APARTMENT 17 - Ten Minutes For Two Dollars
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Game: curiaproductio... ($2)
"Apartment 17" is the latest from the "Deceit" developer. Yep. It's about a musically-inclined apartment complex haunted by a spooky ghost. Thanks for watching!
So let me get this straight.
The developer illegally used comic book covers for no reason, stole the night 5 phone call audio from fnaf, and used a possibly real 911 call for his piece of shit game. Absolutely Disgusting
If you check the comments, the call IS real....which is horrifying to put in a paid product.
Yep...someone reached the lowest of low. Didn't think it was possible.
As if the comments are in any way credible. There is credible evidence to suggest that the video was used for training purposes and was staged (You can't release 9/11 calls that involve death). Despite that I like to assume it is real just to be on the safe side. The point is, just because it is said in the comments and has a bunch of likes doesn't mean it is absolute truth.
Don't forget that some people in the comments are saying that the newspaper is also real. No idea the legitimacy of these claims, but considering everything else in the game, it isn't too crazy a proposition.
This is just all around a very classy and tasteful developer.
It was real as well.
Seriously, so much respect to you John for how you run your channel and your honesty. We need people like you here on TH-cam, so thanks!
AaronSayWhat what a coincidence I'm subbed to you and John
So true!
AaronSayWhat, that is what I was about to say as well.
great minds think alike John is an awesome and caring and respectful guy need more like him.
Not only does the dev steal copyrighted material, FNAF audio, and also slapping Sonys logo on that tv, they took it upon themselves to take a real 911 phone call of someone getting murdered and think it's okay? And ask people to PAY for it? What the hell is wrong with these game developers now a days? I don't think they even deserve to get called that. Get a refund ASAP if possible.
They didn't make the TV. I've seen that exact not-Sony TV in a couple of other games, including a tech demo for The Works of Mercy.
I would be shocked if anything featured in this game was actually made by the dev, considering the obvious.
The name of the game perhaps?
+CURIA PRODUCTION You can't just take images from Google to put in your paid product. Doing so just opens you up to copyright infringement.
Using the real newspaper clipping about a real murder victim just makes you shitty. Even if you didn't know it was real, you should have just made your own or something.
"c'mon guys, all I did were the things you're accusing me of"
It's still not fucking okay, this is a paid product. If the things you took from the internet was transformed in a way that actually fits the environment, people would be more than okay. But no, you didn't even do that.
Another apartment horror game? Are we gonna get some breakfast, toast... cornflakes?
LMFAAAAOOOO 😂 😂 😂. That was great!👍👍👍. But seriously every horror game coming out now takes place in either a house or an apartment. I blame it on the Silent Hills demo 😉.
thank you man. thanks so much
Where is my cornflakes
These games don't even take place at Uncle Bub's apartment. 0/10 for all of them! Needs more cornflakes!
we can't even fit in the kitchen. for such an enormous apt tiny kitchen. wonderful design!!
I respect your decision to remove the call, rather fake or not. Making money off of someone elses death, although done on a daily basis i presume, is down right distasteful. Steam should ban the game and all profits should be seized and released to the family.
I don't think this game is actually on Steam, just itch.io. I'm not sure what their policies are in comparison to Steam, as I've never actually used itch.io, but I do agree with your sentiment.
You should already know that will not happen. Nobody ever has their profits seized for a controversial image, video, or sound in their indie game. The courts don't take any action in these cases. And its even harder when you are talking about people from other countries like Russia (which is where a lot of these games come from). As far as we are concerned, the guy is untouchable. Plus, that would mean youtube and many other video hosting sites would be shut down immediately if this was possible. It only takes a quick 2 minute search to find real death videos online. Hell, there is an entire sub-reddit dedicated to this called "r/watchpeopledie".
KingPurp Itch.io has now thankfully taken the game down
@@Halo3machenima as fucked up as it is, this is correct. Technically the recording is public record but it's still scummy for someone to use it for personal (monetizing) gain
The 911 call he was talking about was real. The girl is alive, but she was raped. Its horrendous that they put that in a terrible game.
