1:37 You actually don't pay the full 6 here because Solarmon stops reduction of "Play Costs". Options don't use "Play Costs" they are being "Used" and only have a "Cost". The best way to see this example is to grab any option card and any Digimon Card then look at the top left Bubble, the Option does not say "Play Cost" only "Cost".
G1 Jesmon player should have attacked the unsuspended Shoutmon X5 (Saviorhuck allows him to do so). It was one less body on the board to worry about later.
I believe Solarmon does not actually prevent the cost reduction of Crimson Blaze since options don't have a play cost, they just have a cost. I think it's frankly a pretty ridiculous ruling, but it's going to come up a lot in this set
Bro what are you even smoking? The number in the corner is the play cost. Any time a card leaves your hand or trash to become active in the battle area aside from digivolving is considered being played, regardless of play cost. There is no "use" there is only "play". Solarmon prevents the cost reduction.
@@KaitoverMoon If you look at literally any option it doesn't say play cost, it just says cost in the corner. Crimson Blaze itself also specifically says reduce memory cost, not reduce play cost. I don't make the rules for this game and I wish Psychemon/Solarmon stopped the cost reduction but they don't
@@TechnicalHiccup Dude, memory cost for playing a card IS a play cost lmao. We can't argue semantics when the logical solutions are so blatantly obvious.
crimson blaze can reduce cost although have solarmon in field because option is cost and digimon is playcost so solarmon just "can't reduce playcost" so you can reduce cost of option
I wanted to point out the same^^. You can even see in the upper left corner on an option card that it says "cost" not " play cost" as it is the case for digimon. So u could have played the blaze for 2 memory ^^. Its an absolutley must have for this set in red . GL and keep going.
I really feel like Save is an effect that’s detrimental to the game. Resource management is one of the core tenants of the game and while there are some ways to play around the effect, being able to recycle assets so easily takes a lot away from the game.
I think the bigger issue is how Save is designed to overlay with DigiXros. Play costs are just a bit too low after a full DigiXros, and Save could be utilized mechanically in a variety of other interesting ways. Overall, the Digimon Card Game is not as restricted by card resources as it is on Memory, and all cost reduction effects really need to be looked at with maximum scrutiny. It just seems like DigiXros with XrosHeart either slipped through or Bandai intentionally skewed in a more powerful direction. Unfortunately 1 memory difference in play cost is 1 attacking Shoutmon X4 or 3 attacking X4 on the standard 3-memory turn and there's no in between.
@@moxmoonstone I think we’re trying to say the same thing here. Memory IS a resource, just like cards in hand/deck/trash. DigiXros isn’t inheritly broken because you still have to plan/manage the resources to reduce your costs. It’s Save that makes it too easy. Deleting becoming less meaningful due to Save is the real issue since that’s what can break DigiXros into too easy territory.
5:04 did jesmon player choose To block with ciel and trashed the ciel? Then seconds later he returned it to field from trash to trash the blanc then blocking again with ciel? Also game 1 you keep mentioning DP boost but non of the sistermon gain DP only the huckmon and royal knights do off off the ciel from Bt 6
Yeah we were just playtesting and decided it was a better play to block with blanc so we switched it and jesmon x antibody gives all your digimon +2kdp till the end of opp turn
Solarmon reads players can't reduce play costs and options have play cost like Digimon have . Specifically crimson blaze reads "reduce the cost of this card" but solarmon prevents that just like reducing Digimon play cost
@@chrisbuku4296 Options don't meet the definition of play in this game which is place onto battle area except for the cards with delay. If you look at cards like Beelstarmon and Mimi they specifically state "use" when referencing options.
@@Jimmy-ly6jd I agree with this statement! However when you "use" an option you still pay the required play cost. That's why solarmon affects crimson blaze.
@@chrisbuku4296 so let me try wording it different. cards that reduce play cost actually say “play cost” like the aforementioned beelstarmon. There isn’t a play cost reduction on crimson play, just a memory cost reduction. The wording is what’s important here.
@@chrisbuku4296 Option cards do not have play costs. Look at the Top left of any Option card. It says Cost instead of Play Cost. There is a big difference between cost and play cost. Crimson Blaze also says: Reduce cost while cards like DeathXmon specifically mention: reduce play cost. So No, Solarmons effect does not Trigger, you can reduce Crimson Blaze cost.
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Xros Heart:
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2 Tai Kamiya BT1-085
4 Pickmons BT10-003
4 Shoutmon BT10-008
4 Shoutmon X4 BT10-009
3 Shoutmon X5 BT10-013
4 Starmons BT10-029
4 Dorulumon BT10-034
4 Ballistamon BT10-049
3 Sparrowmon BT10-060
4 Taiki Kudo BT10-087
4 Akari Hinomoto BT10-089
3 Zenjiro Tsurugi BT10-090
2 Crimson Blaze BT8-097
2 Tai Kamiya & Kari Kamiya BT9-084
3 Sunrise Buster BT9-099
1 DeathXmon BT9-112
3 Fire Ball EX2-067
Jesmon:
3 Jesmon (X Antibody) BT10-016
2 Sistermon Ciel BT10-085
4 Huckmon BT6-009
4 BaoHuckmon BT6-011
1 SaviorHuckmon BT6-015
3 Sistermon Blanc BT6-082
2 Sistermon Ciel BT6-084
4 Huckmon BT7-009
1 Sistermon Blanc (Awakened) BT7-082
4 Gurimon BT8-001
2 Kimeramon BT8-084
2 Red Memory Boost! P-035
3 Solarmon ST12-03
4 BaoHuckmon ST12-06
4 SaviorHuckmon ST12-08
4 Jesmon ST12-10
2 Sistermon Blanc ST12-12
1 Sistermon Ciel ST12-13
4 From Master to Disciple ST12-15
1:37 You actually don't pay the full 6 here because Solarmon stops reduction of "Play Costs". Options don't use "Play Costs" they are being "Used" and only have a "Cost". The best way to see this example is to grab any option card and any Digimon Card then look at the top left Bubble, the Option does not say "Play Cost" only "Cost".
