Magic TV Top 8 of the Week: Biggest Shake-Ups in Magic History

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    Tristan Shaun Gregson sits down with Mashi Scanlan and Luis Scott-Vargas in this week's Top 8 episode from the "Magic TV" series.

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  • @holdensaunders1008
    @holdensaunders1008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish they still did this

  • @georgeasimakos1744
    @georgeasimakos1744 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mashi “once you get used to it, it’s intuitive. That doesn’t make any sense.” LOLLLL

    • @knuts2
      @knuts2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hahahahahaha exactly!

  • @karmajarrule
    @karmajarrule 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The guy on the left.... on the right?! Now this is a shake up

  • @TJForceIX
    @TJForceIX 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm surprised they didn't mention the introduction of the Stack, or, also, damage going off the stack. Craziness, that.

    • @dkres82
      @dkres82 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      think that's in the rules change episode.

  • @freshwaffle
    @freshwaffle 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    really a shame that Tristan won't get to ever make that top 8 top 8 lists :(

    • @NoPr0bl3ms
      @NoPr0bl3ms 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      what happened to him? I'm watching old videos and it seems like he disappeared from the channel over night

    • @NoPr0bl3ms
      @NoPr0bl3ms 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      whoa what did he do???

    • @47Mortuus
      @47Mortuus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing has been proven to this day.
      Police even says it's very questionable that TSG actually did what he was accused of.

    • @NoPr0bl3ms
      @NoPr0bl3ms 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what has been proven is that TSG's ebay account (which he changed the name on in an attempt to keep its identity secret) was selling the same number of mythic rares that happened to go missing from CFB's inventory at the same time. that's enough circumstantial evidence to fire him and ban him from the community, regardless of what the law says

    • @47Mortuus
      @47Mortuus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No that has NOT been proven - it is the published reason CFB stated. Police explicitly said that this is NOT TRUE.
      "I did not perpetrate theft from Channel Fireball.
      On August 9th 2012 I went to CF in order to film Magic TV. Instead I was confronted and interrogated for 3 hours by local police detectives. I answered all their questions and was immediately driven to my home where I turned over my personal collection including sealed products; they hoped to link bar codes on boxes from my collection to similar boxes believed to have been stolen from CF.
      After being up until all hours of the night, I slept in late and awoke to find one text message and one missed call as the only attempted correspondence from CF. Since then I have had no further contact with the company CF.
      The detectives told me I would need to wait for them to investigate potential matches between CF inventory holes and my own collection as well as track the origin of bar codes from my boxes. After more than a month of waiting I was informed the police had found zero links between my cards/products and the stolen materials. I was free to pick up my items.
      Case closed.
      I did not steal from Channel Fireball. I have chosen to remain silent on this whole matter in the hopes that it could be resolved quickly and quietly, also because I was deeply hurt by the post made on CF about this matter. I do not know why CF posted such a thing and can only assume it was posted out of hurt and presumed betrayal. This has been a very public and hurtful experience and I have tried to act with professionalism and dignity. I have no desire to call anyone names or throw out cruel accusations, those who have hurt me know who they are and there is no need to talk about them, they are no longer worth my time. "
      Don't be a fucking sheep. Listen to both sides and be neutral. Don't repeat things parrot-fashion - embarrassing!
      " When ChannelFireball management contacted eBay, eBay confirmed that the account was owned by a Shaun Gregson. " WRONG! That would mean ebay broke the law LOL.
      "ChannelFireball arranged for cards to be purchased from “eldraziseller,” and the PayPal account to which payment was made was registered to “Tristan Gregson Gregson.” " LMFAO you don't have access to that information - you only have access to the E-FUCKING-MAIL of the account owner. Sloppy, CFB, very sloppy!
      "The police confronted Tristan Shaun Gregson, and he admitted to owning the “eldraziseller” account." OMG... Why would he have to admit owning the account when, apparently, CFB already had access to this information? And how would CFB know about that? Police is bound to not giving away information in regards to an ongoing investigation, yet this was written on August 14th 2012.
      It's just a joke. I don't think that TSG actually sued CFB but he would've been able to - Just like CFB would've been able to sue TSG for spreading false information on the case, but, WHO KNOWS WHY WINK WINK WINK, CFB has no released another statement ;)
      Who knows what the real reason behind getting rid of TSG is. Fact is: what was claimed was bullshit and CFB knows it. Shame on that shitty, hoarding, worthless company!

