@@mohamedsamiir9827 It likes when one side can create a position where the opponent cannot checkmate, win material and ultimately usually approach a draw.
@@sillysausage4549 it didn't say anything, it's a chess ai, this guy was making a joke and the word "literally" made it more funny. if you didn't find it funny then move on with your day. Btw your grammar isn't perfect either.
These games would be perfect for "Guess the ELO". I see the reaction: "during the middle game you move the king in the center of the board? Mmm...probably you are 900"
Ive spent 3 months studying alpha zero games and I can say that Im close to playing at its level. I've got the piece sacrificing down to perfection, just need to figure out how to convert to win.
@@Mayank_MJ alphazero won 155 games and then lost 6 games lol they are not giving the full information just flashing the 6 losses of alpha zero rather than the 155 wins
@@sshh1756no stockfish won 29 times and alphazero 200+something times but that was stockfish 8 stockfish 12 surpassed alphazero and stockfish nnue 13 is just overkill
AlphaZero in these games reminds me of Kasparov-Karpov with Kasparov misjudging his attack while Karpov just calmly plays reasonable moves and keeps his edge until the endgame.
Levy: You and me combined are probably nowhere near as strong as these computers The biggest understatement of the year and nicest thing anyone has ever said to me awards go to...
@@greennin Only if you assume it scales additively, which is probably pretty generous. The average player will have something useful to tell Levy perhaps 1 time in a million.
@@vydave I think they meant that the last videos detailed how AlphaZero absolutely crushed Stockfish, so they thought this video would be about AlphaZero winning too.
@@Ulaanbasaar Protected by the queen actually. The pawn on g7 can’t take the en passant move on f6 cause that would get the king checked by the rook on g1
@@dannygjk SF 12 =, anything above that is overkill for Alpha Zero, SF 13, 14 , 15 NUE or not would all demolish Alpha Zero (Leela zero is a better version of AZ, only wins by advantage)
@@Noname-67 dude just for your information this was stockfish eight and now we have stockfish 12 and 13 .13 uses neural networks But I can say for sure 12 will beat alpha zero no doubt by atleast 100 game margin Remember although google never ran more games. It's still worse than 13 which demolished leela
@@speeddemon2901 Alpha's influence is still present. Stockfish is stronger now because the team took inspiration from the deepmind team and created the new one. Yes, it's better, but why? They basically combined the best of both worlds. Alpha was a sensation because it demonstrated that "intuition", if you can call it as such when you look at tens of thousands of moves per second, is still a major part of chess even in the computer era. Saying that "Alpha Zero would crush X" and " Stockfish is better now" are both missing the point.
@@istvanvincze7411 Also important to remember that Alpha was only training against itself for only 40 minutes, which is childsplay for training neural nets.
If they had a rematch with Stockfish NNUE that actually is how it would go. The hybrid approach it's using absolutely dominates both traditional engines and the pure neural net style of AlphaZero.
Chess Grandmasters: Haha, people in the Middle Ages and renaissance were so bad at chess. All they did was attack and lose pawns. Best chess computer in the world: 🤔
@@buddermonger2000 not at all. He's probably referencing 18th/19th century chess which was a heavy attacking style, but Alphazero wins mostly by creating imbalances and long term weaknesses in the position, not just mercilessly attacking in tacticap lines
@@invamy7477 it doesn't matter for that algorithm. It matters if you code the reasoning logic, but that logic has evolved on its own without human supervision.
I think it's adorable that you said "you and me combined are *probably* nowhere near as strong as these computers". Dude, 2 Kasparovs combined are not as strong as these computers.
Stockfish plays like a Jedi: defend the weak, sneak patiently, let your opponent wear itself out Alpha Zero plays like a Sith: sacrifice the weak, strike relentlessly, give no quarter
14:40 crazy how similar this endgame is to Fabi vs MVL in the candidates; shows that they're definitely studying alpha zero's games for their preparation
Usually endgames are theoretical solved by tablebase, us common men can access it in lichess too And no they usually don't refer alphazero for endgames. Endgames are referred from the tablebase. It has some crazy position However I had a video where Daniel said that the top players use multiple seconds who use multiple engines (maybe only three engines)
This year's TCEC was super interesting watching the Stockfish team come back and defeat everyone by incorporating the Neural Network positional analysis of AlphaZero/Leela into their classic Monte Carlo depth search... In a way, it's like AlphaZero and Stockfish 11 had a baby.
