The "...and take away its pain." and that speech is one of the most powerful story pieces of Warframe. I cried playing through this. Eyes watery again.
One thing I would like to point out, the options aren't a case of "Good, Neutral, Evil" it's more like "Yin (White, Emotion, Justice) , Neutral, Yang (Black, Dispassion, Pragmatism)", and so as such swearing revenge and making evil bastards grovel are very much in the wheelhouse of Yin.
Yin is the black and yang is the white, you got those swapped :) Other than that, yes, that's what the options feel like - the sun is aggressive action, the moon is passive and neutral is just that, neutrality.
I personally like the "neutral" option because the other ones seem too extreme and seem to lead down a more specific path. The "neutral" options are more of a "I'm better than all of you so I'll do things THIS way."
2:17:40 No, its not the "good" option. The white is the "yang", and yang is among other things also "aggressive"/blunt/open in its approach, hence the fire symbolism in the choice. Yin is the covert, subdued. If you relate it warfare: yang (white) would be the brazen soldier on the field, attacking enemies up front. Yin would be the agent/spy/diplomat, spinning intrigues. Or in Martial Arts: Yang is the offensive, the projecting of force. Yin the defensive deflection/absorbtion of an incoming force.
The gravity on a planet like that would kill you instantly. Even a robot would get smooshed instantly. You'd have to admire a planet like that from a distance. And you're definitely not going to be able to mine it and make all the money.
You can actually level up those mods... and their power increases when they are a set. So the Umbra Vitality actually goes up to 770% HP increase instead of 440%.
Something I haven't seen mentioned all that much is the fact that Excal Umbra could almost just be a one-off way of giving "Excal Prime" access to non-founders without upsetting founders. I think it's a really awesome move, but it could mean that there are no more umbra frames coming. Like Brozime said, even if more ARE coming... we don't even have all the prime frames yet - so waiting on umbra frames to get umbra polarities to use mods on a specific Warframe will just feel terrible. Hopefully polarizing for umbra slots becomes possible in some way in the near-ish future!
Warning: contains potential (minor- ish) spoilers. Do NOT read, if you wanna try/ experience things for yourself! Just in case someone still needs (or wants) a way of understanding how those orokin "riddles" work: the symbols always come in pairs. one of the symbols is a "link", to another pair of symbols (so the "link" has to be part of both pairs). Let's take the easy example first with letters known to us all (marking the "link" in capitals). 1) 3- part riddle. 2 pairs of symbols: ir + ai. Taking the above mentioned system the symbol that is in both pairs, is "the link". so we get Ir + aI. Putting that in order: aIr (air) => solved. 2) 5- part riddle. 4 pairs of symbols: ic + us + si + mu. As before we're looking for those symbols, that are in two pairs so we get Ic + US + SI + mU. Now we're going to look, how we can connect those, leading us to mU + US + SI + Ic => mUSIc (music). The orokin riddles work the same way. Just the symbols are different. This explanation is just in case, DE will, at some point, not give you the "partial" solutions (like with the 2nd riddle, when they combine things for you, to make it clear, they belong together, while "randomly" slapping symbols together). minor-ish spoilers ahead: side notes: I've seen two youtuber so far. And both payed no attention to the map at all, when being busy with the first riddle. It's totally unimportant, but a bit funny :D Oh.. .and the fights operator vs umbra are quite a hustle, when you have an unskilled operator with starter amp. 250 live and low dmg are no fun there. Luckily in the 2nd fight his shields won't recharge, so you can die through that part of the mission >.> oh... and "needing" 200k endo for those new mods. I still haven't fully leveled my primed mods, I use regularly...
1:20:01 Brozime! I am here from the future (because I wanted to cry over Smiles from Juran and reactions to the Sacrifice again) but I come to say you're correct! We do, in fact, time travel! ...just 6 years later.
Don´t know why people always think the white plate is "good". I mean everything is on fire in it! I think the black one is more peacefull. but still I´m balanced, soooo
The alignment system isn't "Good vs Evil". It's "Emotional" vs "Apathetic"; or better yet, "Heart" vs "Mind"; "Emotion" vs "Logic" Like when you had the first choice regarding Umbra's memory, the "Emotional" choice was Wrath, and the "Apathetic" choice was Emptiness. Vs Ballas, calling him a maggot is the "Emotional" choice, whereas saying the cycle is broken is just being "Apathetic" about what happened.
