Stockfish BEATS AlphaZero 6 Times!

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  • @witorwitor
    @witorwitor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6883

    Please stop the clap thing...

    • @matipedano7556
      @matipedano7556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2121

      Pin of shame

    • @zectorchess885
      @zectorchess885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1785

      Is this really a pin of shame? I think it’s more pin of opinion or pin of request

    • @yoghurtkaas1651
      @yoghurtkaas1651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +612

      I think it's a neat transition

    • @KRONOS1909
      @KRONOS1909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +520

      Please stop commenting

    • @vydave
      @vydave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Oof

  • @sadas3190
    @sadas3190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3289

    Ive spent 3 months studying alpha zero games and I can say that Im close to playing at its level. I've got the piece sacrificing down to perfection, just need to figure out how to convert to win.

    • @VivekSingh-ts1ec
      @VivekSingh-ts1ec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Haha

    • @taimroial1706
      @taimroial1706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Yeah wel all know how to sac, but how to win is the hard part so if you are honest you just wasted 3 months of your life doing nothing

    • @flos2159
      @flos2159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +292

      @@taimroial1706lad chill he's joking

    • @Pootis-hn3ky
      @Pootis-hn3ky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I find that playing with myself helps

    • @Aquilenne
      @Aquilenne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@taimroial1706 r/whoosh

  • @stefanosapienza2204
    @stefanosapienza2204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1999

    These games would be perfect for "Guess the ELO". I see the reaction: "during the middle game you move the king in the center of the board? Mmm...probably you are 900"

    • @callumbridgeman3924
      @callumbridgeman3924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +213

      Levy: black hung a pawn that’s an 800
      White is a cheater (3300)

    • @AndrewTyberg
      @AndrewTyberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      YES!!

    • @abhinavrawat5327
      @abhinavrawat5327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      9.. It's over 9000

    • @jalkiruokayes2517
      @jalkiruokayes2517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You dropped a zero bud, here you go
      0

    • @yasuomain3267
      @yasuomain3267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its due to a tactic / Knight takes pawn / the pawn is pinned and the queen cant recapture because of the bishop

  • @tjweaverrs
    @tjweaverrs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2696

    Alpha zero literally said I’d rather lose than admit fortresses exist

    • @mohamedsamiir9827
      @mohamedsamiir9827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      what does fortress mean?

    • @nguyenminhquang9393
      @nguyenminhquang9393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      @@mohamedsamiir9827 It likes when one side can create a position where the opponent cannot checkmate, win material and ultimately usually approach a draw.

    • @sillysausage4549
      @sillysausage4549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      It didn't "literally" say that. English being destroyed, even on relatively highbrow sites.

    • @clobix
      @clobix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@sillysausage4549 it didn't say anything, it's a chess ai, this guy was making a joke and the word "literally" made it more funny. if you didn't find it funny then move on with your day. Btw your grammar isn't perfect either.

    • @ElSantoDeMostoles
      @ElSantoDeMostoles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@sillysausage4549 🤦

  • @snakeking5009
    @snakeking5009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2578

    Stockfish: Alright let’s have a nice calm game…
    AlphaZero: MORE COUNTERPLAY! MORE COUNTERLAY! TAKE MY PAWNS! MORE COUNTERPLAY!
    Stockfish: I hate you.

    • @pxrposewithnopurpose5801
      @pxrposewithnopurpose5801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      my friend who thinks he is winning when fighting

    • @ballaking1000
      @ballaking1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pxrposewithnopurpose5801 Are the skinnies at school getting rowdy?

    • @ApTheRider768
      @ApTheRider768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      MORE COUNTER PLAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

    • @ApTheRider768
      @ApTheRider768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@hidratadop surprised? I got into google easily since I operate on it

  • @mohammadrana2745
    @mohammadrana2745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2782

    Damn levy spent three days just to take off his hoodie. Welcome back

    • @falconfire8759
      @falconfire8759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True

    • @safwat_ullah
      @safwat_ullah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ye

    • @devroopsaha4020
      @devroopsaha4020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He needed a break I guess..

    • @animeboy1962
      @animeboy1962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ?

    • @IcarusGravitas
      @IcarusGravitas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My wife, who isn't into chess but walks by to see Levy now and then notices all his new shirts immediately.