Idea for the video. There are historical records of Stalin, Napoleon and other known figures chess games. Would be unique content to overview these games. Cheers!
i absolutely love these computer showdowns.. this is chess to an extreme degree no one will ever reach on their own without the help of these computers and its amazing
I think that Levy is grinding so hard trying to make his money while the Queen's Gambit surge is still here, but in doing so he's actually picked up the baton from the Queen's Gambit and is keeping chess momentum alive (mostly) by himself. There are the other major channels like Eric and Hikaru and Daniel but I won't take anything away from them either.
Now I understand how much I missed your videos for last 3 days probably. Your videos give me daily dose of laughter, entertainment and obviously broaden my chess thinking. Thank you levy.
AlphaZero happened at almost the perfect time, and that is impressive on its own. Computer chess sunk into a rut, because the best software only had other similar software to compare against. All chess engines have the "Horizon effect" where they are blind beyond their search, even AlphaZero. This could easily have gone the other way, with Stockfish or another engine beating ALphaZero. You can see similar lopsided competitions if you run an engine against a previous version of itself. There are only a few weaknesses left in computer chess play, and AlphaZero took advantage and got a lot of attention. White can very likely force a draw, and that may be the next domino to fall soon.
I would like to believe levy did this video for poor old stockfish to not feel depressed and old fella can still go out and enjoy other things.🙏 Good work gothamchess
that match was basically a rigged publicity stunt. stockfish cpu was way underpowered compared to alphazero's gpu, and sf only had 8 mb of ram, so much like a human with bad memory it had to keep recalculating its lines. Fritz engine would have won against sf under similar conditions.
Sooo...our computer overlords are either really good at punishing the French Defense, or really bad at defending with it. "French Defense...the choice of Bots that feel 2 Bishops is one Bishop too many."
Interesting to see that by programming to look for win probability at all times, AZ never really looks for drawing positions. The same thing happened with AlphaGo when it finally lost, it was starting to make a bunch of chaotic moves rather than staying solid. It always wants to create winning chances and will do whatever it takes to get them.
Hot take: Alpha Zero learned how to play chess by developing patterns that arise from particular openings that it chose to play. If you put it in a position that it didn't learn, then those patterns may be less effective.
This is what I was thinking too - it plays as though it had already been playing, rather than being able to make the optimal move for other people's positions
In particular, the very aggressive style that Alpha Zero developed was based on a certain presumptive balance of power, based on a presumptive set of openings it would willingly enter. Adjustments to being forcibly nerfed by an adverse opening book was not on its original training menu. And this makes sense, because from the perspective of Deep Mind, this was a technology demonstration project, never precisely about chess in the large in the first place. A single crushing style perfected within a chosen repertoire of openings proved plenty sufficient to debut the new technology to slack jaws the world around.
These don't count as real games in my book. You said it yourself, Alpha Zero would never play that Najdorf, and the lines were forced. I understand this is all theory but there is a reason why AZ would not play this. AZ should play another 1000 games against the latest version of Stockfish without lines being forced.
Both are forced to use openings to see how robust they are in a variety of different states. It can show how well they can do in suboptimal situations and how adaptive they are, otherwise it would literally just be one identical game where nobody learns anything
No no, he has a point. The fact that AlphaZero beat Stockfish beat Stockfish 155 times doesn't change the fact that Stockfish beat AlphaZero six times.
Please stop the clap thing...
Pin of shame
Is this really a pin of shame? I think it’s more pin of opinion or pin of request
I think it's a neat transition
Please stop commenting
Oof
Alpha zero literally said I’d rather lose than admit fortresses exist
what does fortress mean?
@@mohamedsamiir9827 It likes when one side can create a position where the opponent cannot checkmate, win material and ultimately usually approach a draw.
