Yes really now then it is as if Ireland is the backdoor to Britain; let alone Europe/the EU or indeed anywhere else in the world too I wonder of course?
I got my citizenship through my grandmother, born and died in Ireland, and I feel like it is a way of connecting with her since I never got to meet her or my Grandfather. My dad was always singing Irish songs, and it was so much a part of my upbringing. I'm 3/4 Irish and 1/4 British by ancestry. I'm from the US, and I finally made it to Ireland and felt so at home. Everyone looked like all my uncles and aunts. I'm hoping I will get to live there someday, or at least have a second home because I have grandchildren now. I applied for my passport and it is scheduled to arrive just a month later in April, so that's not too bad of a backlog. I'm so excited and proud to think about entering Ireland as a citizen next time I come. I want to go see where my Grandmother grew up. My cousins already went, and the house is derelict now with vines growing in it, but still so excited. I feel like my Grandmother is truly calling me to come home and see her.
I was born in the UK to an Irish father and British mother, I have an Irish and British passport port, however when traveling even before Brexit l always used my Irish passpot I personally think it has more clout than the uk passport.
My dad grew up in Ireland and moved to the states, New York to be specific in his late teens. I got my Irish passport after my first visit nearly 30 years ago because I just fell in love with Ireland. Been back many times and ironically now work for a Dublin, Ireland based tech company.
Well done. It's a strange fact that an Irish person living in the UK now has more rights than his UK neighbors. Freedom to live and work in the UK without any work permits or visa. Freedom to travel unlimited within the EU. Freedom to travel to work anywhere in the EU. These are but a few that comes to mind.
However, the UK chose to throw away all those benefits- they said they didn't want them! However Ireland did not, so although the freedom of movement between UK and Ireland still exists, and rightly so, the UK citizens that said they don't want freedom of movement with the UK don't get it, whereas the Irish retain their rights to do so. Thank your follow brexiteers!
Luke, my grandmother was borne in Ireland so I also went through the same process as yourself to get my Irish EU passport about 3 years ago. It's well worth the effort! A bonus for me is that I had done family tree research as a hobby for nearly 40 years so had all of the required birth and marriage certificates. I have already travelled to Spain several times using my Irish EU passport.
you put this all very diplomacy. i finally got irish citizenship a couple of months ago and i am now awaiting the passport, which is predicted to be 1st october. i will crack open a can of guinness to celebrate when that comes! all the best
Makes sense to get one, the EU are introducing ETIAS (like ESTA and eTA in the US & Canada) for non-eu citizenship in the next couple of years and having an Irish passport lowers the barriers for you. Neither of my passports (UK and Canada) exempt me from this. And you have no idea what the future has planned for you, always great to have options. I honestly planned on moving to Ireland when the referendum happened but my ties kept me here in Victoria BC for the time being.
Yeah I'm definitely glad to have the Irish passport that's for sure! And you're right, we don't know what the future hold so always good to have options. Ah really? I'd love to visit both Victoria and Vancouver some day soon! :D
I got my Irish citizenship because my father was Irish. it was very straightforward for me obtaining my Irish passport and identity card, I only needed to provide my father birth certificate and my parents marriage certificate and my father death certificate , (my mother was British) both my parents passed away, but I think I only paid €120 in total, that was for the passport and identity card and postage. I applied online directly with Irish passport office and posted copies of the documents. but it took about 4-5 months for me to receive my Irish passport and identity card.. but I guess further the descendent, much more difficult.
Going to Europe on a British passport will start the countdown of 90 days within a 180 day period. You need a visa to stay more than 90 days now. That's why I 'took back control' and got my Irish passport. Easy for me as I qualified on 2 counts.
@@frankpennington You show the passport of the country you enter to that country. So if you leave the UK to go to France (for example) you show your Irish passport to the French, as an Irish passport is an EU passport. When you return you show your UK passport to the British.
@@frankpennington Britain has no passport control checkpoints for departing passengers, so you only show your passport to the airline, and all they're concerned with is whether you'll be let in at the destination (they have to foot the bill to take you back to the UK if you get sent back at the passport check in the destination) and you are the person that the ticket was booked ofr
@Nathan Mcilveen Is it not true that some professional qualifications are ow no longer recognised in the EUROPEAN Union? If that is so it must by extention be more difficult to find a job in E U. Or am I missing something?
@Nathan Mcilveen EU citizenship is now a required qualification for many jobs, just like a driving licence. What you say would be true if a company was based just in the UK, but most large companies are international so have a legal justification for needing staff that are allowed to travel freely to their other offices.
As regards flying into European Union from U K you will be fast tracked with unlimited stay with Irish passport. Unlike those with U K passports who will have to queue up to be quizzed and an expiry date stamped on their Blue passport. They must leave by that date 90 days or else break law. But, you will still go through customs as you have flown from U K. On your return if travelling on U K passport the reverse of above will happen. Except no leave by date on Irish passport if that is presented to U K immigration
Poor auld British expats , sorry immigrants will have to qua in separate areas when traveling about , they won’t like that , but I suppose that what they wanted when they voted Brexit .
@@martinbyrne6643 I didn't vote for Brexit! (I can have a French passport so I'm fine, but still I didn't ask for this, nor did other people not as lucky as me to still have an EU passport)
It seems now then that the only country that Britain will accept indeed is Ireland; although that has been the case I think for a long time too. Other than that, coming to the UK has alas altered since Brexit, which is a shame of course too really is it not?
And I did not vote for Brexit. My late parents liked going to France and I doubt if they would have done so either too, although of course really who knows?
Hi Luke, I’m just at the start of applying through descent on my grandmother’s side. I’ve got a few questions about the certificates that I’m applying for through the government sites. Do they provide the “Long Forms” which are required for application and do they then require authentication via an Apostille office. Or is it a matter of going to an approved professional to sign them off as authentic documents? I hope this makes sense!! Any information that you recall that might help me navigate this would be great. Thanks. H. All the best
I think I have the best of both worlds. I hold American and Irish citizenship. That gives me a lot of access as I travel between the United States and Ireland a couple of times a year. It makes life easy.
I did the same, now a "dual citizen" with both British & Irish (EU) passports. Feels great that you can still have free movement to live & work anywhere in the EU post Brexit.
Me and my partner built ourselves a van with the intention of going traveling in Europe for the year before Brexit. Then COVID struck and we could not make the most of that final year. I'm English born, my Dad was Australian and my Maternal grandparents were Irish, while my mum was born in the UK. This year I needed to come to Australia because my dad passed away. I took my Australian citizenship and got an Australian passport to allow me to give this place a go of living and working here. That leaves me as a dual national with a UK and Australian passport. I am still hoping to be able to spend time living in Europe, so I'm thinking of applying for Irish citizenship by descent and renouncing my British passport as the Irish only accept dual citizens to my knowledge. I'd also be keen to explore Ireland, it seems to be a rugged and beautiful country. Do any of you know if being on an Irish passport will impact me when I choose to live in the UK?
No impact you will be able to live and work in the uk and travel all over the E U and work it the best passport you could get but applying and waiting times will test you
Yes Ireland allows only dual citizenships. But your new Irish passport will allow you to do everything you can already do on your British passport. When you get an Irish passport two advantages kick in - EU membership and all the freedoms that entails, but also the Common Travel Area (CTA) Agreement that exists between Ireland and the UK. The CTA allows British and Irish citizens to live, work and travel freely within each other's countries. With your Irish passport there is no advantage to having a UK passport as all UK freedoms come automatically with an Irish passport.
In Ireland there’s no legal limit to the amount of nationalities that you can hold. So, if you were born in a country other than Ireland and three of your grandparents each came from three other different countries and your fourth grandparent was from Ireland, then technically you could hold five different passports including the Irish passport. And with the Irish passport now being one of the most powerful passports in the world, it’s a big advantage to have one (the U.K. one used to be right up there too before Brexit).
Hi Luke I have a similar situation. My grandfather is Irish and I have recently sent an application away. I wondered how long it took from the moment you sent off all the documents to receiving the Irish passport? Online it says 2 years, is that accurate?
It said 2 years when I did it but I definitely got it in less than 2 years. It probably depends on the amount they are processing, but I would think it would be slightly less than 2 years 😁
I’m a British citizen and I would love to get a Irish citizenship. But Idk if I can get a Irish passport because I don’t know if I have any Irish ancestors. And I really love to move to Poland.
I am from Northern Ireland whilst i see myself as British and Northern Irish i hold a UK and an Irish Passport for practical reasons we are lucky as we dont have to go through the process you do all i had to do was apply for the passport as i was obviously born on the island of Ireland
You can thank the Good Friday Agreement for that. For the first time people born in Northern Ireland could now choose to be defined as Irish or British or both, with both sides of the community gaining automatic entitlement to Irish citizenship should they choose. Even if your DUP refused to endorse the Good Friday Agreement it has brought many benefits to unionists and it is good to see so many sign up for an Irish passport but still be able to retain their free choice to define themselves as British. Enjoy your Irish passport and the many freedoms it brings.
My mum is from Glasgow but has lived in Ireland and married to my dad (who’s Irish) since 1992 and she’s applied for Irish citizenship just to remain “European”. 🇪🇺🇮🇪 She applied several months ago but she’s still waiting for it to come through, there must be a backlog with such a high volume of foreign applicants. Until that happens, she has to rely on her new, ugly, blue British passport. 😝
@@TheLukeRose yeah it takes five years to qualify for Irish citizenship. She never needed to prior to 2020 when both Ireland and the UK were members of the EU.
