ARCANE: Unconventional love triangle between Vi, Jinx and Caitlyn
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- A video analysis of "Arcane" that focuses on the relationship between Vi, Jinx and Caitlyn and how their unconventional love triangle unfolds in season 1. Vi has a choice to make and it’s a tricky and difficult one!
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Right there with you on coping with withdrawal ❤
It’s cool that our 2 protagonists are in the middle of a love triangle of their own. Vi with Cait and Jinx with Silco.
The elephant in the room is mental illness. Vi has tons of trauma and, to a much lesser extent, Cait may have some too, but Silco and Jinx both have woefully untreated BPD, *plus* those piles of trauma on top. Powder was younger than Vi when they lost their parents. Vi got to hit some developmental milestones before The Worst happened. And sometimes it’s just luck about the brain you’re born with, but bottom line is Powder is legit crazy and Vi is not.
Powder’s meltdown when Vi leaves her behind (before the mission) is a textbook BPD reaction to “abandonment”, not just youthfulness. When she jumps into Silco’s arms later it’s “she left me. she is not my sister anymore”. Black and white.
Silco says black and white things too: “everyone always betrays us”. Bro, you just made a speech about loyalty when Sevika was having your back earlier. Vander also mentions “you had my respect”, but people with Powder and Silco’s mental illness often struggle to see love or feel safe. I do think Silco manipulates Jinx’s insecurities but i also think he often believes the dark things he says about Powder being betrayed and abandoned because he projects his own experience / distorted worldview onto her.
Back to Cait-Vi-Powder. Vi always chooses Powder. Powder is never able to internalize it. When Vi is leaving her behind because “you’re all i have left”, when Vi is back and holding her (“are you real?”), when Vi says “im here for you. Only you.”, when she says “nothing will ever change that” (re: are we still sisters?)”, when she sees Vi part ways with Cait on the bridge, when Vi chooses her again by saying “we’ll go away together”. Vi doesn’t even reject Jinx! That’s a misconception. When Powder says “I’ve changed”, Vi says “it’s okay; you did what you had to do to survive; so did I”. But Powder really struggles to retain these things when she’s splitting into black and white thinking. It can be thankless at times to try to reassure someone who is disorderedly insecure. 100 devoted acts disappear behind 1 hesitation.
A detail I enjoyed is the way the sisters know each other. When Powder does crazy things like talk to people who aren’t there, Cait is thrown off by it but Vi is not. Both Vi and Silco occasionally just kind of move past some of Powder’s most erratic actions. Do we think Powder’s meltdown before the Vander rescue mission is the first time that happened? Nah. Powder has probably always been nuts about Vi and Vi is familiar with her reactions and tiptoes around them. Anyone who’s loved someone with BPD knows how fragile they can be and how strongly they react to the slightest threat. So Powder being nuts is not news to Vi. The one time she’s taken aback is when she sees her now grown and empowered sister gunning people down. Indeed, BPD comes to full bloom in the 20s. Powder is now gone from sensitive and stormy to scary dangerous, especially when coupled with her penchant for explosives and poisonous new parent.
Vi is not ill like that. When she went home with Cait it’s because Powder had literally just shot at her. Best let someone cool off when they’re in THAT kind of mood, before trying to make up again. When Vi is asked to murder an innocent bystander to prove her devotion to Powder, she doesn’t even hesitate. Sure, Vi loves Cait by then but that’s not even the issue. She’s not going to murder someone in cold blood because her crazy sister is having one of her meltdowns. She remains focused on trying to calm her sister down.
In the end, Jinx says i thought you could still love me… you’ve changed too”. Sigh. Disordered thinking continues. Romanticizing how much Vi always loved her before (even though they probably had plenty of fights as kids) and concluding she doesn’t love her now (despite mountains of evidence to the contrary). Powder just feels bad and that’s how she things when she’s in pain, no matter what anyone says.
The irony is that Vi has, in fact, been slowly changing sides. Nothing to do with Powder vs Cait. More about Top vs Under, anti-enforcer vs pro-enforcer. Vi is perfectly able to love her sister while growing into a more nuanced view of who the heroes and villains are in her political landscape. But for someone like Powder, Vi shifting at all is too threatening to contemplate.
All this to say, Vi never had to make a choice. She was always all about Powder but Powder was straight up triggered by Cait’s very existence and she exploded all by herself. Vi had zero agency in her own “love triangle.”
Amazing points you make! I really like your analysis of Jinx's mental state, it makes total sense to me. Mental illness makes it hard for Jinx to see anyone’s perspective but her own. What doesn’t fit, she ignores… And I see your point about Vi not really having any agency with Jinx, but my point is that she has to! She can’t let Jinx make all the choices for her anymore…
jinx so badly misunderstands the notion of romantic love that i sometimes wonder if she thinks babies are delivered by storks. if i could say one thing to her i'd just want to say 'cailtyn isn't a replacement sister for her, she's a backup sister for you, and i guarantee SHE won't punch you'
Edit: 11:54 is so funny. No matter what Jinx does, the universe pulls an uno reverse on her. She tried to save Vander and Vi and Mylo and Claggor, and screwed up and killed them. She blew up the council just as they were voting to give Zaun freedom. And she tried to screw up a romantic relationship Vi had already screwed up, and wound up getting Vi and Cait BACK TOGETHER. If I were her I'd just throw in the towel lol
I was thinking the first bit as well, in real terms Cait would be a perfect fit for Jinx as an elder sister figure. She shares a lot more of Jinx's interests and could put her in touch with other tinkerers like Jayce, Viktor or Heimerdinger even. She is also a calmer person than Vi, though Vi has gotten better with age. Vi relating to Jinx because of their shared background, while Cait could relate more to her interests.
Together they could give Jinx a home where she could put herself back together, be there to hold her when her inner demons threaten to overwhelm her.
I think she perfectly understands what Caitlyn represents for Vi. She even calls Caitlyn her girlfriend. Jinx wants to be the only person Vi cares about. She can't let her sister's love be shared with someone else even if it's a different kind of love.
@@Morbacounet Yes, I think she'd always have been jealous really of whoever her sister ended up with :(
@@Morbacounet Yeah, but to think that romantic love cannot coexist with loving one's siblings is delusional. They're two completely different things. And believing someone should only be allowed to love one person is controlling and dysfunctional. People need social networks and friends outside of a given relationship or they'll break down.
(I know you're not saying this, I'm just saying Jinx's model for relationships is a bit off lol)
Nah, she knows the concept of making babies since one time she says "sisters, rigt? Can't live with them, can't stuff 'em back in the old babymaker." Also, she is borderline which means she will clutch onto whoever is her favorite person, in this case Vi, and do everything to avoid abandonement. It includes driving other people away and being jealous of other people in her fav person's life. The avoiding abandonement sometimes can include going violent against others or harming self as well. So, no, Jinx pretty much understands everything. She is just suffering from a bad childhood, bad bringing up, and other mental illnesses and conditions such as psychosis along with borderline which is a personality disorder and not a treatable condition like mood disorders.
As for predictions for season 2, I think we'll get to the point where Vi has to emotionally disown Jinx, and it will be painful.
You might be right... That's going to hurt! 😬
Nooo 😢
I’m holding onto the hope they eventually they figure something out because of this (pretty sure official) comic of them. Though it revolves around the bunny plushy and Vi already gave Jinx that plushy😭
@@eatingmygrandmasbed It'll be sad no matter what 😭
I feel like Vi is going to say something like I love powder I don’t know who this Jinx is and then she choices Caitlyn over jinx
i think the reason why vi didnt say anything when jinx said "i thought maybe you could love like u used to, even though im different" was bc she was in shock or believed that if she says something more, she will ruin everything like in ep 3, but we see clearly how her eyes r desperate to tell jinx how she loves her sm
That could also be right, both guilt and caution holding her tongue! 👍 She knows how askew Jinx/Powder's interpretations of statements can be!
to build off 28:50 (why didn't Vi tell Jinx she loved her) , Vi can't say she loves her because she DOESN'T love her. The line from the song, "Why can't you love who I am?" gives us the clue here, speifically loving 'who jinx is' rather than loving 'jinx'. As both Caitlyn and Vander point out, Vi has "a good heart" -- she just isn't capable of loving someone who could launch a rocket into a city, who values revenge and chaos, someone who is posessive, jealous, violent, out of control, and amoral. Where Silco values Jinx's worst traits and encourages them ("Everyone betrays us" --> distrustful and posessive, "you're perfect" --> being traumatized and violent is a good thing, etc) , Vi is scared and even a little disgusted by Jinx in the tea party scene (how she flinches when Jinx reveals the cupcake etc). Vi is trying SO HARD to keep loving Jinx, because Vi values family and loyalty. She wants to love her! She desperatly wants a bit of Powder to be left because it'll be so much easier to love her sister then. But JInx figures out what Vi can't admit to herself: this isn't a person Vi can love.
