When people say Lebron is a better all-around player than Jordan, they never mention defense. I don't get how he is a better all-around player when there is no mention of defense. It is just intellectually dishonest at this point. Thank you for always pointing out the things that should be obvious at this point when it comes to the G.O.A.T debate.
That is foolish when Labron is turning the ball over at a much higher rate then MJ. MJ did play point in his early days he avg near 10 assist a game and had less turn overs
No defense, mid range, can't play off the ball. It's so much, the media did a good job hyping LeBron up. But LeBron did do better at winning less with more and putting his teams together.
Stop the madness Jordan is the most complete or all around player ever,the guy could do everything on a basketball court, which he did every game,not just score or take big shots,that's the player i saw in the nba and at north Carolina.
@80sbaby73 How did the media hype LeBron up when he won four titles? The stuff you guys write in here makes zero sense. By the way Kevin Durant put together his own team including James Harden and Kyrie Irving and still couldn't win but everybody seems to love Kevin Durant so they fail to criticize him for doing the exact same things they crucify LeBron for. KD isn't a great defender either so....
Specially when he’s allowed to carry, double dribble, charge, travel…not to mention the “gather-step” bs they allowed cause these so called “better-athletes” can’t do the fundamentals…
LeBron is an average rebounder. It took him 8 more seasons to surpass Jordan in offensive rebounds. He’s an ok passer but a turnover machine. Scoring wise LeBron only has two moves, shooting uncontested threes and bullying to the basket while committing offensive fouls, travelling and carrying the basketball.
@zacharygodfrey874 Maybe 10 years ago. He's been a defensive liability for years, and you know it, but you're too caught up in your feelings to admit it.
@@Kelvin-k8n nobody may, but he does , that’s what matters, he’s not a better player than Jordan , but unlike the guys in Jordan’s time, he’s not afraid , just saying they were afraid back then cause they were not as good as the players today, not Jordan , the others.
@keithmitchell8372 Funny how u left out MJ scored 36 pts in game 3 and the Bulls 💨 the Supersonics by 20+ pts. Game 4 MJ 23pts, Game 5 MJ 26 pts and Game 6 MJ 22pts and collected his fourth FMVP. Oh yeah, he sure had problems with the glove alright 😆
You forgetting one thing. One guy purposely inflates his stats. While the other is trying to win at any cost! Give me the guy with the killer will to win over the stat guy any day!
@@WinfordStraub God can you guys please stop with the stat padding crap both Jordan and Kobe were ball hogs who jacked up shots left and right all under the guise of trying to win. Kobe in particular was a volume shooter who rarely passed the ball yet he gets a free pass. LeBron wants to win but his teammates especially Anthony is not consistent.
@@JimSib1 thank you Sir, so sad that the lies about LeBron stat padding , yet far more efficient than either Jordan or Kobe , volume shooters , that’s the definition of stat padding
But you couldn’t breathe on Jordan , foul would be called , cause he was the league , and had to be protected , so tough defense wasn’t a problem , like Magic said in a photo he was taking in dream team’ don’t get close to Jordan , they’ll call a foul, so done with the tough defense argument , it’s nonsense
@@richardstaple1762Last time I checked, he shot less than 4 free throws a game, so yes, that may have existed, but not at the first half of his career; he was being abused by defenses literally. However, that still pales in comparison to the nonexistent defense played in this league against Lebron.
@@andrewbobb7659 I agree the defense is not as tough but an honest discussion will show that the guys who guarded LeBron throughout his career were far better, than the ones who guarded Jordan , a guy got MVP in the finals (Iguodala) fir just guarding LeBron , kawhi, Garnett, Paul George , Kobe, you can all name them , bigger stronger and better , than those guys who guarded Jordan. The defense was hard back then, but you just couldn’t touch Jordan, so being the great free throw shooter he was of course he’s gonna get his points
@@robertwilson9528 well yes , but the pistons and Celtics of the 80s, he. Couldn’t beat , those guys were great and tough , then in the 90s against heat and knicks he was driving to the basket anymore because of Oakley and mason fir knicks , and mourning fir heat , so he was just doing mid range then which he was very good at. Great player obviously but we have to contextualise his achievements as a lot of people do with LeBron
He's not even a basketball player, he's more like a college quarterback. That spread offense they created in Miami really hides all his flaws.The rule changes on defense helped also
@@anthonyw895 I mean come on man , lower the hate , that’s just crazy right there , ok you don’t like him , but to say that he’s not a basketball player and hit send is just crazy
@@stvnoahc7249 everything except free throw , that’s what a true and honest analysis will show , better shooter (not prettier), better rebounder, better passer , that’s facts , his shooting percentage is higher , his rebounding is more , so are his assists , I mean this is not an argument really
It's hilarious to say that Lebron dribbles the ball better than MJ. Obviously, MJ isn't the best dribbler, but Lebron is even further down on that list.