It didn't "literally" say that. English being destroyed, even on relatively highbrow sites.
@@sillysausage4549 it didn't say anything, it's a chess ai, this guy was making a joke and the word "literally" made it more funny. if you didn't find it funny then move on with your day. Btw your grammar isn't perfect either.
@@sillysausage4549 🤦
These games would be perfect for "Guess the ELO". I see the reaction: "during the middle game you move the king in the center of the board? Mmm...probably you are 900"
Levy: black hung a pawn that’s an 800
White is a cheater (3300)
YES!!
9.. It's over 9000
You dropped a zero bud, here you go
0
its due to a tactic / Knight takes pawn / the pawn is pinned and the queen cant recapture because of the bishop
Stockfish: Alright let’s have a nice calm game…
AlphaZero: MORE COUNTERPLAY! MORE COUNTERLAY! TAKE MY PAWNS! MORE COUNTERPLAY!
Stockfish: I hate you.
my friend who thinks he is winning when fighting
@@pxrposewithnopurpose5801 Are the skinnies at school getting rowdy?
MORE COUNTER PLAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
@@hidratadop surprised? I got into google easily since I operate on it
Ive spent 3 months studying alpha zero games and I can say that Im close to playing at its level. I've got the piece sacrificing down to perfection, just need to figure out how to convert to win.
Haha
Yeah wel all know how to sac, but how to win is the hard part so if you are honest you just wasted 3 months of your life doing nothing
@@taimroial1706lad chill he's joking
I find that playing with myself helps
@@taimroial1706 r/whoosh
stockfish is like the principled gm who always sticks to the fundamentals
alphazero is an angry teen
And an angry teen somehow wins more often
@@Mayank_MJ alphazero won 155 games and then lost 6 games lol they are not giving the full information just flashing the 6 losses of alpha zero rather than the 155 wins
@@mr_tony_starkthat's what he and gothem at the start of the video said
Alpha Zero won 155 times Stockfish won 6 times and 839 draws. They played 1000 times.
@@sshh1756no stockfish won 29 times and alphazero 200+something times but that was stockfish 8 stockfish 12 surpassed alphazero and stockfish nnue 13 is just overkill
Levy 2 days ago: I’m going to take a break from YT
Also Levy: Takes a break faster than most YTers take between normal vids
@the high ground why did they get demonetized
He is not taking a break, he is taking his hoodie off
True
@@和也兄貴 ah yes, a fellow samurai.
Levy: I'm taking a long break from TH-cam
Technoblade: ...
Damn levy spent three days just to take off his hoodie. Welcome back
True
ye
He needed a break I guess..
?
My wife, who isn't into chess but walks by to see Levy now and then notices all his new shirts immediately.
27:08 "On no! My bishop! I forgot pawns could take diagonally." - Eric Rosen, maybe
Somewhere Eric Rosen is squealing in delight
"Giving all your pawns away as if youre one piece up."
The Alpha Zero Gambit
AlphaZero in these games reminds me of Kasparov-Karpov with Kasparov misjudging his attack while Karpov just calmly plays reasonable moves and keeps his edge until the endgame.
Well said 👌👌👌 @Marcel
That’s not even close to being a weird analogy. It’s accurate. 🙄
Also similar in that Kasparov wins the match lol.
Wow that sounds very understandable
@@plasmakitten4261 lol
The first time Eric Rosen did not squeal in delight when a connect four was on the board(Game 4)
xc
Up next: AlphaZero beats Stockfish 155 times
Then: Stockfish beats AlphaZero 364 times.
Then: AlphaZero beats Stockfish 420 times.
@@faiyazmahmudnirob5002 then Stockfish Beats AlphaZero 564 times
@@marcuspoosz2190 Then Alpha Zero beats Stockfish Googol times
@@log2306 Then Stockfish beats AlphaZero Googolplex times
"And it was on move 71 that AlphaZero resigned." Got some agadmator action going there I see
same with "feel free to pause the video"
@@EgoJinpachi_ "If you found the move, congratulations, you are truly an excellent stockfish user and for those who just want to enjoy the show ...."
