Bought the ct 26 many years ago with the reusable bag and realize now it's the best woodworking purchase I ever made. Super dependable, keeps dust out of my clients' homes and more importantly out of my lungs.
Couldn't agree more. I've got two CT 26 extractors and am very close to buying a third and final one. I will have of them topped with the Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy for capturing all of the dust and chips. This combination is amazing.
@@POLPO_WOOD The Oneida catches almost all of the dust. The little bit that gets by has to go somewhere, that is what the bag is for. Since so little gets to the bag they last an extremely long time.
I've just started my Festool collection, and I went with the TS55 + the midi. 100% agree that the dust extraction makes the brand. I've bought dust adaptors for my other brand tools, and the extractor makes me love those more too.
My first Festool product was the TS 75 Track saw 17 years ago. I recommend a track saw and track as the number 1 tool. Second tool would be a sander along with the number three tool dust extractor. Kapex could easily be top three in place of the sander.
I wasn’t sold on getting a dust extractor until I bought one. My mentor kept bugging me to get one, I got the CT26 and coupled it with a Mullet cyclone. Should’ve done it sooner. Not long after I saved up for the domino. Haven’t used it a whole lot with the things I’ve been doing but at no point did I ever think about getting rid of it. I always knew I’d be making furniture again. I had plans for sander or sanders, ts75 and the router system. Fell on some hard times and hopefully better times are coming. I still have my eyes on more festool
Great advice Jason. When I first got into woodworking, I found a small woodworking shop an hour away that I visited. They also teach woodworking. So they had tools and experience to share with me. They also had a very nice Festool display. I was able to try some tools, and even though I did not buy any Festool at that time, it helped me decide to buy Festool tools and I’ve never regretted it.
I recently purchased a CT 26 E to replace the huge Craftsman vacuum I used for 20 years. My shop is only 240 square feet, so space is at a premium. The CT takes up a lot less space, the hose is amazing and I purchased the Bluetooth module, which I love. I also got the floor cleaning kit and the foam filter in case I need to use it as a wet vacuum. I’m looking at one of the routers for my next Festool. Great video. Thanks!
I got the hkc first. That thing is still in its own class. Two days ago I just got “ANOTHER” 75” track. Everything else in between. In my van I have a 76” deep drawer that cantilevers out of the back doors 56” Inside that, but not extending past, I have 60” linear slides. On the slides is the csc sys 50. So you fold the barn doors all the way against the van and there levitates the tablesaw 😊
I’m just starting my Festool journey. Agree with your list. I started with MIDI, TS55 and Domino. Shortly after got ETS EC150/5 and OF1010. Thinking next purchase is DTS400 then Carvex. Absolutely love having every tool hook into the same power cord and vacuum hose
Likewise, my first Festool,purchase was into the Festool System. I first saw the Festool System at a woodworking tool show a Japan Woodworker, in Alameda CA, one of Festool’s first dealers on the West Coast. There I met Festool America’s then CEO Christian, and purchased the MFT 800 table, CT22 and a TS55. I then added a couple of,Festool,sanders and the OF1010 router to give me a basic job kit, I was using on site doing boat interior repair/restoration work. The whole package was very portable and easy to set up on site at boat yards. Accuracy and clean cuts was very important to the fine joinery I was doing. Cheers
Thank you sooo much for this video. My first Festool was the TS 55. Then I bought the domino 500 and a Festool hose for my shop vacuum. I have been looking at a Festool sanders, my dewalt is not cutting it. I understand I can’t get a sander without dust collection and I’m saving for both and this video has reassured my decision.
I remember being frustrated by simple things like building boxes and drawer boxes when I first got started (pocket screws slipping just a tad or trying to assemble something and just having something be a tad off) and then I got a Domino. I made one drawer box with it (using the built in guides) and the thing was dead flat/aligned all the way around. I swore I'd never *not* use the Domino on anything that required something to be aligned again. And totally agree on the sander and the dust extractor. I have the CT 26 and I have the 5" sander mainly because I had a ton of 5" media to use and the 5" sander can use 6" sanding pads with the 6" interface pad.
I have found the Festool track saw critical when you don’t have access to a table saw. My first Festool tool I bought was a 6” sander and dust collection. I built and entire sailboat with it and have been using it six years later. Incredible tool! I have the domino 500 and find myself using the largest size 90% of the time and wish I could go bigger. Next Festool purchase will be the 700.
Great list! I will say for most beginners the sander and dust extractor are usually combo buys, but even at the high price it has been my best quality of life upgrade with the amount of sanding that I do. Also for me the domino and track saw are close for me but for a beginner the domino does help so much with alignment it’s tough to beat.
Hi, I really enjoy your channel. Amazingly, I bought the exact same 3 Festool tools this past weekend at Eagle Tools in L.A. I also bought a TSC 55 KEB from Eagle and have not used it yet. I’m 62 and am getting ready to retire from sales. I’m setting up a small shop to start building cabinets and furniture. A router and miter saw and I’ll be ready for anything! Can’t wait to get started! Soon! Keep up the good work! Tim
Before I get to my own list, you nailed in the domino section with some people wanting the benefits without all the work of hand tooling. For me, the woodworking aspect is fun and I enjoy the process, but really it's still just a means to an end, that end being the project itself, not the process of getting there. I'm even adding a small CNC to my shop to automate some of the things that take up my time in the shop. My personal list: 1. Yep, agree completely. Dust extractor. Ideally purchased with another tool to get the benefits of both, but if one at a time is the only path, still a dust extractor. It can be used with any tool with the right adapter, and the festool extractors are amazing. I went with the CT Midi I along with the bluetooth remote and absolutely love it. I also bought the cleaning kit with the 36mm hose. But yeah, you nailed it with putting the extractor at #1. 2. Yep. The same sander you showed, the ETS EC 150/5. It's a workhorse. It can be pretty aggressive yet still excellent for fine finish sanding as long as you're cautious and aware of how aggressive it can be. Along with all the other reasons you mentioned as well. 3. This is where I differ from your list; for me it's a tracksaw. I went with the TS 55 FEQ with 55" track and also bought a 32" track. No regrets there. It's an amazing tool. I use my tablesaw far less now that I have my tracksaw. Just for a bit more insight, I'll give my #4 and #5 as well, but neither of them are festool, but still work well within the festool system. 4. A Dowelmax. Domino accuracy, ease of use and joint strength, just a bit slower (though not by a ton), far cheaper than a domino yet still not a cheap tool. Having my Dowelmax has been the only thing preventing me from getting a domino. It's amazing. Jessem makes a nice doweling jig too, but I still chose the Dowelmax for the integrated clamping and because it's a bit easier and more intuitive to use. 5. A Parf Guide MK II. As amazing as the festool MFT is, I just felt that this was one of those instances where I could build better than what is offered for sale, and the Parf Guide has helped me achieve that. I've made several tops with it in different sizes so it's effectively paid for itself. I actually thought an MFT would be in your list. Anyhow, excellent video to open up a worthwhile discussion Mr. Bent! Well done.
The first Festool tool I bought was the dust extractor, not because I was looking to get into Festool, but because I was looking for a great dust extractor. The second one was the 150mm ETS EC 150/5 sander. It took me a while to make the decision because of the price, but once I used it for the first time, I was amazed at what an upgrade it was on my Dewalt sander.
I've been having various friends and relatives suggest I try supplementing my pension by restoring and refurbishing old furniture - there are numerous YT videos by folk who do it here in UK. They say how I have made stuff and how I have plenty of tools and a decent sized (for UK London) workshop. But... my tools are based on gutting and refitting our current house so more about construction than furniture. I'd have to invest in at least M-Class dust extraction, air filtration, suitable tools, especially sanders. In younger days, I wouldn't have paid so much attention to dust. Now, I'm at least as concerned for dust in my clothes affecting our grandchildren and very impressed with the change of worldviews about dust control compared with older days. That said, I did, recently sand down and re-finish (with boiled linseed oil) a wooden high chair for our granddaughter - worked out great and daughter now asking for more furniture jobs as well as wardrobes
My first Festool tool was a HK55 with a 1400 rail. Because I needed a circular saw. Then I needed a new coordless drill/screwdriver, so I bought the PDC/4 (I think, no longer sold). At this time, I was hooked because of the precision of what I could do with these tools. So since then, I've added the CTM 26 (named slightly different in Europe) bought second hand, 4 other drills/screwdrivers, long reach sander, bluetooth radio, vecturo, jigsaw, angle grinder, a 2700 guide rail and a kapex 120. For the last couple of weeks, I have been wondering if I should get a ETS EC 150/5, actually, so your video came at a good time :) I will buy one this week. My approach to buying Festool has been to buy the tools as I needed to use something. It's been a while since I did any real sanding (because I've been building on the house itself, not things for it), but now I'll need to do some, so it's time for the next tool. I have two major reasons for buying Festool, and the dust extraction is one of these. The other is that the tools make it easier to do precision work for me as a hobbyist. I know they are expensive, but I also have a minor reason of just liking nice tools :)
I bought a dust extractor recently and so glad I did. Much quieter than my shop vac and works great. I love the auto mode so when you plug something into it and turn it on the dust collector turns on and off automatically as you turn your tool on and off.
