@@ericwilliams626 This was learned from his own experiences with his family and abusive childhood. It's an interesting device that he excels so much despite his poor upbringing, like this life energy has to exist and go somewhere. And it's hyperfocused and channeled.
I grew to admire Pete’s account management skills over the course of the show. That line he said about “dons not that polite” really shifted the power over to Don and the agency and suddenly Timmy has to convince them why they want Ketchup. Don clearly hated it but it was brilliant.
Very well said. Sometimes the smallest comment can change the whole conversation. Important to look for opportunity, but also for how others can make that happen.
So the notion that Don wouldn't have been in attendance if he considered Timmy's account to be inadequate is the incentive for Timmy to covet the agency?
@@evaburnz that is part of it. In this case, Don was setting the expectation the other way of telling Timmy why he *didn't* want to work with him (morality), forcing Timmy to tell him why he did want to do it (money). Pete kept Timmy from getting indignant - "well, in that case, stay with beans!" - by saying they are interested, but their morality has a cost. He raised the stakes and dared Timmy to stay in the game. That's why Don is disgusted - it is what he is saying, it is the right move, but he doesn't like it. But yeah, classic move in human psychology to make someone chase you by pulling away after an initial show of interest. Well questioned, I wouldn't have thought it through that far without it.
My father, Arthur Churvis ("Bud Chase" in his earlier TV career), was the man at Leo Burnett in Chicago who came up with Heinz's "Anticipation" campaign. There is a very risqué story about how that all came about, and one day when everyone from back then is dead and gone (and their attorneys) I will tell it to the world. The character Don Draper in Mad Men was based on a man named Draper Daniels at Leo Burnett in Chicago. He left Leo Burnett just before my father joined. Daniels's replacement was my father's boss. Occasionally as a young boy I would go to work with my dad, such as on a weekend when he had to get ready for a big pitch on Monday. I became very familiar with the office layout, décor, and equipment. When I saw Mad Men in the storyline around 1968 thru 1973 I damn near fell out of my seat because it looked almost exactly like Leo Burnett's Chicago office during that same period, right down the the typewriters and telephones. The only thing that was different was the depiction of artists' offices, which were considerably tighter and, as you can imagine, messier than what you saw in the series. They necessarily had to film interior shots on sets that depicted more open and clutter-free workspaces, otherwise they couldn't move. These were the offices I drew pictures in when I went to work with my dad, and I was fascinated. You should have seen some of the color sketches some of them doodled on their huge drawing boards while on the phone. I say "doodled" but you would have happily framed and hung them. The most talented of them all was a brilliant artist named Bernie Nausbaum. If he were not an advertising artist he would have been a name in well-respected households. He paid respects at my father's casket the day before he was buried. I loved him for that.
Fascinating!!! Reminds me of my banking days. As a banker, we’d have almost no clue of who the analysts or print team were as we rose. As an MD, we wouldn’t even walk to those sections on the floor.
Thanks for sharing! So ... how many more people are still alive? When they've gone, please give us the "T" in this thread. Let's hope youtube lasts forever.
Don must feel a touch of guilt. Wasn’t the psychiatrist Faye Miller, who he unceremoniously dumped so he could marry his nutty secretary, the only reason their agency got a meeting with Heinz in the first place?
I always loved how Don was fiercely loyal to his customers. Mohawk was the best example. But in his private life he was the most unloyal and imoral character in all of tv😂 Really shows how he values his professional life more than he values his home life.
I feel a lot of successful men back in the 50s and throughout the 60s. A lot of men were like that in their personal life. Work came first and then family. The men were the bread winners as most of the women's workforce were paid like a quarter of a man's salary. So with the men being at work all the time, entertaining clients and potential clients, came the stress of hard work being all day at the office so booze and loose women were the way to go to relieve the stress.