  • @sgrey9181
    @sgrey9181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1920

    Levy 2 days ago: I’m going to take a break from YT
    Also Levy: Takes a break faster than most YTers take between normal vids

    • @abdurrahmanmujahid1577
      @abdurrahmanmujahid1577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @the high ground why did they get demonetized

    • @user-bg5si6dr9g
      @user-bg5si6dr9g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      He is not taking a break, he is taking his hoodie off

    • @Sly_FoXGamer
      @Sly_FoXGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

    • @augustus9992
      @augustus9992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kaz_Aniki ah yes, a fellow samurai.

    • @davidphalen9239
      @davidphalen9239 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Levy: I'm taking a long break from TH-cam
      Technoblade: ...

  • @ninjaasmoke
    @ninjaasmoke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    stockfish is like the principled gm who always sticks to the fundamentals
    alphazero is an angry teen

    • @Mayank_MJ
      @Mayank_MJ ปีที่แล้ว +32

      And an angry teen somehow wins more often

    • @mr_tony_stark
      @mr_tony_stark ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Mayank_MJ alphazero won 155 games and then lost 6 games lol they are not giving the full information just flashing the 6 losses of alpha zero rather than the 155 wins

    • @ok-pv7fw
      @ok-pv7fw ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@mr_tony_starkthat's what he and gothem at the start of the video said

    • @sshh1756
      @sshh1756 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alpha Zero won 155 times Stockfish won 6 times and 839 draws. They played 1000 times.

    • @SyedAli-gl7jq
      @SyedAli-gl7jq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@sshh1756no stockfish won 29 times and alphazero 200+something times but that was stockfish 8 stockfish 12 surpassed alphazero and stockfish nnue 13 is just overkill

  • @smort123
    @smort123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    "Giving all your pawns away as if youre one piece up."
    The Alpha Zero Gambit

  • @dinukepa859
    @dinukepa859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6355

    Up next: AlphaZero beats Stockfish 155 times

    • @phase0400
      @phase0400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +232

      Then: Stockfish beats AlphaZero 364 times.

    • @faiyazmahmudnirob5002
      @faiyazmahmudnirob5002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      Then: AlphaZero beats Stockfish 420 times.

    • @marcuspoosz2190
      @marcuspoosz2190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@faiyazmahmudnirob5002 then Stockfish Beats AlphaZero 564 times

    • @log2306
      @log2306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      @@marcuspoosz2190 Then Alpha Zero beats Stockfish Googol times

    • @vhmix379
      @vhmix379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@log2306 Then Stockfish beats AlphaZero Googolplex times

  • @bobing1752
    @bobing1752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    27:08 "On no! My bishop! I forgot pawns could take diagonally." - Eric Rosen, maybe

    • @futuregmchess1561
      @futuregmchess1561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Somewhere Eric Rosen is squealing in delight

  • @DenizCDemir
    @DenizCDemir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Levy: You and me combined are probably nowhere near as strong as these computers
    The biggest understatement of the year and nicest thing anyone has ever said to me awards go to...

    • @greennin
      @greennin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well he‘s like 2350 to 2400, so you and him combined are almost at GM level

    • @plasmakitten4261
      @plasmakitten4261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@greennin Only if you assume it scales additively, which is probably pretty generous. The average player will have something useful to tell Levy perhaps 1 time in a million.

    • @greennin
      @greennin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@plasmakitten4261 I wrote this a while ago, but yeah obviously I was just adding the numbers, which is a meme at best :)

    • @Dabi15574
      @Dabi15574 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m 1600 plus 2400 is 4000, which is stronger so yeah

  • @kevin_stars
    @kevin_stars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    20:28 "Stockfish is setting up the pieces for next game". That's hilarious

    • @chessmasters9012
      @chessmasters9012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      stealing ben finegold's jokes = hilarious

    • @Froge4291
      @Froge4291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chessmasters9012 didn't know you could steal an obvious joke

    • @jayanthbontha876
      @jayanthbontha876 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chessmasters9012 who tf is he

  • @lavatrex6736
    @lavatrex6736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +551

    "And it was on move 71 that AlphaZero resigned." Got some agadmator action going there I see

    • @EgoJinpachi_
      @EgoJinpachi_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      same with "feel free to pause the video"

    • @GokuNaru007
      @GokuNaru007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@EgoJinpachi_ "If you found the move, congratulations, you are truly an excellent stockfish user and for those who just want to enjoy the show ...."

