I think it started when Trump characterized mainstream media as "fake news." This threatened the propaganda machine that allowed our corrupt leaders to operate in secret without media pushback. The people with real power did not like this potential to be undermined, so they threw all their money and influence behind the democrats who were so offended by Trump's locker room talk and non-politically correct way of speaking that they would do anything to muzzle him.
@@Liberty-Vault I would spend my summers in Italy as a child to my early teens, late 60’s early 70’s. When we would get back to the states all the news was different, the stories were completely different. It continued until the 90’s but with the internet the media has got on the same page
It’s the Matriarchy’s growing influence on the left. The mommy state values the group over the individual, so the emphasis is on group cohesion over individual rights. 😢
It's been *_way_* more than "10 or 20 years." I saw this coming way back in the early 90's when "hate speech" laws were being adopted and a book like _Huckleberry Finn_ (a screed _against_ slavery and racism--by a Southerner!) was being pulled from libraries because it had the N-word in it.
The right to free speech to me is an absolute necessity for a non tyrannical standard of living. It's patently clear that the governments pretty much everywhere now KNOW this, and it's imperative for their population controlling agendas to deny us this basic but essential freedom. Regards from the UK where it's VERY much on our treacherous politician's "to do list ".
The administration then was mostly made up of people born in the 20s through 40s who actually believed in free speech. They've all died or been replaced by outright censorious Marxists.
There’s always been an authoritarian part on the far-left, but it seeped into the mainstream left over time, as the left in general became culturally dominant.
I don't agree with Vivek on many public policy issues, but I admire the way he stood up for pro-Palestinian students' right to protest on college campuses. "Bitchy" Ron DeSantis started telling a crowd at a Republican debate that he planned to crack down on these kids and Vivek, despite some boos from the crowd, insisted they had a right to protest Israel.
There’s a fuckton more going on on college campuses than just criticizing Israel, which I agree is protected speech. There’s violence,e threat of violence and open cultural invasion.
@@docsavage8640 Can't find the actual debate clip, but I remember it clearly. Search this: "Vivek Ramaswamy Slams DeSantis For Banning Pro-Palestinian Student Groups At FL Colleges". He said something similar during one of the debates. Also, maybe have some facts before you accuse someone of lying.
@@docsavage8640 it’s true. Do what @gbru says and look it up - there’s an exact clip with that title. Yes, Vivek also tows the line (extremely frustrating) but at least he said it.
According to TH-cam, there have been 8 comments to this discussion. For some reason, I imagine related to the first amendment, I can only see 3 comments.
With the current craze of Hollywood doing remakes, I’ve long had this thought of how hilarious it would it be if they remade the People vs. Larry Flint but made the pro-censorship people out to be the good guys. There are definitely some clear commonalities between Larry Flynt and Trump. There’s a vulgar rich buffoon archetype. Rodney Dangerfield in “Back to School” is another great example. Hollywood should remake that one too 😂😂😂
And here in lies the problem. It only matters now that this affects him directly. Not all the other unconstitutional, criminal and just plain ignorant agenda items that have stepped their way to 1A and 2A. And he probably still is against 2A. The package is a whole.
I just learned today that there are more white Zionist Christians living in Israel than all the Jews in the world combined. I also learned about Palestinian and Arab Jews who are not wanted in their country (Israel) because they are not white. Crazy world.
The Biden/Harris administration created the Disinformation Governance Board. Do some research. Their administration also instructed Facebook to censor and block posts about COVID vaccine hesitancy and anything related to suspicion of the 2020 election results. Remember the 2016 movement "not my President" I don't remember any censoring of that.
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When do you think the left shifted away from supporting free speech?
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When left became convinced half the nation was rooting for tyranny they answered with their own form of tyranny.
(indoctrinated by popular propaganda)
It started with Trump Derangement Syndrome
I think it started when Trump characterized mainstream media as "fake news." This threatened the propaganda machine that allowed our corrupt leaders to operate in secret without media pushback. The people with real power did not like this potential to be undermined, so they threw all their money and influence behind the democrats who were so offended by Trump's locker room talk and non-politically correct way of speaking that they would do anything to muzzle him.
@@Liberty-Vault I would spend my summers in Italy as a child to my early teens, late 60’s early 70’s. When we would get back to the states all the news was different, the stories were completely different. It continued until the 90’s but with the internet the media has got on the same page
It’s the Matriarchy’s growing influence on the left. The mommy state values the group over the individual, so the emphasis is on group cohesion over individual rights. 😢
Thank you Matt Taibbi for the courage to stand up & Speak Truth
Vivek & Matt are A team material 👍
Cheney supporting and being accepted with open arms by Harris is all we need to know
Harris blew an easy opportunity to display leadership and principles by not rejecting the Cheney endorsement. Having him on her side is a bad look.
@@Daniel-yl5jl1bi6q He and she are ideologically linked. The other stuff is window dressing.
The really sad thing is trump is the same. They are all the same
@@50_Pence Yes, generally all people are the same, weak, easy to influence. But on occasion there is a lion, an alpha
@@50_Pence the level of hate for him and the extremes that are being taken to stop him is all I need to know on that point
It's been *_way_* more than "10 or 20 years." I saw this coming way back in the early 90's when "hate speech" laws were being adopted and a book like _Huckleberry Finn_ (a screed _against_ slavery and racism--by a Southerner!) was being pulled from libraries because it had the N-word in it.
