Kholat comes from "Kholat Syakhl" which means "dead mountain." However, Kholat also means "meager" So the name refers to how little game is found on the mountain for the native hunters. So the name does have meaning. Meager. As in meager gameplay. Boosh!
I was going to make fun of the lack of creativity of the name "dead mountain," but then I realized I live near a mountain that translated to "Devil mountain or Mt. Devil."
"Let's make an ultra-realistic map and then make it impossible for players to jump or climb over a 30 cm obstacle" seems to be a design guideline in a lot of recent games.
I kinda liked the wandering aimlessly around in a snow storm part, not because it's interesting gameplay or anything, but because it made it easier for me to clean my screen.
My old TV's backlight was failing, and it took awhile to realize it. I thought the blank white screen my Roku did occasionally just had a cloud-like texture to it.
Was literally just checking this out on Steam and wasn't sure whether to buy it since I'm fascinated by the Dyatlov Pass Incident. I checked my YT feed and holy shit, Let's Drown Out.
***** Yes I know I love the souls games but it seems like all indie games are nowadays is picking up pieces of paper in an otherwise empty environment.
Reece113 See in dark souls, or amnesia, you were actively fighting bad guys, exploring well crafted yet manageable spaces, solving puzzles. The thing is the bits of notes that told story were just that; notes on the ground you could pick up or leave and keep doing your thing. This game just makes it the only central focus.
A minimalist style of story telling can be quite effective, and is generally quite difficult to get a specific story across using it. From Software utilized the minimalist tendency of ambiguity as a driving mechanic of the story; they made a weakness in the style a strength of the overall narrative, and Dark Souls was ultimately better off with that. Everything in Dark Souls has a very specific purpose in this instance. Nothing was put in simply to put it in. The decorations, the way things move and interact, item drops, and the item descriptions all serve to construct and support the narrative. Dark Souls' (Dark Souls's? It looks wrong both ways) story isn't really all that complicated, when you piece it together. In fact, it's quite a simple story. What makes it intriguing is the way the story is ultimately interpreted, because the ambiguity serves a vital part of the storytelling. It's a game where you are treated like an adult; very few things are given to you explicitly, so you are left to find them out for yourself. In looking for them, you start to gain more and more information, but it's not necessarily in the right order, nor is it always remotely specific. It's the rush I imagine archaeologists have when they are unearthing tombs and the like; here is ground that has not seen people for thousands of years. Dark Souls has that same principle. You are an archaeologist trying to find the answers to a long-lost story, and the your imagination has a huge role in constructing it. I'd argue that this is where a lot of indie devs fail. If you want to make a good minimalistic story, but still have the game be story driven, there has to be more to go on than slips of paper. The world has to effectively be the story. The world and story that the devs of Kholat picked are not without merit; there is a huge amount of potential with the setting and story, and I'm honestly sad to see it go to waste like this. But where they fail is linking the two together in a significant way. Like you said, the world is just empty, and things are scattered without rhyme or reason. They almost exist as separate entities, which only serves to make both of them fail. They are simply ignorant of the rules of the narrative style, and I think the point of them failing is the presence of the ghost enemies. They don't really serve the world or the gameplay all that much. They exist as roadblocks. That's not to say enemies = bad for story, but the way they were worked into Kholat was honestly terrible. Kholat probably would've worked a lot better if the gameplay had been more along the lines of The Long Dark; you're trying to find out what happened to the five hikers, while you're trying to stay alive because of a brutal environment. Sure, you can have the supernatural, but make it more background stuff. Like, shadows moving in the corner of your eye, a few sounds just at the edge of hearing, and dim lights far from you. The world loses weight because it's just scenery, and the supernatural loses weight because it just isn't all that scary when it's pushed in your face. They don't really serve each other. Make the environment something you have to worry about, and it serves to push the hiker narrative more. You are trying to avoid repeating their mistakes, without knowing what those mistakes were. The supernatural can work as the antagonistic force, but don't let the player realize that fifteen minutes into the game. TLDR: Minimalistic stories are difficult to do well, and a lot indie devs generally want to have profound stories without having the knowledge of how gameplay and story interact, and making the ambiguity of the story worth keeping. They give you too much information, and it ultimately fails. On top of that, the gameplay they frequently have makes it tedious to play.
Hellnagel I have my ps2 and silent hill 2 ready and waiting for this to play along. Even have the setting auto load on so it starts up my last save the moment I turn my ps2 on. I miss that feature :(
12:09 its called a white out, i have skied in them about 4 times in my life, they come on in seconds and are scary as fuck when your alone and trying to find your way mostly because you could fall off a cliff you cant see and no one would ever know you where there. probably what the developer was going for but i dont know or care (might buy this game though)
RisefromyourGRAVE I don't believe that every white person is denoting or relating to a molecular structure in which two particular atoms or groups lie on the same side of a given plane in the molecule, in particular denoting an isomer in which substituents at opposite ends of a carbon-carbon double bond are on the same side of the bond.
All I could think about at 4:40 : All together now! Random documents and audiologs! We find them stuck to noticeboards, we find them under dogs! We're gonna put them in a file and give it a review, When we're bored of all the gameplay and we've nothing else to do!
I never got into Dragon Ball, but I will say I do appreciate it's emphasis on training. You can never be among the best until you've dedicated as much time and effort as the best. Dragon Ball is all about _Train, train, train, train, bullshit, BATTLE!_
I just really want these to go on forever, there is nothing else in this world that is better than drown outs playing in the background while I do work
+Lord Funface The Atomic Toaster It makes me feel incredibly jealous. A week into spring and there's still two feet here. Fuck snow. - Sincerely, Canada
shady4091 Embrace the snow. Just imagine us making snowmen together. You and a deep voiced British fellow dancing in the snow and making a snow castle.
pixl_man Totally Fez. Phil Fish was just an arrogant douche nugget and reminded everyone of John Romero for his "I'm a super star videogame designer" attitude.