    • @IndialovesyouBJP2024
      @IndialovesyouBJP2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GokuNaru007 😂😂😂

  • @atharvbapuram7039
    @atharvbapuram7039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +513

    The first time Eric Rosen did not squeal in delight when a connect four was on the board(Game 4)

  • @marceld5949
    @marceld5949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    AlphaZero in these games reminds me of Kasparov-Karpov with Kasparov misjudging his attack while Karpov just calmly plays reasonable moves and keeps his edge until the endgame.

    • @amosdraak3536
      @amosdraak3536 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said 👌👌👌 @Marcel

    • @amosdraak3536
      @amosdraak3536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That’s not even close to being a weird analogy. It’s accurate. 🙄

    • @plasmakitten4261
      @plasmakitten4261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Also similar in that Kasparov wins the match lol.

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow that sounds very understandable

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@plasmakitten4261 lol

  • @GoingOneDayAtATime
    @GoingOneDayAtATime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    AlphaZero is still clearly superior since Stockfish didnt En Passant at ​7:32

    • @rashidsharipov7166
      @rashidsharipov7166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah that made me soooo frustrated

    • @Ulaanbasaar
      @Ulaanbasaar ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That blunders the pawn because it’s being protected. by another pawn

    • @ronindraco4194
      @ronindraco4194 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Ulaanbasaar Protected by the queen actually. The pawn on g7 can’t take the en passant move on f6 cause that would get the king checked by the rook on g1

    • @Ulaanbasaar
      @Ulaanbasaar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ronindraco4194 touche but that is called a pin

    • @lightmodesupremacy7321
      @lightmodesupremacy7321 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ulaanbasaar no. see en passant, do en passant. very simple.

  • @garritt9466
    @garritt9466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Stockfish stands up to bully and beats it 10 times
    AlphaZero: Ha Ha Ha You Fool: Slaps the shit out of Stockfish for the next 1000 games

    • @petelee2477
      @petelee2477 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually only 156 if those games resulted in a win.
      The other games were a stalemate

  • @allbyrs4903
    @allbyrs4903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +428

    Me : looks at the title
    My mind : look again😅

    • @mysticgrandpa1845
      @mysticgrandpa1845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      what

    • @autumn.variation
      @autumn.variation 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ... please explain this

    • @vydave
      @vydave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alpha Zero 6 looked like Big Hero 6 to me, is that what you're saying?

    • @ba-wp5zs
      @ba-wp5zs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@vydave I think they meant that the last videos detailed how AlphaZero absolutely crushed Stockfish, so they thought this video would be about AlphaZero winning too.

    • @ronnylima8410
      @ronnylima8410 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mysticgrandpa1845 GB.

  • @dendera1337
    @dendera1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +330

    Gotham, it would be very nice to see how Stockfish has developed "itself" after Alphazero and the current standings in the bot scene now.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Stockfish admitted that the Alphazero approach rocks and went over to the neural net side of the force, (starting with SF 12).

    • @agarrikr2996
      @agarrikr2996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@dannygjk SF 12 =, anything above that is overkill for Alpha Zero, SF 13, 14 , 15 NUE or not would all demolish Alpha Zero (Leela zero is a better version of AZ, only wins by advantage)

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@agarrikr2996 That's besides my point that SF+NNUE>SF without NNUE.

    • @agarrikr2996
      @agarrikr2996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dannygjk and also SF + NNUE > Alpha Zero

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@agarrikr2996 That wasn't my point.

  • @tookie36
    @tookie36 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Chess programmers battling each other in chess is flipping amazing

  • @yyuyu1506
    @yyuyu1506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +574

    *"How many games are there?"*
    "1,000."
    *"How many did Stockfish win?"*
    "6."
    *"Show me."*

    • @catwithagun1321
      @catwithagun1321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Anti vacxin researcher be like

    • @TheQWER9
      @TheQWER9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Anti police people be like

    • @ayushsharma8804
      @ayushsharma8804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Climate change deniers be like.

