Yeah, I see a lot of little boys trapped in the body of a grown man. People who never grew out of their fortnite/league troll mindset. It's sad to see, but as a great man put it; "Picture how dumb your average person is and then realize half of the rest are even dumber than that." Best way to deal with them is to not give them the satisfaction of a reaction. Mute, block, goodbye.
I mean, I find it more common that 14 and 16 yr old bois go around screaming racial slurs a lot more than men over the age of 35, so I don't think so. Maturity =/= age is the first step to weird pedophile acceptance.
@@jasonfinch3631 That's a rare occurrence but it does happen. I want to say that they have a bright future ahead of them, but having been one of those kids it's hard to not be ground down by other people and become bitter and jaded. To those, I wish them the best.
@@Theovates oh 100%. Literally 85% of gorilla tag are toxic little kids, and then 10% of it is toxic people who think they are better then everyone, then 5% of chill people who just wanna play a game💀
i dont play vrchat but i also get told to kill myself just for existing in tf2 im thinking of playing vrchat sometime can you tell me which server is good?
@@bunger108 if you want to play vrchat it really depends on what time you play it at. Anytime before 9pm there are typically a lot of kids which gets annoying especially when some will walk up to you and ask if you want to see something cool then pull out a cock(I usually tell them "I can't see what you are doing" and they will walk away most of the time). But for good servers it depends on what you want to do if you want to meet people to talk with Japan shrine on Europe servers is a good spot, another good one is no time two talk, it puts you in a room and every two minutes a new person gets put in for you to talk to. But if you want to chill there are plenty of worlds to relax at with friends you just gotta find what you like, and I would avoid black cat unless you want to mess with and be messed with ALOT, plus if you are on quest alot of people join with crasher avatars so that can get annoying. Just remember the best thing about vrchat is exploring all the worlds and finding new people. And good luck with the hellhole that is online VR games
in my experience, most toxicity comes from... 1. Underage users 2. edgy teen boys being homophobes/racists (often also 1) 3. non-quest elitists 4. E-daters 5. Easily butthurt people looking for drama to substitute IRL interaction or to feed their own solipsism ("it's all about MEEE" usually have a bio with a 100,000 word bio) 6. Both the butthurt people and the edgy teens reeing at eachother and then making all the normal users' days that much worse.
I think I was 14 when a group of middle age guys started ganging up on me because I defended ANOTHER little kid they were insulting because he was singing. They called me a wh*re and a mistake and being a 14 year old it got to me. When I would try to go to a different place in the world they would follow me and tell me I couldn't leave. Luckily a group started clapping back at them but they wouldn't back down. In the end we blocked and reported them but it hurt when they called me those things all because I told them to leave the other kid alone.
Best way to deal with all of the toxicity is to block it on sight. Remember, with the nuisance rank if someone is blocked or muted enough times it takes a toll on that individual's standing. Can it be used maliciously? Maybe. But overall blocking people who are being awful makes things a lot better. Just don't interact with those types, don't say anything back or do anything. Just block and move on, continue having fun.
Often times I threaten the trolls with intense and obscene physical harm and that seems to do the trick! (I have a big stick that I found in my back yard that I sharpened recently, it's pretty fucked up but I've been forced to use it before in self defense situations :/ )
In my experience I think the most standout experience with toxicity in Vrchat was in the Black Cat, I was literally just walking around an then this kid just starts speaking extremely fast and insults my character for having a mole on it, I wasn't even being an ass. I was just existing and I start getting insulted for no god damn reason.
did you fight back at least or did he sl*ughter you verbally like an animal please tell me you attempted to engage in battle for what little remained of your eviscerated pride and not just sit there and take it like a dishrag
Shes right it should be 18+. This experience comes from going up as a kid myself, its NOT the NSFW+ which was the issue, it IS talking to other people in internet chatrooms which is the issue (for me it was chatandgo) as you encounter people that aren't in your age range (that of a kid). This being said the game should NOT be censored at all, but made for adults in mind, rather then a younger audience. However if this game continues to want to appeal to kids rather then adults then there should be community guidelines, censorship, and much more enforcement that needs to be added.
@@brian6391 I would necessarily say have child and adult lobbies exclusively, because that gates 18-year-olds off from their 17-year-old friends, for example. 18+ rated lobbies and regular ones tho for sure.
@@eve_______ This generation of kids are going to be the weirdest and most useless adults because they’ve been deprived the most basic developmental exercises in life like real world socializing.
Great video Twice !! I remember I was on Karaoke Central , just singing for fun and then , there was a guy saying to me " Can u stop singing ? You're really bad ." and I was ignoring , then he begin to say some bad words , but there was other people defending me and after that , the guy left the world . Again , great video Twice and I really enjoy watching your videos !!!
Hoooo boy, I remember just chilling in the library of Diluc's Tavern with some friends and this group of trolls in tiny avatars come in and start bugging us. I don't remember what they were saying but my friends blocked them and I just ignored them completely. Every time they tried to say something to me, I didn't respond or even look at them, I just kept talking to my friends. So they were like "I think he has us muted." Then one of them was like "Oh, he seems nice..." They just kinda went into their own corner and vibed. I guess they got bored since they couldn't get a reaction out of me.
