wow... it tastes exactly like sprite, but like you notice that hint of aromatic key lime and the extra acidity does add to it. I used tangerine instead of citral and it worked out.
Thanks. Root beer is in the queue, tonic is a bit harder because quinine is regulated in most countries (it is a prescription drug in North America). And though I have cinchona bark, tonic made from it tastes like dirt.
Love the content, and have been experimenting with making my own sodas (made a strawberry and a orange so far) Could you use the sodium benzoate preservative solution to extend the shelf life of the citric acid solution (a few drops like you did with the tannin solution in the sugar free simple video) or would the PH of the solution not work with that? How long would the citric acid solution last without preservation (a month or so)?
Im loving this channel. Planning on testing this in alcoholic cocktails to see how it goes. I couldnt find key lime n my country (I've found citral, but not sure if's food grade). Shipping and taxes are prohibitive to bring it from abroad. Which oils do you recommend for using in place of those 2 ? Also, is the 5-fold lemon substatially different to regular 100% natural lemon essential oil? In case I use the regular one, should it be used in the same amounts as the 5-fold or should I increase it? Thank you!
Hi Darcy! Thank you so much for your content! Question. It was mentioned that citral, when interacting with acids, gives an unpleasant aftertaste. Because of this, manufacturers are forced to maintain a higher PH level. But at home you can make it lower. Again, citral interacts with acids here too, but why doesn’t it give an unpleasant aftertaste? Or does the reaction just happen over time and not immediately? Then for how long? Is it even possible to describe this negative reaction of citral with acids in more detail in the context of drinks? I am involved in fermentation, specifically making fermented drinks. I noticed that if you accidentally squeeze essential oils out of the zest of lemon or other citrus fruits, apparently by interacting with lactic acid (which is in ginger bug), after a few hours, firstly, fermentation stops (most likely due to phytoncides), and secondly secondly, an unpleasant smell appears, either of manure or of an old kitchen rag. However, the problem disappears if, before adding the starter, the infusion with essential oils is heated a little, then fermentation will proceed and there will be no unpleasant smell. What could it be? Lactic acid is organic, and in theory there should be no reaction with citral.
I love your channel! This is exactly the kind of thing I’ve been looking for since I started learning how to make my own flavor extracts. Question about the improved solvent, if we have a higher strength ethanol available like 50 proof vodka or even higher proof Everclear, would we still want to use the propylene glycol?
@@Artofdrink I appreciate it. I just saw my error, glad you knew what i meant, that should be 50% abv or 100 proof. I have some p.g. so i may use some just to lower the alcohol content anyway. Maybe it will improve solubility. In the meantime i have simply been adding lemon juice with citric acid solution and sucralose then topping with carbonated water. And juicing fresh ginger to make ginger ale the same way. Very refreshing. Im looking forward to a "cleaner" flavor solution that doesnt foam up as much and holds carbonation a little better. But so far, so good. Lotsa fun. Thanks for your help and research
I will be doing a video on emulsification after I finish a few videos on carbonation and that will solve some of the alcohol access problems. Stay tuned.
Thanks for great video! To be honest I don't see the point of doing the syrup strp. Why not just add 1ml essence + citric acid directly to carbonated water?
New member here - i accidentally used everclear 95% instead of vodka, does this change anything to my process? Will the oils still separate to the top?
Well, stirred on plate for 2 hours, then left overnight. No separation, oils are completely dissolved in my attempt at essence... the citral, lemon 5 fold and key lime are dissolved in the 95% everclear, so there is no way for me to separate it out... can this be used as the essence? Honestly the oil separation part confused me because I thought I saw you create some essences without needing to separate oils...
I love me some lemon lime flavor...but I've been cutting back on sugars so I mostly drink flavored sparkling water nowadays with actual Sprite or 7-Up being an occasional treat due to the high sugar content. I've also kicked high caffeine in my 20's (late 30's now) so most sodas are out for me unless I take up to making my own to cut out caffeine, most of my intake of that comes from black tea..which in my case is unsweet cold tea more often than not. In my younger years I was addicted quite badly to Mt. Dew and needed at minimum 24ozs a day to function without starting to suffer from caffeine withdraw....I usually had anywhere from 3-4 cans a day on average with sometimes going up to 5 during the summer.
