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Your reviews are the reason I purchased my first lumatek 600w Pro, just about to purchase my second! Thanks for the great work, it has help soo many people I know, Top man!
@@winstonpratt604 wrong. If you want to support Shane or Migro get your facts strait. For a long long time Shane did these tests for FREE. Only in the last month has he decided his time is worth money so now he gets a small kickback of some sort. Shame is a humble and honourable man. Kick rocks and move on if you think otherwise.
I love how within the first mili second you can tell what videos are “professional”. This man has everything he ever wanted probably, why? because he is professional..
You forgot to tell about the intelligent driver, you can take bars out and the driver will adjust wattage, so you can use it in a 4x4 or 5x5 without co2
The amount of quality information this channel provides is great! Can't wait to see what lights you test in the future. Maybe some more "budget" offerings? ✌️
Shane your profesionalism helps the entire industry to healthy compete and improve and growers to optimaze their budget and grow better. I'm preaty sure you work helps a lot more people than your suscribers number sugests. Love the camera work, you look more relax and focus on the review!. Congrats
just like CLTV mentioned, the quality of the video is insane man, whatever camera setup or person with the camera setup you're using, keep that up. Always checking out your channel to see what's good and what shit in the LED world. Lifelong subscriber from me my dude
Supplementing CO2 is such an interesting technique. I could imagine a symbiotic farm combination to be a mushroom farm next to a horticultural farm which is supplied with the excess waste CO2 released by the mushrooms. And maybe the mushroom farm vice versa since mushrooms seem to have a tendency to grow more firm and Heavy under enhanced O2 levels.
Wow thanks for this Shane this is not a beast it is a mythical creature brought forth to life, huge props to Photontek for this I am running 2 Lumii 600w ballasts for 8 months and no problems so far, since I found this channel and started learning about leds I really want to change but costing of the change over is stiff, please keep up the great content and stay safe, much love and respect.
Finally Shane!!!!!🌝 THANK YOU for testing a light that pushes the limits of power and technology. People have no idea the kind of yields these lights can produce. My F10 (960 watt@wall) recently yielded 5.21 pounds for 2 Moby Dick under a 4' by 4'. The boys on the GML Show #77 talked about the harvest and showed pics. Completely amazing Results.
I love Steven's HLG company ♥️ I have 2- HLG 550 V2's running together in a SINGLE 4'x4'. Together they blow away any single Scorpion Diablo but only pulled 4.75 pounds total so not worth mentioning until now. Basically I had to pass on the Scorpion Diablo, its underpowered and lacking in a few aspects compared to the F10. BTW my F10 uses Samsung lm301h's, Osram 660 far red +730 IR, Soule 395nm UV, it is awesome!!🌝
Great video as always. I wanted to mention for those unaware that co2 addition will also increase your heat as co2 is a much greater insulation gas than air which is mostly nitrogen ( inert ) also 1 watt = 3.8 btu, true for ANY electronics 1 btu is approx the heat created burning a single wooden match. A human at rest = 400 btuh.. im saying it's a beauty light, but don't forget to consider temps, especially if adding co2 :)
Lol I asked a question I was struggling with. But you answered it in an old vid.. So I deleted the question not to look the eejit.. Any thank you sir for all your hard work. And so happy I saw your older vids to solve my problem.. Witch was about small grow led, light.. Thank you again .. Topman.. 👏
I have one there brilliant 🤩 I upgraded from a sf4000 spider farmer to the lumatek version there brilliant i never had buds like this before happy growing people
I got a custom 8 bar setup. Samsung 301b(3500k/4500k mix), Osram red (660nm and 730nm mix) 10 total on each bar. Inventronics driver. It is an absolute beast. 18 inches away gotta keep it at 50% w/ CO2
If you hang it at a distance of 12" (30 cm) from the top of the cannabis, turn it on at 100% and add CO2, will it be good or will the plants get a light burn? What should be the minimum distance from the tops of the plants?
Absolutely entertaining and informative. Light specs, tons of detail. And what I liked most was the discussion of the addition of CO2, and the brief explanation that made all the par readings suddenly click for me. 💚💚💚💚✌️🥳 this channel is on my channels page. Much appreciation!
Just picked one up. Upgrading from gavita pro 1700e. I'm pulling 1 1/2 pounds from the gavita pro in a 5x5 tent. Next grow imma do two 5x5 grows, compare both one with photontek co2 and gavita pro without co2. And got a deal on the photontek @1200 with shipping
Thank you for keeping this channel alive great review and light can you do more HLG I know they have no new lights out I just got the 350r would love to see that light on here thanks again Shane
Shane I have to ask a question , and please forgive me if I put you on the spot but in comparison with the chilled ultra 600w or 1000w I believe it is . Which one is actually better value for money in terms of efficiency and par value . 🤔 or to make it easier which would you consider for the better light (just in your own opinion as a consumer) ?