Ive met a lot of adults and kids in vrc (I'm 15) most of the people are actually really kind no matter the age, but i have found a lot more toxic adults (20-40) than kids(in this case 9-13), the kids are annoying a portion of the time but there kids what can you really do, the racial slurs is a no go though cause the parents should do better in that case, and there are the chill kids who just vibe out and don't bother anyone, some actually being more mature than some adults, on the other hand, the adults are actually toxic, ofc not all but a portion, insulting people for no reason for there race, gender, if there a mute or not, what there doing, they will harass you about anything just cause they think they can, I've seen multiple grown men and women bully a kid(probably like 10) when he hadn't done anything bad, no slurs no nothing, he was just being a kid trying to have fun, they were telling him to get off the game that no one loved him and to go die, vile stuff to be saying to a kid, both age groups have there problems, like any social games of this scale do, but grownups, the fact they can be toxic and even argue with a child instead of just blocking them like an adult should to not give a kid doing something like that the attention, but instead actually harassing them which can affect a child's mind especially that young being told to die by the people there supposed to look up to as kids do, its disgusting but a reality we unfortunately have to live with
I can agree with this statement. I was in a flight simulatior on vrc and this dude had in his bio that he was 27 years old (Pretty much an adult) and as you know in flying worlds he decided to try and shoot me down as im changing my music. So i countered and shot him down i respawned and hear him yell out alot of crap to me simply cause i used flares but i still worried about him cause his behavior was unusual. (For awhile i thought he was drunk. It was that unusual.) But after trying to calm him down and apologize he did eventually block me simply because. (My voice was annoying i sound like a little kid?) But it was the most confusing moment i had with a grown adult on vrc.
I don't understand why adults dont simply block the child annoying them or leave the world. I don't like kids, but insulting them and being a dick to them is just wrong and childish.
The best thing to do against adult toxicity is ignore it cuz they only want attantion/look cool to their friends. If they see no one cares theyl just stop. I do it al the time and it realy works
See this is why I stay mute most of the time now, and or go to places and just vibe by myself. Toxicity is just, everywhere. But it's still such a fun game to hang out in!
Same here, I stay mute and just vibe unless I can tell someone just want to have a fun chat or get to know me or if I hear an interesting conversation then I would try to join in.
Something that VRChat needs is a world moderation feature. Adding people to a moderation team for your own world so that they can kick people from it for being toxic etc. The owner of said world can even ban said person from your own world. This is a way to deal with toxic people although it's still just a suggestion.
Thats a risk that must be taken, do keep in mind that the world owner has control of those moderators. And toxicity, well there are always toxic people in the world.
This experience happened a while ago: I was in a black cat server and me and this guy were just hanging out and then a group of people come up to us and their like “Kill your self” and “Do you have a rope cause you should hang your self” and It really hurt me deep down but I was trying to stand my ground and trying to end the argument but that didn’t work so I just went to my friends world and we were chilling, VrChat has to be one of the most toxic games I’ve ever joined.
Yesterday I talked with this girl and boy and my convo was a little awkward, in the end they just couldnt hold their laughter of my presence and started laughing at me. That felt immensely bad, and still feels really bad tbh. I'm from Finland and socialization is kinda hard for me, although I like it and want to try even though it might not be that fluent too often. But yeah, that interaction yesterday left me with a feeling of getting bullied for the first time in VRchat. Good video, this is a topic that needs a lot of discussion, especially regarding this game. All of the best. :)
The range of toxicity I get for being a furry ranges between "fuck you, you're a furry, I'm going to block you. You're a disgrace" to someone constantly circling and chasing me telling me to kill myself, and that happened one time while I was exploring Vket, which I decided to do and I public instance because I was alone and figured seeing other people roaming around we kind of fun and add to the atmosphere. The toxicity is primarily why I just hang out in at least friends Plus or higher.
@@brojoe44 I mean, I already have a friend groups that I hang out with so I don't need to go to a public instance anyway. Plus, I also don't want my avatar to be ripped and uploaded to the ripper store
@@chrisfratz Yeah no when it comes to ripper store im pretty sure it doesnt matter where you are in VRChat, i think you just have to be online and using your own avatar and it gets logged.
i dont like furry things but u can have nice conversations even with them so that kind ppl need to have a really shitty life and they are just looking someone to vent like a bully i hope in the future vrchat make safer places
I first tried vrchat literally 4 days ago and I'm just getting into it. From my experience the best way to describe it is that it is all of the best AND worst aspects of the internet rolled into one thingl. If you can't deal with criticism from people who will say things for literally no reason then you probably aren't ready.
I might be a year late but whew.. I started playing in VRC not too long ago, quite intriguing.. I went to my usual room which is quite small, it had it's up and downs but there's this one incident. This guy come up to me, give me some looks so I thought like they're taking a good look at my avatar or something... and once his mic is on, whew.. full of insults, threats and then just leave.. I have never been so confused in my entire life that I just shrug it off.
Twice: I don't understand why they're throwing hands at each other. Also Twice: Has made 2 fighting videos *Great vid by the way! Love all the Mario music*
I had a general expectation of what I’d get on VRChat because it’s anonymous online users, like in any chat lobby. Just gotta have or develop thick skin. So when I come into contact with a toxic person, I generally don’t care or mess with them. If they become annoying, I mute and hide their avatar rather than block. Once I convinced a guy that I had blocked him by completely ceasing to acknowledge his existence. He was like, “Wait, did she block me?” And his friend came up and asked if I could see him. I looked around the room, as if I couldn’t. He was like, “Dude, she totally blocked you!” Even tho they both could see me, which should have tipped them off. 😂
@@ThatSilverDude i’d rather be able to see a mute bot holding the knife or gun in a game. Blocking only helps in non-game worlds. And it’s effectively the same thing anyway. 🤷♀️
@@Jestloo it's not the same. If you block and report then that persons rank can become nuisance. just muting them or hiding the avatar enables the behavior. Actually block and report them. It helps everyone.
@@ThatSilverDude nah. No one I’ve met has been so particularly egregious to warrant something like that. Anyone can have their moments of being dumb or annoying. I’ve seen too many people abuse the block button too. I don’t care. I solve my problem just fine. 🤷♀️
Lets hope that some form of voice filters become advanced enough that the general public would play vrchat, because the community really is a dealbreaker for me playing it right now.
I encounter people like this very often… I rlly don’t care bc I don’t ever take words personally but I mean just muting people is enough or I usually just go to a different instance
The amount of times I get ganged up on simply for being British is depressing, I don’t use VR chat often because most of the time it makes me feel more lonely.
