Update: Ending Twitch Plays Pokemon Showdown early due to lack of interest :( We did reach 1500 Elo in the end though, so good work everyone! Will pivot to focus more on event based ideas with this, like Can Twitch Beat X player or X's Chat vs Y's Chat, etc Feel free to post your ideas and opinions down below. Thanks
Might be interesting to do some custom game formats. 20 chanseys on field vs 20 chanseys on opposite side all at once with them all only knowing metronome and softboiled would surely be a skillful match that chat can solve. Could also have a set team with weird ass moves needed to be used to win escape room style like needing to forests curse to rototiller to then foul play with some sash/sturdy mons, and have us repeat battle over and over until we manage to beat it or hax it.
It was definitely a fun stream. My question is why the megahorn heracross clip didn’t make it in here. At one point we were just spamming megahorn and swept an entire team
The script gives chat only 5 seconds to select an action. There is no way to consider all your options and choose the best one in 5 seconds. It's basically setting chat up to fail.
Another difficulty is the hive mind doesn't get a lot of time to think. When I was on the stream you got about 5-10 seconds per turn to think about the situation, type up your move and press enter. Not a lot of time to think the turn through or convince others to do something other than spam the super effective move.
Smogon has always had a default of elitism, and it's especially bad this generation when council pretty much only listens to OLT players. Suspect test choices, viability, teambuilding trends, et cetera are predominantly based on the experiences of that group, with people who casually ladder being considered unimportant. So "average" here is actually "average for the people who strongly prioritize their showdown stats."
@@skunkapestories4622Heavy on the elitism, it’s one of the biggest downsides of being involved with Pokemon Showdown in general. No chance 1500 is considered an average player, I’d say that’s substantially above average while majority of the real average players usually play around the 1200s
did nobody actually check that this is rands and not ou, rands #1 goes like 2.4k+ since it has considerably more players than ou which needs teambuilding to be done to play. Personal opinion: good players on ladder in rands appear on 2k+ atleast
Crabhammer read in front of a Storm Drain mon? Chat learned it from the best of 'em 🔥🔥🔥 (Tho if you do this again it'd be cool if you made it so both mons' speed tiers are on screen all the time, I play randbats all the time and even then I always need to check them lol)
There was another bug after killing a horoark where after the real mon came out that horo had disguised as, bot tried to use splash with enamorus instead of the move voted on. It was not very effective.
Also at one point we were encored into 1st move, and using 3rd move barely won the vote over first, and I think bot did a random move and switched instead of doing the runner up vote of the encored move. being able to do runner up if winning vote is invalid might be a neat change.
hey freezai, what elos do you think represent different levels of player in randbats? if 1500 is average and 1200 is below average, what would be “noob”, or “bad”, or “good”?
I see that chat has listening to the machinations of the Dome Fossil far too often. In, all seriousness it would nice you could have a bot print the information the random battles plug-in gives in chat or displayed in some way.
It's based on inflated standards from the smogon forums, people who take showdown more seriously. If you're a casual player for whom showdown is an afterthought you're typically excluded from the discussion of skill
Update: Ending Twitch Plays Pokemon Showdown early due to lack of interest :(
We did reach 1500 Elo in the end though, so good work everyone!
Will pivot to focus more on event based ideas with this, like Can Twitch Beat X player or X's Chat vs Y's Chat, etc
Feel free to post your ideas and opinions down below.
Thanks
Might be interesting to do some custom game formats. 20 chanseys on field vs 20 chanseys on opposite side all at once with them all only knowing metronome and softboiled would surely be a skillful match that chat can solve.
Could also have a set team with weird ass moves needed to be used to win escape room style like needing to forests curse to rototiller to then foul play with some sash/sturdy mons, and have us repeat battle over and over until we manage to beat it or hax it.
freezai chat vs jimmothy chat would feed families
:( just saw the video
What do you mean lack of interest? You didn't even leave it up longer than a day. It's the holidays, and lots of people didn't see the video, yet.
shame, it was so much fun!
It was definitely a fun stream. My question is why the megahorn heracross clip didn’t make it in here. At one point we were just spamming megahorn and swept an entire team
They didnt expect crabhammer 1 time in a row
The cute thing about this was essentially Freezai being a teacher and guiding twitch chat into learning better and how to play better
Freezai would be a good dad 😅
Yeah he mostly also trying his best to not backseat and asking us like why will you do now chat?
sigh, i admit, it was me
U monster(idk what u are talking about)
@Crayvanitas threw the game, obviously
@@Crayvanitas But whyyyyy :(
Dio!?
@@dirtyneptunemain917 KONO DIO DA!
