ND fan here. Back in 2022, there were several times when ND was down by only a score and driving and coughed up the ball. USC won by 11. A lot of my USC friends said USC blew out ND in 2022 and that it was never in doubt. Now they're saying the same things this video keeps repeating, about being down only one score, and if not for this then that, if this play went this way instead of that, then it's a different story, etc. Yeah, that's with any game in the history of sports. If I played that same game, I could say "oh, if Jayden Thomas doesn't fumble, score would've been 14-0 since ND was marching down the field," "oh, if Leonard doesn't get sacked, he would've thrown it down field to a streaking WR for the TD." Same idea. I respect this rivalry, and USC has legitimate players, and y'all will be much improved next year. But if you're gonna play the what-if game, I'd say do both sides.
We all knew LR would stop running and get pass happy ar some point. The team showed fight but not running the ball has been the Achilles heel all year.
I didn't have a problem with the game plan for the first time all year. The attacking offense was the way to go. Just a couple errors (primarily Cobb against the run) on defense
@@kelleycarr7954 I give Cobb an A for effort, but when a physical back takes him on, he can't get any leverage and they just bounce off him. Don't think he'll make it in the NFL, he's just undersized.
@@tedjohnson7485 I can't see how he got to three FBS championship games with the Oklahoma Sooners, he was one and three in the four-team college playoffs.
USC, excluding Pete's years, has been an average program since John Robinson left. Just not a premiere program. Similar to UCLA basketball. LA is the Lakers and the Dodgers. City is not really into amateur football and basketball (they get paid now, so maybe best description is poorly played minor league football). Kids are not the attraction in LA, so they go to the SEC where they are stars of the state for three years.
@@joanlevis7857as an ND fan I have to say that often times we look for highlights and recaps after the game. USC was tough and played the Irish well. Go Irish!!
Great job all year, guys - particularly Connor who asks LR tough questions and holds him accountable. No one else in the USC sycophant media is doing that.
Play calling horrible. 3rd and 3, throw a fade. 4th and 3, throw another fade. Turnover on downs. Forget you need the 1st down and have a solid running game. That swung the game from being tied to us down by 14. We couldn’t beat the refs in the first half and couldn’t beat Riley in the second. So disappointing.
Spot on. It’s hard to fathom how stupid LR play calling and poor game strategy. How to you not evolve as a football head coach? Same shit every weekend, no growth, no learning from mistakes, no accountability. This guy is a complete joke.
At least not a losing season at 6-6!! It's always wait until next year for SC football fans and never produce consistent seasons and again not in a playoff spot for 14 years or so
I kind of feel the Lincoln Riley experiment is going nowhere. I know that USC has paid him a lot of money but each season since his first season he just keeps getting worse. He is definitely on the hot seat for next year. If they don't win this bowl game he might be fired at the end of the season. I know they're giving up a lot of money because of that, they need to find somebody else just my opinion fight on✌🏼
The defense is much improved this year. Our running game shows strength. We never really got blown out this year. If LR is willing to be open minded and grow, then maybe we just need to be a little patient. After all, Kiffin, Sarkisian, and even Orgeron turned out to be successful coaches after they left USC.
PS. You guys are right. You can’t win football games chucking the ball of fades 50 times. We averaged more yards rushing than we did passing. It ain’t rocket science. But maybe it is for some people.
You would think that by Year 3 and with being paid 10 million a year, that Lincoln Riley would have the USC team in (at least) the bottom half of the Top 25 college football teams list by 2024, and USC is nowhere near being on the Top 25 list.
Thank you gentlemen for the season. Lincoln Riley is pass happy and it killed us. He rather lose passing than win rushing. I feel he is in another dimension because I don’t understand what he is doing.
We haven't been good since Pete Carroll left almost 2 decades ago. That's really really sad. I don't think I can do this any longer. It's not fun and too disappointing.
Pete allowed the players to be themselves, have fun, and compete for playing time. He was famous for allowing freshmen to come in and immediately compete for starting opportunities. Also, he had nothing to hide, his practices were open for celebrities like George Lucas, Will Ferrell and a host of others to just hang out on the sidelines and bring an entertainment atmosphere to his style of coaching. He enjoyed playing catch and throwing the football around. There was even a time where he got hit in the nose and got his nose broken during pregame practice with the Seahawks. Lincoln Riley is the complete opposite, he doesn't seem to connect with the kids and create a cohesive environment. Football is supposed to be fun!
I have to wonder how the game may have played out if ND hadn't executed that fake punt on 4th and long early in the game. Gutsy move by Freeman, obviously caught SC special teams napping. ND then marched down the field and scored. We can only speculate as to what might have happened if they had punted. Big momentum shift imo...
Rileys play calling again the issue-it’s been the one constant in all ur losses. Joiner wasnt going to get a lot of touches when you only u the ball 2o-24 times. Air raid bullshit. Fire him now.
I've enjoyed your guys' analysis all year. Tough season for all of us. I was hopeful Lincoln could turn it around. Never been a believer in that Air raid system here at USC! We run the ball here, Our best teams ever have ran the ball. ND like Michigan play great defense and POUND the ball. Riley is a stubborn mule that is going to do it his way because that's why we're paying him to do it his way. Culturally, we're not a finesse team. Kiffin, Sarkisian, Riley same type of make up pass first. If Riley leaves I hope we can go after Harbaugh. That's exactly how you win. RUN & great DEFENSE. FIGHT ON ✌️🏈✌️
Lynn gave up nearly 300 rushing yards today on our home field vs our rival - its like a man coming to your house and sleeping with your wife. EMBARASSING - why aren't you guys talking about it?
