🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢 he isnt the founder of the crips , the founder is named Raymond Washington and tookie williams was the leader of the westside crips he wasnt the co -founder , Raymond Washington had a friend who was murdered at 19 who was the cO founder
They dead tho I guess y can say he the only one that can speak for that generation unless u can. But Raymond and tookie gone they can’t tell the story so it’s up to him
There was more founders than tookie and Washington they just the most famous names it was a group of them . Relax you probably not even old enough to know wtf they talking about
He was one of the founders of the the Original Westside Gangsters, which became the Original Gangster Crips, and eventually became the 8-Trey Gangsta Crips.
You don't know what your talking about 43GC was the first original MovinG Gangsta crips but 83 was the bigger set on the westside but 43GC was the first Gangsta crips
@pomegranate8 bro your wrong 43gc was first Gangsta crips were do you think there slang moving came from 43 homie. 83 vs 60 beef just divided the GC and Nhc cars in LA. Next thing the 83 was Westside Crips the Hoovas was just Manchester Park Boys they wasn't crips yet until the Westside Crips asked them too join the movement then they become Hoova Crips. San Andrew Park is where the Westside Crips meetings was at with Tookie and Bacot. Harlem Godfathers was part of the Westside Crips R.I.P. OOOG Barefoot Pookie. 43gc was started already on the east side when 83 was just Westside Crips. 43gc was the first set to bang there street number in LA homie they said moving 83 took that saying from 43gc homie
@@tishawnpenn6873, you must not be from L.A., Original Gangster Crips is way older, it was just a name that Melvin came up with. They were no Moving Sets yet.
@lakanron640 no u can't be from LA dummy 83gc got moving from 43gc bro . 83s are more bigger set so everybody think they started moving no they didn't 43GC started bro. Go asked any real GC ×3 that you'll find out the truth. Don't forget cripping started on the east side remember that
Yea Trap I thought differently of u but for u to sit down wit our OGs means a lot!!!You took the time out to do this!!!Now this is ur lane I’m loving this real rap💪🏾💯
Melvin is an OG Crip, not a Founder of the Crips, but a Founder of the Original Gangster Crips aka 8-Tray Gangsters. The Crips started on the Eastside on 1969. Came to the Westside in 1971, where Melvin is From. Melvin was born in 1957. 4 Years under Raymond Washington, who was born in 1953.
He’s not a founder of the Crips. There’s only about 9 guys who can actually claim that title, since they were there on day one when Raymond created CRIPS. And they are all East Siders.
You can’t say “we only killed because we were protected ourselves this generation is different “ then say “stepping on shoes can get you killed “ if somebody stepped on your shoes shouldn’t deserve somebody to get killed especially if they say “sorry” or “my bad” 17:58
That's American thinking to shame him for that but to brag about the miserable guy who owes on his mortgage and is debt his girl is cheating and the government taking all his money through taxes I knock no man for how he lives
What's he supposed to do, put her on an iceberg and let her float out to sea? Go look up what assisted living facilities charge on a monthly basis, you need to be super rich to put your older parents into one of those, and this is L.A.
Why isn't the BFG included? BGF is older than the Bloods, Crips & Hoover Criminals, then again, BGF (Jaama), much like the Folks Nation (GDs, BDs, etc) and Peoples Nation (VLs, BPS, LKs, etc) are organizations, not gangs. And yes there are GDs in California.
People want to trash ross saying he’s not talking to the founder of the Crips maybe it’s distasteful to say that he’s the founder of the Crips on the thumbnail but it sure did get our attention. Keep it pushing Ross love the content. You don’t see too many other content creators, interviewing real street legends without putting their opinion on it. How many other people are touching street topics with this kind of depth.