Edit: I think i listened to the wrong one or I just interpreted it wrong and thought she was alive.
it's disgusting how someone could do that. I don't know how you could have an *actual* phone call like that in your profited game. That phone call is really disturbing.
Why are you so triggered? If anything, its authentic which enriches the experiences. SMH.
I agree. I'm really glad he kept it out I definitely didn't want to hear it...
Delta, there's a fine line between entertainment something being real.
If they're making money off of the sound of someone actually dying, that's pretty fucked up.
+ButtPirate why do so many people watch movies "based on true stories" with " actual" audio from exorcisms and what not.
+ButtPirate your going to cry if it's in a game but not if its in a movie which I reaches millions of more people ?
Man, the Developer using an actual recording of the tragic death of a person is probably just as low, if not lower then that kid who used an image of a girl who committed suicide and photoshoping it to create the Jeff the Killer picture.
Why are you so triggered? If anything, its authentic which enriches the experiences. SMH.
It's a really shitty thing to do, man... Not to mention the dev is breaking copyright rules by using real comic covers and audio from FNAF, more than likely without Scott's permission.
+DeltaTheAwsome PSYFrame
Person: Someone died in that call, that's horrible.
You: What's this SJW bullshit lol?
+DeltaTheAweful (By the ruiling of Prussia, you don't deserve to have 'Awesome' in your name)
Maybe because it was an actual human being murdered and her last moments alive and the fear she felt are being used to make a profit because some sick fuck thinks it's entertaining.
+DeltaTheAwsome PSYFrame you can't really enrich a turd
I applaud you for not including that audio.
That first newspaper article is real. I live about an hour away from Tulsa OK and Idk I guess I think it's a little sick to use the exact newspaper clipping that's about a real victim of a serial killer ??? maybe I'm oversensitive but I feel this developer steps over more bounds than just copyright infringement.
Also don't get me wrong... that is NOT as sick as using that 911 call... all I'm saying is that this developer is kind of sick all the way around. It wasn't just the 911 call that was real that he used.
Yeah, I live 40 mins away from Tulsa myself and felt sick matching the images up. Zero respect for the dead, and I heard the game was taken down? So there's a bit of good news.
My hometown is Tulsa I live in coweta now and this def made me sick like for real who does this? Who uses real stuff for something that’s supposed to be fun
raveninneverland - makes it worse with that sound effect over it
Oversensitive af
Congratulations, John! You've officially found the world's sickest developer! I mean wow! I am speechless. I feel disgusted for even thinking good of this foul game.
This is pretty bad, but Sad Satan is (or was) worse. Like, it literally contained illegal images. I kinda doubt it's the same developer, too.
I agree that the developer may have crossed the line but this call was said to have been staged by the police department themselves to show 911 call receivers the dangers of not immediately asking the location of someone in distress, if you search this case up you’ll find no definitive headlines or news articles, so the developer was within bounds to do this
@@MrDubious ok yeah THAT is way worse. It shows gore, which is fucked. It's fucking terrible
@@jacobluatuanuu8910 i heard that the call was actually call and police people use it to show why you ask the person where they live before anything else
I think the "ruth" 911 call was a staged training call to teach new dispatchers what not to do. Why you need to get info like name of the caller, location of the crime, description of the perpetrator(s). I tried to sreach for the origins of the call and have found nothing. Now there are 100s of 911 calls everyday so you aren't going to find every call. However there is a chance that it is real so it's still scum of the dev to put it in for profit.
for the 17th floor (penthouse?), the honking of cars sure is loud! can't imagine the torture the lower floor residents must go through every day/night...
also did JJ Abrams make this game geez
I thought they were harmonicas!
tailor31415 Why the fuck would apartment 17 be on the 17th floor? Why would there only be one apartment per floor? Jfc
@@wollsmoth69 well.. Its a penthouse.
xoxCassyUwUxox uwu Little too much suspension of disbelief there.
Now, while this game is made in Unreal, I shall still quote the Unity Engine Manual : "Be discrete about your usage of Lens Flares".
There is a place for lens flare - in a situation in which the camera is just that - a camera. Lens flare should never be used in any instance in which we are viewing things directly through the eye of a protagonist.
