooth connection isn't causing the issue. I would suspect they intentionally increased the breath response time to prevent glitches (unintended ghost notes) that are so common when playing an electronic wind instrument set to respond fast. If they would add a parameter to adjust the breath response time it would be much better. Maybe they did already with all the MIDI curves you can set, but I agree with you, that UI could be improved as well. All in all, for the money I paid as an early bird on Kickstarter, it offers a lot. From what I've heard so far, I'm quite sure future production runs will not be as cheap as the initial Kickstarter run.

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad you enjoyed! Yes, in the settings you can change all kinds of parameters, but it was something that try as I could, I couldn't get it to do what I wanted it to... On the EWI the button to breath threshold to prevent those ghost notes is super handy, so a similar interface would be great.

    • @250tegra
      @250tegra 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Blade1965 - Heh! You have more wind controllers than I do! Well done! 👍Yes, you are right - the €60 price (about 50 quid) is long gone, and Gear4music is asking €157 (£135 ) today and seem to be out of stock ? I mostly use our EWI USB with home-brewed patches in ALSA Modular Synth, an old fave. Just checked Thomann - £125 plus postage and allegedly in stock. Thank you for the informed analysis - whilst I'd like one, that is a lot of grocery vouchers to pay in these troubled times😉.

  • @ashleighmason4982
    @ashleighmason4982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this review, very helpful for me. I've just seen those on the market, but not for 60E. More like 180E. I think the best feature is the possibility to play on headphones at night 😊

  • @shieladixon
    @shieladixon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Sarah, my 'earlybird' re.corder has just arrived and so far I'm delighted. Less plasticky and toy-like than I half-expected. Your review definitely helped to convince me. It seems that they listened to you! My mute plug has a little clip that clips it firmly to the lanyard when not in use. Good work.

  • @LuSa17
    @LuSa17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the detailed informations about the new re.corder!

  • @aaronmichaud1
    @aaronmichaud1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy your presentations; you are a celebrity in my world.

  • @stefaniedecoster2772
    @stefaniedecoster2772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh this looks FUN! And I'd love to be able to play any time with headphones in and that's possible too. Thanks for the review Sarah, I've just added myself to their waiting list. I wonder how many colours they'll make it in....

  • @Refrigescere
    @Refrigescere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I toally agree with you, Sarah! What I would like to add is the possibility to plug it into a computer and work with it on Cubase or other programs.

    • @artinoise
      @artinoise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pardon the intrusion... You can absolutely connect re.corder to any DAW (Cubase, Logic, FL Studio, etc), in fact in our opinion that is definitely the scenario in which the instrument performs best.

    • @Refrigescere
      @Refrigescere 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@artinoise oh,nice. I thought it only works with the app. Now I am considering to buy it.

  • @marcpinion
    @marcpinion ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a guitarist and synth player. you demonstrate this very well and make me want one.

  • @paulschleuse3547
    @paulschleuse3547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for playing Maria Theresa von Paradis!

  • @jhhl
    @jhhl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also: re.corder's Bluetooth MIDI connects to zillions of responsive MIDI synths and samplers, with plenty of modulation possibilities.

  • @johnroberts262
    @johnroberts262 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like these new wind instruments because you can control the sound so you don't disturb family or neighbors while you practice.

  • @twothreebravo
    @twothreebravo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just discovered your channel and I'm not musical myself so I live vicariously through those that are and I just wanted to say that you a a joy to watch. Thanks for putting great information out there on an oft under appreciated instrument!

  • @williamsrdan
    @williamsrdan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Definitely looks like it could be a fun substitute for the Akai EWI.

  • @GenWivern2
    @GenWivern2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Looks like a kazoo; sounds like a first generation Casiotone. Obviously I totally want one. :-)

    • @jhhl
      @jhhl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Casio put out the amazing CasioHorn, which looked like a kind of a Sax, but had recorder fingering. And: it sounded like a Casio, but was also MIDI equipped.

