How To Get Superfast Fiber Internet When you CANT!
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- Alex shows us how at his new house he is getting SUPERFAST FREE INTERNET from a Ubiquiti Dish!
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Pretty scary that you don’t know the difference between megabit and megabyte when selling this is a service!
I'm sure he knows the difference, just mixing up terms when talking and probably didn't fix it in post because he assumed most people watching this would know what he meant.
MEGABITS NOT MEGABYTES
ewsclass66 IKR ITS PISSING ME OFF!
A bit of a miss leading title, the internet is not “FREE” it’s from his leased line which he pays for. This is a bit like saying that by me using the Wi-Fi in my house it’s “free” internet coming from the “air”
TechFlow - the pinned comment is also misleading then. It's a paid connection from Virgin Media. Nothing free about paying for a leased line. The extra bandwidth used is bandwidth he can no longer sell to customers. This is like owning a restaurant and eating from your own menu.
Mate, I don't think that you're using proper outdoor rated cable which will result in the cable deteriorating and you will probably end up with cracked cable and shit with the UK's weather.
System Void ya I looked at that and thought, “hmmmm.” One way to learn, the hard way
and the server he wants to put up there will die/ over heat fast because of all the dust
I've watched about 4 of your videos on your wireless network now and wanted to add some comments for you @techflow that might help you on your way.
Firstly, you've done some amazing stuff, it's clear you've picked a lot of the knowledge up as you've gone along which is to be commended, I learnt a lot of what I know in much the same way and ignore the dummies who claim this is illegal or just want to tell you what you're doing wrong and make fun of you. I will however offer some friendly recommendations as someone who has worked in this industry for 12 years:
1. Get some tough-cable or outdoor ethernet cable that will last - the grey stuff you've shown is going to deteriorate with time and you'll have to re-run the whole lot; better to spend a bit more upfront and have it last for the servicable life of the radios (5 years~)
2. If you were to supply each of your customers with a MikroTik hAP ac lite or similar, you would a) have a device that you could login to allowing you to check speed and test the network from your customers end and b) supply PoE out (via port 5) to the radios you're installing, making for a much neater installation overall.
3. Have a look into more of the MikroTik gear for routing - while the Ubiquiti UI is appealing, you loose a lot of useful functionality that RouterOS has standard
4. If you want to start providing services to business, it'd be worthwhile looking into grounding the radios also - in the event a lightning strike or surge hits the devices are properly grounded and you save (at your home base) the switches/routers from being fried by voltage fed down the cable - in my opinion this is a case of "when" lightning hits close enough, not if :-)
5. Join some of the WISP Groups on Facebook, checkout The Brothers WISP or other such groups on youtube and listen to some of the new things people are talking about and keep yourself up to date on these - you've basically become one of the gang so you might as well benefit from others experience and help your own business out in the process.
6. For redundancy; install 2 sectors, one above the other - where you have customers on the PTMP setup you have the ability to setup a fallback SSID they can connect to in the event you want to take a sector offine to upgrade it / replace it.
7. On the subject of sectors - look into the RF Elements range of antennas - if you're having any issues with too much interference as you get near more heavily populated areas these will save you a lot of pain, ensuring that you signal only goes where you want it to, and you don't have to deal with the other crap nearby. Your customers can still operate on the regular client radios, but having good noise isolation on your primary connection points will give you more channels to work with and make for a better user experience all round.
8. Look into setting up a redundant point of entry into your network - now you've got your house, when you can justify it get a second high speed connection there (even if it's not as fast as the first) so that in the event you loose your primary at least you have some 'limp-home' functionality for the people relying on your network.
9. Keep doing what you are doing, running an ISP no matter how big or small can be a great experience and a lot of fun!
Criticism is good because you do things right, if you take it as criticism and not random hate. I bet this dude is still going to be installing his network CABINETS in the attic...
Oh my goodness.... Its megaBITS (Mb) not megaBYTES (MB) to measure internet speed.... please learn
Bass Booster HD OMFG IKR. It gives me OCD every time i hear it.
You can measure Internet bandwidth in MBps but Mbps is what Alex is reading.
