I am very upset about this version of the story. My dad Sheriff Frank Weston gave the FBI the information they had to aid in the arrest of Claude Dallas. My dad worked the entire time with his team from WINNEMUCCA to get Claude Dallas. This film is so off. They would of NEVER found Dallas that day if it wasn't for Sheri Frank Weston. No mention of this amazing Sheriff nor his team that put their lives on the line. If your doing any true story, then get it right!!!
Dear Jake: If he was such a "loner", then why did a jury let him off the hook two times ? It's because most folks in that part of the wilderness hate law enforcement as much as he did. That those cops were so "surprised" by those verdicts shows how out of touch they are with public sentiment in that neck of the woods. Dallas was no "loner". Among his many friends were the 24 people who served on those juries. ... jkulik919@gmail.com
These two men did not deserve to die, but I have met some asshole game wardens. Some have difficulty de-escalating a situation and have a self-inflated view of themselves. We'll never know the full confrontation between the three, but there could have been a more practical approach. Part of your job as law enforcement is to also de-escalate a situation, not make it worse with a belligerent attitude.
Oh sure you have experience in police work or you just running your mouth. De escalating is not a cops job it is helpful of course but it is not the job.
Hmm, I own hunting property. Poachers are the least dangerous bad actors they encounter. Meth labs, pot plots, and illegal traffickers are likely. Just checking licenses and limits, everybody is armed. Yeah, it takes a different kind of cat to do that job. Boondocks are a hell of a lot better with them than without them.
@@livewithnick Nick...We're talking about 1981 here ! Back then , you would/could , go to jail with no teeth just for back-talking a cop . I still have my teeth , but there were quite a few times back in my youth that if I didn't back off & let the ego of the cop win , I would have been sitting in a cell with charges that I didn't deserve .
It seems that the story of his escape was myth. Apparently he walked out the front door due to negligence of the security and they had to quickly furnish some escape story to cover up their negligence.
@Laurie Soper..... LE trying to cover their asses for their own fuk ups? Nah, I don't believe it, not for one minute! They would never do such a shady 😎 thing like that! And then lie about it? Never! 😱😒
More or less. In order to have supplies delivered you have to make money and in order to make money while simultaneously living off the land you need to work. He was selling a couple furs every now and then I guess. I doubt he was able to afford anything beyond very basic necessities.
I really appreciate how these are put together. The narration over the speaking is perfectly spaced, gives you just enough context so you can visualize what’s happening. Highly underappreciated series. Wish they would make new episodes of this
Here's my 2 cents. Ever since there has been any kind of police, this kind of thing has happened. If it's a ticketing or minor offense, why try to strong arm a person? OH WAIT....BECAUSE U CAN!!!! Some people just won't be pushed or strong armed.
Civilization comes with rules. You cannot have a safe nation without laws and enforcement of those laws. Personally I argee we have to many laws but murder isn't one I would take off the list. I also wouldn't take poaching of the books either. poaching negatively effects hunts for others and our children.
@@chasingthefish9042 I'm not saying that what the man did was right, I wasn't there, neither were u......but I have been targeted by law enforcement unjustly for personal reasons and every person gets to a point where enough is enough
@@daviddickerson7882 murder isn't ethical or morally correct. Dude shot these cops execution style. That's not the beat down fighting back this dudes just a murderer
If you guys would actually read about what happened instead of listening to a show that glamorizes the FBI and the cops in this instance, Jim Stevens said that one of the cops had drawn his gun. It was laying right next to his body. It's self defense. If he killed them in cold blood then why would he get man-slaughter and not murder?
Pogue was overheard in a local bar saying he would put an end to Claude no matter what it took. This conversation was brought up in the court case. Pogue went out there to kill Dallas. And he would have had Dallas friend not been there! A jury found it was self defense.
@UC9acdzjMOrFhAqDp-946bIg yes, I think we can all agree that claude dallas is a piece of garbage. But, on a lighter note. That spongebob episode was pretty great.
Dodge Ram The area sure has a lot to do with an outcome of events. Ohio is of course more populated compared to Idaho and the mentality of people changes with the area. Most of the contact ODNR, Ohio Department of Natural Resources officers have, is usually after the fact. Reported poaching by other hunters, witnesses, of poachers is the most common type of reported crimes of wildlife in Ohio. And, if enough probable cause is found, the ODNR Officers can enter a suspect’s property and his home and search for poached game. Due to the fact if the ODNR officers don’t act quickly, that contraband evidence may be lost or destroyed. I tried to make the comparison of the tent as being the same as a home and that tent was his home. Wild life officers do have a dangerous job in Ohio as well as other parts of this country. This was an interesting and unfortunate story for the two officers in Idaho
The statement "a 357 Magnum is way more power than trappers would need". Stupidity shines. Most outdoorsmen I know carry a minimum of 357 Mag and many carry 44 Magnum! And, yes, revolvers. If you're hunting and trapping small critters the 22 caliber rifles make sense but the large bore revolvers are for the other critters you might encounter. When I deer hunt I carry a 30-06 rifle and a 357 Mag on my hip. When they were recovering spent casings the only cases they should have found were 22; since the 357 shots were from a revolver they don't eject after firing like with autopistols. He would not have dumped the 357s there. Not sure how accurate the re-enactment is but the revolver recovered from his Jeep was a single action revolver; one would presume he was carrying a SA 357 revolver which supports dumping somewhere else but with the second showing of the shooting the gun is definitely a double action revolver. With single action revolvers you have to eject each case one at a time by manually pushing on the ejector rod as you turn the cylinder. Also, when the cops walked through the shooting with Stevens, the pretend bodies were laying different from the actual shooting scene.
Well I am not against the law,, however in certain situations I am not for it we dont really know the true facts of that paticular encounter,, we see two armed uniform people come out their and take a pistol off his buddy and the video shows one of the wardens putting his hand on his gun,,, if you flip threw TH-cam videos you see.many videos of the police shooting unarmed men... michael slager for example if their was not an innocent by stander filming that encounter he would have gotten away with murder... so usually when the situation is reversed it is always ok for the cops to investigate themselves and find.no wrong doing for example the kid who got shot in minnesota when the officer asked him to see his I'd and shot him and many many more examples,,, you are right he did not have to shoot these guys he could of gave them a chance by giving them some kind of warning.. but we all are to beleive this encounter is the exact way we see.in this video we have no idea what the forest rangers attitudes were like and how they really acted... cop tazes.13 year old kid while riding four wheeler dies within hours..all kinds of shady things happen.. Baltimore drug task force destroyed hundreds of lives and many of the agents are in prison.. however their is always some way out to not result in murder and this is true for police as well... police always have the upper hand and their is many situations were they kill and get away with murder,, Betty shely for example shot and killed a black man with 10 cops behind her and she had cover she just said he was reaching for a gun,,, no taze no bean bag no mace just lead...
Everybody has their breaking points however when cops have their breaking points they get free pass and get to resighn alot of times while the people pay their welfare checks.. take a look at the guy in the hotel were the hotel called the police on him for having a pellet fun in his room cause he was a pest remover mesa Arizona I beleive laquinta inn.. officer just came their and fucking blasted him for no reason.. that officer is getting a welfare check every month the rest of his life for absoutley a cold blooded murder...
Cops surround and kill homless man out in the middle of the desert near Albuquerque mexico... all kinds of shit.. but yeah would of deffintley took the fine in this case with dallas...
