HT T, nah, fam. I put my happiness over the happiness of a non-existent child. I’m good with that. And it’s not good for the child and the parent to be poor. Those people living with 5 kids and dirt floors? They had so many because it was expected that some would die DUE TO POOR LIVING CONDITIONS. Talk about garbage comparisons.
MAjYQSammi You think you’re putting your happiness before all else, but in reality you’ll die childless, alone, and miserable like most feminists because you were selfish. Material possessions cannot bring true happiness and never will. Death rates were only a part of why people in the past had triple the kids modern people do. Back then people saw it as their duty to create a better future generation and create dynasties. Childless people today only care, like you said, about their own blind, fake “happiness” in the moment.
How are they expensive? They are when they are in diapers maybe but from age 5-18, they cost next to nothing. You still have the house and car payments whether you have kids or not. There is very little difference in the food budget. Activities cost money, but kids have only so many activities they do.
@@sanketthakuriya5669 Bullshit! How many parents do you really think can afford to spend that much money on children? The average household income is only 40k per year. Where do you get that figure? Family court? I think about 40k is more than enough per child. I was hungry as a child so my parents spend maybe 10k until I was 15 then I worded hard labor to buy my own food and cloths. A lot of kids lived this way.
John Jones I don’t want to grow my kids like that. Thats why i decided not to give a birth. My, and you and my and your kids definitely deserve better environment.
That mentality is a problem tho, imagine your parents had that mentality, you wouldn't have existed, plus I'm sure having kids has many good things too, especially in the long term. I don't think someone who is 80 and childless is more likely to feel fullfilled than someone who had kids and now has left behind a big family.
@@alexmoore9580 that's a silly argument. If I didn't exist, I wouldn't be around to feel sorry about it. Beyond the financial, emotional and ethical obligations of raising children, some of us just dislike them. It should be a no brainer as to why some people would prefer to spend their 20s and 30s traveling, building a career and pursuing hobbies rather than watching sesame Street, not sleeping and getting peed on by another human.
People shouldn't have children unless they can financially and emotionally take care of them-end of story. It's not fair to the child and it's not fair to the people who will end up caring for them (family members, tax payers, institutions). I see this all the time and it's a horrible thing to do to a human being.
Right? If we were all personally responsible for our own retirement instead of relying on Government funding I wonder how much they would care outside of a slight dip in GDP which could be alleviated with automation.
^^ The idea is that social security was something that guaranteed you money when you retire. You can't lose it if your bank fails or if the stock-market tanks.
I think income inequality is the biggest factor here. There are many women working today who would rather not. The disparity between wages and prices is such that very few families can afford to have just one partner working. Yes, there are middle class women who are putting their careers first but for everyone one of them I'd bet there are 10 working long hours for minimum wage. Just 2 generations ago, my grandfather was a coal miner in Cape Breton during the great depression. He had to quit school and work in the mines at the age of 13 to support his family so he wasn't educated enough to rise up in the company. He had a very low paying job all his life yet he was able to afford a nice 2 story house on a good sized plot of land and a truck. His wife didn't have to work and his 3 children were all educated. Someone with a very low paying job today couldn't even dream of living that well.
Supply and demand, when women entered the workforce the worker supply doubled while the amount of jobs stayed the same, so companies are able stagnate wages as there are so many more people willing to work. Thus your grandfather's wages have effectively halved in today's world which is why there is a need for both parents to work to bring in the equivalent sum of money that one man could make in the past.
Do women ask the father when they get abortion ? Do judges think about fathers as equal to mothers when they give costudy to women almost in every divorce case ? Wether people accept it or not, low birth rate is an issue more closely related to women than men, because it's most of the time above all their decision. It concerns everyone, but the central focus is women.
I don't think being a father is worth it to a lot of men anymore. It's a massive financial liability and in many cases you aren't guaranteed to have a family.
While governments are interested in the birth rate as a whole, what about individual children? These living creatures need to be brought up in a generally safe and nurturing environment. Putting monetary issues aside, they'll need attention, affection and care too, which means time from a guardian or parent who is well educated on raising a child and empathetic enough to take care of them. We may be able to increase the amount of kids being born, but if they go neglected or mistreated, will it even be worth the cost?
How do you think a society can provide adequate social and educational resources to parents and their children, if the economy is doing badly? Its about a balance.
Well considering that the children will eventually become workers yes. We need more young workers to support the elderly, so if many of them have shitty childhoods in exchange for a functioning economy in 50 years then yes we should encourage that. Most families in the US did fine during the post WWII baby boom and most children got enough attention from their parents that they kept in contact with them. You use the excuse of the worst possible outcome to completely ignore the fact that we need more children and young workers. Maybe there will be some families that will be worse off, but take a look at the fertility rate and family stability in Israel and tell me that having more children is so horrible.
Looks like edom oligarchy IS in desperate situation and WILL be extinct. As Prophesied in The Book of Obadiah. Stop your whining, We YAHsharalYAH's Chosen Elect got This inheritance! ALL Praises to YAHAWAH Bahasham YAHAWASHI for He and He ALONE IS THE ULTIMATE ORCHESTRATOR! Deuteronomy 28 Job Genesis 25:25
Seems to me like it solves more problems than it creates (at least at this point). I think having access to birth control in poverty stricken nations/areas could also help reduce hunger and spread of disease. Obviously things like clean water and sanitary living conditions are needed more, but this would also have a significant impact.
The problem is the countries that are facing declining birth rates are the ones that do not have problems like hunger , access to clean water and availability of healthcare and education. Countries that do suffer from the risk you said tend to have quite high birth rates .
Where there is insecurity and low life expectancy brithrate is high. Where safety and high life expectancy is high birthrate is low. This is a response to envoierment that humans and other animals have developed to ensure survival. If you want to see lower birthrates you have to raise the standard of living. The opposite is not possible and doesn't work
The thing is you need population growth/fertility. Accepting immigrants is not the solution, since many bring their own ideals and you have a clash of beliefs and civil unrest. And increasing children without improving the economy for the family doesn't work. Whilst throwing money at people to have children creates more issues such as single parents. Looks like the government needs to invest in making it affordable to have children, without immigration and without giving people money. Maybe free childcare, and incentives to boost women in their careers. Mostly will boil down to a decent system and proper education (which most governments seem to fail).
@@ekinteko the government can't really do anything. Government made kids more expensive to grow, 1st it taxed the baby boomers with the promise that they are now providing for the old and the young generations will do the same. They described those taxes as funds, they never were. Not only so but by taxing people in income and inflating the currency it "forced" people into spending and borrowing. Governments encouraged people to spend even money they don't have, taxed workers to "solve" problems and spent even more putting all the country into debt.