What’s even more baffling is that DC Lynn is one of the nominees for the Broyles Award. I just don’t get how a coach on a 6-6 team is acknowledged for mediocrity.
Maybe next year we will be 7 and 5 with an Alamo Bowl. I refuse to continue to think we will get another national championship. I am lowering the bar to 9 and 3.
I think Maiava could be pretty good next year. The defense needs better players across the board, although with Lucas and Gentry and Kamari and Fountain, we have a some potential stars to build around. The o-line is a big question for next year.
is the run game really our strength this year though? did we run the ball well because ND was playing to defend the pass first and foremost? we would get a few big gains here and there but at no time during the season did i ever get the sense that if we needed 2-3 yards, we could definitely get 2-3 yards on the ground. our oline just doesn't have the size to do that. in Q4, we HAD to throw the ball to stop the clock, especially with ND able to run at will and keep the clock going.
Funny how a bad coach can always point to a play here or a play there. Say that "we're this close." They can't see that their system is bad or that they're just bad. The reality is that a good coach has their team prepared to play tough, disciplined, opportunistic ball. We're not that team. Riley doesn't know how to prepare a team to be that team.
Just undisciplined, dumb penalties, terrible play calling again, how many dropped passes, awful tackling, defensive line blown away! Branch just sucks! You have talented kids and these coaches just can’t get the best out of them! We keep seeing the definition of stupid, doing the same old shit with the same outcome! Coach , your killing your alumni!!!!!
@@underthesun312yep and guess what happened he walk onto the sideline and I didn’t see one coach grab him by the facemask and yell at him for that dumbass mistake….
At this point if you told me that Lincoln Riley hated USC and was doing everything in his power to destroy the program I would stop to think about it for a minute
I know LR will never do this but I think he should hire an OC and relinquish play calling. His play calling and horrible clock management at end of games caused the close losses, specifically Penn St and Michigan
And hire who? There's no hot name out there. The dude at Indiana just signed a new contract, coach prime is not even worth a response, and please don't even waste brain cell activity by mentioning urban meyer.
Riley is doing what he's always done. It's just he's not facing Kansas, Baylor, TCU, TTU, Iowa St. At OU he had better players at each position in every game except Texas. Now he might have better players at half the position all the time.
They need to let Pete Carroll coach the team for the bowl game. Maybe USC can tell the Bears they can hire Lincoln Riley. Get him back with Caleb Williams. Riley just isn't a good enough head coach. A real disaster. Most of USC's losses should be blamed on Riley. He had a lot of games where did a bad job managing the clock and like was mentioned, didn't run the ball enough. It always seemed like USC would get going because they ran the ball. Then in the second half it was nothing but pass, pass, pass. Really dumb. If you want a good offense you should do both half of the time unless one of them isn't working.
LR was pass happy because he was trying to keep up with the score board. He figured running wasn't getting it done so he went to the air which proved to be a failure. BTW LR is a failure too!
Just forget for a moment about whether USC should have run the ball more; that 557 yards was more than the team put out under Moss. Up until late in the 3rd quarter when Riley thought he had to take advantage of that INT by Humphrey, the offense passed 23x and ran 18x. But the wheels fell off after the defense allowed ND to score in just 3 plays going 62 yards, putting the Irish up by 2 TDs with a minute left in the 3rd quarter. You're telling me that you'd keep running the ball against the Irish down 14 points right after they scored in 3 plays from the Irish 38? 🤔
Sometimes i ask myself why we didn't stay in the Pac-12 and dominated for years to come was the BiG-10 money really that good? I still believe... this was our first non 1 score loss gottta build depth and get physical up front both ways
Under Lincoln Riley in the regular season, USC has gone 10-2, 7-5, and 6-6. Somebody please point out to me where USC has improved since he was hired? Meanwhile Dan Lanning has Oregon 12-0 and Freeman has Notre Dame 11-1 in the same time span. 🙄
You would think that with being paid 10 million a year, that by his 3rd year at USC that Riley would have the USC team in (at least) the bottom half of the Top 25 college football list, but by 2024 USC is nowhere near being in the Top 25 list.
@@TrojanGoddess56 Riley couldn't even make a 12 bracket playoff. If there was a Top 25 team playoff bracket this year, he still wouldn't make the playoffs. The guy is milking his $110 million contract. 🤷🏻♂️
@@bori1986 And Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame? He has an Unlimited budget too? How about the Coach at Indiana who has his team 11-1 and in the playoffs in only his 2nd year? What's his budget? 🤔
One score game most of way? HA! HA! SC was lucky to be that close. They were fortunate to capitalize on ND mistakes. ND was clearly in control of the game the entire way.
