AI is like eating with the strict boomer parents; this is what there is to eat and you either eat it or you eat it. If I ask anyone to create something for me there would be discussions on what exactly I want and there would be back and forth, there could even be push back on some of my ideas because they might not be feasible or be a good fit for the project. AI just spits out what it can in a effort to output something. The scary thing about AI is not AI but it is all those people that are so eager to embrace it with open arms and are not the least bit critical of the major flaws and deficiencies it has, yes it will get better but by rushing into AI head first it will actually not be allowed to mature since AI is already eating it's own tail.
I'm not criticizing, but I'd like to clarify your explanation of diffusion models. Indeed, they use noise and text prompts to generate images, but AI can only produce images based on learned trained data. Current models can't "leave" the learned embedding space, meaning they essentially interpolate images from existing images, which are usually gotten without proper rights. The reason why it doesn't feel or look like a straightforward interpolation is that embedding spaces are very high dimensional so there's just no way of visualizing them, but that doesn't mean that we don't understand mathematically what these spaces mean. Regarding the future, even though there are some crazy advancements with larger models, we are far away from achieving fully realistic, physics-coherent videos, and what's more, we have no clear way forward with the current AI growth paradigm, which is to just make everything larger. It's too soon to assume AI will dominate all industries, including filmmaking :).
The original version of Planet of the apes was consider goofy and cheap even when it cames out, the best comparison you can make is with the opening scene of 2001, that still looks way better then all the digital movies from the last decade. The harsh reality is that all these new techs serve just to cut productions costs and rise the profits. have you tried to watch "the avengers" again 12 years later? looks like SH*T!
I feel like there's two extremes when it comes to AI - those who think it will replace everything fast and show no empathy to those concerned for future employment vs. those who think AI will never be good and has no use. I think somewhere in the middle is what will really happen. It will likely co-exist with other art forms and blend into the background until it becomes another accepted art form just as photography (which would have seemed 'soulless' to painters of the 1850s) became common. But as I say conventional creativity will likely still persist for a wide range of reasons incl. a demand for sheer human production.
This video started like he was going to have a leveled take on the subject and then he went to tell us how awesome will be to just prompt an AI to make an entire movie for you... What a sad reality that would be
That was me giving an example as to what the industry will likely turn into. No science fiction hot takes here just predicting how things will turn out.
@kevinwatson234 and I didn't state otherwise. My point is, if your prediction turns out true (Which I honestly don't believe it will) that would be a pretty sad reality to live in, let me explain myself better: It's obvious by your take and your enthusiasm for that possible future that you look at movies (and art as whole) like products, something "cool" to distract and entertain yourself. Movies aren't just that. Movies are made with intent, they are stories that *someone* wants to tell, sometimes deeply personal stories that you wouldn't get by prompting an ML model. Sometimes they present ideas that might conflict with your own and challenge us, prompting an "AI" to make a movie exactly for us will only take those challenging ideas away and only take us deep into the hole of brain rot that already exists due to the internet and social networks. Look, I work in tech, I work with machine learning and my thesis was about machine learning. I love the subject and I can see ML becoming a powerful tool to enhance and help real artists (like prompting midjourney to generate something that they might use as a reference in the future). But your prediction - your take - is just horrifying to think about, just dystopic
So it's much better to have a small group of people gatekeep the movies that are made? You want to keep Hollywood in power to have a stranglehold on entertainment? Are you afraid of losing your access to the "casting couch"? Are you afraid of not being able to launder money through bad films? Are you afraid of losing celebrity status? Are you afraid that we will make better movies than you, when the financial gate comes tumbling down?
