I'm excited to hear you talk about your process. I wish you well. Brings back film school memories back in the 80's in SoCal. Back then, my price was of course, the cost of film. Then it was usually a solo 1 hour drive right to FotoKem who would process it in 3-4 hours, so I'd walk around Hollywood all afternoon, etc. This was before they processed it digitally - they just handed you a processed reel. It brings back all those feelings when that film starts spinning in the camera and you got to get it right. I imagine a much greater intensity when you're more than an hour away from LA! I can't imagine the pressure of trying all of that on 35mm.
16mm/Super16 is perfect! It's a little bit like playing on a digital piano vs playing on a real acoustic grand piano. Don't let the naysayers talk you out of it! Shoot film and own every single frame of it! best of luck!
I started out shooting on film many moons ago. You kind of had to to be taken seriously in those days. I've shot Super 8 and 16mm. Turned to the digital "darkside" in 2008 when I was able to buy a Sony PMW EX3. Never shot 35mm film, but that was always and still is the "dream". My first two 16mm projects I rented an ARRI SR1, then I actually bought a Frezzolini LW16 camera with a 12-120 Angenieux zoom for $1200 which was a steal at the time. Still have it. Pain to use and I'll never use it again. Kodak used to be generous giving out free "test rolls" of film. You could usually get two rolls easily. These were 400 foot rolls too. Not sure if they still do that, but might be worth a try.
if you shoot both, it would be so cool to see the comparision of 16mm film vs digital. It reminds me of "the room" cause Wiseau shot both at the same time lol
Nice stuff! I'm going to be shooting my next university short film on 16mm too, very excited but its pretty nerve-racking even though im not exactly new to it haha
Haha, yeah hard to find Arri setups in city that aren't the big 3 cities, NYC, Miami, and LA. I'm in LA, I have a SR3, let me know if you ever need it! Also so tuned into this journey and I am planning a short on film as well, learning a lot from your channel bro, thanks for inspiring young film makers like me !
A couple of years ago I decided to use an old 4x5 inch portrait camera and daylight to shoot a hole book. It drove me and the printer nuts but in the end I am still very proud of it. You will probably be too when it’s finished!
people usually say its the grain in film thats the difference over digital.. for me, it's the look of tangibility. Digital doesn't produced those chemical real world colors. film you can hold in your hand. digital.. the image exist no where in reality.
I think it's quite the opposite. On film, you are not watching the "colors of reality" but a magical representation of reality. Think about it, if you would time-travel to the 1970's, it wouldn't look like "Taxi Driver", it would look like a digital rendering of the 1970's because the way our eyes perceive reality is same as the digital image.
@@rustneversleeps85 not exactly what I meant. I dont mean film is like looking through a window. I meant, no matter what it is.. it exist in our world. and the image looks tangible because because of that.
Great question. I go over it in the video, but to put it quickly: 1. Story called for the 16mm aesthetic. 2. 16 met our budget a lot better than 35 3. 35 feels to big… next time maybe 😉
So glad I found your channel. I've made over 30 short films, none on film. Always wanted to, but to $$. Look forward to watch your other vids🎉
Really appreciate the comment! You've been down this road a lot more than me, so it means a lot to hear it from another out hustling.
Inspiring to see your process, Tanner! Keep at it!
Just know I’ve binged all of your SR2 videos
@@tannerbrowningfilmslove it! 😂
I'm excited to hear you talk about your process. I wish you well. Brings back film school memories back in the 80's in SoCal. Back then, my price was of course, the cost of film. Then it was usually a solo 1 hour drive right to FotoKem who would process it in 3-4 hours, so I'd walk around Hollywood all afternoon, etc. This was before they processed it digitally - they just handed you a processed reel.
It brings back all those feelings when that film starts spinning in the camera and you got to get it right. I imagine a much greater intensity when you're more than an hour away from LA!
I can't imagine the pressure of trying all of that on 35mm.
Thanks for watching and giving your wisdom/insight. So cool to hear about the days before..
it’s a whole new beast.
16mm/Super16 is perfect! It's a little bit like playing on a digital piano vs playing on a real acoustic grand piano. Don't let the naysayers talk you out of it! Shoot film and own every single frame of it! best of luck!
You and I should have talked a year ago…
I started out shooting on film many moons ago. You kind of had to to be taken seriously in those days. I've shot Super 8 and 16mm. Turned to the digital "darkside" in 2008 when I was able to buy a Sony PMW EX3. Never shot 35mm film, but that was always and still is the "dream". My first two 16mm projects I rented an ARRI SR1, then I actually bought a Frezzolini LW16 camera with a 12-120 Angenieux zoom for $1200 which was a steal at the time. Still have it. Pain to use and I'll never use it again.
Kodak used to be generous giving out free "test rolls" of film. You could usually get two rolls easily. These were 400 foot rolls too. Not sure if they still do that, but might be worth a try.
That’s incredible insight, I have heard that they do help out indie filmmakers all the time.
Will for sure give it a try.
if you shoot both, it would be so cool to see the comparision of 16mm film vs digital. It reminds me of "the room" cause Wiseau shot both at the same time lol
It would be very exciting to see the difference… that’s part I’d the reason why I want to see it.
But it does give me Wisseau vibes for sure 😂
Nice stuff! I'm going to be shooting my next university short film on 16mm too, very excited but its pretty nerve-racking even though im not exactly new to it haha
It always is nerve wracking to see how it turned out.
Thanks for watching.
Haha, yeah hard to find Arri setups in city that aren't the big 3 cities, NYC, Miami, and LA. I'm in LA, I have a SR3, let me know if you ever need it! Also so tuned into this journey and I am planning a short on film as well, learning a lot from your channel bro, thanks for inspiring young film makers like me !
Absolutely! It’s great to know others who have access to those kits.
Thanks for the comment.
SICK bro, high risk HIGH REWARD
That’s the idea! Thanks for watching
Good luck! Don't forget to check the gate after each good take!
Great advice. We are only using 1 zoom lens so that should help not having to swap out lenses so often…
Man, thats a tall order, and a good way to never finish the movie.
Wow, thats some learning curve!
We will see how it turns out! 😅
A couple of years ago I decided to use an old 4x5 inch portrait camera and daylight to shoot a hole book. It drove me and the printer nuts but in the end I am still very proud of it. You will probably be too when it’s finished!
people usually say its the grain in film thats the difference over digital.. for me, it's the look of tangibility. Digital doesn't produced those chemical real world colors. film you can hold in your hand. digital.. the image exist no where in reality.
👏👏
I think it's quite the opposite. On film, you are not watching the "colors of reality" but a magical representation of reality. Think about it, if you would time-travel to the 1970's, it wouldn't look like "Taxi Driver", it would look like a digital rendering of the 1970's because the way our eyes perceive reality is same as the digital image.
@@rustneversleeps85 not exactly what I meant. I dont mean film is like looking through a window. I meant, no matter what it is.. it exist in our world. and the image looks tangible because because of that.
In that light you look like a young Fincher.
Probably the greatest compliment I could ever get 🙏
Why not 35mm?
Great question. I go over it in the video, but to put it quickly:
1. Story called for the 16mm aesthetic.
2. 16 met our budget a lot better than 35
3. 35 feels to big… next time maybe 😉
I own a fantastic 35mm camera
What do you own?