    • @dre5586
      @dre5586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Flat earthers be like

    • @werrkowalski2985
      @werrkowalski2985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Anti gun activists be like

  • @SpukyChanel
    @SpukyChanel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Stockfish: *wins the game*
    Levy: it's very exciting to see how alphazero played this position

  • @DrLongWang
    @DrLongWang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +489

    Chess Grandmasters: Haha, people in the Middle Ages and renaissance were so bad at chess. All they did was attack and lose pawns.
    Best chess computer in the world: 🤔

    • @buddermonger2000
      @buddermonger2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that actually the middle age playing style?

    • @TheGuyCalledX
      @TheGuyCalledX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@buddermonger2000 not at all. He's probably referencing 18th/19th century chess which was a heavy attacking style, but Alphazero wins mostly by creating imbalances and long term weaknesses in the position, not just mercilessly attacking in tacticap lines

  • @Redacted_Ruler
    @Redacted_Ruler ปีที่แล้ว +53

    These games are stockfish holding on for dear life and praying that it’s defense can hold before alpha zero runs out of pieces.

  • @kruksog
    @kruksog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    "I don't want to insult the overlord... it's gonna show up by my bedside." 🤣
    Missed you Levy. Thanks for your vids.

    • @g73hc3gsv3i
      @g73hc3gsv3i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not gonna show up by his bedside but sure alphazero's parents are tracking him all the time lmao!

    • @chessmetallica3628
      @chessmetallica3628 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😊

  • @ckchan3861
    @ckchan3861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    * Alphazero savagely destroys stockfish *
    A few days later...
    Stockfish : "You thought you were done with me?!"

    • @Noname-67
      @Noname-67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      6 out of a thousand

    • @speeddemon2901
      @speeddemon2901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Noname-67 dude just for your information this was stockfish eight and now we have stockfish 12 and 13 .13 uses neural networks
      But I can say for sure 12 will beat alpha zero no doubt by atleast 100 game margin
      Remember although google never ran more games.
      It's still worse than 13 which demolished leela

    • @istvanvincze7411
      @istvanvincze7411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@speeddemon2901 Alpha's influence is still present. Stockfish is stronger now because the team took inspiration from the deepmind team and created the new one. Yes, it's better, but why? They basically combined the best of both worlds. Alpha was a sensation because it demonstrated that "intuition", if you can call it as such when you look at tens of thousands of moves per second, is still a major part of chess even in the computer era. Saying that "Alpha Zero would crush X" and " Stockfish is better now" are both missing the point.

    • @ultimategotea
      @ultimategotea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@istvanvincze7411 Also important to remember that Alpha was only training against itself for only 40 minutes, which is childsplay for training neural nets.

    • @MrCheeze
      @MrCheeze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If they had a rematch with Stockfish NNUE that actually is how it would go. The hybrid approach it's using absolutely dominates both traditional engines and the pure neural net style of AlphaZero.

  • @funny-video-YouTube-channel
    @funny-video-YouTube-channel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    StockFish is using games from the database of human games.
    Which means that in some way the humans win.

    • @invamy7477
      @invamy7477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      We created them so

    • @egor.okhterov
      @egor.okhterov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@invamy7477 not true for Alpha Zero. It created itself

    • @invamy7477
      @invamy7477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@egor.okhterov humans coded alpha zero

    • @hussainraza4275
      @hussainraza4275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@invamy7477 yea but basically it trained itself is what he means

    • @egor.okhterov
      @egor.okhterov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@invamy7477 it doesn't matter for that algorithm. It matters if you code the reasoning logic, but that logic has evolved on its own without human supervision.

  • @sahu4022
    @sahu4022 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    It's so weird coming back to older Gotham videos and seeing jump cuts!

  • @dyclif
    @dyclif 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Has anyone tried bringing a Chevy to Levy? I think of him every time American Pie by Don McLean plays.

    • @user-gu1ed1kb8x
      @user-gu1ed1kb8x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      now I'll never listen to my favorite song without hearing this. thanks.

    • @sammarks9146
      @sammarks9146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I tried. His response was very dry.

    • @dyclif
      @dyclif 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sammarks9146 lmao

    • @GaussianEntity
      @GaussianEntity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What? I read this as Levy in a Chevy singing American Pie by Don McLean

    • @callumbarr6447
      @callumbarr6447 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LMAO

  • @LameSlime
    @LameSlime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    When u read all the chess books in the library after getting beat up by ur biggest rival.