@@pjtja9523 your not smart cops always have hands on guns u not meant any I'd say sometimes just traffic stop so guy like that his camp yeah had hands close or on gun da
@@robertayoder2063 their you go trying to bash a guy for stating his opinion... like I said no one was fucking their when that fucking took place,,, you automatically fucking saying this video went down exactly the way it did... you are also saying cops always have their hands on their gun in which you are applying that is a good fucking thing,, let me guess your family member is a cop,,, cops always have their hands on their gun exactly what you just fucking said.... and you cant take that back and you went and said I was not smart... so when a cop walks into a dunkin donuts his hand is on his gun I doubt it.. when a cop goes threw a drive threw at mc Donald's his hand is on his gun from your fucking theory when a cop writes a ticket his hand is on his gun smh gtfoh....
This could also be called a case of lack of caution on the ranger's part .Common sense is gonna tell that anyone living that far of the grid might be koo koo.
the stories of his escape in Boise state penitentiary is a lot different. The guards tell a story about how Claude dressed like the woman from navada and walked out the visiting room. It makes sense if you ever seen the visiting room. There's tons of security now.
It is wrong to kill another human being in most scenarios. I don't agree with him killing those wardens.. With that being said There should be far less laws such as that they should have just left that man alone man alone let him live his life.he wasn't hurting anyone
Hold on, that first scene is supposed to be taking place in southern Idaho near the Nevada border??? No damn way. Y’all, the Idaho-Nevada border is sagebrush and lava rock and a whole lot of nothingness. There are no beautiful stands of trees like that. Take it from someone who lives in southern Idaho - this is someone’s idea of what they think it should look like. There are beautiful parts of Idaho that look like that, but they aren’t anywhere near the Nevada border. Can’t watch any further.
Not to mention that they said it took place on January the 5th. I've seen a lot of Idaho but I've never seen the place that is all leafy and lush, not to mention warm in January. If you find it let me know, I wanna go!
This documentary is not very accurate according to the court case evidence and also two books that I have read on the subject. The two game wardens were found out that they did do some questionable things. This is definitely wrote from the FBI standpoint which is quite a bit different than the court.
What I find disturbing is that I hoping to never kill anyone or be killed that I should have some sort of morbid fascination for this stuff due to programming I feel is not my own!
You can license a For Profit Business..Because that is a Privilege and not a Right.. But you can't take a RIGHT,,, Turn it into a Privilege,,, License it and charge a fee... Like your Drivers license... Truckers yes.. The people in their Private No.. I have 30 case laws on that one... What they have done is made Bill's law; Called "Bill's of Attainer" Bill's of pains and penalties... Thats a Crime on the People under the Color of law 18 USC 242 and 3571... Bill's are not law.. Government pays the Bill's... Here's another maxim of law.. What I can't do in my Person.. I can not do thru the agency of another... Meaning; If I don't have the power first,,, I can't grant that power to any agency either.. I can't tax my neighbor.. Government can't tax me.. Government is Fiction on paper only made by the people... It's all about mind Control... They have always controlled the peoples minds... Because Knowledge is Power.... But Rights are the law... Don't know your Rights.. You got No Power.. They don't want you to know your power.. RCW 42.56.030 all States have this in their Constitution.
Dallas was poaching on private property, they are the ones who called the game wardens to begin with He said Claude Dallas had a 'menacing vibe' when confronted.. I believe it..
He would not have been a murderer had he been left alone. Officers and game wardens love to push their power and authority onto other people that conduct themselves in a manner that oozes power and try to push their power on other people.
He didn't have an independent spirit. He depended on help from half the townspeople! He even had to get others to bring him supplies before he was being hunted by the law.
Leave it to the media to not tell the story as it really happened and spread bullshit. All right, Claude Dallas was in the wrong. He was poaching and he did kill Bill Pogue and Conley Elms. I can't speak for Elms but Pogue's son is a friend of my family's. Those who knew Bill Pogue usually do not have good things to says about him. He was a bully! Kinda like someone who couldn't make it as a police officer so he became a game warden. This video depicts Bill Pogue as someone who was rational and he was not. Pogue tried to bust one of my uncles for poaching elk. My uncle wasn't even hunting at the time and he was unarmed. Pogue had his hand one his gun the entire time he was talking to my uncle and being a complete and total asshoie leaving my uncle scared. Intimidating people and showing off his authority was Pogue's way. Claude Dallas said that he felt that his life was threatened and I believe that after hearing what people in my area had to say about Pogue. Even those people including my uncle will tell you that Claude Dallas was in the wrong. But was it self defense? Very possibly. Claude Dallas is not an evil man like the likes of Ted Bundy. He's a man who was born 100+ years too late and would have been perfect in the 1800's American wilderness.
Claude Dallas was "in the wrong"??? Even if what you say about Pogue is true, there's a BIG difference between being a bully and MURDERING someone - the way he just cold-bloodedly finished them off, like 2 animals he was hunting, shows you his TRUE way of thinking....he is an evil man who now it appears is continuing to live his own life, after he deliberately ended the lives of 2 people and destroyed their families.....
@@fukcensorship9395 he’s not a cowboy just because he resembles one. Cowboys tend cattle on a ranch. This guy is a trapper. Maybe he cow poked In his earlier life but I can’t find anything about that anywhere. Nowhere in other documentaries or articles is he described as a “cowboy”
Right? He reminds me of the characters from Louis L'Amore's Sackett novels. He's not a cowboy at this point in his life where he kills the wardens in self defense, and more of what one calls a "trapper" or just a general "woodsman".
@@jaxn13 he was in fact a cowboy, it was the reason he wanted to go out west in the first place, he worked at the Spanish Ranch,IL and a few more in Idaho and Nevada, he'll he was buddies with waddie Mitchell. Look up waddie.
Dallas: "Hey George" Nielson: "Hey Claude! Wanna cold one?" Dallas: "Sure George. Cheers. Hi Liz! Guess what! Bagged me a couple-a game wardens - need yer help" Nielson: "Sure old buddy - what can I do?" Dallas: "Got one of 'em outside in my truck" Nielson: "Dead?" Dallas: "You betcha - need to borrow your'n to dump the body. Gimme a hand?" Nielson: "No problem." (They transfer the body) "Here's the keys. Bring it back when yer done" Dallas: "Could be a while. Keep mine while I'm gone." Nielson: "Fair nuff. Y'all have a good day now. See ya Claude." (Calls to wife) "Hey, Honey! We got any-a that racoon pie left?"
I was 12 when Dallas killed the wardens in 1981. I lived in Eastern Oregon and hunted and fished with my dad and uncles along the Idaho border. I recall Conley Elms was a nice guy , easy to get along with. Others proclaimed Bill Pogue had a entirely different reputation, not many had to many kind words to say about the guy. Dallas was poaching and as a hunter I despise poachers, they give honest hunters a bad name. Dallas thought the law didn't apply to him, well if as he claimed self defense why hide the bodies and run? Well thats simple he killed those men because he ( Dallas) figured the law would not see things his way, they didn't and he went to prison, escaped went to prison again, he was released in 2005.
You're absolutely right . Why not leave the crime scene as it was instead of making it a federal case because of the never ending search for Pogue's body ? The judge was really pissed about making the family be mentally tortured because of the missing body of their father/husband .
That stupid cop that said Dallas was a wannabe who wasn't near as tough as he thought he was, I notice he didn't go get him by himself. He had the deep pockets of the government helping him. All of these government men trashing him seem so jealous and petty to me. And of course the narrator was very one sided. I wish they would put this many resources into cleaning up corrupt government officials.
Seems like a dude that just wanted to be left alone. Of course the government just couldn’t. The amount of people living like that on the fringe of society is slim. Any laws they might be breaking likely have a minuscule impact on anything. This entire fiasco costed more than what it was worth.
@@sladelefty the guy trapped illegally. That’s what started it all. It’d be different if he was some kind of pedophile cannibal or something. Get real, dude. Don’t pretend for a minute that you give a fuck about some weirdo out in Bumfuck, Egypt trapping slightly out of season.