The high sugar levels are worse than high caffeine levels. Most of the soda I make here is half the sugar of commerical products. In the next few weeks I'll be doing a video on low sugar/calorie methods. Cheers
Also, would substituting 100 proof/50% ABV vodka or even everclear at 95% ABV work as a substitute for the propylene glycol or glycerin? is there any unique property of those two non-ethanol organic solvents or is this just to make 40% ABV adjustments easier?
50% abv vodka will always be your best friend for extracts. It doesn't over extract the water insoluble materials, and gets all the flavours. If I only had access to 40% vodka, I would add 10% to 20% by volume of propylene glycol to the vodka and that would make it a better solvent for extract. 95% Everclear over extracts, so you should always dilute it, so 600 ml Everclear plus 400 ml of water gets you just below 60% abv.
Thanks a lot for this video!! Only a question from a complete novice in this matter. Is necessary to use alcohol in making this syrup? Is there another way to do this without alcohol? How can we do sugar free syrups? Thanks again.
Welcome. For the most part, yes alcohol is the best option though I've done a video on glycerin and propylene glycol alternatives here: th-cam.com/video/8mOBXlxBOrM/w-d-xo.html And a video on sugar free soda/drinks is coming soon. Cheers
Hi darcy, thank you for such amazing content 😊 I'm from the UK and have been looking for citral, all I can find is aromatherapy grade oil for this, could I use organic lemongrass oil instead or are the aromatherapy grade ones still OK to use in small quantities?
Check out this video that explains why "aromatherapy grade" is just a junk label that has no meaning. As long as it is 100% natural, the product is okay to use. th-cam.com/video/9SZLCedj1JI/w-d-xo.html
@Artofdrink amazing, thank you, you thought of it all. Did you use a 1 to 1 syrup for this? And would you need the whole of the citric acid for the syrup solution? I'm hoping to keg it into corny kegs and serve on a community drinks bar? Also loving your book, great content 😊
Yes, 50% to 60% abv is ideal, but many people only have access to vodka at 40% so that's why I suggested adding propylene glycol to boost the solvent power. If you can get 50% to 60% abv then no propylene glycol is necessary.
@@Artofdrink I was wondering, could you dissolve all the oil almost entirely if you used 90% + alcohol? Or is there a benefit removing the oil after the essence is made?
@@1Garyguitar1 definitely benefits to removing the oils. The terpenes will dissolve in alcohol but once you add that alcohol to a syrup or soda they will come out of solution.
Serving solid means adding the carbonated water to the glass first, then slowly pouring the syrup into the soda water. If done right, the soda water doesn't foam, keeping most of its carbonation. And as long as your syrup is not too thick, it will mix uniformly. It was the preferred way to serve many drinks, specifically Phosphates, at soda fountains in the late 1800s
@@Artofdrink thank you so much! After your lessons i reconsidered my approach to serving soda drinks - it makes it more proper and more traditional like in a good old days ) we also had a soda machines in Russia in 60-90th when i was kid, mostly sweet in a hard highball glasses that no body actually took away ) what a nice time it was ....
I don't sell recipes, but if you want the cola recipes I'd be happy to share them with you on Patreon because you will have questions. I will eventually get around to making the Cola videos, but they do take time to get it done right.
@@Artofdrink legend I will get this sorted ASAP and thank you for getting back to me so quickly great to see a content creator engage with thier audience so much!
Hello sir. How are you?. Me from INDIA. Today i found your channel how make soda. I have multi flavour soft drinks soda machine in moving vehicle. So i wanna learn making flavoured soda. Like thums up. Fenta. Sprite mango. Red Bull. Etc. Please help me. N reply fast. Thanks a lot best of luck 🤞
Well 1 part blue powerade zero to 3 parts mtn dew is perfect. Did a blind taste test with a group of friends and they couldn't tell the difference between the real one and the one I made
Hello, I am interested in making my own lemon or lime based drink with an oak milk on it. Creamy milky with zesty taste. I was wondering if you can provide me some key importants and some additives I need to have. Thanks
![Natural Homemade Lemon-Lime Soda [Sprite Sryup]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VnP2l1h_abw/mqdefault.jpg)
wow... it tastes exactly like sprite, but like you notice that hint of aromatic key lime and the extra acidity does add to it. I used tangerine instead of citral and it worked out.
