Best Boost Pedal For Tweed Amps...?? (Rangemaster, Klon, Hudson Broadcast & More!!)
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Very often, I see the topic of Tweed amps come up on forums...just how can/do you boost them without the low end flubbing out? Is there any way to stop that from happening? If the amp is already distorting, how can you make it louder? What's the best pedal to use?
Today, I wanted to look into this and show you five of my favourite pedals for boosting my Cornell Romany Plus...essentially a Fender Tweed Champ circuit with a 12 inch speaker. I'll be running it in half power mode and with the EQ defeated - so it's as close as possible to an old Champ - and also turn it up to the point where it's really starting to work.
Most of the pedals are centred around increasing perceived 'loudness' by boosting the aggressive upper mids and shelving off low end to stop the amp flubbing out. But sometimes, a full-frequency boost to accentuate the sag can be fun too for some Neil Young vibes :-)
What do you think? Which was your favourite? Would you choose something else? Comment below!
Guitar is a Heritage H-535 w/ Monty's PAFs - recorded through a Cornell Romany Plus (Celestion AlNiCo Blue; '70s Sennheiser MD441 & sE R1 ribbon) with a Schoeps CMC6 vocal mic.
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jp@joeperkins.co.uk
0:00 Intro
3:22 Rangemaster Treble Boost
6:29 Tube Compressor
9:25 Klon
10:59 Full Frequency Boost
12:48 Pedals With High-Pass Filters
16:33 Outro
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I've got a Romany 10 from 2003. Your video has helped me to get more from the amp. I'm also a lefty! Thanks
And this video convinced me to get a High Power Twin instead a BF Twin for my violin + pedals rig. Thanks a bunch! 💜
The rangemaster sounds like Faces era Ronny Wood. I've been searching for that elusive sound.
I have an RC booster and it’s awesome with my tweed deluxe because you can actually subtract bass from the signal going to the amp along with clean boosting the amp. It’s pretty great for these tweeds
Yep - similar concept to the Broadcast :-) A good HPF is wonderful for boosting a tweed!
Exactly! The RC booster (V2 Scott Henderson) and the Analogman KOT are my favorites into a Tweed Deluxe. A modded Boss EQ pedal is quite nice as well.
The ZVex distortron is great into a tweed amp. It's a box of rocks with a 3 position bass cut/hi pass switch to dial in/pull low end out so it doesn't flub out. I've had a 5e3 clone I built and just got an original 53 5b3 a few months back. I know a lot of people just dime them but really they sound best between 3-7 on the volume. At that volume you can really put anything in front of them :)
This is an interesting and controversial topic because Tweed amps are famous for their natural overdrive tone, so the best way to "boost" a Tweed is to turn up the volume (a la Neil Youg) but you get the "problem" of the flubby bass.
I don't have a Tweed amp but a Brownface Deluxe which has a similar overdrive sound but with a tighter lower end, but, in terms of how to boost this amp you have the same issue that you have with a Tweed.
Like you, i use a Rangemaster, a tube overdrive/boost (right now a CTS Space Charged V2 but soon joined by a Kingsley pedal) and a compressor.
For compressor i use my Cali76CD and i really enjoy the use of a compressor with this type of amp for single note melody and solos because it increase the sustain and push the amp without increasing the mids in an amp with already a good amount of mids.
I have been waiting for a video on this topic. Keep it up man.
Cool video, I have a Romany and a Broadcast and use it exactly like this. It’s a great combination
I totally agree on the hi pass filter. I discovered how well it works for cleaning up my Tweed Princeton using the EQ plug ins in Logic. I dumped everything below 70Hz, and it was like the sun coming through the clouds. You can also fine tune the response by playing with the slope angle as well.
A few years back, I found an old Furman PQ-3 parametric EQ, ( it's the green one, single rack space unit) in the used gear section for $50. It uses the same dual op amp chip as the Tube screamer, but it's a thousand times more versatile because you can dial your mids with surgical precision. Boosts will also drive a single ended amp like the Princeton into overdrive. It's such a glorious analog thing that they should offer it as a plug in.
Another dirt simple trick with tweeds is to use something like a Princeton Reverb along with it. I call this the "sparkler and growler" technique. Just play with the levels until you get something you like, and you're done! Keith Richards figured this out when he got his first Tweed Twin and used it along with one of those super clean Ampegs he used to use.
It's just a matter of finding the balance between the two.
I tell you all this because I can see that you are on a tone quest, and it looks like you're serious about it, so I share a couple of things I've discovered over the years.
Try the usual sources. (Ebay, Reverb, etc.) If an old Furman PQ-3 turns up at an affordable price, grab it. You'll be glad you did.
It's one of the great ones that slipped under the radar.
Ur one of my favorite channels Joe, just wanted to let u know, cus i know we as guitar players dont often get much encouragement, keep em comin!
Thanks mate - much appreciated! :-)
Interesting vid. I prefer a silicon treble booster, particularly with humbuckers, for the lack of the nasal mid-range.
Nice presentation there Joe, Well done
Full frequency boost was cool! I like that heavy thick tone! Too many guys dont get that huge tone anymore, this is better. The broadcast one and the last one were cool too.