I dont know about Unity but in Unreal Lens Flares generate automatically based on certain lighting situations. You can of course adjust them, alter them, or turn them off, but they do generate on their own as a post process of sorts. That being said, this dude should of just gone and not made the backgrounds so bright + turn it off cause both look atrocious
If your protagonist has glasses lens flare is okay.
I've worn glasses every day since I was nine...no lens flares so far.
Chris Lee Same. Was just making a joke.
Thanks for leaving the call out John. I've listened to some disturbing 911 calls before and I always ended up crying because, call me a wuss, but I tend to connect to everything emotionally so I felt so horrible that something as messed up as I heard had actually happened to another person. I can still hear and feel their fear, which means something since I suffer from memory loss and can't even remember 5 minutes ago. You saved me a lot with that one, and I'm sorry you had to hear it.
Side note: It wasn't just the call that was real, the news clipping is too. The person who made this game is distrubing and just sicking that they thought this was okay to do.
I totally agree with and respect that decision too. It's nothing to make light of in the slightest.
I disagree, i would have at least wanted to read what the woman said in the call/CD. I was able to find it and if it is the right one it's an elderly lady/woman calling 911 stressed/worried/scared because there was a person "looking for an apartment close to her house" she doesn t say much but after that ... well look for it. He could have warned the viewers about this but you can t say "I don t like scary things and then remove the scary part of a game", I agree on the moral part that if this is a real video it inmoral (to some of you/readers) to let him profit from this but it is uncertain if this is a real audio.
This happens mostly because of the new restrictions of youtube, the concern of youtubers of losing their accounts and etc.
+ It is not that easy to find.
Krieg Piazzolla I understand that taking away the things that make something scary because you don't like scary things is stupid, but that's not what's going on here. It's not removed because it's scary but because it actually is a real event that happened and it can be very traumatizing. The most aweful thing you can do to someone is break them mentally, because that can never go away. It wasn't scary, it was more sad and heartbreaking more than anything. Being able to hear someone's life end as they call for help, to most, it's something that can break you. It wouldn't be as bad if they made the audio themselves based off a script, but they were too good for that apparently and thought it would be just as effective or more to get real audio. It is actually real by the way.
You can't blame the TH-cam monotization for him removing it because he didn't do it for them. John did it because there are way more people in the world who would be affected by it negatively that he would rather not show it in respect to them rather than just because he won't get paid if he doesn't. I'm not trying to say he didn't do it for that reason, I mean to keep the vid monotized is at least one of the reasons, but it's not an important one compared to affecting people negatively.
Forgive me if I'd rather not listen to the audio, but I'm an Empath and I can't just listen to it and hope for the possiblity that it's fake and try not to feel. I hate how sappy I sound, but I just don't know how to explain.
I appreciate the fact you agree that what the game developer did was horrible, though. Sorry about the long text.
I heard the 911 call on RiskRim's video on this game. It's disturbing.
+Kier Lindsey maybe it's public audio, maybe some people that get disturbed easily shouldn't be watching horror games (or maybe if the game is that disturbing they should put a disclaimer?), but do you not think that someone making fucking cash off the sound of an old lady fucking dying is sick? Because I feel like most people would disagree.
John, you are a solid, decent guy. God, that newspaper clipping pissed me right the hell off, too.
He is, i’ve seen his true form
Was the newspaper clipping real too? What a shame
*is a woman and watches truecrime youtube podcasts with sponsorships*
I'm pretty sure that second phone call was stolen audio. It sounded like the Night 5 audio from the original FNAF.
it totally was, eesh
+Panda Bear Copyright 101
it is
+Praise the Sun It isn't. It's from a paid game.
So this person used copyrighted comic covers, Night 5 FNAF audio, and (possibly) a real 911 phone call of a woman getting murdered and somehow thought it was okay to use in a paid product.
What is wrong with this dev??
I was a 911 dispatcher for a while, and I respect John so much for taking that call out of the video. Things like that can be so horrendously triggering for such a wide array of people. I love horror games and movies so much, but things like this are thoughtless grabs at the genre. Shock value does not equal quality horror, and I think a lot of devs, writers, etc need to learn that.