Meanwhile Caitlyn's over there being every quality "a good heart" would value (patient, thoughtful, empathetic, reasonable, moral, brave, dutiful, heroic, able and willing to make sacrifices when needed), lookin like she do, CARESSING VI'S CHEEK IN BED and even tho the choice in VI's heart bewteen enforcer and sister should be obvious, Caitlyn's got everything Vi thinks is worth loving -- and Jinx has basically none.
TLDR: season 1 is a breakup story where Vi wants to tell Jinx "its not you it's me" but in actuality it's totally, completely, 100% "it's not me it's you"
Extremely well put! I really like your take on things, that the whole "family first" code that Vi lives by is shaken by her not being able to love who her sister has become. And moreover loving someone who is definitely NOT part of the family... I just love Arcane (sigh)... And your comment, thanks for that! 😊
“Vi can’t help but look caitlyn’s way. Neither can I- I mean the viewers” got me rollin
18:27 id like to add that Cait sold her rifle to get shimmer for Vi; setting down her only way of defending herself in the undercity, but Jinx couldn’t even set down her gun when reunited with her sister,even pointing it at her! this shows that Cait can stop the violence for Vi but Jinx can’t. i love the parallels between them and i love this video 💕
Yes, so many parallels, it's a wonderful love triangle! ❤️
I personally love the contrast in the way they shoot and how it reflects their personality and interactions with other characters.
For Jinx, the way she simply pulls out the most deadly weapon in her arsenal and just pulls the trigger (whether it be for a gun or bomb), not caring much of the consequences is very telling when we see how she handles other situations. She doesn't need to know who shes shooting or necessarily why (seeing in the times she has or has nearly caused friendly fire). Overall its a mere reflection of her cautionless and reckless nature and her black and white view of the world.
In contrast with Cait, who seems to be prepared and eagle eyed with as little risk as possible placed upon herself and her allies. Altough this is an obviously showing of her cautious nature, her being a a sharp shooter makes her able to see small details that may be invisible, difficult to see or even insignificant to others which is not only peads to her skill in detective work but also in how she handles others within a personal connection as seen when she is quite easily and quickly able to push past the walls Vi set up.
I love this type of writing where one thing seems to always be tied to another. It's true to life (I can definitely relate to this based off of my own experiences).
I don't know it this is just a mess or i somehow missed something in the video, i sure hope it isnt but who knows.
Loved the video, look forward to rewatching it a dozen times and/or more.
Thank you! Yes, I found the parallels and contrasts between Jinx and Caitlyn fascinating. Individually we can interpret so much from how they use firearms, but we get additional information because they offset each other so sharply. Wonderful writing! Simply because it's so true to life, as you say, and yet nudged a little so it feels like fate.
Season 2 is going to be crazy, it’ll be really difficult for Vi. Imagine having to choose between your traumatized sister and a love that wants to love you and care for you (something Vi never had).
I can picture a scene where Vi says goodbye to Cait and they make love and then Vi leaves her the following morning for Jinxs. This would break Cait's heart tho.
I had the exact same thought, right after watching Arcane the first time 🫣 That would break my heart (and Vi and Caitlyn's too!). 😭
@@tildaowen You know the drama comes together with the love. I know we're going to get what we want but at what cost?
@@cultureshock9236 precisely, at what cost! 😬
I wonder if season two is going to be the finale in and this is what starts the events of the league of legends game bc we have convergence which set 5 years after arcane bc vi and Caitlyn are in there 30s jinx is 25 years old by the events of convergence. Bc why bc in game voices lines hints that vi and jinx are enemies now
@@kevingame3198 The intro to the show certainly indicates that they're enemies too! I also wonder if season 2 ends this story arc. I kind of hope it does, because long running shows really get worse along the way! Mainly because the story hasn't been thought through till the end, and I know the two first seasons of Arcane have been 😊
This show gives the worst brain rot in the best way. Thank you for another thoughtful analysis.❤
Thank you! And well put, I feel the same... 😍
I believe Vi and Caitlyn are soulmates to each other, they’re each other’s one true love.
Aaahhhh, I just love them... ❤️❤️❤️
I believe that.
I think true love is platonic, more than “romanic love”
@@miabellaperez3367 I still think they are soulmates.
@@miabellaperez3367 What do you mean, true love is only for friends not lovers? Or do you mean in the original platonic sense (from Plato's philosophy) that true love (or the best kind of love) can only be between two men (one younger one older)?
I LOVE this show, and I _still_ didn’t see HALF of the parallels between Caitlyn and Jinx! Amazing!
Thank you! Once you take a closer look, all the parallels and contrasts just pop up so logically 😊
I noticed that when Vi was younger, her hair colour was a lighter pink, matching Powder's hair colour more. But once she's older (and meets Caitlyn), and Jinx has been adopted by Silco, Vi's hair becomes a more vibrant, vivid and intense colour, matching the intense colour of Caitlyn's hair.
Just an observation - I could be completely wrong :)
I haven't watched Arcane in a while, but the chemistry between Caitlyn and Vi + the announcement of season 2 drew me back in...I'm so excited!!!
Nice observation, I agree that there's a significance in the change of hair colour. I think it signifies some sort of maturity, the colour being deeper and darker...
I think that the way Jinx feels about Caitlyn replacing her as potentially highlighting that developmentally she is still quite young and it shows that she is unable to conceptualize the way that someone may begin to spend more time with romantic partners than with family members. This can be a really difficult thing for younger siblings to understand as their older siblings start to date or even just have friends and seeing that as "replacement". And I think the age difference between Jinx and Caitlyn along with different backgrounds in trauma lead to the ways that they are different.
Oh yes, I agree. As I mentioned in the video, Jinx seems to be held in a childish state. She doesn't rationalise like an adult, like Caitlyn and Vi. A child is also often incapable of seeing more than one side to things and is quite selfish and possessive.
If vi and Caitlyn don’t get together in season 2 I’m gonna scream. Also love the videos and the analysis is very fascinating
Me too! And thanks 😘
Love the video. The unconventional love triangle makes the show a lot more interesting. I'm not into love stories but my heart melts every time Vi and Cait are together.
I just disagree with one thing.
3:55 Caitlyn doesn't ruin the reunion, it's Jinx who immediately pulls a gun out before a single word is spoken (Vi bringing the enforcer who wants to arrest her sister isn't the brightest idea too). It's a constant in the series : Jinx ... jinxes everything. The heist, Vander's escape, the smuggling operation, her terrorist attack, the theft of the Hextech gemstone, her reunion with Vi, the bridge scene and the last supper. Every time, she's the reason it goes wrong. She's constantly ruining her own life because of her paranoia and lack of trust. I empathise with her trauma and I like her but she's reason she becomes Jinx.
I hope you have other videos in stock : my Arcane withdrawal isn't finished yet and I'm struggling ^^.
Thanks! Yes, Jinx does have that name for a reason, and she seems to both embrace it and struggle with it. But as you say "Vi bringing the enforcer who wants to arrest her sister isn't the brightest idea too": simply by being present Caitlyn ruins the reunion. Does she do it on purpose? No, her intention isn't to ruin anything, but her presence upsets Jinx anyway. Caitlyn is wary of Jinx (and with rights) and she shows it. Not exactly friendly...
And the same goes for Jinx, she distrusts enforcers and so she deliberately tries to ruin what Caitlyn and Vi have got going. But Jinx also has the best intentions sometimes, e.g. when she sets off the monkey bomb in episode 3, ruining the escape that Vi and the gang had just achieved.
But yes, if Jinx was nicer and less "jinxy" the reunion could have gone better with or without Caitlyn present! :-)
I think maybe the best thing about this show is the respect it has for the characters in letting them be so so human. In that even though they often make choices with catastrophic results you can always see why they did what they did and it makes it really hard to blame them or villainize them for it.
It makes you feel more compassion for people in real life cause you know everyone is going through something.
