Another suggestion: Each new card is added in increments of 10. For example 2345.10 is followed by 2345.20. That way if you find something that goes between those cards, it can be numbered 2345.15
I really like seeing you move physical pieces of paper across the desk rather than digital screenshots. The physical interaction of cut out pieces of print involves learning outside the brain. The physical/spacial proximity between the language dominant notes are vastly more critical than the alpha-numeric sequence. Your video aptly demonstrates this critical concept. I love your idea, "...the only thing it's behind is nothing."
I should have seen this video a long time ago. I started antinet building less than a week ago and ended up with a horrible address like 4200/4/1a/2a/1/1. (But I'm not going to debug and refactor the note address, I'll accept mistakes as part of the process). Maybe I missed something in the book. But the TH-cam video makes it much easier to understand, and more Antinet building beginners should watch it. 🥺
HI Scott. At minute 9:00 you say that there are other videos that "determine addresses based on academic disciplines". Can you please tell me which one? I searched your channel but I could not find it. Thanks
Question: How will this work for mathematics and engineering disciplines. Consider proofs that require space and examples to express a complete thought.
Option 1: you use it as is for writing out your thoughts and evolving them. Option 2: you go the Feynman route and use a notebook. Then, if you want, you connect them. (Watch my connecting a commonplace book to a Zettelkasten video)
I considered this question (thinking back to my college days, how would I organize my math notes using the Zettelkasten system? Its flexibility and connectivity would have been empowering). While some proofs can get fairly long, it's good practice to break these down into manageable steps, and most definitions and theorems can fit on one side of a card anyway. Maybe use larger cards, A5/6"x8" or so, with the occasional (folded) double-sized card for the extra-long notes. External linkes to examples and exercises worked out in full detail will be unavoidable.
I don’t want to waste cards on a bunch of academic disciplines I don’t read in my box because I only focus on 1 or two and would benefit more from having categories that are the focus of what I actually read which stay within the 1 or 2 disciplines (ie psychology and social work or subcategories like mental health/ interpersonal practice, policy, social justice/ organizing, ). If my goal is a book within my academic discipline will this system still work if I have one or two disciplines or no? I can’t start because these categories throw me off.
I would like to see ANY of these Zettelkasten numbering videos to show the absolute beginning; year zero, day zero, day zero note 1, 2 , 3 etc. Also is the number one note the top level category for the topic? Shopuld IT include a note as well?
Thank you for this. I’m still a bit confused about numbers and letters. Schmidt states that 1/1 is card with notes, then 1/1a card containing notes referring to 1/1, then 1/1b as continuation of 1/1a. That sounds different to what you said where you suggested 1/1/1 rather than 1/1a. Possibly getting into the weeds here but I’d be grateful for clarification
@@scottscheper thank you. I will check them out. I am trying to figure out how to use the zettelkasten. I do prefer to be analog, but at the moment, and for the next six months, i am in a nomadic situation. But i do not want to "wait" until i get back home to start implementing the zettelkasten for my notes. Any suggestions? Thank you for your time. Cheers
Okay, first this is great-thank you. Second, what do you propose for sub-branches (topics) under main sections that have more than nine main subcategories? For instance, Applied Science (5000) has 14 subcategories. So, if the first subcategory, let's say "agriculture", is 5100 then you run out of numbers if you need to accommodate more than nine (5100, 5200, 5300 ... etc.). Based on your example at the beginning of the vid, I'm branching down with a main topic (1000, 2000, 3000 ... etc.) and then going into main subcategories by numbering 1100, 1200, 1300 and then going even deeper, at which point it gets more arbitrary with 1109, 1127, 1156. All good, but you only have nine slots for subtopics (or subcategories). Am I making sense? This has been driving me crazy and am hoping you can shed some light here.
Thanks for the patience here. @MikeGastin - You're thinking of it in theory, but in practice, I've never really gotten close to filling out a branch or running out of room. One idea you could leverage however, is appending an alpha character to the top-level branch. (i.e., 1109A 1109B, etc. ) That way it's 1109A/1
@@scottscheper You're 100% correct. I'm getting hung up on the theoretical aspects of the numbering scheme. Your suggestion works just fine. Here's what I came up with in the meantime: Rather than use 1000, 2000, 3000, etc., I start with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Then I append a letter to the main number to signify a second-level topic. So, for instance 1 signifies Humanities, 1A could signify History (or Performing Art, as at this level it's arbitrary. Then, to drill down (or branch off!) more I add a decimal. So, 1A.4 would signify Intellectual History. Then I just add a slash after for a given idea. So, I end up with something like: 1A.4/10.2b1 ...
@@scottscheper Yeah, I was on a bit of a pause in 2023. It was a hard (and amazing) year in so many ways. Finally back at it and the time distracted resulted in me being able to sort out some foundational challenges. now it's full steam ahead. Scott, I am so grateful for all you've done to help me on my journey. Thank you. 🙏🏼🚀
Very helpful. The basic distinction between letters for variation and numbers for continuation is eye-opening. Thanks!
Great. Good job Scott and Nicholas.
Another suggestion: Each new card is added in increments of 10.
For example 2345.10 is followed by 2345.20. That way if you find something that goes between those cards, it can be numbered 2345.15
kinda like ms-basic...
@@jolex_nerd8132 Exactly like ms-basic. That's where I shamelessly took the idea from.
@@jolex_nerd8132 Exactly like ms-basic. That's where I shamelessly stole the idea from.