1) The USC coaching job needs to be a CEO and not a play calling position. Riley needs to give up offensive play calling duties period. He has boneheaded series that kill us every game (like multiple). No other top teams’ coach calls plays they all manage all aspects of the game 2) We need a true NIL/recruiting strategy. So much so we should hire a GM of the football program. Literally run it like a pro team. We also need a clear strategy on SoCal/California recruiting. 3) Riley needs to recognize that in the BIG10 you have to run the ball consistently. Doesn’t matter who you are. And it has to be in different situations. 2nd and 8…guess what you are still a threat to run the ball. Time Of Possession is an underrated stat in football. 4) Winning recruiting at USC now needs to be valued depending on the OLine and DLine. It’s not a given but it is close to it that we will get a good to great QB and skill positions or we can develop those. We need to first get good Oline and Dlinenen and then develop them
An appropriate end to a season of mediocrity. However, might as well stick with Lincoln Riley, and see if he recaptures the coaching talent he showed at other jobs. Finding outstanding coaches is a crapshoot, as shown by all the hires before and after Pete Carroll.
It's 100 times better than last year. We've had significant injuries and transfer portal pukes. #13 is the only reason we didn't lose more last year. Congratulations on your win. We will FIGHT ON ✌️🏈✌️
It’s so much better it’s not even close. Before this game they only gave up like 21 points per game. Even today we got sooo many 3rd down stops. ND just refused to punt the ball and kept going for it on 4th down. Even with that we got stops. Our offense just sucks. It sounds crazy but CLR is not a good play caller. He is arrogant and stubborn. His refusal to change quickly costs us last season and this season.
Notre Dame is very dangerous in the play off.they got time now to heal.WATTS IS DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR.HOPE THE BENGALS GO AFTER HIM HE IS A ALL AMERICAN AGAIN.
Kinda dawned on me that we’ve become the Notre Dame of the 2000’s. LR is the new Charlie Weis and we’ve sunken to a level of mediocrity that is going to take a huge toll on the program and the university sad days but as always Fight on!
I thought ND stopped running the ball in the 3rd quarter when SC's DL was worn out it could have gotten very ugly. ND QB can't throw a 30 yards or more pass which limits their offense and nobody has been able to stop them credit to an improved O line...GO IRISH!
Right!! With a QB that has a 55% passing ratio - that only improving in the last Q because he FINALLY got to stop throwing those fade routes!!! He is a D2 QB and Riley is no F-ing guru!!
What’s the point of having maiva in there and not calling his number . Nd won because the nd qb ability to run keptvtgrre scoring drives alive . WTH Jensen lyonscjackson doing in there??in high leverage situations .
Unfortunately, there is no reason to think that Lincoln Riley will make the offensive changes that the current record and personnel would seem to dictate are needed. Any guy who answers criticism by alluding to the now infamous "untrained eye" is arrogant and stubborn beyond reason. And, assuming that he does, in fact, have SEVEN REMAINING GUARANTEED SEASONS at 10 million dollars plus per season, he does not have to do much of anything he simply does not choose to do. Paying off 70 million dollars to have a guy NOT COACH AT USC is not likely. USC is not Texas A&M and it is not easy to envision any SC Booster willing to finance such a scenario. I don't think the mindset of SC's financial supporters is necessarily analogous to what one might find in the SEC. It is very hard to know what else to expect from Riley other than his insistence on doing the SOS. Remember, the Minnesota HFC said that although USC was quite able to run the ball very well against the Gophers, he just knew that in the end, Riley could not resist the urge to pass and he would and do just that. I have been a lifer following SC going back to 1967. During that time span, two fanbases warned us about our new football coaches. The Pitt fans came on board to warn us about Hackett. They were spot on. And the OU fans came around to warn us about Riley. So far, it is hard to argue successfully against their claims either. MJDavidson
SC is not a bad team. But they're an also-ran in that super conference. Lincoln needs elite DL recruits or will continue to get trampled by cold weather big 10 teams.
Sorry, but… F*CK these moral victories. The W/L record is what matters. We were 11-3, then 8-5, and now 6-6. This USC team is regressing. If we don’t go 8-4 or better next year, then Coach LR needs to go.
Let's face it the Air Raid like the Wishbone before it is going extinct, running the football college and pro is making a comeback, USC needs to become more Tailback U and less Air it out.
USC you should never have joined the B10. You went for the easy $$. Look at what happened to Penn St and Nebraska's programs once they joined the B10. Mediocrity.
The whiniest broadcasting duo in college football. Did you see the size of NDs offensive line and running backs?! You'd run, too! The portal is not the answer. Free agent 19 year Olds looking for a handout. Just keep recruiting your own players
ND & Brigham Young have an unfair advantage by sending players off on a Religious mission, bring them back bigger, stronger, more mature vs incoming 18-19 yr olds! Solution is, make them play out their eligibility, then go on the Religious mission” then graduate. Not tall teams can send players out to get bigger, stronger, more mature! BIG DIFFERENCE IN ND’s size on the O line, and D line!
@glenswimmer4158, ND works with Mormon kids on the squad who need to go on their mission; but any Catholic missionary work done is not assigned by the University of Notre Dame. Any size difference you're seeing is just due to recruiting and red-shirting. Best of luck until next year's game!
Just to avoid any impropriety to the missionary work, how about sending the ND players out for missionary work after they complete their eligibility? Play ball after arrival, then get your 4 or 5 yrs eligibility accomplished. This applies to BYU as well! They have more married players, with kids, then any University I know about. I’m sure there are other schools doing Missionary work. Thanks for the reply, good luck in the playoffs. ND is overdue 1987 was a long time ago! Go Irish!