@@Mind_ConTroll If you don't think a similar government of control will form just over the status of those who are sa the top 5 creators vs everyone else. You're sadly mistaken. Flawed totalitarian systems develop because people who have a lot of ambition tend to want to be the best and once they reach a certain point, most successful people, (especially when they're still young), believe their successes to actually BE their identity. And therefore,they will be willing to do whatever it takes to keep their high status positions at the top at all costs. .I.E. creating an invisible system of power, a sort of bureaucracy of corruption where the top creators figure out they can go on to create their own in house A.I. marketing studios where they can spend the capital to market the creators with status beneath them and their A.I. movies. What do you think their terms will be most of the time? Casting couch? Or worse? Unfortunately, there is no way of knowing if someone successful today that has just received their success story at 18-25 years old will in the future become a sick perverted tyrant. Quite infamously this happened to many of the Caesars of Rome. They started off fairly normal, however after becoming Emperor, due to the great power that they held, the constant paranoia of being killed by their own loved ones and friends, and all of the pressures of being a ruling politician general, pretty much created over night sociopathic perverts that felt they could do whatever they pleased due to developing god complexes. It's a tale as old as time sadly... This happens today with many content creators on social media websites not even associated with Hollywood. Because it's not just Hollywood that's corrupt... It's human nature that is.... Especially when young people aren't raised properly and taught, morality, respect, discipline, and why living a life for truth is so important. Because if you live a life fully engulfed in the left hand path you will end up a chaotic, self destructive, Lord of nothing but filth. Just like the psychotic Caeser that once ruled Rome practically into the ground. Emperor Caligula... Understand what I'm saying, the shadow self must be understood and accepted, but it also must also be tamed in this process or else it WILL take complete control, and possibly for could. Like some kind of animalistic demonic beast. This is why I believe instead of all of the money corporations and governments are dumping into A.I. if they really wanted to make our world a better place, or a possible future utopia, they'd invest all of that money into good propaganda that encourages families to stick together because it takes a village to raise a child. So if they don't want a bleak future, they should study the fuck out of how to make children more mentally healthy. Because obviously Western Civilization has failed raising the past several generations of children. As they are far worse off mentally, emotionally, and physically then the previous generations for sure. Hell maybe they could even put their money into generating some good propaganda for once, instead of bad. That seems to be all our rulers are good at. Teach society to love not fear, but we are a long, long, long way from that. And no, A.I. is not that magic wand to wave and make all of that go away either. All it will do is cause a lot of even worse watered down. Entertainment, and cause A LOT of skilled craftsman to become obsolete, useless, and most importantly, jobless. Creating more out of work people adding to the growing population of people living in poverty today. It's not like hardware in the past where it can create jobs. Mark my fucking words. This is a job eliminator and it will create chaos wherever it is let loose completely unrestricted...
Well 30 years ago I had to wait for the weekend to watch basically 2 series, Dragonball and Doraemon. That's TV. But now I can just watch "whatever" I want, anytime I want all on TH-cam or other platforms. Is that a sad reality? It's not. People move on, and new stuff will be created. Are you one of the few that still buying newspapers?
the "industry" monopolizes everything, while at the same time trying to keep costs low. there is no way in hell hollywood will not monopolize this technology, while at the same time, firing thousands of creatives and crew workers in the process. i know this for a fact, because not only am i a filmmaker trying to get his original content made, i also know that corporations are already using ai for script assessment. they have cut out the human component, and instead have scripts read by an ai checklist program, that blindly determines whether it thinks a script is a hit or not. the human component is rapidly disappearing from an industry already ruled by bean counters who don't know anything about quality. the more we embrace ai, the harder we make it for quality content, made by ACTUAL artists possible.
why would u want a future like this? u just want a sludge generator
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I love your take on this and fully agree. The example of Multiple AI's pivoting on one another to create something is cool and I think single people will be able to create films with larger production quality than they would be now, meaning that that product they create can now compete with a multimillion dollar corporate product. But since what they created was cheaper and the requirement on the return is less, then there is less pressure for it to succeed at the market. This means that they can _create_ UNHINDERED by ROI and just create the best thing they can ... but also, if a corporation wants to compete with the individual's AI-assisted production, then they will have to do with lots of passion and CREATIVITY to captivate an audience. If anyone truly understands this they will see this is a fantastic development in the film and media. You won't have to contend with terrible films like Snow White remakes made by Social Justice Warriors or Woke revisionist version of LOTR. You'll get something truly GOOD again.