@@stephenmurphy2212 she was eligible in 1997, it's just that there's a backlog, that's not the time it takes the actual process of applying (hopefully)
@@grassytramtracks yes I know she would’ve been eligible in 1997 but she never needed to apply for an Irish passport up until now because the UK had still been a member of the EU.
If you obtain Irish citizenship by naturalization (time of residence), and a few years later for personal reasons, obtain British citizenship (also by naturalization) would the person have Irish citizenship revoked? Or could I stay with both?
Irish law, and Irish culture, have no problem with dual nationality. As far as I know, there is no legal mechanism whereby Irish nationality can be revoked, unless it was fraudulently obtained.... Certainly, gaining British, or Australian, citizenships would not be legal grounds for revocation. There are many countries which do NOT have this attitude. The Netherlands and Spain are strict, and do not allow dual nationality. Germany does, but only for other EU nationalities, afaik...
Your question suggests you already have a citizenship outside of Irish and British citizenships. You need to be careful therefore because while dual citizenship is allowed in Ireland, a third citizenship is not. Your question also sounds a bit dodgy and your unusual passport application activity would probably come under the radar of the authorities in one or both countries. Passport applications are shared internationally to avoid abuse.
@@gloin10 : Your Irish passport can become classed as "dormant" and can be revoked if you live outside the state of Ireland for more than 7 years and not use the passport in the interim. Be careful about that. There's more information on the topic on the Irish government passport site.
Your Irish passport can become classed as "dormant" and can be revoked if you live outside the state of Ireland for more than 7 years and not use the passport in the interim. Be careful about that. There's more information on the topic on the Irish government passport site.
I'm pretty sure I needed my birth certificate, my mum's birth certificate, my grandad's birth certificate, and also my mum and dad's marriage certificate, and my grandparents' marriage certificate! :D
@@TheLukeRose I'm not sure I can afford to pay for Irish citizenship application because it seems to be expensive and I may not have access to my printer.
@@jesseduodu-owusu6731 It's not an actual "citizenship application" (that's actually something very different, much more expensive and would not apply to most people). If you have a grandparent you need to register yourself on the foreign births register, though it does still cost a few hundred euros (and in effect registers your citizenship which sounds more confusing that it is :-) ).
@@TheLukeRose Do you mean the Foreign Births Register as although that is in effect applying for citizenship, an actual citizenship application is something different?
@@kciparchivetechnically speaking the FBR is a citizenship application because you are never actually considered an Irish citizen up until date of registration, people with Irish parents or those born in Ireland on the otherhand are deemed citizens from birth, people with Irish Grandparents on the otherhand are not and that’s why they have to apply first.
Hi guys, I currently have both Irish and UK passport, i live in Scotland and am wondering if I should even bother to renew my UK passport, I've only recently got my Irish passport so haven't had the chance to travel with it so I'm also confused as to how I should travel when flying to the EU from the Uk, should I just use my Irish passport, should I use my Irish on the way out and the UK for coming back..... Please help me understand my options? Thank you.
@@jom1164thank you for taking the time to answer. 🙂 that's epic, I'm very lucky then to also have a new partner who is polish, so she also and already has a European passport, that along with my 2 kids (having an Irish passport) are her 2 kids ( 1 New Zealand and 1 English but with EU passports) so easipeasi travel for us. 🙂 I'm planning my first trip with my Irish passport, in Jan myself and 3 friends are heading to France on a ski trip, so we land in Geneva and then travel across the border into france, again I guess this is gonna be super easy for me But maybe not so much for my friends, I guess the benefit to me will be limited as I will have to wait on them to go through whatever hurdles they face.
If you travel outside of Europe, i.e parts of Asia a British passport may still be worthwhile, due to more favourable visa requirements, but that's about it.
If you're doing a lot of world travelling, it might be better to keep your British passport. As an ex-imperial power and a much larger country, I expect it has more embassies and consuls around the world. Handy if you're ever in trouble in the back of beyond.
@@52power Because Ireland is NOT an ex-imperial power that is one of the big advantages for him to use his Irish passport and hide his British passport. Ireland also has embassies and consulates in nearly every country of the world. In fact I know of some instances where British friends received better assistance from the local Irish embassy when the a British embassy failed to assist. I worked for over ten years in the Middle East so I have some considerable knowledge of this.
Eireannach..?..if it says that on your passport that word originates from Spain,Aragon actually..(see Flaithri Maolchonaire and Prince of Aragon manuscript)..it means you are recognized as a Spaniard and subject of the Spanish Crown,(see the Cadiz ruling on Irish merchants following Napoleon' failed invasion),the Spanish parliament doesn't recognize it however...weird right.?.. following the Irish Language Act in the UK recently that word is much scrutinized....Subject of two Crowns ,eh??...ouch!
Your wife can get Irish citizenship, and an Irish passport. That is her guaranteed legal right. Sadly, you can only get it by naturalisation, which means at least three years' residence in Ireland, IF your wife has her Irish citizenship AND lives in Ireland with you. Or you can move to Ireland, live here for a minimum of five years, and apply for naturalisation in your own right.
Hi Maureen, Yes you can apply if your grandparents are deceased, you just need to apply to be placed on the foreign births register and then you can apply for a passport.
You should be able to purchase them from the General Register Office. You have to have official copies anyway and not the originals, so you should be able to find online :)
General register office of Northern Ireland you need the LONG birth certificate (I am from Northern Ireland btw and I hold both UK and Irish passports) here is the link you need www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/ordering-life-event-certificates
You can get copies from the various registry offices and it's not too complex or expensive. You will probably need your parents documents as well to show your connection to him but it's easier than it sounds.
Congrats on getting a 2nd passport. One of the guys I work with recently got an Italian passport through his grandparents (both he and his parents are American born) and he was very excited about it. No worries about potential complications of having two passports (unless Ireland has something call double taxation, like the US does, meaning you have to pay tax to that country even if you don't live there, but that's for another discussion). In terms of travel with more than 1 passport, the simple rule is using the passport from whichever country the passport is issued, when you going through that country's passport control. For example, when you fly from London to Madrid, always use your British passport to exit the UK in London (because you're a British citizen) and use your Irish/EU passport when you enter Spain or any other EU countries (because you also hold an EU passport). Do the same on the way back, use Irish/EU passport to exit Spain and British passport to enter the UK. When you travel to another non-EU country, this rule won't apply. It will depend on the actual visa rules that country has for each of your passports. Sometimes one country may require visa for one passport but not the other. If they require (or not) visa for both, then sometimes the costs and actual conditions of stay might be slightly different. So when going to a 3rd country, use whatever makes it easier for you.
@@TheLukeRose and the most important rule of them all is stay consistent. If you enter a passport on one country, stick to the same passport to leave. Never mix them round, you may be treated as an illegal immigrant, and be arrested, interrogated, fined or worse! In some countries, if you show the other passport, that will clear everything up and they'll stop interrogating you, but in some countries it won't
100%. Swapping passports while in transit between countries is entirely normal. Use the passport that gives you best entry rights (for example visa free or native citizen rights) to both enter and exit that same country. Then, while on the plane, boat, or walking between boarder posts, swap to an alternate passport if more convenient for entry to the next country. Never swap passports while staying inside a country, especially so if your passport got stamped on entry.
Sir one of my friend have Swedish passport if he come to Irland 🇮🇪 from Sweden 🇸🇪 is possible to get Irish citizenship passport and then come to Uk 🇬🇧 to live forever in Uk 🇬🇧 without any Uk 🇬🇧 visa ?
I applied for Irish citizenship 2 months ago so I got too wait 10 or 16 more months until I find out,the only thing I didn't do was put in marriage certificates as I was doing it via my grandad and dad's birth certificates and death certificates and my birth certificate,I don't see why a marriage certificate would come in to it unless i was trying to get it through my mum,it is easy to find death certificates and birth certificates but marriage certificates you have to know the year and month and were, 🤞 hopefully 🙏 I will get it the best thing about the birth and death certificates I send were all at the same address
They are VERY thorough. Expect to get a letter telling you to send in the missing forms. I even had to get duplicates of my original birth certificate and ended up getting them all back after I got my passport.
@@pav688 Your birth certificate. Your spouse's birth certificate (if your application is based on marriage to an Irish citizen) Your marriage certificate or civil partnership certificate (if your application is based on marriage to an Irish citizen), My one is based on my dad and his dad not marriage
As far as I'm aware, if you have a grandparent who was born on the island of Ireland (so Northern Ireland included), you should be able to get Irish citizenship just like I did!
I understand that there's a huge increase in applications for Irish Passports from the "Unionist" community in Northern Ireland, particularly the youngsters. All citizens of the 32 counties of Ireland are automatically entitled to an Irish Passport.
I was born in ireland but raised in london my childhood friends who were born in London of irish parentage all chose irish passports not so they could travel freely around Europe but because they were irish and never felt british
Remember to put your double citizenship in your CV, if you work in a field where you could be required to work in the EU. Welcome to EU citizenship as an Irish man. Yes, well, the Irish passport is what you want to travel on into the EU. If you travel on the UK passport, you'll be limited to the 90 days in 180 days rule. You travel on the Irish passport, you will have no limitations, no long queues and questions about why are you coming to the EU. However, because you do not live in Ireland you may not benefit from the EHIC card after your current one expires. That is, you may need to get travel insurance.