  • @guilhermeantonini1777
    @guilhermeantonini1777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Stockfish plays like a Jedi: defend the weak, sneak patiently, let your opponent wear itself out
    Alpha Zero plays like a Sith: sacrifice the weak, strike relentlessly, give no quarter

  • @UndeadFleshgod
    @UndeadFleshgod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "King e1, Stockfish is just setting up the pieces for the next game"
    lmao

  • @thegorn
    @thegorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    ‘Oh what to do?” ‘Oh no my bishop!”

    • @Pablo360able
      @Pablo360able 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      69 likes = 69 “blunders”

  • @abangron
    @abangron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    my listening is bad. You're the only TH-camr I can understand without subtitles, your pronunciation is amazing levy

  • @nomekop777
    @nomekop777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "And by the way, if you leave a supercomputer on it's own it will play h4" that got a chuckle out of me

  • @arjunagrawal9376
    @arjunagrawal9376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Levy after being d3mon3tis3d : I ain't uploading videos
    Levy after being r3mon3tis3d : videos go brrrrrrrrrrrr

    • @errexe0
      @errexe0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      whaat?

    • @psychohist
      @psychohist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      He got demonetized? I guess he did show way more videos where white wins than where black wins.

    • @grapeleopard6809
      @grapeleopard6809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@psychohist software engineer

    • @errexe0
      @errexe0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@psychohist i dont have words

    • @AyleidCraft
      @AyleidCraft 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@psychohist lmao

  • @GabrielSchallock
    @GabrielSchallock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I dont know why but levy saying get outta here at the end of videos hits huge nostalgia points for me

  • @XIIchiron78
    @XIIchiron78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This year's TCEC was super interesting watching the Stockfish team come back and defeat everyone by incorporating the Neural Network positional analysis of AlphaZero/Leela into their classic Monte Carlo depth search... In a way, it's like AlphaZero and Stockfish 11 had a baby.

  • @dxtrj6649
    @dxtrj6649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “You and me combined are no where near these computers”
    👁👄👁 me knowing I make no difference to the equation

  • @koghost2249
    @koghost2249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    14:40 crazy how similar this endgame is to Fabi vs MVL in the candidates; shows that they're definitely studying alpha zero's games for their preparation

    • @James-vc1kc
      @James-vc1kc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought the same thing. The king getting in was exactly why MVL was gonna lose. Fabi had to fight for it but stockfish already had that win easy

    • @speeddemon2901
      @speeddemon2901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Usually endgames are theoretical solved by tablebase, us common men can access it in lichess too
      And no they usually don't refer alphazero for endgames. Endgames are referred from the tablebase. It has some crazy position
      However I had a video where Daniel said that the top players use multiple seconds who use multiple engines (maybe only three engines)

  • @betterthanyou3465
    @betterthanyou3465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I had no idea how dependent i was on your contwnt until now damnnn

  • @julius7507
    @julius7507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    AlphaZero is like Rick form Rick & Morty. A drunk genius who no one can beat but just really stubborn and can't admit it was wrong.

  • @blessedisyou
    @blessedisyou ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Favorite line from this" stockfish is setting up the pieces for the next game"

  • @user-eg3ux7tn4i
    @user-eg3ux7tn4i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Great to see you back

  • @wowlikefun
    @wowlikefun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Idea for the video. There are historical records of Stalin, Napoleon and other known figures chess games. Would be unique content to overview these games. Cheers!

  • @benjaminsmith3151
    @benjaminsmith3151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    AlphaZero happened at almost the perfect time, and that is impressive on its own. Computer chess sunk into a rut, because the best software only had other similar software to compare against. All chess engines have the "Horizon effect" where they are blind beyond their search, even AlphaZero. This could easily have gone the other way, with Stockfish or another engine beating ALphaZero. You can see similar lopsided competitions if you run an engine against a previous version of itself. There are only a few weaknesses left in computer chess play, and AlphaZero took advantage and got a lot of attention. White can very likely force a draw, and that may be the next domino to fall soon.