I'm seriously glad you can't forma those umbra polarities. They are so good you would need two or three new forma for so many Warframes, and it would kind of ruin the uniqueness of Umbra frames.
man...Zime is a BEAST...Like imagine being a Grineer soldier and hearing his excal umbra is on your ship...shiiieet i'd be making a B-line to the nearest escape pod
It would be nice if DE had been secretly working on another story quest behind the scenes to release with the Eidolon Warframe coming out. But, a man can dream.
.........Oh my god I forgot about "Orokin Derelict" being a location on the star chart lmao. That took me by surprise, I saw that's where you were parked at the start and I was like "what the hell is THAT place and how have I not unlocked it when I'm past this quest in the main line"
Kerrigan was my first thought as well. Not complaining in the slightest, because Kerrigan is straight awesome. Also, I didn't catch the inverted Second Dream line when I played through it. "This is who you are" versus "This... is what I am."
So am I correct in discerning that the Umbra Warframes are the first batch of frames that were created before the discovery of the Tenno? At which point the Prime Warframes were created as the biomachines for the Tenno to use? And the normal frames are just bastardized versions of the primes? If so, does this lead to the idea that all Umbra Warframes would have both the original warframe passive, as well as the ability to function independent of the operator? As in Umbra Warframes were people who still maintain sentience but form a bond with the Tenno?
dunno if anyone told you but komi is the warframe equivalent of an ancient japanese(?) board game called go, you basically got the concept from komi but go uses a much larger board.
I’m excited to try the new Titania. With her Dex Pixia scaling off secondary mods now that should be insane. I was using shotguns before for the extra damage from primed point blank
I hope we get a way to forma for the umvra polarity in the future.. make it three/fourtimes more expensive than normal formas but evem then I'd be worth it.
u cant polarize the new umbra polarity cause it doesn't make sense lore wise or gameplay wise, they are unique to the umbra frames ,that is the biggest part of what makes them special than other frames
Louis Fleming presumably it's a solar system, back in the orokin era they sent the sentients to the Tau system to colonize it for the orokin. Long story short, the sentients returned and waged war with the orokin and orokin in turned created the Warframes to effectively combat the sentients.
Does anyone else think Umbra Excalibur didn't have a operator and was the person in the bed? Cause when ballas kept calling Issah your son I already knew it wasn't issah that's Umbra Excal. And the reason why I think Umbra Excal was the person in the bed cause we already knew that warframe were infested so he was being infested which lead to him killing issah also it would make sense that Umbra Excal was the guy in the bed cause one he can move on his own two he has the memory's of the guy in the bed three when Umbra Excal choked your operator you saw his eye so it just makes sense.
I kinda wish De would change some endo cost for mods and also general modding like you know who is building they're melee without fucking pressure point)
There has been some rumor that there is hidden dialogue when you equip the sword on Umbra if you gave him another sword and go back to his default nikana. Is that true?
So I kinda was thinking that I could just port over my build on Excal to Umbra, and didn't think about those mods... Also got rid of 2 of the Umbra polarities cause I thought you could just get them back. Boy was I wrong.
How do i get rid of the Hey Kiddo ghost? He appeared in my Nav room after The Sacrifice and now won't leave. I went all the way to the Focus Room and back.
Is it just me, or does the decision you make influence umbra's color? I chose "wrath" (which for some reason was the "good" i.e. white option). and umbra remained black. When you chose the neutral option, it seemed umbra turned a sort of light gray. Can anybody confirm that this is indeed a thing? Also I believe the alignment of "wrath" (which sounds pretty evil) and "emptiness" (which sounds fairly good, compared to wrath) were reversed. If somebody chooses "emptiness", and the result is a white umbra, then we can say with relative certainty that it does in fact influence the frame's default colors. Edit: BTW excal umbra with dex skin is some juicy shit
so i recently started to play warframe again after a long absence and i gotta ask..... how the fuck does ur Rhino have 40k armor, 3 million energy and a ton of duration???? did he get nerfed like hell in the meantime?
true, but what's the point of a reaction/stream then? to see someones mundane still shot of them being snide and snarky with small comments here or there with no variability, or to have someone react and have entertainment value and contributing worth the watch? if you wanted to watch the quest, you'd watch just the quest, not the streamer. things don't have to be in the extremes of being a fucking potato or being a fake hyperactive twit.