The right to free speech to me is an absolute necessity for a non tyrannical standard of living. It's patently clear that the governments pretty much everywhere now KNOW this, and it's imperative for their population controlling agendas to deny us this basic but essential freedom. Regards from the UK where it's VERY much on our treacherous politician's "to do list ".
strange day have found us ✌️💚
At least Jim got his kicks in before the whole sh!thouse went up in flames!
It’s not a new phenomenon. This stuff was big on campus in the 1990s. It’s just that school administrators weren’t enforcing it yet.
The administration then was mostly made up of people born in the 20s through 40s who actually believed in free speech. They've all died or been replaced by outright censorious Marxists.
There’s always been an authoritarian part on the far-left, but it seeped into the mainstream left over time, as the left in general became culturally dominant.
Civil rights act of 1991 made it legal to sue for emotional damage, this greatly chilled free speech
our founding fathers made the first amendment FIRST for a good reason!!
Second in the supportive role
"I can't sell you a medicine bottle and say it's not poison when it is."
...Unless your name is Anthony Fauci.
When the bat cracks the baseball and at that moment you know it's going over the fence - your comment connects.
It does my heart good to see such a prominent Republican pointing out where his party falls short when it comes to advocating for free speech.
Nobody is perfect on this, and conservatives outside the US are even worse!
Google and TH-cam like to silence opinions as well
So growing up mentally divided by these criminals games got it. Brainwashing is a form of assault this means we can defend ourselves from this.
We could always defend ourselves against this. In any way necessary
Sometime during the 90’s Democrats figured out that Wall Street pays better.
I don't agree with Vivek on many public policy issues, but I admire the way he stood up for pro-Palestinian students' right to protest on college campuses. "Bitchy" Ron DeSantis started telling a crowd at a Republican debate that he planned to crack down on these kids and Vivek, despite some boos from the crowd, insisted they had a right to protest Israel.
Cool story, bro. Didn't happen that way at all. Stop lying.
There’s a fuckton more going on on college campuses than just criticizing Israel, which I agree is protected speech. There’s violence,e threat of violence and open cultural invasion.
@@docsavage8640 Can't find the actual debate clip, but I remember it clearly. Search this: "Vivek Ramaswamy Slams DeSantis For Banning Pro-Palestinian Student Groups At FL Colleges". He said something similar during one of the debates.
Also, maybe have some facts before you accuse someone of lying.
@@docsavage8640 it’s true. Do what @gbru says and look it up - there’s an exact clip with that title. Yes, Vivek also tows the line (extremely frustrating) but at least he said it.
Standing up for heinous views like Hamas is free speech.
According to TH-cam, there have been 8 comments to this discussion. For some reason, I imagine related to the first amendment, I can only see 3 comments.
Go to Newest First.
According to TH-cam I have replied.
@@GeorgePapadopolous Yes, that did it. Now shows 11 and I see 11! 👍
@ktall6749 Now, go back to Top and see what type of posts are missing.
Incorrect, it happened long ago
Happened at least by the time Obama was elected and the media was outright lying for him and hiding his past.
Did we ever have it or are we just finding it out now
@@50_Pence We did prior to 1913
@@whousa642 ha
@@50_Pence Wilson started it all
With the current craze of Hollywood doing remakes, I’ve long had this thought of how hilarious it would it be if they remade the People vs. Larry Flint but made the pro-censorship people out to be the good guys. There are definitely some clear commonalities between Larry Flynt and Trump. There’s a vulgar rich buffoon archetype. Rodney Dangerfield in “Back to School” is another great example. Hollywood should remake that one too 😂😂😂
Hollywood will never cast their own side as villains.
@@docsavage8640 Dallas Buyers Club showed Fauci for the crook he is
Vivek doing a Tucker Carlson Style open mouth listening
And here in lies the problem. It only matters now that this affects him directly. Not all the other unconstitutional, criminal and just plain ignorant agenda items that have stepped their way to 1A and 2A. And he probably still is against 2A. The package is a whole.
That comment is so unclear. I have no idea what you mean to say.
@@juliagoodfellow-so4jc and you have the right to vote?
Free speech on *all topics* except when it comes to Israel’s policies.. it’s such a glaring contradiction
I just learned today that there are more white Zionist Christians living in Israel than all the Jews in the world combined. I also learned about Palestinian and Arab Jews who are not wanted in their country (Israel) because they are not white. Crazy world.
My previous comment will be hidden or removed.
Tell us again how Trump tried to have Twitter remove mean comments about him.
Maplethorpe made shitty art….he had no talent.
The right is always the first to censor, and always the only side to use government power to do so.
LMFAO examples?
Rip Van Winkle just woke up. Take a look around.
Lol wow
The Biden/Harris administration created the Disinformation Governance Board. Do some research. Their administration also instructed Facebook to censor and block posts about COVID vaccine hesitancy and anything related to suspicion of the 2020 election results. Remember the 2016 movement "not my President" I don't remember any censoring of that.
I see you are a true disciple of Goebbels.
It’s possible my sarcasm meter is off. If you meant exactly the opposite of what you said, disregard.