@@GokuNaru007 😂😂😂
20:28 "Stockfish is setting up the pieces for next game". That's hilarious
stealing ben finegold's jokes = hilarious
@@chessmasters9012 didn't know you could steal an obvious joke
@@chessmasters9012 who tf is he
Levy: You and me combined are probably nowhere near as strong as these computers
The biggest understatement of the year and nicest thing anyone has ever said to me awards go to...
Well he‘s like 2350 to 2400, so you and him combined are almost at GM level
@@greennin Only if you assume it scales additively, which is probably pretty generous. The average player will have something useful to tell Levy perhaps 1 time in a million.
@@plasmakitten4261 I wrote this a while ago, but yeah obviously I was just adding the numbers, which is a meme at best :)
I’m 1600 plus 2400 is 4000, which is stronger so yeah
Actually we should not add 1600 and 2400 like that a 1600 will not be useful for 2400 may be in 1 in1000 moves
Me : looks at the title
My mind : look again😅
what
... please explain this
Alpha Zero 6 looked like Big Hero 6 to me, is that what you're saying?
@@vydave I think they meant that the last videos detailed how AlphaZero absolutely crushed Stockfish, so they thought this video would be about AlphaZero winning too.
@@mysticgrandpa1845 GB.
Stockfish stands up to bully and beats it 10 times
AlphaZero: Ha Ha Ha You Fool: Slaps the shit out of Stockfish for the next 1000 games
Actually only 156 if those games resulted in a win.
The other games were a stalemate
"I don't want to insult the overlord... it's gonna show up by my bedside." 🤣
Missed you Levy. Thanks for your vids.
Not gonna show up by his bedside but sure alphazero's parents are tracking him all the time lmao!
😊
Chess programmers battling each other in chess is flipping amazing
AlphaZero is still clearly superior since Stockfish didnt En Passant at 7:32
Yeah that made me soooo frustrated
That blunders the pawn because it’s being protected. by another pawn
@@Ulaanbasaar Protected by the queen actually. The pawn on g7 can’t take the en passant move on f6 cause that would get the king checked by the rook on g1
@@ronindraco4194 touche but that is called a pin
@@Ulaanbasaar no. see en passant, do en passant. very simple.
*"How many games are there?"*
"1,000."
*"How many did Stockfish win?"*
"6."
*"Show me."*
Anti vacxin researcher be like
Anti police people be like
Climate change deniers be like.
Flat earthers be like
Anti gun activists be like
Stockfish: *wins the game*
Levy: it's very exciting to see how alphazero played this position
When u read all the chess books in the library after getting beat up by ur biggest rival.
Gotham, it would be very nice to see how Stockfish has developed "itself" after Alphazero and the current standings in the bot scene now.
Stockfish admitted that the Alphazero approach rocks and went over to the neural net side of the force, (starting with SF 12).
@@dannygjk SF 12 =, anything above that is overkill for Alpha Zero, SF 13, 14 , 15 NUE or not would all demolish Alpha Zero (Leela zero is a better version of AZ, only wins by advantage)
@@agarrikr2996 That's besides my point that SF+NNUE>SF without NNUE.
@@dannygjk and also SF + NNUE > Alpha Zero
@@agarrikr2996 That wasn't my point.
"King e1, Stockfish is just setting up the pieces for the next game"
lmao
* Alphazero savagely destroys stockfish *
A few days later...
Stockfish : "You thought you were done with me?!"
6 out of a thousand
@@Noname-67 dude just for your information this was stockfish eight and now we have stockfish 12 and 13 .13 uses neural networks
But I can say for sure 12 will beat alpha zero no doubt by atleast 100 game margin
Remember although google never ran more games.
It's still worse than 13 which demolished leela
@@speeddemon2901 Alpha's influence is still present. Stockfish is stronger now because the team took inspiration from the deepmind team and created the new one. Yes, it's better, but why? They basically combined the best of both worlds. Alpha was a sensation because it demonstrated that "intuition", if you can call it as such when you look at tens of thousands of moves per second, is still a major part of chess even in the computer era. Saying that "Alpha Zero would crush X" and " Stockfish is better now" are both missing the point.