I bought the 3 items you have reviewed in the same order last month except I got the 26 extractor. These were my first Festool purchases. The dust extractor is amazing. It is so nimble and easy to move around and use. It easily supplements my 4” collection on the table saw base by taking away the dust from the blade guard. And unlike most shop vacs, it is extremely nimble to move around and connect to my hand tools. I hardly ever used my “shop vac” because it was so clumsy. Got the smaller sander because most all my work is on small delicate projects and a 5” is more suitable. The Domino I haven’t used yet but am really excited about putting it to work. I must be a genius!😂. With only a couple years of experience, I got the same Festool tools a pro is recommending. Maybe I should start my own TH-cam channel.
Excellent list, no notes. I got an ETS EC 125 to start, and it was like a religious awakening when I used it, I didn't know sanders could be SO GOOD. I used a tiny Shop Vac with it and the dust collection was excellent. My fiance ended up buying a CT 15 and omg I had the same mind-blowing experience all over again. The dust extractor is the best vacuum I have ever used, and easily best dust extractor for woodworking. I use it for everything now, just general cleanup in my house. It's that good. The sander with the dust extractor is so good, I can sand inside my house without a mask. It is crazy how good it is.
As a professional woodworker of 25 years, and a heavy user of Festool (pretty much everything they’ve made) for 21 (and now also Mafell) and a bit of a tool nut (very best and most appropriate tool for each task) I agree with you 100%…. And really well done for explaining your reasons so well, spot on…. Great watch, subscribed 👍
While I have extreme lust for a domino my first festool purchase back in May was the Midi dust extractor. No regrets! Sanding and my tracksaw are practically dust free now.
We bought a CT 48 AC extractor, a TS FEQ track saw, and an OF 1400 router as our first 3 Festool products. We have a Dowelmax kit for loosish M and T's. Thanks
I compleatly agree! No. 1: dustextraxtor. No. 2: sander 150/5. No. 3 for me is the ts keb 55. Then no. 4 is the domino. Thanks for all the great videos you make! Kind regards Troels form Denmark
My first Festool was TSV 60 KEB-F-PLUS-FS. Why I have a shop full of thick hardwood slabs and this gave me the depth and the power that only comes in this corded option. I my next purchase will be the dust collector for sure vs my shop vac and it will be Bluetooth. My third not sure I may go for the domino but likely the 700 though right now I have a Grizzly tenon jig I use with my cabinet saw and a Grizzly floor standing mortise machine both of which though slow work great and I’m not into volume but one of a kind unique pieces. So maybe I’ll go with a hand sander you made a nice argument in the video.
Very interesting to view your Festool choices and to hear your reasoning - perfectly valid. I started my up market tool collection by buying a Mirka Sander and Extractor, a decision over which I have no regrets, this was followed by my first Festool purchase, the Domino 500. So it appears I followed your logic if not by brand and it has worked for me. Some years after the impressive Domino came a TS55 track saw and shortly afterwards a fully equipped MFT, a really useful purchase to make full use of the Domino and TS55. Now having got hooked on Festool I went on to purchase a KS60 mitre saw with a dedicated small Festool dust extractor - the extractor has not performed well as it is probably not adequate. My final purchase to date was a router EBQ1400 which in truth I have yet to fully exploit. All great tools that inspire confidence and give great results.
I agree. I purchased the 26 and love it. With it I purchased the 125 sander and have been happy with it for what I do. Will buy the rotex at some point. Domino 500 is game changer, completely agree. If you did a top 5, I would add the track saw and LR 32 router set up. Well done and I will try not to covet your tool selection.
Similar to the Planex 2 - people give me shit saying, “oh that’s for people who aren’t good at drywall” EXACTLY, I’m not great at drywall and while I’m improving, I can always get a phenomenal, defect-free result, with minimal dust, in a fraction of the time. More importantly it completely changes remodeling work.
I went with the dust extraxctor, sander and track saw first. I don't have a Domino yet, but that's probably my next purchase. Totally agree that the dust extractor is the single most critical piece of the system.
I stayed away from Festool for a long time (due to cost) but finally broke down and got a 6" sander and a CT22 dust extractor. The difference from my other sanding setups was amazing. After that a TS55, their mid size router, a Rotex, ...
All great points. And after owning several Festool products... I'd have to agree. My first Festool was the Domino DF500. I was sure it was going to be my ONLY Festool. Boy was I wrong. My second tool was getting a sander and the CT26. Very happy with my CT26. I don't regret buying the sander... but I did get the Rotex 90. My intent was to use if for furniture restoration. And it is amazing for that. However your recommendation is a better starter sander. The sander is what sold my husband on the Festool system. He was amazed at the dust collection. I then added the TSC 55 track saw, another sander, the extractor accessory kit, MFT/3 table, the OF1400 router, LR32 system and then most recently I just got the Kapex. The only regret I've had is not getting them sooner.
Great video, Jason! I finished a kitchen table refinish project a few months back and am still cleaning up the dust! After that project, I KNEW I needed dust collection, which was my attraction to the Festool system. Yes, my HEALTH is IMPORTANT! When choosing my dust collection system, I opted for the CT26 due to its size and the need for a HEPA filter for a cleanup in my mother's attic. I needed something that could fit up through the attic access. Here's a tip I learned: if you're considering a larger capacity but not ready to invest in the CT36 or CT48, you can get that capacity by purchasing the CT36 or CT48 base and fitting the CT26 on it. It's a cost-effective solution! According to a Festool rep, the CT26 has the same motor as the CT36/CT48. So my top three Festool Tools are: CT26 ETS EC 150/5 EQ-Plus TS60 with FS1400/2-LR32 I opted for the Jessem Master Doweling Kit due to budget and I will say the Domino is STILL on my list due to the dust created by the doweling jig!
Knocked these out before the end of the video, so as to not be biased by your choices. My picks: 1) Dust extractor; 2 6” dia. Orbital sander; and 3) Domino - 700, since I make larger projects.
I'm just a hobbyist that occasionally expands out into custom/paid work. 1. Festool ETS EC 125/3. I updated the pad to the 150 to save a little money rather than just buy the 150. 2. CT 15. I never realized how important a dedicated dust extractor would be when sanding. 3. DF500 Domino. Did I need it? Absolutely not. However, as a mostly hobbyist, time is limited in my shop due to having a young family and wanting to stay engaged as a father/husband. I found that the time I save using the Domino pays for itself and more.
1) Dust extractor. The Midi works well for me. 2) Rotex RO-90. I get a lot of work restoring front doors and this tool's versatility and compact sanding head are perfect for this work. 3) ETS-125. The 2mm stroke leaves a very fine finish and it is Festool's cheapest sander. The difference between a shop vac with hepa filter and My CT-Midi is night and day. I would never go back.
My kids bought me the TS55 track saw for Christmas so I bought the CT26 and an extra track and the connectors. I have a super small work area so I’m looking at the MFT next so I can get square cuts. Then the sander 😊
Basically agree. Dust extraction is the key reason I buy Festool. The health benefits make it a no brainer (not to mention that good dust extraction often makes for much better tool performance, particularly in sanding). I already had a Fein dust extractor so- here are my choices. First is the exact sander - EQ/150-5- that you recommended. Second choice is a Festool router. If you rout much MDF, I'd make this number one. Lastly (not that I own one) is the sliding miter saw. I'm curious whether you would replace the Fein with a Festool dust extractor in my position. Thanks for the great content.
My first Festool acquisition was the pendulum jigsaw back in 2008. I bought it specifically to cut some 8/4 Red Oak for a coffee table and it put my old Craftsman jigsaw to shame. Recently I picked up the TS-55. Saving up for the CT Midi or the CT-26 next.
I don’t have any Festool products, but I would like to get some in the future. So thanks for the video. When I started watching the video, I was guessing you were going to suggest the dust extractor as your #1 choice. I think you are right. Every shop needs a dust extractor, and all Festool products work with them. Plus you can use it with all your other tools even if they aren’t Festool. 😁👍
I can tell you that I am still a beginner, and a hobbyist at that. the domino was a way to make joinery without the (or at least less) mistakes. you could argue that things like the Dowelmax are just as good, and that is valid... but for me the Domino is just easier. That was my first Festool Purchase. My second (and Third) was the MFT/3 and track saw. I went that route over a table saw because I need to be able to store it when not is use. there are trade offs for sure. and just for reference, I am making things in plywood and hardwood so if you are thinking about that setup but don't want to be limited to only sheet goods it works great for dimensional lumber using some parallel guides.