1 min in: Oh, this looks very professional, the graphics are lovely
5 mins in: _Don't judge a book by its cover, please_
Game with full lens flare and full light effects: Gud
Hey John, it was nice of you to skip the audio. That's not something you see a youtuber do everyday (being concerned about its audience). Keep up the good work with your videos!
By the way, as it is my first comment, really nice portuguese you have! I'm always impressed when I see you reading or listening something in portuguese.
Are your brazilian or portuguese? Brazilian here \o
+Krauser BR!
What the heck.... Putting an actual 911 call of a person being killed in the game, AND profiting from this crosses the line on so many levels. I'm so glad you didn't include that footage in your playthrough John.
wow John, thank you for cutting out the 911 call and for continuing being a decent person!! Again why I am a huge fan of yours. I am sorry for the shock you must have had finding that out and how horrible of the creature who put it in their game and is making money off it. Again thank you because horror is fun because it isn't real.
Yo John, that newspaper clipping featured in the game and on the game's download page is an ACTUAL murder that happened in 1945. So, not only was the call ripped off from someone else's actual death (debated) that newspaper story was the real deal.
Link to the story:www.tulsaworld.com/news/waybackwhen/throwback-tulsa-fiendish-serial-killer-terrorized-city-in-s/article_81d22eb2-1c7a-5b4d-bc53-489f2ae1d7c5.html
By the way, that photo cannot be downloaded. You're supposed to purchase the rights to use it. I'm going to take a wild guess here and say this developer most likely used a screenshot of the article for that insert.
I really hope this game gets removed from itch.io.
Are you fucking kidding me. I didn't even think to google the newspaper clipping. Should have known after googling the phone call that nothing in this game was actually made by the dev... Wow.
How fucking pathetic do you have to be to exploit REAL PHOTOGRAPHS & AUDIO of REAL PEOPLE as props in your thrown-together mess of a game. That is absolutely disgusting. Is there no respect for the dead or their families? Fuck.
Well, at least the game was removed? But that doesn't change the fact that what CuriaProductions did was fucking awful. I haven't had time to go through every response down below but from what I saw they don't seem to feel they did anything wrong.
Anyway, I hope you (and anyone else who purchased this) got/will get your money back and I sincerely hope this developer never releases another game. Holy shit...
thanks for being so courteous to your viewers, john. being respectful of those sensitive to light as well as the 911 call. even if it was fake, better to be safe than sorry. and great points at the end of the vid, games should definitely take more than just 2 months to be of any quality. hell the dev probably just tossed it on itchio to make some cash on it, since there's no refund
5:47 That sounds like the same distorted audio from FNAF 1 on night 5.
it is
Lazy
It is...this dev really likes stealing stuff don't they?
it is
They are the same sounds..
The dev of this game has a lot to answer for. Copyright comics in a monetized game and a real 911 call with someone who actually dies.
911 call aside (...which, JFC) I agree with your commentary at the end. Once your weekend project has a price tag, you've raised the bar on yourself and have to be willing to meet it. (My background is in writing, where it goes without saying that only utter prima donnas try to sell a first draft.)
Yeah, exactly. A lot of the "indie horror games" I play feel like first drafts - one and done!
I remember that 911 call, I read it's fake for testing 911 dispatchers. Or the internet could be wrong about that, it happens.
In instances like this: nobody really seems to know. It all just devolves into "He said, she said" BS. Nobody seems ready to divulge info about shit like this. Everyone is too sensitive to the point that they don't even want to discuss this stuff even if it could mean justice gets served.
Thanks for not including the call. Really glad I didn't have to hear it. Horror is horror, but there's no effing need to bring in real cases and real lives into a product that is supposed to be for entertainment purposes.
PS: Should give the dev the benefit of the doubt, however. He/she may not be aware that it was a real call. I remember some game that used an image of the James Bulger murder when he was being led away in the shopping mall, and it had to be taken down in the UK. Devs didnt know it was a real abduction/murder.
It's true that the dev may not have known. It's hard to feel much sympathy for them in that respect though, they should have just made their own recording.
The newspaper clipping used in the video (I didn't know this at the time) is also real, featuring the photograph of a real murder victim. So if they didn't know, it seems like quite a coincidence that they would feature TWO real murder victims in this 10-minute game.