We had the best punter in the country, not too many injuries, better injuries. Thsis as another1 score loss-nd would always be 7 points ahead and we would be catching up. Woody mars out hurt s. But ND lost love. Maniac made good passes all day except for one, and of course the pick siz was way under thrown. But let’s face it Riley leonard kept THREE scoring drives alive with his feet. Once again we were 49-28 , NEVER ran three times in a row. Ad what the hell was Jensen doign in their in red zone and we can tie the game in q4.
Conner???? What are you talking about??/. Maiava was 52% passing until late in the 4th!!!! He can NOT throw the sideline fade route at ALL!! How is he better than Moss exactly?? How much real dynamics does he really offer in the backfield?? BTW you make it sound like he only threw one pick - threw 2 pick SIX's - a 24 point turn to the game- that's "good" play for you!! The only time that his numbers got better was when he threw the crossing route in the middle - if he didn't make those we would be toast!! This is what our "QB Guru" coach brings to this school???
There was no way College football 🏈 was going to let USC beat Norte Dame. For being under man on the defensive line, that was the difference, beside the first interception, sorry but the guys had had a hold of the receiver shoulder, that's why he fell the way he did. The same call that they called on USC.
@@oldmanyen2749Home field calls? Call the game correctly. We lost, again. Look in the mirror and don’t deflect to excuses. We don’t stack up to the competition. We’re sloppy and not well coached. Let’s own it. We lost to a better team.
@@oldmanyen2749 They got the wrong memo a lot this season. But I know it didn't cost all the time. We are under man on the defensive line, and Bartley at linebacker.
All the Maiva truthers out there saying Moss was the problem, Moss was the reason why we lost to Penn St and Maryland when it was clock management and the refusal to run the rock that lost us those games. Well Maiva lost us this game so STFU. The QB isnt the problem when will u learn. Its our terrible O-line, then its the play calling and Matt Eberflus like clock management. Bottom line u cant win if u dont run the ball on offense and u cant stop the run on defense. Its very simple
ND fan here. Back in 2022, there were several times when ND was down by only a score and driving and coughed up the ball. USC won by 11. A lot of my USC friends said USC blew out ND in 2022 and that it was never in doubt. Now they're saying the same things this video keeps repeating, about being down only one score, and if not for this then that, if this play went this way instead of that, then it's a different story, etc. Yeah, that's with any game in the history of sports. If I played that same game, I could say "oh, if Jayden Thomas doesn't fumble, score would've been 14-0 since ND was marching down the field," "oh, if Leonard doesn't get sacked, he would've thrown it down field to a streaking WR for the TD." Same idea.
I respect this rivalry, and USC has legitimate players, and y'all will be much improved next year. But if you're gonna play the what-if game, I'd say do both sides.
Thanks to both of you for your great coverage on Instant Analysis! ❤️
We all knew LR would stop running and get pass happy ar some point. The team showed fight but not running the ball has been the Achilles heel all year.
@@RG-o8zxxx nope
Maiava was 27/49 passing what are you talking about
I didn't have a problem with the game plan for the first time all year. The attacking offense was the way to go. Just a couple errors (primarily Cobb against the run) on defense
Btw Quentin Joyner averaged 8 yards a carry.
@@kelleycarr7954 I give Cobb an A for effort, but when a physical back takes him on, he can't get any leverage and they just bounce off him. Don't think he'll make it in the NFL, he's just undersized.
6-6 is unacceptable LR is overrated
Is Riley really overrated? I don't see anyone saying he's any good.
@@tedjohnson7485 I can't see how he got to three FBS championship games with the Oklahoma Sooners, he was one and three in the four-team college playoffs.
USC, excluding Pete's years, has been an average program since John Robinson left. Just not a premiere program. Similar to UCLA basketball. LA is the Lakers and the Dodgers. City is not really into amateur football and basketball (they get paid now, so maybe best description is poorly played minor league football). Kids are not the attraction in LA, so they go to the SEC where they are stars of the state for three years.
He's about to go 6-7 after the bowl game.
@@underthesun312 Cuz he benefitted from Bob Stoops recruiting classes. We see now at USC Lincoln Riley can't recruit for sh!t. 🙄
I predicted we'd lose to ND weeks ago. Difficult season.
ND fan here. USC could have won TBH. That first interception was the killer. Football is crazy. We beat a really good team.
Why do you bother to spend your time on a USC thread? Unless you take pleasure in our loss, of course.
@@joanlevis7857as an ND fan I have to say that often times we look for highlights and recaps after the game. USC was tough and played the Irish well. Go Irish!!
@@joanlevis7857 Honestly I do take great pleasure in USC's loss as you guys do when you beat ND which you haven't done for a while.
@@joanlevis7857fuck USC
@@docsavage6024Caleb Williams 2022 win you sure it’s a been while yall lose in playoffs with Riley Lenard fight on 😂
Great job all year, guys - particularly Connor who asks LR tough questions and holds him accountable. No one else in the USC sycophant media is doing that.
Another painful loss.
Play calling horrible. 3rd and 3, throw a fade. 4th and 3, throw another fade. Turnover on downs. Forget you need the 1st down and have a solid running game. That swung the game from being tied to us down by 14. We couldn’t beat the refs in the first half and couldn’t beat Riley in the second. So disappointing.