The solution is simple higher wages will make people feel confident to start a family sooner. No one is going to start one if they can't afford it. Common sense
Businesses don't care about your family and actually don't want you to have kids so you'll be more dependable. If the government forces them to raise wages those businesses will just leave.
In the 70s, they were telling women who were planning to have kids: "Having a career is the best you can aspire for." In 2018, they're telling working women: "Being a mother is the best you can aspire for." Can't you let women be themselves?
something never touched on in these videos is the break down of community over the last century tho especially the last 50 years you used to trust the people around you so kids could run free and you wouldnt have to worry about child care as a neihbor would just keep an eye out now communities are fractured across continents and kept in contact via occasional texts, every one is lonely most strucggle to find a purpose inthere overly precise job lacking a meaningful output and we are all worried all the time over issues half a world a way due to the internet increasing access and alarmist news being the most profitable, all this is without even talking about the topics covered in this video
Well,In Poland this 500pln extra doesnt work, Goverment thought that when they give money to every couple there will be baby boom, and what happen, totaly different in 2019 and 2020 there was the lowest birth rate in Poland since hundred years, so extra money in this circumstances not always work
IT IS VERY HARD , esp when your parents can't help you. Every time you neeed to work late, you have to find some to take your child. It is insane, if you want to make people have kids, help with day care. If you pay for day care, it will make alot of mom's lives easier. Day care till late hours too. If we don;t work we can't feed the kid. Man no longer make enough to have a family on their own, on one salary.
I think about that all the time im a man 28 years old and I work hard every day and I feel like a loser because I realize I can never feed a family on my own and its not like I dont wanna work
Why not grant women higher wages under the condition of them having more children? For every one child they have, they’ll be paid high enough so they can sustain the newborn as well as obtaining a surplus for themselves.
By the time I'm ready to have a kid women my age will have a hard time even getting pregnant. I'm not planning on continuing my family tree. Gonna save up, enjoy life, and cash out as much as possible before I die. I deserve to enjoy my life how I want to, not how other people want me to set them up for an enjoyable life.
Damn good work. The format is perfect and Lou is driving real nice, don't change anything. My opinion: we're all too depressed/tired/exploited/broken/abused/overloaded/stressed/anxious/angry to have kids.
LOU you are getting better and better every day! Perfect, very interesting information. thank you and thanks to BEME to have such a smart and cool buddy over there. cheers.
Breeder subsidies are not laudable. The planet is overly infested. The big picture is overpopulation leading to many ills like climate change, resource depletion, extinctions, etc. Yes, the elderly subsidy is a big challenge... but that's nothing compared to the overpopulation issues. Looks like more of a geological population DISTRIBUTION issue than a human shortage.
no wonder Germany has no problem letting immigrants come to their country , it helps their image as a progressive country while providing a working force to sustain it's declining fertility rate
hmmm im not sure about that working force statement majority of refugees dont speak the language and have extremely low skill set so not your desirable highly efficient educated worker
@@luddity No, we want to stay here. The middle class now stays. The poor work in the West and then return. The middle class USED TO emmigrate. Now not any more. I visited all Western Europeans countries and, except the Netherlands and Denmark, I find all of them shitholes just like Romania. Why emmigrate?! No reason!
I think the problem is that there is a difference between having kids in the rich countries as compared to poor, in poor countries you want more kids to help out the family but in rich countries, the kids are a burden on your financial situation.
Solution: Stop complaining about wages as poorer countries dont need any of them but you do. Ban woman from work unless its needed (Divorce, war, ect.) Ban contraceptives. Pay a family for each child Ban abortions unless you have more than 4 children or because of rape, risk of life, ect. Do all this and your fertility rate will boom to 2.4 to 3.0 atleast
@Trillest Swordfish Well for countries that have extremely low fertility rates such as south Korea, I think that extreme solutions is the only way to counter their very own extinctions.
Let's be real here. The reason this all happens is a financial one. Companies have been getting away with paying people pennies on the dollar and these companies make more money each year. Then they figured, "If we make woman work their lives away too we can make even more money." Then just import labour to fill the gap when there's not enough kids aka employees. Few other tricks in there like pumping up asset prices to make sure people keep renting and never can afford to save. Keep them in the debt cycle. Do that and you've got a perfect system for churning out short term profit
Then eventually there will be no need for money and the quality of human life will increase. That's the theory of the Zeitgeist documentaries and the Venus project any way...
One more reason. Polarity of the masculine and feminine energy is decreasing as men and women increasingly live similar lives and compete with one other on the same terms.
@@JM-cu6ex I want kids in the future, as mentioned in above comments I can afford them now but I think I will wait another year to build up wealth before I start looking for a wife.
I'm definitely not interested in paying for old people for as long as children. Either save up or they should work longer. Retirement at 65? Please... that was decided when the life expectancy was that age and people had more children
In India the retirement age is 60 (only for govt jobs people hired before 2004). No pension for private jobs people. Retirement pension is assured, irrespective of the no. Of kids the pensioner has. The pension is half of the last monthly salary drawn
Japan and Korea are especially screwed, foreign immigration is low and visa requirements are strict (trust me I live in Japan). Reform to immigration policies are widely unpopular. Even if they open their doors, the cultural differences are huge and learning the local language (required by many employers) is very difficult. There are some efforts at the government level to reduce overtime and incentivise women to have children but they’re not effective. Working conditions in many companies still make it almost impossible to take maternity leave. With current economic conditions, fewer people are getting married or having kids. Many couples can not afford to have children and many single workers have very little time and energy for meeting a partner due to working overtime being the norm.
In Bulgaria we are no different - fertility rate is really bad. Aprox. 60 000 babies are being born every year but more than 80 000 people die. Add a huge number of young people leaving the country for economical reasons and you get the picture - by the end of the century there will be no Bulgaria.
In Denmark, a wonderful country to raise a family, increasingly many women are career minded AND single.. singles are eligible for paid artificial insemination funded by the (free) public health care system.. unless you have so many kids you need to buy your own bus funding a family is not a real issue for the vast majority of the population as the safety net is very good .. in other words not having kids is (unless you have fertilty issues) largely a matter of personal priority...
There's a few reasons: 1) Condoms and birth control. It's much easier to prevent unplanned children now. 2) Urbanization. People in cities tend to have far fewer kids than people in rural areas.This is true regardless of culture and level of development. It's not a coincidence that the most urbanized countries in the world (South Korea, Japan, Singapore) have the lowest fertility rates. 3) People are becoming less religious. Pretty much all major religions encourage their followers to have large families. That religious pressure to have a lot of kids doesn't apply to non-religious people, which is a growing percentage of the population. 4) Ending child labor. Having a lot of kids used to be incredibly financially beneficial. Kids would start working as soon as they were able and would give all of their earnings to their parents. In modern society children are now massive financial burdens. 5) People increasingly see children as a lifestyle burden. They would rather dedicate their time and money to their hobbies and interests than raise children.