I wish you discussed the making of popsicles..and hard ice popsicles.. thanks again for your comprehensive. Chanel
Great stuff. I really would love a video on tonic as well as root beer.
Thanks. Root beer is in the queue, tonic is a bit harder because quinine is regulated in most countries (it is a prescription drug in North America). And though I have cinchona bark, tonic made from it tastes like dirt.
🎉 taking your videos like classes❤
I've just discovered your channel and I'm really enjoying your videos. Very informative and inspiring. Thank you!
Glad you like them!
Want to see how to make strawberry soda@@Artofdrink
This is awesome! Thanks a lot, I wanted to learn more about making at home Sprite :D
simply thanks
Love the content, and have been experimenting with making my own sodas (made a strawberry and a orange so far)
Could you use the sodium benzoate preservative solution to extend the shelf life of the citric acid solution (a few drops like you did with the tannin solution in the sugar free simple video) or would the PH of the solution not work with that? How long would the citric acid solution last without preservation (a month or so)?
Yes you can. I even add a small amount of citric acid, in the other direction, to the preservative solution to give it a pH of 4.0ish.
It's cool to see this and compare it to culinary techniques like oleo saccharum -- especially with regards to control.
Me and my dad is going to make that lemonade soda
Im loving this channel. Planning on testing this in alcoholic cocktails to see how it goes.
I couldnt find key lime n my country (I've found citral, but not sure if's food grade). Shipping and taxes are prohibitive to bring it from abroad.
Which oils do you recommend for using in place of those 2 ?
Also, is the 5-fold lemon substatially different to regular 100% natural lemon essential oil?
In case I use the regular one, should it be used in the same amounts as the 5-fold or should I increase it?
Thank you!
Thanks
Hi Darcy! Thank you so much for your content!
Question. It was mentioned that citral, when interacting with acids, gives an unpleasant aftertaste. Because of this, manufacturers are forced to maintain a higher PH level. But at home you can make it lower. Again, citral interacts with acids here too, but why doesn’t it give an unpleasant aftertaste? Or does the reaction just happen over time and not immediately? Then for how long? Is it even possible to describe this negative reaction of citral with acids in more detail in the context of drinks?
I am involved in fermentation, specifically making fermented drinks. I noticed that if you accidentally squeeze essential oils out of the zest of lemon or other citrus fruits, apparently by interacting with lactic acid (which is in ginger bug), after a few hours, firstly, fermentation stops (most likely due to phytoncides), and secondly secondly, an unpleasant smell appears, either of manure or of an old kitchen rag. However, the problem disappears if, before adding the starter, the infusion with essential oils is heated a little, then fermentation will proceed and there will be no unpleasant smell. What could it be? Lactic acid is organic, and in theory there should be no reaction with citral.
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I love your channel! This is exactly the kind of thing I’ve been looking for since I started learning how to make my own flavor extracts. Question about the improved solvent, if we have a higher strength ethanol available like 50 proof vodka or even higher proof Everclear, would we still want to use the propylene glycol?
Thanks. If you get above 50% abv on the alcohol, you probably don't need propylene glycol.
@@Artofdrink I appreciate it. I just saw my error, glad you knew what i meant, that should be 50% abv or 100 proof. I have some p.g. so i may use some just to lower the alcohol content anyway. Maybe it will improve solubility. In the meantime i have simply been adding lemon juice with citric acid solution and sucralose then topping with carbonated water. And juicing fresh ginger to make ginger ale the same way. Very refreshing. Im looking forward to a "cleaner" flavor solution that doesnt foam up as much and holds carbonation a little better. But so far, so good. Lotsa fun. Thanks for your help and research
Great job. They use alcohol?