I feel like it's really interesting to see people notice, discuss and work together to solve issues in the VR space, cause it gives me heavy like, SAO vibes where the show takes real issues with general online interactions and puts them in a more emphasized form factor like VR, and now we're seeing such things happen for real. That aside though, I do really hope that with the VR's emphasis of many aspects of online interactions and the emotions they bring, people will spread awareness of the dangers and cruelty of toxic behavior. Perhaps internet as a whole could even benefit from that.
the toxic people on vrchat usually being kids who only play vrchat when their parents aren’t home. they’re screaming all the bad words and slurs they heard from school.
Nice to see a video about this, definitely had a moment or two and it’s really uncomfortable. Also the kid thing I 100% agree with, don’t want to take it away from them but also there’s a lot of things they shouldn’t see. Awesome video
its so sad that we live in a world where people have so little humility and need to be cuddled their entire life. toxicity is world wide and if you cant handle the toxicity in a video game then the world is much too scary for you.
@@benjimaxbobjohn No he's right if people cannot handle simple bullying then they are not prepared for the horrors of the real world. You are an example.
@@ThatSilverDude video games are the safest place you can imagine and yet people still cant handle it. if there is no toxicity in your world how are you supposed to enjoy the times when there is no toxicity. its impossible to have good without bad because you will have nothing to compare the good to. ying and yang or good and evil its how the world works.
Ok ok ok let me just get something off my chest. As someone who has spent a lot of money just for vrchat and has played for more than 2,000 hours AND as someone who is 17, I can say that ALL the major toxicity I've seen comes from adults. And its not surprising that most of them act the way they do. Another thing, sure, kids get the game and scream racial slurs but... their kids, kids who get this game probably have played a rated M game before soooo idk why people care about child protection now. Its usually the adults with the issues, just projection and abuse that they go through in their life after a long day at work. Its sad when I walk into a black cat and I hear "your 17 eww minor" when im probably more mature than them, its sad, I hope some of the adults in the game can get the help they need. People really need to just stop blaming the kids for everything, its the parents who let them play the game in the first place.
Iv had the opposite I have been harassed for being female or harassed saying I have a voice changer because of my voice. A lot of them are teens trying to impress their girlfriend acting cool usually they are with a female or a friend. Thankfully there's a block button, but if your shy in the game it can be a really bad target. I don't mind someone saying something silly, it's cussing at me yelling in the mic saying I am sleeping around or arguing with me harassing. Degrading words toward me as a girl :/. Lots of men who are sour about females. I'm still looking for over 18 friends to hang out with so I don't have to go in public chats '_'....
@@ribbons8678 Again, that’s another issue MEN have in general not just kids. I’m really sorry to hear that though and the reason I sympathize with the kids is because me and lots of others used to do the same as a kid and then look back and say “why did I do that”. I hope you have a better time in vrchat though.😊
Probably the funniest experience I had was another guy having a blast at Battle discs, while drinking himself, singing into the mic. He was so hilarious!
The creeps came to me when I came across someone who is a MAP... But as long as they keep it RP, I didn't mind being the cub/sho-a. So I thought by distracting them, I was saving an actual kid. 🤣
I remember when I played vrchat and I was with a little kid in McDonald’s and we drove through the drive through because some person was playing some nsfw anime sounds😑
there was this one kid who was bullying the heck outta me but all i could do was laugh. he had a fat club penguin avatar and had the worst mic quality EVER.
i actually sometimes enjoy toxicity when they dont touch certain subjects, because yk? I know they don't know me, and that i know myself and i know im not a bad person, so i just have my fun and insult them back, and if its a little kid ill find a way to annoy without insulting them because they are usually FIVE.. the only thing is that if there are multiple people being toxic there it gets annoying and i block them or leave the world, tho it doesnt happen to me like ever that multiple people are onto me annoying me and insulting me, speaking of this i havent played vrchat in like a year, damn
i dont get too much toxicity in vrchat towards me but in other games i do and it really dampens your mood, if you go around being a prick to others for no reason please re-evaluate yourself. you may think people can just forget and move on but for some its not that easy and can permanently stick with them
i had a moment of toxicity where there were 2 dudes just cuddling eachother they werent gay and someone said this: "why are you guys gay that goes against the rules of god" or something like that i tried to defend him and then i crashed, i had another moment but i dont really want to talk about that.
Fr vrchat is prettty toxic in one side,I am mute and there are always people that are adults making funs of me bcs of my disability,but in the other i have the majority who accepts me
I have found a bunch of toxic people on vrchat, and most of the time it is literally little kids who just their grubby hands on a vr headset and they just harass everyone. I hate little kids playing vrchat, they just ruin everything. I can't even find friends anymore since I am constantly finding these little kids in worlds. I just can't find any normal people who isn't obsessed with Huggy Wuggy, memes, and racism/homophobia.
For someone being toxic to me in game, I just have fun with it and watch them explode. So if it's in a game chat, I just respond,"?." If its in voice, I just respond with, "Hm?"
This video reminded me of one very important thing: to go on Krabstons show bc I have had him added since the end of the summer and keep forgetting to stay up till 1 AM to stop by
I wish there were just more moderators that could make rulings on certain stuff like bans and harrassment, and maybe a way for those in the drama of whoever is getting banned to have like a "virtual court" where the other ppl in the server can give their opinion on what happened and their opinion on the moderators decision.
I’ve been in the black cat as a public world many a times and I’ve honestly come across literal groups of underage kids running around with adult erp avatars using all the inappropriate toggles and such. The game should have a age verification system so when you set up your account your age is taken so certain aspects of the game are locked to anyone that is too young.
I've noticed the toxicity exists in mainly public worlds. Id like to find more people who use private worlds but with lots of new people. It would be nice. And just have a kid free zone. I'd like to get a group of people for movie nights and stuff.