  • @singsing4546
    @singsing4546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Glad you're back

  • @anoofhussain3084
    @anoofhussain3084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Why did I click on this video as soon as i got the notification when I'm literally in a lecture atm lmao

    • @JacobsKrąnųg
      @JacobsKrąnųg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cuz you hate your life

    • @anoofhussain3084
      @anoofhussain3084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JacobsKrąnųg Ah yes a valid argument which could not be denied as it directly correlates to my life and traits.

    • @anoofhussain3084
      @anoofhussain3084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @fasha77 yeah true

    • @whydoyouneedmyname6007
      @whydoyouneedmyname6007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anoofhussain3084 it's night here. Time differences always fascinate me

    • @whydoyouneedmyname6007
      @whydoyouneedmyname6007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      fascinates*

  • @Rise6474
    @Rise6474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    These don't count as real games in my book. You said it yourself, Alpha Zero would never play that Najdorf, and the lines were forced. I understand this is all theory but there is a reason why AZ would not play this. AZ should play another 1000 games against the latest version of Stockfish without lines being forced.

    • @electricnezumi
      @electricnezumi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They would all be the same game.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@electricnezumi What they would do is use better lines not these ridiculous lines which give the opponent a clear advantage.

    • @hey-zl4kh
      @hey-zl4kh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Both are forced to use openings to see how robust they are in a variety of different states. It can show how well they can do in suboptimal situations and how adaptive they are, otherwise it would literally just be one identical game where nobody learns anything

    • @Rise6474
      @Rise6474 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dannygjk yeah this is what i was trying to say

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hey-zl4kh It's simple - use better lines.

  • @youtubeaddict231
    @youtubeaddict231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Stockfish :" I can do this all day"
    People : we know
    Alphazero: surprised pikachu face

  • @KommSusserT0d
    @KommSusserT0d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    those days when Levy wasn't here, they felt kinda wrong, kinda broken.
    Glad to have you back my man!

  • @aimgaming4744
    @aimgaming4744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    This appeared in my reccomended 1 minute after it was uploaded. Epic.

    • @weeb69
      @weeb69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      **E p i c**

    • @NutellaToGo
      @NutellaToGo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should sub and turn on notifications so that it appears in your notification bar 1 SECOND after it uploads 😅😂

    • @Glop5897
      @Glop5897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The notification woke me up

    • @Glop5897
      @Glop5897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NutellaToGo the notifications don’t even work for me

  • @Guest-wp1wc
    @Guest-wp1wc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:21 stockfish be like: hahahah I’m just gonna copy your playstyle

  • @AboveThaMyth
    @AboveThaMyth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "stockfish is setting up the pieces for next game" LMAO smooth add in

  • @matamax7342
    @matamax7342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Levy, you had me waiting checking my recomendations for 3 days, but at least your back

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about his back? It looks fine to me.

    • @joshua0166
      @joshua0166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielyuan9862 lmao nothing about Levy's back, its a typo. its supposed to be "atleast you're back"

    • @joshua0166
      @joshua0166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you're*

  • @ThePackman1010
    @ThePackman1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think that Levy is grinding so hard trying to make his money while the Queen's Gambit surge is still here, but in doing so he's actually picked up the baton from the Queen's Gambit and is keeping chess momentum alive (mostly) by himself. There are the other major channels like Eric and Hikaru and Daniel but I won't take anything away from them either.

  • @asdlkadfguihajladsf
    @asdlkadfguihajladsf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    one of these days hes gonna do the transition right before the clap finishes just to mess with people

  • @paxconsciente3352
    @paxconsciente3352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i absolutely love these computer showdowns.. this is chess to an extreme degree no one will ever reach on their own without the help of these computers and its amazing

  • @NaveenKedilaya
    @NaveenKedilaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    AlphaZero wants to know your location.

    • @supersid6682
      @supersid6682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      All hail the OVERLORD!

  • @AChronos1027
    @AChronos1027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    AlphaZero: You can't defeat me
    Stockfish 8: Ye, I know, But I can
    Stockfish 13:

  • @JohnJohnson-fn2we
    @JohnJohnson-fn2we 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating is that Stockfish evaluates some of alpha moves as inaccuracy, than after another 3 moves change its evaluation back.

  • @chessgames4795
    @chessgames4795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I: Play a perfectly normal opening move
    Stockfish and Alpha Zero: So you have chosen.... DEATH!