Thanks for the welcome! Yes I'm thinking that I will travel on my Irish passport when I fly to the EU, but will definitely get travel insurance just to be sure! Thanks :D
I'm doing this now for exactly the same reasons! Have filled out the form and got all the documents. I am European - part Irish, Luxembourgish and Lithuanian! Degree in French. For all I hate Brexit and how badly is was touted and handled, one good thing for me is it made me go and investigate my family tree. I feel like my Irish passport has saved me from being affected so much by the decision made predominantly by a load of sad old uneducated bastards!
I met many Lithuanian people in Ireland. Jobs seem to be the reason for their move. Almost none of them wanted Irish citizenship and they were surprised at my American dual citizenship with Ireland. I just told them that America was changing in bad ways
If you have a parent who is Irish you can apply on that basis. If not you need a grandparent who was born on the island of Ireland (oversimplified summary) . www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html
Republic of Ireland citizens have done and will always do easy travel to the UK, it is called the Common Travel Area, and it is all down to the historic basis for Ireland. The CTA also applies to the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands too.
hello Luke loved the video I have recently applied for my Irish passport my mammy was born in Ireland. on your Irish passport what does it say your nationality is does it say Irish or British
You need to invest at least 1 million euros in an Irish enterprise for at least three years, or a minimum of 2 million euros in an Irish listed Investment trust. Alternative you might be able to obtain it by donating a minimum of 500000 euros to an Irish charity. None of those methods are guaranteed however.
That is down to the fact of Northern Ireland. That area of the UK caused problems for travel since it's creation in 1921, so back then they decided to end all of that by having a common travel area for all of Ireland to the UK.
@@johnking5174 Not strictly true. The Common Travel Area (CTA) is a MUTUAL agreement and not just of benefit to Irish people as suggested in your comment. British people too can freely live, work and travel within Ireland as a direct benefit of the CTA. There is nothing that Irish people can freely do in Britain that British people can't also freely do in Ireland. It is why there is such a huge contingent of British-born people living permanently in Ireland. Over 250,000 on last count.
It was nice to hear, “Welcome home.” from the Irish passport fellow when I handed in my Irish passport at the Dublin airport. They NEVER do that in America.
@@helenaville5939 : That's not correct. Irish people can vote in British elections but the same does not apply to British citizens living in Ireland. I guess the thinking was British citizens could make more of an impact on Irish elections, because of our small population than Irish citizens could impact British elections. British citizens used to be able to vote in European elections in Ireland but since they decided to quit the EU that no longer applies either.
A very dumb decision that the majority of the British people voted to leave the E.U. I have dual citizenship too and that is U.S. because I was born in the United States, and The Netherlands because both of my parents are Dutch nationals.
@@Johnny-rn5ll Actually it's because of the Common Travel Area. My sister works between UK and Ireland and got her Irish passport after Brexit. She has now decided not to renew her British passport because there is no advantage to having one.
@@helenaville5939 yeah of course if you want to live in the EU (great advantage very nice). but inbetween the UK and Ireland it's essentially one country but it doesn't matter if you travel in and out of Ireland on a UK passport because good Friday agreement means Republic of Ireland=UK
@@Johnny-rn5ll You are confused about the Good Friday Agreement. Like I said in the previous comment it has nothing to do with the Good Friday Agreement. It is due to the CTA (Common Travel Area) Agreement which precedes the GFA. There is nothing in the Good Friday Agreement that grants UK citizens any new freedoms in Ireland (freedoms like travelling, working or living in Ireland). However, the Common Travel Area (CTA Agreement) DOES grant UK citizens the freedom to do those things. And no, Ireland and the UK are not one country. 🙄😂
£200 , ? That's not a lot of money for what an Irish passport gives you! Unfortunately, I'm one set of grandparents too far from being able to apply myself.
You're absolutely right! I was just saying that for people who perhaps can't afford even £200 to apply. I'm grateful to be able to make the most of this, that's for sure! I completely appreciate I'm one of the lucky ones :)
@@TheLukeRose I have paid €278 for the Foreign Birth Registration, £75 for signature witnessing plus about £150 for all the certificates and documents, then it's €130 for the passport, so all in with all the postage costs it's costing me about £700 :( however I feel it's a price worth paying and I feel so privileged to be able to do it!
I got mine in 2013, so needs renewing next year. Back then people asked why I bothered and I didn't know how to explain this feeling I had that it was worth it. My dad was adopted out of Ireland as a baby and my siblings haven't been able to provide the realting documents required, but I was never asked for them. It was easy.
Sounds much easier than proving French citizenship! My mother is French and has a French passport and everything, but France is such a bureaucratic country who don't think you have anything better to do with your life. In front of French bureaucrats, you put on a nice, friendly show, bad then do a classic French expression once they're out of sight and earshot. It will be worth it all, though, as it means I can stay European
I'm one generation out of luck for an Irish passport 😅 and a few generations out of luck for a passport in Sweden or Norway (my great grandparents on my dad's side came from Ireland, Scotland, Sweden and Norway in the 1800s).
As an Irish person I think that's so sad. I know there has to be a cut-off point, but two generations back seems too short. I wish you the best of everything in your life. ☘💚
Applied via decent as Grandad aa Irish. My application was received 5th Nov 2019 and confirmed. Up to now not received citizenship probably covid problems. So be prepared for a long wait.
Oh wow that is such a long wait! I would say that perhaps there is delays because of covid, but you could always email them to check. I'm sure you will get it soon enough though! :D
I'll be doing the same once Ireland start to accept them again, currently stopped due to COVID19. Thankfully the common travel area is still open with ROI
Lucky. COVID delayed my Irish passport by a year and I had to submit another complete application because my first one “expired” while sitting on some desk. Frigging COVID. That was a pain getting everything signed and witnessed again. Plus they had all my original documents.
Mine was delayed to the point that I had to do a second application, but they were doing them once the offices opened again. It did take a year though.
@@pav688 I sent mine off last year. Just in Spain for 4 weeks then back to UK to wait for it to arrive to arrive then moving back and getting residency
@@TheLukeRose Thanks for that, I will try and email them, I have 7 of my 8 great grandparents born in Ireland and the 8th half Irish, so I have more Irish blood in me than many Irish. I keep in touch with many of my relatives in the old country, enjoyed your video.
Hi mate. I also had two grandparents born south of Dublin circa early 1900. They died a coup,e of years before I was born in early 70’s but even tho they weren’t alive when I came along do you think I’d still be eligible? Thanks
Hi Tommy :) I don't know for 100% but I can't see why you wouldn't be eligible just because they weren't alive when you were born, so I think you should be fine!
Yes. You will need all the paperwork to prove what you are saying, but you only need to prove it for one grand parent. You have two shots at.... Best of luck.
Yes, whether they were alive or not when you were born is immaterial to your application. It sounds like you should not have any problems and, as another commenter wrote, you are one of the lucky ones because you get two shots at it. In other words if you run into problems finding the required documents for one grandparent you can always try the other. You need only produce documents for one. Best of luck! 👍☘
Welcome! But not so happy it took maybe a year and Euro300 - wow, you are aware that's astronomic quick and severely inexpensive. Likely most other places with just a grandfather - even if possible, likely many years and Euro1000s.
You know that having an Irish passport in the UK gives you more rights than a UK citizen, right? :-) Seriously, since you have full EU rights and full UK rights already.
I don’t accept the vote and you shouldn’t either. Most British people are not as lucky as you. You need to make sure that you vote for a pro EU party at the next general election so we can rejoin the EU.
I was frustrated for a long time about the vote, so it wasn't just something I accepted overnight. I completely agree with you, I know how lucky I am to have the Irish passport. Pro-EU is definitely something I look for in a party, so as long as I agree with the majority of that party's other polices, they will get my vote :)
£200-300 is a LOT OF MONEY for freedom? Well done nevertheless. We are French🇫🇷. Always travel on your Irish passport. QED. We will travel into UK for a weekend on our British passports, and travel back on our French passports. Only 32 years in France.. 60 next month so can't remember Engerlund, because we left in 1986.
Well I suppose it might be a lot of money to some people who perhaps can’t afford it 😅 Thanks for your comment! Happy to hear you have made a good life in France! ☺️
@@TheLukeRose Thanks and good luck to you. It was a lot of paperwork but you will NEVER regret it. Be happy and be free. My childhood sweetheart and I bought our house when we were 25 and moved to France permanently when we were 28. Still together and in love. We came from a council estate comprehensive but the French banks welcomed us with open arms (we WERE working in Saudi Arabia 🤣). Don't let ANYONE get in your way 🌈.
@@andrewrobinson2565 Ah that’s such an amazing story! ❤️ So happy for you both! I definitely plan on being as happy and free as I can ☺️ Thanks so much!
@@TheLukeRose In an ideal world passports would not be needed. Imagine what even the normal cost of any passport could buy - a nice meal with friends, a full tank of petrol, a new microwave oven or something else essential. It is a lot of money no matter if you're rich or poor. However since we don't live in that ideal world it's an investment and insurance in your future, which would seem to be money well spent.