Great fixture. I love my Photontek X600W Pro People complain that they are made in china...... but everything other companies build their lights from all comes from china anyways. Good quality can and does come from china if your willing to pay. Peace ✌🏻
@@deplaneetegmont hello. If your asking about the Photontek X600watt pro.... I run it at 50% power during vegetive growth and 75% in flower. Last 2 weeks i bump it to 100%. I keep the fixture 2 feet or 24 inches above during veg and drop it to 8-12 inches during flower. If you run this fixture on 100% you will probably need to add CO2 and not just those mushroom bags or TNB bottles. At 75% if you stay 8-12 inches away you should have no issues with the plants. However environment and genetics will be a factor. Happy growing good luck and peace ✌🏻
@@user-sm9mh3bv3l Hi, thx for the info. I have the Lumatek 600 watt pro, it's my first run. I turned it to 75% late veg and the next day they were starting to yellow and drooping, bending their heads, as if they were trying to hide from the light. Turned it back to 50% and up to 3 feet to give them some rest, this was about a week ago and they are still recovering. Pfff. And this is chocolate haze, which is supposedly 95% sativa. I think I'm gonna play it safe for now, maybe not even going to 100% this first run. I don't have the extra CO2, but everything else is good, temp is a bit on the low side, about 22 °C, RH at 45-50%. It's surprisingly difficult to find some decent information on how to use this light, so thanks for the reply. Good luck to you too. Peace
@@deplaneetegmont agreed on the info being sparse. I also have Gavita 1700ePro fixtures and very little is spoken of them as well in regards to use. I think they assume when a consumer is purchasing these calibre of lights that the consumer generally has an idea on growing. All lights do create a slightly different response from plants. I don’t think you would ever need 100% unless your light was very high above the canopy. Happy growing and peace. The yellowing of the leaves wouldn’t be a light issue. The turning of the leaves would be though. Happy growing
Wow great info wish it was more affordable by the way looks like your new camera is working beautiful great clear HD quality niccceeee and thank you for all your time and hard work and great information stay safe and God bless
well, i wouldn't in veg stage if your in a tight room, it will make veg grow faster and you might have more stretching, i would run definitely in flower for sure.
Lol I actually used to use tyvek suits to go in my grow space lol I remove asbestos for a living too.. So I get boxes of em for free All the white poly ill ever need too. But absolutely fantastic light.
The new Technologys efficiency goes up, price comes down. But the cost and complexity of the moving system stayed (about the same). You can see the same thing in Photovoltaic power generation. Financially it's better to build a fixed system instead of a sun-tracking one. Moving parts break and a technician' is getting more expensive every year
@@sacballa_kills_em_wit_facts Drying in the tent now at 51% RH and room temp. The light is terrific. Easy to remove light bars and sides without having to take the whole light fixture out and hang what I’m drying from the ceiling poles. Lot of things I’ve learned in my first budget grow. Drip feed timed irrigation system is the direction I want to go.
Very nice, love your vids. I was looking at these but you do allot of lights I haven't seen. I seen this one but not like how you do it. Thank you, really help with my next big purchase. I'm hitting like on everything I watch and watch some vids two or three times. You get that Tony Montana costume yet for holloween???😁
Here's the info that I was after, and I'll share with the class. 20" at 1500ppfd means 24.5" is 1k, and 34.6" is 500. So 10.1" kolas between 1k & 500ppfd. This is how you stack 50oz into a 5x5 without CO2. 👊
Olysean92 25” hanging height sounds about right to me as well mate. Example your “10.1 kolas between 1k &500ppfd please dude so I can grasp your point please?? Every days a learning day. Thanks bud.
@@danieladams1733 a fixture that is physically 5x5, with 300 watts of perfectly placed, very efficient light, you could achieve a nearly perfect 1000 in every box of the par map, 2 inches away. Light obeys the inverse square law (2x distance=1/4ppfd), so if you have 1000 at 2", you have 250 at 4". Kolas form above 500, and exponentially smaller popcorn forms below. So 1k at 2" achieves 500 at 2.8". .8" "kolas." Hitting 1000ppfd at 24.5", means 34.65" hits 500ppfd. 10.1" kolas. A perfect par map is just where growing indoors begins. Depth is the key to weight per square foot. I use a 274w FC3000 in a 32x32. Effectively the same as 950w in a 5x5. This is how I shape my canopy to pull 14 oz from 7 square feet with 8" kolas. Above is scorch. Below is larf. The center is a band of gold that all resources must be targeting.👊
@@GeofryMasters to make sure we're all talking about the same thing, larf is leaves. Stems. Anything you can't smoke or press. Literally trash without purpose. Popcorn is the tiny nugs that form below 500ppfd. Trim is everything that comes off the nugs before curing. Kolas are where nugs connect above 500ppfd. If the coldest, darkest nug is at 500ppfd, there is no popcorn, nevermind larf. I don't count trim as yield. So I can't figure out what what part of my canopy you count as "larf." But if you pull more than 2oz per square foot of smokeable, sellable nugs, with less than 37w/sqft, I'd love to hear your recipe.
