I am a young earther, although not necessarily dogmatic regarding it (I come from an atheistic evolutionary background). However, it is key to note that many Rabbis, including Ibn Ezra and various others, interpreted Yom as a 24 hour day. In fact, when the Septuagint was translated, the Hebrew translators used the Greek word ημέραις to translate "days" in Exodus 20:11. This word is exclusively the plural of a single 24 hour day. It would be the same as us saying we'll be on vacation for 6 days. We don't interpret that as 6 ages or anything of that nature. So even over 2,000 years ago, the Hebrews believed it was a literal 6 days. Creating celestial bodies for calculating or tracking time has no bearing on time itself. If the earth existed in a void with no sun, moon, or stars, time would continue that same. We would just have to track it differently. All a day is is how long it takes for us to rotate. it is not dependent on anything other than that. And that is how Ibn Ezra described it, "A rotation of a sphere." Notice he didn't even mention the sun or moon. There are also modern Rabbis and Hebraists who understand Yom to be a literal 24 hour day in Genesis 1. There is not an absoute consensus on the matter. I say this not to discredit you, but to simply say not to be so rigid in your understanding.
I’m wracking my brain trying to figure out how someone can go from being an atheist who accepts evolutionary biology to a young earther. I say that because one of the top two or three reasons why I lost my faith is the overwhelming amount of evidence against the Bible narrative of creation, Adam and Eve, and the flood. In order to be a young earth creationist, you have to reject entire scientific disciplines like biology, geology, and cosmology. If those three disciplines are wrong, I don’t see how the scientific method can survive in such a worldview.
@@frederickfairlieesq5316 , that's some nonsense you are spouting. Let's start with Biology. Abiogenesis, the process of life arising from non-living matter, is getting more impossible the more we learn about the complexities of the cell. 1.- No one has been able to explain the chirality of organic chemistry, needed for life. A single bond of wrong chirality and the whole system falls apart. 2.- No one has been able to create life in a lab. They always START with a living cell, and have never CREATED even the simplest living cell. 3.- The sum of all known mutations actually REMOVE information from DNA. There is no known mechanism of DNA growing with more information. 4.- Natural selection is verifiable, but it always REMOVES information from the genome. And that removal causes a lot of problems long term. Think of Wolf to Dog and the many dog breeds with genetic problems. I could go on, but it is becoming obvious that DNA is a coding language that needs a coder, and this is enough to dispel your assertion.
16:39 The terrible day of the Lord you pointed out, is the day of Judgement. There is no reason to think it will not fit in a 24 hour day. So can you point to any other place in the Bible where Y om does not represent a 24 hour day? No? Then why would the days of creation be different? Secondly, it is not unreasonable that the light God created in the first day, he replaced with the Sun in the forth day. Have you heard of flood lights and working lamps? You can pick up a set for a few dollars from ebay when you need to work on your car, and then switch them off when no longer needed.
Y om actually CAN mean, a literal 24 hr day and in this context it does where the text EXPLICITY says in a formula constantly repeated וַֽיְהִי־בֹ֖קֶר י֥וֹם אֶחָֽד׃ and REPEATS the cardinal number . And no, I'm not a young earther but I understand from the Hebrew text why I'm not... which apparently you do not. Please stop you kackling, it's very distracting and reminiscent of someone I would much prefer to forget.
More to the point, why would the Bible start with a LIE? If they were not 24 hour days, then why use the word day? The whole narrative of Genesis 1, could be written without specifying the time periods. BUT Genesis 1 DOES specify time periods as 24 hour days. So it is correct to take it literally, and from this we understand the correct chronology.
I am afraid you are mistaken. It's easy to do reading it in English but in ancient Hebrew the translation of day can also be long periods of time and morning and evening can also be markers for the transition between those long periods of time. This also makes Genesis 1 align exactly with what science confirms the Earth's history was over a few billion years including the sun and moons appearance (as fits with the hebrew). After land forms there is a great oxygenation event that allows the Earth's atmosphere to clear and now the sun and moon can be seen from the surface. Moses vision of God's perspective was 100% accurate when translated correctly and understood with the help of science.
@@Ozzy66733 science does not say the Earth is old. Also you are wrong. Every time the day is modified by day or evening or a number it always means a literal day. You are taking the words of man and telling God he is a lier. If it helps I will explain to you how science does not say what you think it says, but the issue here is weather you believe the word of God or you believe the word of sinful man
@@Ozzy66733 so when God said after their own kind he was joking? If sin was not the cause of death then why do we need Christ? You are putting scientist above God
@@beefsupreme4671 incorrect. I am using the literal Ancient Hebrew. Not sure why it's hard to understand Ancient Hebrew was limited so many of uts words had more than one translation. Adam introduced sin on man. Not on nature. It was good does not mean no death and Christians before the 19th century never thought of the Earth as young. This is a new interpretation.
@@Ozzy66733 you are reading much that is not there. I don’t know why you don’t understand. Pray to receive wisdom from God. I guarantee that he will not tell you that he was joking about the creation. Also yes the Bible clearly states that sin was a curse on creation. Not just man. The idea that you think people who spoke ancient Hebrew could not make themselves understood is wrong. Also if like you said morning and evening or a number did not mean a literal day then give one example.