@@istvanvincze7411 Also important to remember that Alpha was only training against itself for only 40 minutes, which is childsplay for training neural nets.
If they had a rematch with Stockfish NNUE that actually is how it would go. The hybrid approach it's using absolutely dominates both traditional engines and the pure neural net style of AlphaZero.
‘Oh what to do?” ‘Oh no my bishop!”
69 likes = 69 “blunders”
Chess Grandmasters: Haha, people in the Middle Ages and renaissance were so bad at chess. All they did was attack and lose pawns.
Best chess computer in the world: 🤔
Is that actually the middle age playing style?
@@buddermonger2000 not at all. He's probably referencing 18th/19th century chess which was a heavy attacking style, but Alphazero wins mostly by creating imbalances and long term weaknesses in the position, not just mercilessly attacking in tacticap lines
StockFish is using games from the database of human games.
Which means that in some way the humans win.
We created them so
@@invamy7477 not true for Alpha Zero. It created itself
@@egor.okhterov humans coded alpha zero
@@invamy7477 yea but basically it trained itself is what he means
@@invamy7477 it doesn't matter for that algorithm. It matters if you code the reasoning logic, but that logic has evolved on its own without human supervision.
I think it's adorable that you said "you and me combined are *probably* nowhere near as strong as these computers".
Dude, 2 Kasparovs combined are not as strong as these computers.
I dont know why but levy saying get outta here at the end of videos hits huge nostalgia points for me
Levy after being d3mon3tis3d : I ain't uploading videos
Levy after being r3mon3tis3d : videos go brrrrrrrrrrrr
whaat?
He got demonetized? I guess he did show way more videos where white wins than where black wins.
@@psychohist software engineer
@@psychohist i dont have words
@@psychohist lmao
Stockfish plays like a Jedi: defend the weak, sneak patiently, let your opponent wear itself out
Alpha Zero plays like a Sith: sacrifice the weak, strike relentlessly, give no quarter
sith 4tw
It's so weird coming back to older Gotham videos and seeing jump cuts!
These games are stockfish holding on for dear life and praying that it’s defense can hold before alpha zero runs out of pieces.
Great to see you back
14:40 crazy how similar this endgame is to Fabi vs MVL in the candidates; shows that they're definitely studying alpha zero's games for their preparation
I thought the same thing. The king getting in was exactly why MVL was gonna lose. Fabi had to fight for it but stockfish already had that win easy
Usually endgames are theoretical solved by tablebase, us common men can access it in lichess too
And no they usually don't refer alphazero for endgames. Endgames are referred from the tablebase. It has some crazy position
However I had a video where Daniel said that the top players use multiple seconds who use multiple engines (maybe only three engines)
Has anyone tried bringing a Chevy to Levy? I think of him every time American Pie by Don McLean plays.
now I'll never listen to my favorite song without hearing this. thanks.
I tried. His response was very dry.
@@sammarks9146 lmao
What? I read this as Levy in a Chevy singing American Pie by Don McLean
LMAO
AlphaZero is like Rick form Rick & Morty. A drunk genius who no one can beat but just really stubborn and can't admit it was wrong.
Fascinating is that Stockfish evaluates some of alpha moves as inaccuracy, than after another 3 moves change its evaluation back.
I had no idea how dependent i was on your contwnt until now damnnn
Why did I click on this video as soon as i got the notification when I'm literally in a lecture atm lmao
cuz you hate your life
@@JacobsKrąnųg Ah yes a valid argument which could not be denied as it directly correlates to my life and traits.
@fasha77 yeah true
@@anoofhussain3084 it's night here. Time differences always fascinate me
fascinates*
"And by the way, if you leave a supercomputer on it's own it will play h4" that got a chuckle out of me
Favorite line from this" stockfish is setting up the pieces for the next game"
Glad you're back
my listening is bad. You're the only TH-camr I can understand without subtitles, your pronunciation is amazing levy
Watching these games is more confusing then trying to figure out what happens if u weren’t born. Lol
alphazero is basically drunk stockfish... change my mind
"stockfish is setting up the pieces for next game" LMAO smooth add in
This appeared in my reccomended 1 minute after it was uploaded. Epic.