  • @TheGreenMittenz
    @TheGreenMittenz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The one thing I would love from magic would be to improve the pro tour coverage and find a way to make it into a spectator sport. Currently it is so hard to watch for people that do not know of every card that could be played or there is so much down time or it is difficult to follow your favorite pro tour players. Not exactly sure how to pull it off without switching to a digital form which loses much of the nuance, but as a casual player that enjoys watching the high level play making the game easier to watch would make it so much better.

  • @tophrii
    @tophrii 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    i loved that segue with the planeswalker points.

  • @MortonGoldthwait
    @MortonGoldthwait 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    6:30 I am all for reprints that lower card value. You shouldn't have to be rich and elite to play Cryptic Commands and Fetch Lands.

    • @47Mortuus
      @47Mortuus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In a perfect world (no artificially held-up "rarity" because of easy profit without having to work for it), the cards would cost you exactly as much as the production of them costs, with a small, yet fair amount of profit for the popularity of the game idea itself.
      Any justification for card prices above 50 cents per ANY card is, without any exception, motivated by greed and egoism, paired with ignorance towards the financial system, aswell as history itself.

    • @samwigderson6966
      @samwigderson6966 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@47Mortuus not really that argument shows ignorance to the financial system, in order for companies to make profit and the economy to function they have to sell things for more than they cost to make, because most companies act as a middleman between the raw supplies and the consumer. take magic as an example its not like someone could go and print their own cards with their own paper because it wouldn't be allowed.

    • @47Mortuus
      @47Mortuus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@samwigderson6966 So there's no problem with a) it not being allowed to (nice regurgitating of an obvious dogma btw) and b) quote "MOST" companies making profit by offering shit that nobody needs? apart from transportation and storage, there is no further major need for any kind treatment of goods, especially when it would result in the human garbage we have in OUR society - like the entire marketing industry for example, or - to a lesser extent - some shopkeeper who's playing nice with me because he can make 50% profit off of me(people get paid for ripping other people of in your beloved eCoNoMy). And in your eyes, these people contribute a lot to society ("in order [...] for the economy to funtion"). Yeah - there's no use talking to people like you. IQ 60 - Regurgitating all day.

    • @47Mortuus
      @47Mortuus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samwigderson6966 Where you at? I thought you were about to cure **my** ignorance?

  • @riesenbach
    @riesenbach 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best top 8's to date fellas!

  • @Shinobi001
    @Shinobi001 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much like LSV in the pro tour. This show has a lot of top 8s. :)

  • @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli
    @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @torgyman True, which is why players are required to play sleeved or use one of the checklist cards (which are in the tips and tricks slot) as a proxy.

  • @TheAngelicDemise
    @TheAngelicDemise 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I love the PT. I bought 4x misty rainforests, 4x verdants for 12 ea. and resold them for 70$ ea. thank you PT

  • @BananRadar
    @BananRadar 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best Top8 subject and video this far!
    Keep it up guys!

  • @BrotherAlpha
    @BrotherAlpha 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Ebon Praetor. I'm thinking of making a casual deck based around it.
    On the other hand, that was roughly the time I sold my collection, so yes that set did drive a lot of people out of the game.

  • @fireworks1792
    @fireworks1792 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    MASHI COME BACK YOU ADD SO MUCH TO THE SHOW

  • @GzzLuiz
    @GzzLuiz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OXYMORONIC!!! I'M LEARNING!!! So fancy, you language, buddy.

  • @ChrisBanuchi
    @ChrisBanuchi 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Modern card frame?

  • @shteevuk
    @shteevuk 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprised not to see a few things on the list: 6th ed rules changes and Equipment I guess I can understand, but most of all, splitting Type 1 from Type 2 tournaments.

  • @Papierumtg
    @Papierumtg 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top 8 best Draft videos of CFB's crew. Go go Troy!!

  • @RJElite
    @RJElite 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG SO MANY VIDEOS!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!