“When she says “VRChat’s a toxic place, people just hide behind their avatar and be whatever they want to” That’s very true but that don’t mean there won’t be consequences, it’s a double edge sword with this game. Also If someone is bothering you and haven’t done anything wrong and showing people avatar stuff, then you can just block him right away and waste no time.
Vr chat has a semi nobility/hierarchy system, where higher trusted users and especially streamers or avatar modelers are very high rank, and new some new users get toxic when they realise they can just waltz in and be part of the cool club, so they act out to get attention. I have/had a known user acc, and anything under user (green rank)is muted and anim blocked, its just a smart move.
Up to now, I've only played VRChat 3 times (because laptop crashes a *lot* trying to play it) and never turned on my mic even once. Yet the last time I logged on, some random kid just started screaming at me about something and attempting to roast my default avatar 🤣
Imagine how many suicdes have happened from people making fun of others just in vr. People like myself take things very personally I've literally been bullied my whole life from my brother and still am and when I go in vr I don't want the same experience I want to make friends but at the same time I cant really do that except from getting friends from discord and shit
On the topic of kids, I think that Rec Room is a very good alternative. You can still freely chat to people, but the main focus is more on the roblox style games that people can create and play. The vast majority of people playing it are quite friendly, and it's advertised towards people who are likely too young to be on VRChat
im aro/ace and at some point when just hanging out with my brother in VRC some guy came up and told me how i was gonna die alone and that its not a real sexual identity. i kept my cool and he got SO PISSED i wasnt arguing with him or getting mad at him being mean lmao he really wanted a reaction out of me
i think they should make different account types like rec room does, a junior account, and an adult one (16+). of course a kid can just jump in and make an adult account, but i once read on reddit the idea of having a 1$ verification that shows on the credit card like "Vrchat Adult account pass" that a parent can read and know about it.
I rarely have a problem with toxicity, and if I do I never cry, but because I was born and raised in Vegas and my biological parents were both toxic nightmares I've learned not to take what they say to heart, or just be an asshole right back.
@@CattoGaming Yes. As much as it sucks there needs to be it. Not that I like it, but it's something it needs. I can't imagine a perfect vrchat where there isn't a lobby without a tiny bit of toxicity.
If VRChat can teach you anything, it's definitely that age ≠ maturity. While there is a trend, it is often violated.
Yeah, I see a lot of little boys trapped in the body of a grown man. People who never grew out of their fortnite/league troll mindset. It's sad to see, but as a great man put it; "Picture how dumb your average person is and then realize half of the rest are even dumber than that."
Best way to deal with them is to not give them the satisfaction of a reaction. Mute, block, goodbye.
I mean, I find it more common that 14 and 16 yr old bois go around screaming racial slurs a lot more than men over the age of 35, so I don't think so.
Maturity =/= age is the first step to weird pedophile acceptance.
@@AdamOwenBrowning i don't think that was the point...
and then there's the other side of that, where every now and then you encounter a youth wise beyond their years.
@@jasonfinch3631 That's a rare occurrence but it does happen. I want to say that they have a bright future ahead of them, but having been one of those kids it's hard to not be ground down by other people and become bitter and jaded. To those, I wish them the best.
The 7 year olds who just got VRChat: “It’s time to shout all the racial slurs”
Not just vr chat, every game with voice chat
They want a reaction, and slurs are like a magic spell that gets everyone in the room's attention
@@Theovates oh 100%. Literally 85% of gorilla tag are toxic little kids, and then 10% of it is toxic people who think they are better then everyone, then 5% of chill people who just wanna play a game💀
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Thank you for inviting me to do the interview with you!
Did you recover from the punches Twice threw?
@@melting7912 My face is still black and blue
@@Kitsunamiii Dang twice is pretty strong if he caused that much damage.
And she sleeps... I think the correct word was hibernate xd
@@necronight9966 nah, Nami does occasionally wake up during the day to eat and do a few other things, like work in unity and blender occasionally.
The amount of times I get shit on for just existing in vrchat is about twice, it's not much but weird that it has happened twice.
@@somewhatuninterested8989 mirror dwellers speed running debt by buying fbt to just sit in front of a mirror all day
ba dum tss
i dont play vrchat but i also get told to kill myself just for existing in tf2 im thinking of playing vrchat sometime can you tell me which server is good?
@@bunger108 if you want to play vrchat it really depends on what time you play it at. Anytime before 9pm there are typically a lot of kids which gets annoying especially when some will walk up to you and ask if you want to see something cool then pull out a cock(I usually tell them "I can't see what you are doing" and they will walk away most of the time). But for good servers it depends on what you want to do if you want to meet people to talk with Japan shrine on Europe servers is a good spot, another good one is no time two talk, it puts you in a room and every two minutes a new person gets put in for you to talk to. But if you want to chill there are plenty of worlds to relax at with friends you just gotta find what you like, and I would avoid black cat unless you want to mess with and be messed with ALOT, plus if you are on quest alot of people join with crasher avatars so that can get annoying. Just remember the best thing about vrchat is exploring all the worlds and finding new people. And good luck with the hellhole that is online VR games
@@hokagotanktime5551 thank you so much for this information
in my experience, most toxicity comes from...
1. Underage users
2. edgy teen boys being homophobes/racists (often also 1)
3. non-quest elitists
4. E-daters
5. Easily butthurt people looking for drama to substitute IRL interaction or to feed their own solipsism ("it's all about MEEE" usually have a bio with a 100,000 word bio)
6. Both the butthurt people and the edgy teens reeing at eachother and then making all the normal users' days that much worse.
furry
@@Dominik7T That's #7(;
anddd, the new players, mainly the quest ones (because thats most of the new playerbase) i really dont know why there so mad
anddd, the new players, mainly the quest ones (because thats most of the new playerbase) i really dont know why there so mad
@@unkoiboi I feel like most of them are little kids. Their parents bought quest 2 thinking they had a free babysitter lmao
I think I was 14 when a group of middle age guys started ganging up on me because I defended ANOTHER little kid they were insulting because he was singing. They called me a wh*re and a mistake and being a 14 year old it got to me. When I would try to go to a different place in the world they would follow me and tell me I couldn't leave. Luckily a group started clapping back at them but they wouldn't back down. In the end we blocked and reported them but it hurt when they called me those things all because I told them to leave the other kid alone.
