800hp BMW E30 V8 Review: My Perfect Widow Maker
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Ross Bradley has spent 10 years building one of the world’s most powerful BMW E30s. In this special video, we find out what it’s like to drive, and exactly what goes into making a car like this.
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"calculations based on gear ratio and diff ratio" my arse, he knows exactly how fast that thing can go.
Tell me where he would be able to hit such a speed in England? He'd probably have to test it at the old Le Mans circuit to hit it.
+ByVillex he can visit me in Germany anytime. I'll show him a few roads^^. But he should look into his mirror we have a few crazy BMWs, VWs and GTRs who will eat him.
+Steffen kawa defo lol getting overtook at 150 haha
+Watsonisawesome
i'm actually amazed the 0-60 is so slow. 4 seconds? with 590hp/ton?
Ryukachoo its rear wheel drive so really hard to get off the line without wheel spinning all over the place with all that power!
All the people complaining about what he should have done...do it yourselves then. It's his pride and joy and he did what he wanted, don't put him down for that. An absolutely breathtaking car. Would love to one day build a S38 turboed E30
Good reply. I hate the whole JDM vs Euro Car vs Muscle thing. We are all car guys with different tastes. Just realize we all have a passion for cars, can't we bond over it. The simple Muscle vs tuner drag race friendly competitions are nice, but all the hate and rudeness I don't get
Good reply. I hate the whole JDM vs Euro Car vs Muscle thing. We are all car guys with different tastes. Just realize we all have a passion for cars, can't we bond over it. The simple Muscle vs tuner drag race friendly competitions are nice, but all the hate and rudeness I don't get
precisely why he went with a TT LS...........idiots dont know how much blowing an engine can cost or a diff....this guy has obviously been around the block enough to know LS setup build around it lmao. S38 is a bit high comp to be pushing large boost. Its a fine engine as is Id much rather have a well built/tuned like a glove NA stroker vs a car with big boost you can only use it on the straights anyways....as a driver you wouldnt learn much about driving fast with a car like that if you were an amateur.....hes also building it as a drag car. Nice thing is that with tunes to gear and boost delivery he can use it at a strip or a track.
I Love this reaction
@@anhiirr you realize it's a sbc right, not a ls
this is officially my new top gear
+chris mackin I still prefer the one on Amazon.
+HaCkErZ931 i thought it's not even out yet, so until then...
+chris mackin i dont miss topgear couse youtubers provide much better vids
+raivons now lets not get ridiculous. I like these guys plenty- but how can they really compete with the millions of dollars the top gear trio has to work with.
+rasvial Exactly the way alex, and all carthottle team is doing it, with carguy passion, lots of carguy humor, a bit of sarcasm here and there, and just being honest about the cars, like a normal person would do.
The question is... Why not M60's engine ? Anyway who cares, great BMW
LONG LIVE E30
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biffex because ls is god
BMWs from the 80s are the best
+UzzyFuzzyy agree
My dad had an e30 318i, alpine white with a tape deck. I fucking adored that car before I even knew I loved cars. Sold it for a Golf match, bellend.
+xxX_BomBer_Xxx No, Honda civics from the 90's SHIT on any car these days, mines like 1600Brake fluid horse power.
*****
Thats my honda civic bro, Its got a Mustang front body kit, and Lambo back body kit..
+EpicnessCPw You get he's trolling the fuck out of you right?
99% of people in the comments will never build something.
"you make it fit" that's the proper attitude of a real mechanic. many shops don't have mechanics today, they have "technicians" instead, who only know how to use a computer and change one part into another just like it.
Only a hand full of people will fully understand the magnitude of this build. Well done Ross.
Christ on a bike.
Omg hi
+Mumbo Jumbo Mumbo!! this is my sh*t, love old BMWs! prefer my bikes though, my £5k bike does 0-60 in little over 3s
+Mumbo Jumbo YOU. AGAIN. WTF
he literally comments on every video, but never engages discussion apart from "ehh it's mumbo"
Yo, didn't expect you here!