Jordan with a far superior jump shot, post up game, far superior defender, ball handler. Jordan with the most elite handskills, footwork, and offensive creativity ever seen. Jordan's fundamentals are infinitely superior to Lebrons
LeFlop is a better whiner. He's a better flopper. He's a better loser in the finals. He's a better lazy defender on the court. I am sure I can think of more stuff.
Better dribbler? LeBron bounces the ball off his foot almost on a nightly basis. Better passer? When MJ ran the point in 88-89, he averaged 11 assists a game through a stretch and 8 for the season. All while scoring 33 points a game on over 50% shooting. Where the F does this nonsense come from???
The older some of these guys from America get, the softer they minds and mouth get. I don’t know if it has something to do with money wasted during their career?
Gary Payton has said multiple times that mj is the goat and now he’s saying this. What’s wrong with these people going back and forth on what they say, just mind boggling to me how they change their minds
@keithmitchell8372 jacking from3 pt line, 3ft lay-ins. 22yrs of scripted basketball, of course. What about dribble moves, getting to your spots with creativity, what about the 18 footer? He can't do it.
Wow thank you very much for the overview and a education on certain stats related to MJ, Bird and Lebron. Gary Payton doesn't like MJ the end, he refuses to be objective. You made a excellent point Lebron barely and in my personal opinion doesn't even stack up to Larry Bird so why are still having this silly debate of Lebron and MJ????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I wonder all the time when this “2 way player” shit started. Like defense has always been a part of the game but now if you play defense and offense you are a 2 way player. First time someone told me oh this person is a 2 way player I was so confused. Then when they explained oh it’s someone who plays good offense and defense. I was just like isn’t that just a regular player?
Yeah u right LeBron leads in most categories in the post season points steals defensive rebounds fg made game winners most wins most post season series wins swept the most teams yeah u right damaging evidence Jordan fans are so delusional 😅😅😅😅
The crazy part that I just thought of. When Mj Played the Centers stayed in the middle. If MJ was playing now he would have more rebounds because the Centers now are playing on the 3 point line. They are calling Bron a better rebound player which he should be because of size but the era of today will tell you different anyways. Mj also shot mid range where Bron percentage is on lay ups
Also regarding field goal percentage, Jordan had that percentage while taking a lot of mid ranged shots. Lebron overall field goal percentage is due to him making most of his shots closer to the basker.
Remember Gary Payton had the super Duper up to win a ring himself . he played for the heat when they head on guys he played for the Celtics. He played for the Lakers.
Gary Payton has been hating on Jordan since the 90s. He's proven many times thay he is a clown, still butthurt over that finals loss. To say that Labrador James is a better dribbler than Mike is insane 😔😑
Everyone who says lebron is a better "all-around" player, they skip over the fact he doesn't play defense, he sucks at free-throws, his mid range is average, and his 3-points are below average.
Gary Payton was beaten by the Jordan 72-12 87-13 including playoffs and finals in 96 Gary Payton has lost his mind Lebron is nowhere near as good as Jordan and never will be
Basketball is offense and defense. Jordan has the most scoring titles and highest ppg in both regular season and playoffs, he also has a DPOY, most All Defensive First Teams and only player with 2 seasons with 200+ steals and 100+ blocks
Mj stats offensive and defensive impacted the game in a way that lead to his team winning and he dominated the NBA individually. Under Mj no one ate the championship table. Under LeBron, steph ate, Durant ate, joking ate, All of LeBron hall if Fame peers ate. None of Mj peers ate Under his reign.
When people say Lebron is a better all-around player than Jordan, they never mention defense. I don't get how he is a better all-around player when there is no mention of defense. It is just intellectually dishonest at this point. Thank you for always pointing out the things that should be obvious at this point when it comes to the G.O.A.T debate.
exactly, defense is half the game
Yall act like bron in his prime wasn't lockdown.