  • @jeffgaines8358
    @jeffgaines8358 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a brilliant and fun review, I am waiting patiently for my Re.corder to be dispatched and look forward to some more performances from you :-)

  • @250tegra
    @250tegra 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Excellent as ever, and so informative! To update everyone interested in buying one, the good news is that it is on Gear4Music as well as Thomann - but here in the UK the price is ~£135.00!
    So sad about that. I'm still interested, but will be sticking with my Akai EWI, which was about the same price when new. Well done with the thorough review!😀

  • @victotronics
    @victotronics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the "built-in vibrato" is a sample looping. If you use this to trigger not the app but a software synthesizer it'll be a lot better.

    • @artinoise
      @artinoise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you are exactly right. re.corder is a MIDI over BLUETOOTH controller, therefore it can be used with any DAW and external midi sound source th-cam.com/video/xuWZp4qaF2g/w-d-xo.html

  • @cestjane2260
    @cestjane2260 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just heard about this at NAMM and got one. It’ll be my first MIDI instrument.

  • @crnova7
    @crnova7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just installed the Chamber Orchestra by Versilian Studios. Now waiting for my re.corder😊

  • @personayo6018
    @personayo6018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You had great fun!
    I quit learning the recorder bc noise complaints.... I'm waiting for mine to arrive!

  • @hajarasabialao9805
    @hajarasabialao9805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good GRACIOUS! Lord bless the inventor of this instrument forever! I simply and absolutely love its versatility! 🌸🌸🌸✨✨

  • @Fulc
    @Fulc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The main problem I heard with that recorder sample (not the actual tone of the instrument played acoustically, the electronic version of it) is that they built the attack into each note, and it takes a fraction of a second to bloom.. and then when it does, it has a bit of Ian Anderson-style second-harmonic overblowing in it. Every. Time. You hit. The note. That fraction of a second before it blooms could actually be the source of what you're hearing as latency issues with that voice - you say you didn't experience it with, say, the guitar voice. Otherwise.. a €69 Lyricon? Yeah sign me up!

  • @jcortese3300
    @jcortese3300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can see the mute hingeing upward to be clicked into place away from the labium, because you're right -- that thing is waiting to get lost.

  • @laurameier4482
    @laurameier4482 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Sarah! As a backer still waiting on my instrument it was great to see. I shared this video on the re.corder facebook group and it was a bit hit!

  • @leocremonezi
    @leocremonezi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm really amazed with this recorder!!!

  • @robertschaaf8606
    @robertschaaf8606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The design is based on sampled sounds, and not tone generators, so the built-in vibrato is the result of looping through the sample. I don't imagine there's much the manufacturer can do about it, but I've heard worse. If they stick to the price point, it's an amazing value, and I share your enthusiasm.

    • @edmilham4172
      @edmilham4172 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, it looks like they already haven't stuck to the price point. Their website now says "Price: 180 €/$." Still a good price for a decent wind controller, though.

  • @PootaurStuff
    @PootaurStuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your accent and facial expressions, and your playing is AMAZING!!! Thumbs up for sure! You seem like such a lovely person!!!

  • @susannekalejaiye4351
    @susannekalejaiye4351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super cool!
    Please attach the labium inset to the recorder semi permanently.

  • @ninjaaron
    @ninjaaron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It occurs to me that I am not the target market for this, but it is still pretty cool. 👍

  • @Ernireg3
    @Ernireg3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a yamaha recorder and I must say the sound is so much better than the cheap brandless recorder I had bought about 12 years ago!

  • @teacher5376
    @teacher5376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soft and smooth feels, of sounds, voices so sweet's. This is the rights, recorders.....feels .

  • @StraightLineCycles
    @StraightLineCycles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yes this is it! The death metal recorder exsist!

    • @surfdigby
      @surfdigby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Back in the 90s, I had an idea for a heavy rock recorder song/album/career. I think I wrote the intro to one song before abandoning it as everyone was telling me it was a terrible idea.