Gross. As a 34 year old there is nothing cringier than adults throwing shade at young people, especially in vrchat.
It’s almost like children shouldn’t play adult games.
It’s almost like how children shouldn’t play games that aren’t for them
@@brian6391 it's literally 13+
@@brian6391 not yall gatekeeping VRchat it’s literally 13+ like the person above me said
Best way to deal with all of the toxicity is to block it on sight. Remember, with the nuisance rank if someone is blocked or muted enough times it takes a toll on that individual's standing. Can it be used maliciously? Maybe. But overall blocking people who are being awful makes things a lot better. Just don't interact with those types, don't say anything back or do anything. Just block and move on, continue having fun.
Often times I threaten the trolls with intense and obscene physical harm and that seems to do the trick! (I have a big stick that I found in my back yard that I sharpened recently, it's pretty fucked up but I've been forced to use it before in self defense situations :/ )
Wait fr? The account gets its standing affected if they keep getting blocked/muted?
In my experience I think the most standout experience with toxicity in Vrchat was in the Black Cat, I was literally just walking around an then this kid just starts speaking extremely fast and insults my character for having a mole on it, I wasn't even being an ass. I was just existing and I start getting insulted for no god damn reason.
U got packed in 💀
did you fight back at least or did he sl*ughter you verbally like an animal please tell me you attempted to engage in battle for what little remained of your eviscerated pride and not just sit there and take it like a dishrag
LMFAO
Shes right it should be 18+.
This experience comes from going up as a kid myself, its NOT the NSFW+ which was the issue, it IS talking to other people in internet chatrooms which is the issue (for me it was chatandgo) as you encounter people that aren't in your age range (that of a kid).
This being said the game should NOT be censored at all, but made for adults in mind, rather then a younger audience.
However if this game continues to want to appeal to kids rather then adults then there should be community guidelines, censorship, and much more enforcement that needs to be added.
There should be child lobbies and children shouldn’t be allowed to play with adults.
@@brian6391 I would necessarily say have child and adult lobbies exclusively, because that gates 18-year-olds off from their 17-year-old friends, for example. 18+ rated lobbies and regular ones tho for sure.
Ah, yes, Chatango. I remember those days 😅
If you below 15 stop talking about discord and vr and go read books or smth. Damn, kids fr getting some L childhoods
@@eve_______ This generation of kids are going to be the weirdest and most useless adults because they’ve been deprived the most basic developmental exercises in life like real world socializing.
Great video Twice !! I remember I was on Karaoke Central , just singing for fun and then , there was a guy saying to me " Can u stop singing ? You're really bad ." and I was ignoring , then he begin to say some bad words , but there was other people defending me and after that , the guy left the world . Again , great video Twice and I really enjoy watching your videos !!!
he started folding nami when she licked his finger i’m dead 💀💀
I was getting the cheeto dust 🙄
@@Kitsunamiii lmFAO
Hoooo boy, I remember just chilling in the library of Diluc's Tavern with some friends and this group of trolls in tiny avatars come in and start bugging us. I don't remember what they were saying but my friends blocked them and I just ignored them completely. Every time they tried to say something to me, I didn't respond or even look at them, I just kept talking to my friends. So they were like "I think he has us muted." Then one of them was like "Oh, he seems nice..." They just kinda went into their own corner and vibed. I guess they got bored since they couldn't get a reaction out of me.
Ive met a lot of adults and kids in vrc (I'm 15) most of the people are actually really kind no matter the age, but i have found a lot more toxic adults (20-40) than kids(in this case 9-13), the kids are annoying a portion of the time but there kids what can you really do, the racial slurs is a no go though cause the parents should do better in that case, and there are the chill kids who just vibe out and don't bother anyone, some actually being more mature than some adults, on the other hand, the adults are actually toxic, ofc not all but a portion, insulting people for no reason for there race, gender, if there a mute or not, what there doing, they will harass you about anything just cause they think they can, I've seen multiple grown men and women bully a kid(probably like 10) when he hadn't done anything bad, no slurs no nothing, he was just being a kid trying to have fun, they were telling him to get off the game that no one loved him and to go die, vile stuff to be saying to a kid, both age groups have there problems, like any social games of this scale do, but grownups, the fact they can be toxic and even argue with a child instead of just blocking them like an adult should to not give a kid doing something like that the attention, but instead actually harassing them which can affect a child's mind especially that young being told to die by the people there supposed to look up to as kids do, its disgusting but a reality we unfortunately have to live with
I can agree with this statement. I was in a flight simulatior on vrc and this dude had in his bio that he was 27 years old (Pretty much an adult) and as you know in flying worlds he decided to try and shoot me down as im changing my music. So i countered and shot him down i respawned and hear him yell out alot of crap to me simply cause i used flares but i still worried about him cause his behavior was unusual.
(For awhile i thought he was drunk. It was that unusual.)
But after trying to calm him down and apologize he did eventually block me simply because.
(My voice was annoying i sound like a little kid?) But it was the most confusing moment i had with a grown adult on vrc.
I don't understand why adults dont simply block the child annoying them or leave the world. I don't like kids, but insulting them and being a dick to them is just wrong and childish.
The best thing to do against adult toxicity is ignore it cuz they only want attantion/look cool to their friends. If they see no one cares theyl just stop. I do it al the time and it realy works
@@chilidemon505 exactly man
See this is why I stay mute most of the time now, and or go to places and just vibe by myself. Toxicity is just, everywhere. But it's still such a fun game to hang out in!