These were my first three Festool orders (six items): 1+2 Cordless drill (T18+3 E with batteries) + Work lamp (KAL II) 3+4 Dust extractor (CT 26) + Domino joiner (DF500) + Domino systainer 5 Cordless table saw (CSC SYS 50 with batteries and stand)
I purchased the CT36E dust extractor with the ETS EC 150/3 sander first and then the Domino 500. I am considering a track saw as my next Festool addition. Great comments and it made sense to me to buy them in this order as well. Totally recommend staring with dust collection and sanding. The Festool sander is a joy to use.
The CT 26e and ETS EC150/5 were my first Festool purchases for controlling the dust. After using it I was amazed at how good the dust extraction is. I added the Bluetooth module later. The quality of the tools are great and a joy to use for me.
My 1st Festool was a CT15. Then I went with your recomendation of the ETS150/5 for my 2 nd purchase. Not sure what my 3 rd purchase will be. Maybe the domino or another dust collector. Love how much quieter my CT15 compaired to my old Craftsman is.
I agree with you two of them. I too have the CT midi and I love it. That is basically the basic of all festool machines. I agree with you on the Domino 500. I have the 700 but I rarely use it. The 500 is usually the go to tool in my shop for most projects. The last one I think should really be the TS 55 track saw and at least one of the tracks however I have 2 for breaking down 4x8 sheets of birch or maple. I hated using Mt old Dewalt track saw cause wood chip in every direction in my shop and the track never stayed in place. I absolutely love the TS 55. For those main reasons. Definitely a must have for any shop.
I’m definitely in the buy once/cry once stage in my life. Watching your videos have ramped up my Festool desire. Got the CT MIDI, ETS EC150/5 sander, Domino DF500, plus the Edge Router, TSV 60 (the scoring feature leaves such a holy shit cut), CXS 18, and Jigsaw. I appreciate ecosystems that work well. I have an Apple ecosystem and now a Festool ecosystem. The dust collection alone has made this $5k+ purchase worth every penny. I know it’s not for everyone but when I’m working, it’s such a pleasure now. Goodbye Ryobi! It’s been fun, even if frustrating at times! Thanks Jason!!
Is the OF 1010 Edge Guide supposed to fit in the systainer with my Edge Router? I can’t figure out how. Festool needs videos on storing various accessories in sustainers with the relevant tools.
When I decided to drink the green koolaid, here is my order 1. ETS EC 125/3 sander and CT26 with blutooth 2. Domino 500 3. ETS 125 sander with edge guide and finally 4. OF 1400 Router. Worked well for me! I”m set for a while I think. My track saw is the Makita SJ6000 with Makita tracks. I also just got the Festool 55” track with the shelf pin holes. Now I’m all set for a while. EDIT: Get the Onida dust cyclone that fits the CT26, works incredibly and the bag in the CT26 actually has nothing in it, emptied the cyclone 20 times and changed the bag only once after 5 years! Nothing gets through to it. Only microscopic dust that doesn’t accumulate. I only changed it because it was 5 years later so why not get a fresh bag in there,
So far, I'm 2 tools deep into Festool (~6 months in). My first was the ETS 125 Req which I will get the edge sanding attachment for eventually. I was using the $70-80 Bosch orbital sander for years prior and decided to upgrade as that sander got tired. Absolutely insane difference between the ETS 125 Req and the Bosch with regard to tool vibration, dust extraction, finish quality, and even a bit faster material removal. Even for beginners, I can't recommend anything cheaper than the ETS 125 Req anymore. I just got the CT26 and, paired with the sander, it absolutely changes the game for sanding. If you need a sander but don't have enough money to buy both, I would say just get the sander to avoid wasting money on a lesser sander, but otherwise I agree that getting both at the same time makes more sense. The next 2 Festool tools I'm looking at getting are the ETS EC 150/5 and the Domino 500. I already have the Milwaukee track saw (used to have the Kreg, but upgraded because I wanted cordless) and I would consider a track saw an essential of any hobbyist or professional shop before a Domino just knowing how many capabilities it adds while doing it arguably safer and more efficient than using a circular saw with a straight edge or a table saw alone. Obviously having a table saw in addition to a track saw is ideal, but especially if I was picking between a track saw and a similar priced table saw, I'd take the track saw all day long. My top 3 would be: 1. ETS 125 Req if you don't have a sander, ETS EC 150/5 if you can wait and save up 2. CT26 (15/25/Midi only rate the onboard outlet for 240w which may or may not handle more - I haven't looked or tried) 3. Track saw (probably a 55 or 60 depending on budget)
Great video, Jason~! My entry purchase into Festool was the ETS 125 and the CT36. I treated myself to it Christmas '22. One of THE BEST investments in my shop made to date. If I had it to do over again, I would have gotten the ETS 150, as you mentioned. That little bit of difference goes a long way. Last summer, I picked up the DF 500. Another great purchase~! I'm in 100% agreement with your recommendations, and I've been in woodworking for over 30 years (just a late bloomer with Festool). I always thought that Festool was just an overpriced tool that was as good as anything else, and then I got my own. WOW, what a difference~!! While I don't see myself turning my entire shop F-Green, I do have the desire to pick up their track saw (the corded 55 or 60) and possibly a Kapex (over the Bosch that I've always wanted). As you mention, they're not just tools, they are a system~! Again, great video~!
Thank you! You’ve 100% confirmed the name and order of the festool tools that I purchased before this video. Exactly! I’ld also add #4 Kapex 120 and #5 OF 1400.
My first 3 Festool Tools were a Cordless 12V Drill with all the attachments... A TS55 Track Saw... CT Midi Dust Extractor!! Most of my Festool Tools are Corded!!
New to this pastime ( replacing hardwood decks , balustrades and other exterior rotten wood . ) , I went with the Kapex 120 and the TSV60 for my first buys . I use a 1600 watt Miele domestic vacuum for extraction which is fine for this equipment and I had it spare too . If I was sucking fine dust ( paint/plaster etc ), then something else would be required .
Gateway to festool was TS55 and multiple tools including CT22, RO150 and drills. That was 2004 and I am still running these. 2014 Domino was purchase great addition. I like the track saw as a 1st choice esp breaking down sheet goods.
After discovering the joy of the ETS EC 150/5 during a different project, I bought the 150/3 for myself (it came with the GranatNet kit). But I didn't actually use it until I picked up the CT MIDI. I agree - the dust extractor is the most important part of the equation.
It's funny how close you came to mirroring the first three Festool tools I purchased! I have all three that you listed, and they were all in the first four. But I would go for these: (1) CT Midi i, (2) TS 60; (3) Domino 500. The reason is that the track saw is such a flexible tool that can potentially defer the purchase of a table saw and/or miter saw. This underscores the point that it depends on the buyer's circumstances and needs. I didn't have a track saw when I bought my TS 60, but I had a few sanders, so that was more important at the time. But a good sander is a huge work saver and hand saver so it's almost splitting hairs to suggest an alternative to your list--very good, sir.
I have the DF 700 as Seneca came out with their converter just about that time. Great machine, though the DF500 is also awesome. I went with the 125 mm Rotex first as I originally used it a lot for sanding reclaimed lumber and for that, it was perfect. I also have an ETS 125. I did buy the CT 26 starting off and it's been great. I pair it with Oneida's dust cyclone for Festool and haven't changed a Festool bag once in the five years since I bought (and yes, I do regularly check the Festool bag). I did buy the TS 75 track saw as I often use it to break down thick hardwoods and wanted the overhead to create less stress on the motor. I have a Carvex d handle which I really like, but if I had Monopoly money, I'd purchase Mafell's.
I agree with your #1 and #2 picks. My first tools were a dust extractor and sander. For my personal needs at the time my #3 was the TS55 track saw and two FS1400 tracks. Great video!
I bought these exact three tools at the same time for my first intro to festool. The sander is amazing and completely agree with the pairing to their dust extractor. Especially when you tie one of the power cords to the side of the hose and makes it so easy to change tools.
I went with the TS55 and CT26 combo first. Then I got MFT3. Then I got the ETS 125. Then I bought a new tool every time I got a bonus. Then I realized I had a problem. Haha I think your advice is sound.
I agree your first 2 picks for sure. I was lucky enough to buy the midi and the rotex as my first 2 Festool tools. I would say without a doubt that the Festool dust extractor was life changing for my woodworking. People just don’t understand how it impacts so many different parts of woodworking, including your health .
I’m with you on the Domino. I haven’t bought one yet because they are so expensive. But there really isn’t anything else out there that compares well. Sure there are other ways to do a similar thing. That’s what I do now. I will eventually buy a Domino jointer. As far as other Festool tools, I’ve always found another brands that win out my comparison criteria. So far, I haven’t regretted not getting any Festool yet.
I've got 2 of the Festools you mention--both excellent. Bought a 3M 6" ROS last year for a lot less than the Festool--no regrets there either. And Rockler has come out with a snap-in adaptor and hose that I can use with the dust extractor so that it works with non-festools. This was a huge frustration until I got the adaptors.