I'm applying for mine & it's an easy question for me because the UK has left the E.U & the British passport holders will have to pay taxes & vats & Ireland is in E.U. So lucky for me & not so lucky with my mates 😂
@@vincentmckenna1755 Presumably because he lives in the UK? What a strange question. Also almost nobody is moving anywhere at the moment until the covid situation calms down a bit.
France is a nightmare of bureaucracy, but because my mother is French, I'm a French citizen and can get a French passport, the reward will be worth the effort: The right to live and work in any EU or EFTA country, and breeze through the EU citizens' queue
haha. me too. born/raised in nyc. already have the passport. also a house in ireland via my father. will be retiring there. tired of the american experiment gone wrong, sadly. america was a great country when it was european, but now that it's mostly latin and asian it's total crap. real talk people. real talk.
You are not the only one, but look into everything you will lose if yo Renounce your US citizenship before you do that. It does have a heavy cost. I’m keeping my US citizenship
In the New EU bio data of person and both parents are on passport identify documents, all born in EU have a right to live and work. It is possible had the people from former EU state been made aware Brexit may not have happened. It is to late now, as in the New EU bio data of person and both parents all born in EU.
I live in the US they should make it easier for us both of my parents are Scottish Irish and British and we should just be able to do DNA.... We should be able to go to Ireland for Scotland do our DNA fill out paperwork about our family tree and be accepted right then and there..... There should not be a huge mess of paperwork
You don’t do DNA to get citizenship, you need a parent or grandparent who was Irish. In the case of the UK they are less generous and you can’t get British citizenship at all with a British Born Grandparent.
@@pav688 I rather not have either to be fair, would prefer a Latin American passport or one from the likes of Singapore or Japan, not ones of western shitholes such as EUrinal, the UK or the US !
@@TheLukeRose I am Irish and can assure you that it's not true. I never heard of it and I am living in Ireland for over 50 years. These videos on Irish passports attract some trolls who probably hate that they can't get one. Ignore them.
I've looked at this but realised it's a reality the UK, even Ireland, may no longer accepts dual passports in the not so distant future. Other EU member states do this.
Not true. There’s an exemption for Irish citizens in terms of dual nationality and residence in the Uk for obvious reasons. That being the troubles, shared history etc
@@pav688 you don’t know anything do you? The Irish are always exempt from immigration control in THe Uk .and dual citizenship between will be allowed in the Uk if you are Irish .
Thanks to the Irish football team needing players from around the world to play for the team they allow people to be eligible if the have an Irish grandparent Haha hence your eligibility lol. There is still freedom of movement for uk and Irish people between both countries so coming back to the Uk with an Irish passport will be no problem. Congratulations the more options the more opportunities ✌
Hahaha I sadly don't think I'm good enough at football to join the Irish team! But yes, very glad at keeping the opportunities I had before. Thanks! :D
@@TheLukeRose I think u might be good enough, have u looked at any of there games lately , there a right bunch of wallies , wouldn’t kick snow off a rope , get your boot out we will give u a try 😄
That is not why the grandparent rule exists. It exists for the same reason the parent rule exists, so Irish families that have a baby abroad can return home and not find themselves stuck abroad or separated from their children (it's a common rule not just for Ireland). The grandparent part (which is also similar to a lot of countries) is because grandparents often need to look after their grandchildren in the event a parent dies.
Irish passports should be denied to all who are not born, educated or live at least 5 years in Ireland. Crazy to gift opportunistic foreigners the privilege of an Irish passport, regardless of whether or not they had a granny from Kinvara, Cahersiveen, Doneraile or Inís Mheáin.
@@johnking5174don’t mind if their parents are Irish, but not their grandparents, that in my opinion shouldn’t qualify without a period of residency attached.
Protect, and defend the little country that is so generous in offering its citizenship to you.
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Yes,God Bless Ireland,& its people,my parents,& my extended family.Amen.
For the great Gaels of Ireland 👐👐
Yes really now then it is as if Ireland is the backdoor to Britain; let alone Europe/the EU or indeed anywhere else in the world too I wonder of course?
Odd though that is too in a way as such?
I got my citizenship through my grandmother, born and died in Ireland, and I feel like it is a way of connecting with her since I never got to meet her or my Grandfather. My dad was always singing Irish songs, and it was so much a part of my upbringing. I'm 3/4 Irish and 1/4 British by ancestry. I'm from the US, and I finally made it to Ireland and felt so at home. Everyone looked like all my uncles and aunts. I'm hoping I will get to live there someday, or at least have a second home because I have grandchildren now. I applied for my passport and it is scheduled to arrive just a month later in April, so that's not too bad of a backlog. I'm so excited and proud to think about entering Ireland as a citizen next time I come. I want to go see where my Grandmother grew up. My cousins already went, and the house is derelict now with vines growing in it, but still so excited. I feel like my Grandmother is truly calling me to come home and see her.
I was born in the UK to an Irish father and British mother, I have an Irish and British passport port, however when traveling even before Brexit l always used my Irish passpot I personally think it has more clout than the uk passport.
My dad grew up in Ireland and moved to the states, New York to be specific in his late teens. I got my Irish passport after my first visit nearly 30 years ago because I just fell in love with Ireland. Been back many times and ironically now work for a Dublin, Ireland based tech company.
Well done. It's a strange fact that an Irish person living in the UK now has more rights than his UK neighbors. Freedom to live and work in the UK without any work permits or visa.
Freedom to travel unlimited within the EU. Freedom to travel to work anywhere in the EU. These are but a few that comes to mind.
Yes that’s true, I’m very grateful for the the opportunities I have now in both the U.K. and the EU. Thank you! ☺️
However, the UK chose to throw away all those benefits- they said they didn't want them!
However Ireland did not, so although the freedom of movement between UK and Ireland still exists, and rightly so, the UK citizens that said they don't want freedom of movement with the UK don't get it, whereas the Irish retain their rights to do so.
Thank your follow brexiteers!
@@Plantified Who said they didn't want them? No one, I think you'll find.
@@rufusreloaded1043 well that was what you signed up for if you put a cross in the box saying leave in 2016
@@grassytramtracks I voted Remain. I'm Irish too. So I did no such thing.
Luke, my grandmother was borne in Ireland so I also went through the same process as yourself to get my Irish EU passport about 3 years ago. It's well worth the effort!
A bonus for me is that I had done family tree research as a hobby for nearly 40 years so had all of the required birth and marriage certificates.
I have already travelled to Spain several times using my Irish EU passport.
Sorry for the late reply, but so glad you were able to get one too! So nice travelling on it, isn't it? :D
@@TheLukeRose it is!
Welcome to the Irish nation!
@@TheLukeRose the best was showing my Irish passport in Dublin customs and being told,
”Welcome home”
Keeping doors open in life is a wise decission. Just in case! One never knows! Well done!
Exactly! Thanks so much! :D
Being English is now considered meh, Being irish is considered stellar these days.
Even some hard Unionists in N Ireland are applying for an Irish passport.
@@williampatrickfagan7590 Wow, now that is news.
Ireland is nothing without its EU membership.
@@royty2353
What is the U K? Powerful
@@royty2353 Better nothing than a state with blood and genocide on it's hands like Britain
I'm happy for you bro. Enjoy the benefits of being a European citizen 🇪🇺🇮🇪
Thanks! 😁
Absolutely
All you have to do now is find out where Ireland is.
Haha I've been there before so I know where it is :D
you put this all very diplomacy. i finally got irish citizenship a couple of months ago and i am now awaiting the passport, which is predicted to be 1st october. i will crack open a can of guinness to celebrate when that comes! all the best
Did you get your passport or are there still delays?
@@taintabird23 Yes I got my passport a couple of months ago. It did take a long time but worth the wait
@@simonvanderirwin Welcome to the Irish nation!
I hope you opened a bottle of top French Champagne, not just a simple can of Guinness. @simonvanderirwin
Makes sense to get one, the EU are introducing ETIAS (like ESTA and eTA in the US & Canada) for non-eu citizenship in the next couple of years and having an Irish passport lowers the barriers for you. Neither of my passports (UK and Canada) exempt me from this.
And you have no idea what the future has planned for you, always great to have options. I honestly planned on moving to Ireland when the referendum happened but my ties kept me here in Victoria BC for the time being.
Yeah I'm definitely glad to have the Irish passport that's for sure! And you're right, we don't know what the future hold so always good to have options. Ah really? I'd love to visit both Victoria and Vancouver some day soon! :D
I got my Irish citizenship because my father was Irish. it was very straightforward for me obtaining my Irish passport and identity card, I only needed to provide my father birth certificate and my parents marriage certificate and my father death certificate , (my mother was British) both my parents passed away, but I think I only paid €120 in total, that was for the passport and identity card and postage. I applied online directly with Irish passport office and posted copies of the documents. but it took about 4-5 months for me to receive my Irish passport and identity card.. but I guess further the descendent, much more difficult.
Identity Card? I only got a Irish passport. Did I miss something?
@@pav688 yes, you can also get Irish passport type identity card also. think it’s about €25 more with the identity card with passport cost
Going to Europe on a British passport will start the countdown of 90 days within a 180 day period. You need a visa to stay more than 90 days now. That's why I 'took back control' and got my Irish passport. Easy for me as I qualified on 2 counts.
That’s true! Better with the Irish passport 🙌 Glad you got yours! 😄
So do you use your Irish passport when leaving uk?
@@frankpennington Always, showing a British passport now is just embarrassing.