That "Twitch" guy seems kinda ass, but has a very unique playing style. I hope he and Freezai do a collab again someday!😊
If 1500 is average I suck alot more than I thought
Sameeee
It really depends on ur definition of average for someone like freezai who's really good 1500 would seem average
Lmao it ain’t.
The script gives chat only 5 seconds to select an action. There is no way to consider all your options and choose the best one in 5 seconds. It's basically setting chat up to fail.
I suppose beacuse of the game timer he cant allow for more time
I was so proud when we used tera fighting on palafin to hit soemthign with neutral stab, i believe it was the first tera for the entire stream
Another difficulty is the hive mind doesn't get a lot of time to think. When I was on the stream you got about 5-10 seconds per turn to think about the situation, type up your move and press enter.
Not a lot of time to think the turn through or convince others to do something other than spam the super effective move.
“Top 500”
“Average player”
Lolwut
Smogon has always had a default of elitism, and it's especially bad this generation when council pretty much only listens to OLT players. Suspect test choices, viability, teambuilding trends, et cetera are predominantly based on the experiences of that group, with people who casually ladder being considered unimportant. So "average" here is actually "average for the people who strongly prioritize their showdown stats."
@@skunkapestories4622Heavy on the elitism, it’s one of the biggest downsides of being involved with Pokemon Showdown in general. No chance 1500 is considered an average player, I’d say that’s substantially above average while majority of the real average players usually play around the 1200s
did nobody actually check that this is rands and not ou, rands #1 goes like 2.4k+ since it has considerably more players than ou which needs teambuilding to be done to play.
Personal opinion: good players on ladder in rands appear on 2k+ atleast
Honestly the hardest part about this was the short duration for some moves to be made
Crabhammer read in front of a Storm Drain mon? Chat learned it from the best of 'em 🔥🔥🔥
(Tho if you do this again it'd be cool if you made it so both mons' speed tiers are on screen all the time, I play randbats all the time and even then I always need to check them lol)
I like how freezai crabhammer gastrodon 5 times and gets triggered when the chat does it
Because if he didnt he would of lost either way..
I think chat should be given a bit more time to think their desicions
One way to improve the experience might be to filter move selections in the chat on the stream layout
Chat has reached 1500 but we're still not very good
randbats tropius has a dragon dance set now? oh shit
People got mad abt subseed being the only set
wisdom of the crowd experiment
I wonder why YOUR CHAT would go for crabhammer with an adaptability Crawdaunt against a storm drain pokemon
That's the most emotion Cyrus has shown from the moment he...
Wait, he didn't cry as a baby???
There was another bug after killing a horoark where after the real mon came out that horo had disguised as, bot tried to use splash with enamorus instead of the move voted on. It was not very effective.
Oh?! That is very weird, i'll have to look into it
@@FreezaiPokemon www.twitch.tv/freezaiyt/clip/SpikyAggressiveEmuMcaT-LqU_F1pDVvy6WHeB
Also at one point we were encored into 1st move, and using 3rd move barely won the vote over first, and I think bot did a random move and switched instead of doing the runner up vote of the encored move. being able to do runner up if winning vote is invalid might be a neat change.
hey freezai, what elos do you think represent different levels of player in randbats? if 1500 is average and 1200 is below average, what would be “noob”, or “bad”, or “good”?
Should have included the clip of chat critting milotic 4 the win
This is an interesting way for me to find out I'm average...
1500 is average? Since when?
... You consider 1500 average
I'm so cooked I've been playing for years now my best is not even 1400
I mean if the top of the ladder is like 2400 and the bottom is 1000 I’d call 1700 average, halfway between them
@@erikcarp9359average isn’t (min+max)/2.
Actually, isn’t the mean ELO a constant? Because total ELO is conserved in each match?
It's average for the people who prioritize the game. If you have an actual life and showdown is an afterthought 1400 is fine
@@skunkapestories4622 no think again I barely play anymore and my avg is like 1700. if it's this low you dont know mons or ur dumb
You need 2 chats for commands and coordination
Twitch chat is cooked 😭😭
revavroom kinda workin it at 4:55
Luck is a skill.
This is awesome
I see that chat has listening to the machinations of the Dome Fossil far too often. In, all seriousness it would nice you could have a bot print the information the random battles plug-in gives in chat or displayed in some way.
9:12 Excellent quote!
great idea!
I think allowing text to speech could be really cool and let better players get their voice heard
>randbats
>fairest
I've seen AI smarter than chat
If 1500 is average and I’m above 2200 I’m above average 🗿
Calling 1500 elo an avg team is pretty funny
It's based on inflated standards from the smogon forums, people who take showdown more seriously. If you're a casual player for whom showdown is an afterthought you're typically excluded from the discussion of skill
Idk bro i think its about right
Not me making a temp account and tryna stream snipe him 😂 (im 1900, unfortunately I failed)
pog
❤
interesting