Definitely agree with Dust extractor first - can utilize it with other non festool tools , it will provide the same functionality - start and stop when tool is utilized. Also agree with sander as it will probally be the most utilized. As for 3, its a toss up between TS55 Track saw, MFT, or one of the Kapex saws -Great review as always! Thanks!
I bought CT36+DF500 first, then a Rotex 125. 100% agree with you on the Rotex for beginners -- the ergonomics are very tough to get used to. I'm glad I have it for certain applications (like where'd I use a belt sander or sanding endgrain) but it was a relief when I got the ETS 125 for "regular old sanding". I agree with you on the MIDI. I find my 36 big and bulky to lug around, and quite heavy when the bag is getting heavy. I'll likely get a MIDI soon for portable stuff and leave the 36 more stationary.
I have the CT Midi and it is astounding how effective it is. You think of it as just an expensive vacuum cleaner but it is so much more effective then any vacuum of its size including you don’t get shocked by touching it after sucking up a lot of sawdust. I would always buy it again if I had to do it over again
I have the ETS 125/3 and the TS60. I'm currently using a dedicated shop vac with good filters and bags which is pretty good. Trying to decide if the increase in suction is worth the best part of $1000.
My first festool was the HKC55, I’m a flooring contractor and since this purchase I have been able to forget the miter saw. I do have a Ct 26 on the way.
NIce video, My top three beginers to Festool would be the CT15e vac the ets 125 req sander and the ts60 track saw combo. This will allow you to progress and grow.
The Festool dust extractor is a no brainer,since I started my Festool collection, I've had no problems with having to clean away wide spread dust dispersion. The dust extraction unit is an essential piece of kit I've found that using my Festool tools with only the standard dust bag that comes with the tools still make a substantial amount of mess. With my Festool Midi Dust Extraction Unit, the waste product is reduced to near on nothing....!!!! I totally get what you say about buying thae dust extractor first...!!!! 💯💯💯👍👍👍👍
Good choice. The DF500 is a game changer; sound joints made easy. I chose the CTL SYS for portability - as in take the tool to the job not the job to the tool. Try using a Festool sander or Domino without extraction. Neither perform any where near as well! The whole point of investing in Festool is increased productivity with tool optimised for specific tasks that work TOGETHER!
Just bought my first Festool tool last weekend as a gift for passing an exam (ts 55feq). The next two I want are the DF500 and the ets ec 150/5, so glad to see those made the list. I have also been eyeing the CT MIDI, but justifying a $700 vacuum to my wife seems difficult lol
These are exactly the three festool tools I own, togeyher eith the cyclone for the dust collector. Couldn't agree more that they are festools greatest tools, I would add that their track saw is also one gell of a good tool (even though I use a bosch track saw that was gifted to me) Festool really nailed it with these tools, the sander is amazing, the domino is a time saver and the dust collector is in my view one extra component for any of their tools to function like theyre inteded to. 😊
My actual first three festool tools were 1. A TS75 and a CT 15 2. The ETS 125 3. The DF 700 What I would recommend now 1. Any festool dust extractor with an ETS EC150/5 2. A TS 55 3. A DF 500 or DF 700 depending on the size of work you do. I have both the TS 75 and TS 55 and the DF 700 and the DF 500. I work with a lot of 8/4 and 6/4 wood so I almost always use the larger ones. I prefer the alignment pins on the DF 700 and the measurement block for height adjustment makes more sense to me. A 1010 or 1400 router is tempting to add to a recommendation list. Lol it is never ending!
Great video, Bent, and you did a great job of quickly going over the rationale for making the selections you chose. The questions “Why Festool” and “What should I buy” are two of the most common questions of beginning woodworkers (and more experienced woodworkers too). The ETS 125 and CT-Midi would be my first two choices, followed by the TS-55. Festool’s dust extraction is second to none when sanding. It makes sanding a pleasure and virtually eliminates dust from the process of sanding.
From near the home country of Festool.. Yes - The latest CT Mini/Midi, paired with the Bluetooth remote is really no 1 if you start out and have scarcely used dust extraction on hand tools before. As you say sanding with Festool is a whole new and a delight experience. I now use 4 different Festool dust extractors with: Routers, HKC 55 circular saw, a variety of FT sanders, CS 50 table saw and more, even the odd drilling - thanks to the convenience of the Bluetooth remote and mobility of the dust extractor. Each to their own needs further down the road.. but there’s a often forgotten gem: The HKC 55.. I love it! On standard rail, FSK rail or freehand. I use it for high grade plywood as well with a fine tooth blade and the results are excellent. It has even replaced 50% or more of what I usually did on the mitre saw. Good video Bent🤙
Ct 26 Extractor, TS 60 K track saw with 2 55in holey tracks, OF 1400 router. Followed quickly by the ETS EC 150/5. As a replacement for the Domino, the Ten Minute Workshops, Loose Tenon Jig will allow for the use of dominos. These along with Paulk’s Smart benches, and a $1500 order from TSI, will be the main basis of my woodworking setup.
3 is a tough choice, so I'm gonna say 4. 4. DF500 3. 150mm Sander (could be ETS EC 150 or ROTEX 150) 2. Dust Extractor (really useful across the board, more than I ever thought it would be) 1. Track saw
I like your order. For me it was CT22, ATF55, and a rotex. My festool vac has been awesome and its pretty old now. I'd replace it with a CT26 if it ever breaks. I also have the 1400 router and DF500. If you are doing a lot of plywood work I'd get the TS55 tracksaw before the DF500.
First Festool purchase was the CT 26 and ETS EC 150/5 together and honestly never looked back. Then literally a month later got myself the domino 500 :)
I guess it depends on your woodworking needs and on what you will be doing. My first was the TS-55 REQ with a MFT/3 table. After moving, I needed to rebuild my shop and built things for the house. Next came the DF500. I could get by with other tools for dust, sanding, and routing. I just made sure they all could hook up to a 27mm hose port, and my power strip that was plugged into an instant on switch to start my shop vac. Next on my purchase list will be a Festool sander, and an OF1400 router.
Well-reasoned video Jason. I have an ETS 150/5 and agree it sits solidly in second place. For third place though, I would replace the Domino with the Kapex miter saw. I like the Domino, but I find that a good doweling jig like the Jessem or Dowelmax is just as effective for most garage workshop scenarios at less than 1/4 the cost. I put the money I saved by not buying a Domino towards a Kapex. I use it every day and absolutely love it. I choked at the price, but after owning several cheaper saws over the years, the Kapex is head and shoulders above the competition in every way IMHO. For the coveted 1st position, I agree on the dust extractor in principle. However, for people who already have a good dust extractor, I would put the track saw in #1. Can't overestimate how much a track saw has improved my workflow when working with sheet goods. Paired with an MFT table or Paulk bench, it is the most cost effective way to produce professional grade cabinetry in a garage workshop (as you've shown many times in your cabinet making videos).
Hi from Germany. Before I have bought any Festool a Bosch GAS 35 MFAC dust extractor was in my workshop. First Festool : Kappex 120 REBQ, second: TS55 REBQ tracksaw, third: T18+3 HPC cordless drill. In the meantime the Bosch dust extractor is replaced by a Festool CT midi, which fits much better to my tools.
I agree with your 3 tools, I get the midi this Saturday. The amount of Dust I create is insane, I wished I bought the Dust extractor first. I love my domino and my rotex which was a gift from my daughter for fathers day. great video.
Exactly the order and Festool models I bought a number of years ago, so of course I concur (also started with their "more comfortable" ETS 125 REQ sander after a demo). Excellent guidance as always! 😊
Bought the ct 26 many years ago with the reusable bag and realize now it's the best woodworking purchase I ever made. Super dependable, keeps dust out of my clients' homes and more importantly out of my lungs.
Thanks for sharing!
Couldn't agree more. I've got two CT 26 extractors and am very close to buying a third and final one. I will have of them topped with the Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy for capturing all of the dust and chips. This combination is amazing.
@@DavidATakes do you still use a bag in the ct26 or only the filter with the dust deputy?
@@POLPO_WOOD The Oneida catches almost all of the dust. The little bit that gets by has to go somewhere, that is what the bag is for. Since so little gets to the bag they last an extremely long time.
Domino is the biggest game changer in my shop. I’ve never regretted the cost.
I've just started my Festool collection, and I went with the TS55 + the midi. 100% agree that the dust extraction makes the brand. I've bought dust adaptors for my other brand tools, and the extractor makes me love those more too.
My first Festool product was the TS 75 Track saw 17 years ago. I recommend a track saw and track as the number 1 tool. Second tool would be a sander along with the number three tool dust extractor. Kapex could easily be top three in place of the sander.