I wonder how hard Sean Bean cringed at having to read the phrase "this one time...". Also, I'm fairly sure there was a note below that photograph of a lady.
Snowstorms in my experience are less foggy and more of an barrage of transparent blankets (I think thats the word) literally blocking your view thought it gets abit foggy several meters ahead in stronger storms, with stronger winds its more of an issue to keep your eyes open than actually seeing.
I'm starting to really hate this trend of horror games where you wander around with barely any functionality other than collecting notes and using a flashlight maybe you can understand why?
SinisterExaggerator I think they're trying to cash in on the sort of fame games like Amnesia got, but the problem is that a game like Kholat lacks the story, atmosphere, etc of Amnesia and other games that got it right. Knocking off mechanics will only get devs so far, the real heart of a game is in the writing and feel. Unfortunately we see this kind of bad knock-off everywhere, not just games, so expect it to be a trend to continue... the only way we can discourage it is by not supporting it.
tirsden I think you have a good point about cashing in on the success of other games although I think Kholat does develop a interesting cold, frozen and isolated atmosphere very nicely but it just comes across as pretty backdrop to some very basic mechanics which seems to involve collecting scattered bits of text and dodging your stalker type monster a lot like Slenderman which i didn't like either but at least that game was free. While the same might be said for something like Amnesia had some intelligent AI to make it scary and interesting mechanics. However even if Kholat had a good story i dislike having to stop read it by collecting scattered notes around the world as it disengages the immersion which is usually very important to a good horror game. Quite often i watch some TH-cam personality play something (Total Biscuit usually a good buyers guide) I am not sure on before i would even think about buying it. Voting with your wallet is usually the best way of discouraging a game.
SinisterExaggerator i mean this game has some neat ideas. The idea of using a map and compass really makes a player appreciate the modern miracle that is GPS, and having to use land marks to get an idea of direction is fun. I think it just comes down to the map being to bloody big. Not to mention that you go some way you think is east and turns out its north ends up with players uninterested and bored.
David Dalmatian Who cares? I'm dead. It's not like my genitals are all the more attractive when I'm a corpse, and even if they are, I would not be there to enjoy the lovely sex.
Now you lot are all thinking of Big Sword McHonourpants when you hear Sean Bean, but when I hear Sean Bean I think of Big Sword McRiflepants. Over the hills and far away . . .
you see, this is what I dont like about the more recent drown outs. talking about the game completly blocks out any topics, antectdotes about their lives, or viewer questions. this is basically a very disorganized lets play. I think you should reintroduce the "word" system for picking games, that was a really good time for drown out I think
A game set in the USSR. Sweet! But what we really need is a game set in the second half of 1980's Gorbachev's USSR where the culture was becoming heavily influenced by the West and free speech was a thing.
I felt the exact same way about Jurassic World, especially about the assistant's death. I felt rather disturbed in the theater, but my family won't shut up about how great it was and how funny that death was
I'm not a nude sleeper either. I understand the appeal -- unless you're unemployed and live alone, you have relatively few opportunities to be naked, and sleep is a big one -- but I just wouldn't be comfortable like that. Also, I believe there was a piece of paper at the memorial; you just had to look down to see it.
I think that an issue with this game, which it has in common with a lot of recent "horror" games, is that it doesn't really give you a compelling reason to give a shit. You're just dropped smack dab in the middle of nowhere and "spooky" things happen and the game just goes "You figure it out". No game! Give me a hook, give me some reason for why I'm there and why I should care. A static opening narration just doesn't cut it. Oh, and try not to kill me the second I find even a hint at intrigue because that just takes me straight out of the experience. There's a difference between establishing a threat (Psst, do it less than 10 minutes from the last save point - Especially if you need to kill the player to do it) and undoing all progress made just straight out of nowhere. That fog there was bullshit, because at no point did the game establish that fog = bad. Are we to assume that orange things are bad? Well, that's undermined by those orange glowing footsteps earlier not killing us right away, isn't it? Dangerous things need to be telegraphed in some way or dying from them is just straight up bullshit.
Miles Norsworthy Miles I'm the devil incarnate and you expect me to keep my word? No more cocaine for you for a week. I like to see the effects of withdrawal on you.
I love this series...but I am concerned because I was binge watching and fell asleep during the Farming Simulator episode...thanks for the strange dreams guys...thanks so very much...
34:05 Now I can only think of Yahtzee bursting out of the bedroom to surprise the home invader, with an erection, swinging a golf club with a crazed look on his face HAHAHA
Having grown up with this kind of weather a reagular feature of everyday life I'd say it's fairly accurate, does lack the feeling of your face freezing over, your boogers turning into ice inside your nose, the stinging feeling of sleet hitting your frozen face like needles on the wind and the burning sensation you get every time you pull freezing air into your lungs. But hey, as far as a 2D screen can portray, fairly accurate.
I once used the first paragraph/sentence from one of my short stories as my windows account password. Was about 250 characters long, I was sincerely surprised it let me have a password that long :-D
So if this is about the Dyatlov Pass incident, in which all 10 victims were Russian, why are the voiceovers for the notes in British accents? Could they not find or afford eastern-European voice actors (or decent fakes, we are talking about fucking voice actors) or is this like when people always put on English accents to play ancient Romans? Fuck it, call me down to the sound booth with a Slim-Jim and a can of Dr. Pepper and I'll give you my best Comrade Ivan.