I can’t believe people said those game wardens deserved to be killed. Those are the same people who call the police for help or run over others acting like big dogs.
Apparently you’ve never been treated like dog shit by cops. And hell no people like that DONT call the damn cops when shit hits the fan. They handle their business and ask questions later. I’m not saying murder is right but I know these people who supported this guy obviously had reason to. It was probably because the cops were crooked around them parts of the country. PS. If you ever get into a tight spot with cops, DO NOT TRUST them. They will find anyway they can to throw your ass under the jail so they can get a promotion and whether you are innocent or guilty DOES NOT matter to them.
I met Claude Dallas at least 3 times and Bill Pouge twice. It's common to stop and chat for a few when you share a one lane fire road out hunting or fishing and need to get around each other. One time we offered Mr Dallas one of those raspberry filled powdered doughnuts everyone used to bring on these outings and he reciprocated by giving me a rattlesnake skin with 6 rattles for me to make a hatband. I was 13 and always liked him. I met Bill Pouge fishing with my dad when I was 9. He came skidding up in his truck kicking gravel all over me and then held me at gunpoint to check my fishing license and when my dad came up the riverbank to see what the yelling was about he holsterd his sidearm but never took his hand off the butt. Two years later we were helping a truck stuck in a snowbank and he told us to stop blocking the road, belittled us, threatened us and then gave my uncle a ticket. He was a horrible law enforcement officer and a worse human being. It's no wonder that in the state that he worked, lived and was known finding a jury that was sympathetic was impossible and they had to try him in a different state
One of the worst scripts for a documentary I have ever heard. Full of inaccuracies and intrue statements. Just one, a .357 is a very common caliber for people who are living or hiking the wilderness.
They should have left this man alone. He was living off the land, tax free I’m sure. That’s what bothered the gov. the most. They say we are a free country, but it depends who’s freedom is being talked about.
Public land belongs to the public. When individuals decide to take more from the public lands than can be sustained, they are stealing from everyone else. This is true of grazing as well. If you want to graze public lands you pay a fee which helps manage the damage from domestic animals on the land. It gives you exclusive rights for a certain period. Without this arrangement there might be 100 ranchers competing to graze their herds on a piece of terrain that can't sustain a fraction of that load. The public loses, wildlands lose, and all those ranchers will be shooting at each other.
Who decides what’s too much? Who makes the decisions and why? The corrupt and the crooked. The ones who want all the power and control. These so called fees are mostly pocketed by the corrupt.
I live in the area that called Dallas was in I've always been here I can tell you hunting as a kid in 1979 I was 15 years old My experience was Conley elms was limited but other kids said that he was a very calm and he was a good instructor he would give you ideas and tips Bill pogue on the other hand, One day we were out hunting at a lake and he checked our licenses and asked us what we were shooting at and the very next day we were in a field right next to where we were hunting The day before at circle 16 and he came down upon us as though we were doing something wrong and from that point on I always had my concerns about that one certain game warden he had to be in control. Other kids had similar encounters.conversly executing a man with a bullet is not fair gunplay and it never has been and it never will be whether you're in combat or not this was not right.
The main thing that none of these films/re-enactments address is the fact that Dallas was released from custody on bail after only being found guilty of Manslaughter , awaiting sentencing . I'm REALLY surprised he didn't pack up & run at that point , but his friends and benefactors that put up his bail would have been on the hook , and
@@jeanniemoad2981 According the the various other comments the BOOK about this case state the town knew the Game Warden was dirty. The FBI also found them to be dirty and evidence of wrongdoing was available at the trial. So the Jury convicted Dallas on a lesser charge. They figured the Wardens probably drew on him, but couldn't prove it.
Yea, well people have been wiping their asses since the dawn of time you dont have to agree with American society's rules to agree your ass needs wiped.
To all of you defenders of this cold bloodied murderer, the Wardens confronted him because of a complaint from a local Rancher/ trapper. The Bible says an eye for an eye, not a life for a $100 ticket. Shame on you.
@@playkandle No, moron, saying you're in fear of your life only allows you to take the immediate steps nrcessary to protect your life. It doesn't mean protect yourself from the consequences of your illegal actions. The bullets in the head definitively prove murder.
You are Right but you are also wrong... The Peoples Rights come God and Nature.. Not Man Or Gov.. Crimes on the people under the color of law 18 USC 242 is pretty bad.. Fines and Penalties 18 USC 3571 can even mean death.. Our system has taken internal Policy, Statutes, Code, rules and reg's and turned them on the people.. The color of law can only be internal Government law.. We the People laid down the law when making Government.. Government is a Fiction on paper only... Rights are the Law.. They don't rule the people.. In my State we have this law in our Constitution.. It's all in all the others also.. Look this up RCW 42.56.030... This is important to know... You might want to also read the Smith Mundt Modernization Act also.... They can lawfully lie and make up stories for us all.. There just playing the pawns on the pawns.. or don't look here,, look there thing.. It's always has been about mind controlling the mass's... It's a evil game played thru out time...
It's quite sad that these 2 game wardens were just doing their duty that they were paid and authorized to do. A life for a life (actually 2). He should die the same way. He escaped ? In some countries, if as a guard you allow a prisoner to escape, you'll be occupying his cell until the prisoner is caught.
24 in and so far the picture I'm getting is more that of a guy that just wanted to be left alone and live off the land,but the government wouldn't leave him be. I haven't yet got the picture of a cold blooded murder,so much as somebody that was pushed beyond his limits.
Man murders two officers (men with families, who were just doing their job, who had no part in writing the laws) in cold blood and you come down on the murder's side. th-cam.com/video/5z7fc397JEk/w-d-xo.html
@@Burkutace27 the government has a long history of using force on those who are simply living their lives without hurting anyone. Citations, fines, taxes, licenses, on and on. That isn't government's purpose. He should have taken the citation and shut his mouth but the warrantless search drove Dallas over the edge.
The feds were the ones acting like Wild West cowboys. They were out matched by Claude. Their egos got them killed coupled with the fact that they think they own our public lands. They don’t. We just let them play. Where ever you are Claude, much respect friend.
however his "escape" occurred, it is/was obviously a huge embarrassment for all those concerned ... one guy in one isolated caravan can elude numerous officers and vehicles, jump in a vehicle, start the said vehicle, put it in gear, and then just drive off ... and he's a double cop killer ... how many heads rolled on this "intelligent apprehension"?
All this because the man trapped animals? Seriously they should of just left him alone. They kill more wild life by oil spills building homes were wild life thrives and they just can’t let one man hunt animals? Not saying what he did was the right thing but that was his way of living. Law is strange and seems biased towards people who don’t exactly agree with such oppression ( all this over two dead bobcats) mind blowing.
Right?! I can't believe all this is over 2 bobcat pelts. If the bobcat was killing his chickens, he could kill them anytime in my state. Just to show comparison of how meaningless 2 dead Bobcats are in other circumstances. Dead human lives for nothing...
You realize that your statement applies to the killer far more than the wardens do you not? Those guys were requested by landowners to stop the poaching. Some or you morons must live your delusional lives in a bubble to make such outlandish statements. I have broken game laws before plenty of times but I knew the consequence if I were caught. I sure as hell didn't consider killing a game warden just doing their job.
This is not true entirely. Most of it is made up to tell from the standpoint that the justice system. The two game wardens killed were not good men and extremely corrupt. Dallas was a good and honest man according to everyone interviewed about him. He was just screwed from the moment this wardens walked up.
Why was the other game warden killed? that's just a stupid question they were there as a team They didn't have a warrant they thought they could Lord over some pleab they paid the price for their tyrannical actions.