Of all the LS swaps people do, this man put so much blood, sweat, tears, and money into this that I have to love it. He MADE IT HIMSELF! This wasn't a, off-the-shelf kit for an S-chassis; it was hand made by this man. You cannot hate this if you're a real car guy.
much money very spent but at least he used the money on a car addiction and not a drug addiction like the chavs in the UK
+craig jeans He's actually in rehab :/ #JustKidding
+Alex Kersten heheheh boi
+craig jeans perfectly said
+craig jeans He's engineer man, some of the benefits of disposable income.
Wow the hate is strong with this one
Where can I buy a 250hp switch for my honda, preferably used?
Banter
You taken off your rev limiter yet m8? Gotta let the vtec kick in with unlimited sweg
+derpinated can forget the short throw dipstick
Get a turbo, a strengthened engine, a NOx trap (reduces emissions with urea-based fluid), and a strengthened radiator.
I should actually go to sleep now, but CT is love, CT is life! Screw you test! Thanks for the vid, BTW.
you are goddamn right
+erik mellgard Same situation here, my friend
+erik mellgard it's not like 10min is gonna make you fail .
Where are you in the world because it's 4:00 in the afternoon where I am
And as of right now this video came out 45 minutes ago
Imagine if you bought this car off him and anything goes wrong . You'd be so fucked. parts from about 60 different cars in. 4 different cars just for brakes
Alan 😂😂😂😂😂
0-60 in 4 seconds with 800bhp... oh dear guess he needs to engineer more traction
Tom Forrest ouch
50/50 weight distribution when it was stock, now it has a big V8 with lots of turbo plumbing in the front means there's probably not a lot of weight over the back wheels, add no electronic aids at all and a fairly aggressive clutch and it's probably not very easy to launch fast at all.
This isn't a drag car built to launch as fast as possible but useless around a corner.
This build is so awesome, nearly perfect...why some ppl dislike??
pretty ugly stance
+Rusty Nugget You're a Ricer
Because some people think that the E30 is perfect as it is, that there is no need to make it "better".
Ye, but those shouldn't dislike videos just because the car doesn't fit their taste or something! Its much work to buid a car like this...either you give a like or shut the f*** up and better watch other videos! :D
In my opinion, thats exactly what the dislike button is made for. People showing content and the viewer´s judge it by liking/disliking
Yep.. pretty much explain why I love the e30 M3 and this version is WOW!
But its not a M3 its just a normal e30
@@BostaGold not normal...e30 mt2 ;)
where can I sell my kidneys and other body parts to afford this car
Ebay.
Ben Ward
Mexico
China
brazrl
I love Car Throttle but the comments always make me sad... This guy spent 10 years building what he wanted and he did it! Like it or not but don't hate and complain!
If it has a V8 chevy it should be called :"GM-W", love it!
+buck marcabu
hahaahhaahah love it!
This is easily the single most under-rated comment I have ever read.
Great video thanks guys
Still the best looking car BMW have ever made.
E36
Brody Robison e28
E46 has my heart as well
E39
E46 GTR 😍
So 204mph is when you run out of gear? Or when your balls can't drop any lower?
"Respect your elders", the sticker, is literally mental.!.. and an iconic representation of the classic BMW
(03:15)
2 twin turbos? so it has 4 turbos
same thought xD
I heard that too lol
Because he didn't really build it. He's just the poster boy.
Twin scrolls??
Nope. A twin turbo is a single turbo..not the same like bi-turbo
Honestly this is such a beautiful car and I'm not big on people doing LS swaps but this guy did it right. And it's his car and he had his vision to make it his way and some people are gonna like it and some aren't. I like it I think it's really cool and I want to say congratulations on finishing your build
It is a nice car, but if you're putting a v8 in it, why not take a BMW v8 at least?
+Matthias Schmitt OH MY GOD i was thinking the same...that power figure is attainable with even an inline 6 bmw!
+Matthias Schmitt Even Morgan use BMW V8 engines.
he maybe liked that v8 More than a BMW v8.
+Matthias Schmitt Too expensive & tricky I guess - it'd cost a fortune to get 800bhp out of a BMW V8 plus compared to an American pushrod V8, they take up a lot more room, so would be much harder to fit in and you'd have bugger all room left over for the turbos etc.