Fairly depressing, though I don’t think you’re wrong for the board strokes. Saying that the “talent will succeed” isn’t a true statement NOW. The massive union movement in the film industry the last few years demonstrates that studios do not see talent as the value in the film industry. But regardless of industry thoughts, what worries me more is the navel gazing proposition. That we won’t see films to see someone else’s perspective, craft and vision. Instead opting for conscious dreams, dreams we can lose ourselves in. Private fantasies made real, it sounds good in abstract but you look at the effects of social media, a less refined version of this concept: walled gardens of perspective and aesthetic. The effect on connection and even attention are still being accounted for. Regardless, thanks for the video! Well put together and clearly thought provoking. 😊
I would honestly relate the “talent succeeding” comment to something like TH-cam rather than any sort of film platform. I’m hoping we get away from the corporate filmmaking structure we’re in and using AI, move more towards completely independent creators.
A.I is a tool not refined not honed just yet , we are the other side of it once we come into balance with it and use it for almost doing the homework so we can play and im a artist artist I write and draw by hand but I understand it and actually laugh at the twitter artist because you’re screwed ! My art will always be in business but you are becoming obsolete! Perfection in my imperfections
just gonna say ur job isnt safe at all either, ai already has and will have more corporate uses, the entire artistic industry is replaceable by ai and is far cheaper than people, just because you think you're above other artists doesnt mean anyone else thinks your better
@@axp007 im going for a niche thats dependent on people and not corporations thats where you artist failed ! Cheaper yes but my creativity and imperfections are still hard to replicate so there for I fall into categories of a premier artist or aleast thats where im heading
@@axp007 its not that I feel above people its thats I think that artist I kinda stupid and self indulgent and that has lead to most of them doing things digital and not developing a craft that will be beneficial to the future and complain about A.I theft when honestly to bad its the future
All AI generated art copyright applications have so far been denied by the courts in the USA, (see "Zarya of the Dawn). Basically only humans can create and own copyrighted work, so if creating an AI generated film will therefore be free & open source, what incentive is there for any studio to do so?
My guess would be that laws will change in the process. Whatever you’re reading about it now won’t be applicable since the entire landscape will have changed. And a studio would do so to save costs and battle against independent creators.
@@kevinwatsonwkw I see your point RE: your imagination and the cat, but the point really is that Midjourney for example has been explicitly trained on copyrighted material scraped from web image searches, whereas the human mind has overwhelming real life experiences that it draws from (as well as other art subconsciously) so it's not really a fair comparison. Without being fed thousands of copyrighted works, Midjourney et al would not be outputting the kind of work they are.
Interesting ideas - maybe I wouldn't have thrown the Amazon analogy in there as a positive though :) Hope you don't mind me suggesting an idea for your videos. Whenever you use a piece of background footage, put it's source somewhere on screen. I was distracted trying to decide if some of the film clips were AI, and if they weren't, where did they come from? (Case in point at 4:44).
Fascinating! And just imagine you can recreate your own life visually by finding the right words to explain and catch the moment. And your siblings can, too, and those will be vastly different perspectives of a life shared. The million dollar question will be, who‘s stories will draw the most attention
"(AI isn't) an accumulation of stolen artistic property that puts 20 images together and labels it as new" *Explains how it is, in fact, exactly that* Even humans are a confluence of only our experineces. AI images are the result of a confluence of all input, which has been taken without consent and used without consent. Videos, works of art, music, books -- all to feed something that can then use multiple samples to replicate it. It's all 100% dirivative and the issue here is that the people that put the effort into creating the source materials will never be credited, never be compensated, and will also lose out on opportunities.