Yep! Hit it right on the nail. South Africans, Mexicans, Thai, Brazilians, Colombians, Iranians, Turks, and many other peoples are all heading towards a population shrink in the coming decades. In the last 50 years, all of these countries have become very urbanized (75+%) and have been reducing child labor.
Have any of these countries succeeded in increasing the fertility rates? If not, then either they don't know the cause, or they do know the cause but refuse to consider the obvious solution.
Perhaps having one less child is the equivalent of 800 people recycling, but when you consider that higher education correlates with lower fertility, future generations might have a lower average IQ. And that is a steep price to pay.
maybe we could start by removing the stigma of "deadbeat" parents, and make child support a responsibility of all members of a society rather than a *shame* device. If we need kids, treating them like they're a problem or a burden isn't going to help this. Lots of guys are deciding to just give up on the relationship market, too, for the same reason.
Here's a crazy idea, why don't we ask young people what they want and need to be able to have kids? If you create conditions where people feel they can provide for a family without major upheaval, they'll want to have a family. We need to test out ideas such providing stability via universal health care (looking at you US), universal day care and basic income. Reducing stress and increasing social ties through measures such as encouraging multi-generational blended families under the same roof and creating walkable cities may also help.
People don't really know what they want (ask apple and google for this), and due to greed they will never be satisfied, once they ask for a tax break then they'll ask for a free house Just look at the standard of life of africa and usa
@@MrHjacky When people don't know or have the answer to a problem, shouldn't they test out possible solutions based on what seems most likely until they find one that works?
Considering we currently live in this money-centric, profit-driven world, why are a tiny group of people entrusted with such scary levels of power?! $Money$is$more$important$to$them$than$human$life!
Children and babies have no place in the workplace. Parents are always skipping out on work to deal with Jr.'s sniffles. You need to make a choice. Have a brat, or have a carreer, you can't have both.
I think depopulation is a good thing because we really dont need this many people. High population only benefits big companies because more supply and less demand mean lower wages and lower wages mean more profit.
‘Day of conception’ in Russia is BS. You need to do better fact check. This law is introduced only in one region of Russia. For whole country, there is a law about ‘mothers capital’ in accordance to which, families giving a birth to (or adopting) second (3rd, 4th etc.) child will be paid with approx. 6,5K$ which they can use for their purposes.
it's not too bad though it seems, you guys keep that country alive by having awesome *merit-based* immigration policies and since it's such a clean-safe-beautiful country it's very attractive to expats from all over
The "do it for Denmark" video was a satirical PR campaign made by a Danish travel agency called "Spies Rejser". You could say it worked very well since it gained international coverage. But the birth rate is low though.
The one big thing this gets wrong is the environmental impact statement. While reducing children in developing countries helps the environment, restricting fertility in developed countries does the opposite. Fewer educated people in advanced economy countries means a slowdown of progress and worse efficiency. More children in advanced countries means more educated people, which in turn means more scientists and engineers contributing solutions and technology that will save the planet and its people in the long term.
The Population of the earth is 7.7billion and ALWAYS GROWING . We have 300 million more than in 2017. The US good times are considered the 1950s with 170 million not the 330 million of today. . Forgot to mention because of their (overpopulation) India's (GDP per capita) is ranked 127th that's behind Nigeria!
Raising the age of retirement is also a joke. I'm working with 60 year olds that do nothing and cant even use computers. You want them to so nothing till 70 at the highest wages? Would kill the economy.
That’s why it’s good to have a pension plan because the person spends their working life putting money into their pension plan so when they retire they’ve got that money there to support themselves
Here in California it’s not our fault that we don’t have kids because college is soo expensive. N if you want a regular job you get pay minimum right now it’s 11:50 dollar an hour. And a studio to rent is about 1400. And I make a month about 2000 that includes working over time.600 dollar left. And if I get sick I’ll rather suffer at home then go to a hospital. Damn medicine is expensive. What’s why I’ll vote Progressive Democrats to Congress’ Bernie 2020
Alexander Anderson - probably pro-immigration too, wants strong local control for new housing developments, opposes building dams, has no problem giving tax breaks to encourage high tech to locate on the west cost, can't imagine getting rid of either the Fed or the FDA, eliminating prescriptions, medicare, or licensing in the medical professions. At least he is against the drug war and doesn't support the expansion of the military. Think that I've got his NPC settings close?
In Australia the population is rising much quicker than they expected due to more people immigrating there. If it weren’t for that, the population would be shrinking
I wonder how automation will change this.situation, as if 60%+ Jon's can be replaced by automation; unless the masses are provided a comfortable quality of life; birthrates will continue to fall.
The problem is not money, it's time. In the past men worked and woman were house wives, thus there was one parent with enough time for the children. Countries will have to find a way to make it easier for one of the parents to work from home or get time off for the children.
The graphic at 5’19’’ is incorrect... The Brazilian constitution establish a minimum paid maternity leave of 120 days for all workers (urban, rural, domestic, private, public...)... some states have even longer paid leaves for public workers...
You used a clip from idiocracy too. It would be interesting to address that point too. Wikipedia has a whole section about the heritability of IQ and it seems to be strongly correlated. If fertility is inversely proportionate with IQ these days does it mean idiocracy had a point? It's going to be extremely controversial video but you do a great job of addressing controversial topics in a balanced manner.
I've always thought Idiocracy was really a documentary sent back in time to warn us. Remember when earlier this year The Rock was rumoured to be running for US President in 2020? That gave me serious vibes of Idiocracy (President Camacho) 😂
If IQ correlates from generation to generation by 80% it still means that your grandchildren or grand gran children's IQs are basically not really correlated with your IQ. So all this talk about correlation seems to miss the point since the actual biological roots and genetic markers are basically unknown.
Sebastian Schubert I do not think that fertility correlated with IQ, I think fertility correlated with ideology. For example, in Ukraine about 50 % of women have only 1 child. At the same time the biggest family in the world also Ukranian about 350 members now (87 years old man, his 13 kids, 127 grandkids and so on) this family believe that God want create more people. And Ukrainians have normal IQ rate for Europe.
I don't understand why people say they can't afford kids. I make 12hr working construction. I bought my first piece of property 4 acres of land in my first year of working. I built my first home with help of friends. Now everything I have is paid for. At the time I did this I was 20years old. No high school diploma. Now I have 6 kids. Sold my first house for 118k. My friends helped me build another. I still live in this house today. Now I'm 45years old. I have been working for the same guy this whole time. Now I make 18hr he gave me a dollar raise for every child I had. I live good. Everything bought, and paid for. When you put your needs before your wants you'll see you make enough money. My wife has a car, I have a truck. The vehicles are not new. But they are paid for. I also build race car chassis's in my shop. I also have a race car myself. We dragracing. My kids are into kart racing. We take yearly vacation. I only make 18 dollars an hour. Anyone who complains don't try hard enough. I quit school because I seen how much money I can make if I saved. My father told me if you can read a tape measure you can build anything. He was not lying. He told me if I want to quit school that it would be fine with him. As long as I got a job. He put me right to work with his crew building homes. It worked out great he told me if I save my money that he would still let me stay there. That's just what I did. When I told him I had money for land he helped me find land. He did not help me buy it. Then my employer told me I could have all the left over lumber from all the jobs. That's how I built my first home. Then I logged off the the land to help me pay for finishing getting all the materials I needed to build my home.