Actually The crips fought with pirus and brims, Denver lanes back then , the bloods didn't come until later which are a combination of gangs who came together
@TrapLoreRoss just out of curiosity have you asked for any interviews with any bloods? I see alot of crip which i dont mind id rather crip than bloods anyday
Interesting. What new information and what new focus point is being offered by this version replayed? And why? I legit made it to 13:21 mark of the content. #SoMuchOtherShitIcouldHaveDone
Title should be, One Of The Founders Of The 8 Trey Gangster Crips..I bet Melvin Farmer saw this and said, WHY THE HELL HE CALLED ME THE FOUNDER OF THE CRIPS?!!!!!!!!
seems like he’s hating on every era, except for his.. he’s too jaded, so his recollection might not be the factual story, he also said he was born in 1957 and that he marched directly by Martin Luther King’s side, MLK died in 1968, so that would make him 10 or 11
Lets just set the record straight. Melvin is a cofounder of ETG not a founder of the original Crip gang founded by Raymond Washington. Full respect to OOG Melvin Farmer🫡
Raymond Washington was and always be the founder and godfather of the Crips, PERIOD Melvin Farmer aka Skull was a original Westside Crip BUT he didn't start the Crips, he created the term Gangster Crips and was one of the founders of the Eight Tray Gangster Crips (83GC=ETGC)
He isn’t even the founder or leader of the set he’s in. But of course a pos like this dude would title the video like this because he either is that ignorant to the “content” he’s covering or just doing this for engagements.
You should change this title homie... to something like "Meeting OG of The Crips: Melvin Farmer" or something like it. Your title breaks protocol and is not a good look on you, Melvin or Washington. Even Melvin himself tells you in the video titled he was a member in the founding Crips and a Co-Founder of the 8Treys (ETG): "Melvin Farmer on How Tookie Williams & Raymond Washington Formed the Crips (Part 1)" by djvlad. Crips started around 1969 in the east, then spread west around 1971 (thats when it reached Melvin & Tookie's area). My Father was homies w/Tookie.
Trap Lore is really doing that footwork I respect it, however the history of this is a super deep rabbit hole & goes back over 50 years. I don’t have anything bad to say about Melvin Farmer but I always thought the founders weren’t around anymore, some say he’s the founder of a crip set out of LA but who knows, most of these dudes just aren’t around to speak on it.
Thank you Ross for providing proof to those abroad that you are not a worthy representative of anything to do with our culture!! You SHOULD know better than to slap a ridiculous reach of title like this on your video !
Obviously doesnt matter because he was quoting the name of a gang... but I wonder if TLR knows Spook Gang's name is a pretty derogatory. I feel like he would have tried to censor himself if he knew it was offensive, not that I think he should have or is obligated to. At the end of the day he's reporting and that was the name of the gang; but y'all know how youtubers get with censorship due to YT's community guidelines. These youtubers aren't trying to have their videos demonetized at the end of the day, and most of the time a good number of them take censorship pretty serious. For example using words like "grape" "SA" instead of saying the word even if its from a quote of legit new report. MOst likely again due to not wanting to lose money, but I also assume so they don't offend/trigger anyone, ultimately maybe starting their cancellation. Creators are now hyper-aware
He is one of the founders of 8-Trey gangsta crip
He ain’t the founder on the crips he losing his mind and cuz thirsty
@@irocloc354u dyslexic?
Fool RayWash is the founder of the East side Cribs, Tookie and then pushed the gang everywhere else, you better ax somebody….. And Rayford started etg
@ man you ain’t got a dam clue on what you talking about. Somebody made that believe u on TH-cam
@@QuickHittinEmyou can't forget about "Frog" as well homie
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢 he isnt the founder of the crips , the founder is named Raymond Washington and tookie williams was the leader of the westside crips he wasnt the co -founder , Raymond Washington had a friend who was murdered at 19 who was the cO founder
They dead tho I guess y can say he the only one that can speak for that generation unless u can. But Raymond and tookie gone they can’t tell the story so it’s up to him
There was more founders than tookie and Washington they just the most famous names it was a group of them . Relax you probably not even old enough to know wtf they talking about
He founded OGC. That's an original Crip set.