Spot on. It’s hard to fathom how stupid LR play calling and poor game strategy. How to you not evolve as a football head coach? Same shit every weekend, no growth, no learning from mistakes, no accountability. This guy is a complete joke.
you forgot the throw on 2nd and 3 as well
At least not a losing season at 6-6!! It's always wait until next year for SC football fans and never produce consistent seasons and again not in a playoff spot for 14 years or so
I kind of feel the Lincoln Riley experiment is going nowhere. I know that USC has paid him a lot of money but each season since his first season he just keeps getting worse. He is definitely on the hot seat for next year. If they don't win this bowl game he might be fired at the end of the season. I know they're giving up a lot of money because of that, they need to find somebody else just my opinion fight on✌🏼
The defense is much improved this year. Our running game shows strength. We never really got blown out this year. If LR is willing to be open minded and grow, then maybe we just need to be a little patient. After all, Kiffin, Sarkisian, and even Orgeron turned out to be successful coaches after they left USC.
Great synapses of the season & game. Thank you. FightOn USC
USC is the greatest 6 loss team ever lol from a nd fan
PS. You guys are right. You can’t win football games chucking the ball of fades 50 times. We averaged more yards rushing than we did passing. It ain’t rocket science. But maybe it is for some people.
So disappointing thought Riley was our golden goose and would win a National championship.
You would think that by Year 3 and with being paid 10 million a year, that Lincoln Riley would have the USC team in (at least) the bottom half of the Top 25 college football teams list by 2024, and USC is nowhere near being on the Top 25 list.
ya…Riley Leonard😉
Thank you gentlemen for the season. Lincoln Riley is pass happy and it killed us. He rather lose passing than win rushing. I feel he is in another dimension because I don’t understand what he is doing.
We averaged 7 yards a carry and ran only 28 plays vs. 49 passes
I know it will date me but I have been a season seat holder for 47 years and I really miss Norm Chow...he could call a game✌
We haven't been good since Pete Carroll left almost 2 decades ago. That's really really sad. I don't think I can do this any longer. It's not fun and too disappointing.
U know
Fair weather fans don't help us
Ohio st. also has a URBAN MEYER HANGOVER.
Touchdown Jesus touchdown Notre Dame
Pete allowed the players to be themselves, have fun, and compete for playing time. He was famous for allowing freshmen to come in and immediately compete for starting opportunities. Also, he had nothing to hide, his practices were open for celebrities like George Lucas, Will Ferrell and a host of others to just hang out on the sidelines and bring an entertainment atmosphere to his style of coaching. He enjoyed playing catch and throwing the football around. There was even a time where he got hit in the nose and got his nose broken during pregame practice with the Seahawks. Lincoln Riley is the complete opposite, he doesn't seem to connect with the kids and create a cohesive environment. Football is supposed to be fun!
I have to wonder how the game may have played out if ND hadn't executed that fake punt on 4th and long early in the game. Gutsy move by Freeman, obviously caught SC special teams napping. ND then marched down the field and scored. We can only speculate as to what might have happened if they had punted. Big momentum shift imo...
Notre Dame did not score after the fake punt. Went down and missed a FG.
Rileys play calling again the issue-it’s been the one constant in all ur losses. Joiner wasnt going to get a lot of touches when you only u the ball 2o-24 times. Air raid bullshit. Fire him now.
Nd fan. Frankly the only inexcusable thing was the audible at 4th and goal.
I've enjoyed your guys' analysis all year. Tough season for all of us. I was hopeful Lincoln could turn it around. Never been a believer in that Air raid system here at USC!
We run the ball here, Our best teams ever have ran the ball. ND like Michigan play great defense and POUND the ball. Riley is a stubborn mule that is going to do it his way because that's why we're paying him to do it his way. Culturally, we're not a finesse team. Kiffin, Sarkisian, Riley same type of make up pass first. If Riley leaves I hope we can go after Harbaugh. That's exactly how you win. RUN & great DEFENSE.
FIGHT ON ✌️🏈✌️
Notre Dame alumnus: USC's run defense was gashed all night. That was the difference.
Fire Riley
Lynn gave up nearly 300 rushing yards today on our home field vs our rival - its like a man coming to your house and sleeping with your wife. EMBARASSING - why aren't you guys talking about it?
Exactly. We are not close physically. We are not a year away.
What’s even more baffling is that DC Lynn is one of the nominees for the Broyles Award.
I just don’t get how a coach on a 6-6 team is acknowledged for mediocrity.
We have very few lineman and undersized linebackers. Lincoln’s fault more than Lynn’s imo.
@@J.Tower11 DEI hire - "Didn't Earn It" - never ever ever hire a defensive coordinator from football blue blood fUCLA
Thank you! Against a team that we knew couldn't throw the ball... D Lynn getting a little too much credit
I want that 13-11, 1 for 4 against our rivals, no CFP, no B1G, 3rd tier shitty bowl, clown show of a coach fired. NOW.
Maybe next year we will be 7 and 5 with an Alamo Bowl. I refuse to continue to think we will get another national championship. I am lowering the bar to 9 and 3.
@usctrojanhtl…the football gods are making them pay the price for all of Cheat Carroll’s underhanded garbage. It happens
I think Maiava could be pretty good next year. The defense needs better players across the board, although with Lucas and Gentry and Kamari and Fountain, we have a some potential stars to build around.
The o-line is a big question for next year.
Lers go Irish!
is the run game really our strength this year though? did we run the ball well because ND was playing to defend the pass first and foremost? we would get a few big gains here and there but at no time during the season did i ever get the sense that if we needed 2-3 yards, we could definitely get 2-3 yards on the ground. our oline just doesn't have the size to do that.
in Q4, we HAD to throw the ball to stop the clock, especially with ND able to run at will and keep the clock going.