well i mean all that is just your opinion. people like what they like, you don't like brozime - thats fine, other people think differently. i made this comment 4 days ago so i don't really care enough anymore to go into detail. have a good day.
never said i didn't like Brozime haha, i think he's informative and very smart. just because i don't like an aspect of something or someone doesnt mean i hate them and just because i like something or someone, doesnt mean i have to like every single bit about it either. yea my bad for the late response honestly, i didn't realize i had a reply to this. either way the point still stands, i'm not talking in an opinionated side, i'm talking about what generally people actually would watch, subscribe, and invest into in a majority sense. it's why some streamers are more popular than others. it just happens to fall upon my opinion as well but isn't scaffolded by my opinion. also thank you and have a great day as well
I think the rewards were great, a lot better than most quests. Theres just no new system yet for more content afterwards like what riven mods brought (as shit as they are)
An entire archive @_@ can we expect like breakdown vids about umbra and the mods?
Yup there will be breakdowns for each significant part
The "...and take away its pain." and that speech is one of the most powerful story pieces of Warframe. I cried playing through this. Eyes watery again.
It’s the reason why this is the only grindy game I’ve ever played… the story carries me through it (with a lot of help from the artists and music)
One thing I would like to point out, the options aren't a case of "Good, Neutral, Evil" it's more like "Yin (White, Emotion, Justice) , Neutral, Yang (Black, Dispassion, Pragmatism)", and so as such swearing revenge and making evil bastards grovel are very much in the wheelhouse of Yin.
Yin is the black and yang is the white, you got those swapped :) Other than that, yes, that's what the options feel like - the sun is aggressive action, the moon is passive and neutral is just that, neutrality.
I personally like the "neutral" option because the other ones seem too extreme and seem to lead down a more specific path. The "neutral" options are more of a "I'm better than all of you so I'll do things THIS way."
I kinda prefer to be more human than a dispassionate machine myself, I mean my Operator is a litteral child forced to be an adult and a warrior.
Umbra mods on Inaros... *MMMM*
Because who doesn't love ungodly amounts of EHP?
Ding Dong who said that?
The Protagonist I can't see his comment, did he delete it? Lol
We can use but can't forma for it
And Inaros doesn't even need the power strength... now imagine those on Nidus...
Nidus might be the only frame to legitimately use them since that's all he needs: health, armor, and power strength.
2:17:40 No, its not the "good" option.
The white is the "yang", and yang is among other things also "aggressive"/blunt/open in its approach, hence the fire symbolism in the choice.
Yin is the covert, subdued. If you relate it warfare: yang (white) would be the brazen soldier on the field, attacking enemies up front. Yin would be the agent/spy/diplomat, spinning intrigues.
Or in Martial Arts: Yang is the offensive, the projecting of force. Yin the defensive deflection/absorbtion of an incoming force.
There is a diamond planet in Tau system IRL. Like it's made of diamonds. If we could go there that'd be neat.
Not if you're the only one who's going there~
The gravity on a planet like that would kill you instantly. Even a robot would get smooshed instantly. You'd have to admire a planet like that from a distance. And you're definitely not going to be able to mine it and make all the money.
5:26 Stream Start
Gira thanks man :)
It's umm... IIIIIIIIT'S HAMMER TIIIIME!
21:30 start of quest
Much appreciated
I know this is old but i still prefare the old more vibrante visuals of warframe compared to now
You can actually level up those mods... and their power increases when they are a set.
So the Umbra Vitality actually goes up to 770% HP increase instead of 440%.
No shit? Brozime said that like a million times for all the dumbasses that kept asking the same damn question XD
Something I haven't seen mentioned all that much is the fact that Excal Umbra could almost just be a one-off way of giving "Excal Prime" access to non-founders without upsetting founders. I think it's a really awesome move, but it could mean that there are no more umbra frames coming.
Like Brozime said, even if more ARE coming... we don't even have all the prime frames yet - so waiting on umbra frames to get umbra polarities to use mods on a specific Warframe will just feel terrible. Hopefully polarizing for umbra slots becomes possible in some way in the near-ish future!
We're going to Tau to get space mom confirmed
Warning: contains potential (minor- ish) spoilers. Do NOT read, if you wanna try/ experience things for yourself!