@@frankpennington You show the passport of the country you enter to that country. So if you leave the UK to go to France (for example) you show your Irish passport to the French, as an Irish passport is an EU passport. When you return you show your UK passport to the British.
@@frankpennington Britain has no passport control checkpoints for departing passengers, so you only show your passport to the airline, and all they're concerned with is whether you'll be let in at the destination (they have to foot the bill to take you back to the UK if you get sent back at the passport check in the destination) and you are the person that the ticket was booked ofr
Your employability has just shot up.
Always a good thing, that's for sure :)
@Nathan Mcilveen If you need a work permit it will put you at a disadvantage.
@Nathan Mcilveen Is it not true that some professional qualifications are ow no longer recognised in the EUROPEAN Union?
If that is so it must by extention be more difficult to find a job in E U.
Or am I missing something?
@Nathan Mcilveen EU citizenship is now a required qualification for many jobs, just like a driving licence. What you say would be true if a company was based just in the UK, but most large companies are international so have a legal justification for needing staff that are allowed to travel freely to their other offices.
@@williampatrickfagan7590 The qualifications thing is separate from citizenship, but yes many UK qualifications are now no longer recognised abroad.
As regards flying into European Union from U K you will be fast tracked with unlimited stay with Irish passport. Unlike those with U K passports who will have to queue up to be quizzed and an expiry date stamped on their Blue passport. They must leave by that date 90 days or else break law.
But, you will still go through customs as you have flown from U K.
On your return if travelling on U K passport the reverse of above will happen. Except no leave by date on Irish passport if that is presented to U K immigration
Ah thanks for this! Really helpful to know! :)
Poor auld British expats , sorry immigrants will have to qua in separate areas when traveling about , they won’t like that , but I suppose that what they wanted when they voted Brexit .
@@martinbyrne6643 I didn't vote for Brexit! (I can have a French passport so I'm fine, but still I didn't ask for this, nor did other people not as lucky as me to still have an EU passport)
It seems now then that the only country that Britain will accept indeed is Ireland; although that has been the case I think for a long time too. Other than that, coming to the UK has alas altered since Brexit, which is a shame of course too really is it not?
And I did not vote for Brexit. My late parents liked going to France and I doubt if they would have done so either too, although of course really who knows?
Now that u have it ‘ u need to know all about Irish history and culture ‘ visit here often and spend your money here as well ‘ buy Irish ☘️
Yes I’ve been before and will definitely be going back! 😁🙌
@@conorjames8793 no , why should I .
If I was born in the Uk, how long do i need to stay in Ireland for before I can get the EU passport
Hi Luke, I’m just at the start of applying through descent on my grandmother’s side. I’ve got a few questions about the certificates that I’m applying for through the government sites. Do they provide the “Long Forms” which are required for application and do they then require authentication via an Apostille office. Or is it a matter of going to an approved professional to sign them off as authentic documents? I hope this makes sense!! Any information that you recall that might help me navigate this would be great. Thanks.
H.
All the best
I think I have the best of both worlds. I hold American and Irish citizenship. That gives me a lot of access as I travel between the United States and Ireland a couple of times a year. It makes life easy.
I did the same, now a "dual citizen" with both British & Irish (EU) passports.
Feels great that you can still have free movement to live & work anywhere in the EU post Brexit.
Me and my partner built ourselves a van with the intention of going traveling in Europe for the year before Brexit. Then COVID struck and we could not make the most of that final year.
I'm English born, my Dad was Australian and my Maternal grandparents were Irish, while my mum was born in the UK.
This year I needed to come to Australia because my dad passed away. I took my Australian citizenship and got an Australian passport to allow me to give this place a go of living and working here. That leaves me as a dual national with a UK and Australian passport.
I am still hoping to be able to spend time living in Europe, so I'm thinking of applying for Irish citizenship by descent and renouncing my British passport as the Irish only accept dual citizens to my knowledge. I'd also be keen to explore Ireland, it seems to be a rugged and beautiful country.
Do any of you know if being on an Irish passport will impact me when I choose to live in the UK?
No impact you will be able to live and work in the uk and travel all over the E U and work it the best passport you could get but applying and waiting times will test you
Yes Ireland allows only dual citizenships. But your new Irish passport will allow you to do everything you can already do on your British passport. When you get an Irish passport two advantages kick in - EU membership and all the freedoms that entails, but also the Common Travel Area (CTA) Agreement that exists between Ireland and the UK. The CTA allows British and Irish citizens to live, work and travel freely within each other's countries. With your Irish passport there is no advantage to having a UK passport as all UK freedoms come automatically with an Irish passport.
No, the common travel area is a deal between Britain & Ireland allows you to live in both countries.You can be a tri national
In Ireland there’s no legal limit to the amount of nationalities that you can hold. So, if you were born in a country other than Ireland and three of your grandparents each came from three other different countries and your fourth grandparent was from Ireland, then technically you could hold five different passports including the Irish passport. And with the Irish passport now being one of the most powerful passports in the world, it’s a big advantage to have one (the U.K. one used to be right up there too before Brexit).
Hi Luke I have a similar situation. My grandfather is Irish and I have recently sent an application away. I wondered how long it took from the moment you sent off all the documents to receiving the Irish passport? Online it says 2 years, is that accurate?
@Lean Mean Cleaning Machine thank you
It said 2 years when I did it but I definitely got it in less than 2 years. It probably depends on the amount they are processing, but I would think it would be slightly less than 2 years 😁
Hi Jack It took one year from applying to receiving, it's worth the wait.
14 Million British people have Irish blood in them!!!!!
The Irish are everywhere
I’m a British citizen and I would love to get a Irish citizenship. But Idk if I can get a Irish passport because I don’t know if I have any Irish ancestors. And I really love to move to Poland.
You need to contact the Amadán office in Dublin. You should have little difficulty finding contact details.
If you’re not an Irish citizen even one born abroad you can’t get a passport.
I am from Northern Ireland whilst i see myself as British and Northern Irish i hold a UK and an Irish Passport for practical reasons we are lucky as we dont have to go through the process you do all i had to do was apply for the passport as i was obviously born on the island of Ireland
You can thank the Good Friday Agreement for that. For the first time people born in Northern Ireland could now choose to be defined as Irish or British or both, with both sides of the community gaining automatic entitlement to Irish citizenship should they choose. Even if your DUP refused to endorse the Good Friday Agreement it has brought many benefits to unionists and it is good to see so many sign up for an Irish passport but still be able to retain their free choice to define themselves as British. Enjoy your Irish passport and the many freedoms it brings.
People born on the island of Ireland, North or South, are granted Irish citizenship, automatically, since the Treaty of 1922.
My mum is from Glasgow but has lived in Ireland and married to my dad (who’s Irish) since 1992 and she’s applied for Irish citizenship just to remain “European”. 🇪🇺🇮🇪
She applied several months ago but she’s still waiting for it to come through, there must be a backlog with such a high volume of foreign applicants. Until that happens, she has to rely on her new, ugly, blue British passport. 😝
Gosh that's a long wait! I wouldn't be surprised if there is a backlog yes. Hopefully it comes through soon! :D
@@TheLukeRose yeah it takes five years to qualify for Irish citizenship. She never needed to prior to 2020 when both Ireland and the UK were members of the EU.
@@stephenmurphy2212 she was eligible in 1997, it's just that there's a backlog, that's not the time it takes the actual process of applying (hopefully)
@@grassytramtracks yes I know she would’ve been eligible in 1997 but she never needed to apply for an Irish passport up until now because the UK had still been a member of the EU.
Thankfully I’m a dual citizen British Greek so thankfully because of the Greek passport I keep my European rights 😊
That's great to hear! :D
On Swedish passport how to get Irish citizenship i mean passport in Irland 🇮🇪 i mean how to change into Irish passport?
If you obtain Irish citizenship by naturalization (time of residence), and a few years later for personal reasons, obtain British citizenship (also by naturalization) would the person have Irish citizenship revoked? Or could I stay with both?
Irish law, and Irish culture, have no problem with dual nationality.
As far as I know, there is no legal mechanism whereby Irish nationality can be revoked, unless it was fraudulently obtained....
Certainly, gaining British, or Australian, citizenships would not be legal grounds for revocation.
There are many countries which do NOT have this attitude. The Netherlands and Spain are strict, and do not allow dual nationality. Germany does, but only for other EU nationalities, afaik...
Your question suggests you already have a citizenship outside of Irish and British citizenships. You need to be careful therefore because while dual citizenship is allowed in Ireland, a third citizenship is not. Your question also sounds a bit dodgy and your unusual passport application activity would probably come under the radar of the authorities in one or both countries. Passport applications are shared internationally to avoid abuse.
@@gloin10 : Your Irish passport can become classed as "dormant" and can be revoked if you live outside the state of Ireland for more than 7 years and not use the passport in the interim. Be careful about that. There's more information on the topic on the Irish government passport site.
Your Irish passport can become classed as "dormant" and can be revoked if you live outside the state of Ireland for more than 7 years and not use the passport in the interim. Be careful about that. There's more information on the topic on the Irish government passport site.
Can I ask what documents you needed for your grandparents, is it birth cert, marriage cert, and same for parent ?