To the weird people out there who are pissed because the phone called isn't included:
Well sorry if listening to someone being killed for real is disturbing for a lot of people... you call this being a delicate flower, I call it empathy and being mentally balanced.
Now if listening to people dying or ever watching them please you, I'm sure you can, unfortunately, find fucked up things that will entertain you, like snuff movies and others...
Further proof that John is not only an awesome LPer, but an awesome person too.
Pretty sure the ruth call is real. There's another game(I forget what it's called but Jim Sterling ranted on about it) that did the same thing but it was a very popular one of a little girl calling the police about how her parents have been murdered.
Yeah, it's pretty disgusting.
The Ruth one is the old lady call, right? If so, it's pretty uh... Unsettling.
The Archetype - it's an 8 year old girl calling the police while her mother is being beaten by her father.
The story has a somewhat bittersweet ending. Someone tracked down the girl and found her in her own abusive relationship. She got out and is now doing talks on Domestic Abuse.
@Shark etype omg! bless her soul
I've gone and checked out what John has cut out. That was indeed really disturbing and messed up. It's better that he didn't include it in the video because that was really shocking, even to me.
i wonder if the developer is getting bombarded with negative emails. They deserve it. This is what happens when "creators" try way too damn hard to be edgy.
"everything i dont like is edgy" grow up kid
hahaha
"edgy" I'm sorry how was the creator being edgy? It seems to me that you're just some kid that calls terrible things edgy because you don't know what it means but you want to fit in. And your reply to mariofalz supports that idea. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the dev. But seriously... "edgy"
@@parcelpasser552 edgy applies to anything trying to hard to be cool and only managing to be cringeworthy in the process, wich i think fits this like a glove. Going as far as using a real 911 call to try and look cool and mature is, very much, edgy
@@ryokiritani4187 hello, fellow John Wolfe bingewatcher
I know this is an old video, but my respect for you just went through the roof. I used to work 911, and have had to listen to two people die. I can't tell you how much I appreciate that you cut out the call and your comments about the developer using it in their game. That shit's traumatizing, and shouldn't be exploited for entertainment.
Whether or not its fake, I give John a lot of respect for following his conscience.
Thank you for being a classier type of TH-camr. It makes me proud to be a subscriber of this channel.
Hi, I do some 3D environment art here and there. And I can say that games like this...games that look and feel as though they've been created in a weekend,... probably were.
Right now I'm working on some assets; a wooden chair, and a wooden table. Both of which take about 1-2 days to block out, sculpt, retopologize, unwrap, bake high- to low poly maps, and paint the diffuse/albedo/colour map.
If a game looks and feels like less effort has been put into it than it takes for me to create a lousy, simple, wooden chair... why would anyone even have to pay for your product?
They're a disgrace to the industry, and give indie devs a bad name.
That's all, thank you.
Including a real 911 call of someone getting murdered is incredibly disrespectful to the deceased. Even if the call is fake, the one who acted well enough to sound like they were being murdered deserves the credit.
thank you for cutting out the 911 call. that's why you're my favorite youtuber: you're smart and know how to be respectful. i never have to worry about hearing tasteless, offensive, insensitive jokes when i come to your channel. theres so many youtubers i won't watch because they make homophobic, racist, sexist jokes constantly and it eventually wears down on you. you're a genuinely great person and i have so much respect for you!
Respect to you. I don't blame you for editing that out. And it shows respect for her family. Thanks for being a decent human being. Seems to be hard to find these days. I love your channel.
It’s been confirmed that Ruth (the women in the call) survived for anyone curious years later.
It's actually unknown whether she survived or not. Despite that, the call is often used as an example of why you should always get the caller's address before anything else.
@@LifetimeDisasterActually, it was very recently found out that she survived. Like, people found newspaper articles and whatnot regarding the attack. She fought off the attacker (who then ran off) and Ruth lived for another decade, at least. I can't remember the exact years, but I know the call is from the early to mid 80s and she lived until the late 90s early 2000s! 😊
It was unknown whether or not she survived for sometime, yes, but it was in the last year or 2ish when the breakthrough happened for people doing research on the case. The reason no one could ever find an obituary for her, is because she didn't die! lol. She's a badass and fought the attacker off even though she was an older lady! Ruth is awesome.🤘
You're a good man John. Thank you for that edit.