Collateral Damage ...Elms was wearing his 1911 .45 acp in a shoulder holster with a sweater AND a heavy winter coat covering it . He couldn't have got his gun out if his life depended on it ...it DID . t
@@whywhywhywhy7559 there's a loophole secret to put a halt to trials just keep firing your attorney over and over until the trial goes nowhere trust me a bunch of criminals done this before
@@fukcensorship9395 eventually, the judge, if not in on this tactic, will stop allowing you to fire your attorneys. They wont even let your attorney quit if they want to.
I agree with the bit about avoiding the forced draft, i wouldnt go to war with anyone either. Off gridding and being anti establishment i agree with that too...but killing of any human being is just wrong... Did native americans hunt? Did they have seasons etc? im not up on american history. I agree with hunting to survive not for sport.
Native Americans killed people too. Tribes fought against each other all the fucking time. NO CIVILIZATION in history was ever innocent of murder to get what they wanted. NONE.
What's crazy is if his friend never told on him he would have never been caught. The bodies would have disappeared and there would have been no evidence against him
Talking just to be saying words bugs TF out of me. City slickers imposing their opinions with no clue what they're talking about. "357 is more gun than a trapper needs" 🤣🤣🤣. In bear country, 357 is the minimum. The BARE BEAR minimum. Dallas was never not in bear country. It makes me wonder how tiny of a mouse gun he needed to carry to skip the "too much gun for the job" propaganda.
I love these one sided, crime stories. Clearly there had to be some kind of doubt, for the jury not to fully believe the governments story on the killings of the game wardens & clearly he had proof or some kind of evidence to show his life was endangered in prison by the government. What the officers where actually mad about, is that the jury didn't believe them blindly.
I think tou are jumping to conclusions here and made quite a keep of logic. If this is an area of anti government sentiment all the jury members would be those same people.
@@bryan0x05 and you think he made a leap in logic???? Just because of where it is geographically you assume everyone thinks the same.....gimmie a break hypocrite.
Smh God help us anytime people defend officers harassing a man trying to live off the land away from people we are definitely in trouble god needs to return n take earth back from the government
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It's been more than 40 years...it's high time this story was told truthfully on the big screen .
I am very upset about this version of the story. My dad Sheriff Frank Weston gave the FBI the information they had to aid in the arrest of Claude Dallas. My dad worked the entire time with his team from WINNEMUCCA to get Claude Dallas. This film is so off. They would of NEVER found Dallas that day if it wasn't for Sheri Frank Weston. No mention of this amazing Sheriff nor his team that put their lives on the line. If your doing any true story, then get it right!!!
This is true. They show this in a forest instead of the wide open barren desert of Owyhee county. What a joke. This is not how it happened
@alan zealand you think it is fine to be lied to? People killed is entertainment maybe?
FBI = Fumbling Bumbling Idiots
FBI=female body inspector
The sheriff sounds like an Idaho pussy
“The authorities are mean to this poor lil boy” is the best quote of this video
Pretty much.
He was not a loner if he had that much help from people.
Dear Jake: If he was such a "loner", then why did a jury let him off the hook two times ? It's because most folks in that part of the wilderness hate law enforcement as much as he did. That those cops were so "surprised" by those verdicts shows how out of touch they are with public sentiment in that neck of the woods. Dallas was no "loner". Among his many friends were the 24 people who served on those juries. ... jkulik919@gmail.com
Joe Kulik That was my point. A man with that many extremist enablers is not a loner.It is an organized network of Terrorists.
@@jakediddy3658 Rather liberal with the use of word "terrorist", are we?
Clude Dallas Outlaw Hero.
@@theculturedthug6609 Hero's don't kill without just cause. Dallas was nothing more than an immature punk. A cowardly one at that.
“Had a record of conflict with the law” that sounds like every politician.
"Not many locals appreciated federal intervention"
That sounds like a place for me. ❤️
Yeah and when you get murdered good luck depending on the local police department. Idiot
Shooting two cops make him a serial killer? That's a pretty loose claim to make..
He was a killer that's all I can say about that.
These two men did not deserve to die, but I have met some asshole game wardens. Some have difficulty de-escalating a situation and have a self-inflated view of themselves. We'll never know the full confrontation between the three, but there could have been a more practical approach. Part of your job as law enforcement is to also de-escalate a situation, not make it worse with a belligerent attitude.
Oh sure you have experience in police work or you just running your mouth. De escalating is not a cops job it is helpful of course but it is not the job.
@@jeffsedam9827 What part of his comment is incorrect or are you suffering from emotional butthurt?
@@jeffsedam9827 it absolutely is. If you’d ever been in law enforcement you’d know.
Hmm, I own hunting property. Poachers are the least dangerous bad actors they encounter. Meth labs, pot plots, and illegal traffickers are likely. Just checking licenses and limits, everybody is armed.
Yeah, it takes a different kind of cat to do that job.
Boondocks are a hell of a lot better with them than without them.
@@livewithnick Nick...We're talking about 1981 here ! Back then , you would/could , go to jail with no teeth just for back-talking a cop . I still have my teeth , but there were quite a few times back in my youth that if I didn't back off & let the ego of the cop win , I would have been sitting in a cell with charges that I didn't deserve .
It seems that the story of his escape was myth. Apparently he walked out the front door due to negligence of the security and they had to quickly furnish some escape story to cover up their negligence.
Well the Supreme Court did say it is super cool to let cops be blasphemous Liers. Yay
@Laurie Soper.....
LE trying to cover their asses for their own fuk ups? Nah, I don't believe it, not for one minute! They would never do such a shady 😎 thing like that! And then lie about it?
Never! 😱😒
Please give us the source of your information.
@@FRLN500 Your momma lol.
More likely they let it happen so they could tack more years on to his sentence.
it looks to me that, ANYONE can say they live off the land, WHEN they get a big box of supplies delivered to them, every other day.
Yeah, glamping more like.
You never came to Nevada I take it
More or less. In order to have supplies delivered you have to make money and in order to make money while simultaneously living off the land you need to work. He was selling a couple furs every now and then I guess. I doubt he was able to afford anything beyond very basic necessities.
Huh when did he say he got huge boxes of supplies delivered 3-4 times a week ..
The FBI used to be the good guys
USED TO BE , being the key words .
Lol those “sets” when they were talking about when they were dramatizing confiscating those traps is funny as hell.
I really appreciate how these are put together. The narration over the speaking is perfectly spaced, gives you just enough context so you can visualize what’s happening. Highly underappreciated series. Wish they would make new episodes of this
This, The New Detectives, and Forensic Files are the peak of TV documentaries
If only the FBI could be “delivered to justice”
Amen to that, the entire government would be even better
Here's my 2 cents. Ever since there has been any kind of police, this kind of thing has happened. If it's a ticketing or minor offense, why try to strong arm a person? OH WAIT....BECAUSE U CAN!!!! Some people just won't be pushed or strong armed.
Civilization comes with rules. You cannot have a safe nation without laws and enforcement of those laws. Personally I argee we have to many laws but murder isn't one I would take off the list. I also wouldn't take poaching of the books either. poaching negatively effects hunts for others and our children.
@@chasingthefish9042 I'm not saying that what the man did was right, I wasn't there, neither were u......but I have been targeted by law enforcement unjustly for personal reasons and every person gets to a point where enough is enough
@@daviddickerson7882 murder isn't ethical or morally correct. Dude shot these cops execution style. That's not the beat down fighting back this dudes just a murderer
@@chasingthefish9042 nobody said what dude did was moral or correct let alone moral and correct…
@@daviddickerson7882 you sound so unintelligent 😂
Claude Dallas is still alive and now 70 years old. What he had been doing since his release from prison is still unknown
He's probably out there trapping Coyotes and Mountain goats,living hand to mouth out West.He's a free man. Good for him.
@@stevenstovar5297 eww you support a murderer, what a great person you must be.