For some shows Vi bringing Cait along without realizing there would be problems would feel like arificial stupidity for the sake of creating conflict. But but there's no way I see Vi thinking that far ahead, and even if she did how is that conversation with Cait supposed to go? Also based on what we've seen them share Cait just said "there's been an sttack, this is evidence" so Vi probably does not realize what role her little sister has grown into.
@@j.f.fisher5318 I think the circumstances and Vi's personality prevented her from taking the time to think about the reason why CupCait would be looking for her sister.
Seeing how the lanes changes, hearing that her sister is still alive and that she's working for Silco must have overwhelmed Vi. She's probably thinking about a thousand things.
She's also impulsive, she acts first and thinks about the consequences of her actions later.
I'm not surprised she didn't think about it.
Jynx ruins things directly by what she does always but is not entirely her fault or her responsibility if you look to the whole context. Hear me out... The only one that tells Powder she is capable is and supported her as a child was Vi, while the entire group of siblings constantly dismissed her, and she is traumatized because she lost all her parents at a young age. Interestingly, Vi is closer to Vander than Jynx, so Vi feels like Vander is like a close father, but Jynx only had Vi at that age, and Vi even though she tried to support her as best as she could was still a child not able to heal the profound wounds she had, because she also was not healed. Vi took her out to do stuff at a very young age when she wasn´t ready, she told her you are ready and when Vander was in danger she was not ready... and that mistake is why Vi feels guilty about it, because she rejected her and blamed her without accepting her own responsibility into what happened, Jynx went alone to try to save them to prove herself to Vi desperately to feel worthy again. However, it is not entirely Vi´s fault either, because she wasn´t mature enough to handle Powder in a healthier way, and the way of living they had demanded that they learned to survive in that hostile environment and rebel to opression, so she thought that encouraging Powder at a young age was of their best interest. Later, those wounds grow more beause of the trauma of having caused the death of her siblings and Silco didn´t help her to heal either. So, indirectly, the creation of Jynx is a consequence of the opression of the people of Zawn. Is more a result of the social context than the fault of two girls.
I would like to point out that the saying "blood is thicker than water" is the reverse of it's original meaning, originally being the expanded form of "the blood formed in the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb, suggesting soldiers were closer to their "brothers in arms" than their mothers
Yup, I'm aware of that, but I use the trope of water representing non-family and blood representing family. So you can choose blood over water or water over blood. Why the old saying has reversed it's meaning in colloquial speech, I couldn't say... 🤷🏼♀️ Probably just normal language development (like how the positive word "terrific" derives from the quite opposite "terror"... Conversely, horrific is not positive 🤷🏼♀️)
I've never really thought about it, but Caitlyn gets "left behind" by Vi at least as many times as Jinx does. In episode 5 when she goes after Sevika alone, in episode 7 when the Firelights take her away, in episode 7 again when she goes back for Jinx, and in episode 8 after the meeting with the council. And every time Caitlyn reacts the complete opposite to Jinx. She shows up to save Vi after the first one (with no collateral damage) and then quickly and vocally forgives her for leaving, tries to take responsibility and give herself up to protect Vi after the second, and for the last two she is understanding and doesn't try to stop Vi from going no matter how much she wants her to stay
Excellent point, I hadn’t looked at it like that! The difference is that Caitlyn doesn’t feel the rejection as harshly (at least in the beginning) as Jinx who feels betrayed. On the other hand the fact that Caitlyn returns and forgives is rather brave considering the fact that Vi is a basically a stranger to her (at least in the beginning) 😍
@@tildaowen Yeah, I had never considered it before, but I think it's another subtle parallel/contrast the writers very deliberately included. Cait reacts the way Vi probably wishes Jinx would, not seeing her mistakes as a betrayal but understanding/forgiving her/taking some of the responsibility off her shoulders/showing care about Vi's well-being (something we don't really see much from Jinx? Even after Vi gets knocked out and kidnapped, Jinx's biggest concern is whose fault it is, not whether Vi is okay)
But the difference in their reactions, at least in part, is likely a reflection of their upbringing. Jinx had a childhood full of family and friends who she lost horrifically, while Cait had a more lonely childhood with no real friends and a pretty strained relationship with her parents, so she's never really had anyone and then lost them... at least until now. It'll be interesting to see how things might change in season 2
(Edit to add this thought: I will refrain lol but there's probably a whole essay that I could write about the cognitive dissonance/disillusionment Vi must go through, from episode 1 where she sees the enforcers as these terrifying, merciless monsters and her sister as this pure, kind soul she needs to protect... up until the final episode where her sister is now the terrifying, merciless monster and the pure, kind soul Vi needs to protect from her is an enforcer)
@aranthur Yeah, I agree, Caitlyn and Jinx’s nature is quite different, but it’s their upbringing that really sets them apart. Vi and Jinx have both been severely traumatised, but while Vi has been isolated in prison longing for connection, Jinx has had a connection to a master manipulator and megalomaniac, who has groomed her into a twisted version of Powder. The mental illness has always been there in Jinx, but Silco made it much worse… Sad!
One of the things that's stuck in my head is the coldly murderous antipathy on Jinx's face in the tiny cut in the Enemy video when Powder does the finger gun at the backs of the enforcers. I feel that her level of hatred of _all_ enforcers is literally black/white 100% as intense as if any given enforcer was personally the one who killed their parents.
I'm 100% sure "Liar" on the bridge is toward Vi. I read it as borderline black/white thinking. She just can't see shades of meaning in between.
Yeah, I agree, part of her mental disorder is to see everything in black and white!
@@tildaowensomething I realized just now is Jinx has an extremely interesting love triangle too - Vi and Silco both love her, but one loves her for the innocent girl she was and is afraid of her monstrous side, while the other loves her for her monstrous potential and sees her innocence as a liability.
@@j.f.fisher5318 Oh, absolutely! And in the Tea party scene, they're fighting over her, despite being tied up at each end of the table...
"Almost lovers" hurts my soul
Why is that? They're in love but not lovers yet (well, unless you're old fashioned)...
@@tildaowen it hurts my soul too. It is probably because we wish they were lovers though they aren’t.
@@GummyDaCow aha, that makes sense! The desired goal, just out of reach... 💔
That filled a hole in my Violyn heart ❤💙
I'm glad it did! 😊
I'm pretty sure Jinx heard Vi and Caitlyn on the bridge.. why else would she make a cupcake in the tea party scene with the arcane gemstone on top of it? Almost like mocking Caitlyn in multiple ways.
Honestly these two are a mirror of Vander and Silco.. Vander couldn't take it upon himself to kill Silco since they were brothers, and his view became twisted and he became a crime lord of Zaun, pushing his beliefs of making it an independent nation while Vander settled down and took care of the orphans from their battle with Piltover. Now that Vander influenced Violet and Silco influenced Jinx, it's the same story of twisted beliefs and constant violence between Zaun and Piltover with Violet and Jinx.. but the question is, will Violet have the same outlook Vander did towards Silco when it comes to Jinx, or will she take a different route?
I thought about the Cupcake on the table quite a bit and see two possibilities for where the heck Jinx heard that nickname. One, of course, is the bridge although she had to zoom in to even see them clearly, so I'm not sure whether she could have heard it or not. Also Vi isn't speaking loud bc these are private words and I doubt that even Ekko could hear them clearly. The other one would be that maybe before kidnapping Caitlyn Jinx followed her beforehand and heard the "breakup"- conversation between the two lovebirds. Maybe she waited for her sister to leave, so she could kidnap Caitlyn without interruption.
Aaagh, I want season 2!!!!!! Even though our hearts will be broken so many times (most probably). I want Violyn, I want Jinx to find some kind of peace, I want to see the conflict between Piltover and Zaun unfold. I. want. ARCANE!
You think Vi will kill Jinx? What would Jinx have to do to be put down by her own sister? 😢
I honestly can't determine but.. that's still a possibility. Jinx is lethal, she's smart, great shot, can build anything she puts her mind to, and now with being infused with Shimmer, she strength could rival Violets if it came to an all out brawl but, she would use it strategically. I feel like Violet needing the shimmer medicine when she was stabbed by Sevika was a foreshadow for Violet having to do the same to rival Jinx@@mjbakermd414
It's hard to say how Jinx heard Caitlyn's nickname, it could be on the bridge or perhaps she's following them, listening in like she did with Silco at the Vander statue... And speaking of Vander, I agree with your take on a parallel between Jinx and Vi and Vander and Silco. Will be further developed in season 2 if Warwick is indeed Vander (as I've heard on the grapevine...)