Cant write music without hearing music and essentially taking tiny pieces from every influence to call it new. In that sense, nothing is really ever new and original. What I was saying is its not taking this exact picture of a cat and copy pasting it into the image which is what the majority of people were thinking it does. Its creating a new cat based off thousands of influences and the understanding of what a cat is.
@@kevinwatsonwkw But it still a commercial product trained on the work of artist without permission or compensation, which will essentially serve a giant conglomerate. The ethics of this stuff is crazy. The idea that people can't see how unethical it is, is mind blowing.
@@SereneBobcat "Transformative" uses of copyrighted material is not copyright infringement. This is how google won their lawsuit over scraping copyrighted books and set the current IP precedent that allows AI systems to exist right now, and the same thing will happen after these AI lawsuits play out, since it's the exact same legal principle that AI companies are relying on. If I take your work and transform it, I no longer need your permission to use it. It's the fair use doctrine.
Yeah but there also goes video as a record keeping medium as well. As soon we wont be able to determine if what we are seeing is real or not.. so thats not terrifying at all. I am however extremely excited to see what can be done. New art tools, new media.. i mean just look at the progress in 100 years! Both new horrors and delights await, of that we can be sure
You can't tell what is real or not now. Have you forgotten 2020? Have you forgotten the last 8 years of lies and propaganda? The only way to know what's real, now or in the future, is research, and people don't want to do it now anymore than they will in the future. It's not the medium that is the problem, it's the people.
Me wanting to completely create an entire movie from scratch completely by myself is artless? I understand where youre coming from but I would have to disagree. It just makes these things more accessible to everyone. Intuitive creation is the future imo
@@kevinwatsonwkw you're not creating an entire movie 'from scratch' or by yourself. you're offloading the writing, directing, and cinematography to a computer, which is itself just pulling tropes and patterns from other people's art. i'm not an anti-AI luddite, but in the workflow you're describing you didn't have any original ideas or creativity, you just asked a robot to pump out some sludge content. why did you want to become an artist?
@@samgorman2258 Every "Artist", "pulls tropes and patterns" form other people's art, you just call it "inspiration". You're just mad more people will have access to your lil "elite" club. The time of, "you're not buying the art, you're buying the artist", is over. As an "Artist", how do you feel about Hunter Biden's art selling for hundreds of thousands of dollars? Is he a better Artist than you?
life was so much better without ai, i literally can't stop thinking about it everyday the stress gets worse. i think i will legit prefer world war 3 than what's happening.
'like always, the talent will rise to the top.' that's never been true, and it won't be made true by the advent of AI. the idea that the algorithms and forces of capital that help determine what gets created and funded are based purely on talent/merit is completely laughable. and even if we allow that meritocracy will exist in AI video generation, what criteria are being used to determine 'talent'? who gets to determine that? even if we put aside all of the questions as to whether AI art should be considered equivalent to human art (it shouldn't), this perspective is just another permutation of free market thinking. so profoundly naïve.
In a utopian future, AI is supposed to diminish the boring labour jobs instead of the creative labour that is like, actually fun for humans. Instead, AI is treated like a wonder machine for 'art' to make a quick buck with it, instead of providing anything useful for humanity.
😮 I bet there are monkeys l when people started drawing😮 a drawn art is terrible you'll destroy the traditions of oral tradition😮 you people are ridiculous you cling to the past😮
AI is like eating with the strict boomer parents; this is what there is to eat and you either eat it or you eat it. If I ask anyone to create something for me there would be discussions on what exactly I want and there would be back and forth, there could even be push back on some of my ideas because they might not be feasible or be a good fit for the project. AI just spits out what it can in a effort to output something. The scary thing about AI is not AI but it is all those people that are so eager to embrace it with open arms and are not the least bit critical of the major flaws and deficiencies it has, yes it will get better but by rushing into AI head first it will actually not be allowed to mature since AI is already eating it's own tail.
