The carousel is a brilliant metaphor for the total futility of horse cavalry in ww1. They had a role to play as all men do in war, but they learned the hard way that it wasn't to be anything so grand as it had been in previous wars, at the cost of many lives and many horses.
TRENCH WARFARE, at least on this scale, was totally unexpected, and unprepared for. The artillery had to be mobile, and only horses could do that, to any real degree. millions were lost.
@@HO-bndk I didn't mean to imply that they were completely useless, I more meant that their role wasn't to be that of the grand and easy victors who fight easy one sided battles and easily win, as it had been in some previous wars.
This is movie is great and super deep if you know the history. But the ending is still super sad and very poignant. I wish more people watch this today.
I just got my DVD of it the other day. It's done in a surrealistic style, yet it's the most honest presentation of the Great War I've ever seen. And it accomplishes it without showing any carnage. A very powerful movie to say the least.
@@Ww1photos1716 I know that when I have kids, they will watch every movie like this one. Including Zulu and any war movie where both sides show eachother respect. As this was the last gentleman’s war
My Grandfather volunteered to fight at 16 and was wounded at the Somme, he volunteerd for WW2 when he was 40 and fought, then after the war he just fisticuffed in the local. They were a different breed in those days!
The connection was that Belgium DID stop the Germans - and my great grandpa earned two Chevalier de l'Ordre de Léopold, with Oak Leaves (the Belgian VC) doing so. The Allied lines held, as the Germans went further and further west, trying to turn the flank, in what was called the Race to the Sea, and eventually faced what was left of the Belgian Army, defending what was left of Belgium, from the highest ground in the Yser Valley, the railway embankment from Nieupoort to Furnes. Captain Louis Nestor Guiot commanded the western half of the line, and held them long enough for the King, commanding in the field, to get the sea sluices blown, turning Flanders into the uncrossable sea of mud. I had a hand in the film, finding the WW1 battledress uniforms, and taking my first salute as the greenest 14 year old cadet ever. A message went the other way, I now realise: now, as then, the youngsters learn to kill, and die.
Yes French cavalry started the war with uniformes not very different from those of the Second Empire et the French-german war of 1870. But there was very few charges against enemy infantry, and nothing more than clashes with enemy cavalry at the level of squadron. There was most of all exhausting marches to cover and inform the army of enemy's movements, and then after the Battle of the Marne (September 1914) a ride to reach the Channel before the Germans. Another point is that british cavalry, even dressed in kaki uniformes, suffered heavy losses attacking German machine guns near Mons at the same time. and the the same for the German squadrons in feldgrau uniforms charging against the Belgians machine guns at Haelen (summer 1914)... So it was not only a question of red trousers and shining helmet and armors...
@@HO-bndk ?? its supposed to be a surreal version of the war. Show the horror of it vs the happiness of the homefront with its propaganda and romanticized version
I love the criticism ( not shared at the time I might add ), without the magic ingredient, what Haigh should have done. Belgium, by its heroic and savage defence did "put the kibosh on the kaiser", because the Schlieiffen plan failed. Leading to the French and English giving the Hun a good hammering on all fronts. But I'm willing to listen to the military geniuses who've come up with a plan where nobody dies.
It's just like the sort of stuff being performed in music halls back in Blighty, all the time making a silent comment about the French cavalry being as useful as a bunch of men riding on a merry-go-round. Then we get into the uniforms. It's interesting to contrast this with the song "They were only playing leapfrog" later in the movie. "Oh what a lovely war!" is an amazing movie, that gets better, and darker, the older you get and with the more you know about WW1
@@kingoftyre NATO , 20 years in Afghanistan , then ran away under the cover of darkness like a politician caught in a brothel . Achieved sweet F.A . Not to mention the billions of dollars worth of equipment left behind .
Maybe i think the reason why the song was sad at the end because, maybe Belgium a innocent country was trying its best to defend the country this was giving the allies less fronts and they support Belgium too which increased Belgium morale. Poor Belgium, at least the British stood up for them Rule Britannia
+J.A. Brown They found out that charging machine guns and modern artillery on a horse while wearing bright red and blue clothes was a bad idea. The French Army suffered something in the realm of +1 million casualties in the first months of the war.