Hi Darcy, how much Vanilla Extract would you add ?
Will this contain any alcohol?
Thanks... I love your chanel.. very interesting
Hi, is it possible to use the same soda in alcoholic drinks? You just gave examples of only lemonades and non-alcoholic cocktails.
Great video and very helpful for me
In our area alcohol is completely ban can you help me how to extract without alcohol
I will be doing a video on emulsification after I finish a few videos on carbonation and that will solve some of the alcohol access problems. Stay tuned.
Thanks for great video!
To be honest I don't see the point of doing the syrup strp. Why not just add 1ml essence + citric acid directly to carbonated water?
Because it will just float on top.
New member here - i accidentally used everclear 95% instead of vodka, does this change anything to my process? Will the oils still separate to the top?
Well, stirred on plate for 2 hours, then left overnight. No separation, oils are completely dissolved in my attempt at essence... the citral, lemon 5 fold and key lime are dissolved in the 95% everclear, so there is no way for me to separate it out... can this be used as the essence? Honestly the oil separation part confused me because I thought I saw you create some essences without needing to separate oils...
Do you need to separate the essence from the oils? Could you just add Gum Arabic to bind the oils into the water?
I prefer to separate out the oils because creating an emulsion of the oils with gum Arabic is more difficult than people realize.
I love me some lemon lime flavor...but I've been cutting back on sugars so I mostly drink flavored sparkling water nowadays with actual Sprite or 7-Up being an occasional treat due to the high sugar content. I've also kicked high caffeine in my 20's (late 30's now) so most sodas are out for me unless I take up to making my own to cut out caffeine, most of my intake of that comes from black tea..which in my case is unsweet cold tea more often than not. In my younger years I was addicted quite badly to Mt. Dew and needed at minimum 24ozs a day to function without starting to suffer from caffeine withdraw....I usually had anywhere from 3-4 cans a day on average with sometimes going up to 5 during the summer.
The high sugar levels are worse than high caffeine levels. Most of the soda I make here is half the sugar of commerical products. In the next few weeks I'll be doing a video on low sugar/calorie methods. Cheers
@@Artofdrink Nice, looking forward to that.
Also, would substituting 100 proof/50% ABV vodka or even everclear at 95% ABV work as a substitute for the propylene glycol or glycerin? is there any unique property of those two non-ethanol organic solvents or is this just to make 40% ABV adjustments easier?
50% abv vodka will always be your best friend for extracts. It doesn't over extract the water insoluble materials, and gets all the flavours. If I only had access to 40% vodka, I would add 10% to 20% by volume of propylene glycol to the vodka and that would make it a better solvent for extract. 95% Everclear over extracts, so you should always dilute it, so 600 ml Everclear plus 400 ml of water gets you just below 60% abv.
Thanks a lot for this video!! Only a question from a complete novice in this matter. Is necessary to use alcohol in making this syrup? Is there another way to do this without alcohol? How can we do sugar free syrups?
Thanks again.
Welcome. For the most part, yes alcohol is the best option though I've done a video on glycerin and propylene glycol alternatives here: th-cam.com/video/8mOBXlxBOrM/w-d-xo.html
And a video on sugar free soda/drinks is coming soon. Cheers
Hi darcy, thank you for such amazing content 😊 I'm from the UK and have been looking for citral, all I can find is aromatherapy grade oil for this, could I use organic lemongrass oil instead or are the aromatherapy grade ones still OK to use in small quantities?
Check out this video that explains why "aromatherapy grade" is just a junk label that has no meaning. As long as it is 100% natural, the product is okay to use. th-cam.com/video/9SZLCedj1JI/w-d-xo.html
@Artofdrink amazing, thank you, you thought of it all.
Did you use a 1 to 1 syrup for this?
And would you need the whole of the citric acid for the syrup solution?
I'm hoping to keg it into corny kegs and serve on a community drinks bar?
Also loving your book, great content 😊
I wonder what a pinch of bergamot would do.
can I use this as a base for mt dew?
Can you use exteacts instead of essential oil?