@@olysean92 No, maybe in small circles thats what ppl call larf but in the industry larf is anything that is considered popcorn nugs and I can guaranfuckentee you aren't getting 3.1 lbs of top shelf from your canopy.
The issue I have with this video is it simply implies that you can get a CO2 tank and this what I can only imagine to be this very expensive light, and double your yield. It does not take into account the changes that one would have to make in your grow space for example to handle the additional heat, or that you may need additional equipment like an upgraded AC unit to operate this light long term. I'm not saying that the light isn't a good one, I'm just saying that like with your PAR app video you are misleading the viewer by not giving them all the information. I used to really like this channel, felt that it was unbiased and honest. I no longer feel that way and do not believe I will be watching any longer. Take this advice with a grain of salt folks.
Basically if you have a sealed room operation with Ac and co2 supplement this light is the shit for you. If you are now a confident grower who has money and wants to take your growing up a level with using co2 then this lights a good start but prepared to spend. I wouldn't exactly give him a bad comment for this man he speaks on the lighting side of things. Not on cannabis plants co2 or ac terms
So like.. would this actually beat the HLG Scorpion Diablos? That's the number one light on the planet so.. Be interesting to see if this would beat it.
Once upon a time co2 levels were about 1500 ppm, that is why plants such as marijuana love extra co2 up to about that number being the maximum. Great content as always dont forget to like comment and subscribe if your not. Beast of a light.
As far as I know, C3 plants only use up to approx. 1000 ppm, more is a waste. I haven't seen any scientific study proving that cannabis benefits from higher ppms. The effect actually becomes negative at some point, inhibiting the Rubisco enzyme.
1400 to 1500 is the most common max number i have repeatedly, read, heard, used for marijuana over the years. Beyond that number thats correct it becomes toxic. co2 levels are currently about 410 ppm on earth and the number is going up and up from here on out, plants like it but not sure the damage it is doing humans and animals insects etc.. other greenhouse gasses are also increasing along with global temperatures, as us humans continue to pollute and pump enormous amount of oil out of the earth which is a insulator that helps keep the heat from the earths core from escaping into the atmosphere, its replaced with water which does nothing. I hate to see the fucture and the scarry conditions that will be for our children and there children and so on. Man kind is lucky if we have 100 years left on earth.
Now that's a light. This is the type of LED light that a grower wants. Even without the co2. I've been complaining for a few years now. That LED light fixture are to small. And that if your plant or any part of your plant isn't directly under the diodes of the fixture. The growth of your plant is suffering. Due to the fact that the par value drops so much the further you get away from the fixture. This 1000 watts is what's needed to keep those outer edges at the optical par for great growth. I'm excited. Finally something that will help us grow to our full potential.
Hey Shane, awesome work !! i bought the lumatek 600w pro version after your suggestion video :) very happy with the light, Gib Lighting is also releasing a LED called FS 630 with super good value for money it seems , any chance you are reviewing it soon ?
@@winstonpratt604 I believe that this is the new direction for the industry, but we can't get there without manufacturers making the equipment. I'd love to be able to get 3+ kg from a 5x5 on the regular.
@@timpage5021 I mentioned that I have tanks, but I need an efficient distribution and control system. I'll see what my locals have. Propane is not a good option for Summer in Australia.
I’m thinking about getting one for my AC INFINITY 4x8, running (2) sf4000 been good so far, started C02 last run, it was fun , but too hot in cali, so running my tent at night will be very temp efficient, would I run just (1) photon tek C02 pro? Thanks, great video 👍🏿
from the site "Neither PhotonTek Inc. nor any of its associated companies or products are in any way connected to or associated with Lumatek Inc. (USA) or any entity or person trading under the Lumatek trademark in the United States."
My question is this - is there really any need for a light like this? I mean it's freaking awesome, and wouldn't kick it out of my grow room, but unless your saying I can get another 30 percent return I'm not sold. Stick with the 650 model for home grows. Just my opinion
Check it out! Run light at 75% and a 6x6 space without co2 and you will most likely get 10 years of use out of it, now do a cost analysis. Diodes will run a lot more efficiently and last a lot longer at 75% power. Or take out 2 bars and raise light, run at 100% and get better coverage, seems very versatile…. Oh and what about lights breaking? I hear it’s usually one of the bars, well on this light you could just take the broken bar out and send it back, while not missing a beat!
how high would you need to hang this light in a 5x5 to hit 1000 ppfd at the centre of the chart? its interesting that the limiting factor of lights nowadays is now the ppfd per square ft.