  • @granberyacademia
    @granberyacademia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It would be insane to see how current stockfish could do in a match against alphazero

    • @codex4336
      @codex4336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Current Stockfish will outplay AlphaZero, unless Deep Mind continues the AlphaZero Project

    • @letsmakeit110
      @letsmakeit110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      that match was basically a rigged publicity stunt. stockfish cpu was way underpowered compared to alphazero's gpu, and sf only had 8 mb of ram, so much like a human with bad memory it had to keep recalculating its lines. Fritz engine would have won against sf under similar conditions.

    • @codex4336
      @codex4336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@letsmakeit110 Damn. 8 mb is way lower than SF's default hash (16 mb). That's just terrible

    • @goku445
      @goku445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@letsmakeit110 Wow do you have source for this?

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your comment is inaccurate.@@letsmakeit110

  • @lillemy5062
    @lillemy5062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Lmao that perfect Eric Rosen impersonation, something has made you really happy today, you seem so different!

  • @owenseanoh
    @owenseanoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Notice every time AlphaZero lost, it lost a bishop early. Loves his bishops.

  • @kevinwalden4288
    @kevinwalden4288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way you personify the chess engines cracks me up. Good stuff dude

  • @nicolarosa4998
    @nicolarosa4998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Watching these games is more confusing then trying to figure out what happens if u weren’t born. Lol

  • @bleachedbritishtea3725
    @bleachedbritishtea3725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +901

    Chess in olden days: *a game that is a majestic battle between two idealogies*
    Chess now: *F I S S V S R O B O O T*

    • @rajeshpandey2198
      @rajeshpandey2198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Funny comment

    • @PTtop10series
      @PTtop10series 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It pronounces like FischerRobert😂😂

    • @666Kaca
      @666Kaca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roboute guilliman?

    • @errexe0
      @errexe0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      FISS VS ROBUT

    • @XavierKaziTheZombie
      @XavierKaziTheZombie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@666Kaca Regicide is a game of pure tactical genius

  • @agnitank5238
    @agnitank5238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to believe levy did this video for poor old stockfish to not feel depressed and old fella can still go out and enjoy other things.🙏 Good work gothamchess

  • @TidakDiket23
    @TidakDiket23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    alphazero is basically drunk stockfish... change my mind

  • @user-qt8pi4fq5h
    @user-qt8pi4fq5h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    25:34 "Idk, maybe stockfish was being run by Alexandra Botez or sth " LMAOOOOOOO

  • @artursnikulins2603
    @artursnikulins2603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Damn, I hate when this happens." -- AlphaZero

  • @laszloharmati2211
    @laszloharmati2211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stockfish: choses french as his opening
    Alphazero: literally gets nerfed and told to play french

  • @azure8490
    @azure8490 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20:39 Just like cocoon, "Okay, I'm better, just do nothing, okay, I'm better"🤣

  • @stockfish4546
    @stockfish4546 ปีที่แล้ว

    alphazero:nothing can defeat me
    stockfish nnue:joined the room

  • @protiknag4641
    @protiknag4641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now I understand how much I missed your videos for last 3 days probably. Your videos give me daily dose of laughter, entertainment and obviously broaden my chess thinking. Thank you levy.

  • @Tennishangman
    @Tennishangman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    “TH-cam is superior.”
    -Levy, during that one video where Twitch kept making the same joke over and over.
    Glad you’re back!

  • @oliverluke2363
    @oliverluke2363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    19:48 kd2 actually makes a lot of sense because it defends the pawn on d5. the previous move, qc7 threatened bxd5 by pinning the c4 pawn. the only other moves to defend the d4 pawn would be kb2, which runs into future problems with rab8, or one of three knight moves (nf6, nc2, nb3) all of which move the knight to a much less active square than d5. An interesting move to look at could be nc6, which still loses the d5 pawn after nxc6, dxc6, and either qxc6 or bxc6, but gives stockfish an open d file, however stockfish probably didn't consider that adequate compensation for sacrificing an incredibly important pawn and trading off a very well placed knight.
    tl;dr: kd2 is the only move that protects d5 without compromising the d4 knight or lining up the king and queen on the b file

  • @royale9159
    @royale9159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    **places pawn e5**
    AlphaZero: Checkmate in 10

  • @aripolter373
    @aripolter373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I kinda wanna see a bunch of super GM's play against Alpha Zero but they're cooperating together

  • @adityaranjan5548
    @adityaranjan5548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    By far the best chess channel on TH-cam. Thank you so much Levy, keep up the great work.