**E p i c**
You should sub and turn on notifications so that it appears in your notification bar 1 SECOND after it uploads 😅😂
The notification woke me up
@@NutellaToGo the notifications don’t even work for me
Stockfish :" I can do this all day"
People : we know
Alphazero: surprised pikachu face
those days when Levy wasn't here, they felt kinda wrong, kinda broken.
Glad to have you back my man!
6:21 stockfish be like: hahahah I’m just gonna copy your playstyle
This year's TCEC was super interesting watching the Stockfish team come back and defeat everyone by incorporating the Neural Network positional analysis of AlphaZero/Leela into their classic Monte Carlo depth search... In a way, it's like AlphaZero and Stockfish 11 had a baby.
Levy, you had me waiting checking my recomendations for 3 days, but at least your back
What about his back? It looks fine to me.
@@danielyuan9862 lmao nothing about Levy's back, its a typo. its supposed to be "atleast you're back"
you're*
Idea for the video. There are historical records of Stalin, Napoleon and other known figures chess games. Would be unique content to overview these games. Cheers!
AlphaZero wants to know your location.
All hail the OVERLORD!
Stockfish may be one of the best bots but it doesn’t even know that en passant is forced
20:39 Just like cocoon, "Okay, I'm better, just do nothing, okay, I'm better"🤣
Stockfish: choses french as his opening
Alphazero: literally gets nerfed and told to play french
i absolutely love these computer showdowns.. this is chess to an extreme degree no one will ever reach on their own without the help of these computers and its amazing
AlphaZero: You can't defeat me
Stockfish 8: Ye, I know, But I can
Stockfish 13:
17:44 my mam just said vide-f
“You and me combined are no where near these computers”
👁👄👁 me knowing I make no difference to the equation
one of these days hes gonna do the transition right before the clap finishes just to mess with people
Lmao that perfect Eric Rosen impersonation, something has made you really happy today, you seem so different!
"Damn, I hate when this happens." -- AlphaZero
I: Play a perfectly normal opening move
Stockfish and Alpha Zero: So you have chosen.... DEATH!
Alpha zero is like Mikhal Tal on steroids with the sacrificing. Lol
I think that Levy is grinding so hard trying to make his money while the Queen's Gambit surge is still here, but in doing so he's actually picked up the baton from the Queen's Gambit and is keeping chess momentum alive (mostly) by himself. There are the other major channels like Eric and Hikaru and Daniel but I won't take anything away from them either.
“TH-cam is superior.”
-Levy, during that one video where Twitch kept making the same joke over and over.
Glad you’re back!
25:34 "Idk, maybe stockfish was being run by Alexandra Botez or sth " LMAOOOOOOO
Notice every time AlphaZero lost, it lost a bishop early. Loves his bishops.
Therefore Fischer's idea of how to beat the dragon is still working today.
Now I understand how much I missed your videos for last 3 days probably. Your videos give me daily dose of laughter, entertainment and obviously broaden my chess thinking. Thank you levy.
AlphaZero happened at almost the perfect time, and that is impressive on its own. Computer chess sunk into a rut, because the best software only had other similar software to compare against. All chess engines have the "Horizon effect" where they are blind beyond their search, even AlphaZero. This could easily have gone the other way, with Stockfish or another engine beating ALphaZero. You can see similar lopsided competitions if you run an engine against a previous version of itself. There are only a few weaknesses left in computer chess play, and AlphaZero took advantage and got a lot of attention. White can very likely force a draw, and that may be the next domino to fall soon.
I kinda wanna see a bunch of super GM's play against Alpha Zero but they're cooperating together
alphazero:nothing can defeat me
stockfish nnue:joined the room
human: oh no its a fork
computer: please fork me
By far the best chess channel on TH-cam. Thank you so much Levy, keep up the great work.