No co2 u would want to make the foot print bigger by raising the light trying to hit an average par of . 700/800 ppfd but you would need a par meter or to know what that height would be the manufacturers may show it on there website
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30-40% less heat and 60% more light.
Technology has come far holy moly
Your reviews are the reason I purchased my first lumatek 600w Pro, just about to purchase my second! Thanks for the great work, it has help soo many people I know, Top man!
me 4th haahahahha
Outstanding light the 600w
How many plants can you grow under that light please
production quality of this review is outstanding 👌🏻
Hey there ferret/ weaseldick. Don't question Shane's ethics. Just check out every review for the last 12 months or shut up and GTFO.
@@FluffyFerretFarm soooo? He's paying himself to lose business? Is that what you're trying to say?
@@B.White70 yes that's what he's saying 👏😄 I love his videos but even Shane said it he gets paid for his reviews on certain bigger brands
The haircut of migro guy is unique in yt
@@winstonpratt604 wrong. If you want to support Shane or Migro get your facts strait.
For a long long time Shane did these tests for FREE.
Only in the last month has he decided his time is worth money so now he gets a small kickback of some sort.
Shame is a humble and honourable man.
Kick rocks and move on if you think otherwise.
Damn, did you upgrade cameras or lenses? Quality is even better than usual, killing it man!
i guess thats his new video guy showing off ;)
CLTV I agree ever since he came out with his Vid. about the Future of the CH. He has been Killing It. Love the new Style as well
Cltv baby 🍀💚💚💚🍀
First thing I noticed too.
Sold me on the unit. Just ordered it today. Spider farmers for the veg, this MF for the Flower
I love how within the first mili second you can tell what videos are “professional”. This man has everything he ever wanted probably, why? because he is professional..
Loving the new "studio" style production, Shane! Awesome
You forgot to tell about the intelligent driver, you can take bars out and the driver will adjust wattage, so you can use it in a 4x4 or 5x5 without co2
The amount of quality information this channel provides is great! Can't wait to see what lights you test in the future. Maybe some more "budget" offerings? ✌️
I bought the zeus 600w pro 2.9 because of your rewiew
Same here.
@@markrigg6623 you will love it for sure 👍
Shane your profesionalism helps the entire industry to healthy compete and improve and growers to optimaze their budget and grow better. I'm preaty sure you work helps a lot more people than your suscribers number sugests. Love the camera work, you look more relax and focus on the review!. Congrats
Man, having that driver in a remote, off-light location will not only lighten the light but also decrease a bit of heat in the tent as well.
just like CLTV mentioned, the quality of the video is insane man, whatever camera setup or person with the camera setup you're using, keep that up. Always checking out your channel to see what's good and what shit in the LED world. Lifelong subscriber from me my dude
Supplementing CO2 is such an interesting technique. I could imagine a symbiotic farm combination to be a mushroom farm next to a horticultural farm which is supplied with the excess waste CO2 released by the mushrooms. And maybe the mushroom farm vice versa since mushrooms seem to have a tendency to grow more firm and Heavy under enhanced O2 levels.
U are a mushroom
Hey man you don’t have a patreon do you?!? Your content is so valuable, I would be more than willing to contribute!
No but I think he's got an onlyfans 🤣
@@louche33 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣sik
Pretty sure he does have some way to make contributions. I agree invaluable information!
Louche le douche 😂 fuck im too lit for this ahaha
@@christopherpollard7244 no worries Christopher bollock, enjoy
Wow thanks for this Shane this is not a beast it is a mythical creature brought forth to life, huge props to Photontek for this I am running 2 Lumii 600w ballasts for 8 months and no problems so far, since I found this channel and started learning about leds I really want to change but costing of the change over is stiff, please keep up the great content and stay safe, much love and respect.
Now I understand why I'm hitting a ceiling at 700-800 par.
Incredibly useful information, thanks.
Which light are you using Kira??
Thanks for keeping up the good work Shane, much appreciated
Wow what a light. love how much led lighting has changed and developed so much
I would probably use this light in a small room type setup over a grow tent
You want 700 to 900 ppfd over your entire canopy without c02 suppliment so a grow tent hung a little higher would be ideal
@@MurdahBassRecords is the ppfd the grid with all the numbers?
@@andyhastings4020 correct.
@@MurdahBassRecords thank you
Finally Shane!!!!!🌝 THANK YOU for testing a light that pushes the limits of power and technology. People have no idea the kind of yields these lights can produce. My F10 (960 watt@wall) recently yielded 5.21 pounds for 2 Moby Dick under a 4' by 4'.
The boys on the GML Show #77 talked about the harvest and showed pics. Completely amazing Results.
What do you mean FINALLY testing one that pushes the limits? He did one on the KING of lights.. The HLG Scorpion Diablo. THAT.. Is king of the beasts!