***** Having accents displays their correct nationality without needing subtitles in order to understand them. That's just me though, it adds some character to the game when done correctly. That's one of the reasons I love Assassin's Creed 2 so much, their Italian accents were lovely to listen too and didn't necessarily feel out of place.
***** unless there's a generic English language, people will recognise the accent as being from a region that is not the same as where the game takes place. Having them do Russian accents would sort of make it feel like they're speaking Russian but we can understand them for some reason, and won't invoke a sense that they're foreigners in their own land. Accent matters for atmosphere.
Sean Bean even dies in voiceovers, because that's his thing. He died in Oblivion. Anyone who does not make Sean Bean die in a creative work is an amateur. One must tease the idea of the death of Sean Bean multiple times and then have him die in a significant and meaningful way. For instance, he turned into a fucking dragon in Oblivion and saved the world.
having lived in newcastle in the winter of 2012-2013, where there was a literal snowstorm i can pretty much say that yes being in a snowstorm is like that except with less visibility.
I got stuck in a whiteout level windstorm once when I was winter camping. It was night, and all I could see ahead of me was the 3 or so metres of blowing snow lit blue by my flashlight. It was a terrifying, almost otherworldly experience.
That inverted "K" really bugs me. I mean, is this the best thing people can do, when trying to make something look russian? I guess they ran out of "Я" 's.
Kholat is part of the mountain name "Kholat Syakhl", which is translated from Mansi language as "Dead Mountain". By chance it is also sounds kinda close to "holod" (холод), Russian for coldness. This is the mountain on witch Dyatlov Incident took place, you are correct.
If you like a game with a map system where you have to deduce where you are based on landmarks and triangulating your position, Miasmata might be an interesting choice for a future Let's Drown Out video.
Superman powers because Superman only has one power; everything he imagines becomes reality. This is why Superman seems to develop new powers when they're plot critical and the explanations of his powers are so absurd; Superman is the self-construct of an unimaginative and slightly dim person.
Nicholas Scott More and less, the idealize Superman is really boring, the Superman from the mainstream comics, TV Shows and movies is much better, and yeah, you are right, DC should break his policy that every author should write whatever they want about their characters, they should do more like Marvel, and put defined limits in their characters.
4:41 ♫ Random documents!, And audio logs!, You can find them on a table, You can fine them under dogs, ♫We are gonna put it in our game, And give it a review! (Something something forgot the words) nothing else to do! *BUMP*
The use of common substitions actually reduces the space of possible characters. The best passwords are really long (length>20) strings of letters. somethinglikethiswouldactuallybeaprettydecentpasswordeasyforapersontorememberbuthardforacomputertoguess.
rmwing After completing Dark souls, Dark souls 2 and Blood borne, I went to try out Demons souls... It's so hard, but rewarding if only for the small amounts of grass people seem to be growing on themselves during different lunar cycles.
TheGunMentor Only played DeS and DS1, and I consider DeS both harder and not as satisfying as DS1. Not enough variety to levels, enemies, weapons, or bosses (though there are a few gems there still) and World Tendency is a fucking bitch that just never stops screwing you over. Upgrading gear is a lot more difficult too (good luck with those Pure Bladestones!), shops sell items at prohibitively high costs, and you simultaneously get fewer souls from enemies and leveling up costs more, and Stones of Ephemeral Eyes -the Humanity equivalent- are rarer than pieces of the True Cross. That said, nothing in Dark Souls made me as depressed as talking to Astrea after killing Garl Vinland. Nothing.
Goku and Superman both can fly unaided, have super speed, super strength, and super toughness (the degree of difference between the two will start a nerd war, so I won't bother bringing it up). Superman can shoot heat vision from his eyes, see microscopically and has telescope vision. Depending on the source, he can also travel unaided through outer space. He also doesn't NEED to eat, as he is powered by a yellow sun. A BLUE sun makes all of his powers even stronger. He doesn't get any power from a red sun though, meaning eventually he'll lose his powers until he'll get under a yellow sun. He also has the Kryptonite weakness and magic can pass through his toughness easily. Goku can shoot lasers from his hands (and his feet once), teleport anywhere in the universe literally instantly, gets exponentially stronger every time he is beaten to NEAR death, and can transform into similiar forms that give you anywhere from 50 times to 400 times you current power.
GSSAGE7 Unrelated, but what the fuck happened to the senzu beans? Why did they stop eating senzu beans? They should have made senzu bean chili, but no. No more senzu beans. Also, Goku did a super saiyan spirit bomb ONCE in Super Android 13, I think the movie was called, and then it was never brought up again. Continuity errors. Blarg. *shakes fist*
Bodalla Gaming Senzu beans don't come up much because Yajarobi keeps eating them all. Yes, really. That's why they frequently only come up with a handful. That and the fact that they take a long time to grow anywhere. Also, movies aren't canon. If there's any continuity errors, assume anything with Toriyama directly involved is right. So Goku can't use the spirit bomb as a Super Sayain.
I respect your insight. However, super sayain spirit bomb is an amazing concept. It was like a ball of hellfire and death. He basically threw a sun at them. At a time when I was really starting to value the other characters higher than Goku, Goku showed just how much of a badass he still was. So even though it wasn't canon, it redeemed Goku as the amazing character fans originally fell in love with.
Bodalla Gaming You have to remember, a major part of the Spirit Bomb was that you had to be pure of heart to use it. And the Super Sayain transformation taints you, to the point that you aren't pure of heart anymore.