Jinx is definitely spying on them, like she does with Silco at the Vander statue!
Yes, the new video is here! Great analysis, as usual. To think they packed this much drama in one love triangle in, what, five episodes? And they're just getting started.
I'm interested in seeing Caitlyn's character arc in season 2. So far she has been one of the most clearheaded of characters, but I suspect she will lose some of that stability. This may be projection, but I imagine she will retreat inward. She may stop talking to Vi just to focus on dealing with the aftermath. Whether it's caring for her grieving father or mitigating the damage to Piltover, she will make herself busy. But I don't see her talking to anyone about her own grief, her struggles, or her overwhelming guilt. How do you explain why you didn't take out the sociopath who blew up the city council + your own mother when you had the chance? The only person who could possibly understand is Vi, but Vi could easily become a subconscious scapegoat for Caitlyn's anger at Jinx, and Vi probably wouldn't even blame her. I see a lot of muddied emotions in Caitlyn's future. It will be fascinating (and devastating) to see how she deals with them.
Also, I demand a show down between Jinx and Caitlyn. I want to see their fighting and thinking styles on full display in 1v1 combat.
Thank you so much! Ooh, I agree, I'm really interested in seeing where they take Caitlyn. Because she doesn't just become sheriff and then barrels on, trying to bring Jinx to justice... I think you may be on to something when you say, "But I don't see her talking to anyone about her own grief, her struggles, or her overwhelming guilt. How do you explain why you didn't take out the sociopath who blew up the city council + your own mother when you had the chance? The only person who could possibly understand is Vi, but Vi could easily become a subconscious scapegoat for Caitlyn's anger at Jinx, and Vi probably wouldn't even blame her. I see a lot of muddied emotions in Caitlyn's future. It will be fascinating (and devastating) to see how she deals with them." Caitlyn will be SO emotionally muddled in season 2! So much guilt, regret and anger in her! As I've mentioned in my characterisation of her, she has trouble speaking about her own emotions, but I think she has to have a verbal showdown with Vi. Both about their budding feelings for each other, but also Jinx and her bombing of the council (yes, there will be blame of some kind). I think it'll be SO romantic and SO devastating...
Caitlyn will definitely also want a showdown with Jinx, but I'm not sure Vi will let it happen... But it could be so much fun to see!!!
Vi ... is just so sweet I love her!
Well, being Caitlyn, how could you not? 😉 😍
Watching your videos is really helping the wait for season 2 feel more bearable, can’t wait to see how everything unfolds with these three and really enjoy hearing your thoughts on their dynamic.❤
Thanks a lot! That was my intention, so I'm glad it's working 😊 I'm impatient for season 2 (obviously), but I'm also glad they're taking their time...
@@tildaowen when is season 2 coming out
@@ugookoro5520 Don't know, but Riot Games recently told their Chinese shareholders that the fourth quarter of 2024 included a premiere of Arcane. No official announcement yet, though...
Ok
I just finished the first season of Arcane the other day, and I cannot recount a single piece of fictional media that has ever had such an immediate and emotional impact on me. It's simply one of the best things I've ever had the good fortune to see, and it's a shame I waited so long to see it.
Needless to say, withdrawal hit me mere minutes after episode 9 concluded, and with season two temporally distant I've been fulfilling that desire by watching analytical videos breaking down the inner workings of the series. I know many have said it, and I too am glad to have stumbled across your channel, not only due to the depth of your analyses, but because of your specific focus on what I found to be one of the most compelling developments of the series: The relationship between Vi and Caitlyn.
I've never considered myself one to cheer for fictional romantic relationships, but there is something so incredibly endearing about those two that that consideration of myself inverted overnight; it's an appreciation that's become all the more potent thanks to your series, and I just wanted to commend you on your videos and express that I look forward to whatever content you create going forward.
Thank you so much! 😊 I'm almost envious of you starting out, lol! So much is even greater to watch on the second and third rewatch. And though I'm very glad you like my videos 😍, if you haven't checked out Stop Me Oh and Schnee, you definitely should! Enjoy 😊
I realized the other day, while watching yet another Arcane reaction video 😃, that every time Jinx/Powder tried to save Vi's life, it cost Jinx/Powder other loved ones in her life.
Also, in this video, when Jinx has a gun to Caitlyn's head, Vi says that they can go away together. Jinx's reaction is of shock, that she hadn't even considered that possibility. I think it speaks volumes as to Jinx's mental instability.
Good job on the video. Quite a lot of in depth analysis.
Thanks a lot! Yes, Jinx's horizon is very narrow (primarily due to Silco), so she mostly sees things in black and white, win or lose, live or die, so she doesn't consider third options, like leaving town with Vi... And yes, you're right, Jinx's death toll is high, simply for "helping out" Vi!
Hey hey. It is confirmed that season 2 will be terrifying. Vi's dissociative disorder is worrying me highly. I don't want to watch. I really am scared for all three of them.
Vi's mental health is unstable. She has been arrested for NOTHING and she has no idea who she is or where she is.
Poor pookie. I love her so much. 🥺🥺🥺😪
Most nights, I come and re watch this video and understand every single word more deeply. 💔
Thanks, I'm glad you like the video 😊 And yes, I'm very scared for them all in season 2! 😱😭
@@tildaowen Yeah. 😭😭😭
Just wants to hug Caitlyn and Vi 😪
I would LOVE for you to dig into some more colour theory in Arcane!! I haven’t seen much online about how colour theory is used to show themes / story lines in the show ♥️
Thank you! I have considered it, but it would be quite the undertaking... I think Stop Me Oh has done a video about it at some point?
Btw, have you seen Moulin Rouge? It uses the same colours, red and blue, as contrast in that film, though not with quite the same symbolic meanings as Arcane. It's magnificently done (as in Arcane)
Your voice is so gorgeous! And I can never get enough of your Arcane content!
I wonder sometime what would have happened if Episode 3 had never happened? Violet is about 15, in the coming years she'd have probably had her own relationship growing up, and as that would have been with another woman, would Powder still have got jealous? We see her with serious trauma even before the terrible events at the factory, and there's that odd feeling that she would have always turned out like Jinx at least to some degree.
Thank you! 😍
Yes, I guess with all the focus on Jinx's obvious trauma, we forget how traumatised Vi also is. No wonder she mistrusts anything good happening to her "wasn't meant to be" 😭
I stopped agonizing over the wait when I stumbled upon one of the best-written, true-to-character, and complex stories I’ve ever read that just happens to be Caitvi fan fiction (like, to the point where I’m worried about how canon will compare hehe). I also love listening to analyses from you, Schnee, and TB Skyen. You all offer such unique and thoughtful perspectives. I hadn’t considered the saturation of Cait’s eyes correlating to changes in her character during different points of the plot. I guess it’s not too far fetched if I think about the other ways details about the eyes have been used to mark important events in the story (Jinx’s transformation, the way characters’ eyes lose their shine as when they die). I’ll have to pay more attention to that on the next rewatch.
"I stumbled upon one of the best-written, true-to-character, and complex stories I’ve ever read that just happens to be Caitvi fan fiction"
(blinks, looks at that line, looks at you)
Share?
For one: Yes, please share. For the other: A little detail about eyes in Arcane that I noticed, I don't know, maybe on my third rewatch is that when Vi is stabbed her eyes get darker, like there's a shadow upon or in them. Loved that detail ever since, bc it's such a great way of showing how life slowly leaves Vi in that moment.
Any author? Wich platflorm? I want to read about these characters.
Lol! I'm like the rest: please do share! 😁
Sorry, guys! Notification got buried. The series is "All the King's Horses," by Paxbanana on Archive of our Own. Caitvi/Violyn was the draw for me but it truly is a well-rounded story and does a great job incorporating the LoL lore.
Please read it so I have more people to gush over this gem with. It deserves way more attention than it's gotten!
YOOO A NEW TILDA VIDEO JUST DROPPED!! you make the best analyses of this show i swear
THANK YOU! 🤘😎🤩🕺
Thank you so much for this video! It's medicine!! Exactly what I needed to soften the agony until Arcane 2 arrives... ☺
Thank you, you're very welcome 😊 Just 11 months now!
Tilda, you were so real for the ‘looking in Caitlyns way’ comment 💀😂 I loved this, always love a good analysis especially when it comes to my fav shows and hyperfixations!