@@MrChess4He was never a great on ball defender
Thankyou
@@MrChess4definitely wasn’t clown
Lebron has only one move on offense and that's bullrush to the rim! For Gary to say Lebron is a better dribbler is foolish!
so does giannis lol
@Monkey-m8x Yes and that's why nobody calls Giannis "the goat."
@ nobody hates on him and calls trash or a choker either
Especially with all of his turnovers
That is foolish when Labron is turning the ball over at a much higher rate then MJ. MJ did play point in his early days he avg near 10 assist a game and had less turn overs
All around basketball player that doesn't have a go to shot or make FTs in crucial moments.
I heard somewhere that LeBron actually hit more game winning shots than Kobe it just that self serving media member only point out LeBron's failures.
@@pistolpete007 or a shoots 35% from the field outside of 3ft for his career.
No defense, mid range, can't play off the ball. It's so much, the media did a good job hyping LeBron up. But LeBron did do better at winning less with more and putting his teams together.
Stop the madness Jordan is the most complete or all around player ever,the guy could do everything on a basketball court, which he did every game,not just score or take big shots,that's the player i saw in the nba and at north Carolina.
@80sbaby73 How did the media hype LeBron up when he won four titles? The stuff you guys write in here makes zero sense. By the way Kevin Durant put together his own team including James Harden and Kyrie Irving and still couldn't win but everybody seems to love Kevin Durant so they fail to criticize him for doing the exact same things they crucify LeBron for. KD isn't a great defender either so....
How does LeBron dribble better than Jordan 😒😒
Specially when he’s allowed to carry, double dribble, charge, travel…not to mention the “gather-step” bs they allowed cause these so called “better-athletes” can’t do the fundamentals…
@petasmith6258 he literally plays treats it like football. Just run with it
LeBron is an average rebounder. It took him 8 more seasons to surpass Jordan in offensive rebounds. He’s an ok passer but a turnover machine. Scoring wise LeBron only has two moves, shooting uncontested threes and bullying to the basket while committing offensive fouls, travelling and carrying the basketball.
Anyone noticed he didn't mention defense. Jordan is a more diverse player. LeBron can't play defense.
He literally has made multiple defensive teams, but he can't play defense.
@@zacharygodfrey874how many? MJ 9 times all defense and DPOY
@@zacharygodfrey874yeah like 5 defensive teams in a 22 year career. Mainly around his first 10 years. Dude quit on d years ago.
@zacharygodfrey874 Maybe 10 years ago. He's been a defensive liability for years, and you know it, but you're too caught up in your feelings to admit it.
@@zacharygodfrey874
Maybe he CAN but he sure as hell DON’T.
New Clutch employee
Gary's been hating on mj for awhile
Totally disappointed in Payton! Jordan was a player other players FEARED!
Yea cause they were not good , guys today wouldn’t , like Ja morant said , I’ll cook him too
@@richardstaple1762problem with that NOBODY BELIEVES HIM!!! Maybe you do😂😂😂!
@@Kelvin-k8n nobody may, but he does , that’s what matters, he’s not a better player than Jordan , but unlike the guys in Jordan’s time, he’s not afraid , just saying they were afraid back then cause they were not as good as the players today, not Jordan , the others.
Gary said Sir Flop A Lot could dribble better than MJ….. ok I’m back. I just got up off the floor 😂
It's the truth LeBron James in his prime is a better dribbler than Michael Jordan
@TheRefs 🤣🤣🤣
@@TheRefslovesMichaelJordan
Clown literally dribbles off of his own feet
He still looks at the ball when he dribbles 🤦♂️🤦♀️🤦😆🤣😂 I think most people get past that around the 6th grade 😆 🤣 😂
@@TheRefslovesMichaelJordanI’ve seen this guy dribble the ball off his own feet and knees more often than an 8th grade girl. Stop it.
Is everyone signed to klutch sports?
I guess so 😂
So anybody that doesn't think Michael Jordan is the goat or doesn't share y'all opinion is signed to klutch right 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yup
@@TheRefslovesMichaelJordan you said it not me.