@@awright119021 There's two sides to the story.
@@awright119021
no serial killer...
there are some differences!
If you guys would actually read about what happened instead of listening to a show that glamorizes the FBI and the cops in this instance, Jim Stevens said that one of the cops had drawn his gun. It was laying right next to his body. It's self defense. If he killed them in cold blood then why would he get man-slaughter and not murder?
Didn't know you could get self-defense with a cop let alone a fed
The game wardens weren’t federal officers.
Check out the Coffee case out of Florida.
You can with the right jury.
Yes if a cop is going to illegal kill you you can defend yourself
Pogue was overheard in a local bar saying he would put an end to Claude no matter what it took.
This conversation was brought up in the court case.
Pogue went out there to kill Dallas.
And he would have had Dallas friend not been there!
A jury found it was self defense.
47:17 going after Claude Dallas with a Crossman .177 was your first mistake dawg
Reminds me of the episode of Spongebob where Mr Krabs "kills" the health inspector, and forces sponge to be his accomplice out of fear
What the hell you talking about? This pile of flesh just killed two game wardens cold blood. You need help.
The crabby paddies were worth the hassle. They look like a quality product and I can’t blame mr. krabs… although he is a greedy bitch.
Yeah that was great. Lol
@UC9acdzjMOrFhAqDp-946bIg yes, I think we can all agree that claude dallas is a piece of garbage. But, on a lighter note. That spongebob episode was pretty great.
Gotta love the old victor stoploss muskrat traps being used for trapping bob cat LOL
Or the set traps just laying in the middle of a walking trail? 😂
Firing gunshots near me would be my least preferred method for announcing your arrival.
In Ohio, game wardens do not need a search warrant to enter your home to investigate any crimes related to Ohio wild game
Dodge Ram The area sure has a lot to do with an outcome of events. Ohio is of course more populated compared to Idaho and the mentality of people changes with the area. Most of the contact ODNR, Ohio Department of Natural Resources officers have, is usually after the fact. Reported poaching by other hunters, witnesses, of poachers is the most common type of reported crimes of wildlife in Ohio. And, if enough probable cause is found, the ODNR Officers can enter a suspect’s property and his home and search for poached game. Due to the fact if the ODNR officers don’t act quickly, that contraband evidence may be lost or destroyed. I tried to make the comparison of the tent as being the same as a home and that tent was his home. Wild life officers do have a dangerous job in Ohio as well as other parts of this country. This was an interesting and unfortunate story for the two officers in Idaho
They love to brag about that here in Kansas too.
It’s a risky business
mike...
It didn't happen in Ohio, it happened in Idaho....js.
Louisiana too.
The statement "a 357 Magnum is way more power than trappers would need". Stupidity shines. Most outdoorsmen I know carry a minimum of 357 Mag and many carry 44 Magnum! And, yes, revolvers. If you're hunting and trapping small critters the 22 caliber rifles make sense but the large bore revolvers are for the other critters you might encounter. When I deer hunt I carry a 30-06 rifle and a 357 Mag on my hip. When they were recovering spent casings the only cases they should have found were 22; since the 357 shots were from a revolver they don't eject after firing like with autopistols. He would not have dumped the 357s there. Not sure how accurate the re-enactment is but the revolver recovered from his Jeep was a single action revolver; one would presume he was carrying a SA 357 revolver which supports dumping somewhere else but with the second showing of the shooting the gun is definitely a double action revolver. With single action revolvers you have to eject each case one at a time by manually pushing on the ejector rod as you turn the cylinder. Also, when the cops walked through the shooting with Stevens, the pretend bodies were laying different from the actual shooting scene.
who cares 😴
@@dannyr5358 People who don't want to be mauled by Grizzly Bears? Dumb city boy
@@tylerkuber2579 Your mother
Killed 2 wardens because they would fine him for trapping out of season.
Well I am not against the law,, however in certain situations I am not for it we dont really know the true facts of that paticular encounter,, we see two armed uniform people come out their and take a pistol off his buddy and the video shows one of the wardens putting his hand on his gun,,, if you flip threw TH-cam videos you see.many videos of the police shooting unarmed men... michael slager for example if their was not an innocent by stander filming that encounter he would have gotten away with murder... so usually when the situation is reversed it is always ok for the cops to investigate themselves and find.no wrong doing for example the kid who got shot in minnesota when the officer asked him to see his I'd and shot him and many many more examples,,, you are right he did not have to shoot these guys he could of gave them a chance by giving them some kind of warning.. but we all are to beleive this encounter is the exact way we see.in this video we have no idea what the forest rangers attitudes were like and how they really acted... cop tazes.13 year old kid while riding four wheeler dies within hours..all kinds of shady things happen.. Baltimore drug task force destroyed hundreds of lives and many of the agents are in prison.. however their is always some way out to not result in murder and this is true for police as well... police always have the upper hand and their is many situations were they kill and get away with murder,, Betty shely for example shot and killed a black man with 10 cops behind her and she had cover she just said he was reaching for a gun,,, no taze no bean bag no mace just lead...
Everybody has their breaking points however when cops have their breaking points they get free pass and get to resighn alot of times while the people pay their welfare checks.. take a look at the guy in the hotel were the hotel called the police on him for having a pellet fun in his room cause he was a pest remover mesa Arizona I beleive laquinta inn.. officer just came their and fucking blasted him for no reason.. that officer is getting a welfare check every month the rest of his life for absoutley a cold blooded murder...
Cops surround and kill homless man out in the middle of the desert near Albuquerque mexico... all kinds of shit.. but yeah would of deffintley took the fine in this case with dallas...
@@pjtja9523 your not smart cops always have hands on guns u not meant any I'd say sometimes just traffic stop so guy like that his camp yeah had hands close or on gun da
@@robertayoder2063 their you go trying to bash a guy for stating his opinion... like I said no one was fucking their when that fucking took place,,, you automatically fucking saying this video went down exactly the way it did... you are also saying cops always have their hands on their gun in which you are applying that is a good fucking thing,, let me guess your family member is a cop,,, cops always have their hands on their gun exactly what you just fucking said.... and you cant take that back and you went and said I was not smart... so when a cop walks into a dunkin donuts his hand is on his gun I doubt it.. when a cop goes threw a drive threw at mc Donald's his hand is on his gun from your fucking theory when a cop writes a ticket his hand is on his gun smh gtfoh....
"Back in 82, I could throw a pigskin a quarter mile!"
Lol
You’re gonna clean my van. Right now!
I named my dog Lafawnda because of that movie lol
@@kylegribble awesome!
I’m dead 😂😂😂
The re-enactments are top notch
Just need more cartwheels to make it real.
Jim Calstrom from the New Yawk office number one fan
with a bit of imaginative plastic surgery, Jim Calstrom could be Kim Jong Un's double. LOL.
This could also be called a case of lack of caution on the ranger's part .Common sense is gonna tell that anyone living that far of the grid might be koo koo.
Or just tired of excessive laws created to boost revenue.
Or loco
the stories of his escape in Boise state penitentiary is a lot different. The guards tell a story about how Claude dressed like the woman from navada and walked out the visiting room. It makes sense if you ever seen the visiting room. There's tons of security now.
It is wrong to kill another human being in most scenarios. I don't agree with him killing those wardens.. With that being said There should be far less laws such as that they should have just left that man alone man alone let him live his life.he wasn't hurting anyone
That's the whole premise of freedom but true freedom in a land with excessive laws means a person is going to be an outlaw
Hold on, that first scene is supposed to be taking place in southern Idaho near the Nevada border??? No damn way. Y’all, the Idaho-Nevada border is sagebrush and lava rock and a whole lot of nothingness. There are no beautiful stands of trees like that.