I'm pretty sure I needed my birth certificate, my mum's birth certificate, my grandad's birth certificate, and also my mum and dad's marriage certificate, and my grandparents' marriage certificate! :D
Hi Luke, this is Jesse speaking. Do you have to apply for Irish citizenship before you can apply for an Irish passport as a British citizen?
Hi Jesse, yes I did have to apply for Irish citizenship first :)
@@TheLukeRose I'm not sure I can afford to pay for Irish citizenship application because it seems to be expensive and I may not have access to my printer.
@@jesseduodu-owusu6731 It's not an actual "citizenship application" (that's actually something very different, much more expensive and would not apply to most people). If you have a grandparent you need to register yourself on the foreign births register, though it does still cost a few hundred euros (and in effect registers your citizenship which sounds more confusing that it is :-) ).
@@TheLukeRose Do you mean the Foreign Births Register as although that is in effect applying for citizenship, an actual citizenship application is something different?
@@kciparchivetechnically speaking the FBR is a citizenship application because you are never actually considered an Irish citizen up until date of registration, people with Irish parents or those born in Ireland on the otherhand are deemed citizens from birth, people with Irish Grandparents on the otherhand are not and that’s why they have to apply first.
Hi guys, I currently have both Irish and UK passport, i live in Scotland and am wondering if I should even bother to renew my UK passport, I've only recently got my Irish passport so haven't had the chance to travel with it so I'm also confused as to how I should travel when flying to the EU from the Uk, should I just use my Irish passport, should I use my Irish on the way out and the UK for coming back.....
Please help me understand my options?
Thank you.
@@jom1164thank you for taking the time to answer. 🙂
that's epic, I'm very lucky then to also have a new partner who is polish, so she also and already has a European passport, that along with my 2 kids (having an Irish passport) are her 2 kids ( 1 New Zealand and 1 English but with EU passports) so easipeasi travel for us. 🙂
I'm planning my first trip with my Irish passport, in Jan myself and 3 friends are heading to France on a ski trip, so we land in Geneva and then travel across the border into france, again I guess this is gonna be super easy for me
But maybe not so much for my friends, I guess the benefit to me will be limited as I will have to wait on them to go through whatever hurdles they face.
If you travel outside of Europe, i.e parts of Asia a British passport may still be worthwhile, due to more favourable visa requirements, but that's about it.
If you're doing a lot of world travelling, it might be better to keep your British passport. As an ex-imperial power and a much larger country, I expect it has more embassies and consuls around the world. Handy if you're ever in trouble in the back of beyond.
@@52power Because Ireland is NOT an ex-imperial power that is one of the big advantages for him to use his Irish passport and hide his British passport. Ireland also has embassies and consulates in nearly every country of the world. In fact I know of some instances where British friends received better assistance from the local Irish embassy when the a British embassy failed to assist. I worked for over ten years in the Middle East so I have some considerable knowledge of this.
Clever idea no one want to be stuck when traveling thanks for sharing
Eireannach..?..if it says that on your passport that word originates from Spain,Aragon actually..(see Flaithri Maolchonaire and Prince of Aragon manuscript)..it means you are recognized as a Spaniard and subject of the Spanish Crown,(see the Cadiz ruling on Irish merchants following Napoleon' failed invasion),the Spanish parliament doesn't recognize it however...weird right.?.. following the Irish Language Act in the UK recently that word is much scrutinized....Subject of two Crowns ,eh??...ouch!
Just found out my wife's grandad was Irish. Should we get a solicitor to handle the process? Great vid
It's not a very complicated process, only time consuming if you don't have the necessary birth certificates
Your wife can get Irish citizenship, and an Irish passport. That is her guaranteed legal right.
Sadly, you can only get it by naturalisation, which means at least three years' residence in Ireland, IF your wife has her Irish citizenship AND lives in Ireland with you.
Or you can move to Ireland, live here for a minimum of five years, and apply for naturalisation in your own right.
Im British. Can `I still get one if my Irish grandparents are dead?
Hi Maureen, Yes you can apply if your grandparents are deceased, you just need to apply to be placed on the foreign births register and then you can apply for a passport.
When you say that you’re British, are you English, Scottish or Welsh?
My grandpa was Northen Irish(died before I was born),but how the hell do I get his birth certificate marriage certificate,death certificate etc?
You should be able to purchase them from the General Register Office. You have to have official copies anyway and not the originals, so you should be able to find online :)
General register office of Northern Ireland you need the LONG birth certificate (I am from Northern Ireland btw and I hold both UK and Irish passports) here is the link you need www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/ordering-life-event-certificates
You can get copies from the various registry offices and it's not too complex or expensive. You will probably need your parents documents as well to show your connection to him but it's easier than it sounds.
@@TheLukeRose you have to write/apply for them.
Congrats on getting a 2nd passport. One of the guys I work with recently got an Italian passport through his grandparents (both he and his parents are American born) and he was very excited about it. No worries about potential complications of having two passports (unless Ireland has something call double taxation, like the US does, meaning you have to pay tax to that country even if you don't live there, but that's for another discussion). In terms of travel with more than 1 passport, the simple rule is using the passport from whichever country the passport is issued, when you going through that country's passport control. For example, when you fly from London to Madrid, always use your British passport to exit the UK in London (because you're a British citizen) and use your Irish/EU passport when you enter Spain or any other EU countries (because you also hold an EU passport). Do the same on the way back, use Irish/EU passport to exit Spain and British passport to enter the UK. When you travel to another non-EU country, this rule won't apply. It will depend on the actual visa rules that country has for each of your passports. Sometimes one country may require visa for one passport but not the other. If they require (or not) visa for both, then sometimes the costs and actual conditions of stay might be slightly different. So when going to a 3rd country, use whatever makes it easier for you.
Ah thanks for this! Very helpful to know so I appreciate it :)
@@TheLukeRose and the most important rule of them all is stay consistent. If you enter a passport on one country, stick to the same passport to leave. Never mix them round, you may be treated as an illegal immigrant, and be arrested, interrogated, fined or worse! In some countries, if you show the other passport, that will clear everything up and they'll stop interrogating you, but in some countries it won't
100%. Swapping passports while in transit between countries is entirely normal. Use the passport that gives you best entry rights (for example visa free or native citizen rights) to both enter and exit that same country. Then, while on the plane, boat, or walking between boarder posts, swap to an alternate passport if more convenient for entry to the next country. Never swap passports while staying inside a country, especially so if your passport got stamped on entry.
Sir one of my friend have Swedish passport if he come to Irland 🇮🇪 from Sweden 🇸🇪 is possible to get Irish citizenship passport and then come to Uk 🇬🇧 to live forever in Uk 🇬🇧 without any Uk 🇬🇧 visa ?
What's the connection to Ireland?
Short answer - NO.
@@CelticSeer ru joking 😂
Can someone get it through marriage ?? And after how many years of marriage???
I would imagine you can, but I don't know much about how that would work, sorry!
No. A spouse must be resident in Ireland for 5 years and then apply for naturalisation in their own right.
With irish passport i could work uk without visa
Yes
I applied for Irish citizenship 2 months ago so I got too wait 10 or 16 more months until I find out,the only thing I didn't do was put in marriage certificates as I was doing it via my grandad and dad's birth certificates and death certificates and my birth certificate,I don't see why a marriage certificate would come in to it unless i was trying to get it through my mum,it is easy to find death certificates and birth certificates but marriage certificates you have to know the year and month and were,
🤞 hopefully 🙏 I will get it the best thing about the birth and death certificates I send were all at the same address
They are VERY thorough. Expect to get a letter telling you to send in the missing forms. I even had to get duplicates of my original birth certificate and ended up getting them all back after I got my passport.
@@pav688 Your birth certificate.
Your spouse's birth certificate (if your application is based on marriage to an Irish citizen)
Your marriage certificate or civil partnership certificate (if your application is based on marriage to an Irish citizen),
My one is based on my dad and his dad not marriage
Don’t worry…they will ask for them
@@pav688 Well here’s a up date I was right and got my citizenship 5 weeks ago without any marriage certificate and now waiting both passports
Do you know if I would qualify for an Irish passport if I am of Northern Irish decent?
As far as I'm aware, if you have a grandparent who was born on the island of Ireland (so Northern Ireland included), you should be able to get Irish citizenship just like I did!
yes you can if you have a relative born on the Island of Ireland
yes,also you dont need to give up your UK passport you can be dual
Yes. My mom is from Belfast and I got my passport. Irish is Irish as long as they were Irsh
I understand that there's a huge increase in applications for Irish Passports from the "Unionist" community in Northern Ireland, particularly the youngsters. All citizens of the 32 counties of Ireland are automatically entitled to an Irish Passport.
I was born in ireland but raised in london my childhood friends who were born in London of irish parentage all chose irish passports not so they could travel freely around Europe but because they were irish and never felt british
Remember to put your double citizenship in your CV, if you work in a field where you could be required to work in the EU.
Welcome to EU citizenship as an Irish man.
Yes, well, the Irish passport is what you want to travel on into the EU. If you travel on the UK passport, you'll be limited to the 90 days in 180 days rule. You travel on the Irish passport, you will have no limitations, no long queues and questions about why are you coming to the EU.
However, because you do not live in Ireland you may not benefit from the EHIC card after your current one expires. That is, you may need to get travel insurance.