Technically tookie didn't create the crips he made it bigger Melvin didn't start the crips thou
Still it doesnt make him a founder of the Crips though@@andreweston233
He was one of the founders of the the Original Westside Gangsters, which became the Original Gangster Crips, and eventually became the 8-Trey Gangsta Crips.
@@lakanron640 he need to sit his old ass down he miccey ass hell and shut that evil spill up
You don't know what your talking about 43GC was the first original MovinG Gangsta crips but 83 was the bigger set on the westside but 43GC was the first Gangsta crips
@pomegranate8 bro your wrong 43gc was first Gangsta crips were do you think there slang moving came from 43 homie. 83 vs 60 beef just divided the GC and Nhc cars in LA. Next thing the 83 was Westside Crips the Hoovas was just Manchester Park Boys they wasn't crips yet until the Westside Crips asked them too join the movement then they become Hoova Crips. San Andrew Park is where the Westside Crips meetings was at with Tookie and Bacot. Harlem Godfathers was part of the Westside Crips R.I.P. OOOG Barefoot Pookie. 43gc was started already on the east side when 83 was just Westside Crips. 43gc was the first set to bang there street number in LA homie they said moving 83 took that saying from 43gc homie
@@tishawnpenn6873, you must not be from L.A., Original Gangster Crips is way older, it was just a name that Melvin came up with. They were no Moving Sets yet.
@lakanron640 no u can't be from LA dummy 83gc got moving from 43gc bro . 83s are more bigger set so everybody think they started moving no they didn't 43GC started bro. Go asked any real GC ×3 that you'll find out the truth. Don't forget cripping started on the east side remember that
Gang life became shameful when it changed from protecting the community to terrorizing the community
You mean when it went from uplifting your community to only making money off your community
@ no I meant what I said
Been terrorizing the community since the beginning. Stop.
@ gangs were originally a way to protect poor communities from violent police tactics. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about
It's a street gang they do street stuff to sustain
Yea Trap I thought differently of u but for u to sit down wit our OGs means a lot!!!You took the time out to do this!!!Now this is ur lane I’m loving this real rap💪🏾💯
Don't co sign this punk. He need to report his country good and bad skeletons.
Title is misleading.
All he do is talk about evil shit from back n the day move on it’s over bro
That’s the point. Every click is money. 70% of the people clicked this to say that 😂
Clickbait is rampid on these TH-cam streets 😂
@jbofficial5190 facts! Can't knock it tho if it's working. If I could make an extra couple grand this month I'd title it anything 😂 😂 😂
He's not a founder. He's a founder of the Etgs Raymond Washington is the founder of all crips put respect on RW name
What about tookie he only founder of the eastside crips?
@@stretchdot8198 No he leader of WESTSIDE
The Eastside
Fr tookie was a big character but without Raymond there would be no crip
Straight upk
Honestly, this was a lot better than I expected. I've watched a lot of OG Skull's interviews. This is among the most thorough and historical.
Melvin is an OG Crip, not a Founder of the Crips, but a Founder of the Original Gangster Crips aka 8-Tray Gangsters.
The Crips started on the Eastside on 1969. Came to the Westside in 1971, where Melvin is From.
Melvin was born in 1957. 4 Years under Raymond Washington, who was born in 1953.
raymond washington is the founder melvin is just one of the originals
Thank you
♿️ RAYMOND WASHINGTON ♿️
He’s not a founder of the Crips. There’s only about 9 guys who can actually claim that title, since they were there on day one when Raymond created CRIPS. And they are all East Siders.
Truth. They were all Eastsiders, but it was way less than 9 individuals.