MaX Falstein No, it is a well regarded and accepted fact that data transmission is measured in megabits per second (Mbps) whereas data storage is measured in megabytes (MB). While yes you technically can measure data transmission rates in Megabytes it doesn’t mean people won’t think you are a complete numbnut
In data centre and supercomputer networks, both values tend to be stated for different protocols operating over the networks such as TCP/IP or Ethernet operating over InfiniBand or Fibre Channel operating over InfiniBand. Storage over network is often quoted as GBps across a network connection or aggregated connections, TBps across a switch or PBps across a whole network.
I can factually certify this because it is one of my areas of work. Just because you have not come across MBps does not mean it is not used.
Yes it *can* be measured in MB but for what im talking about and numbers from speedtest, its megabits...
You obviously go through a mainstream provider anyways. You don't supply your own pool. You basically take what you get and push out to other people in your neighborhood and then charge them. Stop fronting like you're your own ISP.
Edit - I, myself and others apparently...see multiple issues. Please read the comments and correct your mistakes.
Outdoor rated cabling, grounding, attic space for a server???
How do you think an ISP works? They purchase data from an upstream provider and on-sell to clients. In a previous video he mentioned that he has a wholesale agreement with his provider. Retail ISPs do not usually allow you to act as an ISP and on-sell, so getting a wholesale agreement is necessary before doing this.
Anthony But they supply public ips. He provides a lan access.
Denzel Disk he could if he wanted to. He’d have to purchase a block of IPs though and for the small amount of clients he has and none of them probably need a unique public IP, there is no need.
No he could not provide his own IP Addresses, he certainly has no idea what BGP is and not a single piece of equipment he owns can route IPs. He couldn't afford the cost to own his own block of IPs, let alone the cost to get the equipment to actually use the IPs.
Edit: Anthony how you said an ISP works is not at all how an ISP actually works.
aidan can’t speak for your country. But it does here in Australia.
Megabits not megabytes.
@alex, you should invest in a uinstaller. Makes setup and alignment much easierand more efficient. I run a WISP in South Africa and use pretty much exclusively UBNT. With 2 in a team we can do an install in 45 min if all goes well. 1 guy on the roof and 1 guy runs a cable to the point on the roof. You can install the radio and do alignment with the uinstaller while the cable is being run, then crimp up and youre done.
Cameron Olivier // hey Oliver liked your comment you gave to Alex. I want to do the same setup in SA . In order to establish a LAN and later a WAN. As you know data in SA is stupid expansive.
Would like to know what equipment you use and setup. And do you get a lease line from what ISP.
you mean megabits not megabytes for the download/upload
I just pointed this out too. lol
It’s not free if you’re paying for it in the first place😂🤦🏻♂️
Awesome work dude!
btw its megabits not megabytes silly!
Says he is a network engineer lol 😂😂
when you can't terminate a RJ45 cable properly, at least use certified EZ RJ45 plugs and make sure your wires are straight. if you look closely the crimper he used is supposed to chop off the excess wire at the end of the plug and it didn't even do that.
Congrats on the 300K great video. I run a WISP myself and it is so much fun.
Thanks for the great video Alex. This is just what I needed to get connectivity from my home to my ranch, which is about three miles away and has great line of sight.
I swear if he says Ethernet wrong one more time
xFluffyMods he also measures speed in bytes per second. Last time that made sense was with iperf or dd...
You have a Virgin Media leased line. 😅(So, no "FREE Internet" and furthermore you do rely on major networks, and always have done)
It's not free internet, which I believe is the point you're referring to. It's internet paid for by Alex (or his company) and then distributed to himself, in no way is it free.
In addition, it is reliant on major broadband networks at a low-level, that being a Virgin Media Leased Line- thus the statement at 8:41 is false as he states " I can now supply myself internet to this house without me having to go through the likes of virgin or BT or any of the major cable provider"
His internet is paid for, and moreover uses "major cable provider"(s) in the UK namely Virgin Media (and most likely BT Openreach- for service of the leased line)
Absolutely love these new house networking videos!
Sooo... he runs a network company and actually charges people for his services but:
1) Doesn't know the difference between MB/s and Mbps.
2) Doesn't know to use cable graded for outdoor use.
3) Doesn't know how to pronounce ethernet.
4) Doesn't know how to pronounce router.
5) Thinks 50-60 Mbps is "super fast".
Minidude110 first, depending on where you're located, 50-60 is really good. Albeit I'm not sure who puts a rack in the attic?