Yahtz and Gabe, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this: Would you say that words only have the power you give them? It seems to me that people are only ever offended by words because they feel the need to be offended by them, or because they do not let go of what happened in the past to attribute that word/those words to pain.
i remember playing dead space 3 co-op the first jump scare happend and i blew away the necromorph with an rpg needless to say that set the tone for the entire game
It's shockingly easy to get a number of high profile actors on the cheap, really. You just have the project set up and ready to go, you have the cash in hand, and you ask. Reason being, most big productions ask you on and then it's months or even years before it happens, so the immediate kind of approach is attractive to professionals. Bill Drummond of the KLF almost got Yoko Ono to appear in a twelve hour rock opera based on The Illuminatus books way back when, except she'd just had a child. He just looked her up and called her, was the approach. Uwe Boll also scores good talent using this approach. As well, you'd be shocked by the level of talent that will respond to a simple ad in a trade paper, even when you stress it's low budget.
If the Terminator steps on the primordial soup humans never intent skynet, terminators never made to go back to step in the primordial soup, the universe pops out of existence.
This game's plot is a complete shamble. "There was this thing, mysterious thing, investigate, oh you're dead. Now go ahead and disregard any reason for you to even do whatever you do. *bonk bonk bonk* Is my brain flowing out yet? I don't feelrsgdgh anythibargggg..."
You mentioned it in a early video, however I'm curious about your opinion of the Lego Movie. I'd be tickled pink to hear more about that. Since you guys are trying to pick boring games another good pick might be a racing game. We haven't seen a racing game yet. :)
Kholat comes from "Kholat Syakhl" which means "dead mountain." However, Kholat also means "meager" So the name refers to how little game is found on the mountain for the native hunters.
So the name does have meaning. Meager. As in meager gameplay. Boosh!
Deacon Cole i always thought it was just weird western spelling of the russian word for cold.
I was going to make fun of the lack of creativity of the name "dead mountain," but then I realized I live near a mountain that translated to "Devil mountain or Mt. Devil."
Sounds like a fun place.
"Let's make an ultra-realistic map and then make it impossible for players to jump or climb over a 30 cm obstacle" seems to be a design guideline in a lot of recent games.
"It's never occurred to me write my thoughts down..." he says while recording and uploading his thoughts to the internet for eternity.
I kinda liked the wandering aimlessly around in a snow storm part, not because it's interesting gameplay or anything, but because it made it easier for me to clean my screen.
My old TV's backlight was failing, and it took awhile to realize it. I thought the blank white screen my Roku did occasionally just had a cloud-like texture to it.
Gabe and Yahtzee are my favourite salami slapping Marmite miners on the internet.
Yahtzee's password confirmed for B00bieB00bieBumBum
Ryan Mitchell Or maybe 8008138008138um8um
Ryan Mitchell 5punkG4rg73w33w33
Ryan Mitchell i forgotten where that was from can you remind me
yeah i saw it already thanks
11 hur15
I expected 'At the Mountains of Madness', what I got was Gone Home in a snowstorm with piss coloured ghosts.
Now that could be a spiffy game.
Was literally just checking this out on Steam and wasn't sure whether to buy it since I'm fascinated by the Dyatlov Pass Incident. I checked my YT feed and holy shit, Let's Drown Out.
I feel like all these indie devs do the minimalist story telling thing just because they're not good enough to do anything else.
*****
Yes I know I love the souls games but it seems like all indie games are nowadays is picking up pieces of paper in an otherwise empty environment.
Reece113 it was my favorite part of shovel Knight
FrogWaifu lol
You gyroscopic jester.
Reece113 See in dark souls, or amnesia, you were actively fighting bad guys, exploring well crafted yet manageable spaces, solving puzzles. The thing is the bits of notes that told story were just that; notes on the ground you could pick up or leave and keep doing your thing.
This game just makes it the only central focus.
A minimalist style of story telling can be quite effective, and is generally quite difficult to get a specific story across using it. From Software utilized the minimalist tendency of ambiguity as a driving mechanic of the story; they made a weakness in the style a strength of the overall narrative, and Dark Souls was ultimately better off with that. Everything in Dark Souls has a very specific purpose in this instance. Nothing was put in simply to put it in. The decorations, the way things move and interact, item drops, and the item descriptions all serve to construct and support the narrative.
Dark Souls' (Dark Souls's? It looks wrong both ways) story isn't really all that complicated, when you piece it together. In fact, it's quite a simple story. What makes it intriguing is the way the story is ultimately interpreted, because the ambiguity serves a vital part of the storytelling. It's a game where you are treated like an adult; very few things are given to you explicitly, so you are left to find them out for yourself. In looking for them, you start to gain more and more information, but it's not necessarily in the right order, nor is it always remotely specific. It's the rush I imagine archaeologists have when they are unearthing tombs and the like; here is ground that has not seen people for thousands of years. Dark Souls has that same principle. You are an archaeologist trying to find the answers to a long-lost story, and the your imagination has a huge role in constructing it. I'd argue that this is where a lot of indie devs fail.
If you want to make a good minimalistic story, but still have the game be story driven, there has to be more to go on than slips of paper. The world has to effectively be the story. The world and story that the devs of Kholat picked are not without merit; there is a huge amount of potential with the setting and story, and I'm honestly sad to see it go to waste like this. But where they fail is linking the two together in a significant way. Like you said, the world is just empty, and things are scattered without rhyme or reason. They almost exist as separate entities, which only serves to make both of them fail. They are simply ignorant of the rules of the narrative style, and I think the point of them failing is the presence of the ghost enemies. They don't really serve the world or the gameplay all that much. They exist as roadblocks. That's not to say enemies = bad for story, but the way they were worked into Kholat was honestly terrible.