Could be Gary Peyton probably trying to get a coaching job in Lebum new basketball league
😆 "The glove, I had no problem with the glove. I had no problem with Gary Payton" MJ
So y did Jordan shoot 16 percent in the 4th quarters in games 4 5 6 if he had no problems with him
@keithmitchell8372 Funny how u left out MJ scored 36 pts in game 3 and the Bulls 💨 the Supersonics by 20+ pts. Game 4 MJ 23pts, Game 5 MJ 26 pts and Game 6 MJ 22pts and collected his fourth FMVP. Oh yeah, he sure had problems with the glove alright 😆
You forgetting one thing. One guy purposely inflates his stats. While the other is trying to win at any cost! Give me the guy with the killer will to win over the stat guy any day!
@@WinfordStraub God can you guys please stop with the stat padding crap both Jordan and Kobe were ball hogs who jacked up shots left and right all under the guise of trying to win. Kobe in particular was a volume shooter who rarely passed the ball yet he gets a free pass. LeBron wants to win but his teammates especially Anthony is not consistent.
@@JimSib1Always someone else fault, Jesus Christ!
@@JimSib1 thank you Sir, so sad that the lies about LeBron stat padding , yet far more efficient than either Jordan or Kobe , volume shooters , that’s the definition of stat padding
Didn't Jordan inflated his stats to win Dpoy
@keithmitchell8372 Yes he did but only LeBron is accused of stat padding.
Kenny Smith has also sold his soul to the LeMedia.
I've lost all respect for him for saying this nonsense. This is really disappointing because he was my favorite PG before hearing this audio.
So having a opinion is wrong if u not taking highly of Jordan
Charles You Are On A Roll Tonight, Must Be In The Water, Great Facts ✌️👍
LeBron isn't even top 5.
ide say 4th best give or take
Facts 😂
Cause you say so, right
He is not even in top 10. Just look at how he got his championships. He took way too many shortcuts to be in the top 10. He might be around top 12-15.
@@NYJGreatness agreed! No wonder he has a barbershop 💈 show…taking all them short cuts…
And Doesn't play D. Unless its at a particular party.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂LEPARTY
Now, we all know that Gary has always been a little off. But, I’ll be damn if this don’t confirm it 🤦♂️😂
Intangibles- Jordan played in an error when they played DEFENSE and still averaged 30PPG.
But you couldn’t breathe on Jordan , foul would be called , cause he was the league , and had to be protected , so tough defense wasn’t a problem , like Magic said in a photo he was taking in dream team’ don’t get close to Jordan , they’ll call a foul, so done with the tough defense argument , it’s nonsense
@@richardstaple1762 the pistons, Knicks, heat would disagree with you
@@richardstaple1762Last time I checked, he shot less than 4 free throws a game, so yes, that may have existed, but not at the first half of his career; he was being abused by defenses literally. However, that still pales in comparison to the nonexistent defense played in this league against Lebron.
@@andrewbobb7659 I agree the defense is not as tough but an honest discussion will show that the guys who guarded LeBron throughout his career were far better, than the ones who guarded Jordan , a guy got MVP in the finals (Iguodala) fir just guarding LeBron , kawhi, Garnett, Paul George , Kobe, you can all name them , bigger stronger and better , than those guys who guarded Jordan. The defense was hard back then, but you just couldn’t touch Jordan, so being the great free throw shooter he was of course he’s gonna get his points
@@robertwilson9528 well yes , but the pistons and Celtics of the 80s, he. Couldn’t beat , those guys were great and tough , then in the 90s against heat and knicks he was driving to the basket anymore because of Oakley and mason fir knicks , and mourning fir heat , so he was just doing mid range then which he was very good at. Great player obviously but we have to contextualise his achievements as a lot of people do with LeBron
The Glove still bitter he didn't get a ring
Larry bird is better than LeBron
Facts
Agreed. Bird was a trash talker and backed it up.
I can't understand how the Glove could say that.
all around hahaha what a joke guy dont even plays on defense
All around player with a lossing record in the championship i don’t think so
He's not even a basketball player, he's more like a college quarterback. That spread offense they created in Miami really hides all his flaws.The rule changes on defense helped also
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@@anthonyw895 I mean come on man , lower the hate , that’s just crazy right there , ok you don’t like him , but to say that he’s not a basketball player and hit send is just crazy
@richardstaple1762 I'm not hating, he top 15 all time. Easy
Remember Jordan clowned GP🤔. Aside from bullying the lane, Bird is a better all around player than Bron. Offensively 2
Another legend giving up reputation to money.