The best explanation ever . Thanks a lot . I have watched a few videos that I couldn’t understand
I really like seeing you move physical pieces of paper across the desk rather than digital screenshots. The physical interaction of cut out pieces of print involves learning outside the brain. The physical/spacial proximity between the language dominant notes are vastly more critical than the alpha-numeric sequence. Your video aptly demonstrates this critical concept. I love your idea, "...the only thing it's behind is nothing."
Hey! I was surprised to see 2 of my reddit questions in this video. Thanks for using it and helping to answer my questions. Great video explanation!
I should have seen this video a long time ago. I started antinet building less than a week ago and ended up with a horrible address like 4200/4/1a/2a/1/1. (But I'm not going to debug and refactor the note address, I'll accept mistakes as part of the process).
Maybe I missed something in the book. But the TH-cam video makes it much easier to understand, and more Antinet building beginners should watch it. 🥺
Great video, Nicolas!
HI Scott. At minute 9:00 you say that there are other videos that "determine addresses based on academic disciplines". Can you please tell me which one? I searched your channel but I could not find it. Thanks
Question: How will this work for mathematics and engineering disciplines. Consider proofs that require space and examples to express a complete thought.
Option 1: you use it as is for writing out your thoughts and evolving them.
Option 2: you go the Feynman route and use a notebook. Then, if you want, you connect them. (Watch my connecting a commonplace book to a Zettelkasten video)
I considered this question (thinking back to my college days, how would I organize my math notes using the Zettelkasten system? Its flexibility and connectivity would have been empowering). While some proofs can get fairly long, it's good practice to break these down into manageable steps, and most definitions and theorems can fit on one side of a card anyway. Maybe use larger cards, A5/6"x8" or so, with the occasional (folded) double-sized card for the extra-long notes. External linkes to examples and exercises worked out in full detail will be unavoidable.
I don’t want to waste cards on a bunch of academic disciplines I don’t read in my box because I only focus on 1 or two and would benefit more from having categories that are the focus of what I actually read which stay within the 1 or 2 disciplines (ie psychology and social work or subcategories like mental health/ interpersonal practice, policy, social justice/ organizing, ). If my goal is a book within my academic discipline will this system still work if I have one or two disciplines or no? I can’t start because these categories throw me off.
Question: where did the list of academic disciplines (0:22) come from?
How can I obtain a copy?
I would like to see ANY of these Zettelkasten numbering videos to show the absolute beginning; year zero, day zero, day zero note 1, 2 , 3 etc. Also is the number one note the top level category for the topic? Shopuld IT include a note as well?
Have you bought the book?
lovin' your videos! [i followed your channel] but where's Scott? on holiday?
On holiday ;)
Makes simple topics complex to understand.
So well done. Thank you!
This was very helpful
Thank you for this. I’m still a bit confused about numbers and letters. Schmidt states that 1/1 is card with notes, then 1/1a card containing notes referring to 1/1, then 1/1b as continuation of 1/1a. That sounds different to what you said where you suggested 1/1/1 rather than 1/1a.
Possibly getting into the weeds here but I’d be grateful for clarification
Thanks for another insightful video. I think here 7:14 you meant to say .../1/0 🤔
Good video, thanks. :)
Hi. Could you please recommend another TH-cam channel covering the zettelkasten? Thank you
Nicolas Gatien, Hailey Rene, Kathleen Spracklen
@@scottscheper thank you. I will check them out. I am trying to figure out how to use the zettelkasten. I do prefer to be analog, but at the moment, and for the next six months, i am in a nomadic situation. But i do not want to "wait" until i get back home to start implementing the zettelkasten for my notes. Any suggestions? Thank you for your time. Cheers
Okay, first this is great-thank you. Second, what do you propose for sub-branches (topics) under main sections that have more than nine main subcategories? For instance, Applied Science (5000) has 14 subcategories. So, if the first subcategory, let's say "agriculture", is 5100 then you run out of numbers if you need to accommodate more than nine (5100, 5200, 5300 ... etc.). Based on your example at the beginning of the vid, I'm branching down with a main topic (1000, 2000, 3000 ... etc.) and then going into main subcategories by numbering 1100, 1200, 1300 and then going even deeper, at which point it gets more arbitrary with 1109, 1127, 1156. All good, but you only have nine slots for subtopics (or subcategories). Am I making sense? This has been driving me crazy and am hoping you can shed some light here.
Thanks for the patience here. @MikeGastin - You're thinking of it in theory, but in practice, I've never really gotten close to filling out a branch or running out of room. One idea you could leverage however, is appending an alpha character to the top-level branch. (i.e., 1109A 1109B, etc. ) That way it's 1109A/1
@@scottscheper You're 100% correct. I'm getting hung up on the theoretical aspects of the numbering scheme. Your suggestion works just fine. Here's what I came up with in the meantime: Rather than use 1000, 2000, 3000, etc., I start with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Then I append a letter to the main number to signify a second-level topic. So, for instance 1 signifies Humanities, 1A could signify History (or Performing Art, as at this level it's arbitrary. Then, to drill down (or branch off!) more I add a decimal. So, 1A.4 would signify Intellectual History. Then I just add a slash after for a given idea. So, I end up with something like: 1A.4/10.2b1 ...
@@MikeGastin I dig it. That makes sense. It sounds like you're having a renaissance of knowledge development and creation over there lately! 🗃
@@scottscheper Yeah, I was on a bit of a pause in 2023. It was a hard (and amazing) year in so many ways. Finally back at it and the time distracted resulted in me being able to sort out some foundational challenges. now it's full steam ahead. Scott, I am so grateful for all you've done to help me on my journey. Thank you. 🙏🏼🚀