Minidude110 I agree other than 4. The way you pronounce it is debatable.
tocdco niether do I, seems a bad idea especially with it being a new build and the loft timbers being so much smaller.
I don't have a problem with him pronouncing it one way or the other, as long as he decides on one and sticks with it. This "rooter-raoter" bullshit is ridiculous.
Minidude110 haha. Yeh true. He is just trying to cater for both audiences. American and non Americans but it does become annoying saying it both ways each time. Even throwing in the word security gateway or something this time too!
Its not free you pay for it at other house.
hey alex it can go up if you use outdoor cable cat6. the noise outside will stream down you cable speed even if you have good signal
LOve your videos Alex!Appreciate the good work you put into your videos.
After you lined up the other Antenna what speeds did you get? thanks for the video.
Alex: 50 mbps
Me: Laughs 1000mbps
I got 1000mbps gigabit Internet aswell
@@devilzrejectz7318 and i have 2.37mbps 😭
@@devilzrejectz7318 Me: Laughs 10Gig
@@drbass9677 how do u get it
@@immanity. from my isp, gigabit is the cheaper option or you can get 10gig but it’s pretty expensive.
Amazingly produced, well done
From Alex's experience with the ubiquiti range I decided to get an access point for my flat. I got the lite from Amazon for around £74 and now my flat is served by a lovely stable 70mg down and 15mg up. Very easy to set up with an app demonstrated with passion in one of Alex's tech flow videos. Good job boys always innovating and bringing us content that helps us get the best from our tech. Oh and I've gone Alexa mad too with smart bulbs and leds
Your server is going to cook in that loft space in the summer.
He doesn't even have any servers lol
*network rack*
There's a difference between megaBYTES and megaBITS.
A big difference.
eVo7
Don't even bother, he will never listen to you.
I could be wrong... but the ethernet cable he showed on screen wasn't an outdoor rated cable.
What are you going to do for cooling the server? Not sure where you are located but with my experience, attics can get in well over 160 degrees. Plus you have a lot of issues with dust in attics over time.
Ubiquiti make some AWESOME wireless tech. Been using them for wireless deployments at work instead to Cisco Aironet for years now.
its MEGABITS not MEGABYTES, you should know the difference being a TECH CHANNEL lol
@@Kyle-kn8ye you know you can change the MEGABITS to MEGABYTES in the speedtest configuration.... so, your comment is invalid... try if you dont beliveme
@@Kyle-kn8ye I could have not agreed more. This is a perfect description of how MB vs Mb works
Roberto Cubero it's not invalid you just think your smart
An outdoor rated cable should have defiantly been used, or at least some form of conduit should have been used. The pole should also be earthed. Ubiquiti even sell a device that specifically earthes poles!
Agreed. He should really consult with field techs before he posts an online video acting like he's a professional.
Absolutely. That could have been outdoor rated cable, but very unlikely as it is usually black. The Ubiquiti surge protector unit is also a must and Ubiquiti usually void the warranty if they aren't used on outdoor installations. Would definitely like to see Alex follow proper procedures in this regard.
UBNT even go as far as to spec 2 surge protectors. 1 at the radio and 1 at the power source. But he is trying, give him a break. He can only learn. Just hope he learns how valuable a lifeline and harness is before he needs it, those steep pitch roofs are dangerous.
Hey Alex. Great job you're doing there. I was wondering whats the speed you're getting from ISP and how many users you have? how many mbps are you limiting per house? does the overall usage throttle down when everybody is using your network?
Hardly fibre* internet if you're getting it via a dish...
By this logic once you start using WiFi you couldn't call that fibre either?
@@markh1ggins his original solution/connection isn't fiber is the point
@@johnsmith-vz4sk His original connection is fibre, he's just redistributing it using a dish.
@@markh1ggins I think the previous comment was based on the fact that slow vdsl can go faster than what he showed
0:43 Is he using the drill as a hammer XD
How to get fast WiFi
Immediately says don’t try it at home
Once the other houses are built will you still have line of sight? Maybe should have not cut the pole so you could raise again if needed.
Hello from France, I have a question,
how do you handle storms and lightnings with your antennas exceeding from roofs?