I'm not criticizing, but I'd like to clarify your explanation of diffusion models. Indeed, they use noise and text prompts to generate images, but AI can only produce images based on learned trained data. Current models can't "leave" the learned embedding space, meaning they essentially interpolate images from existing images, which are usually gotten without proper rights. The reason why it doesn't feel or look like a straightforward interpolation is that embedding spaces are very high dimensional so there's just no way of visualizing them, but that doesn't mean that we don't understand mathematically what these spaces mean. Regarding the future, even though there are some crazy advancements with larger models, we are far away from achieving fully realistic, physics-coherent videos, and what's more, we have no clear way forward with the current AI growth paradigm, which is to just make everything larger. It's too soon to assume AI will dominate all industries, including filmmaking :).
The original version of Planet of the apes was consider goofy and cheap even when it cames out, the best comparison you can make is with the opening scene of 2001, that still looks way better then all the digital movies from the last decade.
The harsh reality is that all these new techs serve just to cut productions costs and rise the profits.
have you tried to watch "the avengers" again 12 years later?
looks like SH*T!
Fair point but it certainly shows a massive amount of progress.
The future is dark and bleak.
We,re Fucked
Almost ended the video with that. "Thanks for watching. We're all fucked."
Everbody freaked out over digital compositing too.
I feel like there's two extremes when it comes to AI - those who think it will replace everything fast and show no empathy to those concerned for future employment vs. those who think AI will never be good and has no use. I think somewhere in the middle is what will really happen. It will likely co-exist with other art forms and blend into the background until it becomes another accepted art form just as photography (which would have seemed 'soulless' to painters of the 1850s) became common. But as I say conventional creativity will likely still persist for a wide range of reasons incl. a demand for sheer human production.
This video started like he was going to have a leveled take on the subject and then he went to tell us how awesome will be to just prompt an AI to make an entire movie for you... What a sad reality that would be
That was me giving an example as to what the industry will likely turn into. No science fiction hot takes here just predicting how things will turn out.
@kevinwatson234 and I didn't state otherwise. My point is, if your prediction turns out true (Which I honestly don't believe it will) that would be a pretty sad reality to live in, let me explain myself better: It's obvious by your take and your enthusiasm for that possible future that you look at movies (and art as whole) like products, something "cool" to distract and entertain yourself. Movies aren't just that. Movies are made with intent, they are stories that *someone* wants to tell, sometimes deeply personal stories that you wouldn't get by prompting an ML model. Sometimes they present ideas that might conflict with your own and challenge us, prompting an "AI" to make a movie exactly for us will only take those challenging ideas away and only take us deep into the hole of brain rot that already exists due to the internet and social networks.
Look, I work in tech, I work with machine learning and my thesis was about machine learning. I love the subject and I can see ML becoming a powerful tool to enhance and help real artists (like prompting midjourney to generate something that they might use as a reference in the future). But your prediction - your take - is just horrifying to think about, just dystopic
So it's much better to have a small group of people gatekeep the movies that are made? You want to keep Hollywood in power to have a stranglehold on entertainment?
Are you afraid of losing your access to the "casting couch"? Are you afraid of not being able to launder money through bad films? Are you afraid of losing celebrity status?
Are you afraid that we will make better movies than you, when the financial gate comes tumbling down?
@@Mind_ConTroll If you don't think a similar government of control will form just over the status of those who are sa the top 5 creators vs everyone else. You're sadly mistaken. Flawed totalitarian systems develop because people who have a lot of ambition tend to want to be the best and once they reach a certain point, most successful people, (especially when they're still young), believe their successes to actually BE their identity. And therefore,they will be willing to do whatever it takes to keep their high status positions at the top at all costs.
.I.E. creating an invisible system of power, a sort of bureaucracy of corruption where the top creators figure out they can go on to create their own in house A.I. marketing studios where they can spend the capital to market the creators with status beneath them and their A.I. movies. What do you think their terms will be most of the time?