  • @djd1335
    @djd1335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alphazero: *Majorly moves pawns, sacks pawns and doesn't care, plays absurd moves that no human could possibly understand without thinking for a long time*
    600 rated me: *Maybe I am a chess engine*

  • @Keshgar
    @Keshgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Level 1: *Gets their light pieces forked with a pawn.* Level 1000: *JUMPS ON A FORK WITH BOTH PIECES THEMSELVES*

  • @usuallinkinultimate
    @usuallinkinultimate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Interesting to see that by programming to look for win probability at all times, AZ never really looks for drawing positions. The same thing happened with AlphaGo when it finally lost, it was starting to make a bunch of chaotic moves rather than staying solid. It always wants to create winning chances and will do whatever it takes to get them.

  • @liorweber4459
    @liorweber4459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    POV: You are watching a TH-cam video made by a wonderful human being.

    • @eduardobenel5329
      @eduardobenel5329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Suck up

    • @eeshangupta6007
      @eeshangupta6007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eduardobenel5329 he's right man don't knock on him

    • @eduardobenel5329
      @eduardobenel5329 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eeshangupta6007 yea hes right, but sometimes ppl do this just to get pinned

    • @Jartran72
      @Jartran72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eduardobenel5329 Not in the replies. Those are just dicks. Can't pin a reply

  • @amineasli1322
    @amineasli1322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Therefore Fischer's idea of how to beat the dragon is still working today.

  • @jsn2158
    @jsn2158 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stockfish may be one of the best bots but it doesn’t even know that en passant is forced

  • @abhishek.shenoy
    @abhishek.shenoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That one person who disliked this video was Dewa Kipas using AlphaZero

  • @manymonkeyes
    @manymonkeyes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That is such a cool thumbnail!
    Angry fish!!

  • @warrengibson7428
    @warrengibson7428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome Back Gotham. Didn't Know if you were going to make another video.

  • @jkirschart
    @jkirschart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alpha zero is like Mikhal Tal on steroids with the sacrificing. Lol

  • @RishabhSharma10225
    @RishabhSharma10225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So Stockfish and Alphazero played two games with each opening, one where Stockfish was black and one where Stockfish was white. My question is, are there any games where Stockfish defeated Alphazero with an opening but did not lose with the other colour in the same opening?
    If one colour loses in both the games of a particular opening, it just means that the opening is bad. Like if Alphazero lost to Stockfish playing the Traxler (slightly unsound opening) and Stockfish also lost with colours reversed, it just means that the opening was bad, not that one engine played better than the other.
    Edit: grammar

  • @BlitzWizard94
    @BlitzWizard94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Levy that thumbnail and title is godlike

  • @renehenriksen1735
    @renehenriksen1735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man Levy mentions the word bully so many times that one feels tempted to sing the old "Full Metal Jacket"-song where the refrain is bulle bulle....bulle bulle, but to change the words to bully bully.....bully bully instead. :)

  • @sinception5034
    @sinception5034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tfw a computer fucking resigns

  • @LeventButSpeedrunning
    @LeventButSpeedrunning 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    No no, he has a point. The fact that AlphaZero beat Stockfish beat Stockfish 155 times doesn't change the fact that Stockfish beat AlphaZero six times.

    • @tanoojkanike8376
      @tanoojkanike8376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But you gotta admit that putting an "!" at the end is kind of clickbaitish for 6 out of 1000 wins. No hate to Levy though.

    • @eyeofhorus1301
      @eyeofhorus1301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Levent but speedrunning also doesn't change the fact that Stockfish needed 30 to 1 time odds to start winning

  • @theduck1946
    @theduck1946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How to beat AlphaZero: Lock the position and brace for impact, and hope you survive.

  • @vietanhnguyen9700
    @vietanhnguyen9700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    human: oh no its a fork
    computer: please fork me

  • @serialkiller288
    @serialkiller288 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sparta:NEVER SURENDER!!!
    Alphaero: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!