Take it from someone who lives in southern Idaho - this is someone’s idea of what they think it should look like. There are beautiful parts of Idaho that look like that, but they aren’t anywhere near the Nevada border.
Can’t watch any further.
Not to mention that they said it took place on January the 5th. I've seen a lot of Idaho but I've never seen the place that is all leafy and lush, not to mention warm in January. If you find it let me know, I wanna go!
So the film makers didn't get the terrain right...? Big deal , it's a recreation , nothing more .
This documentary is not very accurate according to the court case evidence and also two books that I have read on the subject. The two game wardens were found out that they did do some questionable things. This is definitely wrote from the FBI standpoint which is quite a bit different than the court.
What I find disturbing is that I hoping to never kill anyone or be killed that I should have some sort of morbid fascination for this stuff due to programming I feel is not my own!
Typical lying feds so much bullshit. Anything to spin the story their way.
It is FBI propaganda. Like all these "true" crime shows. Half truth, lies and misrepresentation.
Anyone who knows a game warden knows they do questionable things. Ive seen imone shoot deer out of season from a overpass..
Because nobody has ever lied in a book or on the internet right?
When you sign your fishing, hunting or trapping license you agree to let the gov to inspect any catch or kill without a warrant.
no you don't . only on public property . you'll need a search warrant to come into my house .
You can license a For Profit Business..Because that is a Privilege and not a Right.. But you can't take a RIGHT,,, Turn it into a Privilege,,, License it and charge a fee... Like your Drivers license... Truckers yes.. The people in their Private No.. I have 30 case laws on that one... What they have done is made Bill's law; Called "Bill's of Attainer" Bill's of pains and penalties... Thats a Crime on the People under the Color of law 18 USC 242 and 3571... Bill's are not law.. Government pays the Bill's... Here's another maxim of law.. What I can't do in my Person.. I can not do thru the agency of another... Meaning; If I don't have the power first,,, I can't grant that power to any agency either.. I can't tax my neighbor.. Government can't tax me.. Government is Fiction on paper only made by the people... It's all about mind Control... They have always controlled the peoples minds... Because Knowledge is Power.... But Rights are the law... Don't know your Rights.. You got No Power.. They don't want you to know your power.. RCW 42.56.030 all States have this in their Constitution.
Dallas was poaching on private property, they are the ones who called the game wardens to begin with
He said Claude Dallas had a 'menacing vibe' when confronted..
I believe it..
LONG LIVE Claude Dallas
Over the years this story has changed,
People try to paint him as some kind of hero. Truth is, he's nothing but a murderer. He should have never been taken alive.
He would not have been a murderer had he been left alone. Officers and game wardens love to push their power and authority onto other people that conduct themselves in a manner that oozes power and try to push their power on other people.
This is a government made one sided full of tales movie!
Yup!
Does the actor playing Dallas remind anyone else of Tobias from Arrested development!? 😂
I admire his independent spirit, but firing on law enforcement is where we go divergent paths
He didn't have an independent spirit. He depended on help from half the townspeople! He even had to get others to bring him supplies before he was being hunted by the law.
Leave it to the media to not tell the story as it really happened and spread bullshit. All right, Claude Dallas was in the wrong. He was poaching and he did kill Bill Pogue and Conley Elms. I can't speak for Elms but Pogue's son is a friend of my family's. Those who knew Bill Pogue usually do not have good things to says about him. He was a bully! Kinda like someone who couldn't make it as a police officer so he became a game warden. This video depicts Bill Pogue as someone who was rational and he was not. Pogue tried to bust one of my uncles for poaching elk. My uncle wasn't even hunting at the time and he was unarmed. Pogue had his hand one his gun the entire time he was talking to my uncle and being a complete and total asshoie leaving my uncle scared. Intimidating people and showing off his authority was Pogue's way. Claude Dallas said that he felt that his life was threatened and I believe that after hearing what people in my area had to say about Pogue. Even those people including my uncle will tell you that Claude Dallas was in the wrong. But was it self defense? Very possibly. Claude Dallas is not an evil man like the likes of Ted Bundy. He's a man who was born 100+ years too late and would have been perfect in the 1800's American wilderness.
Claude Dallas was "in the wrong"??? Even if what you say about Pogue is true, there's a BIG difference between being a bully and MURDERING someone - the way he just cold-bloodedly finished them off, like 2 animals he was hunting, shows you his TRUE way of thinking....he is an evil man who now it appears is continuing to live his own life, after he deliberately ended the lives of 2 people and destroyed their families.....
@@colinluckens9591 yes, he was. But consider this. A show called FBI Files is only going to tell you the government's side of the story.
34:44 I miss that sound. Honda reliability.
I do too...but not worth killing 2 men over though..
Why is this named Murdering cowboy? This murderer is not a "Cowboy." he is a "lunatic."
He was a cowboy that happened to be a lunatic......
@@fukcensorship9395 he’s not a cowboy just because he resembles one. Cowboys tend cattle on a ranch. This guy is a trapper. Maybe he cow poked In his earlier life but I can’t find anything about that anywhere. Nowhere in other documentaries or articles is he described as a “cowboy”
He watched many cowboy movies as a child, and was a huge fan. He also wore a cowboy hat.
Right? He reminds me of the characters from Louis L'Amore's Sackett novels. He's not a cowboy at this point in his life where he kills the wardens in self defense, and more of what one calls a "trapper" or just a general "woodsman".
@@jaxn13 he was in fact a cowboy, it was the reason he wanted to go out west in the first place, he worked at the Spanish Ranch,IL and a few more in Idaho and Nevada, he'll he was buddies with waddie Mitchell. Look up waddie.
Dallas: "Hey George"
Nielson: "Hey Claude! Wanna cold one?"
Dallas: "Sure George. Cheers. Hi Liz! Guess what! Bagged me a couple-a game wardens - need yer help"
Nielson: "Sure old buddy - what can I do?"
Dallas: "Got one of 'em outside in my truck"
Nielson: "Dead?"
Dallas: "You betcha - need to borrow your'n to dump the body. Gimme a hand?"
Nielson: "No problem." (They transfer the body) "Here's the keys. Bring it back when yer done"
Dallas: "Could be a while. Keep mine while I'm gone."
Nielson: "Fair nuff. Y'all have a good day now. See ya Claude." (Calls to wife) "Hey, Honey! We got any-a that racoon pie left?"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
That reminds me of the saying, " Good friends help friends move, Great friend help friends move, bodies"
I was 12 when Dallas killed the wardens in 1981. I lived in Eastern Oregon and hunted and fished with my dad and uncles along the Idaho border. I recall Conley Elms was a nice guy , easy to get along with. Others proclaimed Bill Pogue had a entirely different reputation, not many had to many kind words to say about the guy. Dallas was poaching and as a hunter I despise poachers, they give honest hunters a bad name. Dallas thought the law didn't apply to him, well if as he claimed self defense why hide the bodies and run? Well thats simple he killed those men because he ( Dallas) figured the law would not see things his way, they didn't and he went to prison, escaped went to prison again, he was released in 2005.
who cares 😴
@@dannyr5358 you obviously do ... enough to read his comment and reply to it ... idiot ...
WHO CARES LMFAO
You're absolutely right . Why not leave the crime scene as it was instead of making it a federal case because of the never ending search for Pogue's body ? The judge was really pissed about making the family be mentally tortured because of the missing body of their father/husband .
That stupid cop that said Dallas was a wannabe who wasn't near as tough as he thought he was, I notice he didn't go get him by himself. He had the deep pockets of the government helping him. All of these government men trashing him seem so jealous and petty to me. And of course the narrator was very one sided. I wish they would put this many resources into cleaning up corrupt government officials.