G1 Jesmon player should have attacked the unsuspended Shoutmon X5 (Saviorhuck allows him to do so). It was one less body on the board to worry about later.
Noticed him bottom decking after using From Master to Disciple it's actually supposed to trash the remaining cards.
I believe Solarmon does not actually prevent the cost reduction of Crimson Blaze since options don't have a play cost, they just have a cost. I think it's frankly a pretty ridiculous ruling, but it's going to come up a lot in this set
I’m surprised with primitive being a well established player didn’t know the rule of option cards being “used” and not “played”.
Bro what are you even smoking? The number in the corner is the play cost. Any time a card leaves your hand or trash to become active in the battle area aside from digivolving is considered being played, regardless of play cost. There is no "use" there is only "play". Solarmon prevents the cost reduction.
@@KaitoverMoon If you look at literally any option it doesn't say play cost, it just says cost in the corner. Crimson Blaze itself also specifically says reduce memory cost, not reduce play cost. I don't make the rules for this game and I wish Psychemon/Solarmon stopped the cost reduction but they don't
@@TechnicalHiccup Dude, memory cost for playing a card IS a play cost lmao. We can't argue semantics when the logical solutions are so blatantly obvious.
@@KaitoverMoon you’re wrong. Bandai has already clarified this. Options are not played but used.
crimson blaze can reduce cost although have solarmon in field because option is cost and digimon is playcost so solarmon just "can't reduce playcost" so you can reduce cost of option
Where do I get those mats?
options are not affected by solarmon. his abillity prevents play cost reduction, options are used not played.
I wanted to point out the same^^. You can even see in the upper left corner on an option card that it says "cost" not " play cost" as it is the case for digimon. So u could have played the blaze for 2 memory ^^. Its an absolutley must have for this set in red . GL and keep going.
3:28 why didnt he swing into x5 and pop balista with bao
I really feel like Save is an effect that’s detrimental to the game. Resource management is one of the core tenants of the game and while there are some ways to play around the effect, being able to recycle assets so easily takes a lot away from the game.
I think the bigger issue is how Save is designed to overlay with DigiXros. Play costs are just a bit too low after a full DigiXros, and Save could be utilized mechanically in a variety of other interesting ways. Overall, the Digimon Card Game is not as restricted by card resources as it is on Memory, and all cost reduction effects really need to be looked at with maximum scrutiny. It just seems like DigiXros with XrosHeart either slipped through or Bandai intentionally skewed in a more powerful direction. Unfortunately 1 memory difference in play cost is 1 attacking Shoutmon X4 or 3 attacking X4 on the standard 3-memory turn and there's no in between.
@@moxmoonstone I think we’re trying to say the same thing here. Memory IS a resource, just like cards in hand/deck/trash. DigiXros isn’t inheritly broken because you still have to plan/manage the resources to reduce your costs. It’s Save that makes it too easy. Deleting becoming less meaningful due to Save is the real issue since that’s what can break DigiXros into too easy territory.
The Sistermon Blanc could have prevented the Crimson Blaze from deleting everything at 1:37 because of Decoy.
Seeing all those tamers just makes me wish the opponent has deathxmon. Kekw
Going that wide for the Jesmon player game 1 was pretty yikes
I think with Master to Disciple you have to trash the other two cards
5:04 did jesmon player choose To block with ciel and trashed the ciel? Then seconds later he returned it to field from trash to trash the blanc then blocking again with ciel? Also game 1 you keep mentioning DP boost but non of the sistermon gain DP only the huckmon and royal knights do off off the ciel from Bt 6
Yeah we were just playtesting and decided it was a better play to block with blanc so we switched it and jesmon x antibody gives all your digimon +2kdp till the end of opp turn
Love it. Blue flare next?
The Jesmon player could have saved one of there red Digimon the 1st time you crimson blaze because of decoy.
Jesmon list plz?
Lol so jesmon player gotta be new he missed decoy to protect either solarmon or huckmon and didn't trash for desciple.
Bro everybody don’t read cards man
to be fair yugioh players dont read shit
BloomLord gameplay next please!!
Solarmon doesn’t stop crimson blaze. You don’t “play” options, only digimon. You “use” them so it bypasses solarmon
Solarmon reads players can't reduce play costs and options have play cost like Digimon have . Specifically crimson blaze reads "reduce the cost of this card" but solarmon prevents that just like reducing Digimon play cost
@@chrisbuku4296 Options don't meet the definition of play in this game which is place onto battle area except for the cards with delay. If you look at cards like Beelstarmon and Mimi they specifically state "use" when referencing options.
@@Jimmy-ly6jd I agree with this statement! However when you "use" an option you still pay the required play cost. That's why solarmon affects crimson blaze.
@@chrisbuku4296 so let me try wording it different. cards that reduce play cost actually say “play cost” like the aforementioned beelstarmon. There isn’t a play cost reduction on crimson play, just a memory cost reduction. The wording is what’s important here.
@@chrisbuku4296 Option cards do not have play costs. Look at the Top left of any Option card. It says Cost instead of Play Cost. There is a big difference between cost and play cost. Crimson Blaze also says: Reduce cost while cards like DeathXmon specifically mention: reduce play cost. So No, Solarmons effect does not Trigger, you can reduce Crimson Blaze cost.
Searcher Huckmon is not actually a rookie
i hate the xros heart deck