Maybe, depends on how dilute the extract is, and typically if you look at grocery store extracts they are about 10 to 20% oil and the rest is alcohol.
Do you know if there is a powder form of citral? Or an alternative I could use?
Citral is a liquid, you would have to bind it to something like a sugar or starch to make it a "powder".
Are you offering in person teachings ?
Unfortunately, no, I just don't have the time. But pretty much everything you need to know can be found in my videos.
Adding acid solution to the syrup shortens the lifespan? Isn't more acidic environment more stable?
It's the flavour oils in citrus, specifically citral, that break down in an acidic environment (ph
@@Artofdrink ah right, I forget about it, thanks :)
Any alternatives for the separatory funnel?
a siphon, he mentioned that right after
@@williamforsythe5850 thank you I don't know how I missed that lol
I was wondering, if used higher proof alcohol, would you need the propylene glycol? In some videos you use it, in other you don't.
Yes, 50% to 60% abv is ideal, but many people only have access to vodka at 40% so that's why I suggested adding propylene glycol to boost the solvent power. If you can get 50% to 60% abv then no propylene glycol is necessary.
@@Artofdrink Ah. Thank you. That makes sense.
@@Artofdrink I was wondering, could you dissolve all the oil almost entirely if you used 90% + alcohol? Or is there a benefit removing the oil after the essence is made?
@@1Garyguitar1 definitely benefits to removing the oils. The terpenes will dissolve in alcohol but once you add that alcohol to a syrup or soda they will come out of solution.
@@Artofdrink Ah, ok. I found your channel and Patreon at the right time. I've been struggling with a number of issues like this for a while now.
If you were to add the citric acid solution to 1L of syrup (I'll be going through this quickly) would you add the whole 150ml?
I'd say add it all at once since you are going through it quickly.
excuse me, but what do you mean by " serving solid" keeps carbonation in your drink ? ....thank you!
Serving solid means adding the carbonated water to the glass first, then slowly pouring the syrup into the soda water. If done right, the soda water doesn't foam, keeping most of its carbonation. And as long as your syrup is not too thick, it will mix uniformly. It was the preferred way to serve many drinks, specifically Phosphates, at soda fountains in the late 1800s
@@Artofdrink thank you so much! After your lessons i reconsidered my approach to serving soda drinks - it makes it more proper and more traditional like in a good old days ) we also had a soda machines in Russia in 60-90th when i was kid, mostly sweet in a hard highball glasses that no body actually took away ) what a nice time it was ....
Hello I would like to take classes from you❤
I am currently working on a beverage development course. Stay tuned.
Make one on Dr. Pepper how to make it.
Do you sell recipes? I know you mentioned you have cola etc but does patreon get access to recipes
I don't sell recipes, but if you want the cola recipes I'd be happy to share them with you on Patreon because you will have questions. I will eventually get around to making the Cola videos, but they do take time to get it done right.
@@Artofdrink which tier on patreon you you need me to go for it's just affordability
@@simonfoster4162 the base $5 tier is fine
@@Artofdrink legend I will get this sorted ASAP and thank you for getting back to me so quickly great to see a content creator engage with thier audience so much!
Are you used pure of essential oil?
Yes, all-natural essential oils
@@Artofdrink ok thanks, i got a lot of knowledge from your videos,,
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Hello sir. How are you?. Me from INDIA. Today i found your channel how make soda. I have multi flavour soft drinks soda machine in moving vehicle. So i wanna learn making flavoured soda. Like thums up. Fenta. Sprite mango. Red Bull. Etc. Please help me. N reply fast. Thanks a lot best of luck 🤞
Please god, do a Baja Blast recipe. I'm tired of being told to mix powerade with mountain dew. lol
Well 1 part blue powerade zero to 3 parts mtn dew is perfect. Did a blind taste test with a group of friends and they couldn't tell the difference between the real one and the one I made
Hello, I am interested in making my own lemon or lime based drink with an oak milk on it. Creamy milky with zesty taste. I was wondering if you can provide me some key importants and some additives I need to have. Thanks
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