He got his REVOLVER and rifles back afther they were confiscated lol
Did anybody else notice around the 47:18 mark one of the swat team members was pointing an old Marksman BB pistol? 🤷♂️😂
lol yeah I did. Those BB pistols are all throughout the episode.
Claude Dallas was released in 2005 following good behavior, he was last sighted living in Utah
àààa
I want to meet him.
Wowwwww
@@christhomas1289 Idiot. He killed people.
How is he even free? Kill two cops and out in 20?
Sheriff Neddletons airplane has cool sound effects while being played through stereo. I walked into the room at that point
Seems like a dude that just wanted to be left alone. Of course the government just couldn’t. The amount of people living like that on the fringe of society is slim. Any laws they might be breaking likely have a minuscule impact on anything. This entire fiasco costed more than what it was worth.
Absolutely.
And from 2022 on the Authorities are about to find out there are Dallas's out there than they can handle
Just a dude? You mean murdering psychotic criminal.
@@Sir_Richard_Stewart Well aren’t you just so special. Please try not to hurt anyone.
@@sladelefty the guy trapped illegally. That’s what started it all. It’d be different if he was some kind of pedophile cannibal or something. Get real, dude. Don’t pretend for a minute that you give a fuck about some weirdo out in Bumfuck, Egypt trapping slightly out of season.
I can’t believe people said those game wardens deserved to be killed. Those are the same people who call the police for help or run over others acting like big dogs.
Apparently you’ve never been treated like dog shit by cops. And hell no people like that DONT call the damn cops when shit hits the fan. They handle their business and ask questions later. I’m not saying murder is right but I know these people who supported this guy obviously had reason to. It was probably because the cops were crooked around them parts of the country.
PS. If you ever get into a tight spot with cops, DO NOT TRUST them. They will find anyway they can to throw your ass under the jail so they can get a promotion and whether you are innocent or guilty DOES NOT matter to them.
"The sun set on the wild west long ago." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You reach under the trap jaw and set the pin, NOT over it !!! Sheeese!! Lol!
I met Claude Dallas at least 3 times and Bill Pouge twice. It's common to stop and chat for a few when you share a one lane fire road out hunting or fishing and need to get around each other. One time we offered Mr Dallas one of those raspberry filled powdered doughnuts everyone used to bring on these outings and he reciprocated by giving me a rattlesnake skin with 6 rattles for me to make a hatband. I was 13 and always liked him.
I met Bill Pouge fishing with my dad when I was 9.
He came skidding up in his truck kicking gravel all over me and then held me at gunpoint to check my fishing license and when my dad came up the riverbank to see what the yelling was about he holsterd his sidearm but never took his hand off the butt. Two years later we were helping a truck stuck in a snowbank and he told us to stop blocking the road, belittled us, threatened us and then gave my uncle a ticket.
He was a horrible law enforcement officer and a worse human being.
It's no wonder that in the state that he worked, lived and was known finding a jury that was sympathetic was impossible and they had to try him in a different state
And people wonder why folks distrust the law especially the federal law
Moral of the story, leave People alone that want to be left alone.
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One of the worst scripts for a documentary I have ever heard. Full of inaccuracies and intrue statements. Just one, a .357 is a very common caliber for people who are living or hiking the wilderness.
they didn't wear gloves to collect evidence
They should have left this man alone. He was living off the land, tax free I’m sure. That’s what bothered the gov. the most. They say we are a free country, but it depends who’s freedom is being talked about.
Well said ,well said!
Well the Rich Land Owner called the Game Warden personally. So like any good dog he followed his Master's orders.
Agreed. Maybe he should have skinned the rich land owner first?
Public land belongs to the public. When individuals decide to take more from the public lands than can be sustained, they are stealing from everyone else. This is true of grazing as well. If you want to graze public lands you pay a fee which helps manage the damage from domestic animals on the land. It gives you exclusive rights for a certain period. Without this arrangement there might be 100 ranchers competing to graze their herds on a piece of terrain that can't sustain a fraction of that load. The public loses, wildlands lose, and all those ranchers will be shooting at each other.
Who decides what’s too much? Who makes the decisions and why? The corrupt and the crooked. The ones who want all the power and control. These so called fees are mostly pocketed by the corrupt.
Idaho sure is rugged and beautiful
claude did 10 years for each dead warden
@alan zealand right now he’s living in Washington State
@@Historyfreak-f7o Wikipedia says he is in Utah or Alaska.
@@Historyfreak-f7o ugh I live in Washington
And one, I'm sorry.....And two! That's two bums blasted away
You know, as a jailer, you have one job. Keep the prisons in the prison. I don't see how people escape so often.
the prisons inside prison?
Thanks for these!
I live in the area that called Dallas was in I've always been here I can tell you hunting as a kid in 1979 I was 15 years old My experience was Conley elms was limited but other kids said that he was a very calm and he was a good instructor he would give you ideas and tips Bill pogue on the other hand, One day we were out hunting at a lake and he checked our licenses and asked us what we were shooting at and the very next day we were in a field right next to where we were hunting The day before at circle 16 and he came down upon us as though we were doing something wrong and from that point on I always had my concerns about that one certain game warden he had to be in control. Other kids had similar encounters.conversly executing a man with a bullet is not fair gunplay and it never has been and it never will be whether you're in combat or not this was not right.
Ruby ridge is a good read.
He could go off and be independent and you know we just can't have that
The main thing that none of these films/re-enactments address is the fact that Dallas was released from custody on bail after only being found guilty of Manslaughter , awaiting sentencing . I'm REALLY surprised he didn't pack up & run at that point , but his friends and benefactors that put up his bail would have been on the hook , and
I would like to be a loner with the whole TOWN BEHIND MY BACK.. They should all be charged with accessories to the crimes committed.
Not worth the prosecutors time or money
@@Historyfreak-f7o Probably not.
That's what I thought. got to be more to this
@@jeanniemoad2981 According the the various other comments the BOOK about this case state the town knew the Game Warden was dirty. The FBI also found them to be dirty and evidence of wrongdoing was available at the trial. So the Jury convicted Dallas on a lesser charge. They figured the Wardens probably drew on him, but couldn't prove it.
Ever heard of the 5th amendment? Nobody can be compelled to speak to law enforcement. Ever.
He claimed to be a tough, self-sufficient mountain man who rejected the rules of society - but not its toilet paper!
Did you see the officer holding a pellet gun at 3903? I got a decent laugh out of that.
And unable to kill for food. His buddy had to bring him a box of food. 😆
Yea, well people have been wiping their asses since the dawn of time you dont have to agree with American society's rules to agree your ass needs wiped.
To all of you defenders of this cold bloodied murderer, the Wardens confronted him because of a complaint from a local Rancher/ trapper. The Bible says an eye for an eye, not a life for a $100 ticket. Shame on you.
They'll shoot you if you don't pay that $100 so.... Yeah
@@playkandle No, moron, saying you're in fear of your life only allows you to take the immediate steps nrcessary to protect your life. It doesn't mean protect yourself from the consequences of your illegal actions. The bullets in the head definitively prove murder.
Claude Dallas will go to whatever hell or underworld exists for people like him
@@jerryjiron3584 they Demanded the $100? Or were giving him a ticket, you murderous fuck
You are Right but you are also wrong... The Peoples Rights come God and Nature.. Not Man Or Gov.. Crimes on the people under the color of law 18 USC 242 is pretty bad.. Fines and Penalties 18 USC 3571 can even mean death.. Our system has taken internal Policy, Statutes, Code, rules and reg's and turned them on the people.. The color of law can only be internal Government law.. We the People laid down the law when making Government.. Government is a Fiction on paper only... Rights are the Law.. They don't rule the people.. In my State we have this law in our Constitution.. It's all in all the others also.. Look this up RCW 42.56.030... This is important to know... You might want to also read the Smith Mundt Modernization Act also.... They can lawfully lie and make up stories for us all.. There just playing the pawns on the pawns.. or don't look here,, look there thing.. It's always has been about mind controlling the mass's... It's a evil game played thru out time...