He he, well I like to include my personal hyperfixations in there, because I do have a hard time focusing with Caitlyn's eyes looking at me all the time 😂🤭
I've said it before but I LOVE your videos. Thanks for putting out a new one!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! 😍
Yay! I’ve been waiting for your next Arcane video. I love your deep dives involving Caitlin and Vi. Makes the wait for season 2 just tolerable. Thank you 🙂
Thanks a lot! 😘
Perfect timing on this video. I was just thinking the other day I am due to rewatch this series...again. Love the long format and all the details. I'm going to have to watch your video again as well. Thanks for this. Have an amazing day!
Thanks a lot, I'm glad my videos further a rewatch, it's always worth it! 😊
Glad you’re back with a new video!
Yay! Enjoy 😊
So happy to see an update from you!
And yes, oh my god yes, the agony of endless wait for season 2…
Thank you for sharing more of your insights and keeping the Arcane up and running for us 😌
Thanks a lot! I'm betting it'll be worth the wait even if it is hard! 😊
I love your arcane analysis videos, totally agree with your take on it. love the content!
Thanks a lot! 🤩
gosh your Arcane analysis videos are so meticulous and insightful. i adore how much you love these two just as much as i love their pairing. i hope you're going to make a video about The Dragon Prince's new seasons! i loved your Rayllum video so much!
Thank you so much! 😊 About Rayllum, I'm very underwhelmed by season 4 and 5. Disappointed actually, they skipped quite a few important parts (like Amaya and Janai going from holding hands to getting married!) and basically ruined the journey Rayla and Callum were on. So at the moment I have no plans for more Dragon Prince videos, sorry! That might change if seasons 6-7 are better, though... More Arcane videos are in the works, btw (just might be a few months...)
Thank you so much! I love watching your analysis’ videos and this is another fantastic addition. The dynamic between these 3 characters is so intriguing to watch and carries with it so much of the conflict of the world around them. I’m so very interested in how they will resolve these difficult choices and differences between the characters or what new challenges they will each run into. Thank you again for a fantastic video!
Thanks a lot, you're very welcome! 😊 Yes, it will be interesting to see how they progress, I'm sure the writers have some surprises for us! 😬😍
Damn!! You're ideas and the way you present you're points are soo goooooddd! Don't know why this video doesn't have a million likes.
Thanks a lot 😍 Feel free to share! 😘
I thoroughly enjoyed this deep dive analysis Tilda, thank you!! No other show in recent years has gripped me like Arcane. The wait for season 2 is painfully real.
Thanks, you're welcome 😊 I feel just like you, Arcane has me in a vice grip (in a good way) 😍
Woohoo, Tilda uploaded, can't wait to watch 😊
Thank you 🤩
Another great analysis video, outlining the depth and complexity of the characters and the difficulties they face internally and externally at the various stages of their lives. The sorrow of their predicaments and fleeting joys. Thank you for your consistency and entertainment. Not much I could say that you haven't already voiced by yourself.
Thanks a lot! I feel what you're feeling, I'm glad my videos resonate! 😊
This is an incredible video with editing and flow of the breakdown
Thank you so much! 😊 I've really worked hard at making that side better since my first videos... They take longer to make now, though 🤷🏼♀️
I love your Arcane videos! I would agree with you on there being so many parallels between Caitlyn and Jinx I've been very into the parallels between those two. And even though you only briefly talked about the parallels between the two in this video, you had such a lovely perspective :)
Thank you 😊 Briefly? I thought I talked at length, lol! 😂
i watched all your video essays this week and i loved them so much!! i cant wait for season 2 💙💙
Thank you so much! And me neither 😍
Wellllllllcome back, my beloved meditation-er. I will definitely have a few of my best sleeps for the next couple of weeks, I am pretty sure about that. Thank you so much for not leaving us hanging so long. God knows how much I've missed you and your voice as much as I Arcane.
Thank you, you're so sweet 😘 I'm glad I can put you to sleep, lol!
You always make amazing videos.
Thanks 😘
Yesss you are back🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yasss, I'm back! 😎
I love your videos, there so detailed and you have such a nice voice to listen too❤
Thank you so much! 😊
That was an amazing analysis!
Thanks a lot!
I love hearing you talk about Arcane and Caitlyn and Vi. Just like all your others, this was a fantastic video. Thanks for making it.
Thanks a lot! I just love them 😊
Once again, you see things, and notice things in Arcane: League of Legends, that no else sees or notices, and explain beautifully. I love every bit of your videos. I hope we get to see more of your videos. And I understand your frustration and impatient about Arcane: League of Legends season 2 taking a long time to not show yet. But patience is a virtue. So, be calm and patient, and do what you love to keep yourself busy and distracted.
Thanks a lot, you've been there from the start, so thank you for all your interesting thoughts on my videos (and for watching them, of course). I'm trying to be patient, because I agree that time is in favour of making season 2 as good as season 1... It's hard, because I love it so much, but I can wait 😍
this is a fantastic video, very well done! thank you
Thank you so much, I’m glad you liked it!
As much i i really need season 2 to come out, id rather them take their time to perfect it and not rush. Thankfully though videos like yours help getting back into that world till then and see it in so much more depth
Thank you, that was the idea 😊 I think season 2 will be better for the wait, but that knowledge only makes the wait a little easier, lol! 😏
one critique i will make is that jinx gestures for vi to leave on the bridge when vi takes cait away. you can see her make a little face/gesture before vi, w tears in her eyes, goes away w cait. she WANTED vi to leave in that moment, as she had already felt betrayed by her again.
edit: also, vi loves jinx the exact same way she loves powder bc jinx IS powder. i believe the reason she says nothing is the absolute shock and possibly confusion she feels. she feels guilty and scared. not to mention, nothing vi could have said in that moment would have changed jinx’s mind. vi has been trying to talk to her this entire time, but jinx’s paranoia doesn’t allow her genuine words to get through.
Very good points about why Vi doesn't speak 👍 She loves Jinx, but loving doesn't alleviate everything, so yes she feels powerless to change anything, because as you say nothing she has said so far, made any real difference... And she's still tied up! Her maneuverability is very limited...
I also agree that Jinx's expression/sneer on the bridge tells Vi that she won't be able to speak/reason with her in that moment... Jinx has made up her mind at that point!
Yay more of arcane ❤❤❤
YAY! 🤩
i swear, your videos are the best
Thank you so much 😘
Your analysis is really very interesting, especially concerning the parallels between Cait and Jinx, which, in the light of your video, seem rather obvious.
Obviously, there are a lot of stakes in the next season and I hope the producers manage to interweave the plots as well as they did in season 1 because it was brilliant.
Regarding the love triangle, obviously a choice will have to be made. And the teaser gives us the stakes: whatever the choice, it will be heartbreaking. Cait will surely be in a vengeful mood against Jinx, and Vi, in her duty as a sister, will certainly continue to want to protect Jinx.
Vi always chose her family because she never had anything else and Vander instilled in her a sense of responsibility and sacrifice.
She feels responsible for Powder's transformation into Jinx, so it's her duty to deal with the problem she's become. And it will still be the case in S2. So yes she chooses her sister in season 1 despite her certain affection for Cait, but it's also because at that moment and until the last episode (and even then) she thinks that Powder is still there (and it's isn't completely wrong, until she accidentally kills Silco).
No matter what happens, no matter who or why, these three protagonists suffer the events. Every choice is just an illusion. Everything brings them back to confront each other and it's as frustrating as it is exciting.
I can't wait to see what awaits us.
Thanks, and I agree both very exciting and very frustrating at the same time! 🫣
Thank you for more Content, it helps tide us over a bit I think! :p I really hope as much time is spent perfecting next season as in the first. This was a great look into the dynamics between the three. I've always thought their "love triangle" was interesting, especially the way Jinx processes relationships. And having Caitlyn and Jinx be somewhat antitheses of each other yet similar is such a cool concept with the way they're portrayed visually and character-wise. I wasn't familiar with League lore before Arcane but I'm eager to see just how much of Arcane's story is going to stay true to League canon, especially considering how champions like Jinx are so classically recognizable the way they're depicted there. I guess it still could pan out differently within Arcane. I want everyone to make amends and be happy eventually lmao, but I kinda doubt it, sadly. At least some exciting parts of the original lore will probably happen! I appreciate all the CaitVi material and breakdowns and bits of humor too, these videos are always fun to watch!