Thanks for the welcome! Yes I'm thinking that I will travel on my Irish passport when I fly to the EU, but will definitely get travel insurance just to be sure! Thanks :D
I'm doing this now for exactly the same reasons! Have filled out the form and got all the documents. I am European - part Irish, Luxembourgish and Lithuanian! Degree in French. For all I hate Brexit and how badly is was touted and handled, one good thing for me is it made me go and investigate my family tree. I feel like my Irish passport has saved me from being affected so much by the decision made predominantly by a load of sad old uneducated bastards!
Oh wow, what an interesting mix! Love that :D I'm so glad you were able to get the Irish passport, it will be so beneficial for you to have!
I met many Lithuanian people in Ireland. Jobs seem to be the reason for their move. Almost none of them wanted Irish citizenship and they were surprised at my American dual citizenship with Ireland. I just told them that America was changing in bad ways
I am of Irish decent. I feel they got a really poor deal out of Brexit. I'm not anti European. But, would like dual nationality. Where should I apply?
If you have a parent who is Irish you can apply on that basis. If not you need a grandparent who was born on the island of Ireland (oversimplified summary)
. www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html
Department of foreign affairs, Irish government
It only took a year to get back your paperwork from FBR? I'm going on 20 months and they just started processing my App.
yeah, covid meant there was a halt in processing
Irish passport holders can move in uk? After Brexit
I think so! :)
Republic of Ireland citizens have done and will always do easy travel to the UK, it is called the Common Travel Area, and it is all down to the historic basis for Ireland. The CTA also applies to the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands too.
hello Luke loved the video I have recently applied for my Irish passport my mammy was born in Ireland. on your Irish passport what does it say your nationality is does it say Irish or British
Sorry for the late reply! On the Irish passport, I'm sure it just says my nationality is Irish :)
@@TheLukeRose no worries. thank you the reply
Mine says Irish
It has your birth place. Nationality as Irish though
Under a 1000 pounds is a bargain for a European Passport.
Look how much non Europeans spend on a Maltese Passport.
Also you get to be Irish so it's a double win. :-)
You're absolutely right, it was definitely worth it! :)
Hi Luke, thank you for sharing this. My great grandad was born in Belfast can I qualify? Xx
No. He is a brit. I'm a yank but my mother was born in ulster and dad in the republic. i have dual citizeship thru me dad.
@@magamaga1827 Northern Irish people can get an Eire passport!
@@Clare-ug7fq but great-grandchildren of Irish, whether NI or ROI not born there, can't
@@brunolondinese5857 I was replying to Maga Maga's comment. I have given up now anyway, thank you.
@@brunolondinese5857 my other option is to move to Ireland.
Hello everyone does 4 pentaly points effect irish naturalisation
Thank you
You have to have more. Sorry
If your parents are divorced do you need to still provide their marriage certificate?
Sorry for the late reply, but yes I think so! Not 100% sure though :)
Probably, yes.
I want to be irish, but non of my family are irish at all, i wasnt born their! Can i still get irish citzenship
You need to invest at least 1 million euros in an Irish enterprise for at least three years, or a minimum of 2 million euros in an Irish listed Investment trust. Alternative you might be able to obtain it by donating a minimum of 500000 euros to an Irish charity. None of those methods are guaranteed however.
@Nathan Mcilveen It's still listed for 2021 on many (presumably dodgy) sites, but you're right I can't find it on the official DFA site.
I'm looking for a loving but submissive partner. I'll give you Irish passport 3 years after our wedding vows
@Nathan Mcilveen only a sham if they don't put out. I'm in it for the long run ;)
No because there is a language test there.
Irish citizens are so lucky. They are the only citizens automatically exempt from immigration control besides British citizens in the UK
You're right! :D
That is down to the fact of Northern Ireland. That area of the UK caused problems for travel since it's creation in 1921, so back then they decided to end all of that by having a common travel area for all of Ireland to the UK.
@@johnking5174 Not strictly true. The Common Travel Area (CTA) is a MUTUAL agreement and not just of benefit to Irish people as suggested in your comment. British people too can freely live, work and travel within Ireland as a direct benefit of the CTA. There is nothing that Irish people can freely do in Britain that British people can't also freely do in Ireland. It is why there is such a huge contingent of British-born people living permanently in Ireland. Over 250,000 on last count.
It was nice to hear, “Welcome home.” from the Irish passport fellow when I handed in my Irish passport at the Dublin airport. They NEVER do that in America.
@@helenaville5939 : That's not correct. Irish people can vote in British elections but the same does not apply to British citizens living in Ireland. I guess the thinking was British citizens could make more of an impact on Irish elections, because of our small population than Irish citizens could impact British elections. British citizens used to be able to vote in European elections in Ireland but since they decided to quit the EU that no longer applies either.
Good on yer mate! I want a Scottish one!
Ah thanks! 😁 Good luck! 🙏
Our son, imprisoned in GB (not IN prison) will have a Scottish one whenever that becomes possible.
So your duel passported,so you can pop back and get free nhs
@@vincentmckenna1755 I am Scottish with DNA and an ancient gut to prove it. My labour relatives voted in the NHS!
A very dumb decision that the majority of the British people voted to leave the E.U. I have dual citizenship too and that is U.S. because I was born in the United States, and The Netherlands because both of my parents are Dutch nationals.
I completely agree!
Why is it dumb to leave a failing and corrupt system for self-governance?
@@praedonius9693 Think about trade for example. After Brexit trading with the EU will be more expensive and that will effect the British economy.
Proud to be British but feeling worthless after brexit
Not the most intelligent move, but I’m not British so my opinion doesn’t matter
Good for you!! I did it too USA and Ireland. You need to travel in the EU on your Irish and into and out of the UK on the British one.
Why british and irish passport is the same in and out of the UK because of the good Friday agreement.
@@Johnny-rn5ll Actually it's because of the Common Travel Area. My sister works between UK and Ireland and got her Irish passport after Brexit. She has now decided not to renew her British passport because there is no advantage to having one.
@@helenaville5939 yeah of course if you want to live in the EU (great advantage very nice). but inbetween the UK and Ireland it's essentially one country but it doesn't matter if you travel in and out of Ireland on a UK passport because good Friday agreement means Republic of Ireland=UK
@@Johnny-rn5ll You are confused about the Good Friday Agreement. Like I said in the previous comment it has nothing to do with the Good Friday Agreement. It is due to the CTA (Common Travel Area) Agreement which precedes the GFA. There is nothing in the Good Friday Agreement that grants UK citizens any new freedoms in Ireland (freedoms like travelling, working or living in Ireland). However, the Common Travel Area (CTA Agreement) DOES grant UK citizens the freedom to do those things. And no, Ireland and the UK are not one country. 🙄😂
Hi
Do 4 pentaly points effect irish naturalisation?
Penalty points for what?
£200 , ? That's not a lot of money for what an Irish passport gives you! Unfortunately, I'm one set of grandparents too far from being able to apply myself.
You're absolutely right! I was just saying that for people who perhaps can't afford even £200 to apply. I'm grateful to be able to make the most of this, that's for sure! I completely appreciate I'm one of the lucky ones :)
@@TheLukeRose I have paid €278 for the Foreign Birth Registration, £75 for signature witnessing plus about £150 for all the certificates and documents, then it's €130 for the passport, so all in with all the postage costs it's costing me about £700 :( however I feel it's a price worth paying and I feel so privileged to be able to do it!
Very wise. Sadly, not all of us have an Irish grandparent...
I know :( I appreciate how lucky I am to be able to have gotten this Irish passport!
I got mine in 2013, so needs renewing next year. Back then people asked why I bothered and I didn't know how to explain this feeling I had that it was worth it.
My dad was adopted out of Ireland as a baby and my siblings haven't been able to provide the realting documents required, but I was never asked for them. It was easy.
Sounds much easier than proving French citizenship! My mother is French and has a French passport and everything, but France is such a bureaucratic country who don't think you have anything better to do with your life. In front of French bureaucrats, you put on a nice, friendly show, bad then do a classic French expression once they're out of sight and earshot. It will be worth it all, though, as it means I can stay European
I'm one generation out of luck for an Irish passport 😅 and a few generations out of luck for a passport in Sweden or Norway (my great grandparents on my dad's side came from Ireland, Scotland, Sweden and Norway in the 1800s).
As an Irish person I think that's so sad. I know there has to be a cut-off point, but two generations back seems too short. I wish you the best of everything in your life. ☘💚
Applied via decent as Grandad aa Irish. My application was received 5th Nov 2019 and confirmed. Up to now not received citizenship probably covid problems. So be prepared for a long wait.
Oh wow that is such a long wait! I would say that perhaps there is delays because of covid, but you could always email them to check. I'm sure you will get it soon enough though! :D
There are delays due to COVID and the Brexit surge for Irish passports from the UK.
Thanks for sharing your smart, wise § open-minded point of view ;)
Thanks so much! :D
It certainly talks about why but how is really brushed aside in a couple of seconds...
I'll be doing the same once Ireland start to accept them again, currently stopped due to COVID19. Thankfully the common travel area is still open with ROI
Lucky. COVID delayed my Irish passport by a year and I had to submit another complete application because my first one “expired” while sitting on some desk. Frigging COVID. That was a pain getting everything signed and witnessed again. Plus they had all my original documents.
Mine was delayed to the point that I had to do a second application, but they were doing them once the offices opened again. It did take a year though.
@@pav688 I sent mine off last year. Just in Spain for 4 weeks then back to UK to wait for it to arrive to arrive then moving back and getting residency
When did you apply Luke?