"Been arrested 60x. And on none of them police reports was I a victim or a witness" 💯😈
Funny i read it was Tookie and a gentleman named Raymond Washington
It's jus Raymond. Tookie got recruited by Raymond Washington and Tookie started Westside Crips. Raymond is the father of all crips
they are all founding and original members
@@NeptunesPage crip founded by Raymond in 69 Tookie didn't become a crip until 71.
@@bcbscrooge1431same a Larry hover for the founder of the GDs
Raymond Washington Founded Crips
Gotta love Melvin Farmer’s interviews, he has sooo much history
You got more graduation pics than mugshots…you ain’t paid your dues yet!!!
This OG is speaking so many gems in this one! 💙🏆
My hat is off Melvin Farmer learned a lesson. Wishing you the best brother
This guy did not found the Crips bro. With your extensive research on other vids, stating that is lazy bro
Im sure TLR knows he isn’t the founder but it’s just how the internet works nowadays..
It’s called “Clickbait” if I’m correct 😂
he didnt found the crips but he founded the 83 gangster crips
@@WORLDWIDESOCAL9 he should be specific then!
@@dargcorleone_bitesit wouldn’t be clicked then!
Okay he didn’t start the crips 😂
As a person who grew up in LA during the early 80’s into the 90’s, I really appreciated these 3 interviews
Nothing but big respect to Melvin, Farmer and trap Lore Ross S/0 TO ALL THE UK 🇬🇧
You can’t say “we only killed because we were protected ourselves this generation is different “ then say “stepping on shoes can get you killed “ if somebody stepped on your shoes shouldn’t deserve somebody to get killed especially if they say “sorry” or “my bad” 17:58
Bruh he don't mean that literally. That argument that lead to a fight, can lead to you being shot or someone related.
They killed period protecting or not there was retaliation for all of it nobody said well it's OK you shit my friend
And when somebody kills they do it on purpose which is the crazy part he's lowkey tweaking for that
@@nawfslim No he's not, he's saying they did it for a reason, now of days they do it just because
17 different high schools is wild. Like his mother I think he really did it. There is a pattern here😂
Cool interview. This title here though mane 😤 🧢 🤦🏿♂️.
This man still lives at home off his momma😂😂😂 let that sink in ladies and gentlemen.
You know he like 70 right his parents not alive goofy
😂😂😂
That's American thinking to shame him for that but to brag about the miserable guy who owes on his mortgage and is debt his girl is cheating and the government taking all his money through taxes I knock no man for how he lives
What's he supposed to do, put her on an iceberg and let her float out to sea? Go look up what assisted living facilities charge on a monthly basis, you need to be super rich to put your older parents into one of those, and this is L.A.
Off his mama? This dude is like 60 years old. Is his mama still living?
Some of the older guys probably went off to Vietnam once the Crips started in 1969.
Criminals don't know that when you know about a crime and don't report it it's called misprison of a felony...
He Definitely an OG
I watched all 3 interviews - TLR is a great interviewer. Asked great questions and follow up questions.
Great interview
Loving the interviews. Keep grinding TLR.
He’s one of the founders of the 83GC for those saying he not a founder yall needa do ya re search
This was a good interview
6:10 Was waiting for host to say " You have a fly on your arm"
1:06:55 facts “if you can’t feed them, I doubt it you can lead them”
He's a co-founder of the 🎱3️⃣GC.
Why isn't the BFG included? BGF is older than the Bloods, Crips & Hoover Criminals, then again, BGF (Jaama), much like the Folks Nation (GDs, BDs, etc) and Peoples Nation (VLs, BPS, LKs, etc) are organizations, not gangs.
And yes there are GDs in California.
Your correct ✡️
“You got more graduation pictures than mugshots” is a different level is gangsta
Our Founder and Godfather of The Crips is Raymond Lee Washington Eastside Crips gang Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!!! Blue came from Buddha 💙🩵🤍♿️Cu💤
People want to trash ross saying he’s not talking to the founder of the Crips maybe it’s distasteful to say that he’s the founder of the Crips on the thumbnail but it sure did get our attention. Keep it pushing Ross love the content. You don’t see too many other content creators, interviewing real street legends without putting their opinion on it. How many other people are touching street topics with this kind of depth.
