JOHN JOHN CONFRONTS JAYBLAC ABOUT WOTY COTY POLITICS AS USUAL
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JJDD was 100% right. What’s the point of the fan vote if our pick was #3….. It’s like the panel overturned what the fans thought. At the end of the day. Our vote means nothing, why donate?
How about COTY come up with the 10k and pick their winner. Leave the fan vote alone.
That’s a fact
To raise money and you get some say but not all cause otherwise it’ll be a popularity contest‼️
@@mizz308it already is
Not tru
@@Handle9because Bigg K and Ms.Hustle are more popular than Twork and Jaz. Right
I’m simple. I see a Jayblac video I press like.
JBlac the longtime battle rap fans appreciate what you do for the battlerap culture⭐️ SALUTE!
"if they have their own world they can't be slighted"
"We need more women leagues"
That's insane lmao
I agree with JJ 100%. The answer to this problem is simple:
Coty-men only
Woty-women only
Broty- co-ed(Battle Rapper Of the Year)
Women will never win battle rapper of the year.
The reason is they're not good enough. But they will be turned into some kind of excuse to give it to them. Or give them some type of participation trophy. Becauer telling the obvious truth is blasphemous when it comes to simps and females.
Why. There has never been a year where a women would have won. Just the same thing now with extra steps.
@danieljenkins7951 exactly. There has never been a year because there was never a year when a woman was good enough to win it. This is about talent. Not gender.
They don't make any other awards for all the dudes who will never win it because they aren't talented enough.
Yall kill me wanting to exalt women as superheroes and pamper them like babies at the same time. If they aren't good enough, they sit with all the male rappers who aren't. These participation trophies and recognition are just a way of yall running from obvious truths.
@@danieljenkins7951yeah but they still have a chance at winning to awards
A woman can be a champion, that’s why there should be a man of the year award like there is a woman of the year. The MOTY and WOTY should battle to be COTY.
Appreciate the convo…. Much respect
i like when jjdd on here, the talks be good
Majority people who complain won’t even donate just keep that in mind
Can’t wait for this battle 🔥🔥🔥 Jagged Jay vs JJDD will be legendary
Basically, the awards were all given out by the fans, and they had a 20% stake in picking the WOTY. The Panel had an 80% stake of choosing and because they all Unanimously picked Hustle, it meant Hustle had 80% which is greater thanJazz's 20v% (assuming Jazz had 100% of the fan vote which I don't think is the case).
Mickey Factz said it best. If the ppl on the panel aren't rappers then doesn't that make them fans as well?? So what's the difference between fan votes and panel votes??
The Champion fan vote could simply refer to fans of champions that have voted. The panel might be fans of battle rap but they are working on that Champion panel. The difference is the due diligence they have to put in and the scrutiny they’re under, as opposed to say me just putting in $2 and an anonymous survey 🤷🏾♂️
@@sergiodbdeither way they’re still fans
@@LegitSosa everyone involved is a fan… otherwise why do it?
But i thought it was an actual question about the difference in the “fan vote” and the panel vote. My bad 😅
@Vadafly is on T.V. he should be giving awards too
100% agree there are lots of other battle rap media outlets that can create awards. It helps the community and improves the bloggers brand. It could promote matchups too with winners of different awards facing off maybe for unified titles/prize fight situation.
@vadafly you're included and must respond.
SHAKE MY HAND🤝🏾 🥃
I swear jay blac has tourette syndrome they way he be randomly yelling🤣🤣
CONGRATs ON THE 8YRs.... ,THIS iS AMAZING 4THE CULTURE..!!
The Fans like me donated we need more than 20 percent without the money ain’t no WOTY
Then it's a popularity contest
@@Jayblac1615 then how Bigg k win
@@madhands9887 because he is crazy good.
I don’t think it should be 3 pots. Raise money for MOTY and WOTY then create an event where they battle for the COTY belt. They still win their money, the winner gets a belt, and they get more money from getting booked at the event plus a fire card that comes with it. There you have it!
Congrats to BBL Hustle ghostwriters out here killing the game
Smh crazy
YEARETH BY YEARETH
Shake my hand!