TeqHDcasper maybe, but I just feels likethe car loses a lot of its personality that way and that's kinda sad because e30s are awesome...
Would that fit in my civic?
+TheAussieStig30 Why would you want that in your civic? Mines 1600Brake horsepower.. Who defuq wants that lol.. I got like 7.6seconds on the 1/4 mile..
+buk lau I don't think you understood his mightcarmods reference friend
+tyler mason haha
+TheAussieStig30 You make it fit.
tyler mason
Nah i know, i just wanted to show off my amazing honda civic race missile ;)
Not an mx5 though is it.
+Cornwall1888 Yea, thats the only problem i see here
+Cornwall1888 That's why it's good.
Towe96 AAAAW, someone had to ruin the moment
+Towe96 haha yes!
+Cornwall1888 nah, it isn't. it's more practical and looks better.
its absolutely stunning, ross mate proper job
its so silly , how he jumps around in the seat at crusing speed while talking
slick......really slick.......love the way this car is put together....respect.
Can't believe the haters on his car, I've seen it twice this year, this thing is top notch fair play Ross, I saw her a players and low collective, and I can't wait till next year to see the beast again, if you've never had a e30 you'll never understand 😀
thats one of the most beautiful cars ive ever seen
35 liters
~2 miles "not to hard"
6 liters
WTF?!! that means about 1450 liliters / 100 miles / 160 km.
That can't be correct!
***** ops, my bad
I wish car makers could do one offs now and again of there classics and do something like this with a modern touch and restoration making a clean car
Why the camber it's disgusting
thank you for not being rice
+NotQuiteFishFPS Actually that camber is perfect! But the stretched tiny tires are the dumbest thing you can put on a 800 hp car....
+alman alman EXACTLY THANK YOU
+NotQuiteFishFPS i'm guessing for cornering
+alman alman well it isnt you should camber your wheels around as much as a supercar.
He says "Most of my friends think I'm mental, but you only live once, so why not?"
This car reminds me of a great phrase 'magnificent obsession'. This is how you get extraordinary things done.
You don't get where you want to be by living a 'balanced' life. If you have dreams, aspirations, goals; you must develop a magnificent obsession.
This is quite a different thing than 'being mental (crazy)'.
Possessing a magnificent obsession means that there is a method (a purpose/driving force/inspiration/vision) that only you can see, which resides behind the madness, which is all that others see.
which song was used in the background? 😍
best customized car ever , simple, clean and perfect
Now don't get me wrong, I highly respect the build and how dope it is. But me personally, as soon as a foreign engine is running a BMW. To me it's no longer a BMW. This goes for any swaps for any car.
Ikr. Someone on YT has an early 70's Nova with a rotary... Yeah it's weird, cool, and fast... But it still bothers me...
Still an E30 setup gocart feel with some more understeer and pull. Running a 1000hp M3 turbo or an LS N/A with 800hp, both E30s are insane to drive.
Idk BMW body and badges make it simple enough to call it a bmw instead of rattling off every car part he has on it. So who cares... it’s a bmw.
What a limiting perspective to have. Sounds just like a normal bmw fan boy.
That exhaust makes the V8 sound like a 4 cyl. Still a badass car. I drive an E30 daily and they are great cars.
The only problem is tires looks disgusting.
Is that all you can pick at is the tyres???
ross bradley no, I mean everiyhing is fine but the tyres.
+Ertan Can Atik sorry but how can a tyre be disgusting ??
Tyres looks much wide because of that it looks disgusting. If tyres gonna be wide so car needs wide body. I think that's the point.
+Ertan Can Atik Well he could always do a body mod and flare out the fenders for a wide body.
got to love the effort put in to this build
Although not my cup of earl gray, I totally appreciate the level of engineering and love that went into this build. Fantastic fit and finish and I love the understated interior. Pouce vert mon mec:)
Français ?