Actually no, most armies kept their original field colours, it was pure luck that the British army had switched from bright red to brown Khaki before the war broke out. France kept its bright blue and red uniforms before ditching the red and sticking to the blue.
Not really, the British started using camouflage during the Boer war already, it was not a case that they were wearing kaki, but by the end of 1914 basically every army had adapted their uniforms(not yet equipping their soldiers with helmets until the next year though).
The carousel is a brilliant metaphor for the total futility of horse cavalry in ww1. They had a role to play as all men do in war, but they learned the hard way that it wasn't to be anything so grand as it had been in previous wars, at the cost of many lives and many horses.
TRENCH WARFARE, at least on this scale, was totally unexpected, and unprepared for. The artillery had to be mobile, and only horses could do that, to any real degree. millions were lost.
The Great War wasn't only fought on the Western front. Cavalry had an important part to play.
@@HO-bndk I didn't mean to imply that they were completely useless, I more meant that their role wasn't to be that of the grand and easy victors who fight easy one sided battles and easily win, as it had been in some previous wars.
@@aburninglandfillofbadmovie2930they were very important in the Middle East campaign
@@geo.m1639 But never in the way of pre-WW1 warfare. Which is the point. Cavalry had to evolve and became more mounted infantry
This is movie is great and super deep if you know the history. But the ending is still super sad and very poignant. I wish more people watch this today.
I think all school children should watch it. You are right it is so poignant.
Dark Light nice.
@Dark Light Sounds like quite a meal if it also is the correct size.
I just got my DVD of it the other day. It's done in a surrealistic style, yet it's the most honest presentation of the Great War I've ever seen. And it accomplishes it without showing any carnage. A very powerful movie to say the least.
@@Ww1photos1716 I know that when I have kids, they will watch every movie like this one. Including Zulu and any war movie where both sides show eachother respect. As this was the last gentleman’s war
I watched this movie, and I didn't expect for it to drop deep so quickly. 20/10 movie
My Grandfather volunteered to fight at 16 and was wounded at the Somme, he volunteerd for WW2 when he was 40 and fought, then after the war he just fisticuffed in the local. They were a different breed in those days!
Patriots maybe?
Apparently, he couldn't get along with anybody.
How did he enlist in WW2 and fight if he was at least in his 40s?
Your grandfather if you don’t mind me saying had some solid iron balls😂😂
@@HO-bndkbecause he was still able bodied obviously
The connection was that Belgium DID stop the Germans - and my great grandpa earned two Chevalier de l'Ordre de Léopold, with Oak Leaves (the Belgian VC) doing so. The Allied lines held, as the Germans went further and further west, trying to turn the flank, in what was called the Race to the Sea, and eventually faced what was left of the Belgian Army, defending what was left of Belgium, from the highest ground in the Yser Valley, the railway embankment from Nieupoort to Furnes. Captain Louis Nestor Guiot commanded the western half of the line, and held them long enough for the King, commanding in the field, to get the sea sluices blown, turning Flanders into the uncrossable sea of mud.
I had a hand in the film, finding the WW1 battledress uniforms, and taking my first salute as the greenest 14 year old cadet ever. A message went the other way, I now realise: now, as then, the youngsters learn to kill, and die.
Yes French cavalry started the war with uniformes not very different from those of the Second Empire et the French-german war of 1870. But there was very few charges against enemy infantry, and nothing more than clashes with enemy cavalry at the level of squadron. There was most of all exhausting marches to cover and inform the army of enemy's movements, and then after the Battle of the Marne (September 1914) a ride to reach the Channel before the Germans. Another point is that british cavalry, even dressed in kaki uniformes, suffered heavy losses attacking German machine guns near Mons at the same time. and the the same for the German squadrons in feldgrau uniforms charging against the Belgians machine guns at Haelen (summer 1914)... So it was not only a question of red trousers and shining helmet and armors...
This movie is incredible! What a work!!
1960s crap. Nothing to do with the real war.