What’s the line on Ramsey hitting the portal?
I thought Grinch got fired?
USC should have stayed in the Pac 12. Now they will never win another championship in the B1G.
"A place to start"? We're starting over again?
It's déjà vu all over again!
Funny how a bad coach can always point to a play here or a play there. Say that "we're this close." They can't see that their system is bad or that they're just bad. The reality is that a good coach has their team prepared to play tough, disciplined, opportunistic ball. We're not that team. Riley doesn't know how to prepare a team to be that team.
on the bright side, at least USC was able to compete with Notre Dame for half the game, that is a playoff team afterall
Just undisciplined, dumb penalties, terrible play calling again, how many dropped passes, awful tackling, defensive line blown away! Branch just sucks! You have talented kids and these coaches just can’t get the best out of them! We keep seeing the definition of stupid, doing the same old shit with the same outcome! Coach , your killing your alumni!!!!!
Greedy Vance Jr.'s stupid face mask penalty that helped lead to Notre Dame touchdown in the second half with the score tied at 21.
@@underthesun312yep and guess what happened he walk onto the sideline and I didn’t see one coach grab him by the facemask and yell at him for that dumbass mistake….
At this point if you told me that Lincoln Riley hated USC and was doing everything in his power to destroy the program I would stop to think about it for a minute
I know LR will never do this but I think he should hire an OC and relinquish play calling. His play calling and horrible clock management at end of games caused the close losses, specifically Penn St and Michigan
We needed to lose this game for Riley to swallow his pride recognize he has to grow acknowledge he is NOT an offensive genius -he’s a great qb coach.
Tarmac LINCOLN!!!!!
And hire who? There's no hot name out there. The dude at Indiana just signed a new contract, coach prime is not even worth a response, and please don't even waste brain cell activity by mentioning urban meyer.
What is his buyout ?
80 MILLION ?
Riley is doing what he's always done. It's just he's not facing Kansas, Baylor, TCU, TTU, Iowa St. At OU he had better players at each position in every game except Texas. Now he might have better players at half the position all the time.
Can't we stop the WR screen
They need to let Pete Carroll coach the team for the bowl game. Maybe USC can tell the Bears they can hire Lincoln Riley. Get him back with Caleb Williams. Riley just isn't a good enough head coach. A real disaster. Most of USC's losses should be blamed on Riley. He had a lot of games where did a bad job managing the clock and like was mentioned, didn't run the ball enough. It always seemed like USC would get going because they ran the ball. Then in the second half it was nothing but pass, pass, pass. Really dumb. If you want a good offense you should do both half of the time unless one of them isn't working.
LR was pass happy because he was trying to keep up with the score board. He figured running wasn't getting it done so he went to the air which proved to be a failure. BTW LR is a failure too!
Just forget for a moment about whether USC should have run the ball more; that 557 yards was more than the team put out under Moss. Up until late in the 3rd quarter when Riley thought he had to take advantage of that INT by Humphrey, the offense passed 23x and ran 18x. But the wheels fell off after the defense allowed ND to score in just 3 plays going 62 yards, putting the Irish up by 2 TDs with a minute left in the 3rd quarter. You're telling me that you'd keep running the ball against the Irish down 14 points right after they scored in 3 plays from the Irish 38? 🤔
Sometimes i ask myself why we didn't stay in the Pac-12 and dominated for years to come was the BiG-10 money really that good? I still believe... this was our first non 1 score loss gottta build depth and get physical up front both ways
USC has great players, which can only mean one thing.
Is Lynn still the best d coordinator in the country
Under Lincoln Riley in the regular season, USC has gone 10-2, 7-5, and 6-6. Somebody please point out to me where USC has improved since he was hired? Meanwhile Dan Lanning has Oregon 12-0 and Freeman has Notre Dame 11-1 in the same time span. 🙄
You would think that with being paid 10 million a year, that by his 3rd year at USC that Riley would have the USC team in (at least) the bottom half of the Top 25 college football list, but by 2024 USC is nowhere near being in the Top 25 list.
@@TrojanGoddess56 Riley couldn't even make a 12 bracket playoff. If there was a Top 25 team playoff bracket this year, he still wouldn't make the playoffs. The guy is milking his $110 million contract. 🤷🏻♂️
Dude Lanning has an unlimited budget
@@bori1986True, but winning is winning. USC invested a fortune in L R and the r.o.i. hasn't been up to par.
@@bori1986 And Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame? He has an Unlimited budget too? How about the Coach at Indiana who has his team 11-1 and in the playoffs in only his 2nd year? What's his budget? 🤔
One score game most of way? HA! HA! SC was lucky to be that close. They were fortunate to capitalize on ND mistakes. ND was clearly in control of the game the entire way.
Instant || Analysis. And the flock of "If only's" is in the air
I'm a ND fan and y'all imo absolutely outplayed us today in every way outside of our rbs Price and Love whom imo r the best Duo in the Country.
1) The USC coaching job needs to be a CEO and not a play calling position. Riley needs to give up offensive play calling duties period. He has boneheaded series that kill us every game (like multiple). No other top teams’ coach calls plays they all manage all aspects of the game
2) We need a true NIL/recruiting strategy. So much so we should hire a GM of the football program. Literally run it like a pro team. We also need a clear strategy on SoCal/California recruiting.