+Red Fox tu mere
Amazing build! Well done Ross! Have fun!
lol this engine is normal in usa
quarawlis stafford
But a 1350kg kerb weight isn't.
quarawlis stafford not in an e30, and definitely without turbos. Most swapped e30s get an M50 engine.
its normal to anyone with the means and feasible capability to create a LS swap should and would its a matter of practicality and logic....cheap low maintenance and light weight.....though Iron block is strongly recommended for application of forced induction.....you cant out value what a LS setup brings let alone LS+boost...as the world stands its the go-to.....look at auto cross or any amateur racing its the king lol it makes the driver....look at the nitto challenge lmao some random LS drifter wins drag speed, and track speed at some amateur event where they give a year supply of tires lmao....and hes in you guessed it a NA LS 240sx lmao...only fitting a drifter wins a year supply of tires.
The most beautiful model BMW ever produced !!!! Since i was a teenager every time i saw this baby rolling down the road i followed it till it disappeared ... Just to own this car means you are 100% male , a masculine car that never gets old !!!!
I am not a horsepower guy , so even if it was completely stock i would fine with it but this sounds like a monster !!!!
absolutely awesome video all the way through !!!!
800 reliable horsepower, that's great. He still has a lot of room to turn up the wicked on this engine. American tuners are making over double this power with this motor. That kind of power would make it undrivable in that chassis and those roads. Really nice build.
Wao , congratulations to the owner for building this incredible car. I wish I could do something like that to my 95 VWCabrio .
"Oh nice BM... Nope camber. Damnit so close"
cheapo911 cambers are used to get maximum grip on the road.....
It may come because of the weight but idk
Im so happy for you guys your channel. Well pleased to see your subscriber and views now. Solid building. Well done lads keep it up (y)
I would rather have own this then a Maclaren P1, anyone with me here?
Nice car... Very, very nice in fact. I had 3 E30 back in the day, a 316i, a 318iS and then an M50 powered 325i. I very much doubt even this monster could hit 200mph as the E30 aerodynamics are laughable, I believe anything beyond about 150mph needs considerations towards the car's CD as much as it's power. Looks like the steering is still the rubbish 4 turns lock to lock and possibly the brakes are still bias towards LHD with the bar across the bulkhead, I would have assumed the latter would be easily solved... Purists might argue there are plenty of BMW V8 and even V12 that might fit in the E30 bay, but I would hazard a guess that the American lump gives more space for turbos and is easier to modify to ultra high BHP figures.
He needs to engineer a better suspension system. That thing looks like a spine crusher. Rest of build is awesome.
Buddy Craig not to mention an exhaust that doesn’t sound like complete ass. How does a twin turbo v8 sound like a geo metro. I don’t understand.
Know this car and ross personally, and had the insane pleasure of being in it, video didn't pick up sound anywhere near what its like.
Amazing car bro and 2 have a twin turbo in a e30 is insane i take my hat's off to you ross
Very cool but personally not a fan of lowering or the camber. Could look so much nicer.
I wish you are closer to South Africa, we definitely need your expertise
This is the most beautiful thing on the Internet
💯 Ross bless up nice car 🇯🇲
Should never have sold my E30 -_-
Is that car owner have a ‘cockney’ dialect? Awesome to see a Brit using an American engine. Love it.
yeah my mum is from london lol
amazing car and amazing work on it...congrats mate!
That registration shows 127bhp today this video its made 5 years ago dvla its not been told engine upgrade im asking as im planning doing my car do i need to tell dvla?
Man this car is awesome, but u have steering wheel on wrong side:D
wrong engine as well
he's it britain, they drive on the left so the side closest to the road centre is the right
Wrong Engine,steering on the right side.He loves it,we can atleast respect that.
This Ross chapp; thats my kinda people!!!
where is my 250bhp switch i need one ;)
Very nice ride, I used to have a 325i e30 and now wondering if I had put an electric motor, surely it could have more hp and so much torque than a combustion engine, congrats.
Hey man did you know i love your car more than you do😲
Simply amazing! Well done fella!
i get it that the Chevy V8 is more affordable but i think he should have gone with a BMW V8. i like to keep engine swaps and cars getting the swap in the same family. for example a Nissan powertrain in a Infiniti or a Renault or any of the 3 is fine by me. and sometimes i can see exceptions il admit. i have a project that my ultimate goal goes against that completely only that the engine layout is the same across both brands. anyways as long as he enjoys it thats all that really matters
i saw once a E30 with the V12 5.0 liters from the E28 750i.... never forget this monster....