Tom Russell's " Claude Dallas " an interesting song.
You gotta admit ole Dallas gave a run for their money
Lee Carwile very true, he seemed to be a very smart man other than choosing 30 years in prison for murdering over a ticket for poaching
@@muleykilla1863 he’s a free man today, living in Washington State.
It's quite sad that these 2 game wardens were just doing their duty that they were paid and authorized to do. A life for a life (actually 2). He should die the same way. He escaped ? In some countries, if as a guard you allow a prisoner to escape, you'll be occupying his cell until the prisoner is caught.
LOL @ the Dart/BB gun 39:03 same one I got as a gift when I was young
24 in and so far the picture I'm getting is more that of a guy that just wanted to be left alone and live off the land,but the government wouldn't leave him be. I haven't yet got the picture of a cold blooded murder,so much as somebody that was pushed beyond his limits.
Man murders two officers (men with families, who were just doing their job, who had no part in writing the laws) in cold blood and you come down on the murder's side.
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@@Burkutace27 no excuse. I don’t care if the people who come to force vax me have families, they’re enemies.
@@Burkutace27 the government has a long history of using force on those who are simply living their lives without hurting anyone. Citations, fines, taxes, licenses, on and on. That isn't government's purpose. He should have taken the citation and shut his mouth but the warrantless search drove Dallas over the edge.
Me either n this is why most of us now dislike the law
1 ole boy brought his kids go kart to help in the search hahaha
The feds were the ones acting like Wild West cowboys. They were out matched by Claude. Their egos got them killed coupled with the fact that they think they own our public lands. They don’t. We just let them play. Where ever you are Claude, much respect friend.
Let me guess. You got caught by the police and you don’t want to take accountability for your breaking of the law when you got caught.
however his "escape" occurred, it is/was obviously a huge embarrassment for all those concerned ... one guy in one isolated caravan can elude numerous officers and vehicles, jump in a vehicle, start the said vehicle, put it in gear, and then just drive off ... and he's a double cop killer ... how many heads rolled on this "intelligent apprehension"?
You serious why are you constantly re-uploading the same videos over and over again?
Me tough guy, me have gun..... me no have gun, me cry baby, scared of anyone.
All this because the man trapped animals? Seriously they should of just left him alone. They kill more wild life by oil spills building homes were wild life thrives and they just can’t let one man hunt animals? Not saying what he did was the right thing but that was his way of living. Law is strange and seems biased towards people who don’t exactly agree with such oppression ( all this over two dead bobcats) mind blowing.
Right?! I can't believe all this is over 2 bobcat pelts. If the bobcat was killing his chickens, he could kill them anytime in my state. Just to show comparison of how meaningless 2 dead Bobcats are in other circumstances. Dead human lives for nothing...
You realize that your statement applies to the killer far more than the wardens do you not? Those guys were requested by landowners to stop the poaching. Some or you morons must live your delusional lives in a bubble to make such outlandish statements. I have broken game laws before plenty of times but I knew the consequence if I were caught. I sure as hell didn't consider killing a game warden just doing their job.
Thanks!
This is not true entirely. Most of it is made up to tell from the standpoint that the justice system. The two game wardens killed were not good men and extremely corrupt. Dallas was a good and honest man according to everyone interviewed about him. He was just screwed from the moment this wardens walked up.
Can you provide links to documentation about the corrupt wardens? I'd be very interested to read it.
Indeed, but the Officers are no longer to tell their side. Every game warden I've encountered have been unfailingly polite and helpful.
Why was the other game warden killed? that's just a stupid question they were there as a team They didn't have a warrant they thought they could Lord over some pleab they paid the price for their tyrannical actions.
Collateral Damage ...Elms was wearing his 1911 .45 acp in a shoulder holster with a sweater AND a heavy winter coat covering it . He couldn't have got his gun out if his life depended on it ...it DID .
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You're supposed to be in prison, the jury knows this, they still acquit, holy shit!
They justified murder. I bet if it were other people that did this they would have been killed or in prison
@@whywhywhywhy7559 there's a loophole secret to put a halt to trials just keep firing your attorney over and over until the trial goes nowhere trust me a bunch of criminals done this before
@@fukcensorship9395 eventually, the judge, if not in on this tactic, will stop allowing you to fire your attorneys. They wont even let your attorney quit if they want to.
"You will respect my authority." - Cartman
Regardless of whether or not he deserved to be fined, you dont just murder two game wardens. Thats inexcusable.
I remember reading that article in field& stream way back when that happened
I agree with the bit about avoiding the forced draft, i wouldnt go to war with anyone either. Off gridding and being anti establishment i agree with that too...but killing of any human being is just wrong...
Did native americans hunt? Did they have seasons etc? im not up on american history. I agree with hunting to survive not for sport.
This is all such untrue bullshit.
Native Americans has limits on their kill when they hunt..call it preservation or conservation..Fish only what you can eat..
The government hates self sufficient people.
@@Historyfreak-f7o Because they can't tax the hell out of them.
Native Americans killed people too. Tribes fought against each other all the fucking time. NO CIVILIZATION in history was ever innocent of murder to get what they wanted. NONE.
What's crazy is if his friend never told on him he would have never been caught. The bodies would have disappeared and there would have been no evidence against him
There.was alot of facts omitted.from this video if it was accurate why wasn't he convicted of murder would make a person wonder
He wasn’t convicted of 1st degree murder because he had a friendly jury. O.J. got off completely. Also Rittenhouse. It happens.
@@GH-oi2jf does the boot polish taste good?
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Ha!
Thank God Rittenhouse got a fair trial.
Supporters of communist rioters are disgusting.
I would say it might have been better idea to leave the mountain man/trapper tf alone.If they wanted a fair trial should take him out of state
And just let hi, break the law? Seems to me people should obey the laws if they do not want the law after them
He may not be a Cowboy to the Officers but he sure is to the public.
He also made the Sheriff, FBI, and Prison look foolish
Though I never met Claude I did know George and Liz personally very nice people.
Talking just to be saying words bugs TF out of me. City slickers imposing their opinions with no clue what they're talking about. "357 is more gun than a trapper needs" 🤣🤣🤣. In bear country, 357 is the minimum. The BARE BEAR minimum. Dallas was never not in bear country. It makes me wonder how tiny of a mouse gun he needed to carry to skip the "too much gun for the job" propaganda.
I thought exactly the same thing.
The people making these think any gun is too much gun.
R.I.P. Randy Weaver
Randy weaver was an evil Nazi
I love these one sided, crime stories. Clearly there had to be some kind of doubt, for the jury not to fully believe the governments story on the killings of the game wardens & clearly he had proof or some kind of evidence to show his life was endangered in prison by the government. What the officers where actually mad about, is that the jury didn't believe them blindly.
I think tou are jumping to conclusions here and made quite a keep of logic. If this is an area of anti government sentiment all the jury members would be those same people.
@@bryan0x05 and you think he made a leap in logic???? Just because of where it is geographically you assume everyone thinks the same.....gimmie a break hypocrite.
The jurors believed OJ!
murder is always the answer
@@bryan0x05 LMAO. no it wasn't a jump to conclusion the facts are there for all to see if you want to see them
In my opinion, he should have gotten life in prison! Justice was not served. Very sad for the families of the game wardens.
Smh God help us anytime people defend officers harassing a man trying to live off the land away from people we are definitely in trouble god needs to return n take earth back from the government
Anyone else notice that the shell the police officer collected at the scene of the shooting was a semi auto shell and not a revolver shell? 🤣
Sounds like Rambo: First Blood to me