  • @movcrit
    @movcrit 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats always been a problem. Enemy fetchlands are now $30 a piece and will probably only go up from now on.

  • @jakehr3
    @jakehr3 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm most amazed that Ravnica didn't make it anywhere in the list. One of the best blocks of all time, following the terrible 2-turn combo that was Urza block. They single handedly saved Magic with Ravnica. With Fallen Empires, yes it was important that they could distribute things equally, but the fact that they fixed their supply chain shouldn't be the reason why Fallen Empires is in the list. Ravnica got people back into Magic after they were leaving it in droves. It saved Magic.

  • @ssomers55
    @ssomers55 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really no comment on Foils coming in or New frame? All caused tons of uproar, even Combo Winter during Saga was bigger than some of these things

  • @Sweetestsadist
    @Sweetestsadist 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember Chronicles days. I traded "The Wretched" to some guy (At the time was $40.00) for an "All Hallow's Eve" and a few other rares. About an hour later, the owner released the suspected spoiler list to everyone.

  • @jamesa.fitzpatrick1566
    @jamesa.fitzpatrick1566 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bring on Chronicles 2. Let the rest of us play!

  • @Peter-qy5dk
    @Peter-qy5dk 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    100th episode! awesome

  • @clerre
    @clerre 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "this video gotta be short" 37min .... :D

  • @Phatpally
    @Phatpally 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see the Top 8 controversies in Magic history

  • @williambowen2499
    @williambowen2499 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a time traveler from the future and I laugh at Consecrated Sphinx being only $8

    • @acedwards819
      @acedwards819 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      William Bowen Karn at $8 :(

  • @ShiyokoCL
    @ShiyokoCL 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised at the card prices of the time.
    I'm more surprised that people think they could buy GG at $2 at that time, when it's clearly stated that that price is the CFB buylist price (i.e. they are buying GG at that price, not selling it). Like, c'mon people, you only needed to drift your eyes a little to the left and read "buylist prices".

  • @rodfan316
    @rodfan316 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    6th edition rules? New card frames?

  • @Rothbardy
    @Rothbardy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    LSV has lost quite a bit of weight. Good job :)

  • @tjimicole2677
    @tjimicole2677 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff, and an awesome history lesson for those of us who weren't around at the time. It's amazing to think I started in '03, which at this point is almost half Magic's lifespan ago. Dear God.

  • @bachaumtg6092
    @bachaumtg6092 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damage not stacking anymore?

  • @weihoozie
    @weihoozie 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @MBP765
    You'd really consider that to be a massive shake-up? It made some cards better, some worse but I wouldn't call put it in leagues of the things they mentioned.

  • @Damnationization
    @Damnationization 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    What were they?

  • @NivMizzetFiremind
    @NivMizzetFiremind 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    DOTS :( i miss it so much...

  • @Kiddomike
    @Kiddomike 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only in Magic TV - 11:45. LOL! :D

  • @IslandLimer
    @IslandLimer 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    35:27 I agree LSV. Just banning Emrakul would have had a significant effect on the meta. Eye of Ugin might still have made the deck just a bit too good, but it would have been more workable.

  • @inthepants117
    @inthepants117 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    look at the cards before 8th edition, 8th ed and onward fall under moden frame

  • @ArsenicDrone
    @ArsenicDrone 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was pretty certain that #2 was going to be 6th Edition rules, and #1 the 8th Edition card face. I'm pretty surprised neither was on the list. Out of those 10 total things, the card face is the only one I still think was a disaster. Magic used to look so much better.

  • @David31679
    @David31679 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    What no change to Damage stack?

  • @TheEmperorGulcasa
    @TheEmperorGulcasa 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    top 8 most versatile cards

  • @Artificial-Insanity
    @Artificial-Insanity 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    6th edition and 2010 rules changes?

  • @Rorschachqp
    @Rorschachqp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    They completely mid-analyzed the impact of Mythic rares in the game. Mythics are the same rarity as old school rares. In order to make Mythics, they instead cut the number of rare cards per set and double-printed all the "regular" gold symbol rares. That means every set has about half as many rare cards compared to the old sets and that also means Standard has several hundred cards less to play with.

  • @iratebeaver29
    @iratebeaver29 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flip cards and Planeswalker Points make the list, but the removal of mana burn doesn't? Seems pretty erroneous.