    • @StraightLineCycles
      @StraightLineCycles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@surfdigby Not a bad idea.

  • @thomasr.jackson2940
    @thomasr.jackson2940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a fun instrument! Re physical styling, I wish there were more plain old acoustic recorders for the general market with more modern stylings and ornamentation.

  • @robertnoblitt518
    @robertnoblitt518 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Re.corder is now (Feb. 2023) priced at $133 U.S. dollars at Thomann. Reviews posted are mixed. Sarah's review seems very complete and fair, but I don't really like the sounds produced by the device, and feel the latency would drive me crazy. I already have a digital wind instrument that I really like: The Yamaha YDS-150.

  • @UkeMe
    @UkeMe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    While I wait and wait and wait for mine to arrive (I was an early backer) ... I appreciate your review. As someone that has worked with sampling, I'm pretty sure the problem with the recorder sounds and latency has to do with the actual recorder samples (which are sub-par) ... They ought to hire you for a recording session and get some quality samples in there. :-)

  • @rw218
    @rw218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the lip sensor. I play tin whistle, but there are days I can barely breathe. So that would be wonderful.

  • @philb4462
    @philb4462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sarah, you are very entertaining to watch, and very nice looking too! I'm going to watch more of your videos even though I don't have any specific interest in the recorder.

  • @fmphotooffice5513
    @fmphotooffice5513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tiny plastic mute is something that belongs in a prototype. There should be a simple sliding interruptor to block or change the the wind path. Esoteric electronics companies relying on mobile apps are prone to be sold and dropped. (At least it's a recorder.) The battery concerns with the CarryOn device also apply. Both devices are being cheap with the chosen (slow) microprocessors. These aren't car radios. They're supposed to be seamless versions of wind instruments.

    • @adolforodolfo6929
      @adolforodolfo6929 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think that a sliding interruptor would be practical; the mute doesn't cover the labium hole, it diverts the air stream so that the recorder is silent; the muting surface is at an angle, it doesn't cover the hole horizontally (in fact the air stream still has to be able to escape through the labium whole or the air pressure would be too high and you would have very little dynamic control). The mobile/tablet app is not the only option for playing digitally; you can also use it as a midi controller on your PC. I've had one for nearly a year now - no battery problems whatsoever; a full charge lasts two weeks if you don't use the re.corder and about two days of heavy use. I don't agree at all that this is supposed to be a "seamless version of a wind instrument"; it is an instrument in its own right; when you are playing digitally, the only way in which it is exactly the same as a recorder is in the default fingering, and you can change that if you want to. Personally, I didn't buy it as a recorder, I bought it as a midi controller that I could play "out of the box" because I already knew the fingering from playing the recorder. If all that you want is a recorder, then buy a recorder,

  • @amalkatrazz
    @amalkatrazz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d say the one thing to improve would be the synth sounds: piano just screams midi. Perhaps allow adding your own samples? Or connecting to a third-party synth/vst?

    • @ajbp95
      @ajbp95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a pianist I can't agree more!

    • @adolforodolfo6929
      @adolforodolfo6929 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can connect to a third party synth/vst, but only by bluetooth.

  • @oboedj
    @oboedj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Superb review. I'm sold on getting one of these when they're generally available. FWIW, as a software developer, I'd appreciate all the specific critiques as valuable input for future revisions / iterations.
    I imagine the strap is for kids who are otherwise bound to drop what is a presumably more delicate instrument than a $5 plastic soprano?

  • @rjones1357
    @rjones1357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has it really been only a year? I really feel you did a great job with this video. You are really a great resource. Thanks.

  • @brianrobison
    @brianrobison 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing your detailed expert observations!

  • @dragonania
    @dragonania 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:15 nice function! Finally I could play some duets by myself :D

  • @OndrejPopp
    @OndrejPopp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well it took almost 40 years, but finally the mystery why they call this instrument a"recorder" and not a "flute" has been revealed... tx for that!