Casting couch? Or worse?
Unfortunately, there is no way of knowing if someone successful today that has just received their success story at 18-25 years old will in the future become a sick perverted tyrant. Quite infamously this happened to many of the Caesars of Rome. They started off fairly normal, however after becoming Emperor, due to the great power that they held, the constant paranoia of being killed by their own loved ones and friends, and all of the pressures of being a ruling politician general, pretty much created over night sociopathic perverts that felt they could do whatever they pleased due to developing god complexes.
It's a tale as old as time sadly...
This happens today with many content creators on social media websites not even associated with Hollywood.
Because it's not just Hollywood that's corrupt...
It's human nature that is....
Especially when young people aren't raised properly and taught, morality, respect, discipline, and why living a life for truth is so important. Because if you live a life fully engulfed in the left hand path you will end up a chaotic, self destructive, Lord of nothing but filth. Just like the psychotic Caeser that once ruled Rome practically into the ground. Emperor Caligula...
Understand what I'm saying, the shadow self must be understood and accepted, but it also must also be tamed in this process or else it WILL take complete control, and possibly for could. Like some kind of animalistic demonic beast.
This is why I believe instead of all of the money corporations and governments are dumping into A.I. if they really wanted to make our world a better place, or a possible future utopia, they'd invest all of that money into good propaganda that encourages families to stick together because it takes a village to raise a child. So if they don't want a bleak future, they should study the fuck out of how to make children more mentally healthy. Because obviously Western Civilization has failed raising the past several generations of children. As they are far worse off mentally, emotionally, and physically then the previous generations for sure. Hell maybe they could even put their money into generating some good propaganda for once, instead of bad. That seems to be all our rulers are good at. Teach society to love not fear, but we are a long, long, long way from that.
And no, A.I. is not that magic wand to wave and make all of that go away either.
All it will do is cause a lot of even worse watered down. Entertainment, and cause A LOT of skilled craftsman to become obsolete, useless, and most importantly, jobless. Creating more out of work people adding to the growing population of people living in poverty today.
It's not like hardware in the past where it can create jobs. Mark my fucking words.
This is a job eliminator and it will create chaos wherever it is let loose completely unrestricted...
Well 30 years ago I had to wait for the weekend to watch basically 2 series, Dragonball and Doraemon. That's TV.
But now I can just watch "whatever" I want, anytime I want all on TH-cam or other platforms. Is that a sad reality? It's not. People move on, and new stuff will be created. Are you one of the few that still buying newspapers?
the "industry" monopolizes everything, while at the same time trying to keep costs low. there is no way in hell hollywood will not monopolize this technology, while at the same time, firing thousands of creatives and crew workers in the process. i know this for a fact, because not only am i a filmmaker trying to get his original content made, i also know that corporations are already using ai for script assessment. they have cut out the human component, and instead have scripts read by an ai checklist program, that blindly determines whether it thinks a script is a hit or not. the human component is rapidly disappearing from an industry already ruled by bean counters who don't know anything about quality. the more we embrace ai, the harder we make it for quality content, made by ACTUAL artists possible.
why would u want a future like this? u just want a sludge generator
I love your take on this and fully agree. The example of Multiple AI's pivoting on one another to create something is cool and I think single people will be able to create films with larger production quality than they would be now, meaning that that product they create can now compete with a multimillion dollar corporate product. But since what they created was cheaper and the requirement on the return is less, then there is less pressure for it to succeed at the market. This means that they can _create_ UNHINDERED by ROI and just create the best thing they can ... but also, if a corporation wants to compete with the individual's AI-assisted production, then they will have to do with lots of passion and CREATIVITY to captivate an audience. If anyone truly understands this they will see this is a fantastic development in the film and media.
You won't have to contend with terrible films like Snow White remakes made by Social Justice Warriors or Woke revisionist version of LOTR. You'll get something truly GOOD again.