Props to you for being cautious. How sick is it to want to profit from a possible murder?
Hey, I just want to say that you are one on the best gaming channels now, you really care about your audience and that's amazing.
With this many lens flares, I would expect the fucking Starship Enterprise to be flying around outside.
I'm 100% convinced this dev is a little sick fuck, even going to the lengths of intentionally putting siezure inducing lens flares and not having a siezure warning because he's that sick
You're a good man John! I respect that you respect these kinds of things~
Nobody cares about you
Using the sounds of someone getting murdered and putting two dollars on your game, wow...
*Ten
very noble of you to skip the 911 call. kudos!
I agree with the speech you gave at the end, and the games both apartment 17 and deceit got deleted. I make music and what you said it's true, for me I listen what I do thousands of times until it sounds the way I want it to sound and then release it. These developers really just wants profit from crap games, and what made me feel very upset was the fact this developer put that call in there, it was very disrespectful. Good video man, cheers.
Thank you for your discretion with the call. People don't understand what impact gore hounds have on victims and friends. Thank you.
the points you hit on in this video John about the 911 call and the creating process I highly agree with you on. It's different when you are talking about events that have happened and giving backstory to a 911 call and sharing it that but putting it in you game 'cause it fits your plot is just out right rude and not necessary, like they could have made their own recording and used it instead.
The creative process, agreed with you on all the points. It takes time and many passes. I know when I create a piece of art it goes through many stages before I have a finish product/piece, I'll thumbnail and concept, sketch and rough sketch, tight sketch, ink and re-ink, flat color, touchup, get advice, step away come back edit then finish, it takes time to craft something that is worth handing out to the masses and being like "I made this"
The less effort you put into something people will notice and not want it or anything to do with you as a creator, time, effort, love and care for a project is key to make a good thing
This whole video summarize perfectly why John is my favourite youtuber. He is funny but always professional and with standards. Thank you for your hard work and for providing us with entertainment without being afraid of handle things your way!
John, you're one of the best youtubers, not alot of people would skip that 911 call, good for you man, good for you.
I really respect you John, for not playing that 911 call even if others say it was fake. It’s better to be safe, and respectful. Even the makers of horror movies like Annabelle don’t use the actual doll or actual people who were involved. You did the right thing. That’s why you have such a dedicated following.
Thank you so, so, so much for being respectful enough to not exploit a real woman's real suffering in a video meant for entertainment, as so many TH-camrs and other media would have done. Goes on to show what a great guy you are, John. It really means a lot to me.
I know you don't need to hear it, but you're a real stand-up guy. I appreciate how you take responsibility for your content while it is seemingly uncommon to do so. People usually get so busy trying to make money that they sacrifice their moral compass, but this simple act of humanity made me feel good. Thanks x
Ruth’s 911 call is used for training. It’s thought to be real and it’s awful.
Ruth phones the police to say a suspicious person is hanging around her home. They fail to get her address before she is murdered over the line, it’s used to teach the importance of saying “911, what the location of your emergency?” Due to this fault, the person was never caught as they couldn’t find the location in time.
It’s used rather widely and many operators hear it as a teaching point. It’s shocking and upsetting, using it in this context is nothing more that disgusting.
You did the right thing John by not including that recording in the video. Shame on to the producer for including that in this shitty game!
Total respect points for John to cut out that 911 call.
I just watched this video and you cutting in about the 911 call is what I love about your channel, you know how to take the piss but you know when enough is enough. Keep up the amazing work, myself and my kids love your videos.
thank you for cutting that out..I just woke up and that would've fucked up my entire day.
cheers.
7 minutes per dollar.
Isn't using a real 911 call a punishable crime?
I'm having a slight feeling of deja vu over here. Didn't John play another game that also used an actual 911 call for no apparent reason? Or was it Jim Sterling who played it? I'm losing track of all the shitty horror games and shittier "developers" at this point.