I love Steven's HLG company ♥️ I have 2- HLG 550 V2's running together in a SINGLE 4'x4'. Together they blow away any single Scorpion Diablo but only pulled 4.75 pounds total so not worth mentioning until now. Basically I had to pass on the Scorpion Diablo, its underpowered and lacking in a few aspects compared to the F10. BTW my F10 uses Samsung lm301h's, Osram 660 far red +730 IR, Soule 395nm UV, it is awesome!!🌝
Amazing! With a single Led to remove 5.21 pounds !!! Could you tell me which Led and what manufacturer is it? Thanks bro👍👍👍💪💪💪
really?!? 5.21 pounds in a 4x4 footprint space? if this is true then this is a monumental change in the game!
The editing makes the light look even better. That thing is outta control..
Really enjoyed the format of this video!
His haircut!!!
This light is a beast!
shane, please wear some kind of sunglasses under all these lights you are testing :-)
For real!
Love your reviews, always give the important information needed about these fixtures. We appreciate what you are bringing to the community!
Just ordered one today. Thanks Shane! Great video, great discount code. Thanks for the work you do!
What discount code? Can't find it for this light in the video?
Please let me know how you do brother. Especially on yield
Great video as always. I wanted to mention for those unaware that co2 addition will also increase your heat as co2 is a much greater insulation gas than air which is mostly nitrogen ( inert ) also 1 watt = 3.8 btu, true for ANY electronics 1 btu is approx the heat created burning a single wooden match. A human at rest = 400 btuh.. im saying it's a beauty light, but don't forget to consider temps, especially if adding co2 :)
And don’t forget to mention CO2 has to be run during light hours.
Couple just do what I did? Hang a chunk of dry ice above your plants. That takes care of all the temps :)
True but also using co2 means that the plants actually prefer temps of 30/31 . Where without 27/28 strain depending but good note
cut your c02 in half and only run for 10 minutes once a day, but also use a biowave that opens up all the stomatas for 100% co2 intake
@@davedefrost2174what’s a biowave?
Lol I asked a question I was struggling with. But you answered it in an old vid.. So I deleted the question not to look the eejit.. Any thank you sir for all your hard work. And so happy I saw your older vids to solve my problem.. Witch was about small grow led, light..
Thank you again .. Topman.. 👏
I have one there brilliant 🤩 I upgraded from a sf4000 spider farmer to the lumatek version there brilliant i never had buds like this before happy growing people
Do you use co2?
@@jasonhall8902 lumatek/photontek version of sf4000spider farmer is zeus/xt 465w pro no zeus/xt 1000w he don't have the light of the video
Glad you were WOKE and got away from crappy over priced spider junk
@@robertodelavega8014 thanks for that Rob.
@@jasonhall8902 I use airbomz co2 great bit of kit has a timer set up only 10 euro for a week supply
As always great video Shane. Thank you for your continued work.👍
Purchased a PT 600 about a year ago , after watching Shane’s Zeus 600 review. With 3 harvests completed in a 4x4. It’s a beast….strin
1gpw achieved fabz????
@@DroneWork4U have you used the newer 770 or 1000 watt led?
Shane youre a legend mate, keep up the great education , youre apreciated!!
Fohse should send over one their lights for testing
Yes man real deal o have one in my 5x5 and absolutely love it more then my 650r hlgs
For real?
Hows it doing bro wat types of yield can one expect from these a full 1.5x 1.5 canopy
immediately subbed and liked, all because I noticed huge improvements so well done.
I got a custom 8 bar setup. Samsung 301b(3500k/4500k mix), Osram red (660nm and 730nm mix) 10 total on each bar. Inventronics driver. It is an absolute beast. 18 inches away gotta keep it at 50% w/ CO2
If you hang it at a distance of 12" (30 cm) from the top of the cannabis, turn it on at 100% and add CO2, will it be good or will the plants get a light burn? What should be the minimum distance from the tops of the plants?
Could you comment please on the CO2 system/requirements needed, recommended- and the assumed price of that system? Thanks!
The XT1000 Co2 pro is hands down the best LED light on the market. Hoping to upgrade from my roi720e
The chilled x6 in a 5x5 is rocking setup
Absolutely entertaining and informative. Light specs, tons of detail. And what I liked most was the discussion of the addition of CO2, and the brief explanation that made all the par readings suddenly click for me. 💚💚💚💚✌️🥳 this channel is on my channels page. Much appreciation!
Just picked one up. Upgrading from gavita pro 1700e. I'm pulling 1 1/2 pounds from the gavita pro in a 5x5 tent. Next grow imma do two 5x5 grows, compare both one with photontek co2 and gavita pro without co2. And got a deal on the photontek @1200 with shipping
How did you get the deal? I am considering buying one very soon.
How long veg for that yield
How did they stack up??
what were the results?
What was the yield with the Photontek compared to the Gavita?