I applied at the end of 2018 :)
@@TheLukeRose Thanks for that, I will try and email them, I have 7 of my 8 great grandparents born in Ireland and the 8th half Irish, so I have more Irish blood in me than many Irish. I keep in touch with many of my relatives in the old country, enjoyed your video.
@@TheLukeRose Hi Luke got my Citizenship confirmed today - yipee!
@@frankpennington Congratulations! That's fantastic news! :D
I still don’t find it fair how you can get an Irish passport through your grandparents. For me it should be your parents
@Lean Mean Cleaning Machine Born in London to an Irish daddy. Got my Irish passport in 2013, nothing to do with Brexit unless predicting it counts.
If you have one or two Irish parents you're a citizen of Ireland by birth right no matter where you live or where you were born
Hi mate. I also had two grandparents born south of Dublin circa early 1900. They died a coup,e of years before I was born in early 70’s but even tho they weren’t alive when I came along do you think I’d still be eligible? Thanks
Hi Tommy :) I don't know for 100% but I can't see why you wouldn't be eligible just because they weren't alive when you were born, so I think you should be fine!
Yes. You will need all the paperwork to prove what you are saying, but you only need to prove it for one grand parent. You have two shots at....
Best of luck.
Yes, whether they were alive or not when you were born is immaterial to your application. It sounds like you should not have any problems and, as another commenter wrote, you are one of the lucky ones because you get two shots at it. In other words if you run into problems finding the required documents for one grandparent you can always try the other. You need only produce documents for one. Best of luck! 👍☘
I'm from western Ireland. You're welcome to come to Ireland - bring a raincoat.
Welcome! But not so happy it took maybe a year and Euro300 - wow, you are aware that's astronomic quick and severely inexpensive. Likely most other places with just a grandfather - even if possible, likely many years and Euro1000s.
I'm Irish and I want a British one
You know that having an Irish passport in the UK gives you more rights than a UK citizen, right? :-) Seriously, since you have full EU rights and full UK rights already.
Obvious troll.
You can, if your parents were born before 1949. That would make you a subject, not a British citizen.
A couple of hundred £ to prove you’re entitled to Irish citizenship. You think that’s expensive? Are you living on the breadline?
Once you apply for a passport how long does it take to arrive?
8 weeks when you apply
I don’t accept the vote and you shouldn’t either. Most British people are not as lucky as you. You need to make sure that you vote for a pro EU party at the next general election so we can rejoin the EU.
I was frustrated for a long time about the vote, so it wasn't just something I accepted overnight. I completely agree with you, I know how lucky I am to have the Irish passport. Pro-EU is definitely something I look for in a party, so as long as I agree with the majority of that party's other polices, they will get my vote :)
It will take decades before the UK is allowed to rejoin the EU. The UK is not missed.
£200-300 is a LOT OF MONEY for freedom?
Well done nevertheless.
We are French🇫🇷. Always travel on your Irish passport. QED.
We will travel into UK for a weekend on our British passports, and travel back on our French passports. Only 32 years in France.. 60 next month so can't remember Engerlund, because we left in 1986.
Well I suppose it might be a lot of money to some people who perhaps can’t afford it 😅 Thanks for your comment! Happy to hear you have made a good life in France! ☺️
@@TheLukeRose Thanks and good luck to you. It was a lot of paperwork but you will NEVER regret it. Be happy and be free. My childhood sweetheart and I bought our house when we were 25 and moved to France permanently when we were 28. Still together and in love.
We came from a council estate comprehensive but the French banks welcomed us with open arms (we WERE working in Saudi Arabia 🤣).
Don't let ANYONE get in your way 🌈.
@@andrewrobinson2565 Ah that’s such an amazing story! ❤️ So happy for you both! I definitely plan on being as happy and free as I can ☺️ Thanks so much!
@@TheLukeRose Good luck. Live the dream!
@@TheLukeRose In an ideal world passports would not be needed. Imagine what even the normal cost of any passport could buy - a nice meal with friends, a full tank of petrol, a new microwave oven or something else essential. It is a lot of money no matter if you're rich or poor. However since we don't live in that ideal world it's an investment and insurance in your future, which would seem to be money well spent.
I'm applying for mine & it's an easy question for me because the UK has left the E.U & the British passport holders will have to pay taxes & vats & Ireland is in E.U. So lucky for me & not so lucky with my mates 😂
Do you live in the uk
I do yes 😊
@@TheLukeRose so why don't you move to Ireland
@@vincentmckenna1755 Presumably because he lives in the UK? What a strange question. Also almost nobody is moving anywhere at the moment until the covid situation calms down a bit.
@@kciparchive we didn't have covid 5 years ago
@@vincentmckenna1755 No. No we didn't. You asked about him moving, not if he had moved. What's your point?
what about health care
What about it? Irish health care you mean or the collapsing NHS health care in the UK?
France is a nightmare of bureaucracy, but because my mother is French, I'm a French citizen and can get a French passport, the reward will be worth the effort: The right to live and work in any EU or EFTA country, and breeze through the EU citizens' queue
It takes forever, still waiting after a year plus process. Going to leave America. US is becoming a scary place.
haha. me too. born/raised in nyc. already have the passport. also a house in ireland via my father. will be retiring there. tired of the american experiment gone wrong, sadly. america was a great country when it was european, but now that it's mostly latin and asian it's total crap. real talk people. real talk.
You are not the only one, but look into everything you will lose if yo Renounce your US citizenship before you do that. It does have a heavy cost. I’m keeping my US citizenship
In the New EU bio data of person and both parents are on passport identify documents, all born in EU have a right to live and work.
It is possible had the people from former EU state been made aware Brexit may not have happened. It is to late now, as in the New EU bio data of person and both parents all born in EU.
I live in the US they should make it easier for us both of my parents are Scottish Irish and British and we should just be able to do DNA.... We should be able to go to Ireland for Scotland do our DNA fill out paperwork about our family tree and be accepted right then and there..... There should not be a huge mess of paperwork
Welcome to the real world.🤣☘💚
You have never lived in Europe.
You don’t do DNA to get citizenship, you need a parent or grandparent who was Irish.
In the case of the UK they are less generous and you can’t get British citizenship at all with a British Born Grandparent.
@@NeurodivergentGuy2023 every country has its own rules. Id rather have an EU passport than a UK one
@@pav688 I rather not have either to be fair, would prefer a Latin American passport or one from the likes of Singapore or Japan, not ones of western shitholes such as EUrinal, the UK or the US !
In Ireland it's considered bad luck to wear a hat indoors. Bad manners, too.
Good luck with the rest of your Being Irish education.
I will remember that for when I'm next in Ireland, thanks!
@@TheLukeRose I am Irish and can assure you that it's not true. I never heard of it and I am living in Ireland for over 50 years. These videos on Irish passports attract some trolls who probably hate that they can't get one. Ignore them.
Try putting a hat on a table in Ireland …
PORTUGAL
I've looked at this but realised it's a reality the UK, even Ireland, may no longer accepts dual passports in the not so distant future. Other EU member states do this.
Not true. There’s an exemption for Irish citizens in terms of dual nationality and residence in the Uk for obvious reasons. That being the troubles, shared history etc
@@troytrey check your facts
@@pav688 you don’t know anything do you? The Irish are always exempt from immigration control in THe Uk .and dual citizenship between will be allowed in the Uk if you are Irish .
It is too much money ...300 pounds 😁😆😄 While others are paying literally . . . MILLIONS to get any EU passport
I don't want to get into the political aspect of it, then you spend the entire video talking politics?
Well lad, you certainly have Irish blood in your veins.
Fáilte
Welcome
Thank you! :D
dude u spent 200 pounds and u call that a lot of money seriously
Good for you BUT 200 300 pounds is o
Nothing surely
I hope you’ve left, enjoy ireland
dont forget your corona virus pass that they use in Ireland
Thanks to the Irish football team needing players from around the world to play for the team they allow people to be eligible if the have an Irish grandparent Haha hence your eligibility lol.
There is still freedom of movement for uk and Irish people between both countries so coming back to the Uk with an Irish passport will be no problem.
Congratulations the more options the more opportunities ✌
Hahaha I sadly don't think I'm good enough at football to join the Irish team! But yes, very glad at keeping the opportunities I had before. Thanks! :D
@@TheLukeRose I think u might be good enough, have u looked at any of there games lately , there a right bunch of wallies , wouldn’t kick snow off a rope , get your boot out we will give u a try 😄
That is not why the grandparent rule exists. It exists for the same reason the parent rule exists, so Irish families that have a baby abroad can return home and not find themselves stuck abroad or separated from their children (it's a common rule not just for Ireland). The grandparent part (which is also similar to a lot of countries) is because grandparents often need to look after their grandchildren in the event a parent dies.
Irish passports should be denied to all who are not born, educated or live at least 5 years in Ireland. Crazy to gift opportunistic foreigners the privilege of an Irish passport, regardless of whether or not they had a granny from Kinvara, Cahersiveen, Doneraile or Inís Mheáin.
What about people born of Irish parents, but they are born in the UK?
Agreed.
@@johnking5174 What about them?
Is it all of the list or just some?
@@johnking5174don’t mind if their parents are Irish, but not their grandparents, that in my opinion shouldn’t qualify without a period of residency attached.