Great demo. This is my approach to tone. A single channel amp with just enough grit, then a good pedal in front of it. This way I have just the right amount of gain, retain clarity, and I can roll down my volume for cleans or bypass the pedal and run chorus. This has been my method going back to the 80s. I've owned a number of high gain amps, but I'm much more of a pedal guy. I like warm tube distortion with a good kick from a pedal. Now, depending on the pickups on a guitar e.g. humbuckers vs single coils, high output vs low, that's another set of parameters to consider for dialing in the perfect tone. But this is my philosophy for getting the right tone. One thing I always recommend to players is to listen to their tone in a recording and in a live situation. If you have a wireless, then I recommend walking through the venue during soundcheck (unless it's got an audience packed in already) and see how your tone is at the back of the room. I've often been surprised by difference in the tone we think we have while close to the amp and the tone the world hears. I did a series of gigs with my old Mesa back int he 80s before I realized how much distortion I was using. When I walked the perimeter at an outdoor gig one night, I dialed the gain way down and it was still more than enough, and it sounded incredible.
I like using the Analogman AstroTone into my Tweed Deluxe. The tone knob on the AstroTone is also a high pass filter, so as you turn clockwise giving more treble it also shelves off the low end. Cheers Joe !
Yep - anything with a high-pass filter is great for tightening up the flabby lows of Tweeds :-)
Good video! Joe, I use a Caitlinbread Naga Viper for my treble boost (it is life changing), and an MXR Fat Sugar overdrive. These are clones of the Range Master and Klon Centaur that won’t break the bank.
You’re a cool guy man. You seem super friendly and down to earth
Thanks mate :-) Appreciated!
Good demo....I can add the Boss OD1X to this list. Set my tweed with some breakup, good for chunky chords, roll guitar volume back to clean that up. And for lead work, wing guitar volume full up and step on the OD-1X. Nothing new or earth shattering here, just saying the Boss OD-1X is also a great match for tweed amps.
Love that guitar!!
One of my favourites!
Excellent. Liked and sub’d. 😎🤘
Cheers John - welcome! :-)
Great great video! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Just tried the Tubesteader tube boost, really grear results. Are your humbucker guitars relatively brighter and more resonant compared to modern models?
Just made my Beekeeper video live this morning - great pedal! And yeah, I do tend to prefer brighter guitars - most of them are lower output, unpotted PAFs with slightly overvalued (550k) pots and 50's wiring so they stay brighter when rolling the volume down. Vintage guitars in general _tend_ to be brighter than higher output modern ones.
You rock kind sir!
Effectrode Fire Bottle for me, into a Supro Blues King 8,though I would like to try an Analogman Beano boost.
You rock kind sir!
Hey Joe can you do a video explaining the whole series/parallel thing in general as it applies to guitars, for us non electrical tech players, who are just learning about this tech stuff? And what is this wet box thing?
Would take a bit of piecing together, but that might be one I could do - I'll give it some thought and see if I can come up with anything interesting. The Wet Box essentially blends between your dry signal and the effect - so with my compressor, I can set it very squishy and then bring the uncompressed sound in underneath to bring some of the 'snap' back. I'll see if I can come up with a video to explain it all :-)
Just use a 2/12 cab Back in the day we used a LPB-1 one of the best simple boosts ever for low power amps There advertiser said makes your amp 10 times louder and it did Made all my old fenders sound great
I've got one of the earliest LPB1s and it does sound pretty sweet into most things! :-)
They reissued the LPB-1 a few years ago. They sound the same, but now they have a cast aluminum box and jacks on both sides. Those flimsy tin boxes and male plug on one side were awkward, and they used to break all the time. They sounded great though and I used to go through those things like socks or BIC lighters, but I kept buying them because I loved them.
The new ones are a lot more robust, and they'll last.
@@JoePerkinsMusic one thing you do have to watch out for is old speakers. An LPB 1 will annihilate an old dried out cone or a weak voice coil. Make sure your speaker is up to the task. I found this out the hard way.
Are these all necessarily TREBLE boosts, or are some of them general boosts? Did you ever try a Hawk boost? That is what Rory used later on. They make them re-issue in Scotland. I dont think we can get them here in USA. Can you make a video of the Hawkboost with Stratocaster into classic fender amps?
I've not tried a Hawk, but I saw that Flynn amps make one so I might see if I can get hold of one some day. These aren't all treble boosts - the Beano is, but things like the Broadcast and Page are much more full-frequency and 'general'. Different types of boosts for different effects :-)
I noticed that you have a lot of treble booster type pedals like the one from Analog man, Williams audio, and others. Which is your favorite? And which do you think is the closest to the original?
I've never played an original so I couldn't really say which is most 'accurate'. The Beano and the Williams are my two favourites - the Golden Ranger I've got has an original OC44 transistor in it though, which I _believe_ is what the earliest Rangemasters used, so I guess on paper that's the most accurate! They all sound pretty close to each other, though.
I am sitting in exactly the same chair right now...
the catalinbread naga viper - modern retake on a rangemaster - i love mine but i also have ge rangemaster thata tough to beat . they sound very close
Best boost for a tweed would have to be the Fairfield Circuitry Barbershop or the Metropolus Supa Boost
Are their any smooth fender amps without the mid scoop? For clean R&B soul cords for recording.
A tweed or brownface Deluxe will do that! Not extreme headroom, but perfect for the studio. Back off the guitar volume to clean up the amp.
Try a Hot Cake and play with the presence control 😉
Never tried a Hot Cake - would love to though!
What's the best OD pedal for my 58 super amp? Ive tried ts808 , old bods super od, ep boost and a roger mayer vodoo1. They just don't sound right
Tried a Klon-style pedal?
@Joe Perkins i just plugged in a soul finger. I find it better for a boost . Would i be crazy to use 2 one for boost one for dirty
@@physiciansassist1 Definitely not crazy - boosting it will give you more of what you already have, so if you like the core sound of your amp, boosts are the way to go!
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