Why would other platforms do their own awards if the coty panel is full of people from other platforms who aren’t on day to day champion episodes
If there was ever a female COTY the WOTY should just go to the rest of the women that battle and exclude the COTY that year
17:05 - also John John, if the panel had to debate the subcategories, the show would be 14 hours long 😅
7:10 😂😂 John John, that wasn’t even too much. He barely turnt up at all 😅
Cheesesteak no cheese -johnjohn 2024
Yo Blac ATP do Your process with Your criteria and put out Your winner and tell everybody else to STFU! Nobody will ever agree 100% The only thing we know that is 100% going to happen is.......NICCAS GONE COMPLAIN ERRRTIME!! SALUTE TO WHAT YOU DO BRO 💯💯💯 It takes different type of dude to get constantly 💩💩'd on for trying to help uplift the culture.
Basically no man can win twice but women can
I watch this whole thing and still, I feel like how can one lead the league in points, assists and rebounds and you give the MVP to someone else
I feel like this is the year where people are finally discovering what the rules are lmao. Hopefully they don't all forget by next year (they will).
BLAC, PLEASE do a breakdown for the J. Cole track feat Daylyt!
The face off we been waiting for
5:17 - This All went left when the main point is lost in translation - BATTLE RAP IS A SPORT OF THE MINDS NOT ANATOMY. This topic is trivial as best.
There is a Big E Weird Al Yankabitch, Tankabitch and lastly Bankabitch.
🎤📽🎤📸
10:39 Thor is outside is funny
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I definitely agree with JJDD with this one 💯
Right they act like the fans don’t matter !
Like that mean all them caffeine battles don’t matter cause the fans voted!!
How is jaz not WOTY!! Cause she had debatable battles!
You can’t say fan votes then separate the fans !
KEEP THE FAN VOTE SECRET UNTIL AFTER THE PANEL MAKE THEIR DECISIONS. This would likely lead to the panel voting in a way that naturally leaves it in the hands of the fans, and would certainly prevent any unconscious bias.
When it comes to battle rap I come to jay blac.. Whn I want the other stuff I go to angry fan
Man fans shouldn’t even vote at this point they felt bad for hustle and how is coffee over jaz when twork bodied her and jaz had a debatable wit twork
John John is right
hustle wins, male battle rap wins. iykyk
GHOST WRITERS SUMTHIN WE GOTTA DEAL WITH 🗣️
What happened to this battle?
They gonna say stop talking across the table J Blac, Easy.... Big Easy......They are gonna think you are trying to Help O'fficial.....Compromised...♣️♣️♣️♣️😂
If there is an effective separation of the genders, then that would nullify intergender battles/themed cards. We have seen battles intergender battles be used in battlers annual resume, even sometimes helping them in their favorability. But if separated, those battles will pretty much be exhibitions with no weight on them.
Champion of the Year is genderless because it is trying to be equitable in order to boost the profile of women who are doing great work in the culture, but do not have the viewership of the mostly male audience. Of course, someone will argue that is what WOTY is for, however, if women strictly battled on women led platforms, and only battled other women, there would almost no money to make it lucrative or grow, bc mostly male audiences do not watch all of the women battles that happen in a year.
JJDD simply saying that women should start their own league, sounds great in the abstract, but realistically, I would love to see how that would be implemented. Champion!
Fan vote should be no less than 35%
They had a conversation after this, I hope, because JJDD had a few valid points. I get Jay blacks hidden gems to though and he is right that other ppl should be doing awards for their battlers but....im with JJDD
You should asl rap battle leagues to contribute to the POT also start the COTY/WOTY donations all year.
I strongly disagree with JJDD. COTY is a "pound for pound" ranking across all demographics, age, gender, race, style, home town, league, etc. WOTY highlights the gender demographic, and just so happens to be produced by JayBlac and co. JJDD should create his own awards, best puncher, best angler, best male battler, etc. if he feels that strongly.
First of all S/O to Kelz. First female running both men and female league OSBL. KMM
Use ya 🧠
The awards 🏆 are strictly for the FAN too vote on.
The WOTY lineup/ranking is BOTH fans AND panel , with the Panel having majority weight.
So even with your favorite winning with the fans.. if he/she leaves the door open enough with Other fans and the Panel they can lose out on the #1 spot. Look at Heisman Voting. EVERYBODY gets a percentage but its a TOTALS game.
I would guess that the fan vote for Jaz wasn’t unanimous either. It’s not that hard to understand and 7 years in??
We gotta do better 😅
Who complains more than Jon Jon in battle rap? I’ll wait
I don't think the fans should decide who coty or woty is, here's why: A lot of fans don't have the URL app, which means that many of them don't have access to some battlers who are going to be among the top of those list. Example: most and many of Tay Roc, Twork, & Chef Trez battles aren't accessible 2 a lot of fans, which is one reason why Bigg K may have had an advantage when it came to the fan vote.(If i'm not mistaken, all of Bigg K's battles were accessible on youtube in 2023) Their peers(battle rappers, league owners, and Battle rap media) should decide who wins those awards.