Just in case someone still needs (or wants) a way of understanding how those orokin "riddles" work:
the symbols always come in pairs. one of the symbols is a "link", to another pair of symbols (so the "link" has to be part of both pairs). Let's take the easy example first with letters known to us all (marking the "link" in capitals).
1) 3- part riddle. 2 pairs of symbols: ir + ai. Taking the above mentioned system the symbol that is in both pairs, is "the link". so we get Ir + aI. Putting that in order: aIr (air) => solved.
2) 5- part riddle. 4 pairs of symbols: ic + us + si + mu. As before we're looking for those symbols, that are in two pairs so we get Ic + US + SI + mU. Now we're going to look, how we can connect those, leading us to mU + US + SI + Ic => mUSIc (music).
The orokin riddles work the same way. Just the symbols are different. This explanation is just in case, DE will, at some point, not give you the "partial" solutions (like with the 2nd riddle, when they combine things for you, to make it clear, they belong together, while "randomly" slapping symbols together).
minor-ish spoilers ahead:
side notes: I've seen two youtuber so far. And both payed no attention to the map at all, when being busy with the first riddle. It's totally unimportant, but a bit funny :D
Oh.. .and the fights operator vs umbra are quite a hustle, when you have an unskilled operator with starter amp. 250 live and low dmg are no fun there. Luckily in the 2nd fight his shields won't recharge, so you can die through that part of the mission >.>
oh... and "needing" 200k endo for those new mods. I still haven't fully leveled my primed mods, I use regularly...
ok
1:20:01 Brozime! I am here from the future (because I wanted to cry over Smiles from Juran and reactions to the Sacrifice again) but I come to say you're correct! We do, in fact, time travel!
...just 6 years later.
I can already see it now Lotus is going to be the boss fight of Lua
Justin Pruett tau*
1:21:52 XD his reaction
198,000 endo. 9.5 million credits.
Just to max those Umbral and Sacrificial mods.
Fml.
Don´t know why people always think the white plate is "good".
I mean everything is on fire in it!
I think the black one is more peacefull.
but still I´m balanced, soooo
The alignment system isn't "Good vs Evil". It's "Emotional" vs "Apathetic"; or better yet, "Heart" vs "Mind"; "Emotion" vs "Logic"
Like when you had the first choice regarding Umbra's memory, the "Emotional" choice was Wrath, and the "Apathetic" choice was Emptiness.
Vs Ballas, calling him a maggot is the "Emotional" choice, whereas saying the cycle is broken is just being "Apathetic" about what happened.
20 minute quest put in an 8 hour long stream. What could go wrong?
Stranger it’s like an hour quests dude
Brozime is like that girl watching movies that is always asking questions not realizing that if they just shut up it they would know
I'm seriously glad you can't forma those umbra polarities. They are so good you would need two or three new forma for so many Warframes, and it would kind of ruin the uniqueness of Umbra frames.
basisti94 aaaannnnnd now we can
Marcus Peterson yeah but it’s one per night wave so it’s balanced out
Aaand now we can buy umbra forma
man...Zime is a BEAST...Like imagine being a Grineer soldier and hearing his excal umbra is on your ship...shiiieet i'd be making a B-line to the nearest escape pod
Am I the only on who’s happy that lotus isn’t back?
No you are not my fine sir.
...he said "back" not "black"
I kept this on all night and it still had an hour before it finished when I woke up at 7
17:50 Brozime about Excalibur Mains seeing their Excalibur's Exalted Blade Stance:
"My... my Exalted Blade is just a common Bitch thing... :'("
2:12:09 selects earth, goes to saturn
I want that scarf around other frame :(
YESSS. I've been checking TH-cam, waiting for just this!! can't wait!!
I can't wait for this to hit PS4
BroZime: "Anyone who makes their fucking Excalibur umbra red and black is going to use that (helmet)."
Me: -.-; "...you got me."
It would be nice if DE had been secretly working on another story quest behind the scenes to release with the Eidolon Warframe coming out. But, a man can dream.
Rhino lmao, wish i was there for the stream. Good play through brozime
Holy shit. I haven’t seen Broz’s Rhino before. He’s fucking jacked.
.........Oh my god I forgot about "Orokin Derelict" being a location on the star chart lmao. That took me by surprise, I saw that's where you were parked at the start and I was like "what the hell is THAT place and how have I not unlocked it when I'm past this quest in the main line"
2:57:46 Freezer: Get down mister president!