In reality he's only loyal to himself, it seems that he's like that with his clients but it's only because his image is linked to them, but he will do what he needs to do to save his image even turning against his clients, like that time with Tobbaco
I feel like he feels the professional life is what gave him the personal life in the first place, since he never would have had a shot with Betty without the cash and status he gained with the blank slate of taking this new identity and putting his foot in the door of the agency. Therefore, he prioritizes that work life
Yes, but the quality of the ad wasn't the main factor. More so because "Big company runs ad from a popular TV show about ad agencies" is an immediate news story and free PR.
My favorite arc with Stan, just being locked up in a closet with nothing but pictures of Ketchup. Ps. How rad is it smoking a joint at your job with your boss?
I'm a senior architect at a firm and I'm one of the first employees my boss hired, one time we were both at a client meeting and we were high out of our minds with edible gummies but managed to charm the client enough to give us the project haha we were trying not to laugh our asses off every sentence he and I gave out.
@@m1t2a1That’s the way it was meant to be. When you could smoke a joint, catch a little buzz, and go on about your day. Pot smokers today are no different than crack heads to me. Smoking shit so strong it’ll make you sick. Dabs, shatter, everything. Can’t even just enjoy the shit anymore, everything gotta be a spaceship. Even regular bud is so strong nowadays. I miss being able to have a “beer” but now everything’s “tequila.” Another good thing tarnished.
@@allbottledup9513 I live where it's completely legal to buy in stores and grow now. 61 years old. First time was was when Rush played my high?school. So mild. Completely agree. Everything doesn't need to be a moon shot. I like beer over liquor. See the Tom T. Hall song I Like Beer. You are your own control board, and can always just have a puff.
I love how Bob Benson is a complete phony in every way, yet he keeps moving up in that world. So is Don, of course, as a person, except Don’s BS can sell anything to anyone.
l actually really liked Bob Benson's character. l know he made up his persona to move up in life but he seemed like the most human out of all the show's characters.
@@jinntakk Yes, he did seem warm and open (ironically), less suspicious of others. So maybe not phony in EVERY way, but (as I recall) his resume was completely fabricated, which feels very contemporary to OUR time.
Raymond was the biggest diva client ever. LOL! Says "I think I'll have that drink now" and then Don gets up and makes it and then he says "Nah". Dude loved to be catered to. LOL!
I'm over 40, but I remember seeing a TV commercial when I was 6 or 7 years old. A party where everyone had fun, but something was missing. And then the mother came and brought Heinz ketchup (back then in glass bottles) and everyone was happy, the family, guests, etc. a real good mood advertisement. And what can I say, since then I've only bought Heinz ketchup. I don't know anything else. The power of advertising, when done well, is unbeatable.
I realized only now that Don’s idea “pass the Heinz” is based on the scene with Stan “let’s order lunch”. Thinking about ketchup made Stan hungry, and that’s what Don wanted to achieve with the campaign.
Mr. Weiner, please reconsider creating a new series prior to Don Draper's entrance with Sterling Cooper. We are ALL behind you 100%!!! Love & Blessings from Chicago Illinois.
That would ruin the show. His mysterious past is the core part of his appeal. Whatever they would come up with, it wouldn't be as good as the audience's imagined scenarios. That's way Solo failed.
Don doesn't like Timmy, because Timmy is another Don. Different packaging, same vintage underneath. When we hate what we've become, we dislike those further back on the path for making the same mistakes and knowing we can't say anything they'll listen to. Do actually tried to several during the show - but I think he'll be fine with Timmy going off the same cliff.
I don't think Timmy is another Don......I think he hates him because Timmy is another Pete......and we all know how Don felt about Pete in this time period.
this show is rock solid, undeniable proof (much like Aliens , or Monster (with Cherise theron) were before it. that a woman can be a strong leading role, and not be unlikeable. i genuinely rooted for peggy, liked peggy as a person & not a sex symbol or object of desire. Any time i hear 'creatives' claim 'toxic' men hate leading women, i point to these & other films who did it right. sadly the modern idea of a strong female lead is to write for a male character, & stuff a woman in the role, and that doesnt work. a female strong lead MUST be pliable, like a palm tree, yielding , yet unbreaking, and palm trees are strong, and rarely break despite the fact that they get pushed around. the fact a moron like me who had to drop out of college in freshman year & work full time as a contractor knows these truths, & 'creatives' dont is the problem with modern entertainment. its lazy, unoriginal, and ignorant yuppies writing a propaganda piece & doing so proudly, because they dont know what creation is.