1.2k views but less than 50 likes? Is TH-cam broken?
Fairly depressing, though I don’t think you’re wrong for the board strokes. Saying that the “talent will succeed” isn’t a true statement NOW. The massive union movement in the film industry the last few years demonstrates that studios do not see talent as the value in the film industry.
But regardless of industry thoughts, what worries me more is the navel gazing proposition. That we won’t see films to see someone else’s perspective, craft and vision. Instead opting for conscious dreams, dreams we can lose ourselves in. Private fantasies made real, it sounds good in abstract but you look at the effects of social media, a less refined version of this concept: walled gardens of perspective and aesthetic. The effect on connection and even attention are still being accounted for.
Regardless, thanks for the video! Well put together and clearly thought provoking. 😊
I would honestly relate the “talent succeeding” comment to something like TH-cam rather than any sort of film platform. I’m hoping we get away from the corporate filmmaking structure we’re in and using AI, move more towards completely independent creators.
A.I is a tool not refined not honed just yet , we are the other side of it once we come into balance with it and use it for almost doing the homework so we can play and im a artist artist I write and draw by hand but I understand it and actually laugh at the twitter artist because you’re screwed ! My art will always be in business but you are becoming obsolete! Perfection in my imperfections
just gonna say ur job isnt safe at all either, ai already has and will have more corporate uses, the entire artistic industry is replaceable by ai and is far cheaper than people, just because you think you're above other artists doesnt mean anyone else thinks your better
@@axp007 im going for a niche thats dependent on people and not corporations thats where you artist failed ! Cheaper yes but my creativity and imperfections are still hard to replicate so there for I fall into categories of a premier artist or aleast thats where im heading
@@axp007 its not that I feel above people its thats I think that artist I kinda stupid and self indulgent and that has lead to most of them doing things digital and not developing a craft that will be beneficial to the future and complain about A.I theft when honestly to bad its the future
All AI generated art copyright applications have so far been denied by the courts in the USA, (see "Zarya of the Dawn). Basically only humans can create and own copyrighted work, so if creating an AI generated film will therefore be free & open source, what incentive is there for any studio to do so?
My guess would be that laws will change in the process. Whatever you’re reading about it now won’t be applicable since the entire landscape will have changed.
And a studio would do so to save costs and battle against independent creators.
@@kevinwatsonwkw I see your point RE: your imagination and the cat, but the point really is that Midjourney for example has been explicitly trained on copyrighted material scraped from web image searches, whereas the human mind has overwhelming real life experiences that it draws from (as well as other art subconsciously) so it's not really a fair comparison.
Without being fed thousands of copyrighted works, Midjourney et al would not be outputting the kind of work they are.
Interesting ideas - maybe I wouldn't have thrown the Amazon analogy in there as a positive though :)
Hope you don't mind me suggesting an idea for your videos. Whenever you use a piece of background footage, put it's source somewhere on screen. I was distracted trying to decide if some of the film clips were AI, and if they weren't, where did they come from? (Case in point at 4:44).
Have you ever watched a movie?
Its my job so yes
Fascinating! And just imagine you can recreate your own life visually by finding the right words to explain and catch the moment. And your siblings can, too, and those will be vastly different perspectives of a life shared. The million dollar question will be, who‘s stories will draw the most attention
Just blew my mind, bro
"(AI isn't) an accumulation of stolen artistic property that puts 20 images together and labels it as new"
*Explains how it is, in fact, exactly that*
Even humans are a confluence of only our experineces.
AI images are the result of a confluence of all input, which has been taken without consent and used without consent. Videos, works of art, music, books -- all to feed something that can then use multiple samples to replicate it. It's all 100% dirivative and the issue here is that the people that put the effort into creating the source materials will never be credited, never be compensated, and will also lose out on opportunities.