I don't give a f who donated the most. My money is my money. If all money isn't appreciated then just let those high donors donate.
JBLAC SHOULD TAKE NOTEs FROM JJDD ,EVERYTHING IS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE!! RESEPECTCULLY
What notes should I take?
What’s your P.O. Box blac ?
JAZ got robbed ?
The biggest issue for me is how is Jaz higher on coty than her opposition for woty. If she is above on coty she should’ve won woty. Plus no shows and chokes don’t matter ? I agree with John John just separate the men and the woman and it’ll fix a lot of the discrepancies.
You watched that Chris unbias blog?🥱😴
I would say have the fan vote account for 30-40%
they y’all will say it’s popularity contest 🤷🏾♂️
JAY BLACK OUT HERE SIMPING SO WOMEN GET 2 CATEGORIES BUT MEN GET NONE LMFAO
Over used word that doesn’t apply. Grow up 🙄
@@Lenasevilla-yb4ei ITS NOT OVER USED IF IT FACTS LMFAO. GROWN MEN SIMPING IS DISGUSTING.
@@tonyrivera3186 grown men crying on the internet is even more embarrassing. Grow up this is entertainment and it doesn’t effect your real life at all
@@Lenasevilla-yb4ei IMAGINE A GROWN MAN SIMPING SO A WOMAN CAN FEEL GOOD ABOUT HERSELF LMFAO. THATS SIMPING AND IT DOES AFFECT REAL MEN. THANKS TO SIMPS WOMEN LIVE IN EASY MODE LOL. ONLY A SIMP AND A WOMAN WOULD BE OK AND SAY WHAT YOU SAID LOL
It should be Champion presents : MOTY & WOTY. Would be the easiest way to stop all the back and forth nonsense. The Champions of the year
JBLAC I AM READY ,WE DO NEED 2DO MORE.......IF U KNEW BETTER ,U"DO BETTER..!!!!
And don’t hustle got more URL BATTLES then jaz so don’t give me that popularity bullshit!
They cheated JAZ
Now let that be geechi gotti
How many battles did you have Jaz winning/losing in 2023?
List them 🤔
They never actually break it down lol
@@TheANRShownone see you sound like a hater she beat all here opponents bigg k twerk rum nitty clips when does ghost writer overshadow jaz
@@Jayblac1615 lol 😂 you still gone get this work (lux voice)
@@TheANRShow Brody she battle NBA PLAYERS!!!
But I fuck wit you Jayblac lol 😂 BUT YOU GONE GET THIS WORK
JJDD been doing this crying about the champions process for years. Just 2 legitimate questions
1.) is he willing to watch most of battle rap for a year and give knowledgeable insight on the panel without bias ?
2.) Does he donate and if so, is it even a decent amount ?
If no to any of those questions, dawg need to just sit back and be quiet.
We need COTY to only be men tbh JJDD is right
i disagree about not having the women in the coty...if they are qualified for coty as well then so be it, that just means they've put in that much work to outshine alot of the men.
I used to be with it but it's dumb now. The woman that gets the highest rank in COTY should not lose to anyone below them in WOTY.
@@KaiStephens oh yeah i 100% agree with that as well
Man yall don’t kno what fans know
The solution is plan and simple. Call big k , call ms hustle and snatch their belts from them and give it jaz. She deserved it.
Jay u did Jaz dirty why
Jaz is COTY AND WOTY.
Shake my hand sir🫲🏾
Ion think fans should have a say so in a COTY or WOTY nor the other accolades bc the favoritism is crazy … y’all forgot when Zaza pachulia was gonna be the starting center in the ASG for the west bc so many warrior fans? 😂 my point is just bc they you’re favorite law should be in order to make the reasonable decision
Maybe let battle rappers vote and leave the judges out of this, I mean if THE FANS voted for Jaz then that's that in my opinion. So to make it more credible let battle rappers make the votes next time, it will mean more coming from your fellow battlers.
Hands down?