This channel is so good , thank you shain
could run it at lower power for a ton of light with less heat.
True! Would be interesting to see if and how much PPFD/W goes up when dimmed to 60% or so.
Wow what a beast if only I had something like that in my 5x5!
a nice jump in camera and edition work. Well done!
Love your channel. Can please do a review on the phantom photobio mx 680? Thanks
Thank you for keeping this channel alive great review and light can you do more HLG I know they have no new lights out I just got the 350r would love to see that light on here thanks again Shane
He doesn’t like hlg
if i dimm it without co2 i have higher efficiency?
there is a new "sanlight evo" they claim to have efficiency of 3!
Yes or you can run for less hours 8 or 10 for example with cheaper electricity.
@@jccuchvjvj 🤣🤣🤣
Shane I have to ask a question , and please forgive me if I put you on the spot but in comparison with the chilled ultra 600w or 1000w I believe it is . Which one is actually better value for money in terms of efficiency and par value . 🤔 or to make it easier which would you consider for the better light (just in your own opinion as a consumer) ?
Wondering this as well
Great fixture.
I love my Photontek X600W Pro
People complain that they are made in china...... but everything other companies build their lights from all comes from china anyways.
Good quality can and does come from china if your willing to pay.
Peace ✌🏻
hi, what height and what setting do you run it at? my plants are struggling with the
@@deplaneetegmont hello.
If your asking about the Photontek X600watt pro....
I run it at 50% power during vegetive growth and 75% in flower. Last 2 weeks i bump it to 100%.
I keep the fixture 2 feet or 24 inches above during veg and drop it to 8-12 inches during flower.
If you run this fixture on 100% you will probably need to add CO2 and not just those mushroom bags or TNB bottles.
At 75% if you stay 8-12 inches away you should have no issues with the plants. However environment and genetics will be a factor.
Happy growing good luck and peace ✌🏻
@@user-sm9mh3bv3l Hi, thx for the info. I have the Lumatek 600 watt pro, it's my first run. I turned it to 75% late veg and the next day they were starting to yellow and drooping, bending their heads, as if they were trying to hide from the light. Turned it back to 50% and up to 3 feet to give them some rest, this was about a week ago and they are still recovering. Pfff. And this is chocolate haze, which is supposedly 95% sativa. I think I'm gonna play it safe for now, maybe not even going to 100% this first run. I don't have the extra CO2, but everything else is good, temp is a bit on the low side, about 22 °C, RH at 45-50%. It's surprisingly difficult to find some decent information on how to use this light, so thanks for the reply. Good luck to you too. Peace
@@deplaneetegmont agreed on the info being sparse.
I also have Gavita 1700ePro fixtures and very little is spoken of them as well in regards to use.
I think they assume when a consumer is purchasing these calibre of lights that the consumer generally has an idea on growing.
All lights do create a slightly different response from plants.
I don’t think you would ever need 100% unless your light was very high above the canopy.
Happy growing and peace.
The yellowing of the leaves wouldn’t be a light issue.
The turning of the leaves would be though.
Happy growing
Wow great info wish it was more affordable by the way looks like your new camera is working beautiful great clear HD quality niccceeee and thank you for all your time and hard work and great information stay safe and God bless
Do you add CO2 only during the flowering phase? Or in the vegetative phase too? Cool light and review! Thanks!
well, i wouldn't in veg stage if your in a tight room, it will make veg grow faster and you might have more stretching, i would run definitely in flower for sure.
4 just came in the mail , so excited
Damn dude, lend me some money lol
Need an asbestos suit and welders helmet to enter that grow room 🤣
Lol I actually used to use tyvek suits to go in my grow space lol
I remove asbestos for a living too..
So I get boxes of em for free
All the white poly ill ever need too.
But absolutely fantastic light.
Can you grow edibles under the light?
Of course
Absolutely love the channel thank you for all that you do. I was looking below and can't seem to find the discount code
The x1000pro is coming out middle of the year, according to Photontek.
It's size is1.7 m. or 5.57 feet so probably geared to larger grows.
Isn’t this the same light
How come nobody talks about light rails anymore? Seems like this beast or( 2 of them) on a rail would kill?
The new Technologys efficiency goes up, price comes down. But the cost and complexity of the moving system stayed (about the same).
You can see the same thing in Photovoltaic power generation. Financially it's better to build a fixed system instead of a sun-tracking one. Moving parts break and a technician' is getting more expensive every year
They don’t increase yield and moving lights create a fire risk also the light in the video weighs a ton
I have the Zeus 600 Pro in my 5x5 and that’s alright for me. This is just so OP and my tent is 8ft high!
How’s your grows going?
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Drying in the tent now at 51% RH and room temp. The light is terrific. Easy to remove light bars and sides without having to take the whole light fixture out and hang what I’m drying from the ceiling poles.