Gollatas ´ for a second i was like "that's not possible, il look it up" and surely enough the V12 fits in there. Only just but that's pretty awesome.
Not everyone is made of money and if you want high hp BMW is not the way to go unless you got deep pockets! If you wanna build a car then build it don't hate on him for building his car his way
Chuck Dennis can you not read the very last line of my comment? I guess you just like bitching dont you
Patrick Pelletier yeah, stroke me like a lightning too. But he opened up the Engine room and there was he.
0-60 4 secs? no way, its gotta be faster than that if its really 800hp... and same HP/Weight ratio as bugatti... its gotta be at least 3.0 secs
This is not a BMW anymore
You are absolutely right, now it's fast.
Rafael Samardzic it just has the bmw emblem 😂
So?
@@gorrestfump1237 a E30 needs a BMW heart and nothing else
@@hallodrie69 Nah you're just butthurt
Hello all, what's the song on the backgrounds ?
aw, those rice tail lights :(
- like that philosophy at 4:40 ...can be applied anywhere in life, for example, last night...
A german car with a Chevy mottor?... why -.- just why...
this car is still mindblowing tho
+Roy Perlstein Because LS motors are easier to boost and more reliable bang-per-buck.
+Roy Perlstein because good luck making that much power out of the stock I6.
Who the fuck calls a child Roy lol
+rockyrobin24 my parents maybe?
Greetings from America. It's nice to see some like minded people with great application of the idea on to this a magnificent car. I to drive AV8 twin Turbo That I pretty much uses a daily when it's not on the race track. Although the wife hates it and it's taken about everything I own it's everything I've always wanted and unfortunately I didn't build it by hand the way you did however I love it none the less and you have exquisite taste. Be safe watch out for the police
There is a reason, why BMW engines won a lot of the "Engine of the year" awards. They are well engineered and designed for usage on daily basis. Now, to everyone yelling, that BMW's suck etc., first off - You can never rate a car, if you are not the one getting it in showroom. You can never determine how it has been used and abused, and abviously, driven crap is driven crap. Almost all German engines are very complicated, and the younger the cars get, the more complicated they become. Tri-Turbo Inline 6. Trying to DIY yourself?
What I wanted to say with this, about no BMW V8 in the car, yes, Murrican engines are the best bang for buck. You can go OEM road, but it requires a lot deeper pockets than taking something commonly and widely avaivable with such an aftermarket support. For example - Dinan, a company that tunes BMW's. Their services are expensive, like, really expensive, cause they took the time to study the engineering of the cars and engines, and they can use this for their own good - there's little to none companies that provide such an extensive modifications list. There's Alpina and G-Power, but they have a little different background with BMW themselves.
lol epic fail, it doesn't have a bmw engine in it, it's a v8 cratemotor hahaha
Martijn Knol Dude, read my comment again. I never stated, that there's a BMW engine there.
+Ralfs Zemzars There is a reason Chevrolet won engine of the year awards too...
They all do. Big deal. So does the F20C from the S2K, won wards 4x in a row but that doesn't stop them being less than reliable when beaten on hard, bores go out of round etc
Best frankenbuild I've ever seen hands down!! Awesome build bro n f*** the people hatin their a dime a dozen but your build is one of kind and that you CAN be proud of.! Great job
sounds like shite for a v8 .. I'm disappointed.
love everything else about the build/journey/the grind.
Simple madness,I love it!
this car is so amazing. im so impressed by his work. i love this car so much. hes not a "regular" guy though. hes a highly educated engineer who has lots of experience and access to equipment. so much respect and love for this car and his work. i got emotional and i cried.
RESPECT dude
The build is ruined by the heavy chevy v8. Should have used a BMW engine - an M60 or M62B44 would have kept it a BMW - right now it's a chevy in E30 clothes. Do not like.