  • @TheCabIe
    @TheCabIe 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    37 minutes? OH YES

  • @terkerknight
    @terkerknight 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprised that the change to damage not stacking didn't make the list.

  • @hpskaterpa
    @hpskaterpa 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    when you see no dislikes.... you know the show will be good...

  • @ed88455
    @ed88455 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    no 6th edition rules change?

  • @Pringlesman
    @Pringlesman 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started playing when Darksteel came out. I've opened my share of fallen empires packs (store had them for $1.50 each) Fallen Empires was horribly overprinted. I figured it was an old set and HAD to be worth something.
    I figured the 6th or M10 rule changes would have made the list.

  • @Meleeace1478
    @Meleeace1478 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    What? What about damage on the stack?

  • @MrPeebuddy
    @MrPeebuddy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    MAAAAAAAASSSSSSHHHHIIIIIIIII. He was the best.

  • @Gemasted
    @Gemasted 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    finally he is actually hall of fame

  • @Arcnaught
    @Arcnaught 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thankful for double faced cards because of Delver

  • @thescenesnotdead
    @thescenesnotdead 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish mashi had owned a pair of shoes in 2011/2012

  • @spoogtastic
    @spoogtastic 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    top 8 all time best draft cards.

  • @KensanOni
    @KensanOni 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, On the Edge was a fun little card game. :D It still was better than I:NWO

  • @CrimsonMesa
    @CrimsonMesa 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    6th Edition?

  • @finalflameKorisky
    @finalflameKorisky 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    top 8 enchantments?

  • @tuna1694
    @tuna1694 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    How on earth did TSG theft scandal not get on this list! :)

  • @Williamsnipes88
    @Williamsnipes88 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    reserved list

    • @acedwards819
      @acedwards819 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Williamsnipes88 That wasn't a shake up AT THE TIME. It was required for the game to continue

    • @TheCaptaineustass
      @TheCaptaineustass 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      acedwards819 was it I mean it seams like chronicles was what was nesisary

  • @TheCabIe
    @TheCabIe 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still don't understand why does this show get less views than random SCG ones

  • @cyrusrobins9313
    @cyrusrobins9313 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Killer bees wasn't in chronicles...

  • @7mean7bunny7
    @7mean7bunny7 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    What did TSG mean @18:54 when he said, "Lets be honest. There can only be 1 Brad Nelson."?

    • @justkyle93
      @justkyle93 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      7mean7bunny7 Brad Nelson is the epitome of the MTGO grinder. He got to be a pro by grinding MTGO for years

  • @mtl10
    @mtl10 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    top8 best TSG evil laughs

  • @TopMostFlavor
    @TopMostFlavor 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    no new card frame?

    • @WordoftheElderGods
      @WordoftheElderGods 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at when this video was posted, dumbass.

    • @TopMostFlavor
      @TopMostFlavor 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      WordoftheElderGods
      I meant the first change in card frame, starting with 8th edition and Mirrodin, "dumbass."

    • @Remuji
      @Remuji 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would put the new card frame under flip cards. Let's assume it comes in 9th.

    • @caelinnis
      @caelinnis 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wasn't around at the time but to be honest a new card frame isn't really world-shaking like these were.

  • @gresach
    @gresach 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Urza, Masques, Invasion, Odyssey, Onslaught, Mirrodin, Kamigawa, Ravnica

  • @jsweatisdead
    @jsweatisdead 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's funny how they mention chronicles 2 could happen any day and would devalue cards... We have a million Masters sets now and the value of most cards has barely been touched lol

  • @panos907
    @panos907 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    @anstytroll11 i totally agree with you there,magic is a game,and games should be about fun and not people emtying their wallets on cards and then sellling them like merchandise instead of playing with them.Actually, i have found that a real way to not care about your wallet and play magic still is 1) mental magic(see wizards site for details) and 2) printing proxies for decks or entire cubes,or anything that you like,really.But this goes to all magic players.MAGIC SHOULD BE ABOUT FUN,NOT MONEY

  • @alpharage1090
    @alpharage1090 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    true. #2 Face of Fear

  • @FireLord2506RS
    @FireLord2506RS 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    They're on the reserved list, and they're called the power 9 for the reason, they're only legal in one format, and they're broken in that format.