Kholat probably would've worked a lot better if the gameplay had been more along the lines of The Long Dark; you're trying to find out what happened to the five hikers, while you're trying to stay alive because of a brutal environment. Sure, you can have the supernatural, but make it more background stuff. Like, shadows moving in the corner of your eye, a few sounds just at the edge of hearing, and dim lights far from you. The world loses weight because it's just scenery, and the supernatural loses weight because it just isn't all that scary when it's pushed in your face. They don't really serve each other. Make the environment something you have to worry about, and it serves to push the hiker narrative more. You are trying to avoid repeating their mistakes, without knowing what those mistakes were. The supernatural can work as the antagonistic force, but don't let the player realize that fifteen minutes into the game.
TLDR: Minimalistic stories are difficult to do well, and a lot indie devs generally want to have profound stories without having the knowledge of how gameplay and story interact, and making the ambiguity of the story worth keeping. They give you too much information, and it ultimately fails. On top of that, the gameplay they frequently have makes it tedious to play.
Yahtzee's and Gabe's Horror fun:
Is it silent hill 2?
No? Then it sucks. Help me marry this toaster.
When are you doing your deconstruction of Silent Hill 2?
Hellnagel that would be a fun watch
Hellnagel I have my ps2 and silent hill 2 ready and waiting for this to play along. Even have the setting auto load on so it starts up my last save the moment I turn my ps2 on. I miss that feature :(
+Hellnagel Isn't Silent Hill already deconstructed by Konami? *PULL THE LEVER PULL THE LEVER PULL THE LEVER*
Back when mom and dad were so young and happy
--Adolf-- Abraham Lincon!
And together.
"Hey, Gabe ... remember when we found that camp?"
"Yes I do,"
"Good times, heh heh heh ... good times,"
Spooky, I was thinking about the Dylatov Pass incident this morning. Wait, what's that tapping at my windo...
Dear Diary, today I learned that Yahtzee and Gabe have no spatial awereness.
"I've never even seen snow"
I'm not sure if I envy Gabe or not.
I imagine Yahtzee being unbearable company.
12:09 its called a white out, i have skied in them about 4 times in my life, they come on in seconds and are scary as fuck when your alone and trying to find your way mostly because you could fall off a cliff you cant see and no one would ever know you where there. probably what the developer was going for but i dont know or care (might buy this game though)
Sean Bean in a game where you die as often as in a Sierra game? Fitting.
Gabe and Yahtzee are my favorite homosexuals on the internet.
Someone needs to fill the quota.
Liquid I feel like all of the homosexuals on the internet fill the 'homosexuals on the internet' quota
Liquid Yahtzee and Gabe are my favorite internets on the homosexual.
Liquid
Neither Nor, where are you?
Liquid Boo! Bring back the usual guy!
RisefromyourGRAVE I don't believe that every white person is denoting or relating to a molecular structure in which two particular atoms or groups lie on the same side of a given plane in the molecule, in particular denoting an isomer in which substituents at opposite ends of a carbon-carbon double bond are on the same side of the bond.
All I could think about at 4:40 :
All together now!
Random documents and audiologs!
We find them stuck to noticeboards, we find them under dogs!
We're gonna put them in a file and give it a review,
When we're bored of all the gameplay and we've nothing else to do!
I never got into Dragon Ball, but I will say I do appreciate it's emphasis on training. You can never be among the best until you've dedicated as much time and effort as the best. Dragon Ball is all about _Train, train, train, train, bullshit, BATTLE!_
Yahtzee you have the great ability to turn any scenario that is trying to be scary into something comical.
I just really want these to go on forever, there is nothing else in this world that is better than drown outs playing in the background while I do work
Well, about that...
@@lehelisboreddon’t tell me they ended…
This was an all right hiking simulator.
ChrisCarTheMarauder *terrible writing... 11/10! - PCGamer
ChrisCarTheMarauder Yeah, but this is some next level bad.
Almost like they made a gorgeous environment then remembered they needed a ploy for their game haha
if you normally go hiking with worlds shittest map
Gabe: "Their friends trying to eat them?"
Get ready, Samuel! Because HE'S COMING!
1:04:54
* Stares directly at page *
"Nope, nothin'"
Gabe, a snowstorm is a sandstorm, but snow. Piles up the same way. Gets in your eyes the same way. Stops traffic too.
Gabe has never seen snow. This makes me feel sad.
***** I saw a kangaroo kick a guy in the bollocks once. I've seen some shit, man.
***** If he was in a zoo in Britain, or anywhere else for that matter, I could understand that.
+Lord Funface The Atomic Toaster It makes me feel incredibly jealous. A week into spring and there's still two feet here. Fuck snow.
- Sincerely, Canada
shady4091 Embrace the snow. Just imagine us making snowmen together. You and a deep voiced British fellow dancing in the snow and making a snow castle.
Lord Funface The Atomic Toaster For you, Lord Funfance, I can make an exception ;)
Here's a question for you: When do you think that indie games began to be considered 'pretentious'?
pixl_man When marketing took over and micro transactions paved the way... Wait you didn't mean me? *sniff, wipes tear away* okay....
interesting question
pixl_man Braid.
pixl_man Totally Fez. Phil Fish was just an arrogant douche nugget and reminded everyone of John Romero for his "I'm a super star videogame designer" attitude.
The second the phrase "I'm into indie games" was uttered
I wonder how hard Sean Bean cringed at having to read the phrase "this one time...".
Also, I'm fairly sure there was a note below that photograph of a lady.
Should call the series "Let's Play with Severe Braindamage".
And what should we call you, with all your problems and such?
Icedrake201 who should call this series?
al gore?
jesus?
jimborow karnovski?
Vault-tec Rep Jim fucking Sterling, son.
Snowstorms in my experience are less foggy and more of an barrage of transparent blankets (I think thats the word) literally blocking your view thought it gets abit foggy several meters ahead in stronger storms, with stronger winds its more of an issue to keep your eyes open than actually seeing.