I love this. I learned to be *very* convincing in college. It’s funny how you can make anyone do anything as long as it’s actually kind of terrible for them. It’s so difficult to get someone to do the right thing. I can give you dozens of facts and figures telling you why you shouldn’t get in your car and drive at 100mph. It won’t make you want to drive any faster or slower. Or I could tell you to imagine what it feels like to glide over the road at 100mph, hearing the other cars woosh by as you pass them like they’re standing still. Think back to the first time you rode in a car and how you felt every tiny bump on the road, and how you strained just a bit as you turned.
The brazenness with which they admit to each other they cheat is amazing. I can't imagine people who control their lives so carefully could be so open about things that could blow their whole lives up. Always makes it seem too Hollywood and less grounded to me, but then again times may have been like that in the past, misogyny etc.
I did see an episode of where one of the top sales people was coughing up blood which later became cancer through smoking. In Chicago over a million Polish people live there followed by 240000 Ukrainians but Americans always call Ukrainians Mad Cossack it's a cliche from Vasyl Turchin a Ukrainian American serving in the Civil war.
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It’s crazy how Don is loyal to everyone but his family, and his closest friends
There are a lot of people who have the psychology of torching those closest to them and cordial with those who know them the least.
Don just had better options. That’s as loyal as the average spouse is
@@ericwilliams626 This was learned from his own experiences with his family and abusive childhood. It's an interesting device that he excels so much despite his poor upbringing, like this life energy has to exist and go somewhere. And it's hyperfocused and channeled.
i see you have met my father lmao@@ericwilliams626
He is relatively loyal to Pete later in the show and Pete to him. He pays off his loan to the partners that he can’t afford.
I grew to admire Pete’s account management skills over the course of the show. That line he said about “dons not that polite” really shifted the power over to Don and the agency and suddenly Timmy has to convince them why they want Ketchup. Don clearly hated it but it was brilliant.
Very well said. Sometimes the smallest comment can change the whole conversation. Important to look for opportunity, but also for how others can make that happen.
So the notion that Don wouldn't have been in attendance if he considered Timmy's account to be inadequate is the incentive for Timmy to covet the agency?
@@evaburnz that is part of it. In this case, Don was setting the expectation the other way of telling Timmy why he *didn't* want to work with him (morality), forcing Timmy to tell him why he did want to do it (money). Pete kept Timmy from getting indignant - "well, in that case, stay with beans!" - by saying they are interested, but their morality has a cost. He raised the stakes and dared Timmy to stay in the game. That's why Don is disgusted - it is what he is saying, it is the right move, but he doesn't like it. But yeah, classic move in human psychology to make someone chase you by pulling away after an initial show of interest. Well questioned, I wouldn't have thought it through that far without it.
"Sometimes you gotta dance with the one that brung ya" ...what a quote lol
Yeah, Darrell Royal
Actually Bear Bryant..talking bout john david crowe at A&M....from his book @@gezenews
@@scottybelcher1815 actually borrowed from royal
Timmy taking his ring off as he leaves the room...
Noted that recently, too. Is it so he can hook up more easily while in town?
👀
MM is full of little details like that. So good.
@@53die9storno It's a subtle way of telling Don that loyalty isn't that important to him in my opinion.
He is on his way to meet his normal escort.
“I live here, Pete” 😂😂
"We'll have your wig ready then ma'am."
😅😂
My father, Arthur Churvis ("Bud Chase" in his earlier TV career), was the man at Leo Burnett in Chicago who came up with Heinz's "Anticipation" campaign.
There is a very risqué story about how that all came about, and one day when everyone from back then is dead and gone (and their attorneys) I will tell it to the world.