    • @YozhikvTumane
      @YozhikvTumane 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's called a recorder from the Italian word "ricorda", meaning "remember", from the time when the instrument was used by singers to memorize the melodies for what we usually call _Gregorian Chants_

    • @OndrejPopp
      @OndrejPopp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YozhikvTumane Tx! That's what I call information! So thank you for explaining 😃 grazie!

    • @YozhikvTumane
      @YozhikvTumane 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OndrejPopp It's also been said that the name comes from bringing the instrument outside to replicate and "remember" the melodies sung by birds

  • @burkhardstackelberg1203
    @burkhardstackelberg1203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Sarah,
    a tech idea that comes into mind when I saw you dropping the labium clip: They could make it a cover you shift up and down over the labium. I don't know whether it actually works as fine like the clip version they built...

  • @chp763
    @chp763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Life on the edge 😍😍

  • @ekasoepadmo5417
    @ekasoepadmo5417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just found out there is a musical instrument like this that is wonderful

  • @Hero-hc2um
    @Hero-hc2um 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review. Hopefully we'll have one someday. 👍🙂

  • @AMPProf
    @AMPProf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Note: I own and play an Akai EWI
    11:16 A possible fix:
    As it stands wind players don't normally see nor think of Attack-Sustain-Hold-delay or vibration of the waveform. once you learn it it's more like "ohhhhhh yahhh"
    Changing the levels of the ADSR for Most Electronic Wind Instruments: faster tonguing/breath is usually achieved with longer sustain/hold levels. As for vibrato that in its own right is a control unto itself as a Modulation of the waveform! Set as midi cc message #1 for Modulation. as it stands two solutions exist a lip/bite/thumb Sensor or a Complex pick-up Sensor (in this case micro mic for post fx under audio to midi).
    unfortunatly
    * Note2 it could be Hardwear: Under conditions for most delay problems, it's simply an issue of the Latency of computer code from the sensor reaching the cpu device in time to be processed and output through the speakers.

  • @joerxworx7299
    @joerxworx7299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    just a wonderful review ! ... informative and very entertaining ! cool !

  • @voilierxavi
    @voilierxavi 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks again for the good explanations but where can I find sheet music for beginners on this type of instrument ?

  • @imjstcl
    @imjstcl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    maybe the mute can be on a hinge? it could maybe flip up towards the player? I dont play recorder though so I dont know how that whistle hole thing's geometry works.

  • @trhlajz
    @trhlajz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally, after ~3 months of strugling with latency (Re.Corder & Android), I have "solved" (bypassed) this issue → with external "MIDI BLE to USB" dongle ("WIDI bud Pro") + pocket MIDI soundModule ("Midiplus MiniEngine"), connected through 3,5mm Line-OUT to active repro.
    ♫ And voil'a: now we have an instant "GeneralMIDI" audio output (128 instruments + reverb), without any "computer" (Android, Apple, Windows, etc.) ... and most importantly → without any noticeable LATENCY (y) 😊

  • @2000konnie
    @2000konnie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be great if Artinoise could fix some of the things. It would probably be expensive for them, but if they could offset the pinky finger holes, that would be a selling point. Also, it would be really cool if there was a button to easily extend the range, especially lower.

    • @adolforodolfo6929
      @adolforodolfo6929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are buttons to shift the range by octaves in both directions - they are a little bit fiddly, so you need a bit of clear space (a bar or two) in what you are playing to do it - but I find you hardly ever need to; this is because the fingering is configurable and you can extend the range both up and down beyond the range of a conventional recorder. There is a limit to how many fingerings you can have at anyone time, but it's quite big. Theoretically you could set the re.corder up to have nearly a 5 octave range, but it wouldn't be very practical for a number of reasons. I've set mine up to have a three and a half octave range, which, given that I can shift that range up or down by octaves, is enough to accommodate most instruments that I want to 'mimic'.