I'm starting to really hate this trend of horror games where you wander around with barely any functionality other than collecting notes and using a flashlight maybe you can understand why?
SinisterExaggerator I think they're trying to cash in on the sort of fame games like Amnesia got, but the problem is that a game like Kholat lacks the story, atmosphere, etc of Amnesia and other games that got it right. Knocking off mechanics will only get devs so far, the real heart of a game is in the writing and feel. Unfortunately we see this kind of bad knock-off everywhere, not just games, so expect it to be a trend to continue... the only way we can discourage it is by not supporting it.
tirsden
I think you have a good point about cashing in on the success of other games although I think Kholat does develop a interesting cold, frozen and isolated atmosphere very nicely but it just comes across as pretty backdrop to some very basic mechanics which seems to involve collecting scattered bits of text and dodging your stalker type monster a lot like Slenderman which i didn't like either but at least that game was free. While the same might be said for something like Amnesia had some intelligent AI to make it scary and interesting mechanics.
However even if Kholat had a good story i dislike having to stop read it by collecting scattered notes around the world as it disengages the immersion which is usually very important to a good horror game.
Quite often i watch some TH-cam personality play something (Total Biscuit usually a good buyers guide) I am not sure on before i would even think about buying it. Voting with your wallet is usually the best way of discouraging a game.
SinisterExaggerator Then don't play them.
Funnily enough i don't.
SinisterExaggerator i mean this game has some neat ideas. The idea of using a map and compass really makes a player appreciate the modern miracle that is GPS, and having to use land marks to get an idea of direction is fun. I think it just comes down to the map being to bloody big. Not to mention that you go some way you think is east and turns out its north ends up with players uninterested and bored.
If you die in a house full of cats, they'll eat your genitals first because they're really soft.
David Dalmatian You sure? My genitals are rarely soft.
David Dalmatian I'm fine with that. If they were polite enough to wait until i was dead to eat my genitals, i say let 'em go to town.
Know what else is really soft?
Old bread.
Thanks... Bro...
David Dalmatian Who cares? I'm dead. It's not like my genitals are all the more attractive when I'm a corpse, and even if they are, I would not be there to enjoy the lovely sex.
"I've never seen snow."
"Hoofing it in snow is not easy."
Direct quote from the king of "HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT" himself.
Sean Bean's nephew runs my local takeaway.
Cubed Gamers Robin Have you.....BEAN there a lot?
Hiyoooooooooooooooo!
Jayfive276 Well played, sir.
Cubed Gamers Robin His nephew runs the club nearby me in Sheffield
There's a guy in my local chip shop who swears he is Elvis.
Anaverageguy41 wait which club? I thought he owned the Broomhill friery.
Now you lot are all thinking of Big Sword McHonourpants when you hear Sean Bean, but when I hear Sean Bean I think of Big Sword McRiflepants. Over the hills and far away . . .
"I've never seen snow, but I'm presuming it's a lot of white."
-Gabe
1:02:02 Something about this part tickled my funny bone and had me really crying with laughter. Mainly Gabe's mockery.
you see, this is what I dont like about the more recent drown outs. talking about the game completly blocks out any topics, antectdotes about their lives, or viewer questions. this is basically a very disorganized lets play. I think you should reintroduce the "word" system for picking games, that was a really good time for drown out I think
Lucas Moran spot on about topics blocking, noticed it too.
Eh, they ran out of topics last time. I like the new ersatz wrongpurae format pretty well.
A game set in the USSR. Sweet!
But what we really need is a game set in the second half of 1980's Gorbachev's USSR where the culture was becoming heavily influenced by the West and free speech was a thing.
I felt the exact same way about Jurassic World, especially about the assistant's death. I felt rather disturbed in the theater, but my family won't shut up about how great it was and how funny that death was
I'm not a nude sleeper either. I understand the appeal -- unless you're unemployed and live alone, you have relatively few opportunities to be naked, and sleep is a big one -- but I just wouldn't be comfortable like that.
Also, I believe there was a piece of paper at the memorial; you just had to look down to see it.
30:25: _Due South_. Glad I'm not the only one who gets happily nostalgic for that show!
I think that an issue with this game, which it has in common with a lot of recent "horror" games, is that it doesn't really give you a compelling reason to give a shit.
You're just dropped smack dab in the middle of nowhere and "spooky" things happen and the game just goes "You figure it out". No game! Give me a hook, give me some reason for why I'm there and why I should care. A static opening narration just doesn't cut it.
Oh, and try not to kill me the second I find even a hint at intrigue because that just takes me straight out of the experience. There's a difference between establishing a threat (Psst, do it less than 10 minutes from the last save point - Especially if you need to kill the player to do it) and undoing all progress made just straight out of nowhere.
That fog there was bullshit, because at no point did the game establish that fog = bad. Are we to assume that orange things are bad? Well, that's undermined by those orange glowing footsteps earlier not killing us right away, isn't it? Dangerous things need to be telegraphed in some way or dying from them is just straight up bullshit.
Yeeees, finally I can get my Let's Drown Out fix.
Azoh No Azoh, this is an intervention.
You've had too much Let's Drown Out recently and frankly, it's tearing this family apart.
amyhunter83 Damn it Amy! We rehearsed this yesterday and you promised to not bring cocaine!
Miles Norsworthy Miles I'm the devil incarnate and you expect me to keep my word? No more cocaine for you for a week. I like to see the effects of withdrawal on you.
I dropped cocaine ages ago. I've been subsisting on nothing but fruit roll ups and horse tranquilizers.
amyhunter83 There aint no thing as Paddamajack, DId you say you had some crack?
Exerting yourself in very cold weather *can* be difficult. I'm always really startled at how hard it is to get up to speed on my bike in the cold.