Cant write music without hearing music and essentially taking tiny pieces from every influence to call it new. In that sense, nothing is really ever new and original. What I was saying is its not taking this exact picture of a cat and copy pasting it into the image which is what the majority of people were thinking it does. Its creating a new cat based off thousands of influences and the understanding of what a cat is.
@@kevinwatsonwkw But it still a commercial product trained on the work of artist without permission or compensation, which will essentially serve a giant conglomerate. The ethics of this stuff is crazy. The idea that people can't see how unethical it is, is mind blowing.
@@SereneBobcat "Transformative" uses of copyrighted material is not copyright infringement. This is how google won their lawsuit over scraping copyrighted books and set the current IP precedent that allows AI systems to exist right now, and the same thing will happen after these AI lawsuits play out, since it's the exact same legal principle that AI companies are relying on. If I take your work and transform it, I no longer need your permission to use it. It's the fair use doctrine.
This guy is doing some incredible mental gymnastics trying to convince himself it's not plagiarism lmfao
Yeah but there also goes video as a record keeping medium as well. As soon we wont be able to determine if what we are seeing is real or not.. so thats not terrifying at all.
I am however extremely excited to see what can be done. New art tools, new media.. i mean just look at the progress in 100 years!
Both new horrors and delights await, of that we can be sure
You can't tell what is real or not now. Have you forgotten 2020? Have you forgotten the last 8 years of lies and propaganda? The only way to know what's real, now or in the future, is research, and people don't want to do it now anymore than they will in the future. It's not the medium that is the problem, it's the people.
artless perspective
Me wanting to completely create an entire movie from scratch completely by myself is artless? I understand where youre coming from but I would have to disagree. It just makes these things more accessible to everyone. Intuitive creation is the future imo
@@kevinwatsonwkw you're not creating an entire movie 'from scratch' or by yourself. you're offloading the writing, directing, and cinematography to a computer, which is itself just pulling tropes and patterns from other people's art. i'm not an anti-AI luddite, but in the workflow you're describing you didn't have any original ideas or creativity, you just asked a robot to pump out some sludge content. why did you want to become an artist?
@@samgorman2258 Every "Artist", "pulls tropes and patterns" form other people's art, you just call it "inspiration". You're just mad more people will have access to your lil "elite" club. The time of, "you're not buying the art, you're buying the artist", is over. As an "Artist", how do you feel about Hunter Biden's art selling for hundreds of thousands of dollars? Is he a better Artist than you?
Spot on.
life was so much better without ai, i literally can't stop thinking about it everyday the stress gets worse. i think i will legit prefer world war 3 than what's happening.
'like always, the talent will rise to the top.' that's never been true, and it won't be made true by the advent of AI. the idea that the algorithms and forces of capital that help determine what gets created and funded are based purely on talent/merit is completely laughable. and even if we allow that meritocracy will exist in AI video generation, what criteria are being used to determine 'talent'? who gets to determine that? even if we put aside all of the questions as to whether AI art should be considered equivalent to human art (it shouldn't), this perspective is just another permutation of free market thinking. so profoundly naïve.
hmm
Hmmmmmmmm
Boohoo, talentless actors whom don't help the world get replaced by AI, big loss. Bring on the future!!
In a utopian future, AI is supposed to diminish the boring labour jobs instead of the creative labour that is like, actually fun for humans. Instead, AI is treated like a wonder machine for 'art' to make a quick buck with it, instead of providing anything useful for humanity.
@@schwubbel0359 In your Utopian Future, what do you do with the ones who aren't creative?
this is the dumbest thing i have ever heard
when something is bad and in this instance Ai art it is freaking horrible.
Thanks for the comment
@@kevinwatsonwkw your welcome 👍
😮 I bet there are monkeys l when people started drawing😮 a drawn art is terrible you'll destroy the traditions of oral tradition😮 you people are ridiculous you cling to the past😮
that shit sucks, cope harder dude
I’m trying
😮 words reflect what they mean it sounds like you're coping hard😮 unable to come to terms with the Syfy reality we now live in😮