I wasn’t sold on getting a dust extractor until I bought one. My mentor kept bugging me to get one, I got the CT26 and coupled it with a Mullet cyclone. Should’ve done it sooner. Not long after I saved up for the domino. Haven’t used it a whole lot with the things I’ve been doing but at no point did I ever think about getting rid of it. I always knew I’d be making furniture again. I had plans for sander or sanders, ts75 and the router system. Fell on some hard times and hopefully better times are coming. I still have my eyes on more festool
Hope things turn around for you 🙂
Great advice Jason. When I first got into woodworking, I found a small woodworking shop an hour away that I visited. They also teach woodworking. So they had tools and experience to share with me. They also had a very nice Festool display. I was able to try some tools, and even though I did not buy any Festool at that time, it helped me decide to buy Festool tools and I’ve never regretted it.
Good Video, Thanks.
1)Sander
2)TS55 Track saw
3)Dust Extractor
4) 1010 router w/LR32
Their Oscillating Multi Tool is insane also!! Check it out!
I recently purchased a CT 26 E to replace the huge Craftsman vacuum I used for 20 years. My shop is only 240 square feet, so space is at a premium. The CT takes up a lot less space, the hose is amazing and I purchased the Bluetooth module, which I love. I also got the floor cleaning kit and the foam filter in case I need to use it as a wet vacuum. I’m looking at one of the routers for my next Festool. Great video. Thanks!
I got the hkc first. That thing is still in its own class.
Two days ago I just got “ANOTHER” 75” track.
Everything else in between.
In my van I have a 76” deep drawer that cantilevers out of the back doors 56”
Inside that, but not extending past, I have 60” linear slides. On the slides is the csc sys 50.
So you fold the barn doors all the way against the van and there levitates the tablesaw 😊
I’m just starting my Festool journey. Agree with your list. I started with MIDI, TS55 and Domino. Shortly after got ETS EC150/5 and OF1010. Thinking next purchase is DTS400 then Carvex. Absolutely love having every tool hook into the same power cord and vacuum hose
Likewise, my first Festool,purchase was into the Festool System. I first saw the Festool System at a woodworking tool show a Japan Woodworker, in Alameda CA, one of Festool’s first dealers on the West Coast. There I met Festool America’s then CEO Christian, and purchased the MFT 800 table, CT22 and a TS55. I then added a couple of,Festool,sanders and the OF1010 router to give me a basic job kit, I was using on site doing boat interior repair/restoration work. The whole package was very portable and easy to set up on site at boat yards. Accuracy and clean cuts was very important to the fine joinery I was doing.
Cheers
Thank you sooo much for this video.
My first Festool was the TS 55. Then I bought the domino 500 and a Festool hose for my shop vacuum. I have been looking at a Festool sanders, my dewalt is not cutting it.
I understand I can’t get a sander without dust collection and I’m saving for both and this video has reassured my decision.
Glad it helped!
I remember being frustrated by simple things like building boxes and drawer boxes when I first got started (pocket screws slipping just a tad or trying to assemble something and just having something be a tad off) and then I got a Domino. I made one drawer box with it (using the built in guides) and the thing was dead flat/aligned all the way around. I swore I'd never *not* use the Domino on anything that required something to be aligned again.
And totally agree on the sander and the dust extractor. I have the CT 26 and I have the 5" sander mainly because I had a ton of 5" media to use and the 5" sander can use 6" sanding pads with the 6" interface pad.
I have found the Festool track saw critical when you don’t have access to a table saw. My first Festool tool I bought was a 6” sander and dust collection. I built and entire sailboat with it and have been using it six years later. Incredible tool! I have the domino 500 and find myself using the largest size 90% of the time and wish I could go bigger. Next Festool purchase will be the 700.
Great list! I will say for most beginners the sander and dust extractor are usually combo buys, but even at the high price it has been my best quality of life upgrade with the amount of sanding that I do. Also for me the domino and track saw are close for me but for a beginner the domino does help so much with alignment it’s tough to beat.
Hi, I really enjoy your channel. Amazingly, I bought the exact same 3 Festool tools this past weekend at Eagle Tools in L.A. I also bought a TSC 55 KEB from Eagle and have not used it yet. I’m 62 and am getting ready to retire from sales. I’m setting up a small shop to start building cabinets and furniture. A router and miter saw and I’ll be ready for anything! Can’t wait to get started! Soon! Keep up the good work! Tim
Before I get to my own list, you nailed in the domino section with some people wanting the benefits without all the work of hand tooling. For me, the woodworking aspect is fun and I enjoy the process, but really it's still just a means to an end, that end being the project itself, not the process of getting there. I'm even adding a small CNC to my shop to automate some of the things that take up my time in the shop.
My personal list:
1. Yep, agree completely. Dust extractor. Ideally purchased with another tool to get the benefits of both, but if one at a time is the only path, still a dust extractor. It can be used with any tool with the right adapter, and the festool extractors are amazing. I went with the CT Midi I along with the bluetooth remote and absolutely love it. I also bought the cleaning kit with the 36mm hose. But yeah, you nailed it with putting the extractor at #1.
2. Yep. The same sander you showed, the ETS EC 150/5. It's a workhorse. It can be pretty aggressive yet still excellent for fine finish sanding as long as you're cautious and aware of how aggressive it can be. Along with all the other reasons you mentioned as well.
3. This is where I differ from your list; for me it's a tracksaw. I went with the TS 55 FEQ with 55" track and also bought a 32" track. No regrets there. It's an amazing tool. I use my tablesaw far less now that I have my tracksaw.
Just for a bit more insight, I'll give my #4 and #5 as well, but neither of them are festool, but still work well within the festool system.
4. A Dowelmax. Domino accuracy, ease of use and joint strength, just a bit slower (though not by a ton), far cheaper than a domino yet still not a cheap tool. Having my Dowelmax has been the only thing preventing me from getting a domino. It's amazing. Jessem makes a nice doweling jig too, but I still chose the Dowelmax for the integrated clamping and because it's a bit easier and more intuitive to use.
5. A Parf Guide MK II. As amazing as the festool MFT is, I just felt that this was one of those instances where I could build better than what is offered for sale, and the Parf Guide has helped me achieve that. I've made several tops with it in different sizes so it's effectively paid for itself. I actually thought an MFT would be in your list.
Anyhow, excellent video to open up a worthwhile discussion Mr. Bent! Well done.
The first Festool tool I bought was the dust extractor, not because I was looking to get into Festool, but because I was looking for a great dust extractor. The second one was the 150mm ETS EC 150/5 sander. It took me a while to make the decision because of the price, but once I used it for the first time, I was amazed at what an upgrade it was on my Dewalt sander.
Thanks for sharing!
I've been having various friends and relatives suggest I try supplementing my pension by restoring and refurbishing old furniture - there are numerous YT videos by folk who do it here in UK. They say how I have made stuff and how I have plenty of tools and a decent sized (for UK London) workshop. But... my tools are based on gutting and refitting our current house so more about construction than furniture. I'd have to invest in at least M-Class dust extraction, air filtration, suitable tools, especially sanders. In younger days, I wouldn't have paid so much attention to dust. Now, I'm at least as concerned for dust in my clothes affecting our grandchildren and very impressed with the change of worldviews about dust control compared with older days. That said, I did, recently sand down and re-finish (with boiled linseed oil) a wooden high chair for our granddaughter - worked out great and daughter now asking for more furniture jobs as well as wardrobes
I love, love, love, my 150/5 sander!
My first Festool tool was a HK55 with a 1400 rail. Because I needed a circular saw. Then I needed a new coordless drill/screwdriver, so I bought the PDC/4 (I think, no longer sold). At this time, I was hooked because of the precision of what I could do with these tools.
So since then, I've added the CTM 26 (named slightly different in Europe) bought second hand, 4 other drills/screwdrivers, long reach sander, bluetooth radio, vecturo, jigsaw, angle grinder, a 2700 guide rail and a kapex 120.
For the last couple of weeks, I have been wondering if I should get a ETS EC 150/5, actually, so your video came at a good time :) I will buy one this week.
My approach to buying Festool has been to buy the tools as I needed to use something. It's been a while since I did any real sanding (because I've been building on the house itself, not things for it), but now I'll need to do some, so it's time for the next tool.
I have two major reasons for buying Festool, and the dust extraction is one of these. The other is that the tools make it easier to do precision work for me as a hobbyist. I know they are expensive, but I also have a minor reason of just liking nice tools :)
I bought a dust extractor recently and so glad I did. Much quieter than my shop vac and works great.
I love the auto mode so when you plug something into it and turn it on the dust collector turns on and off automatically as you turn your tool on and off.
I bought the 3 items you have reviewed in the same order last month except I got the 26 extractor. These were my first Festool purchases. The dust extractor is amazing. It is so nimble and easy to move around and use. It easily supplements my 4” collection on the table saw base by taking away the dust from the blade guard. And unlike most shop vacs, it is extremely nimble to move around and connect to my hand tools. I hardly ever used my “shop vac” because it was so clumsy. Got the smaller sander because most all my work is on small delicate projects and a 5” is more suitable. The Domino I haven’t used yet but am really excited about putting it to work. I must be a genius!😂. With only a couple years of experience, I got the same Festool tools a pro is recommending. Maybe I should start my own TH-cam channel.