Jay blac yall robbed jaz twice we cant trust yall
How do a person who don’t write her on bars and was proven that she didn’t win at anything
Not true
Fans WOTY, performance, and round of the year. Also, finished as the highest woman on COTY list. Took 3rd on WOTY…makes zero sense
I don’t care that Hustle won she deserves it it’s just Jaz being 3rd let’s you know there’s some type of flaw in the system
Compare the years between the 3 combatants and add in who you felt won each battle
SOME PEOPLE DONATED EVERYTHING THEY HAD WITH THE $5 SO DONT DISRESPECT THE DONORS JUST BECAUSE YA DONT GOT IT TOGETHER
If that’s all you had then you gotta get your priorities in order 😂😂😂
YOU CAN LEAVE WOTY AS IT IS AND CHANGE COTY TO MOTY. PROBLEM SOLVED NOT CASHAPP ME 5 DOLLARS JAY😂
I have always been a true supporter of Jblac from day 1 honestly until he done got by UR L or them compromised similar kind folks.
I always blame him for Redda wife n all them loud asss extra ladies on the culture.
They got it wrong both times this year. Just come out and say ya'll made a mistake.
No mistakes were made tho 🤷🏾♂
@@Jayblac1615 anybody else beat twork, nitty and big k in the same year? Anybody else beat nitty and twork in the same year? I wonder if you can find anybody.
JJDD is just complaining. Stawp
Ayee Black is it possible to get some of those champion covers!!?? I’m tryna post them in the crib lmk!!
Or why can’t women who are involved in coty can’t be in woty.
y'all making this more difficult then it needs to be lol
@@Jayblac1615 no i think it’s fine how it is. It was just a suggestion if there were to be a change.
im like 15 minutes in and i cant finish this video lol "she won performance of the year, round of the year, and battle of the year, but didnt win woty" ok so did all the women have ONE battle and Jaz won all those accolades?? or were there multiple battles between them and if we're going on a single battle basis Jaz won those accolades? if Hustle has x amount of battles and won most or all of them, but Jaz had y amount of battles and maybe won less than half, but in the battles she won she deserved the previous accolades, Jaz automatically deserves WOTY because basically she had more battles? no, that sounds stupid as shit. same with him trying to argue that women should be discluded from COTY because they have WOTY lol.
john john constantly reminds me of someone who thinks he's smart but when you listen to them speak, it just sounds stupid as fuck.
Why do rappers come here to make a point without 100 percent knowing the system. It’s a waste to even have points.
Even less sense that a woman ranks higher in COTY but lower in WOTY, John John spitting… politics as usual 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Facts. Everyone should have the same opinion. Everything should be automatic, it don't matter if it's different people and a different room lol
@@Jayblac1615 under the champion umbrella, doesn’t make sense. Like the NBA giving someone MVP but he didn’t make the all star the team 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@AliFrankTheTank Oh it makes perfect sense. In the words of tai tai, y'all just don't it to make sense. I't real simple 6 other people thought differently.
The women need COTY. Its a good look that by net vakue uplifts the entire culture and shines a spotlight on women. The men by default have benefitted by looks in battle rap since day 0. Johnathan put up 6 racks and host your own MOTY 😂
Uplifts the entire culture? Female battle rap can't even uplift female battle rap. The hell are you watching?
Yall problem is you're more comfortable acting like the fantasies in your heads are more realistic than undeniable reality.
The debate about WOTY was literally more exciting than female battlerap all year. The fact that how much they choke took up 1/3 of the debate speaks to that.
@@InnocentUntil718 if we talked about male battlers from last year, 1/3 of the discussion would be spent talking about choking and no shows. What's really your point? Lol
@BrklynBread and the women still suck more. I guaranteee you every uear in battlerap male battles were the best battles if the year overall.
That's yall issue. You think pointing to men erases female bs. That only works in the minds of weak females and simps.
Take your best 5 women and the best 5 men, and the men rap like they rap against dudes they want to beat, it WILL look like oppression. The only reason women are in this conversation is because of special olympic rules. Not talent. Yall just hate uncomfortable truths.
COTY AND WOTY WERE WRONG FANS PLEASE STOP VOTING AND GIVEN YA BEARD🤦🏾♂️
Blac come on man jaz was WOTY let’s stop it! Jaz vs nitty was better then all them other battles !
Whats up with all the pink and white swastias in the back round? Big fail right there jayblac
I think y'all can separate them and women battling men can go on they're record for woty and not coty only men can be coty respectfully
Respectfully, John john isn't making any sense at all
John John stop, please.🤥
John John a cry baby
No he not, this is what we do. We've been at it for YEARS. you can go to the 2019 episodes and it's more of the same lol
(SIGH!!!)
Is John John dumb?