To consider the perceived climate impact of a child over the value that child would bring to its relations and future friends, let alone it's own personal value I think is extremely anti human. We have problems to solve regarding climate change, but not having kids is short sighted, and a bandage rather than a viable solution.
Even if we think about the aging population it still doesn't make sense in the long term. We have to have fewer children at some point in time. And the problems will only get more extreme if we delay it.
Eh what? This topic has well-researched data and you try to choose some... "hypothesis" to make a correlation = causation kind of deal, which you fail mostly btw. I give you an example: Work-family conflict: Women choose a career | SK -> men spend less time with children (and Gender pay gap?) ->, therefore, women don't want have children This is wrong. It could be also: SK men spend too much time at work -> therefore, they have no time to care for existing children. Or/and SK women don't want a child -> too much work and no partner because of this work situation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_hours_in_South_Korea and so on. I don't know what a gender pay gap has to do with all of this, there isn't even a correlation between fertility and gpg. You also keep the assumption that the widening (and barely closing) of the gap because of children, is the reason why women don't want children. For this, you cite a study which only shows: "yes women with children cant work ungodly hours to make the gap of 2-3 years go away". However, how about you take more than half a day to research your stuff en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_dynamics
Yeah i agree it puts too much pressure onto them... then the old just turn around and make fun of the young with no reason. Thr young just work more and more yet earn less and less
scientists should come up with an answer, introduce baby making machines to take the pressure off woman to give birth. It would also be less dangerous for woman and babies(stillbirths, miscarrages, woman dying in childbirth).
I love Beme, Covering the most interesting stories and issues that most of us don't commonly think about. It's good to learn about everything even if it doesn't impact you right away. Knowledge is power.
People aren't making enough money. Plain and simple.
Make just enough to have an apartment and food. How could I support a kid????
In the past people had 5+ kids while living with dirt floors. The fact is you just put material wealth over human happiness.
@@fabio11826 no I would agree more with avocado, if you have all the above you can probably have kids
agreed
HT T, nah, fam. I put my happiness over the happiness of a non-existent child. I’m good with that.
And it’s not good for the child and the parent to be poor. Those people living with 5 kids and dirt floors? They had so many because it was expected that some would die DUE TO POOR LIVING CONDITIONS.
Talk about garbage comparisons.
MAjYQSammi You think you’re putting your happiness before all else, but in reality you’ll die childless, alone, and miserable like most feminists because you were selfish. Material possessions cannot bring true happiness and never will.
Death rates were only a part of why people in the past had triple the kids modern people do. Back then people saw it as their duty to create a better future generation and create dynasties. Childless people today only care, like you said, about their own blind, fake “happiness” in the moment.
Children are extremely expensive, with both parents having to work the children are not getting the proper nurturing needed.
How are they expensive? They are when they are in diapers maybe but from age 5-18, they cost next to nothing. You still have the house and car payments whether you have kids or not. There is very little difference in the food budget. Activities cost money, but kids have only so many activities they do.
@@sanketthakuriya5669 Bullshit! How many parents do you really think can afford to spend that much money on children? The average household income is only 40k per year. Where do you get that figure? Family court? I think about 40k is more than enough per child. I was hungry as a child so my parents spend maybe 10k until I was 15 then I worded hard labor to buy my own food and cloths. A lot of kids lived this way.
John Jones I don’t want to grow my kids like that. Thats why i decided not to give a birth. My, and you and my and your kids definitely deserve better environment.
Both parents have to work because of women in the workforce.
Sanket Thakuriya got an actual argument?
Can't really blame people for not wanting kids as children are quite the commitment and whatnot.
That mentality is a problem tho, imagine your parents had that mentality, you wouldn't have existed, plus I'm sure having kids has many good things too, especially in the long term. I don't think someone who is 80 and childless is more likely to feel fullfilled than someone who had kids and now has left behind a big family.
@@alexmoore9580 that's a silly argument. If I didn't exist, I wouldn't be around to feel sorry about it. Beyond the financial, emotional and ethical obligations of raising children, some of us just dislike them. It should be a no brainer as to why some people would prefer to spend their 20s and 30s traveling, building a career and pursuing hobbies rather than watching sesame Street, not sleeping and getting peed on by another human.
When you’re too rich for your own survival.
When your the riches country in the world but people genuinely believe they cant afford kids
@@topman8565 The truth is kids are just a burden and liability when you are living in a city.
"Survival" is a bit too strong word for the situation...
@@andrejb.5342 Survival is exactly what I mean. All those countries will literally not survive if nothing changes.
People shouldn't have children unless they can financially and emotionally take care of them-end of story. It's not fair to the child and it's not fair to the people who will end up caring for them (family members, tax payers, institutions). I see this all the time and it's a horrible thing to do to a human being.
Chris Bacus what?
Holly J 👍👍👍
Chris Bacus that's not even related to the original comment
This philosophy sounds right unto a man but is the reason y'all are going extinct
YAHUAH MY POWER
Elaborate on this
only thing i'm sure in, big business will absolutely not allow itself to lose money, no matter what
2:15 - "depends on younger people contributing to them" i.e. a Ponzi scheme
Right? If we were all personally responsible for our own retirement instead of relying on Government funding I wonder how much they would care outside of a slight dip in GDP which could be alleviated with automation.
^^ The idea is that social security was something that guaranteed you money when you retire. You can't lose it if your bank fails or if the stock-market tanks.
ger du a slippery slope with strawmen
Exactly.
I think income inequality is the biggest factor here. There are many women working today who would rather not. The disparity between wages and prices is such that very few families can afford to have just one partner working. Yes, there are middle class women who are putting their careers first but for everyone one of them I'd bet there are 10 working long hours for minimum wage.
Just 2 generations ago, my grandfather was a coal miner in Cape Breton during the great depression. He had to quit school and work in the mines at the age of 13 to support his family so he wasn't educated enough to rise up in the company. He had a very low paying job all his life yet he was able to afford a nice 2 story house on a good sized plot of land and a truck. His wife didn't have to work and his 3 children were all educated. Someone with a very low paying job today couldn't even dream of living that well.