Same here, I stay mute and just vibe unless I can tell someone just want to have a fun chat or get to know me or if I hear an interesting conversation then I would try to join in.
Something that VRChat needs is a world moderation feature.
Adding people to a moderation team for your own world so that they can kick people from it for being toxic etc.
The owner of said world can even ban said person from your own world.
This is a way to deal with toxic people although it's still just a suggestion.
Yeah but the issue there is that there are so many instances of the same room that they just wouldn't be able to keep up you know?
Keep in mind that its just a suggestion, and it could be bound to a report system.
For places like the black cat it's impossible, and the mods themselves may just become toxic
Thats a risk that must be taken, do keep in mind that the world owner has control of those moderators. And toxicity, well there are always toxic people in the world.
This experience happened a while ago:
I was in a black cat server and me and this guy were just hanging out and then a group of people come up to us and their like “Kill your self” and “Do you have a rope cause you should hang your self” and It really hurt me deep down but I was trying to stand my ground and trying to end the argument but that didn’t work so I just went to my friends world and we were chilling, VrChat has to be one of the most toxic games I’ve ever joined.
Yesterday I talked with this girl and boy and my convo was a little awkward, in the end they just couldnt hold their laughter of my presence and started laughing at me. That felt immensely bad, and still feels really bad tbh. I'm from Finland and socialization is kinda hard for me, although I like it and want to try even though it might not be that fluent too often. But yeah, that interaction yesterday left me with a feeling of getting bullied for the first time in VRchat.
Good video, this is a topic that needs a lot of discussion, especially regarding this game. All of the best. :)
It's all good man. Atleast you tried conversating. You'll eventually develop better social skills
Hugs sent your way!
The range of toxicity I get for being a furry ranges between "fuck you, you're a furry, I'm going to block you. You're a disgrace" to someone constantly circling and chasing me telling me to kill myself, and that happened one time while I was exploring Vket, which I decided to do and I public instance because I was alone and figured seeing other people roaming around we kind of fun and add to the atmosphere. The toxicity is primarily why I just hang out in at least friends Plus or higher.
Just block em?
@@brojoe44 I mean, I already have a friend groups that I hang out with so I don't need to go to a public instance anyway. Plus, I also don't want my avatar to be ripped and uploaded to the ripper store
@@chrisfratz Yeah no when it comes to ripper store im pretty sure it doesnt matter where you are in VRChat, i think you just have to be online and using your own avatar and it gets logged.
i dont like furry things but u can have nice conversations even with them so that kind ppl need to have a really shitty life and they are just looking someone to vent like a bully
i hope in the future vrchat make safer places
it's hard to have an honest conversation with someone that looks like they came straight off the discount shelf at Petco
I first tried vrchat literally 4 days ago and I'm just getting into it. From my experience the best way to describe it is that it is all of the best AND worst aspects of the internet rolled into one thingl. If you can't deal with criticism from people who will say things for literally no reason then you probably aren't ready.
god i want to get into it but i do not have thick enough skin for this 😭
thats insults, not criticism, people who live on vrchat are completely incapable of giving criticism
@@bluestar8779 exactly
@@steviebea just block and move on
I agree I feel like you just have to not take it personally since the people on there don't know you and are just there to be nasty
VRChat for me is literally watching youtube / sleeping but in a different and better space than what is irl
I might be a year late but whew..
I started playing in VRC not too long ago, quite intriguing.. I went to my usual room which is quite small, it had it's up and downs but there's this one incident. This guy come up to me, give me some looks so I thought like they're taking a good look at my avatar or something... and once his mic is on, whew.. full of insults, threats and then just leave..
I have never been so confused in my entire life that I just shrug it off.
Got here quite early thanks to the discord! If your reading this make sure to join twice’s discord server!
Twice: I don't understand why they're throwing hands at each other.
Also Twice: Has made 2 fighting videos
*Great vid by the way! Love all the Mario music*
I had a general expectation of what I’d get on VRChat because it’s anonymous online users, like in any chat lobby. Just gotta have or develop thick skin.
So when I come into contact with a toxic person, I generally don’t care or mess with them. If they become annoying, I mute and hide their avatar rather than block.
Once I convinced a guy that I had blocked him by completely ceasing to acknowledge his existence. He was like, “Wait, did she block me?” And his friend came up and asked if I could see him. I looked around the room, as if I couldn’t. He was like, “Dude, she totally blocked you!” Even tho they both could see me, which should have tipped them off. 😂
Just block the annoying ones. Helps everyone out in the long run.
@@ThatSilverDude i’d rather be able to see a mute bot holding the knife or gun in a game. Blocking only helps in non-game worlds. And it’s effectively the same thing anyway. 🤷♀️
@@Jestloo it's not the same. If you block and report then that persons rank can become nuisance. just muting them or hiding the avatar enables the behavior. Actually block and report them. It helps everyone.
@@ThatSilverDude nah. No one I’ve met has been so particularly egregious to warrant something like that. Anyone can have their moments of being dumb or annoying. I’ve seen too many people abuse the block button too. I don’t care. I solve my problem just fine. 🤷♀️
Lets hope that some form of voice filters become advanced enough that the general public would play vrchat, because the community really is a dealbreaker for me playing it right now.
2:24 perfect example of why no one can have sh*t in public worlds. :/ I hope one day the world becomes a better, safer and more accepting place.
I encounter people like this very often… I rlly don’t care bc I don’t ever take words personally but I mean just muting people is enough or I usually just go to a different instance
The amount of times I get ganged up on simply for being British is depressing, I don’t use VR chat often because most of the time it makes me feel more lonely.