Seriously - I've had a M60B44 in my e30 - it's not that hard to do - and I'm willing to bet a BMW V8 is somewhat cheaper in europe / GB than a chevy engine. The BMW engine is also lighter and has a better HP/liter ratio in N/A form witch would have translated in it's boosted form. Oh and it gets better mileage.
thats your choice of what you would have put in it , not mine! i dont care about keeping it bmw my car ill do what i like with it , as for it being heavy yeah might be but it is actually more balanced now than it was as the engine if further back , i never built it for other people to like it i buit it how i wanted it
but thanks for the input
It is a nice car tough. Great looking too.
Still, why did you go for the chevy engine?Those things are expensive. For that kind of scratch I can get an S85B50 M5 V10 + 6 speed manual (where I live).
+kaneCVR well were I live you can't get one for less than 6k , I built this engine for about 3k , Chevys are a lot cheaper than you think I mean the set of Pistons in this are 4" 8 off and cost me 220 , the whole forged bottom end including a bare block cost me less than 1k, I've been bought up with big v8s and hot rods so I've always liked them plus every one put the bmw v8 in them , why be like everyone else I like doing my own thing 👍🏼
whoa, that's a lot of $$$. I'm from Romania and here a chevy small block will set you back at least 5000 euro, while an early BMW v8 like the M60 or M62 is about 500 euro. As a matter of fact, I'm staring at a local ad witch parts out a totaled E60 M5, and the seller is asking 9000 lei for the engine and gearbox - that's roughly 2000 euro for an S85B50 V10 (cheap for even these parts). Thinking of swapping it into my e30 - the only issue would be bypassing the EWS or somehow incorporating it into my car. Meh - if he the engine turns over and is not physically damaged, I'm getting it :P
Well the v8 makes it unique
God why i Havent watched that earlier. I want this bimmer so badly
Suspension seems to be set up horribly
Car manufacturers should hire you, they'd save millions in R&D if you can tell how a cars suspension feels just from a video. Moron.
When a car is hopping like that, it loses traction, which of course is NOT what you want. On track however, it may be a good setup.
TheCarista. Idiotic comment of the century you fuckin moron. Take a ride in any car with coilovers. Bet you haven't. And I can guarantee you it has better traction than you can fathom.
Damn they on yo head 😂😂😂
A lot of work but terrible suspension, wrong camber, wrong engine. Have a look at e30 v10 from e60 M5.
This is an insult to BMW's. Really, a stupid american engine? Just crap.
Wow. Engine racist
lmao that "stupid" american engine will outlast most other engines.
My 1500Brake horsepower Honda civic will SHIT on that car, in about 1.5 seconds.. Like Dont even try..
To me, as a BMW purist, this is simply disgusting. E30's are becoming rarer, what's left should be preserved. This isn't even a BMW, it's a disgusting bastard build which is utterly tasteless. These cars aren't about HP, its about handling.
On the other hand, kudos to putting effort into the car.
And I'm sitting here feeling challenged by swapping a N/A BMW V8 into an E30...
Please don't call it a BMW. Thanks....
straight up! if u gonna put a v8 atleast put a m60
BMW
Liam Barrington I'm glad you can spell.
+Cartoon Guy thanks mate. Your a gent and a scholar
Liam Barrington "You're" likewise.
Love e30s best car I've ever seen in my life iam so jealous you need a medal my man super job never seen a e30 this powerful this car deserves the power
Great car, legendary car among certain circles, and all home built with an awesome build thread to back it up. This car is badass, looks the part and backs it up. OK the styling is not to everyone's taste but, as always, the owner built it for himself and I think he did a pretty good job...
Would of been better if it was a touring estate but it still looks fantastic and should be very proud of your self a real man's BMW for sure ,
How about a BMW 20d swap? On the British roads, we all know there's nothing faster. I mean, those washing machine salesman need to get up and down the place as quick as they can :-D.
this is all I need in life
Damm thats awesome bro Nice (wonderfull ) job y m in love whit your car !!!!!
No he's fucked it. It should've been the the V10 out of an M5 or M6. Disappointing
+Arya Javaheri Yes but this car sounds shit. And I do think it's important to mod car like this properly
+Simon Clist I agree
That would have been far more expensive really. Chevy v8s are cheap and all around great value. I'm not so sure I agree on the sound part. Do you think the v10 from an m5 would have sounded better? Why does BMW feel the need to pump engine sounds through the speakers of the m5?