Hi Alex,
Quick question about the line of sight. I'm currently awaiting to move into my first house which is less than a mile away from my parent's address. I've been looking at ways to beam WiFi over to my new house using Powerbeams but worried I won't be able to get a great line of sight. I'm wanting both 2.4 and 5ghz signals sent over which I've been worried may not be possible. Any advice?
Thanks
Theres a website in which you can draw lines off sight if u know the 2 locations and there height
I suppose once you get your leased line installed (assuming that you haven't already) that speed will go up significantly? I'm in CT, USA and get a gigabit connection at home, not to be judgemental by any means as I would have been excited about the same speeds not that long ago, but I chuckled a bit about the speeds that you were getting excited about. What's the speed on your leased line going to look like? Or do you throttle yourself so that you can share the connection with your customers?
I myself get 200mb down and 20mb up in the UK but for the majority of people their is little investment in infrastructure and in a lot of areas your lucky to get 1-7mbps down and 0.5-1 up. so his 50-60 both ways is actually very good
Alex, the kind of guy to buy a house to supply a new neighborhood with his own WISP services.
Another great video! keep making networking vids Alex! but where do you buy your ubiquiti equipment from?
should use external grade cable
Do you not need to ground that pole?
Hey Alex!
Could you link the tools you use to do ethernet cables and that stuff?
Greatings from Sweden😃
Its just a matter of time before you or someone you are working with slips and falls... Dont you think you should use some kind of harness just because that's a lot safer than the slip and fall from the roof not to mention your liability as a employer to the people you have working for you or helping? You just seem a little fearless on the roof when anyone on a building site will tell you how dangerous it can be.
Or you could get ally law to do all your roof work 😂😂😂
Think there just mates. Not employees of his company 😂
Willing to bet he doesn't have any liability insurance either.
Simon Hepworth and even as a business you don't have to, it's just a good idea too. Incase you get sued.
If you have a company installing dishes when things can fall on other people, if you DON'T have liability insurance, you've no business running a business because you're a moron.
1 MB/s = 8 Mb/s
We usually measure data sizes in megabytes (MB) but internet speeds in megabits (Mb).
decided to pay $50 for a wifi antenna adapter and i pick up my schools wifi around a half a mile away the fastest normal download in my area is 1.5 down and now using the schools network i get 25 down which is awsome i get inconsistant speeds when cloudy but hey an extra connection for free and i have permission to use it as long as im not doing anything ilegal on it ps one the the teachers is my aunt so thats how i got permission
Was that ethernet cable rated for outdoors? They are usually shielded better and are black to protect from the sun.
Hey don't forget to fix up the roof man comes the rainy season and you don't want leaks so don't forget to fix that by putting on extra special tiles and by probably putting cement or something all of the tile that you cut or whatever anyway see you
You don't have 60 to 70 megabytes bandwidth like you claim. It's megabits! 1 byte is 8 bits. Get educated so you don't spread misinformation to others.
So just buy a second house that has access to fiber isp and there you go free high speed wireless !
Will a regular homemade ethernet cable be sufficiently durable outside against the elements long-term? Think I'd have put it through some type of armor cable sheath.
I'm impressed by this video, seeing what he has done before. Don't expect much, he seems to know very little more than what a quick Google search or a sponsor tells him.
Title-HOW TO get super fast internet....
Him-don’t try anything we do in the vid
As an ISP my self i don't why but i started to dislike this guy. Maybe coz of the choice of his words are misleading.
I was thinking the same! Speed is in Megabits!!!
And he calls himself a network engineer.
did you put silicone other the hole in the tile you made
I don’t know what it is but I just love this types of videos from Alex.
I wouldn’t put ur server rack in the loft as lifts get very hot and could damage your server and make it thermal throttle
"FREE"
please tell me whole setup sender and receiver side and equipment needed
God I love these networking videos 😃
Hi Alex, it's very nice What your doing there at least now I know the product to purchase because what I'm using is so slow for instance, when i want to download something it's best to do it during the night and still it will finish after two or three hours. so my question is this can I get what you have?
No
What did you do to patch the roof after the hole?
3:42 Scraped 😂😂😂
That was so cool , i wish i knew how to do this
Better use shielded cable for outdoor cabling or in the roof area.. Afraid that cheap cable will be rat or mouse free dessert.. Really love Ubiquiti device.. Btw awesome vid.