Thank you! I don't know anything really about league lore other than what people have said in my comments, so I just focus on where the events in Arcane lead me... I want everyone to make amends and be happy too, lol, but yes, season 1 tells me NO to that... 😭
36:05 Thanks! this does help. Keep talking about this show until the next season come out please.
Thanks, I'll see what I can do 😊
haha, I can relate to the agony of the wait. thanks for another great video!
Thanks a lot! I'm trying to be patient, but I'm just so psyched for season two!
I was blown away from the start how good this show manages characters and gender.
Already one of my all time favorites ❤
And thanks for your thoughts on this triangle.... really enjoyed it very much 🌞
I totally agree, best show in ages! And thanks 😊
Girl the new trailer is out. We need u out here 😊
Working on it... Never been quick about these things 😏
Thanks a lot sevika
Yeah, she did a number on Jinx!
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But wait , although off hottopic, jinx didnt wish to kill silco , it was rather the consequence of shooting with a machine gun with no thinking ? , forcing the idea of her wearing her emotions on sleves and all
I agree, her intention wasn't to kill Silco, it was to protect Vi. She doesn't choose deliberately, but instinctively. Which also means Vi is more important to her than Silco, her feelings for Vi are buried deeper. She does shoot before thinking things through, but in order to avoid Silco shooting Vi, she has to use a weapon. So sad!
@@tildaowen
"It wasn't her intention to protect Violet. Despite the bullet passing by Violet's head, Jinx doesn't even check to see if Violet is hurt after she realizes she's hit Silco."
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After Jinx shoots Silco, she's shown clearly in that triggered mindless instinctual state like in episode 4 on the ship. Then after a couple breaths you see the exact moment her brain kicks in to full awareness again and... instant regret. Jinx didn't chose to kill Silco, but in a triggered state she instinctually shot at the threat of the sound of the pin drop in Silco's gun.
If it had been Violet who fired the gun, Jinx would have killed Violet. this has been confirmed somewhere. Jinx was not instinctively intended to protect Violet.hThat's entirely the reason she then chooses the Jinx chair, yet again, she was a Jinx to her family.
There is no Powder, Jinx situation there, nor is it a conscious decision. It's just tragedy. Once again, Powder unwittingly killed her family. But this time she killed someone who loved her perfectly. This is probably Jinx's breaking point.
I love your videos and they just keep getting better and better! Just so you know, if you wanted to make a longer video its totally fine with me 😀. You mentioned the scene with Jinx up in the tower when she says "she won't do that to me, not again". That's been bugging me, but you clarified it for me. This entire video is just packed with everything good.
Your videos are so good! I cant thank you enough, for the time and effort you put into them for ALL of us to enjoy. ❤
Thank you so much, you're very welcome! I'll see what I can do... 😘
I have an idea for a short for you. Of course, you might have already thought of it, but just in case. My idea is of all the scenes of Vi and Caitlyn looking at each other. My lesbian heart. I just love them. ❤️ Anyhow, just a thought.
@@vesuzious2768 Thanks for suggesting ideas, I'll consider everything 😊 But what you suggest sounds like an edit... So in order not to make that, what do you think the angle should be (the question)? What would I analyse that hasn't been done in several Violyn edits?
@tildaowen give me a few days to see if I can come up with something. I'm already thinking. 🤔
@@vesuzious2768 Thanks 😊👍
The shooting comparison is interesting. Not one I've heard/thought of before.
I thought of it while making my Caitlyn characterisation, how opposite they were while operating their firearms and how much we could interpret from it. And it fit quite nicely into this theory 😊
This has helped my withdrawal, thanks!
You're very welcome, that was the idea... 😊
I love this show and I love your deep analysis of the characters and their choices!! Can you make another love triangle video about jinx, silco and vi, pleeeeeease? I'd love to hear your thoughts about what's going on in jinx's life, head and heart ❤
Thanks a lot, you're very kind! Well, Vi and Caitlyn are much closer to my heart than Jinx, and since Silco is quite far down in my list, then I doubt I'll make such a video... Sorry! But we'll see when season 2 comes out! 😊
As usual, I love your perspectives. Thank you. I do think that Vi does make a conscious choice on the bridge the seconds before Jinx shoots to separate them (not convinced she was going for the kill or Caitlyn would have been shot). I think she also made a choice to agree with Ekko when the Boy Savior says, "GO!" Neither were thoughtful decisions, without influence, or easy ones. But she had agency, chose Caitlyn by action, and did not choose Jinx/Powder by word or action.
Thank you! And you have a point, of course Vi makes decisions on the bridge, and of course she has agency... She lets the situation, Ekko, Caitlyn's injury decide that she will see the gem and Caitlyn to safety. What I'm getting at, is that many people seem to think that she makes a choice favouring Caitlyn over Jinx here, and I don't believe she does. The circumstances are extreme, so she reacts to them in a sensible way imo, but she doesn't make her choice. She goes to the council after to get the council's help with Silco, because she saw him with his paws all over Jinx. When the council doesn't help she leaves Caitlyn immediately: she's no longer in danger, and Vi wants to keep her out of the coming aggression against Silco. At least, that's how I see it 😊
I absolutely love the Ekko - Jinx show down. I absolutely love yin yang, the counsel, what about us and the Vi & Jace team up. I get why the creators made those choices and I eagerly ate them up. But Vi choosing to let Ekko fight (hurt & maybe kill?) her sister rather than stepping in with her sister and letting Ekko help Caitlyn always struck me as odd. It's the only conflict where she didn't lead with her face. She made the choice not to lead her family (Ekko & her sister). It wasn't the safest thing for Ekko or her sister (or even Caitlyn) for Vi to walk away. It wasn't the easiest thing to do given the chaos of a fight and the coming enforcers. And it doesn't seem the logical choice given her loathing for Silco, her mistrust for the council, her sister's obvious mental health, and her relative indifference to the gem. To me, it feels like a choice of the heart -- one of Caitlyn over her sister. But I appreciate your view as well. ☺ @@tildaowen
On the teaser, Cait talking to VI, VI talking to Jinx, Jinx talking to Caitlyn, Perfect circle, which clearly shows the dynamics of this trio. The strength of Jinx's words, "It had to be you," shows that the dynamic is no longer just between Vi/Jinx but that Caitlyn is an integral part of this relationship.
Caitlyn sees it as an alchemist who believes the two people cannot exist together. That they are the two sides of the same coin and that the coin must stop spinning.
Vi desperately wants to preserve the two people she loves the most; she wants to regain control.
Jinx ultimately transfers her obsession with her lost relationship with her sister to a new relationship, her hatred for Caitlyn, "It had to be you." Almost a declaration, but in hatred.
Yeah, it's a perfect circle, a perfect triangle... None of them are square! (ugh, lol, sorry, couldn't resist!)
So you think when Jinx says "it had to be you", she means Caitlyn? Interesting take, I usually think it will be Vi, but this is definitely plausible too!
@@tildaowen I'm quite convinced she's not talking to Vi.
"I'm glad it's you", okay I could have told myself she's talking to Vi, but why add "had to be you"? I find that it doesn't match.
And I would actually find it more interesting if it were Jinx talking to Caitlyn :D
@@Jane-oh6gk well, if rumours are true, it could be Vander, the clip of Singed, definitely suggests him coming back in some form...
I don't think "it had to be you" rules out Vi, for Jinx family is what matters most, so she's the only one who can really get through to her... But I guess it could be either of the three (or someone else entirely)
@@tildaowenI can't wait to see season 2! Just a few more months to go :)
Oh wow. You're still making these!
Yup, even though I said I wouldn't 😁 But I had to do something to entertain myself in the wait for season 2...
Love the video.😍Of course many points were already discussed, but still this new arrangement is very entertaining and surely shortens the waiting for season 2. Speaking of season 2: I must warn you that Riot are masters of misleading. In the trailers for season 1 they managed to even trick the lore pros with their editing of voice lines and scenes. While many things turned out as suspected they also laid some false trails. Having this is mind I strongly believe that even those few words we heard in the announcement trailer for season 2 are maybe not what they seem. It is too obvious imo that Violyn and Jinx are talking to eachother here. Caitlyn's line is pretty clear I guess, but Vi's line can be from various scenarious where she is willing to be the protector for someone and draw the "punches" towards herself (this is simply how Vi is). Jinx`line though I would take a bet it is not for Vi or Caitlyn at all. My fav option would be Ekko here (we all saw the look in his eyes when discovered Powder in Jinx on the bridge, right?). Especially since we got some raw info pieces from the makers regarding what to expect in season 2. As I am not sure if you would see this as spoiling I will not go into detail here. But if you are interested in more infos and maybe also some stuff from League lore of the characters you know how to contact me.. ;-) I could even imagine a plot line where Violyn and Jinx need to join forces against a bigger threat (Yes, Jinx is not necessary the biggest threat to P&Z!😜)
Thanks a lot for the quality entertainment. ❤
Thanks a lot! And yes, I know how to reach you :-) And I'm sorry for never getting around to replying to your excellent email about League lore, etc. But it completely slipped my mind. I guess League of Legends and their short videos and lore don't really float my boat, like Arcane does... But I so dig how much you got out of it!