He never mentioned defense
I'm sick of this if u saw mj u know he's better than lj period!!
No his not
Payton gonna run that mouth till the lights turn out, he's always been a fool.
Why listen to Gary Payton ? This man hates Michael Jordan, just like Isaiah thomas and Bill laimbeer hate MJ t'ill this day, Lmao 😆🙄🤦🏿♂️!
So just listen to whoever says what you like to hear huh?
Exactly straight delusion
Ummm...what about defense???
Nah, Westbrook is a better all-around player than Bron. Plus, he dribbles the ball better. Westbrook is a better basketball player. 🤷🏾♂️
Westbrook’s own family doesn’t even believe that lol.
@@jaydot4956FACTS
Everyone is captured by Klutch
Compromised
This was a complete joke but dang Gary Payton was one of my favorite players growing up. The guy was a killer on the court.
I have been saying this for years!!!!
ALL AROUND FLOBBER
I don’t know what lebron does better than MJ.
Everything
@@stvnoahc7249 everything except free throw , that’s what a true and honest analysis will show , better shooter (not prettier), better rebounder, better passer , that’s facts , his shooting percentage is higher , his rebounding is more , so are his assists , I mean this is not an argument really
Dude! This is not quite news...gary payton frequent the same club as Isiah...
It's hilarious to say that Lebron dribbles the ball better than MJ. Obviously, MJ isn't the best dribbler, but Lebron is even further down on that list.
The 2 assist are also canceled out by lebrons high turnover rate
Magic said the same thing on first take so i guess magic in that category too 😂🤷🏿♂️
We must continue to set the record straight!! 🤝🏾
Jordan with a far superior jump shot, post up game, far superior defender, ball handler. Jordan with the most elite handskills, footwork, and offensive creativity ever seen.
Jordan's fundamentals are infinitely superior to Lebrons
This fool said dribbling 😂 lebron invented the crab dribble
LeFlop is a better whiner. He's a better flopper. He's a better loser in the finals. He's a better lazy defender on the court. I am sure I can think of more stuff.
Larry bird is a better all round player than LeBron. He’s the goat small forward.
Better dribbler? LeBron bounces the ball off his foot almost on a nightly basis. Better passer? When MJ ran the point in 88-89, he averaged 11 assists a game through a stretch and 8 for the season. All while scoring 33 points a game on over 50% shooting. Where the F does this nonsense come from???
Jordan is ranked 52nd in assist c'mon bro knock it off
what about KOBE VS LBJ
Gary Payton got a ring chasing championship. If he had gotten a championship defeating Michael Jordan then would we be talking
Lebron isn't top 10. He's a top 5 SF but more like 5th
Michael Jordan is better than LeBron James
Never
The older some of these guys from America get, the softer they minds and mouth get. I don’t know if it has something to do with money wasted during their career?
Or why don't we try respecting a legends opinion? 😂
Because he's giving LeBron credit apparently u are not supposed to do that
😂😆😂🤣😭😂😆 LeBron James Is Not Better In Any Facet Of The Game Than Mike 🤷🏿♂️🤣😭😂!!!
Payton forgot to add he Flops Better, and Complains Better.
Gary Payton has said multiple times that mj is the goat and now he’s saying this. What’s wrong with these people going back and forth on what they say, just mind boggling to me how they change their minds
LeBron cannot, I repeat CANNOT SCORE better than Bird. More athletic, that's all he got on Bird.
40k points
@keithmitchell8372 jacking from3 pt line, 3ft lay-ins. 22yrs of scripted basketball, of course. What about dribble moves, getting to your spots with creativity, what about the 18 footer? He can't do it.
They never talk defense with LeBum it's ridiculous how they analyze the game
The 🧤 actually surprised me
Wow thank you very much for the overview and a education on certain stats related to MJ, Bird and Lebron. Gary Payton doesn't like MJ the end, he refuses to be objective. You made a excellent point Lebron barely and in my personal opinion doesn't even stack up to Larry Bird so why are still having this silly debate of Lebron and MJ????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
He said, dribble... I think smh.. please GP
He really said he could dribble better 😂😂😂
Bent the knee 😅😅😅😅😅😅I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THE GLOVE😂😂
I wonder all the time when this “2 way player” shit started. Like defense has always been a part of the game but now if you play defense and offense you are a 2 way player. First time someone told me oh this person is a 2 way player I was so confused. Then when they explained oh it’s someone who plays good offense and defense. I was just like isn’t that just a regular player?