It was Jim. He played a game called "The Archetype" which was about playing as a domestically abused child
Thank you, I thought I was imagining things. All of these so called "horror" games are starting to melt into each other and I don't know which one's which anymore when John or Jim mention a title.
TheTrueDeadFingers No problem. I can't forget that terrible game because that 911 call was depressing to say the least, and if anything a little scarring. Hearing an 8 year old girl screaming while her mother is getting beaten and the operator trying their best to help is just... it's fucked.
GamersPhilosophy I actually completely forgot about it until now that this "game" reminded me of it. Guess I just blocked it out of my mind, probably for the better, to be honest.
"It's a few hundred floors up."
Y-You don't know how hotel apartment numbering works, do ya?
I-It was a silly joke.
Y-You take things too seriously, don't ya?
HarshlyCritical A-Are you mocking my speech impediment? I-I'll have you know [one navy seals meme later] and that's why Obama is an alien.
Mike Lone Wolf 2037 wolf Yeah, I knew he was joking. That's why I added the stammering in the first place. Never intended to be taken seriously.
Guess Freddy was calling to help lower your insurance >w>
"Uh hello. I would like to report that you're credit card has been stolen. Please give me your password please". Sorry 3 years to late.
I just found your channel and have been binging your past videos. I just wanted to comment how much I appreciate you removing the real 911 phone call from your video. It was the right thing to do and showed a ton of character. Horror games are supposed to be fun and that is in no way fun or cool no matter what. Keep up the good work. I'm glad I found your channel and am having a ton of fun watching.
I really really appreciate you editing out the phone call. I can deal with any nasty shit in a horror game but when it's something that's real it just gets to me. Having a real 911 call sprung on you is pretty nasty stuff. Not to mention like you said it's completely tasteless and disrespectful. You absolutely made the right call.
I respect John's decision to remove the 911 call, good moral choice.
good job at the heads up John. :) I can't believe someone would actually use a REAL 911 recording of someone getting murdered. you made a good call removing the content.
I like it when Harshly gets Critical.
Wow, Dev. Way to go from forgettable to abhorrent, in the span of two awful games.
That ending rant was beautiful, and exactly what I think every time you play one of these indie horror games. That, and your consideration in regards to the 911 call just illustrates why you're one of my favourite let's play content creators on youtube John.
This guy really needs some curtains.
It *is* interesting to have a well-lit horror game with lots of comforting everyday ambiance, but it's a shame it wasn't done... a little more competently. And ethically.
No specific reason, but I feel like you were in good form for this one. Also, thank you for your principled stand and for the warning/editing, because I'd personally have found the 911 call distressing.
... wait, how did the in-game woman make a 911 call in 1915?
You're a class act, John. Keep thinking - and commenting - critically, because I do sure appreciate it!
Good for you John. I applaud your decision to remove it from your video. Very tasteless of the developer to use such material.
Bravo good sir!
respect man completely disgusting to put a real 911 call in a game for money i have alot of respect for u thank god theres still ppl out there with integrity so kudos luv the content keep it up
It seems like itch.io took this piece of shit down, got 404'd when I clicked on the link, thank god for that though,
I know this was done awhile back but I'm a semi new subscriber. I just want to say I think you are an amazing person to have such a high level of ethics. Most would have not thought twice about that 911 call. Great job.
Wow John! I think they took the game off their site where they were selling it! I think they either got it taken down from copyright from the marvel images, the realistic use of rape tape or they watched your videos and was like "he's totally right!". Either way! Good job as always John!
Just to let you know, Ruth actually survived the attack.
It's very much real, it's still used in dispatcher training. Thank you for not using it.
Thank you so much for being sensitive, John. This is one of the reasons you're my favorite youtuber. My heart goes out to the family related to that 911 call....
Welp the game is no longer available, which of course is no surprise: using actual Marvel comic book cover, FNAF night 5 audio log, copyrighted Tulsa newspaper, and the 911 call.
Man, I watch so many youtubers on a daily basis, but I really don't respect them as much as I do you. That was a really great thing you did by not uploading the 911 call. Really, even from an entertainment aspect, I probably would have closed the video (Things like that make me feel very uneasy and sad). I guess what I'm trying to say is, please keep making videos! You're one of the few let's players with at least an ounce of dignity on here, and I think you're one of the few that deserves to be paid probably more than what you get from ad revenue.