Anyway, I agree that the teaser trailer is just that: a teaser. So much can be inferred my what is said, and we have no visuals at all to back up anything... So much is going to happen in season 2 also with Jayce, Viktor, Ekko, Mel (if she survived) , Embessa, etc. that it will logically impact whatever is going on between the three characters presented in the teaser trailer. The teaser just fits really well with my interpretation, and I seriously doubt we'll get around Vi making some kind of choice about how to proceed with Jinx and Caitlyn. My guess is: it will be sad!!! Also because, like you said, "she is willing to be the protector for someone and draw the "punches" towards herself (this is simply how Vi is)." Nicely put, Vi is like that
@tildaowen Hey. It is completely fine if you prefer to stay away from League and its lore. 👍
The makers did an amazing job in making Arcane a great experience for both League veterans and newbies. As someone who is a little familiar with lore (far from being a pro though 😂) I had a lot of eastereggs (lines spoken, objects, etc) and reveals that got me very exited. But it also has some restrictions as simply knowing who is a champion in League tells me who is very, very likely having a plot armor for example. It is still not 100% save, but it tells me a lot about the ending of season 1for example.
It also reveals something about where the story might go as for those who are champions there are stories available that are still in there future. This doesn't mean that we know how they get there though as Arcane also takes its freedom to change things compared to the canon lore. That is why it is considered an alternate universes that is very close to canon lore.
As a newby you have the privilege to go completely blind into the story while missing some (many😜) innuendos .
The teaser is a great example. For you it reveals 3 characters for season 2 and their possible storylines . For someone who is into the lore it actually reveals 4 characters (with 4 voicelines) and whole new possible plot that would most likely also influence our "love triangle". And it would also have more options for the main cast to suffer.. 😥
But even without diving into the complex League lore you might want to consider watching the documentary about the making of Arcane called Bridging the Rift on youtube . It adds a lot to the show imo, but yes it will also reveal for some characters that they are League champions.
The second thing is a reddit Q&A with the showrunners of Arcane where they tease a little on what to expect in season 2 wirhout getting to specific. There is one comment that will leave each Violyn fan both overly exited AND scared. 😂 Check it out if you like to:
www.reddit.com/r/arcane/comments/yp9d4b/s1_spoilers_were_christian_linke_and_alex_yee/
Apart of this if you would like to read the background to a specific Arcane character (if they are champions☝️) let me know and I will give my best to answer it.😉
Finally: I read comments hoping for a
collab with Ola from StopMeOh.
If this would be something you are interested in I might be able to help with building a connection there as I am supporting Ola on her League journey as well. 😉
@@masterofpuppets7586 You are so kind! Thanks for all the info 😊👍 I have heard of the Warrick (Vander?) character revealed in the teaser, and yes, "it had to be you" could very well be to a warped Vander "saved" by Singed (much like Jinx herself).
I have also heard of the hints given by the showrunners about season 2 (Jubi Made This has filled me in already), so yes I fear Violyn happening only to end right after 😭
About the colab with Ola, we'll see, because I'm not sure how we could make it work. Also because she's a full time youtuber, I'm just doing it sometimes for fun... But we do have lots in common too 😊
Jinx was shooting at neither Cait nor Vi. If she wanted to kill one of them, she would. She is physically separating them with the threat of the bullets.
Well, of course I can't know for sure, but do you really think Jinx's shooting is that calm and precise in that moment? Yes, she's good at shooting, we've seen Powder do that (both in the past and on the flashback on the bridge against Ekko), but all her shooting we've seen her doing as Jinx (in the airship and when she goes against Firelights with Vi) hasn't been precise at all (her bombs have been precise, though!). So her being this precise when she's so affected by her emotions seems unlikely to me... She shoots at problems without considering the consequences, imo. 😊
I will just comment I am really happy to hear the news that it seems that we will have Arcane S2 next year!!
Yes, I just saw that too! Nice to have a time to aim for, but waiting for over a year will be hard! But it was expected, and better the long wait than a rushed production!
This was so interesting and intertaining
Thank you so much! 😊
I'm a new Arcane fan so luckily my wait for s2 hasn't been as long as everyone else's. 😂 I looooooove these three characters so much! Especially Jinx. You did a great job here without being reductionist to overly favor the characters you like best (I see this kind of thinking a lot in fandoms...it's such a disservice to a such a nuanced show like this).
Some things i thought about during the video. 1) interesting how Powder's firearms display as a child involved very precise shooting, vs. as a young woman where she just sprays bullets everywhere. 2) The scene where Vi sees her mom instead of Caitlyn. Vi has spent most of her life without a mother figure of any kind, and i think she misses that feminine nurturing care even though she doesn't realize it. She's spent the last how ever many years in prison getting beaten instead of receiving any kind of care. So when she receives that care from Caitlyn it impacts her right down in her soul. 3) I think Silco enforced the idea in Jinx's head that she can only have a close bond with one person for YEARS before Sevika says "she's replaced you" and that's why that sentence took such a deep hold. He was desperate that no one come between him and Jinx.
4) I'm super worried about my girl...considering the themes and tone of the show i am having a hard time seeing her come out of it alive. Especially considering (what little i know about) her in-game character...it seems more like a break from the game to redeem her (like to have her "turn good") than to kill her (assuming that killing game characters isn't off the table). The only alternative i can see is a situation where Vi dies to save her but...that's almost worse idk I'm goin to go cry now.
Thanks a lot! I really like the thoughts that you list: 1) yes, I've thought about that too, how Powder's trauma seems to eradicate her early sharp shooting abilities. Her bullets all messy like her emotions later on. 2) I agree with you, I do think Vi is impacted all the way to her soul to have someone take care of her like Caitlyn
@@tildaowen I'm probably overly pessimistic haha. For some reason whenever I try to predict the ending of high-stakes stories I just go straight to Death. It's like the "guess I'll die" meme but for my favorite fictional characters.
@@LindyLime The show is a tragedy, so I'm certain someone or more will die! It's just who, how and when that we speculate about. And speaking of death, they'll start season two by picking through the rubble of the council, so it'll both start and end with death (just like season 1...)
@@tildaowen oof my heart is not ready 💔
@@LindyLime Mine neither!
Love your voice ❤
Thanks 😘
Loooll totally agree that they Did Not Plan. Vi just wanted Piltover’s help eliminating Silco, and Caitlyn had the naive belief that once they identify the key criminal (Silco), he’d be brought to justice, the gemstone would be found, and the war situation can deescalate. They thought once they prove the case against Silco, all would surely be well and they didn’t do a single “what if” exercise. Shoulda listened to Mommy Kiramman.
My heart is in pieces that Cait’s last look at her mom was that “well done” nod. Ughhh the cruelty.
Yes, Cassandra was right! Caitlyn is going to torture herself over her last interactions with her mother 😭
Great video and analysis. Caitlyn and Vi are dope but i just love jinx. The last episode of season left me so empty, i can't wait for season 2
Thanks, I'm glad you like it 😊 So many of the characters in the show are super interesting and versatile, there's practically a favourite for everyone 😊
I think Vi actually doesnt love powder like she used to thats why she didnt speak in the last scene, she doesnt recognize her sister anymore
That's definitely part of it, she's horrified by what Powder has become and her own culpability in it!
Perfect timing! I'm just about to lay down to bed
Well, uh, sleep well...? 😉
@@tildaowen i did, I've now rewatched this video in a less tired state and I'm processing it now
@@veratoyer8027 Enjoy! 😊
@tildaowen I love all the Vi/Cait videos you've done and have watched them all....idk how many times.
AO said that there is going to be both a Vi/Cait moment we're gonna love, and a moment we're gonna hate in S2....... the anticipation might actually end me 🤣
Thank you so much! And I'm right where you are, eagerly awaiting while dreading the outcome 😍😬
I'M EARLY YOOO
Yay!