3) Riley needs to recognize that in the BIG10 you have to run the ball consistently. Doesn’t matter who you are. And it has to be in different situations. 2nd and 8…guess what you are still a threat to run the ball. Time Of Possession is an underrated stat in football.
4) Winning recruiting at USC now needs to be valued depending on the OLine and DLine. It’s not a given but it is close to it that we will get a good to great QB and skill positions or we can develop those. We need to first get good Oline and Dlinenen and then develop them
An appropriate end to a season of mediocrity. However, might as well stick with Lincoln Riley, and see if he recaptures the coaching talent he showed at other jobs. Finding outstanding coaches is a crapshoot, as shown by all the hires before and after Pete Carroll.
I’m not so sure your defense is better. We scored 49 points-35 offensively
The USC media is in denial...this team has lost more games than last year. The defense couldn't get stops in the 4th qtr in all 6 losses
It's 100 times better than last year.
We've had significant injuries and transfer portal pukes. #13 is the only reason we didn't lose more last year. Congratulations on your win. We will FIGHT ON
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It’s so much better it’s not even close. Before this game they only gave up like 21 points per game. Even today we got sooo many 3rd down stops. ND just refused to punt the ball and kept going for it on 4th down. Even with that we got stops. Our offense just sucks. It sounds crazy but CLR is not a good play caller. He is arrogant and stubborn. His refusal to change quickly costs us last season and this season.
@@TheRealJamilFrazier Our defense cost us last season. He needed to fire Grinch after the Tulane game.
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USC could have used Taj Washington
Notre Dame is very dangerous in the play off.they got time now to heal.WATTS IS DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR.HOPE THE BENGALS GO AFTER HIM HE IS A ALL AMERICAN AGAIN.
I have no faith in Riley the offseason hype is getting old. He’ll be 5-7 next year
Kinda dawned on me that we’ve become the Notre Dame of the 2000’s. LR is the new Charlie Weis and we’ve sunken to a level of mediocrity that is going to take a huge toll on the program and the university sad days but as always Fight on!
I thought ND stopped running the ball in the 3rd quarter when SC's DL was worn out it could have gotten very ugly. ND QB can't throw a 30 yards or more pass which limits their offense and nobody has been able to stop them credit to an improved O line...GO IRISH!
Program Killa aka Lincoln Riley called 49 pass attempts👎
Right!! With a QB that has a 55% passing ratio - that only improving in the last Q because he FINALLY got to stop throwing those fade routes!!! He is a D2 QB and Riley is no F-ing guru!!
Can’t wait to go 4-8 next season
No, first you go to 5-7 and then 4-8
The boys played hard but Riley failed the team again. Riley is an OC not a Head Coach.
What’s the point of having maiva in there and not calling his number . Nd won because the nd qb ability to run keptvtgrre scoring drives alive . WTH Jensen lyonscjackson doing in there??in high leverage situations .
JUST A SUGGESTION FOR MR. JOYNER, ENTER THE PORTAL AND GO PLAY FOR A TEAM THAT APPRECIATES YOUR TALENT AND WILL PLAY YOU. YOU ARE BEING WASTED AT USC.
Please ….. Notre Dame won because they hung more points on the scoreboard … end of discussion…
I’m predicting Lincoln Riley will resign… 💁🏾♂️ He doesn’t want it anymore… 🤷🏾♂️
If SC beats Michigan (they didn’t) then they probably don’t lose to Maryland or Minnesota????? What kind of magic is that?
Unfortunately, there is no reason to think that Lincoln Riley will make the offensive changes that the current record and personnel would seem to dictate are needed. Any guy who answers criticism by alluding to the now infamous "untrained eye" is arrogant and stubborn beyond reason. And, assuming that he does, in fact, have SEVEN REMAINING GUARANTEED SEASONS at 10 million dollars plus per season, he does not have to do much of anything he simply does not choose to do. Paying off 70 million dollars to have a guy NOT COACH AT USC is not likely. USC is not Texas A&M and it is not easy to envision any SC Booster willing to finance such a scenario. I don't think the mindset of SC's financial supporters is necessarily analogous to what one might find in the SEC. It is very hard to know what else to expect from Riley other than his insistence on doing the SOS. Remember, the Minnesota HFC said that although USC was quite able to run the ball very well against the Gophers, he just knew that in the end, Riley could not resist the urge to pass and he would and do just that. I have been a lifer following SC going back to 1967. During that time span, two fanbases warned us about our new football coaches. The Pitt fans came on board to warn us about Hackett. They were spot on. And the OU fans came around to warn us about Riley. So far, it is hard to argue successfully against their claims either. MJDavidson
“Hell of a place to start” sounds like Matt Eberflus… Riley is regressing- hope he jumps ship to the NFL - maybe to the Bears 😂
SC is not a bad team. But they're an also-ran in that super conference. Lincoln needs elite DL recruits or will continue to get trampled by cold weather big 10 teams.
LR pass happy offense won’t work in the Big10
Need a good QB in the transfer portal
Sorry, but… F*CK these moral victories. The W/L record is what matters. We were 11-3, then 8-5, and now 6-6. This USC team is regressing. If we don’t go 8-4 or better next year, then Coach LR needs to go.
what the hell is Jack talking about. This team sucks
almost ,doesn't count bro.