Lot of things I’ve learned in my first budget grow. Drip feed timed irrigation system is the direction I want to go.
What about to use it in 5x10 on the light mover?Gona switch each 5x5 every minute,good idea?
Very nice, love your vids. I was looking at these but you do allot of lights I haven't seen. I seen this one but not like how you do it. Thank you, really help with my next big purchase. I'm hitting like on everything I watch and watch some vids two or three times. You get that Tony Montana costume yet for holloween???😁
Fantastic light.
Its got a rad gnarly finish on it too.
Here's the info that I was after, and I'll share with the class. 20" at 1500ppfd means 24.5" is 1k, and 34.6" is 500. So 10.1" kolas between 1k & 500ppfd. This is how you stack 50oz into a 5x5 without CO2. 👊
In a 5x5 area thats about 1.5 to 2lb of decent buds then the other 1.1lbs is all larf lol
Olysean92 25” hanging height sounds about right to me as well mate. Example your “10.1 kolas between 1k &500ppfd please dude so I can grasp your point please?? Every days a learning day. Thanks bud.
@@danieladams1733 a fixture that is physically 5x5, with 300 watts of perfectly placed, very efficient light, you could achieve a nearly perfect 1000 in every box of the par map, 2 inches away. Light obeys the inverse square law (2x distance=1/4ppfd), so if you have 1000 at 2", you have 250 at 4". Kolas form above 500, and exponentially smaller popcorn forms below. So 1k at 2" achieves 500 at 2.8". .8" "kolas."
Hitting 1000ppfd at 24.5", means 34.65" hits 500ppfd. 10.1" kolas.
A perfect par map is just where growing indoors begins. Depth is the key to weight per square foot. I use a 274w FC3000 in a 32x32. Effectively the same as 950w in a 5x5. This is how I shape my canopy to pull 14 oz from 7 square feet with 8" kolas. Above is scorch. Below is larf. The center is a band of gold that all resources must be targeting.👊
@@GeofryMasters to make sure we're all talking about the same thing, larf is leaves. Stems. Anything you can't smoke or press. Literally trash without purpose. Popcorn is the tiny nugs that form below 500ppfd. Trim is everything that comes off the nugs before curing. Kolas are where nugs connect above 500ppfd. If the coldest, darkest nug is at 500ppfd, there is no popcorn, nevermind larf. I don't count trim as yield. So I can't figure out what what part of my canopy you count as "larf." But if you pull more than 2oz per square foot of smokeable, sellable nugs, with less than 37w/sqft, I'd love to hear your recipe.
@@olysean92 No, maybe in small circles thats what ppl call larf but in the industry larf is anything that is considered popcorn nugs and I can guaranfuckentee you aren't getting 3.1 lbs of top shelf from your canopy.
The issue I have with this video is it simply implies that you can get a CO2 tank and this what I can only imagine to be this very expensive light, and double your yield. It does not take into account the changes that one would have to make in your grow space for example to handle the additional heat, or that you may need additional equipment like an upgraded AC unit to operate this light long term. I'm not saying that the light isn't a good one, I'm just saying that like with your PAR app video you are misleading the viewer by not giving them all the information.
I used to really like this channel, felt that it was unbiased and honest. I no longer feel that way and do not believe I will be watching any longer. Take this advice with a grain of salt folks.
Basically if you have a sealed room operation with Ac and co2 supplement this light is the shit for you. If you are now a confident grower who has money and wants to take your growing up a level with using co2 then this lights a good start but prepared to spend. I wouldn't exactly give him a bad comment for this man he speaks on the lighting side of things. Not on cannabis plants co2 or ac terms
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I love growing. Mars Hydro SP3000 👍
Wow. Now that's a light!!!!!
The light has only diodes 3000K and red 660nm? Why didn't they add 5000K?
Do you think the photontek is better than Gavita or is Gavita better please let me know I really value your opinion?
So like.. would this actually beat the HLG Scorpion Diablos? That's the number one light on the planet so.. Be interesting to see if this would beat it.
Yes this light is the best on the market right now currently .
Chilled ultra puts out better numbers than the hlg
What about mammoth mint white
I really appreciate all u do
Paypal or patreon?
Saved so many so much research.
Invaluable work you do.
Thanks!!!
Wow, what a light ✌👊
best video quality in town
Once upon a time co2 levels were about 1500 ppm, that is why plants such as marijuana love extra co2 up to about that number being the maximum. Great content as always dont forget to like comment and subscribe if your not. Beast of a light.
As far as I know, C3 plants only use up to approx. 1000 ppm, more is a waste. I haven't seen any scientific study proving that cannabis benefits from higher ppms. The effect actually becomes negative at some point, inhibiting the Rubisco enzyme.