Damn it. Guess I need to make a looong breakfast break today.😉 So excited! 😊
He he, hope you had the time!
@@tildaowen Sometimes you just have to take the time.😉 It was sooo worth it. Thanks a lot. 😍 I actually meant to delete this comment after having written my "real" comment, but I was too blown away..😂
@@masterofpuppets7586 Thanks, all your comments are welcome 😊 I'll answer the other one soon too!
I found out about Arcane this year and what a great feeling it was! The character designs, the animation, the voice acting, the music, everything about it and it’s intense story is incredible! And these awesome videos peek my interest! Definitely makes this year start off great when watching it more than once haha. Can’t wait to watch more from you! 🩷💙
Thanks a lot, more coming but less frequently... I envy you just starting out with Arcane. It was a rather long rush for me (not over yet, really, but of course less powerful) ❤️
@@tildaowen I get to that point with some shows too. But there always will be another one around every corner! And don’t rush either! Take all the time you need! You got this! And thank you too! ❤️🙏
Miss your videos! Any plans to comment on the trailers/Annecy Vi scene, etc?
Thank you, yeah, real life has interfered, I’m afraid… So very, very busy with a new job! But I’m working on a short video about the trailer, so that’s something 😊 Might be a tick, though…
@@tildaowen no pressure! I’m patient 😀 just glad you are still planning on doing more videos
@@paulrobinson1458 oh, I definitely am, especially when season two comes out 😍
Crossover with StopMeOh when?
I would be all in on this! 🤩
That sounds interesting, but though we share a common interest and we seem to find/analyse many of the same things, our videos are made differently, so I'm not sure it would work... But hey, if she contacts me, I wouldn't say no! :-)
Weirdly the bridge has a meaning to these three is well, cant help but think it'll end like the beginning with a big fight on said bridge, maybe both sisters fighting then falling into the water (like vander/silco)
Aargh, that sounds like a terrible but reasonable ending 😭 Vi and Jinx on opposite sides, fighting like in the intro 🫣
I know it's been a couple years, but we need to be patient. The first season took six years to piece together and while they said it wouldn't be as long, I don't mind if it is because the last thing I want is for the quality to be sacrificed for our sake
Oh, I agree, I don't want them to either rush or cut out steps in order to please impatient viewers (or money men)... All I'm saying is that that I love the show so, so much that the wait is hard, really hard! But then I make these videos, and they help (and in a way also make it worse) 😊
That silence at the end, and the rocket shoots after, will concrete Vi's choice in my opinion, which showed the option she already chose, and watched the disaster together. Vi saw that Jinx ate Powder and picked the bones clean. If Vi killed Caitlyn back there and obliged Jinx' wishes, would anything be like just as before the catastrophy that took Vander away? "Kill x and y for me, if you love me, Powder.". A cold, toxic bargaining for "getting back" something as naive as Powder.
The trailer shows that Vi still wants to believe in Powder, somewhat. And now the cupcake wants Jinx' head on a platter? Things going "overcooked" I should say.
Things will definitely overcook in season 2, lol! But Vi's choice is not based on love only, she will go the extra mile for Jinx/Powder, because she feels responsible for her as a sister and as a cause for some of the trauma Powder has experienced. So she feels obligated to choose Powder. Vander has done a number on Vi, "It's on you!" he said. Vi will have such a hard time not doing what she feels she "ought to do". Tragic!
@@tildaowen And in all that chaos, she had an opportunity to feel a little bit good for herself like she relieved on Caitlyn's bed. Vander had a good heart, but he really dropped a heavy load on VI's shoulders (out of necessity, because she was the strongest, most resilient of the bunch, and was capable to carry it). Now everyone's making sure about giving the "everything is on you, VI" feeling to her.
Writers also making sure that we should feel sad for everyone in this show. Don't overcook the tall one, please :(
@@thndrr Yes, Caitlyn is so far the only one not adding to the weight on Vi's shoulders, actually as you say, relieving some of the pressure (no wonder Vi falls for her!), but that might change in season 2 😬🫣 I'm a big fan of Caitlyn's, and I'd hate to see her worsening, but I think if I had to choose who to spare from more hurt in season 2, it would be Vi. She's suffered enough! She deserves something good in her life, but I'm afraid it won't be happening 😭 I mean, I have complete faith that Vi and Caitlyn as lovers will happen, but I'm afraid it will end again just as quickly...
@@tildaowen But you wouldn't like an overcooked, burnt Caitlyn. What will you do if that happens?
A tragedy formed as an avalanche is coming, and we are paying for it. Literally. To Netflix... Uuh... Tadaa?..
@@thndrr oh no, I wouldn't want either Vi or Caitlyn overcooked. I wish them joy (and then cook Jinx a little extra until she pops... Sorry!)
I’m so worried for season 2…
Don't forget in-game voice lines hints that vi and jinx are now enemies
Me too, I worry a lot! And not having played the game, I tend not to take that into account, just what the show tells me. It might narrow my scope, but I just don't have the time nor interest to really delve into that... 😊
@@kevingame3198 how really?i’ve seen a comic lol made in which Jinx brought back Vi’s old toy to her (while obviously bombing half of the city)and they were still showing affection to each other you should really see it if you haven’t it’s on TH-cam
Got me thinking.
That's the idea 😊👍
Hey Tilda! I just wanted to recommend you this game called "The Walking Dead game" by The Teltale Games. I feel like you would like that game and it would be so great to see your analysis on that game series. Plus on last season of that game we can choose to have a lesbian relationship with the main character. Though relationships are not the main plot here but still its a pretty cool story game.
Anyways love your videos!
Thanks, I'm glad you like my videos 😊 And thanks for the recommendation, though I'm not sure I'll like it, primarily because I'm not into horror, zombies or jump scares. Tomb Raider has a few of those moments, and that's all I can take... But if the game isn't so scary, I might look into it (I'm playing Star Wars Jedi Survivor right now, it's awesome)
@@tildaowen Ah i see. And yep the game has a few jumpscare moments. Though I found the game more sad rather than scary because it got me hooked on the characters and some of em has some tragic ending. I think I heard of star wars Jedi survivors before but didn't try it, sounds fun 🤔
@@nishattasnim7651 Thanks again for the recommendation, it was sweet of you. I also really like games that have a good story, interesting characters and lots of puzzles. And I'm a Star Wars nut, so that did the trick for me. There's a love story in there too! Also why I liked Uncharted, I liked chasing after Elena four games in a row, lol!
That moment when at minute 22:27 you ACCIDENTALLY let slip the same thought I had. 😆
Yes... The viewers. 🤣🤣
in Italian we call it a good "climb on mirrors/arrampicarsi sugli specchi" or we just say "I can hear the noise of your nails running on mirrors from here/posso sentire il rumore di unghie sugli specchi da qui" (When you try to cover up something with something else to deflect the attention from what you actually say in the first scenario 🤣).
I laughed so much at that part that I had to pause the video to regain a certain appearance of restraint. 🤣
The saddest thing about Vi, is seeing her choosing a love grounded in remorse and duty... than a love based on trust and reciprocity. 🥺
Seeing her hurting Caith again over again every time she chooses Powder is heartbreaking.
Especially because Caith chooses again over again to be by Vi's side, choosing a love based on trust and to trust Vi before duty. 😢
God HOW MUCH I LOVE THIS SHOW.
It's so well written.
It's so full of topics and feelings.
Can't wait for next season to struck us like a TIR.
As always, thank you for making the waiting between seasons more bearable with your deep and so well exposed analysis. 🤩
I love every one you made!
Listening to your analysis makes me remember again and again WHY I love this show so much. ~💖
Thank you so much!! 😘 You're so kind and I really, really love the show too (obviously). Marvellous how well it's written and executed ❤️❤️❤️
Your reading of the uneven nature of Vi and Caitlyn's budding relationship is spot on, and I'm not sure it will change 😭 But the writers have given us enough hope that we are glued to the screen!
And I'm glad you like my attempt at humour 😁🤪 It was meant as a comic relief, but a true one! I get distracted by Caitlyn and her eyes so often (sigh) 😍
I forgot the defenition of "Unconventional" for a second (second language vocab sometimes flips you off) and I, being a goofball, legit thought "Damn, even the title is jucy, I better make some popcorn and make tea or smthng"
Lol! 😂 Well, I hope you had a good time no matter what!