Supply and demand, when women entered the workforce the worker supply doubled while the amount of jobs stayed the same, so companies are able stagnate wages as there are so many more people willing to work. Thus your grandfather's wages have effectively halved in today's world which is why there is a need for both parents to work to bring in the equivalent sum of money that one man could make in the past.
Obez45 Good comment.
You wanted feminism, you got it.
*There are many women working today who would rather not*
What makes you believe men enjoy working ?
Also we have very high expectations for standard of living/ want to live in a good area.
No one has mentioned fatherhood. And the difference in expectations to motherhood.
Do women ask the father when they get abortion ? Do judges think about fathers as equal to mothers when they give costudy to women almost in every divorce case ?
Wether people accept it or not, low birth rate is an issue more closely related to women than men, because it's most of the time above all their decision. It concerns everyone, but the central focus is women.
I don't think being a father is worth it to a lot of men anymore. It's a massive financial liability and in many cases you aren't guaranteed to have a family.
Replacing worker with robot .... and robot take care the elder
Mr. Leman
Do robots pay taxes too?
The robot would do the job faster and won't complain.
Sounds more like a resource based economy vs. the monetary system that we currently live under...
immigration is the answer
@@jilzcrocks3470 no
While governments are interested in the birth rate as a whole, what about individual children? These living creatures need to be brought up in a generally safe and nurturing environment. Putting monetary issues aside, they'll need attention, affection and care too, which means time from a guardian or parent who is well educated on raising a child and empathetic enough to take care of them. We may be able to increase the amount of kids being born, but if they go neglected or mistreated, will it even be worth the cost?
Koakuma you are right on point
How do you think a society can provide adequate social and educational resources to parents and their children, if the economy is doing badly? Its about a balance.
Koakuma SEN You nailed it.
Well considering that the children will eventually become workers yes. We need more young workers to support the elderly, so if many of them have shitty childhoods in exchange for a functioning economy in 50 years then yes we should encourage that.
Most families in the US did fine during the post WWII baby boom and most children got enough attention from their parents that they kept in contact with them. You use the excuse of the worst possible outcome to completely ignore the fact that we need more children and young workers. Maybe there will be some families that will be worse off, but take a look at the fertility rate and family stability in Israel and tell me that having more children is so horrible.
Looks like edom oligarchy IS in desperate situation and WILL be extinct. As Prophesied in The Book of Obadiah. Stop your whining, We YAHsharalYAH's Chosen Elect got This inheritance!
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Job
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Disposable income doesn't talk back.
J Chuck it also doesn’t crush your soul. MGTOW
Sounds like the snowflake generation is an apt label after all.
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw don't worry Tyrones will impregnate the white women
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw Blacks do it too
Seems to me like it solves more problems than it creates (at least at this point). I think having access to birth control in poverty stricken nations/areas could also help reduce hunger and spread of disease. Obviously things like clean water and sanitary living conditions are needed more, but this would also have a significant impact.
The problem is the countries that are facing declining birth rates are the ones that do not have problems like hunger , access to clean water and availability of healthcare and education. Countries that do suffer from the risk you said tend to have quite high birth rates .
Where there is insecurity and low life expectancy brithrate is high. Where safety and high life expectancy is high birthrate is low. This is a response to envoierment that humans and other animals have developed to ensure survival. If you want to see lower birthrates you have to raise the standard of living. The opposite is not possible and doesn't work
The thing is you need population growth/fertility.
Accepting immigrants is not the solution, since many bring their own ideals and you have a clash of beliefs and civil unrest.
And increasing children without improving the economy for the family doesn't work.
Whilst throwing money at people to have children creates more issues such as single parents.
Looks like the government needs to invest in making it affordable to have children, without immigration and without giving people money. Maybe free childcare, and incentives to boost women in their careers. Mostly will boil down to a decent system and proper education (which most governments seem to fail).
@@ekinteko the government can't really do anything. Government made kids more expensive to grow, 1st it taxed the baby boomers with the promise that they are now providing for the old and the young generations will do the same. They described those taxes as funds, they never were. Not only so but by taxing people in income and inflating the currency it "forced" people into spending and borrowing. Governments encouraged people to spend even money they don't have, taxed workers to "solve" problems and spent even more putting all the country into debt.
Dimitry Jobby
Looks like this could all be solved if we got rid of the government and went back to living in anarchy.
The solution is simple higher wages will make people feel confident to start a family sooner. No one is going to start one if they can't afford it.
Common sense
Businesses don't care about your family and actually don't want you to have kids so you'll be more dependable. If the government forces them to raise wages those businesses will just leave.
@@pragmat1k
Of course because CAPITALISM I agree though welp
James Marino in contrast, many companies want you to have kids, then you can’t leave cuz if you leave, you can’t feed your family
I know some rich people who don't want to have kid
@White Women are my Kryptonite! For the very last time.
In the 70s, they were telling women who were planning to have kids: "Having a career is the best you can aspire for."
In 2018, they're telling working women: "Being a mother is the best you can aspire for."
Can't you let women be themselves?
You're right, let's make men give birth. It's not like this is an existential threat to all of humanity or anything.
What’s the point of humans anyways, let’s die off
No.
You missed my point. My point was, had they let women in the 70s be what they wanted (Be mothers), they wouldn't be in this crisis today!
Danyal A. You shouldn't say that. If men give births women become obsolete.... Its true.
something never touched on in these videos is the break down of community over the last century tho especially the last 50 years you used to trust the people around you so kids could run free and you wouldnt have to worry about child care as a neihbor would just keep an eye out now communities are fractured across continents and kept in contact via occasional texts, every one is lonely most strucggle to find a purpose inthere overly precise job lacking a meaningful output and we are all worried all the time over issues half a world a way due to the internet increasing access and alarmist news being the most profitable, all this is without even talking about the topics covered in this video
Great point!
I have the commend you for adding this to the discussion
Also about the fact that we've all been given the "stranger danger" saying engrained into our heads. Which leads us to feel this way.
We have something called "500+" in Poland, which means that every moth you get 500 PLN (~135$ when writing) for every child if you have >=2 of them.
We have something like this in Germany too : )
same in the NL
@kris Fodor do you count mixed kids in your "white births"? Just asking
Well,In Poland this 500pln extra doesnt work, Goverment thought that when they give money to every couple there will be baby boom, and what happen, totaly different in 2019 and 2020 there was the lowest birth rate in Poland since hundred years, so extra money in this circumstances not always work
Such an all around beautifully made video. I've seen similar videos from Vox, Economist etc. but yours is the most fully conceptualized of the bunch.
IT IS VERY HARD , esp when your parents can't help you. Every time you neeed to work late, you have to find some to take your child. It is insane, if you want to make people have kids, help with day care. If you pay for day care, it will make alot of mom's lives easier. Day care till late hours too. If we don;t work we can't feed the kid. Man no longer make enough to have a family on their own, on one salary.