"NBA legend embarrasses himself by claiming Lebron James can dress better than Michael Jordan"
Michael Jordan would be a trillionare every time his name has been mentioned since he retired
Man, dem Klutch checks be coming in clutch for real fo deez dudes!
When he said he a better ball handler thats when gary lost me! With all of his turnovers dude is not better
Garry Paton is saying that because he is Bitter at Michael Jordan for Laughing at him on the Last Dance Documentary 😂
If he’s the better all around player how does it not translate to wins? Especially when he always has superstar help😂
Gary mad he didn’t win a ring with the lakers 😂
Looking at the playoffs makes the differences even more obvious and damaging to LeBron
Yeah u right LeBron leads in most categories in the post season points steals defensive rebounds fg made game winners most wins most post season series wins swept the most teams yeah u right damaging evidence Jordan fans are so delusional 😅😅😅😅
to say that LBJ is a better dribbler than MJ is such a bad take
Put MJ and Lebron on the same team. Lebron wouldnt be #1 option.
So i suppose to take this dude word over GP 😂😂😂😂😂 foh
gary payton just got hired by the klutch sports that is why😂
Lebron ain’t better than KOBE BEAN BRYANT !
Yes he is better than Kobe and it ain't close
Keep making em mad Gary. 😂😂😂
Hey Gary Payton wants the SeattleSonics back. So what he says is Gospel.
The crazy part that I just thought of. When Mj Played the Centers stayed in the middle. If MJ was playing now he would have more rebounds because the Centers now are playing on the 3 point line. They are calling Bron a better rebound player which he should be because of size but the era of today will tell you different anyways. Mj also shot mid range where Bron percentage is on lay ups
Also regarding field goal percentage, Jordan had that percentage while taking a lot of mid ranged shots. Lebron overall field goal percentage is due to him making most of his shots closer to the basker.
Remember Gary Payton had the super Duper up to win a ring himself . he played for the heat when they head on guys he played for the Celtics. He played for the Lakers.
Kenny Smith got that saying from Tom Sawyer btw... lol
Gary Payton is still bitter because MJ and his Bulls beat GP and his Supersonics in The 1996 NBA Finals.
GARY PAYTON IS ON glue
Dribble better than Jordan???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 He must be on some real strong drugs. Everytime leflop dribbles it’s an almost guaranteed turnover. What a joke.
Ummmm.... Lebron isn't even remotely a better all around player than Scottie Pippen of all people to mentioned. LOL!
GP still salty cause he ain’t got no jewelry because of Mike 😂😂
You make quite a lot of LeBron videos
Gary Payton has been hating on Jordan since the 90s. He's proven many times thay he is a clown, still butthurt over that finals loss. To say that Labrador James is a better dribbler than Mike is insane 😔😑
Everyone who says lebron is a better "all-around" player, they skip over the fact he doesn't play defense, he sucks at free-throws, his mid range is average, and his 3-points are below average.
Gary Payton was beaten by the Jordan 72-12 87-13 including playoffs and finals in 96 Gary Payton has lost his mind Lebron is nowhere near as good as Jordan and never will be
Basketball is offense and defense. Jordan has the most scoring titles and highest ppg in both regular season and playoffs, he also has a DPOY, most All Defensive First Teams and only player with 2 seasons with 200+ steals and 100+ blocks
Of Jordan focused on passing the Bulls don't get 2 3peats 😂😂😂
Lost all respect for David. Nah, not David. More like Dave
Mj stats offensive and defensive impacted the game in a way that lead to his team winning and he dominated the NBA individually.
Under Mj no one ate the championship table.
Under LeBron, steph ate, Durant ate, joking ate, All of LeBron hall if Fame peers ate. None of Mj peers ate Under his reign.
LeBron is the leader in career turnovers per game at 3.5 per game. This is THEIR GOAT🤦🏽♂️
above a 2:1 ast-tov ratio. keep hating
LeBron not even a better rebounder
Ok we get it Lebron James is not in your top 5! That’s just Gary Payton’s point of view.