My first Festool purchase was a CT 33 and a TS 55.Besr tool purchase I ever made.
Excellent list, no notes. I got an ETS EC 125 to start, and it was like a religious awakening when I used it, I didn't know sanders could be SO GOOD. I used a tiny Shop Vac with it and the dust collection was excellent. My fiance ended up buying a CT 15 and omg I had the same mind-blowing experience all over again. The dust extractor is the best vacuum I have ever used, and easily best dust extractor for woodworking. I use it for everything now, just general cleanup in my house. It's that good. The sander with the dust extractor is so good, I can sand inside my house without a mask. It is crazy how good it is.
I have the CT MIDI and the ETS EC 125. I mostly do small stuff so the 150 is overkill for my needs.
As a professional woodworker of 25 years, and a heavy user of Festool (pretty much everything they’ve made) for 21 (and now also Mafell) and a bit of a tool nut (very best and most appropriate tool for each task) I agree with you 100%…. And really well done for explaining your reasons so well, spot on…. Great watch, subscribed 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
While I have extreme lust for a domino my first festool purchase back in May was the Midi dust extractor. No regrets! Sanding and my tracksaw are practically dust free now.
We bought a CT 48 AC extractor, a TS FEQ track saw, and an OF 1400 router as our first 3 Festool products. We have a Dowelmax kit for loosish M and T's. Thanks
My first Festool's.
CT MIDI I
LS 130 EQ
OF 1400
& Most recent
TS 60 KEB
ETS 125 REQ
I compleatly agree! No. 1: dustextraxtor. No. 2: sander 150/5. No. 3 for me is the ts keb 55. Then no. 4 is the domino. Thanks for all the great videos you make! Kind regards Troels form Denmark
Right on!
My first Festool was TSV 60 KEB-F-PLUS-FS. Why I have a shop full of thick hardwood slabs and this gave me the depth and the power that only comes in this corded option. I my next purchase will be the dust collector for sure vs my shop vac and it will be Bluetooth. My third not sure I may go for the domino but likely the 700 though right now I have a Grizzly tenon jig I use with my cabinet saw and a Grizzly floor standing mortise machine both of which though slow work great and I’m not into volume but one of a kind unique pieces. So maybe I’ll go with a hand sander you made a nice argument in the video.
Very interesting to view your Festool choices and to hear your reasoning - perfectly valid. I started my up market tool collection by buying a Mirka Sander and Extractor, a decision over which I have no regrets, this was followed by my first Festool purchase, the Domino 500. So it appears I followed your logic if not by brand and it has worked for me. Some years after the impressive Domino came a TS55 track saw and shortly afterwards a fully equipped MFT, a really useful purchase to make full use of the Domino and TS55. Now having got hooked on Festool I went on to purchase a KS60 mitre saw with a dedicated small Festool dust extractor - the extractor has not performed well as it is probably not adequate. My final purchase to date was a router EBQ1400 which in truth I have yet to fully exploit. All great tools that inspire confidence and give great results.
Thanks for sharing
I agree. I purchased the 26 and love it. With it I purchased the 125 sander and have been happy with it for what I do. Will buy the rotex at some point. Domino 500 is game changer, completely agree. If you did a top 5, I would add the track saw and LR 32 router set up. Well done and I will try not to covet your tool selection.
Similar to the Planex 2 - people give me shit saying, “oh that’s for people who aren’t good at drywall” EXACTLY, I’m not great at drywall and while I’m improving, I can always get a phenomenal, defect-free result, with minimal dust, in a fraction of the time. More importantly it completely changes remodeling work.
Bought same tool and a come to sand ceilings after taking down popcorn ceilings in our home worth every penny…
@@blt981 Definitely, even for that purpose alone it’s very quick ROI for a couple of jobs.
I went with the dust extraxctor, sander and track saw first. I don't have a Domino yet, but that's probably my next purchase. Totally agree that the dust extractor is the single most critical piece of the system.
I stayed away from Festool for a long time (due to cost) but finally broke down and got a 6" sander and a CT22 dust extractor. The difference from my other sanding setups was amazing. After that a TS55, their mid size router, a Rotex, ...
That’s how it happens. Lol
All great points. And after owning several Festool products... I'd have to agree.
My first Festool was the Domino DF500. I was sure it was going to be my ONLY Festool. Boy was I wrong. My second tool was getting a sander and the CT26. Very happy with my CT26. I don't regret buying the sander... but I did get the Rotex 90. My intent was to use if for furniture restoration. And it is amazing for that. However your recommendation is a better starter sander.
The sander is what sold my husband on the Festool system. He was amazed at the dust collection.
I then added the TSC 55 track saw, another sander, the extractor accessory kit, MFT/3 table, the OF1400 router, LR32 system and then most recently I just got the Kapex. The only regret I've had is not getting them sooner.
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Great video, Jason!
I finished a kitchen table refinish project a few months back and am still cleaning up the dust! After that project, I KNEW I needed dust collection, which was my attraction to the Festool system. Yes, my HEALTH is IMPORTANT!
When choosing my dust collection system, I opted for the CT26 due to its size and the need for a HEPA filter for a cleanup in my mother's attic. I needed something that could fit up through the attic access.
Here's a tip I learned: if you're considering a larger capacity but not ready to invest in the CT36 or CT48, you can get that capacity by purchasing the CT36 or CT48 base and fitting the CT26 on it. It's a cost-effective solution! According to a Festool rep, the CT26 has the same motor as the CT36/CT48.
So my top three Festool Tools are:
CT26
ETS EC 150/5 EQ-Plus
TS60 with FS1400/2-LR32
I opted for the Jessem Master Doweling Kit due to budget and I will say the Domino is STILL on my list due to the dust created by the doweling jig!
Thanks for sharing
Knocked these out before the end of the video, so as to not be biased by your choices. My picks: 1) Dust extractor; 2 6” dia. Orbital sander; and 3) Domino - 700, since I make larger projects.
I'm just a hobbyist that occasionally expands out into custom/paid work.
1. Festool ETS EC 125/3. I updated the pad to the 150 to save a little money rather than just buy the 150.
2. CT 15. I never realized how important a dedicated dust extractor would be when sanding.
3. DF500 Domino. Did I need it? Absolutely not. However, as a mostly hobbyist, time is limited in my shop due to having a young family and wanting to stay engaged as a father/husband. I found that the time I save using the Domino pays for itself and more.
1) Dust extractor. The Midi works well for me.
2) Rotex RO-90. I get a lot of work restoring front doors and this tool's versatility and compact sanding head are perfect for this work.
3) ETS-125. The 2mm stroke leaves a very fine finish and it is Festool's cheapest sander.
The difference between a shop vac with hepa filter and My CT-Midi is night and day. I would never go back.
My kids bought me the TS55 track saw for Christmas so I bought the CT26 and an extra track and the connectors. I have a super small work area so I’m looking at the MFT next so I can get square cuts. Then the sander 😊
This is the best advice I’ve heard on Festool.
Basically agree. Dust extraction is the key reason I buy Festool. The health benefits make it a no brainer (not to mention that good dust extraction often makes for much better tool performance, particularly in sanding). I already had a Fein dust extractor so- here are my choices. First is the exact sander - EQ/150-5- that you recommended. Second choice is a Festool router. If you rout much MDF, I'd make this number one. Lastly (not that I own one) is the sliding miter saw.
I'm curious whether you would replace the Fein with a Festool dust extractor in my position. Thanks for the great content.
I don’t have any experience with the Fein vacs but I am sure they are also excellent
Agree. I just bought a festool sander after owning a cheapo porter cable for many years - Wow what a difference.
My first Festool acquisition was the pendulum jigsaw back in 2008. I bought it specifically to cut some 8/4 Red Oak for a coffee table and it put my old Craftsman jigsaw to shame. Recently I picked up the TS-55. Saving up for the CT Midi or the CT-26 next.
I don’t have any Festool products, but I would like to get some in the future. So thanks for the video. When I started watching the video, I was guessing you were going to suggest the dust extractor as your #1 choice. I think you are right. Every shop needs a dust extractor, and all Festool products work with them. Plus you can use it with all your other tools even if they aren’t Festool. 😁👍
I’ve got the domino ets 125 sander & the midi dust extraction
Love to see you working in your workshop up close see how you work very inspiring to see
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My order was the ct26 to use with my 3m sander then bought the ets125 with the edge attachment then the domino 500. Next will be the ets150.
I can tell you that I am still a beginner, and a hobbyist at that. the domino was a way to make joinery without the (or at least less) mistakes. you could argue that things like the Dowelmax are just as good, and that is valid... but for me the Domino is just easier. That was my first Festool Purchase. My second (and Third) was the MFT/3 and track saw. I went that route over a table saw because I need to be able to store it when not is use. there are trade offs for sure. and just for reference, I am making things in plywood and hardwood so if you are thinking about that setup but don't want to be limited to only sheet goods it works great for dimensional lumber using some parallel guides.