I lost it at the windmilling bit. Haven't laughed that hard in a while.
Yatzhee isn't scared of games, games are scared of yatzhee.
I love this series...but I am concerned because I was binge watching and fell asleep during the Farming Simulator episode...thanks for the strange dreams guys...thanks so very much...
"...Windmiling shrieking like a banshee." I shot soda half-way across the room through my nose.
31:37 As a matter of fact the fart was quite audible, thank you Gabe.
34:05 Now I can only think of Yahtzee bursting out of the bedroom to surprise the home invader, with an erection, swinging a golf club with a crazed look on his face HAHAHA
Having grown up with this kind of weather a reagular feature of everyday life I'd say it's fairly accurate, does lack the feeling of your face freezing over, your boogers turning into ice inside your nose, the stinging feeling of sleet hitting your frozen face like needles on the wind and the burning sensation you get every time you pull freezing air into your lungs.
But hey, as far as a 2D screen can portray, fairly accurate.
Yes Lisa this needs to be done, it needs more attention. You're just great.
So Jam takes place in the same universe as Rob Blanc, Poacher, and the webcomic?
Mirokyu and mogworld.
Mirokyu the jam was created by the chzo cult! it's all connected man!
***** and chzo brought the mogworld characters to life in order to watch them suffer! it all makes sense!
Yal Rathol you! away to the Under-Zee with you!
***** can't hold me. i've got a boat and my maps are better than the commercially available ones.
That feel when the assistant dies in Jurassic world, and you're not sure what the filmmakers wanted you to feel.
Wait a second... is it just me or was that Godspeed You Black Emperor playing during the opening cinematic?
Being Swedish, hearing the sentence "I've never seen snow" is fucking bizarre.
I once used the first paragraph/sentence from one of my short stories as my windows account password. Was about 250 characters long, I was sincerely surprised it let me have a password that long :-D
So if this is about the Dyatlov Pass incident, in which all 10 victims were Russian, why are the voiceovers for the notes in British accents? Could they not find or afford eastern-European voice actors (or decent fakes, we are talking about fucking voice actors) or is this like when people always put on English accents to play ancient Romans? Fuck it, call me down to the sound booth with a Slim-Jim and a can of Dr. Pepper and I'll give you my best Comrade Ivan.
Being drunk helps.
Joe Franklin Metro 2033 and last light had Russian accents, so those were more authentic then this.
Joe Franklin I'm surprised this is the only mention of the Dyatlov Pass incident in the comments.
***** Having accents displays their correct nationality without needing subtitles in order to understand them. That's just me though, it adds some character to the game when done correctly. That's one of the reasons I love Assassin's Creed 2 so much, their Italian accents were lovely to listen too and didn't necessarily feel out of place.
***** unless there's a generic English language, people will recognise the accent as being from a region that is not the same as where the game takes place. Having them do Russian accents would sort of make it feel like they're speaking Russian but we can understand them for some reason, and won't invoke a sense that they're foreigners in their own land. Accent matters for atmosphere.
If he's Sean Bean then I bet they'll stop the narration early on! The narrator dies!
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who remembers Due South. :'D
Sean Bean even dies in voiceovers, because that's his thing. He died in Oblivion. Anyone who does not make Sean Bean die in a creative work is an amateur. One must tease the idea of the death of Sean Bean multiple times and then have him die in a significant and meaningful way. For instance, he turned into a fucking dragon in Oblivion and saved the world.
"I played it for about 38 minutes..."
Very specific for an "about".
cucumb3rbuttocks is actually a better password than the majority of people have.
not anymore, cos that's gonna be the first one I try from now on
gg
having lived in newcastle in the winter of 2012-2013, where there was a literal snowstorm i can pretty much say that yes being in a snowstorm is like that
except with less visibility.
I got stuck in a whiteout level windstorm once when I was winter camping. It was night, and all I could see ahead of me was the 3 or so metres of blowing snow lit blue by my flashlight. It was a terrifying, almost otherworldly experience.
The Pringles man is behind this
I know the ego review come out in order of release but will you ever do Hatfall
11:35 It took me a minute to remember you were from Australia when you admitted that you had never seen snow before.
00:21 "Welcome to this repeat." 3 years later, how relevant.
That inverted "K" really bugs me. I mean, is this the best thing people can do, when trying to make something look russian?
I guess they ran out of "Я" 's.
Kholat is part of the mountain name "Kholat Syakhl", which is translated from Mansi language as "Dead Mountain". By chance it is also sounds kinda close to "holod" (холод), Russian for coldness.
This is the mountain on witch Dyatlov Incident took place, you are correct.
Atmosphere is one thing, but this game is straight up fucking boring
If you like a game with a map system where you have to deduce where you are based on landmarks and triangulating your position, Miasmata might be an interesting choice for a future Let's Drown Out video.
Superman powers because Superman only has one power; everything he imagines becomes reality. This is why Superman seems to develop new powers when they're plot critical and the explanations of his powers are so absurd; Superman is the self-construct of an unimaginative and slightly dim person.
Nicholas Scott More and less, the idealize Superman is really boring, the Superman from the mainstream comics, TV Shows and movies is much better, and yeah, you are right, DC should break his policy that every author should write whatever they want about their characters, they should do more like Marvel, and put defined limits in their characters.
4:41
♫ Random documents!,
And audio logs!,
You can find them on a table,
You can fine them under dogs,
♫We are gonna put it in our game,
And give it a review!
(Something something forgot the words) nothing else to do!
*BUMP*
got it... yahtzee's password is
8008y8008y8um8um
TVlord5 5punkg4rg13w33w33
1011010dolphinwank10101010
The use of common substitions actually reduces the space of possible characters. The best passwords are really long (length>20) strings of letters. somethinglikethiswouldactuallybeaprettydecentpasswordeasyforapersontorememberbuthardforacomputertoguess.