1400 to 1500 is the most common max number i have repeatedly, read, heard, used for marijuana over the years. Beyond that number thats correct it becomes toxic. co2 levels are currently about 410 ppm on earth and the number is going up and up from here on out, plants like it but not sure the damage it is doing humans and animals insects etc.. other greenhouse gasses are also increasing along with global temperatures, as us humans continue to pollute and pump enormous amount of oil out of the earth which is a insulator that helps keep the heat from the earths core from escaping into the atmosphere, its replaced with water which does nothing. I hate to see the fucture and the scarry conditions that will be for our children and there children and so on. Man kind is lucky if we have 100 years left on earth.
It’s looks like a great light it has a similar par rating to the ROI 680
Now that's a light.
This is the type of LED light that a grower wants.
Even without the co2.
I've been complaining for a few years now.
That LED light fixture are to small.
And that if your plant or any part of your plant isn't directly under the diodes of the fixture.
The growth of your plant is suffering.
Due to the fact that the par value drops so much the further you get away from the fixture.
This 1000 watts is what's needed to keep those outer edges at the optical par for great growth.
I'm excited.
Finally something that will help us grow to our full potential.
What would you think of the Spider Farmer 7000 in a 5x5...would you still recommend CO2?
They say u can remove bar 4 and 7 u can run without co2 an still above the rest
Yes more is better. Well done Lad!!!💪🎸🍻
No UK link?
Fixed now, thanks for the message
Hey Shane, awesome work !! i bought the lumatek 600w pro version after your suggestion video :) very happy with the light, Gib Lighting is also releasing a LED called FS 630 with super good value for money it seems , any chance you are reviewing it soon ?
Lumatek is preparing new 600w pro 2.9 with 2.9 micromol/J. Insane.
hi, at what height are you running your 600w pro and at what setting? my plants are struggling with the intensity at the moment, thx
@@deplaneetegmont yeah its hard to use it at full intensity , most of the time its at 75% and ~ 40cm
what a gorgeous light!
Absolute great Content and gorgeous Man 😍😍😍
Awesome video mate!
Powerful light, but where can I get a CO2 distribution system and monitor for a tent (say 5x5)?
I have several homebrew gas cylinders to release.
Good point cuz I guarantee you can't go over 1000 with a TNB bottle alone
@@winstonpratt604 I believe that this is the new direction for the industry, but we can't get there without manufacturers making the equipment.
I'd love to be able to get 3+ kg from a 5x5 on the regular.
You're local hydro shops should have tanks.
Or you can burn propane.
But its more economical to just get big co2 tank.
@@timpage5021 I mentioned that I have tanks, but I need an efficient distribution and control system.
I'll see what my locals have.
Propane is not a good option for Summer in Australia.
Can I ask you a question, Shane would you think this led light is better then the Gavita 1700 led light
Friend got that light. its crazy in a 4x4 50% only 😅... i would stick it on the celling 100%🥳😅 ima grab another Mars hydro or Chilled
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I’m thinking about getting one for my AC INFINITY 4x8, running (2) sf4000 been good so far, started C02 last run, it was fun , but too hot in cali, so running my tent at night will be very temp efficient, would I run just (1) photon tek C02 pro?
Thanks, great video 👍🏿
from the site "Neither PhotonTek Inc. nor any of its associated companies or products are in any way connected to or associated with Lumatek Inc. (USA) or any entity or person trading under the Lumatek trademark in the United States."
My question is this - is there really any need for a light like this? I mean it's freaking awesome, and wouldn't kick it out of my grow room, but unless your saying I can get another 30 percent return I'm not sold.
Stick with the 650 model for home grows. Just my opinion
Smh 😂
Check it out!
Run light at 75% and a 6x6 space without co2 and you will most likely get 10 years of use out of it, now do a cost analysis. Diodes will run a lot more efficiently and last a lot longer at 75% power. Or take out 2 bars and raise light, run at 100% and get better coverage, seems very versatile…. Oh and what about lights breaking? I hear it’s usually one of the bars, well on this light you could just take the broken bar out and send it back, while not missing a beat!
Do you know anything about the Photontek x1000pro? Supposed to be a new addition.
I'm venting my 3 tents with a carbon filter on the outside.. Would I need to increase my Co2 expel rate?
NO UK LINK SIR..
Fixed now, thanks for the message
Love these videos this light is insane
how high would you need to hang this light in a 5x5 to hit 1000 ppfd at the centre of the chart?
its interesting that the limiting factor of lights nowadays is now the ppfd per square ft.
Could you tell me a good distance from canopy with no co2?
No co2 u would want to make the foot print bigger by raising the light trying to hit an average par of . 700/800 ppfd but you would need a par meter or to know what that height would be the manufacturers may show it on there website
How much co2 would be generated from a small Chinese man in a 2m cube tent breathing on the plants ?
~800-1000ppm
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lol, best I've seen today
Using photontek 1000 in 5×5 tent & CO2 . How many inches above plant if I grow Autoflower?