I think about that all the time im a man 28 years old and I work hard every day and I feel like a loser because I realize I can never feed a family on my own and its not like I dont wanna work
@@ff6605 well it's obviously not your fault so don't like a loser, loser
@@ff6605 Inflation and rising costs are a factor.
Lou you're smashing this stuff! Congrats to the whole team that put this together! Still killing it over at Beme!
Lou, my man. This series is the best. It's back to classic research that doesn't get bogged down in overly fancy graphics. Keep it up man.
Why not grant women higher wages under the condition of them having more children? For every one child they have, they’ll be paid high enough so they can sustain the newborn as well as obtaining a surplus for themselves.
By the time I'm ready to have a kid women my age will have a hard time even getting pregnant. I'm not planning on continuing my family tree. Gonna save up, enjoy life, and cash out as much as possible before I die. I deserve to enjoy my life how I want to, not how other people want me to set them up for an enjoyable life.
This exact attitude is the death of civilisation
@@fargothbosmer2059 but we can't do nothing about it 🛌
Damn good work. The format is perfect and Lou is driving real nice, don't change anything.
My opinion: we're all too depressed/tired/exploited/broken/abused/overloaded/stressed/anxious/angry to have kids.
Sad truth.
LOU you are getting better and better every day! Perfect, very interesting information. thank you and thanks to BEME to have such a smart and cool buddy over there. cheers.
Thanks Misho - appreciate the support.
You said the same thing better than I was going to.. So many interesting stories, and Lou is so nice :)
Having kids would only upend my peaceful, mess free life. It would also ruin all chances of having free time and available resources.
Breeder subsidies are not laudable. The planet is overly infested. The big picture is overpopulation leading to many ills like climate change, resource depletion, extinctions, etc. Yes, the elderly subsidy is a big challenge... but that's nothing compared to the overpopulation issues. Looks like more of a geological population DISTRIBUTION issue than a human shortage.
no wonder Germany has no problem letting immigrants come to their country , it helps their image as a progressive country while providing a working force to sustain it's declining fertility rate
hmmm im not sure about that working force statement majority of refugees dont speak the language and have extremely low skill set so not your desirable highly efficient educated worker
YOU FIGURED IT OUT !!
@@neo69121 thats not actually correct
Plus we are talking about immigrants not refugees
Immigrants have to learn the language
@AMERICAN PATRIOT thats the biggest bullshit conspiracy thwory i have ever heard
Didnt even try to make ot sound convincing
@@TheMe26 first half is correct, second half is bs
Countries such as romania, bulgaria and balkan countries not only suffer from low birth rate but also emigration to western EU countries
Because nobody wants to live there, much less bring up kids there.
@@luddity why what's wrong with Balkans.
@@coasteyscoasteys a lot of things unfortunately
@@luddity wrong, most people want to stay but the economy is shit so they just leave.
@@luddity No, we want to stay here. The middle class now stays. The poor work in the West and then return. The middle class USED TO emmigrate. Now not any more. I visited all Western Europeans countries and, except the Netherlands and Denmark, I find all of them shitholes just like Romania. Why emmigrate?! No reason!
I think the problem is that there is a difference between having kids in the rich countries as compared to poor, in poor countries you want more kids to help out the family but in rich countries, the kids are a burden on your financial situation.
I got a kick out of the idiocracy scene. Such a great documentary.
Solution: Stop complaining about wages as poorer countries dont need any of them but you do.
Ban woman from work unless its needed (Divorce, war, ect.)
Ban contraceptives.
Pay a family for each child
Ban abortions unless you have more than 4 children or because of rape, risk of life, ect.
Do all this and your fertility rate will boom to 2.4 to 3.0 atleast
@Trillest Swordfish Well for countries that have extremely low fertility rates such as south Korea, I think that extreme solutions is the only way to counter their very own extinctions.
Fewer kids are a sign of progress.
Let's be real here. The reason this all happens is a financial one. Companies have been getting away with paying people pennies on the dollar and these companies make more money each year. Then they figured, "If we make woman work their lives away too we can make even more money." Then just import labour to fill the gap when there's not enough kids aka employees. Few other tricks in there like pumping up asset prices to make sure people keep renting and never can afford to save. Keep them in the debt cycle. Do that and you've got a perfect system for churning out short term profit
interesting thought my man thanks for sharing
dont forget Corporate welfare too (in US. i dont know about other countries) America in my opinion isnt a really family friendly country.
@@yoleeisbored EXACTLY!
AI will take our jobs anyway.
Neo Mashego There will be new jobs
@@sleeexs No there will not be new jobs. Robots will replace us in all faculties of life, including the human experience.
@@danieldsouza2812 Robots need to be created, maintained, repaired and programmed silly
@@danieldsouza2812 Go watch one piece
Then eventually there will be no need for money and the quality of human life will increase. That's the theory of the Zeitgeist documentaries and the Venus project any way...
One more reason. Polarity of the masculine and feminine energy is decreasing as men and women increasingly live similar lives and compete with one other on the same terms.
I'd love to have kids right now, but I cant afford them so...
Did you have any
@@stars1190 No, but my living & financial situation has greatly improved and I can definitely afford kids now!
@@kennethhudgins1369 I'm proud of you , Stay Safe 🥰
@@kennethhudgins1369 do you actually want kids or do you have a partner to have kids with?
@@JM-cu6ex I want kids in the future, as mentioned in above comments I can afford them now but I think I will wait another year to build up wealth before I start looking for a wife.
I'm definitely not interested in paying for old people for as long as children. Either save up or they should work longer. Retirement at 65? Please... that was decided when the life expectancy was that age and people had more children
I think there can be positive side to this, if a person retires then a job is created.
In India the retirement age is 60 (only for govt jobs people hired before 2004). No pension for private jobs people. Retirement pension is assured, irrespective of the no. Of kids the pensioner has. The pension is half of the last monthly salary drawn
The problem is that there were too many children in the past, not too few today.
This isn't even taking into account the fact many families HAVE TO have 2 incomes to make ends meet.
Japan and Korea are especially screwed, foreign immigration is low and visa requirements are strict (trust me I live in Japan). Reform to immigration policies are widely unpopular. Even if they open their doors, the cultural differences are huge and learning the local language (required by many employers) is very difficult.
There are some efforts at the government level to reduce overtime and incentivise women to have children but they’re not effective. Working conditions in many companies still make it almost impossible to take maternity leave. With current economic conditions, fewer people are getting married or having kids. Many couples can not afford to have children and many single workers have very little time and energy for meeting a partner due to working overtime being the norm.
In Bulgaria we are no different - fertility rate is really bad. Aprox. 60 000 babies are being born every year but more than 80 000 people die. Add a huge number of young people leaving the country for economical reasons and you get the picture - by the end of the century there will be no Bulgaria.