He is not the founder of Crips! He is the founder of 83 Crip if I'm not mistaken.
He is one of the founders of one of the sets of the crips theres a-lot of different sets
Actually The crips fought with pirus and brims, Denver lanes back then , the bloods didn't come until later which are a combination of gangs who came together
Yeah the title could have been more specific. He is one of the founders 3:52
Him titling it the way he did got yall all clicking and commenting. Welcome to the content world sheeple 😂 “hES NOT tHE foUNDER!” 🤦♂️💰💰💰💰
@TrapLoreRoss just out of curiosity have you asked for any interviews with any bloods? I see alot of crip which i dont mind id rather crip than bloods anyday
Isn't The Founder Of Crip, That's The Legendary Raymond Washington With Alliance Tookie Williams.
One of the original westside crips and also one of the 83gc founders
Interesting. What new information and what new focus point is being offered by this version replayed? And why? I legit made it to 13:21 mark of the content. #SoMuchOtherShitIcouldHaveDone
I believe AC Babalouie's interpretation of where the term Crip originated.
Who cares who is the founder? The OG comes from that era and has a great story to tell 🙌
Title should be, One Of The Founders Of The 8 Trey Gangster Crips..I bet Melvin Farmer saw this and said, WHY THE HELL HE CALLED ME THE FOUNDER OF THE CRIPS?!!!!!!!!
This real honor here OG mad respect
#Nola #Chosen #Messiah #ANTICHRIST💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I DIG WHAT BRO SAID, PUT RESPECT ON RAYMOND WASHINGTON NAME.
Is this the crab that stepped on a pirus shoe?
It's crazy how the founder is still alive
I wonder what his thoughts would be of the crips and bloods that were on Habbo Hotel 🤣🤣
he is a founder. founder of the eight tray gangster crips
Melvin is ONE of the founders…not THE founder…..but it’s still much love and respect for the OG.
He must be the 100th founder of the crips then....never heard of heem before.
Raymond Washington and Tookie Williams are founders
seems like he’s hating on every era, except for his.. he’s too jaded, so his recollection might not be the factual story, he also said he was born in 1957 and that he marched directly by Martin Luther King’s side, MLK died in 1968, so that would make him 10 or 11
I don't see it cuzzo he's said all of it is 🐂💩 that only ends in tragedy
Yall both right it's not like the new black panthers for example ain't on bs for example.
TLR think we stupid and playing with our culture yal don’t see that?
@@unklekleanup exactly dis dude ain’t even American and tryna act like he know everything
Maybe change your name to uncle hushup witcho bullshit
Fr why is this point Dexter profiting off gang culture he need to stay in his lane and do computer technology vidz
@@unklekleanup holding pride over this nonsense and saying troglodyte shit like “point Dexter” is why nobody takes Yall seriously.
@@Cracker_Barrel_Kidd_55 😂 I ain’t heard dat shit
At first I thought that was AL Roker.
Raymond Washington is the founder of the Crips...
Lets just set the record straight. Melvin is a cofounder of ETG not a founder of the original Crip gang founded by Raymond Washington. Full respect to OOG Melvin Farmer🫡
All the etgs know him as a founder but it's tookie and Raymond that made them crips
Goat😮💨
Title very misleading. He’s not the founder of the Crips. He’s the Founder of a Crip Set 83GC
co founder
monster kody wrote sidewinder was the founder and asked for permissoon to start the set
40:21 From my understanding it was Puddin from west side Piru that shot Tookie!