Twice, you are gonna make me get an Oculus Quest when the new one comes out :D
Love this VRChat Thing
I feel like it's really interesting to see people notice, discuss and work together to solve issues in the VR space, cause it gives me heavy like, SAO vibes where the show takes real issues with general online interactions and puts them in a more emphasized form factor like VR, and now we're seeing such things happen for real.
That aside though, I do really hope that with the VR's emphasis of many aspects of online interactions and the emotions they bring, people will spread awareness of the dangers and cruelty of toxic behavior.
Perhaps internet as a whole could even benefit from that.
3:34 made me laugh. The silent damn never hit harder
Ur cousin Marvin a menace and hes great 🤣🤣
the toxic people on vrchat usually being kids who only play vrchat when their parents aren’t home. they’re screaming all the bad words and slurs they heard from school.
Nice to see a video about this, definitely had a moment or two and it’s really uncomfortable. Also the kid thing I 100% agree with, don’t want to take it away from them but also there’s a lot of things they shouldn’t see. Awesome video
its so sad that we live in a world where people have so little humility and need to be cuddled their entire life. toxicity is world wide and if you cant handle the toxicity in a video game then the world is much too scary for you.
Found the annoying toxic child.
@@ThatSilverDude annoying toxic grown man*
@@benjimaxbobjohn No he's right if people cannot handle simple bullying then they are not prepared for the horrors of the real world. You are an example.
@@ThatSilverDude that goes fer you too.
@@ThatSilverDude video games are the safest place you can imagine and yet people still cant handle it. if there is no toxicity in your world how are you supposed to enjoy the times when there is no toxicity. its impossible to have good without bad because you will have nothing to compare the good to. ying and yang or good and evil its how the world works.
Maybe there should be a seperate vrchat platform for kids *only* might be a good idea, or an age verifier with an ID type of thing.
good and interesting content as always, keep the good work coming!
Ok ok ok let me just get something off my chest. As someone who has spent a lot of money just for vrchat and has played for more than 2,000 hours AND as someone who is 17, I can say that ALL the major toxicity I've seen comes from adults. And its not surprising that most of them act the way they do. Another thing, sure, kids get the game and scream racial slurs but... their kids, kids who get this game probably have played a rated M game before soooo idk why people care about child protection now. Its usually the adults with the issues, just projection and abuse that they go through in their life after a long day at work. Its sad when I walk into a black cat and I hear "your 17 eww minor" when im probably more mature than them, its sad, I hope some of the adults in the game can get the help they need. People really need to just stop blaming the kids for everything, its the parents who let them play the game in the first place.
Iv had the opposite I have been harassed for being female or harassed saying I have a voice changer because of my voice. A lot of them are teens trying to impress their girlfriend acting cool usually they are with a female or a friend. Thankfully there's a block button, but if your shy in the game it can be a really bad target. I don't mind someone saying something silly, it's cussing at me yelling in the mic saying I am sleeping around or arguing with me harassing. Degrading words toward me as a girl :/. Lots of men who are sour about females. I'm still looking for over 18 friends to hang out with so I don't have to go in public chats '_'....
@@ribbons8678 Again, that’s another issue MEN have in general not just kids. I’m really sorry to hear that though and the reason I sympathize with the kids is because me and lots of others used to do the same as a kid and then look back and say “why did I do that”. I hope you have a better time in vrchat though.😊
@@ribbons8678 most of the toxicity come from girls to me and I’m a female, kind of weird since we are supposed to support women lmao..
because as you mentionde - "mature". someone(ekem alot of people) can be 30 and still be inmature
i went to a world literally yesterday and had a guy call me a terrorist because im irish. bio said he was 19 :/
This explains my behavior to be honest I hop on VR chat and start harassing people
This man be talking about ver chat when the real problem is rec room
recroom is hell on earth(/the internet)
I love your videos and the quality you put into them is stunning! I actually saw you in one of those asl lessons from a previous video!
Probably the funniest experience I had was another guy having a blast at Battle discs, while drinking himself, singing into the mic. He was so hilarious!
I don't meet strangers in VRC much unless I have the energy. Hanging out with friends is pretty much all I do.
I can agree with this, it does not bother me but if it does bother you, just block them and be over with it.
As a nice kind and caregiving kid of VR chat I've experienced some shit I wish I could just pour my eyes with lava.
this made me wanna go be toxic in vr chat 😈😈😈😈😈
That come back had me rolling
The creeps came to me when I came across someone who is a MAP... But as long as they keep it RP, I didn't mind being the cub/sho-a. So I thought by distracting them, I was saving an actual kid. 🤣
The world I've always experienced the least amount of toxicity in has been the experimental ASL UDON world
I remember when I played vrchat and I was with a little kid in McDonald’s and we drove through the drive through because some person was playing some nsfw anime sounds😑
Yyesss i really want to see a video based on fbt dancers cause that is such a big thing in vrchat
there was this one kid who was bullying the heck outta me but all i could do was laugh. he had a fat club penguin avatar and had the worst mic quality EVER.
This guy reminds me of those cyber-bulling teachers ngl. Keep doing this it's great for mental support to people in VRchat.
i actually sometimes enjoy toxicity when they dont touch certain subjects, because yk? I know they don't know me, and that i know myself and i know im not a bad person, so i just have my fun and insult them back, and if its a little kid ill find a way to annoy without insulting them because they are usually FIVE.. the only thing is that if there are multiple people being toxic there it gets annoying and i block them or leave the world, tho it doesnt happen to me like ever that multiple people are onto me annoying me and insulting me, speaking of this i havent played vrchat in like a year, damn
the misogyny that happens in VRchat is ridiculous like not even in VR do we get an escape from toxic men
Another absolutely great video thank you for the great content my opinion and hopefully everybodies!3>
i dont get too much toxicity in vrchat towards me but in other games i do and it really dampens your mood, if you go around being a prick to others for no reason please re-evaluate yourself. you may think people can just forget and move on but for some its not that easy and can permanently stick with them
no
i had a moment of toxicity where there were 2 dudes just cuddling eachother they werent gay and someone said this: "why are you guys gay that goes against the rules of god" or something like that i tried to defend him and then i crashed, i had another moment but i dont really want to talk about that.