But Japan is far worse
Then I am contemplating relocating to Bulgaria.
How does it compare to your brothers in North Makedonia?
In Denmark, a wonderful country to raise a family, increasingly many women are career minded AND single.. singles are eligible for paid artificial insemination funded by the (free) public health care system.. unless you have so many kids you need to buy your own bus funding a family is not a real issue for the vast majority of the population as the safety net is very good .. in other words not having kids is (unless you have fertilty issues)
largely a matter of personal priority...
Lot to learn from Denmark on this, for sure.
In the US we're finding large percentages of single motherhood is damaging to pockets of society.
for sure some balances will be pushed.. also what need are there for men in general if few (on paper) attractive donors can do the trick..
Wouldn't getting rid of 45% of the population lead to the same population shrink Denmark is trying to avoid?
Funny how these "strong empowered"career women still have so many priviliges.
There's a few reasons:
1) Condoms and birth control. It's much easier to prevent unplanned children now.
2) Urbanization. People in cities tend to have far fewer kids than people in rural areas.This is true regardless of culture and level of development. It's not a coincidence that the most urbanized countries in the world (South Korea, Japan, Singapore) have the lowest fertility rates.
3) People are becoming less religious. Pretty much all major religions encourage their followers to have large families. That religious pressure to have a lot of kids doesn't apply to non-religious people, which is a growing percentage of the population.
4) Ending child labor. Having a lot of kids used to be incredibly financially beneficial. Kids would start working as soon as they were able and would give all of their earnings to their parents. In modern society children are now massive financial burdens.
5) People increasingly see children as a lifestyle burden. They would rather dedicate their time and money to their hobbies and interests than raise children.
Yep! Hit it right on the nail.
South Africans, Mexicans, Thai, Brazilians, Colombians, Iranians, Turks, and many other peoples are all heading towards a population shrink in the coming decades.
In the last 50 years, all of these countries have become very urbanized (75+%) and have been reducing child labor.
having a kid today is nothing less of a crime.
Have any of these countries succeeded in increasing the fertility rates? If not, then either they don't know the cause, or they do know the cause but refuse to consider the obvious solution.
Perhaps having one less child is the equivalent of 800 people recycling, but when you consider that higher education correlates with lower fertility, future generations might have a lower average IQ. And that is a steep price to pay.
Juil Doesn't IQ just measure how fast you learn and not necessarily how smart your are?
maybe we could start by removing the stigma of "deadbeat" parents, and make child support a responsibility of all members of a society rather than a *shame* device. If we need kids, treating them like they're a problem or a burden isn't going to help this. Lots of guys are deciding to just give up on the relationship market, too, for the same reason.
Why does he have Singapore flag? Curious to know
Rushit Shah google is free
Maybe he’s from Singapore?
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Very unfortunate they got axed. This type of reporting is desperately needed now more than ever
This is probably your most well put together video
Here's a crazy idea, why don't we ask young people what they want and need to be able to have kids? If you create conditions where people feel they can provide for a family without major upheaval, they'll want to have a family.
We need to test out ideas such providing stability via universal health care (looking at you US), universal day care and basic income. Reducing stress and increasing social ties through measures such as encouraging multi-generational blended families under the same roof and creating walkable cities may also help.
People don't really know what they want (ask apple and google for this), and due to greed they will never be satisfied, once they ask for a tax break then they'll ask for a free house
Just look at the standard of life of africa and usa
@@MrHjacky When people don't know or have the answer to a problem, shouldn't they test out possible solutions based on what seems most likely until they find one that works?
Why should we "replace" all the time?
Considering we currently live in this money-centric, profit-driven world, why are a tiny group of people entrusted with such scary levels of power?! $Money$is$more$important$to$them$than$human$life!
Children and babies have no place in the workplace. Parents are always skipping out on work to deal with Jr.'s sniffles. You need to make a choice. Have a brat, or have a carreer, you can't have both.
I always hear about low birth rates but job are increasingly automated so wouldn't it even out less people but less jobs for them
No, new jobs are also created, it has always been that way: old jobs disappearing and new job replacing them.
I love the titles you guys use for each episode.
This is some quality journalism. Keep doin what cha doin Lou!
I think depopulation is a good thing because we really dont need this many people.
High population only benefits big companies because more supply and less demand mean lower wages and lower wages mean more profit.
Young girls 18-28 are sleeping around till 30 where they are slags.
‘Day of conception’ in Russia is BS. You need to do better fact check. This law is introduced only in one region of Russia. For whole country, there is a law about ‘mothers capital’ in accordance to which, families giving a birth to (or adopting) second (3rd, 4th etc.) child will be paid with approx. 6,5K$ which they can use for their purposes.
I am Singaporean and..... o boy that video is so embarrassing 😅😅😅😅
dra s. uwu mood siol
it's not too bad though it seems,
you guys keep that country alive by having awesome *merit-based* immigration policies
and since it's such a clean-safe-beautiful country it's very attractive to expats from all over
I am Singaporean and I never even knew about the song till watching this. 😂
Shout out to SG bois!
That's a sick song
*I WANNA EXPLORE YOU LIEK A NIGHT SAFARI*
*UGHYHH YUGHFHHGJHHFFHGHHFHGHFFHFHFHFHFH*
The "do it for Denmark" video was a satirical PR campaign made by a Danish travel agency called "Spies Rejser". You could say it worked very well since it gained international coverage. But the birth rate is low though.
Still higher then most european countries
Brazil offers from four to six months of paid maternity leave
The lighting is very good in this video - thank you
Your guys should have this as a podcast.
The fertility rate is lowering only in western and civilized countries.
No, it's happening everywhere except Africa.
@@marcusanark2541 true
Also why should a woman try to find a husband and have kids when she can join Tinder and Bumble and just swipe right and left
The one big thing this gets wrong is the environmental impact statement. While reducing children in developing countries helps the environment, restricting fertility in developed countries does the opposite. Fewer educated people in advanced economy countries means a slowdown of progress and worse efficiency.
More children in advanced countries means more educated people, which in turn means more scientists and engineers contributing solutions and technology that will save the planet and its people in the long term.
The Population of the earth is 7.7billion and ALWAYS GROWING . We have 300 million more than in 2017.
The US good times are considered the 1950s with 170 million not the 330 million of today.
. Forgot to mention because of their (overpopulation) India's (GDP per capita) is ranked 127th that's behind Nigeria!
Raising the age of retirement is also a joke. I'm working with 60 year olds that do nothing and cant even use computers. You want them to so nothing till 70 at the highest wages? Would kill the economy.
If they are comparing birthrates in select countries, why didn't they compare death rates...
Work pressure is why I'd be reluctant to have kids. I do not have the time. There has to be laws brought in that limit time spent at work.