  • @StefHaynes
    @StefHaynes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My theory is that the latency when starting the note with breath is actually just a slow attack in the ADSR envelope. Will test when I get my own!

    • @christianknuchel
      @christianknuchel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds likely, but it could also be in the sample. It's already quite wet. For as long as the instrument isn't bound to its app, any of those issues could indeed be easily sorted by patching it into any sample player or VST with recorder sounds.

    • @adolforodolfo6929
      @adolforodolfo6929 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That matches with my experience. Yes, there are some settings that you can change in the app that can make a difference to apparent latency, but the most important factor is the ADSR envelope of the VST etc you are playing - and you sometimes need to adjust these

  • @_Palatis
    @_Palatis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sensing breath is pretty difficult, probably there is a tiny fan inside the device.
    touch sensing are easy, and we use it a lot in everywhere (such as remote control for a air conditioner perhaps?)
    and the last two holes are not tilted are probably just engineers are lazy, or manufacturer cost, else there's no really reason why we cant tilt them.
    a fun device, i would want to get one.
    I really like these fun device such as otamatone.

  • @robman80808
    @robman80808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Would you recommend this or the Carry-On Digital Wind Instrument you recently reviewed? I know the Carry-On has built-in sounds and a speaker, but would you really use them instead of a MIDI-triggered sound on your phone or computer? Thanks.

  • @harkelan
    @harkelan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It look really really fun

  • @sheltonharlow
    @sheltonharlow ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched your video (wonderful, and you remind me greatly of a young lady I knew many years ago. I'm 72) and wonder if they took your review to heart, especially the recorder sound "vibrato".

  • @matthewgaines10
    @matthewgaines10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never liked the sounds of a recorder but the video popped up for TH-cam. I learned something new. A MIDI recorder.

  • @argonwheatbelly637
    @argonwheatbelly637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    All the MIDI issues can be overridden by having a fuller synth interface. And the breath sensor is slower, since there is an interpreter rather than merely a trigger sensor. You might see it with aftertouch on the keypad sensors, but it would be buried in the decay, not the attack, unless you reverse track with delay like on "Whole Lotta Love". That's mostly just tech.
    The big change would be the ability to rotate the foot for the bottom notes, maybe a key for the bell...I could see this as a fusion instrument on the order of an Eagle-styled interface.
    Still, this is not just another breath-input device. This is an augment, not a replacement. It really has potential.

  • @itme7685
    @itme7685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been waiting for a while to get mine. I’m excited.
    I think you should also try it out with other MIDI applications as well. Many synthesizers can take the breath control.

  • @TenorCantusFirmus
    @TenorCantusFirmus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it possible to switch it to recorders in F, and maybe in G too? That would be interesting.
    Also adding ancient wind instruments like cornetts and serpents, shawms, dulcians, raketts etc. would be nice, after all that's a thing which many recorder players look for too.

    • @lua-nya
      @lua-nya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My intuition tells me that's likely to come in an app update.

    • @TenorCantusFirmus
      @TenorCantusFirmus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lua-nya I hope so it is.

    • @adolforodolfo6929
      @adolforodolfo6929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it is completely possible. There are two ways to do it: the fingering is completely configurable so you can define it as you wish; there is also a "transpose" feature that allows you to move the sounded pitch up or down a semitone at a time as much as a full octave in either direction - this can be done in seconds, whereas setting up a whole new fingering will take quite a few minutes.

  • @kharmaviv
    @kharmaviv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! I've seen this before, but I was not sure of everything it could do. Even though the acoustic sound is not refined, it is nice that it can be played on its own as well as digitally. Sounds like a good price for all that it does as well. I hope they take your recommendations, Sarah. 😊🎶

  • @andrewfinley459
    @andrewfinley459 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That seems like such a cool practice and writing tool.

  • @jhhl
    @jhhl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting for mine! USA is at the end of the line.

  • @onkan123
    @onkan123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fingering is baroque.
    Does it work as a normal MIDI input device? Can I use only the dedicated app?
    I searched with re.corder. It's a crowdfunding product, isn't it?
    I Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaant it.