Fr vrchat is prettty toxic in one side,I am mute and there are always people that are adults making funs of me bcs of my disability,but in the other i have the majority who accepts me
The work that one person was talking about is antagonizing not interrogating
I have found a bunch of toxic people on vrchat, and most of the time it is literally little kids who just their grubby hands on a vr headset and they just harass everyone. I hate little kids playing vrchat, they just ruin everything. I can't even find friends anymore since I am constantly finding these little kids in worlds. I just can't find any normal people who isn't obsessed with Huggy Wuggy, memes, and racism/homophobia.
Thank you for recording me spitting on my friend a minute in at the strip club
For someone being toxic to me in game, I just have fun with it and watch them explode. So if it's in a game chat, I just respond,"?." If its in voice, I just respond with, "Hm?"
Thanks for giving me a better understanding to put my words into place in my own mind
This video reminded me of one very important thing: to go on Krabstons show bc I have had him added since the end of the summer and keep forgetting to stay up till 1 AM to stop by
4:17 the word is antagonizing
Once I saw somone dox a kidwho had a german accent for "acting like a nazi" when he was just german.
I wish there were just more moderators that could make rulings on certain stuff like bans and harrassment, and maybe a way for those in the drama of whoever is getting banned to have like a "virtual court" where the other ppl in the server can give their opinion on what happened and their opinion on the moderators decision.
Modern Warfare 2 lobbies have really evolved over the years.
I’ve been in the black cat as a public world many a times and I’ve honestly come across literal groups of underage kids running around with adult erp avatars using all the inappropriate toggles and such. The game should have a age verification system so when you set up your account your age is taken so certain aspects of the game are locked to anyone that is too young.
people have to remember the stuff online people say they would never say it to your face in real life
I have played vr for about a few weeks and ive experience so much toxicity
No don’t tell me vrchat has got the toxicity too😭
i avoid the black cat and that one movie world at ALL COSTS. i joined for 2 seconds and was immediately called a slur
Your videos are so entertaining! Keep up the good work
The internet can be a mean and hurtful place sometimes
Dating in VRchat should be his next
I've noticed the toxicity exists in mainly public worlds. Id like to find more people who use private worlds but with lots of new people. It would be nice. And just have a kid free zone. I'd like to get a group of people for movie nights and stuff.
I can be your friend
Extremely accurate, Nami does sleep very often
Me literally feeding off the toxicity because it's nothing compared to the bs irl. Lmao
I think with VRchat the most popular worlds they should have a moderator of some sort to keep the place safe
I’ve been called the hard R multiple times
“When she says “VRChat’s a toxic place, people just hide behind their avatar and be whatever they want to” That’s very true but that don’t mean there won’t be consequences, it’s a double edge sword with this game. Also If someone is bothering you and haven’t done anything wrong and showing people avatar stuff, then you can just block him right away and waste no time.
Vr chat has a semi nobility/hierarchy system, where higher trusted users and especially streamers or avatar modelers are very high rank, and new some new users get toxic when they realise they can just waltz in and be part of the cool club, so they act out to get attention. I have/had a known user acc, and anything under user (green rank)is muted and anim blocked, its just a smart move.
Dude this is like the 1% of vrchat toxicitly, I witness things dude, I can talk alot on this story.
just cause toxicity won't end, saying it needs to stop isn't a useless notion
Please teach us how to counter those toxic people like that. that was awesome
I love being toxic but i dont cross the line with my content
Serenity Sleepover is a Great place to chill wish I knew about it before the black cat
Up to now, I've only played VRChat 3 times (because laptop crashes a *lot* trying to play it) and never turned on my mic even once. Yet the last time I logged on, some random kid just started screaming at me about something and attempting to roast my default avatar 🤣
Imagine how many suicdes have happened from people making fun of others just in vr. People like myself take things very personally I've literally been bullied my whole life from my brother and still am and when I go in vr I don't want the same experience I want to make friends but at the same time I cant really do that except from getting friends from discord and shit
On the topic of kids, I think that Rec Room is a very good alternative. You can still freely chat to people, but the main focus is more on the roblox style games that people can create and play. The vast majority of people playing it are quite friendly, and it's advertised towards people who are likely too young to be on VRChat
im aro/ace and at some point when just hanging out with my brother in VRC some guy came up and told me how i was gonna die alone and that its not a real sexual identity. i kept my cool and he got SO PISSED i wasnt arguing with him or getting mad at him being mean lmao he really wanted a reaction out of me
i think they should make different account types like rec room does, a junior account, and an adult one (16+).
of course a kid can just jump in and make an adult account, but i once read on reddit the idea of having a 1$ verification that shows on the credit card like "Vrchat Adult account pass" that a parent can read and know about it.
BE NICE EVEN TO THE MEAN KIDS be nice even to the mean kids BE NICE, *EVEN* TO THE MEAN KIDS!
I rarely have a problem with toxicity, and if I do I never cry, but because I was born and raised in Vegas and my biological parents were both toxic nightmares I've learned not to take what they say to heart, or just be an asshole right back.
10 year olds for no reason at all: “Time for the ultimate gamer move” **proceeds to pewdiepie bridge**
Toxicity is something needed in vrchat. Honestly there has to be balance.
No?
@@CattoGaming Yes. As much as it sucks there needs to be it. Not that I like it, but it's something it needs. I can't imagine a perfect vrchat where there isn't a lobby without a tiny bit of toxicity.
and lack of social skills since alot of people playing games are traumatized and just want to get away from the real world
Ah! Dude this is the first time I see face tracking in VRchat! So fucking trippy I can't wait to use it myself