That’s why it’s good to have a pension plan because the person spends their working life putting money into their pension plan so when they retire they’ve got that money there to support themselves
Your pension plan won't be worth the paper it is printed on, if there aren't enough people in the next generation.
the elderly pay for themselves by putting in extra before they retired?
@Tools Forh when you pay for social security is what i mean
Here in California it’s not our fault that we don’t have kids because college is soo expensive. N if you want a regular job you get pay minimum right now it’s 11:50 dollar an hour. And a studio to rent is about 1400. And I make a month about 2000 that includes working over time.600 dollar left. And if I get sick I’ll rather suffer at home then go to a hospital. Damn medicine is expensive. What’s why I’ll vote Progressive Democrats to Congress’ Bernie 2020
Haha. So you're going to vote for the political party that made everything so expensive in your state? Smart.
Alexander Anderson - probably pro-immigration too, wants strong local control for new housing developments, opposes building dams, has no problem giving tax breaks to encourage high tech to locate on the west cost, can't imagine getting rid of either the Fed or the FDA, eliminating prescriptions, medicare, or licensing in the medical professions. At least he is against the drug war and doesn't support the expansion of the military. Think that I've got his NPC settings close?
In Australia the population is rising much quicker than they expected due to more people immigrating there. If it weren’t for that, the population would be shrinking
I wonder how automation will change this.situation, as if 60%+ Jon's can be replaced by automation; unless the masses are provided a comfortable quality of life; birthrates will continue to fall.
The problem is not money, it's time. In the past men worked and woman were house wives, thus there was one parent with enough time for the children. Countries will have to find a way to make it easier for one of the parents to work from home or get time off for the children.
What would be the source of this ? " fertility rate 01:01 how many babies are being born to women in their prime childbearing years "
Can someone comment the whole list? I don't want to watch this whole video
An amazing video again!
Don't stop making great content guys!
The graphic at 5’19’’ is incorrect... The Brazilian constitution establish a minimum paid maternity leave of 120 days for all workers (urban, rural, domestic, private, public...)... some states have even longer paid leaves for public workers...
You used a clip from idiocracy too. It would be interesting to address that point too. Wikipedia has a whole section about the heritability of IQ and it seems to be strongly correlated. If fertility is inversely proportionate with IQ these days does it mean idiocracy had a point?
It's going to be extremely controversial video but you do a great job of addressing controversial topics in a balanced manner.
I've always thought Idiocracy was really a documentary sent back in time to warn us.
Remember when earlier this year The Rock was rumoured to be running for US President in 2020? That gave me serious vibes of Idiocracy (President Camacho) 😂
If IQ correlates from generation to generation by 80% it still means that your grandchildren or grand gran children's IQs are basically not really correlated with your IQ.
So all this talk about correlation seems to miss the point since the actual biological roots and genetic markers are basically unknown.
Sebastian Schubert I do not think that fertility correlated with IQ, I think fertility correlated with ideology. For example, in Ukraine about 50 % of women have only 1 child. At the same time the biggest family in the world also Ukranian about 350 members now (87 years old man, his 13 kids, 127 grandkids and so on) this family believe that God want create more people. And Ukrainians have normal IQ rate for Europe.
I don't understand why people say they can't afford kids. I make 12hr working construction. I bought my first piece of property 4 acres of land in my first year of working. I built my first home with help of friends. Now everything I have is paid for. At the time I did this I was 20years old. No high school diploma. Now I have 6 kids. Sold my first house for 118k. My friends helped me build another. I still live in this house today. Now I'm 45years old. I have been working for the same guy this whole time. Now I make 18hr he gave me a dollar raise for every child I had. I live good. Everything bought, and paid for. When you put your needs before your wants you'll see you make enough money. My wife has a car, I have a truck. The vehicles are not new. But they are paid for. I also build race car chassis's in my shop. I also have a race car myself. We dragracing. My kids are into kart racing. We take yearly vacation. I only make 18 dollars an hour. Anyone who complains don't try hard enough. I quit school because I seen how much money I can make if I saved. My father told me if you can read a tape measure you can build anything. He was not lying. He told me if I want to quit school that it would be fine with him. As long as I got a job. He put me right to work with his crew building homes. It worked out great he told me if I save my money that he would still let me stay there. That's just what I did. When I told him I had money for land he helped me find land. He did not help me buy it. Then my employer told me I could have all the left over lumber from all the jobs. That's how I built my first home. Then I logged off the the land to help me pay for finishing getting all the materials I needed to build my home.
Gross!!!!
To consider the perceived climate impact of a child over the value that child would bring to its relations and future friends, let alone it's own personal value I think is extremely anti human. We have problems to solve regarding climate change, but not having kids is short sighted, and a bandage rather than a viable solution.
Even if we think about the aging population it still doesn't make sense in the long term. We have to have fewer children at some point in time. And the problems will only get more extreme if we delay it.
Eh what?
This topic has well-researched data and you try to choose some... "hypothesis" to make a correlation = causation kind of deal, which you fail mostly btw.
I give you an example:
Work-family conflict: Women choose a career | SK -> men spend less time with children (and Gender pay gap?) ->, therefore, women don't want have children
This is wrong.
It could be also: SK men spend too much time at work -> therefore, they have no time to care for existing children.
Or/and SK women don't want a child -> too much work and no partner because of this work situation.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_hours_in_South_Korea
and so on.
I don't know what a gender pay gap has to do with all of this, there isn't even a correlation between fertility and gpg.
You also keep the assumption that the widening (and barely closing) of the gap because of children, is the reason why women don't want children.
For this, you cite a study which only shows: "yes women with children cant work ungodly hours to make the gap of 2-3 years go away".
However, how about you take more than half a day to research your stuff
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_dynamics
The us and other countries should start doing restrictions on births, one day or another this damn world is gonna be us squished together
Discussing the statistically significant issues, I like it.
It's irresponsible to have children to support an ageing population or it's economy
Yeah i agree it puts too much pressure onto them... then the old just turn around and make fun of the young with no reason. Thr young just work more and more yet earn less and less
List this under "things people can't afford in America".
We Africans dont have that problem. Am from Somalia one of the highest fertility rate in the world. 🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴
scientists should come up with an answer, introduce baby making machines to take the pressure off woman to give birth. It would also be less dangerous for woman and babies(stillbirths, miscarrages, woman dying in childbirth).
Here in Africa we have a surplus of babies
You can show that video from Singapore, without any help to find it....found it in your description.
4:08 I think that the numbers are reversed. Sweden is actually #4 and Norway is number 1.
I love Beme, Covering the most interesting stories and issues that most of us don't commonly think about. It's good to learn about everything even if it doesn't impact you right away. Knowledge is power.
The old, poor, employers, investors, economy, state will all take hits.