Ordis: "An Orokin cypher. They can't be hacked because they take it directly from your memory!"
Bro: "Can we not just brute force this?"
xD
Kerrigan was my first thought as well. Not complaining in the slightest, because Kerrigan is straight awesome.
Also, I didn't catch the inverted Second Dream line when I played through it. "This is who you are" versus "This... is what I am."
So am I correct in discerning that the Umbra Warframes are the first batch of frames that were created before the discovery of the Tenno? At which point the Prime Warframes were created as the biomachines for the Tenno to use? And the normal frames are just bastardized versions of the primes?
If so, does this lead to the idea that all Umbra Warframes would have both the original warframe passive, as well as the ability to function independent of the operator? As in Umbra Warframes were people who still maintain sentience but form a bond with the Tenno?
do you think that the new umbra mods will affect how you build for excal and if so will there be a video for that
44:30 killed me😂😂😂
1:43:37 Meet your new God-King
Knox Inna Box needs to be a stream highlight
That reaction to the idea of umbral inaros. Perfection.
With Chromatic Blade I've gone Gas/Cold since Excal can still blind. That should be better than Viral Electric right?
Dax Syandana looks amazing. I think I'll buy the Sacrifice Collection
power drift + umbral intensify + 181% power str, enough for 100% statuson chromatic blade, rather than negative duration from trans
dunno if anyone told you but komi is the warframe equivalent of an ancient japanese(?) board game called go, you basically got the concept from komi but go uses a much larger board.
3:12 Stream starts
1:43:36
the "oh shit" moment lol
I’m excited to try the new Titania. With her Dex Pixia scaling off secondary mods now that should be insane. I was using shotguns before for the extra damage from primed point blank
I like that the high and mighty Orokin play baby tutorial Go.
It shows their flaw. They do not stratagize or think in the long term.
LMAOOOO I KNEW he was talking about DK when he said "anyone that makes the frame red and blk blahblah"
Have to admit... That mod set up on Inaros if fucking STUPID powerful
this explains how your frame saves you in the second dream (maybe it liked you) but does this mean stalker/shadow is an umbra like frame?
The sacrifice only is 1 hour long how 8 hour stream
Why did you use viral on your excal?
Yes. Market UI is the bane of my existence.
1:43:37
I hope we get a way to forma for the umvra polarity in the future.. make it three/fourtimes more expensive than normal formas but evem then I'd be worth it.
How does Brozime have Mesa's regulator fire that fast? Starting at 5:06:25
1:23:00 Your amp does a lot of damage
This was a fun stream to watch
u cant polarize the new umbra polarity cause it doesn't make sense lore wise or gameplay wise, they are unique to the umbra frames ,that is the biggest part of what makes them special than other frames
Shehab Yehia strickly better you mean
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!
[X] YES
[ ] NO
What is the Tau system??
Louis Fleming presumably it's a solar system, back in the orokin era they sent the sentients to the Tau system to colonize it for the orokin. Long story short, the sentients returned and waged war with the orokin and orokin in turned created the Warframes to effectively combat the sentients.
SnowHawk64339 thank you
Does anyone else think Umbra Excalibur didn't have a operator and was the person in the bed? Cause when ballas kept calling Issah your son I already knew it wasn't issah that's Umbra Excal. And the reason why I think Umbra Excal was the person in the bed cause we already knew that warframe were infested so he was being infested which lead to him killing issah also it would make sense that Umbra Excal was the guy in the bed cause one he can move on his own two he has the memory's of the guy in the bed three when Umbra Excal choked your operator you saw his eye so it just makes sense.
RiceBanana you’re a moron the person in the bed was already said to be excel the person excal kills is his son
Nobody said it was the other way around
I kinda wish De would change some endo cost for mods and also general modding like you know who is building they're melee without fucking pressure point)
There has been some rumor that there is hidden dialogue when you equip the sword on Umbra if you gave him another sword and go back to his default nikana. Is that true?
No, but I noticed Helminth has a different dialogue when you innoculate Umbra.
@@wyrmoffastring What's said?
Man ballas just pulled off a dio move.
There has! HAS to be a redemption story!