I would like to believe levy did this video for poor old stockfish to not feel depressed and old fella can still go out and enjoy other things.🙏 Good work gothamchess
It would be insane to see how current stockfish could do in a match against alphazero
Current Stockfish will outplay AlphaZero, unless Deep Mind continues the AlphaZero Project
that match was basically a rigged publicity stunt. stockfish cpu was way underpowered compared to alphazero's gpu, and sf only had 8 mb of ram, so much like a human with bad memory it had to keep recalculating its lines. Fritz engine would have won against sf under similar conditions.
@@letsmakeit110 Damn. 8 mb is way lower than SF's default hash (16 mb). That's just terrible
@@letsmakeit110 Wow do you have source for this?
Your comment is inaccurate.@@letsmakeit110
Sooo...our computer overlords are either really good at punishing the French Defense, or really bad at defending with it.
"French Defense...the choice of Bots that feel 2 Bishops is one Bishop too many."
#alphazerosc 👍
Chess in olden days: *a game that is a majestic battle between two idealogies*
Chess now: *F I S S V S R O B O O T*
Funny comment
It pronounces like FischerRobert😂😂
Roboute guilliman?
FISS VS ROBUT
@@666Kaca Regicide is a game of pure tactical genius
Level 1: *Gets their light pieces forked with a pawn.* Level 1000: *JUMPS ON A FORK WITH BOTH PIECES THEMSELVES*
Levy that thumbnail and title is godlike
That is such a cool thumbnail!
Angry fish!!
Interesting to see that by programming to look for win probability at all times, AZ never really looks for drawing positions. The same thing happened with AlphaGo when it finally lost, it was starting to make a bunch of chaotic moves rather than staying solid. It always wants to create winning chances and will do whatever it takes to get them.
Kinda like my 1100 rated ass.
**places pawn e5**
AlphaZero: Checkmate in 10
The way you personify the chess engines cracks me up. Good stuff dude
Hot take: Alpha Zero learned how to play chess by developing patterns that arise from particular openings that it chose to play. If you put it in a position that it didn't learn, then those patterns may be less effective.
This is what I was thinking too - it plays as though it had already been playing, rather than being able to make the optimal move for other people's positions
In particular, the very aggressive style that Alpha Zero developed was based on a certain presumptive balance of power, based on a presumptive set of openings it would willingly enter. Adjustments to being forcibly nerfed by an adverse opening book was not on its original training menu. And this makes sense, because from the perspective of Deep Mind, this was a technology demonstration project, never precisely about chess in the large in the first place. A single crushing style perfected within a chosen repertoire of openings proved plenty sufficient to debut the new technology to slack jaws the world around.
Alphazero is just doctor strange looking for all possible futures
These don't count as real games in my book. You said it yourself, Alpha Zero would never play that Najdorf, and the lines were forced. I understand this is all theory but there is a reason why AZ would not play this. AZ should play another 1000 games against the latest version of Stockfish without lines being forced.
They would all be the same game.
@@electricnezumi What they would do is use better lines not these ridiculous lines which give the opponent a clear advantage.
Both are forced to use openings to see how robust they are in a variety of different states. It can show how well they can do in suboptimal situations and how adaptive they are, otherwise it would literally just be one identical game where nobody learns anything
@@dannygjk yeah this is what i was trying to say
@@hey-zl4kh It's simple - use better lines.
That one person who disliked this video was Dewa Kipas using AlphaZero
the "setting up the pieces for the next game" bit gets me every time
Stock fish : how many pawns do you want to sacrifice?
Alpha zero : yes
POV: You are watching a TH-cam video made by a wonderful human being.
Suck up
@@eduardobenel5329 he's right man don't knock on him
@@eeshangupta6007 yea hes right, but sometimes ppl do this just to get pinned
@@eduardobenel5329 Not in the replies. Those are just dicks. Can't pin a reply
He's back with another masterpiece!
No no, he has a point. The fact that AlphaZero beat Stockfish beat Stockfish 155 times doesn't change the fact that Stockfish beat AlphaZero six times.
But you gotta admit that putting an "!" at the end is kind of clickbaitish for 6 out of 1000 wins. No hate to Levy though.
+Levent but speedrunning also doesn't change the fact that Stockfish needed 30 to 1 time odds to start winning
"so king e1, stockfish is setting up the pieces for the next game"