Love from Malaysia 🤘🤓🤘
Dude always wear a harness going up on a roof. Any fall arrest is a good thing ;)
The ladder climbing is given me anxiety like omg
Really enjoyed the video
Jed did a top job filming and editing this video!
EPIC.PERSON.HERE. But a rubbish job with the title
you have no idea how that ubiquity antennas wotk!!!
Its not megabytes its megabits you divide it by 8 and you get the megabytes
0:58 My mans got some dr pepper eyyyy
North of Mexico
50 mbps down 10 up
around 35 usd with hd tv and phone line
Scaffolding??? Cowboy builders at work lol
it really bugs me that you are saying you are getting 50MB when in reality you are getting 5MB equal to 50Mb MB = Megabytes and Mb = Megabits, D: stahp it
MrAlphaGamez 5MB = 40Mb...
Fauxxo yeah I suppose, you get the idea doe, marz is way out when saying 50MB
Sweating watching this
Cant go wrong with ubiquiti
So where is the super fast fiber internet in this video?
I wonder if you can make a video without throwing your hands around in the air
...like he just don't care!
Cx
How many subscribers can you share you internet connection with> what speeds are they getting, and how musch speed are you paying for through your isp?
You should do an iperf and test the link speed with different packet sizes, you only tested the internet speed but not the max between the two radios. Also I hope that pole is grounded against lightning strikes and you are running that ethernet cable from the radio thru an ethernet surge protector!
Dude MB and Mbps are two different things! You MEAN Mbps! Not MB!
You claimed you're getting "60 to 70 megabytes" on the downlink. What you meant was 60-70 megabits which is 8 times less than your claim.
These tech installs are great and very interesting. Where is the best location to place your internet router in the house for best wifi coverage?
in the middle.
In the middle/Top floor of the house if you have more than one floor.
Do a complete series on setting up WISP? Like a consultant
This video is misleading. You aren't getting free internet, just piggybacking off of your other house.
You failed at making ethernet cables, don't insert it one wire a a time
How did you mount that to the chimney? Would love to see your system there
Awesome vid. How does the chimney vent out?
If im not mistaken this was at 20MHz channel width, you should try it with 40 or 80MHz if the ether is clear enough?
Would it anyhow change the latency as well as speeds? If so, how to configure that?
@@ukLz666 speeds yes,at 80mbps if your device supports it you could get speeds up.to 300-400mpbs depends on various things ofc but its possible, latency probably not, for good latency you need to pick the clearest channel, also you can selecet tdd framing to fixed 2ms and that should work instead of flexible option which is set by default
@@MrSlypire At 20 it is a narrow channel and he might need to do that to clear all insight of the two radios.
I'll give you a like just for the ''adios'' hahah
Which cordless drill do you use to drill on your roof?
nice documentary
Is it just me or is Mb and MB just not the same at all... 60Mbps does not equal 60MBps (60Mbps would be 7.5 MBps tho)?
No?
Mb = mega (millon) bit, MB = mega (million) byte, 1 byte = 8 bits. Piece of cake.
you are right
@@Andrey43915 yea i know, but that's not the point i tried to make, the point i tried to make is that he is saying 60 megaBYTE while it's 60 megaBIT
@@iAmThatOneDuck I know what you ment. I gave a simple explanation to the rest of people reading your comment & also for the author for the video
I love internet setups like this makes it super easy for me to break into peoples local networks and look at all there devices and see all the internet traffic, me and a friend drive to places that have this type of internet setup and get in to people networks in minutes, if you have this type of internet then your a hackers wet dream.
Any way u can fix that?
Yup it makes it even easier to pwn these when they never get firmware updates as well.
Nice Alex, a little ropey on the H&S, have. A question who you point the dish to on the roof a satellite, and much you pay for that connection..? Thanks
It's to his parent's house. I believe he's calling it a WISP (wireless ISP) since they've kinda set up a business reselling the home connection to neighbors in the same manner that he's doing here.
slycordinator, I know this but he needs to get it from someone in order to distribute.. he doesn’t have is own satellite in space where he connects..
@@shannonj1000 This is different than the Satellite Internet. He is shooting "Ground Based 5GHz" He is not going up to space. He is just from shooting 5GHz from one house to another with the same radio on the other side.