Fire Lincoln Riley, he is not the real deal
Fire yourself.... You'll owe him a huge sum of money if you let him walk cause some dummy in that front office paid him a big time contract
hire Dan Lanning
LR is not what they say he is ! Fire the fraud!
"2 pick sixes ballooned the score up a bit". Lmfao. University of Spoiled Children, when will you ever learn??? . ....
Nice job trying to spin this game in a good way but another L is another L.
Let's face it the Air Raid like the Wishbone before it is going extinct, running the football college and pro is making a comeback, USC needs to become more Tailback U and less Air it out.
USC is much better than their record
Yeah no they aren't fuck USC
USC you should never have joined the B10. You went for the easy $$. Look at what happened to Penn St and Nebraska's programs once they joined the B10. Mediocrity.
The whiniest broadcasting duo in college football. Did you see the size of NDs offensive line and running backs?! You'd run, too! The portal is not the answer. Free agent 19 year Olds looking for a handout. Just keep recruiting your own players
ND & Brigham Young have an unfair advantage by sending players off on a Religious mission, bring them back bigger, stronger, more mature vs incoming 18-19 yr olds! Solution is, make them play out their eligibility, then go on the Religious mission” then graduate. Not tall teams can send players out to get bigger, stronger, more mature! BIG DIFFERENCE IN ND’s size on the O line, and D line!
We know this let usc build depth we have a Pac-12 line still
@glenswimmer4158, ND works with Mormon kids on the squad who need to go on their mission; but any Catholic missionary work done is not assigned by the University of Notre Dame. Any size difference you're seeing is just due to recruiting and red-shirting. Best of luck until next year's game!
Just to avoid any impropriety to the missionary work, how about sending the ND players out for missionary work after they complete their eligibility? Play ball after arrival, then get your 4 or 5 yrs eligibility accomplished. This applies to BYU as well! They have more married players, with kids, then any University I know about. I’m sure there are other schools doing Missionary work.
Thanks for the reply, good luck in the playoffs. ND is overdue 1987 was a long time ago! Go Irish!
We had the best punter in the country, not too many injuries, better injuries. Thsis as another1 score loss-nd would always be 7 points ahead and we would be catching up. Woody mars out hurt s. But ND lost love. Maniac made good passes all day except for one, and of course the pick siz was way under thrown. But let’s face it Riley leonard kept THREE scoring drives alive with his feet. Once again we were 49-28 , NEVER ran three times in a row. Ad what the hell was Jensen doign in their in red zone and we can tie the game in q4.
Next year will be different. Maiva is him... Kid grew up today, and those picks are going to drive him. Everyone will be back.
most of the defense is gone. riley needs to be gone.
Reminds me of DJ Ungaleilei (??) in 2020 throwing for 500 yards for Clemson vs ND when longhair was out with COVID.
this is riley's burner - he plans to say "next year is THE year" for every year until his $12 million/year contract runs out
@@manish3572 riley will be sub 500 next year. he had an easy schedule this year with ND at home. Next year he's gonna get killed.
Next year will look exactly the same
need to get better everywhere he played like a quarterback still trying to get the offense down.
Conner???? What are you talking about??/. Maiava was 52% passing until late in the 4th!!!! He can NOT throw the sideline fade route at ALL!! How is he better than Moss exactly?? How much real dynamics does he really offer in the backfield?? BTW you make it sound like he only threw one pick - threw 2 pick SIX's - a 24 point turn to the game- that's "good" play for you!! The only time that his numbers got better was when he threw the crossing route in the middle - if he didn't make those we would be toast!! This is what our "QB Guru" coach brings to this school???
He needs to find someone who doesn’t throw to the other team
There was no way College football 🏈 was going to let USC beat Norte Dame. For being under man on the defensive line, that was the difference, beside the first interception, sorry but the guys had had a hold of the receiver shoulder, that's why he fell the way he did. The same call that they called on USC.
I'm right there with ya. I thought we were supposed to have the home field calls. I guess refs got a different memo.
@@oldmanyen2749Home field calls? Call the game correctly. We lost, again. Look in the mirror and don’t deflect to excuses. We don’t stack up to the competition. We’re sloppy and not well coached. Let’s own it. We lost to a better team.
Bro what lol?? Delusional
@@oldmanyen2749 They got the wrong memo a lot this season. But I know it didn't cost all the time. We are under man on the defensive line, and Bartley at linebacker.
Stop making excuses, USC sucks, the players are all second team in other programs, USC fans are boring and btw, SMU haha. USC just sucks
All the Maiva truthers out there saying Moss was the problem, Moss was the reason why we lost to Penn St and Maryland when it was clock management and the refusal to run the rock that lost us those games.
Well Maiva lost us this game so STFU.
The QB isnt the problem when will u learn. Its our terrible O-line, then its the play calling and Matt Eberflus like clock management.
Bottom line u cant win if u dont run the ball on offense and u cant stop the run on defense. Its very simple
That’s what so frustrating LR doesn’t get it. He’s a dope.
Notre Dame came here to chew bubble gum and kick ass...... They forgot the gum on the airplane touchdown Jesus touchdown Notre Dame
Touchdown Notre Dame
Touchdown Jesus
Touchdown Notre Dame
Touchdown Jesus!!!
We needed to lose this game for Riley to swallow his pride recognize he has to grow acknowledge he is NOT an offensive genius -he’s a great qb coach.
9-3 if they run? Hell they are at the worse a two loss team quite possibly a one loss team .