I am a young earther, although not necessarily dogmatic regarding it (I come from an atheistic evolutionary background). However, it is key to note that many Rabbis, including Ibn Ezra and various others, interpreted Yom as a 24 hour day. In fact, when the Septuagint was translated, the Hebrew translators used the Greek word ημέραις to translate "days" in Exodus 20:11. This word is exclusively the plural of a single 24 hour day. It would be the same as us saying we'll be on vacation for 6 days. We don't interpret that as 6 ages or anything of that nature. So even over 2,000 years ago, the Hebrews believed it was a literal 6 days.
Creating celestial bodies for calculating or tracking time has no bearing on time itself. If the earth existed in a void with no sun, moon, or stars, time would continue that same. We would just have to track it differently. All a day is is how long it takes for us to rotate. it is not dependent on anything other than that. And that is how Ibn Ezra described it, "A rotation of a sphere." Notice he didn't even mention the sun or moon.
There are also modern Rabbis and Hebraists who understand Yom to be a literal 24 hour day in Genesis 1. There is not an absoute consensus on the matter.
I say this not to discredit you, but to simply say not to be so rigid in your understanding.
I’m wracking my brain trying to figure out how someone can go from being an atheist who accepts evolutionary biology to a young earther. I say that because one of the top two or three reasons why I lost my faith is the overwhelming amount of evidence against the Bible narrative of creation, Adam and Eve, and the flood. In order to be a young earth creationist, you have to reject entire scientific disciplines like biology, geology, and cosmology. If those three disciplines are wrong, I don’t see how the scientific method can survive in such a worldview.
@@frederickfairlieesq5316 , that's some nonsense you are spouting. Let's start with Biology. Abiogenesis, the process of life arising from non-living matter, is getting more impossible the more we learn about the complexities of the cell. 1.- No one has been able to explain the chirality of organic chemistry, needed for life. A single bond of wrong chirality and the whole system falls apart. 2.- No one has been able to create life in a lab. They always START with a living cell, and have never CREATED even the simplest living cell. 3.- The sum of all known mutations actually REMOVE information from DNA. There is no known mechanism of DNA growing with more information. 4.- Natural selection is verifiable, but it always REMOVES information from the genome. And that removal causes a lot of problems long term. Think of Wolf to Dog and the many dog breeds with genetic problems. I could go on, but it is becoming obvious that DNA is a coding language that needs a coder, and this is enough to dispel your assertion.
Only God can truly know what he meant when he authored the Bible.
16:39 The terrible day of the Lord you pointed out, is the day of Judgement. There is no reason to think it will not fit in a 24 hour day. So can you point to any other place in the Bible where Y om does not represent a 24 hour day? No? Then why would the days of creation be different?
Secondly, it is not unreasonable that the light God created in the first day, he replaced with the Sun in the forth day. Have you heard of flood lights and working lamps? You can pick up a set for a few dollars from ebay when you need to work on your car, and then switch them off when no longer needed.
Except for Luke.
Y om actually CAN mean, a literal 24 hr day and in this context it does where the text EXPLICITY says in a formula constantly repeated וַֽיְהִי־בֹ֖קֶר י֥וֹם אֶחָֽד׃
and REPEATS the cardinal number . And no, I'm not a young earther but I understand from the Hebrew text why I'm not... which apparently you do not. Please stop you kackling, it's very distracting and reminiscent of someone I would much prefer to forget.
Thanks, Pastor.
Why would it teach that. It’s not what is important. You can go through the Bible and chronologically figure it out.
More to the point, why would the Bible start with a LIE? If they were not 24 hour days, then why use the word day? The whole narrative of Genesis 1, could be written without specifying the time periods. BUT Genesis 1 DOES specify time periods as 24 hour days. So it is correct to take it literally, and from this we understand the correct chronology.
@@downburst3236 Then it was created in 6 days. Simple huh .
@@DavidBridge-u8d, simple indeed. "The simplest explanation is usually the best one." Occam's razor
Do not change the word of God. The Bible teaches the young Earth, unless you think that God lied about death being the result of sin.
I am afraid you are mistaken. It's easy to do reading it in English but in ancient Hebrew the translation of day can also be long periods of time and morning and evening can also be markers for the transition between those long periods of time. This also makes Genesis 1 align exactly with what science confirms the Earth's history was over a few billion years including the sun and moons appearance (as fits with the hebrew). After land forms there is a great oxygenation event that allows the Earth's atmosphere to clear and now the sun and moon can be seen from the surface.
Moses vision of God's perspective was 100% accurate when translated correctly and understood with the help of science.
@@Ozzy66733 science does not say the Earth is old.
Also you are wrong. Every time the day is modified by day or evening or a number it always means a literal day.
You are taking the words of man and telling God he is a lier.
If it helps I will explain to you how science does not say what you think it says, but the issue here is weather you believe the word of God or you believe the word of sinful man
@@Ozzy66733 so when God said after their own kind he was joking?
If sin was not the cause of death then why do we need Christ?
You are putting scientist above God
@@beefsupreme4671 incorrect. I am using the literal Ancient Hebrew. Not sure why it's hard to understand Ancient Hebrew was limited so many of uts words had more than one translation.
Adam introduced sin on man. Not on nature. It was good does not mean no death and Christians before the 19th century never thought of the Earth as young. This is a new interpretation.
@@Ozzy66733 you are reading much that is not there.
I don’t know why you don’t understand. Pray to receive wisdom from God.
I guarantee that he will not tell you that he was joking about the creation.
Also yes the Bible clearly states that sin was a curse on creation. Not just man.
The idea that you think people who spoke ancient Hebrew could not make themselves understood is wrong.
Also if like you said morning and evening or a number did not mean a literal day then give one example.