    • @Geab12
      @Geab12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can change fingering in the app and connect to other midi apps as well

    • @adolforodolfo6929
      @adolforodolfo6929 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 'factory default' fingering is baroque (with some alternative fingerings), but, as Geab says, the fingering is completely configurable, you don't have to stay with the baroque fingering - you can even extend the range of the instrument above and below the standard recorder range - I have done this with mine so that I have a full three and a half octaves that cover nearly all the range of a violin. You do have to have the dedicated app to configure the re.corder, but you don't have to use the app when you are using the re.corder as a midi controller, or an input to a DAW like Cakewalk.

  • @petersmith5614
    @petersmith5614 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks amazing.... i can't wait....

  • @aro4457
    @aro4457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m a Violinist who has never touched the recorder before but I wanna ask some questions
    Is it hard to get gigs as a recorder player due to the pre conceive notion that Recorder players have in the musical community as an “Beginner instrument” or is it easier due to the nature that not as many people pick up the recorder due to that preconceived notion compared to other more competitive instrument fields.
    And also, how you feel about the recorder being the beginner instrument of choice compared to other options like the piano, since the Recorder is a wind instrument and the standard alto only uses the treble clef while another instrument like the piano would teach both clefs and more reading ability and is also the standard for teaching any form of music.

    • @RolandHutchinson
      @RolandHutchinson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      BOTH clefs? You speak as if there are only two clefs! Advanced recorder players know more clefs than most pianists do.

    • @RolandHutchinson
      @RolandHutchinson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RustyBobbins Actually, each size of recorder needs to be able to play from several clefs--though admittedly one at a time, as you rightly point out.

    • @astridposey
      @astridposey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RustyBobbins Range ≠ Clefs.
      Also, there are instruments that play outside the piano's range.

    • @astridposey
      @astridposey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RustyBobbins also, the c Clefs are never used for piano. And mensural and Gregorian Clefs, nonwestern Notation, and more

  • @beth7467
    @beth7467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The acoustic sound comes across as thin (and maybe scratchy?) to me. Edited to add that the electronic options sound cool. Maybe this has lots of scope for modern music?

  • @YorozuyaNeesan2010
    @YorozuyaNeesan2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That looked super fun!

  • @shamusobi2748
    @shamusobi2748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you create you own tutorial in the app...for example, your own composition?

  • @larshansen7907
    @larshansen7907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can you recommend re.corder to practice with headphones to avoid disturbing my neighbors. Will skills gained in this way be applicable to a regular recorder?

    • @mrs.kencade7372
      @mrs.kencade7372 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was wondering the same thing.

    • @adolforodolfo6929
      @adolforodolfo6929 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrs.kencade7372 I have come to it the other way round; I have been playing the regular recorder for many many years - now I have a re.corder as well. I would say that the answer to your question is yes for some aspects of recorder playing, but no for some others. The default fingering is basically the same (although the bottom hole is not offset as it is on a conventional recorder) and you can tongue as you do on a conventional recorder, so those are two things you can definitely practise in silence. But when you are playing the re.corder digitally, as you have to if you want to listen through headphones, then there are some differences compared to a conventional recorder, basically with regard to tonguing and breath. Playing digitally, you can't produce any kind of "percussive" effects through tonguing; you just start or stop the sound, you can't alter that sound in any way by tonguing hard or soft. Breath is perhaps more important; the re.corder will not drop pitch if you blow too softly, nor will it go sharp if you blow too hard - it will always produce the same (correct) pitch, it will just be quieter or louder. This makes it easier to play in some ways, because you only have to get your fingering right to produce the right note - you don't have to change your breath force for the high and low registers. So in that respect it's not a substitute for practice on a "real" recorder. My own view is that it's not worth buying the re.corder merely as another conventional recorder that has the advantage of being mutable - it's really an electric instrument in its own right and, as such, is easily worth the asking price.