So I kinda was thinking that I could just port over my build on Excal to Umbra, and didn't think about those mods... Also got rid of 2 of the Umbra polarities cause I thought you could just get them back. Boy was I wrong.
Wow you managed to totally gimp your Umbra... *clap*
Xan Kreigor That's what happens when you try and rush the hour of play you have after an 8 hour car ride.
Y I K E S
id like to see rhino umbra if anything but its gona be like 15 years untill then witch is sad
i forma'd my excal just to play thru it as excal, good shit
Ohhh shit
8 hours, not sleeping tonight bois
Teshinn has nothing to do with this. Ugh.
Its Umbra. And Umbra's son Issah. Did like noone pay attention?
There’s been criminally few Umbras with the pakal set on, seeing as it’s literally the same frame stalker uses.
How do you get the umbra?
timestamps please
What the hell? How does your operator move fast and does ninja moves and has a weapon looking thing in his hand?
POE and Maxing out your focus.
Wait. It's here
Quick message that if you watch on twitch you’ll earn the twitch drops
How do i get rid of the Hey Kiddo ghost? He appeared in my Nav room after The Sacrifice and now won't leave. I went all the way to the Focus Room and back.
i did it with ashe that was good fun
Lollis eating CRAB
Is it just me, or does the decision you make influence umbra's color? I chose "wrath" (which for some reason was the "good" i.e. white option). and umbra remained black. When you chose the neutral option, it seemed umbra turned a sort of light gray. Can anybody confirm that this is indeed a thing? Also I believe the alignment of "wrath" (which sounds pretty evil) and "emptiness" (which sounds fairly good, compared to wrath) were reversed. If somebody chooses "emptiness", and the result is a white umbra, then we can say with relative certainty that it does in fact influence the frame's default colors.
Edit: BTW excal umbra with dex skin is some juicy shit
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lmao every guess of his was wrong
so i recently started to play warframe again after a long absence and i gotta ask.....
how the fuck does ur Rhino have 40k armor, 3 million energy and a ton of duration????
did he get nerfed like hell in the meantime?
1:25:33 😢😢😭
21:07 Quest Begins m8s
That poor 🦀
Howl is fcking op now lmao
First time feeling like a peasant to be on console
Welcome to reality.
how the fuck do you tilt in space
I'm still bothered by the morality compass assigned to those quest choices. How is "SQUIRM LIKE A MAGGOT" a good/white choice? xD
always lookin bored af like no fun allowed
at least he's not all "FUUUCKINNNNNNGGGGG WHOOOOOAAAA DUUUUUDEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" with fake and exaggerated reactions like a lot of streamers.
true, but what's the point of a reaction/stream then? to see someones mundane still shot of them being snide and snarky with small comments here or there with no variability, or to have someone react and have entertainment value and contributing worth the watch? if you wanted to watch the quest, you'd watch just the quest, not the streamer. things don't have to be in the extremes of being a fucking potato or being a fake hyperactive twit.
well i mean all that is just your opinion. people like what they like, you don't like brozime - thats fine, other people think differently. i made this comment 4 days ago so i don't really care enough anymore to go into detail. have a good day.
never said i didn't like Brozime haha, i think he's informative and very smart. just because i don't like an aspect of something or someone doesnt mean i hate them and just because i like something or someone, doesnt mean i have to like every single bit about it either. yea my bad for the late response honestly, i didn't realize i had a reply to this. either way the point still stands, i'm not talking in an opinionated side, i'm talking about what generally people actually would watch, subscribe, and invest into in a majority sense. it's why some streamers are more popular than others. it just happens to fall upon my opinion as well but isn't scaffolded by my opinion. also thank you and have a great day as well
so uh i threw on an extra couple of mods (using your build) and my inaros has 9,529 hp now :) Kill me :)
dude you needed to go to bathroom during the defense but do not let umbra out to play...... it has AI.
Umbruh
Why does broezime look like an angry pea Head
Anyone else really underwhelmed by The Sacrifice?
Not at the quest, but I agree with Brozime that the lack of an endgame system is disappointing...
no, the sacrifice quest itself was great. the rewards and "system" was the only thing that was underwhelming
brengland13 nope
I think the rewards were great, a lot better than most quests. Theres just no new system yet for more content afterwards like what riven mods brought (as shit as they are)
The fact we couldn’t kill our operators and them be gone for good pissed me off
Sub 500 squad