These were my first three Festool orders (six items):
1+2 Cordless drill (T18+3 E with batteries) + Work lamp (KAL II)
3+4 Dust extractor (CT 26) + Domino joiner (DF500) + Domino systainer
5 Cordless table saw (CSC SYS 50 with batteries and stand)
I purchased the CT36E dust extractor with the ETS EC 150/3 sander first and then the Domino 500. I am considering a track saw as my next Festool addition. Great comments and it made sense to me to buy them in this order as well. Totally recommend staring with dust collection and sanding. The Festool sander is a joy to use.
The CT 26e and ETS EC150/5 were my first Festool purchases for controlling the dust. After using it I was amazed at how good the dust extraction is. I added the Bluetooth module later. The quality of the tools are great and a joy to use for me.
Thanks for sharing!
My 1st Festool was a CT15. Then I went with your recomendation of the ETS150/5 for my 2 nd purchase. Not sure what my 3 rd purchase will be. Maybe the domino or another dust collector. Love how much quieter my CT15 compaired to my old Craftsman is.
I agree with you two of them. I too have the CT midi and I love it. That is basically the basic of all festool machines. I agree with you on the Domino 500. I have the 700 but I rarely use it. The 500 is usually the go to tool in my shop for most projects. The last one I think should really be the TS 55 track saw and at least one of the tracks however I have 2 for breaking down 4x8 sheets of birch or maple. I hated using Mt old Dewalt track saw cause wood chip in every direction in my shop and the track never stayed in place. I absolutely love the TS 55. For those main reasons. Definitely a must have for any shop.
I’m definitely in the buy once/cry once stage in my life. Watching your videos have ramped up my Festool desire. Got the CT MIDI, ETS EC150/5 sander, Domino DF500, plus the Edge Router, TSV 60 (the scoring feature leaves such a holy shit cut), CXS 18, and Jigsaw. I appreciate ecosystems that work well. I have an Apple ecosystem and now a Festool ecosystem. The dust collection alone has made this $5k+ purchase worth every penny. I know it’s not for everyone but when I’m working, it’s such a pleasure now. Goodbye Ryobi! It’s been fun, even if frustrating at times! Thanks Jason!!
You’re welcome
Is the OF 1010 Edge Guide supposed to fit in the systainer with my Edge Router? I can’t figure out how. Festool needs videos on storing various accessories in sustainers with the relevant tools.
When I decided to drink the green koolaid, here is my order 1. ETS EC 125/3 sander and CT26 with blutooth 2. Domino 500 3. ETS 125 sander with edge guide and finally 4. OF 1400 Router. Worked well for me! I”m set for a while I think. My track saw is the Makita SJ6000 with Makita tracks. I also just got the Festool 55” track with the shelf pin holes. Now I’m all set for a while. EDIT: Get the Onida dust cyclone that fits the CT26, works incredibly and the bag in the CT26 actually has nothing in it, emptied the cyclone 20 times and changed the bag only once after 5 years! Nothing gets through to it. Only microscopic dust that doesn’t accumulate. I only changed it because it was 5 years later so why not get a fresh bag in there,
So far, I'm 2 tools deep into Festool (~6 months in). My first was the ETS 125 Req which I will get the edge sanding attachment for eventually. I was using the $70-80 Bosch orbital sander for years prior and decided to upgrade as that sander got tired. Absolutely insane difference between the ETS 125 Req and the Bosch with regard to tool vibration, dust extraction, finish quality, and even a bit faster material removal. Even for beginners, I can't recommend anything cheaper than the ETS 125 Req anymore. I just got the CT26 and, paired with the sander, it absolutely changes the game for sanding. If you need a sander but don't have enough money to buy both, I would say just get the sander to avoid wasting money on a lesser sander, but otherwise I agree that getting both at the same time makes more sense. The next 2 Festool tools I'm looking at getting are the ETS EC 150/5 and the Domino 500. I already have the Milwaukee track saw (used to have the Kreg, but upgraded because I wanted cordless) and I would consider a track saw an essential of any hobbyist or professional shop before a Domino just knowing how many capabilities it adds while doing it arguably safer and more efficient than using a circular saw with a straight edge or a table saw alone. Obviously having a table saw in addition to a track saw is ideal, but especially if I was picking between a track saw and a similar priced table saw, I'd take the track saw all day long.
My top 3 would be:
1. ETS 125 Req if you don't have a sander, ETS EC 150/5 if you can wait and save up
2. CT26 (15/25/Midi only rate the onboard outlet for 240w which may or may not handle more - I haven't looked or tried)
3. Track saw (probably a 55 or 60 depending on budget)
Thanks for sharing
Great video, Jason~! My entry purchase into Festool was the ETS 125 and the CT36. I treated myself to it Christmas '22. One of THE BEST investments in my shop made to date. If I had it to do over again, I would have gotten the ETS 150, as you mentioned. That little bit of difference goes a long way. Last summer, I picked up the DF 500. Another great purchase~! I'm in 100% agreement with your recommendations, and I've been in woodworking for over 30 years (just a late bloomer with Festool).
I always thought that Festool was just an overpriced tool that was as good as anything else, and then I got my own. WOW, what a difference~!! While I don't see myself turning my entire shop F-Green, I do have the desire to pick up their track saw (the corded 55 or 60) and possibly a Kapex (over the Bosch that I've always wanted). As you mention, they're not just tools, they are a system~!
Again, great video~!
Thanks for sharing! I think once people get that it’s all a system, and not just a fancy tool, then it clicks
Thank you!
You’ve 100% confirmed the name and order of the festool tools that I purchased before this video. Exactly! I’ld also add #4 Kapex 120 and #5 OF 1400.
My first 3 Festool Tools were a Cordless 12V Drill with all the attachments... A TS55 Track Saw... CT Midi Dust Extractor!!
Most of my Festool Tools are Corded!!
New to this pastime ( replacing hardwood decks , balustrades and other exterior rotten wood . ) , I went with the Kapex 120 and the TSV60 for my first buys . I use a 1600 watt Miele domestic vacuum for extraction which is fine for this equipment and I had it spare too . If I was sucking fine dust ( paint/plaster etc ), then something else would be required .
Gateway to festool was TS55 and multiple tools including CT22, RO150 and drills. That was 2004 and I
am still running these. 2014 Domino was purchase great addition. I like the track saw as a 1st choice esp breaking down sheet goods.
After discovering the joy of the ETS EC 150/5 during a different project, I bought the 150/3 for myself (it came with the GranatNet kit). But I didn't actually use it until I picked up the CT MIDI. I agree - the dust extractor is the most important part of the equation.
It's funny how close you came to mirroring the first three Festool tools I purchased! I have all three that you listed, and they were all in the first four. But I would go for these: (1) CT Midi i, (2) TS 60; (3) Domino 500. The reason is that the track saw is such a flexible tool that can potentially defer the purchase of a table saw and/or miter saw. This underscores the point that it depends on the buyer's circumstances and needs. I didn't have a track saw when I bought my TS 60, but I had a few sanders, so that was more important at the time. But a good sander is a huge work saver and hand saver so it's almost splitting hairs to suggest an alternative to your list--very good, sir.
Thoroughly reasoned and well planned based on deep personal experience. I never miss Bent's videos and I've never regretted my Festool purchases.
I have the DF 700 as Seneca came out with their converter just about that time. Great machine, though the DF500 is also awesome. I went with the 125 mm Rotex first as I originally used it a lot for sanding reclaimed lumber and for that, it was perfect. I also have an ETS 125. I did buy the CT 26 starting off and it's been great. I pair it with Oneida's dust cyclone for Festool and haven't changed a Festool bag once in the five years since I bought (and yes, I do regularly check the Festool bag). I did buy the TS 75 track saw as I often use it to break down thick hardwoods and wanted the overhead to create less stress on the motor. I have a Carvex d handle which I really like, but if I had Monopoly money, I'd purchase Mafell's.
Hello again very good video so I have Festool tools Dust exstractor Midi I , router 1400 , track saw keb 55 plus drill 18-3
I agree with your #1 and #2 picks. My first tools were a dust extractor and sander. For my personal needs at the time my #3 was the TS55 track saw and two FS1400 tracks. Great video!
Thanks for sharing!
Same here!
My thoughts as well. Especially if this is geared towards beginner/intermediate wood workers. Saw over Domino
I bought these exact three tools at the same time for my first intro to festool. The sander is amazing and completely agree with the pairing to their dust extractor. Especially when you tie one of the power cords to the side of the hose and makes it so easy to change tools.
I went with the TS55 and CT26 combo first. Then I got MFT3. Then I got the ETS 125. Then I bought a new tool every time I got a bonus. Then I realized I had a problem. Haha I think your advice is sound.
I agree your first 2 picks for sure. I was lucky enough to buy the midi and the rotex as my first 2 Festool tools. I would say without a doubt that the Festool dust extractor was life changing for my woodworking. People just don’t understand how it impacts so many different parts of woodworking, including your health .