Raymond Washington was and always be the founder and godfather of the Crips, PERIOD
Melvin Farmer aka Skull was a original Westside Crip BUT he didn't start the Crips, he created the term Gangster Crips and was one of the founders of the Eight Tray Gangster Crips (83GC=ETGC)
He is not the founder of the Crips but he is the founder of the 8 treys
Real talk tho homie I used to be blood, but I can still call you homey man because we ain’t getting down like that no more and you keepin it real
Bro said "I went to jail and cried all night".. and I was getting out the next day😂
Best interview VLAD ask to many questions like police Trap Lore A better interviewer
U should make a Interview with the Co Founder of the Gds Ike Taylor next.
don dirky has a great interview with vlad i think
@jimmyjump8335 don durk is a known liar he is not reliable at all
HE'S AN OG FROM ERA...YET THERE'S MANY FROM THAT ERA AND CUT FROM THAT SAME CLOTH....MAC THOMAS...BIG GEMEL
So as far as I can tell, this man was at least there in the beginning? I’m kinda confused, I think.
He was there in the Beginning, He's one of the Founders of the 83 Gangster Crips, Big Sidewinder is / was the other Founder..
He is the one who started 8trey not the crips yall gotta get it right
He isn’t even the founder or leader of the set he’s in. But of course a pos like this dude would title the video like this because he either is that ignorant to the “content” he’s covering or just doing this for engagements.
Lil James still living sir!!!!
LA Gangs 101 History class.
You should change this title homie... to something like "Meeting OG of The Crips: Melvin Farmer" or something like it. Your title breaks protocol and is not a good look on you, Melvin or Washington. Even Melvin himself tells you in the video titled he was a member in the founding Crips and a Co-Founder of the 8Treys (ETG):
"Melvin Farmer on How Tookie Williams & Raymond Washington Formed the Crips (Part 1)" by djvlad. Crips started around 1969 in the east, then spread west around 1971 (thats when it reached Melvin & Tookie's area).
My Father was homies w/Tookie.
Trap Lore is really doing that footwork I respect it, however the history of this is a super deep rabbit hole & goes back over 50 years. I don’t have anything bad to say about Melvin Farmer but I always thought the founders weren’t around anymore, some say he’s the founder of a crip set out of LA but who knows, most of these dudes just aren’t around to speak on it.
Raymond Washington is the founder
Click bait will never make your platform great.
Thank you Ross for providing proof to those abroad that you are not a worthy representative of anything to do with our culture!!
You SHOULD know better than to slap a ridiculous reach of title like this on your video !
YALLS TITLE IS FULL OF LIES.
SKULL IS NOT THE FOUNDER!!!!
Dang heart felt on the real
That’s crazy my big homie said murder was only 7 yrs back n the day smh
He wasn't the founder of the crips they're both dead but he's close enough since they're gone
Wasent it tookie williams
Obviously doesnt matter because he was quoting the name of a gang... but I wonder if TLR knows Spook Gang's name is a pretty derogatory. I feel like he would have tried to censor himself if he knew it was offensive, not that I think he should have or is obligated to. At the end of the day he's reporting and that was the name of the gang; but y'all know how youtubers get with censorship due to YT's community guidelines. These youtubers aren't trying to have their videos demonetized at the end of the day, and most of the time a good number of them take censorship pretty serious. For example using words like "grape" "SA" instead of saying the word even if its from a quote of legit new report. MOst likely again due to not wanting to lose money, but I also assume so they don't offend/trigger anyone, ultimately maybe starting their cancellation. Creators are now hyper-aware
Killed over a perm??? “Pimpin mistaken for Crippin” … well damn!
Stg none of y'all read a single comment before posting your own huh? 😂
Wtf are their subtitles
A simple Wikipedia search will refute the title’s misinformation.
But, is it mis-information, or is it dis-information?
yall beat me to the punch the founder is gone
I thought that Stanley Tookie Williams was the founder of the Crips ?
Nope. Tookie is one of the early organizers of the Westside Crips which formed about 2 years after the Original Crips.
Did he say he had Tina turner and ray charles cripping 😂