Michael Bay world? Not enough explosions. The lens flares CLEARLY place you in JJ Abrams world.
Yeah, I misspoke there, meant JJ Abrams
Your concern is really appreciated John! Your showing integrity is just another reason to keep watching your channel as often as I can, great work as always!
you made the right decision not playing that 911 call audio. If it indeed was real then I think the developers should be held responsible for using it. Disgusting and should go without saying that you don't do that shit.
I once ended up on THAT side of YT and I was listening to 911 calls and they left me in tears. Like, snot dripping from my nose and everything. There was one call that still makes my heart bleed. There’s awful people on this planet. Actually “Awful” is a compliment
Disgusting.
I clicked on the link in the info. box just to see if there are any comments about the material on it's page, and there are a handful of comments stating their disgust for the developer. Good for you guys!
Ruth's recording is used by some 911 Operating Training Centers, to teach Operators how important it is to gather all necessary information. I don't know if all the Call Center's use the audio or even if they still do this at all. But at least when they use it, it's in her memory so that what happened to Ruth doesn't happen to someone else. What this developer has done, is nothing short of shameful and disgusting! It's like literally spitting on her memory or defacing her grave.
Jesus fuck, there are some people in this world that are absolutely disgusting.
Thank you John for being honest about things and taking advantage like some other people do, you should have a bunch more subscribers because you're one of the few people that are actually a nice person in general. Plus I love that you don't fake anything. Once again thank you and keep up the good work.
i completely agree about the 911 call and using real life tragedy for entertainment/profit.
Thank you John for not including the audio from that 911 call. I remember when I heard it for the first time a while back and it truly disturbed me (as well as many others I'm sure). Once again, thank you for being so considerate.
It's not that hard to record yourself making a fake 911 call. Shout out to you for cutting it out. Not only is it disrespectful, it could possibly trigger someone into an anxiety attack (not going to lie, I'd probably be one of them)
.......of course
You're such a kind, thoughtful, empathetic person. You're not just honest, you don't just have a highly detail-oriented, critical, intelligent mind. You have a big heart too. You're officially tied for first place with Gab as my all-time favourite Let's Player, and easily in my Top 10 TH-camrs, period.
Please don't ever change all these wonderful things about yourself. They're your best qualities, and why I chose to subscribe to you after years of stumbling onto your videos by random chance. I only wish I'd thoroughly/properly discovered your channel sooner.
Cheers, man. You're what TH-cam should be all about.
Honestly in the case of games like this, I think its less that the developer doesn't know but more that they don't care. They just want to make a quick buck off of already created assets anyone can throw together in a weekend (marketplace items, stolen art/music/sounds, and gameplay code copied from tutorials).
I am one of those people who finds a channel and goes thru to watch everything on the channel - regardless of how old vids are..
I sincerely appreciate you stopping the video to let us know that you cant record the phone call. I have DV related PTSD and if I had heard that call, I would have had a panic attack.
Kudos to you for not perpetuating the violence.
When are you gonna release a rap album of your diss tracks????
Thank you for being open and serious about how development should be. I'm a game designer and have been working on two games with two indie teams for like... 1 year? Maybe 1 1/2? And I 100% agree that throughout those months we constantly are reviewing the games and asking others to. That's something SO SO SOOOOO important that new developers really need to understand. ESPECIALLY if you want money for it. So thanks again for completely understanding that :) :)
The newspaper article (with picture) looked real too. If so, that would make this guy exploiting two separate murder victims for his shitty 10-minute horror game.
Considering that that's just one of several illegal things done in this game, I really hope he faces some repercussions. Using the voice or likeness of somebody for your paid product in a non-educational format like this isn't just morally repulsive, it's against the law.
5:50 that is LITERALLY the phone call from the fifth night of the first five nights at freddy's
Here, at 22/04/2017, I have learned the word "proclivity."
It will be forgotten by the morrow...
Hello. This is a reminder two years later. =D
Thank you John, you are a good person. As far as I know the "Ruth case" hasn't been solved yet. Creepy and sad.