  • @joshtownsend8807
    @joshtownsend8807 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    not EVERY change, but some were terrible. Infect and double-sided (as opposed to flip) cards being my two pet examples

  • @nyjcmp
    @nyjcmp 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey hey hey, picking on Anthony? C'mon guys. Sidequestion, why is this on TH-cam and the Professors isn't???

  • @p0skar1
    @p0skar1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @leepipesateneo

    I thought I was the only one doing that !

  • @anstytroll11
    @anstytroll11 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    But reguardless I love magic and will always play and love it

  • @servadac43
    @servadac43 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aeolipile is actually uncommon 1, the equivalent of rare.

  • @alexkalinin6899
    @alexkalinin6899 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just had an ad for hex at the start of this vid, Google pls

  • @garagavia
    @garagavia 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many of the old cards were completely broken, and should never be played. There is also a ton of cards which are way too bad to ever see play.
    Most of the cards - not on the reserve list - that do not fall under either of these categories have been reprinted.

  • @garagavia
    @garagavia 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worldwake has several great cards, that see modern play.

  • @Brodaddy1000
    @Brodaddy1000 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    hmmm.. m10 rules change not on list? 6th edition rules change not on the list? wtf? having said that humphrey in the tags brings up alot of irrelevant related videos...just saying.

  • @ligerman30
    @ligerman30 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    #1 Storm Crow

  • @aqyn1397
    @aqyn1397 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    close to 100,000 subs! :o

  • @ColbertFanatic
    @ColbertFanatic 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't see how the rising cost of lands didn't make the list

  • @ATCQII
    @ATCQII 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHAT ABOUT THE STACK

  • @Itryhardder
    @Itryhardder 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    LSV looks like a character from Bob's Burgers. Just sayin lol

  • @SuperPrankschannel
    @SuperPrankschannel 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    also can i walk up to this game to day and play it if your new the answer is NO
    the cards are confusing as hell i got one here "DESTROY BLOCKED CREATURES" WTF
    and dont get me started on planes walkers i have 2 i have no clue how to use them at all

  • @forrestmeader4412
    @forrestmeader4412 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Goblin Guide 2 dollars... :c

  • @discoooooooo
    @discoooooooo 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    year ago....

  • @darkblighttmo
    @darkblighttmo 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am old enough to remember buying a pack of unlimited from local book store =/

  • @thanorn3
    @thanorn3 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    mashi put on some shoes man!

  • @alpharage1090
    @alpharage1090 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top 8 evasion creatures

  • @PhatStache
    @PhatStache 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg looking at the prices at the bottom of the screen and seeing karn for 8 dollars D:

  • @AWCO777
    @AWCO777 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Collectors... they son't want collectors to lose thousands of dollars. I know people who would honestly lose $10 000 if the original duals were reprinted. Modern Masters was a stretch in of itself.

  • @MtgVeteran
    @MtgVeteran 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    theres enough shake ups to do a top 8 per year

  • @lolcool37
    @lolcool37 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol guide is 2 dollars jeeeeeeezzzz

  • @Sparkyhobbies
    @Sparkyhobbies 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    damage no longer using the stack, urza's saga, the internet (netdecking)

  • @akatsukidude4390
    @akatsukidude4390 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    when primeval titan was losing price too 11.99 :'(

  • @bencheshire
    @bencheshire 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats what Yugioh is like, it makes the cards feel like they're worth nothing.

  • @JessicaZane4realz
    @JessicaZane4realz 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fallen Empires? Legends? Wow, they are really old if they bought actual packs from those sets.

    • @Nicalapegus
      @Nicalapegus 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jessica Zane is 30 old?

    • @JessicaZane4realz
      @JessicaZane4realz 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicalapegus Yes, but not in bed.

    • @kylemundy8871
      @kylemundy8871 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm 29. Let's do this

    • @JessicaZane4realz
      @JessicaZane4realz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicalapegus I've did things I'm not proud of with like 50ish, so fine I guess. 21 is better though.

    • @JessicaZane4realz
      @JessicaZane4realz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicalapegus It didn't make me famous though.