@@HO-bndk ?? its supposed to be a surreal version of the war. Show the horror of it vs the happiness of the homefront with its propaganda and romanticized version
I love the criticism ( not shared at the time I might add ), without the magic ingredient, what Haigh should have done. Belgium, by its heroic and savage defence did "put the kibosh on the kaiser", because the Schlieiffen plan failed. Leading to the French and English giving the Hun a good hammering on all fronts.
But I'm willing to listen to the military geniuses who've come up with a plan where nobody dies.
It's just like the sort of stuff being performed in music halls back in Blighty, all the time making a silent comment about the French cavalry being as useful as a bunch of men riding on a merry-go-round. Then we get into the uniforms. It's interesting to contrast this with the song "They were only playing leapfrog" later in the movie. "Oh what a lovely war!" is an amazing movie, that gets better, and darker, the older you get and with the more you know about WW1
British cavalry was in fact mobile light infantry, armed with smle carbines, and until the front stabilised was very effective, your point is?
Re the last comment: Very witty, not
@@onastick2411 British cav, yes (except for the lancers), but this is French cavalry being shown off here.
Long story short, Cavalry had a rough time in the early modern era of ww1-ww2.
Blimey, that is dark.
That French officer looked like Peter Sellers.
Nope. Peter Sellers actually looked like Jean-Pierre Cassel! LOL!!
If they remade this film it would be a sin not to put Simon Helberg in this role
Ukraine put the kibosh on the Russian, he forgot about the rest of the free world.
Yeah.....that's why Russia is still advancing and Putin is still in power 2 and half years later .
@@DamienSullivan-hw4lq good afternoon,
4 day special operation? after 900 days, advancing, should be in Kiev by 2042.
@@kingoftyre NATO , 20 years in Afghanistan , then ran away under the cover of darkness like a politician caught in a brothel . Achieved sweet F.A . Not to mention the billions of dollars worth of equipment left behind .
@@DamienSullivan-hw4lqbro gave up after you hit him with that one
That naughty Putin spike of peace while prepared for war
I hope I will see that movie anytime soon.
Seems I cant find it anywhere :-(
Ingo Seidinger you can find it on amazon prime
It's on TH-cam
French Cuirassiers had some of the most majestic uniforms
Maybe i think the reason why the song was sad at the end because, maybe Belgium a innocent country was trying its best to defend the country this was giving the allies less fronts and they support Belgium too which increased Belgium morale. Poor Belgium, at least the British stood up for them Rule Britannia
Britain had signed a treaty, to come to their aid
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you know Belgium had just killed millions in the Congo
It reminds me of a song that was popular two years ago: Ukraine Put The Kibosh On The Putin.
What do you think that song is a parody of
belgium got destroyed in ww1 btw
Where can you watch this?
I want to watch it with a close friend of mine
WW1 : Belgium Put The Kibosh on The Keiser!!
One hundred years later...
Now : Ukraine Put The Kibosh on The Putin.
Ukraine put the end on the Putin
@@adamsuawka8909 we can but hope.
What is the name of that French singer ? I can't find he's credited anywhere.
Hi, it's Jean-Pierre Cassel :)
@@afrenchguardsman6121 SADLY, HE DIED SHORTLY AFTER YOUR ENQUIRY.
@@MrDaiseymay hes been dead since 2007 so not exactly recently
@@afrenchguardsman6121 the one and only!
Go Belgium Go
What happened at the end?? D:
+J.A. Brown They found out that charging machine guns and modern artillery on a horse while wearing bright red and blue clothes was a bad idea.
The French Army suffered something in the realm of +1 million casualties in the first months of the war.
SgtMjAlex
Oh, I see. Is that when camouflage uniforms started becoming a thing? :(
Actually no, most armies kept their original field colours, it was pure luck that the British army had switched from bright red to brown Khaki before the war broke out. France kept its bright blue and red uniforms before ditching the red and sticking to the blue.
So camouflage uniforms didn't become a thing until WWII?
Not really, the British started using camouflage during the Boer war already, it was not a case that they were wearing kaki, but by the end of 1914 basically every army had adapted their uniforms(not yet equipping their soldiers with helmets until the next year though).