DF500 was the first tool from festool
it saves so much time in not having to make setuop marks
I’m with you on the Domino. I haven’t bought one yet because they are so expensive. But there really isn’t anything else out there that compares well. Sure there are other ways to do a similar thing. That’s what I do now. I will eventually buy a Domino jointer. As far as other Festool tools, I’ve always found another brands that win out my comparison criteria. So far, I haven’t regretted not getting any Festool yet.
I've got 2 of the Festools you mention--both excellent. Bought a 3M 6" ROS last year for a lot less than the Festool--no regrets there either. And Rockler has come out with a snap-in adaptor and hose that I can use with the dust extractor so that it works with non-festools. This was a huge frustration until I got the adaptors.
Definitely agree with Dust extractor first - can utilize it with other non festool tools , it will provide the same functionality - start and stop when tool is utilized. Also agree with sander as it will probally be the most utilized. As for 3, its a toss up between TS55 Track saw, MFT, or one of the Kapex saws -Great review as always! Thanks!
I bought CT36+DF500 first, then a Rotex 125.
100% agree with you on the Rotex for beginners -- the ergonomics are very tough to get used to. I'm glad I have it for certain applications (like where'd I use a belt sander or sanding endgrain) but it was a relief when I got the ETS 125 for "regular old sanding".
I agree with you on the MIDI. I find my 36 big and bulky to lug around, and quite heavy when the bag is getting heavy. I'll likely get a MIDI soon for portable stuff and leave the 36 more stationary.
I have the CT Midi and it is astounding how effective it is. You think of it as just an expensive vacuum cleaner but it is so much more effective then any vacuum of its size including you don’t get shocked by touching it after sucking up a lot of sawdust. I would always buy it again if I had to do it over again
I have the ETS 125/3 and the TS60.
I'm currently using a dedicated shop vac with good filters and bags which is pretty good. Trying to decide if the increase in suction is worth the best part of $1000.
My first festool was the HKC55, I’m a flooring contractor and since this purchase I have been able to forget the miter saw. I do have a Ct 26 on the way.
NIce video, My top three beginers to Festool would be the CT15e vac the ets 125 req sander and the ts60 track saw combo. This will allow you to progress and grow.
Thanks for sharing!
The Festool dust extractor is a no brainer,since I started my Festool collection, I've had no problems with having to clean away wide spread dust dispersion. The dust extraction unit is an essential piece of kit I've found that using my Festool tools with only the standard dust bag that comes with the tools still make a substantial amount of mess. With my Festool Midi Dust Extraction Unit, the waste product is reduced to near on nothing....!!!!
I totally get what you say about buying thae dust extractor first...!!!!
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Beginner, CT Midi, ETS 125/3, TSC55.
I got the domino right after this and learnt a lot with that tool.
Thanks for sharing!
Good choice. The DF500 is a game changer; sound joints made easy. I chose the CTL SYS for portability - as in take the tool to the job not the job to the tool. Try using a Festool sander or Domino without extraction. Neither perform any where near as well! The whole point of investing in Festool is increased productivity with tool optimised for specific tasks that work TOGETHER!
Just bought my first Festool tool last weekend as a gift for passing an exam (ts 55feq). The next two I want are the DF500 and the ets ec 150/5, so glad to see those made the list. I have also been eyeing the CT MIDI, but justifying a $700 vacuum to my wife seems difficult lol
Congrats!!
These are exactly the three festool tools I own, togeyher eith the cyclone for the dust collector. Couldn't agree more that they are festools greatest tools, I would add that their track saw is also one gell of a good tool (even though I use a bosch track saw that was gifted to me)
Festool really nailed it with these tools, the sander is amazing, the domino is a time saver and the dust collector is in my view one extra component for any of their tools to function like theyre inteded to. 😊
My actual first three festool tools were
1. A TS75 and a CT 15
2. The ETS 125
3. The DF 700
What I would recommend now
1. Any festool dust extractor with an ETS EC150/5
2. A TS 55
3. A DF 500 or DF 700 depending on the size of work you do.
I have both the TS 75 and TS 55 and the DF 700 and the DF 500. I work with a lot of 8/4 and 6/4 wood so I almost always use the larger ones. I prefer the alignment pins on the DF 700 and the measurement block for height adjustment makes more sense to me.
A 1010 or 1400 router is tempting to add to a recommendation list. Lol it is never ending!
Great video, Bent, and you did a great job of quickly going over the rationale for making the selections you chose. The questions “Why Festool” and “What should I buy” are two of the most common questions of beginning woodworkers (and more experienced woodworkers too). The ETS 125 and CT-Midi would be my first two choices, followed by the TS-55. Festool’s dust extraction is second to none when sanding. It makes sanding a pleasure and virtually eliminates dust from the process of sanding.
Thanks for that!
From near the home country of Festool.. Yes - The latest CT Mini/Midi, paired with the Bluetooth remote is really no 1 if you start out and have scarcely used dust extraction on hand tools before. As you say sanding with Festool is a whole new and a delight experience. I now use 4 different Festool dust extractors with: Routers, HKC 55 circular saw, a variety of FT sanders, CS 50 table saw and more, even the odd drilling - thanks to the convenience of the Bluetooth remote and mobility of the dust extractor.
Each to their own needs further down the road.. but there’s a often forgotten gem: The HKC 55.. I love it! On standard rail, FSK rail or freehand. I use it for high grade plywood as well with a fine tooth blade and the results are excellent. It has even replaced 50% or more of what I usually did on the mitre saw. Good video Bent🤙
Ct 26 Extractor, TS 60 K track saw with 2 55in holey tracks, OF 1400 router.
Followed quickly by the ETS EC 150/5.
As a replacement for the Domino, the Ten Minute Workshops, Loose Tenon Jig will allow for the use of dominos.
These along with Paulk’s Smart benches, and a $1500 order from TSI, will be the main basis of my woodworking setup.
3 is a tough choice, so I'm gonna say 4.
4. DF500
3. 150mm Sander (could be ETS EC 150 or ROTEX 150)
2. Dust Extractor (really useful across the board, more than I ever thought it would be)
1. Track saw
I like your order. For me it was CT22, ATF55, and a rotex. My festool vac has been awesome and its pretty old now. I'd replace it with a CT26 if it ever breaks. I also have the 1400 router and DF500. If you are doing a lot of plywood work I'd get the TS55 tracksaw before the DF500.
I 100% agree - great list!
I’d say the honorable mention could either be the CXS or Track Saw.
First Festool purchase was the CT 26 and ETS EC 150/5 together and honestly never looked back. Then literally a month later got myself the domino 500 :)
I guess it depends on your woodworking needs and on what you will be doing. My first was the TS-55 REQ with a MFT/3 table. After moving, I needed to rebuild my shop and built things for the house. Next came the DF500. I could get by with other tools for dust, sanding, and routing. I just made sure they all could hook up to a 27mm hose port, and my power strip that was plugged into an instant on switch to start my shop vac. Next on my purchase list will be a Festool sander, and an OF1400 router.
Thanks for sharing!
I was thinking about what I would get first when you started talking about it I couldn’t agree with you more you nailed it !
Well-reasoned video Jason. I have an ETS 150/5 and agree it sits solidly in second place. For third place though, I would replace the Domino with the Kapex miter saw. I like the Domino, but I find that a good doweling jig like the Jessem or Dowelmax is just as effective for most garage workshop scenarios at less than 1/4 the cost. I put the money I saved by not buying a Domino towards a Kapex. I use it every day and absolutely love it. I choked at the price, but after owning several cheaper saws over the years, the Kapex is head and shoulders above the competition in every way IMHO.
For the coveted 1st position, I agree on the dust extractor in principle. However, for people who already have a good dust extractor, I would put the track saw in #1. Can't overestimate how much a track saw has improved my workflow when working with sheet goods. Paired with an MFT table or Paulk bench, it is the most cost effective way to produce professional grade cabinetry in a garage workshop (as you've shown many times in your cabinet making videos).
Hi from Germany. Before I have bought any Festool a Bosch GAS 35 MFAC dust extractor was in my workshop. First Festool : Kappex 120 REBQ, second: TS55 REBQ tracksaw, third: T18+3 HPC cordless drill. In the meantime the Bosch dust extractor is replaced by a Festool CT midi, which fits much better to my tools.
Thanks for sharing
I agree with your 3 tools, I get the midi this Saturday. The amount of Dust I create is insane, I wished I bought the Dust extractor first. I love my domino and my rotex which was a gift from my daughter for fathers day. great video.
Thanks for sharing!
Exactly the order and Festool models I bought a number of years ago, so of course I concur (also started with their "more comfortable" ETS 125 REQ sander after a demo). Excellent guidance as always! 😊
Great video, thank you! First 3 tools I purchased, CTM MIDI, TSV60 and 2200 EB :)
You listed the exact three that I want to buy. I’ve planned all along to get the dust extractor and sander at the same time.