He played it for 38 minutes? Is the steam server through a Stargate?
Have either of you guys gone back and given Demon's Souls another shot?
rmwing After completing Dark souls, Dark souls 2 and Blood borne, I went to try out Demons souls... It's so hard, but rewarding if only for the small amounts of grass people seem to be growing on themselves during different lunar cycles.
TheGunMentor Only played DeS and DS1, and I consider DeS both harder and not as satisfying as DS1. Not enough variety to levels, enemies, weapons, or bosses (though there are a few gems there still) and World Tendency is a fucking bitch that just never stops screwing you over. Upgrading gear is a lot more difficult too (good luck with those Pure Bladestones!), shops sell items at prohibitively high costs, and you simultaneously get fewer souls from enemies and leveling up costs more, and Stones of Ephemeral Eyes -the Humanity equivalent- are rarer than pieces of the True Cross.
That said, nothing in Dark Souls made me as depressed as talking to Astrea after killing Garl Vinland. Nothing.
5 years late, but Yahtzee has played the DeS remake on PS5, if that counts.
My Dark Souls run at the Chasm of the Abyss last night was carefully drowned with the voices of these blokes. :D
Sean Bean... sigh... Never would have thought that his Boromir would be overshadowed by his Ned Stark.
"The place where you collected the note will be marked on the map"
well that's a promising start.
Goku and Superman both can fly unaided, have super speed, super strength, and super toughness (the degree of difference between the two will start a nerd war, so I won't bother bringing it up).
Superman can shoot heat vision from his eyes, see microscopically and has telescope vision. Depending on the source, he can also travel unaided through outer space. He also doesn't NEED to eat, as he is powered by a yellow sun. A BLUE sun makes all of his powers even stronger. He doesn't get any power from a red sun though, meaning eventually he'll lose his powers until he'll get under a yellow sun. He also has the Kryptonite weakness and magic can pass through his toughness easily.
Goku can shoot lasers from his hands (and his feet once), teleport anywhere in the universe literally instantly, gets exponentially stronger every time he is beaten to NEAR death, and can transform into similiar forms that give you anywhere from 50 times to 400 times you current power.
GSSAGE7 Unrelated, but what the fuck happened to the senzu beans? Why did they stop eating senzu beans? They should have made senzu bean chili, but no. No more senzu beans. Also, Goku did a super saiyan spirit bomb ONCE in Super Android 13, I think the movie was called, and then it was never brought up again. Continuity errors. Blarg. *shakes fist*
Bodalla Gaming Senzu beans don't come up much because Yajarobi keeps eating them all. Yes, really. That's why they frequently only come up with a handful. That and the fact that they take a long time to grow anywhere.
Also, movies aren't canon. If there's any continuity errors, assume anything with Toriyama directly involved is right. So Goku can't use the spirit bomb as a Super Sayain.
I respect your insight. However, super sayain spirit bomb is an amazing concept. It was like a ball of hellfire and death. He basically threw a sun at them. At a time when I was really starting to value the other characters higher than Goku, Goku showed just how much of a badass he still was. So even though it wasn't canon, it redeemed Goku as the amazing character fans originally fell in love with.
Bodalla Gaming You have to remember, a major part of the Spirit Bomb was that you had to be pure of heart to use it. And the Super Sayain transformation taints you, to the point that you aren't pure of heart anymore.
Yahtzee calling the game Chocolat just really cracks me up
Yahtz and Gabe, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this:
Would you say that words only have the power you give them? It seems to me that people are only ever offended by words because they feel the need to be offended by them, or because they do not let go of what happened in the past to attribute that word/those words to pain.
I like the opening cut scene, gives a lot of room for imagination and I think that assists horror
You really should take up his offer, Yahtzee. LISA is INCREDIBLE, and you'll probably like it even more since you seem to be a fan of Earthbound.
i remember playing dead space 3 co-op the first jump scare happend and i blew away the necromorph with an rpg needless to say that set the tone for the entire game
Lisa the painful Rpg is one of the best games you will ever play. I can't believe Gabriel mentioned it!!!
It's shockingly easy to get a number of high profile actors on the cheap, really. You just have the project set up and ready to go, you have the cash in hand, and you ask. Reason being, most big productions ask you on and then it's months or even years before it happens, so the immediate kind of approach is attractive to professionals. Bill Drummond of the KLF almost got Yoko Ono to appear in a twelve hour rock opera based on The Illuminatus books way back when, except she'd just had a child. He just looked her up and called her, was the approach. Uwe Boll also scores good talent using this approach.
As well, you'd be shocked by the level of talent that will respond to a simple ad in a trade paper, even when you stress it's low budget.
"I saw Jurassic World with my girlfriend. I didn't like it very much"
Lmao. Really? Can't say I'm surprised. ^^
As an Assassin's Creed multiplayer fan, those whispers make me think my Pursuer is near. STAHP.
My thoughts exactly on those two movies. Also that person that dies who we don't really know.
If the Terminator steps on the primordial soup humans never intent skynet, terminators never made to go back to step in the primordial soup, the universe pops out of existence.
This game's plot is a complete shamble. "There was this thing, mysterious thing, investigate, oh you're dead. Now go ahead and disregard any reason for you to even do whatever you do. *bonk bonk bonk* Is my brain flowing out yet? I don't feelrsgdgh anythibargggg..."
You mentioned it in a early video, however I'm curious about your opinion of the Lego Movie. I'd be tickled pink to hear more about that. Since you guys are trying to pick boring games another good pick might be a racing game. We haven't seen a racing game yet. :)