The character Don Draper in Mad Men was based on a man named Draper Daniels at Leo Burnett in Chicago. He left Leo Burnett just before my father joined. Daniels's replacement was my father's boss.
Occasionally as a young boy I would go to work with my dad, such as on a weekend when he had to get ready for a big pitch on Monday. I became very familiar with the office layout, décor, and equipment.
When I saw Mad Men in the storyline around 1968 thru 1973 I damn near fell out of my seat because it looked almost exactly like Leo Burnett's Chicago office during that same period, right down the the typewriters and telephones.
The only thing that was different was the depiction of artists' offices, which were considerably tighter and, as you can imagine, messier than what you saw in the series. They necessarily had to film interior shots on sets that depicted more open and clutter-free workspaces, otherwise they couldn't move.
These were the offices I drew pictures in when I went to work with my dad, and I was fascinated. You should have seen some of the color sketches some of them doodled on their huge drawing boards while on the phone. I say "doodled" but you would have happily framed and hung them.
The most talented of them all was a brilliant artist named Bernie Nausbaum. If he were not an advertising artist he would have been a name in well-respected households. He paid respects at my father's casket the day before he was buried. I loved him for that.
Fascinating!!
Really cool story!!!!!
Thanks for sharing your story!
Fascinating!!! Reminds me of my banking days. As a banker, we’d have almost no clue of who the analysts or print team were as we rose. As an MD, we wouldn’t even walk to those sections on the floor.
Thanks for sharing! So ... how many more people are still alive? When they've gone, please give us the "T" in this thread. Let's hope youtube lasts forever.
Don must feel a touch of guilt. Wasn’t the psychiatrist Faye Miller, who he unceremoniously dumped so he could marry his nutty secretary, the only reason their agency got a meeting with Heinz in the first place?
I always loved how Don was fiercely loyal to his customers. Mohawk was the best example. But in his private life he was the most unloyal and imoral character in all of tv😂
Really shows how he values his professional life more than he values his home life.
I feel a lot of successful men back in the 50s and throughout the 60s. A lot of men were like that in their personal life. Work came first and then family. The men were the bread winners as most of the women's workforce were paid like a quarter of a man's salary. So with the men being at work all the time, entertaining clients and potential clients, came the stress of hard work being all day at the office so booze and loose women were the way to go to relieve the stress.
In reality he's only loyal to himself, it seems that he's like that with his clients but it's only because his image is linked to them, but he will do what he needs to do to save his image even turning against his clients, like that time with Tobbaco
Until the end
I feel like he feels the professional life is what gave him the personal life in the first place, since he never would have had a shot with Betty without the cash and status he gained with the blank slate of taking this new identity and putting his foot in the door of the agency. Therefore, he prioritizes that work life
He lives a double life
Hes loyal and hardworking...at work
peggy so dumb for spilling the beans…
She is not a nice person
I love when Pete and Don are on the same page together it makes the show wonderful
Heinz eventually ran Don’s campaign IRL
Yes, but the quality of the ad wasn't the main factor. More so because "Big company runs ad from a popular TV show about ad agencies" is an immediate news story and free PR.
@@Димитрије-ч4б It was a good campaign though. The ideas behind it were really strong. Didn’t hurt either.
Honestly Peggy's pitch is better
I’ll have your wig ready 😂😂
I name all the confidential programs at my work "Project Kill Machine"!
I love how energetic and positive Ted was early on
I mustard been high as a kite when I first watched this but then I ketchup to the plot line real quick
You sound like a saucey lad!
Hilarious
Amen
Whoa at 6:44 does Heinz Ketchup guy just smoothly take off his wedding ring? Dear lord. I missed that detail before.
So did I. Damn.
While saying he doesn't need an excuse to come to Manhattan. He's meeting his mistress right after this. Just openly cheating no big deal
Whoever made this video did god's work. Incredible. And thank you.
Peggy and Stan being work spouses after Peggy leaves is the cutest
Stan and Don smoking a joint in a secret closet is hilarious.
Wish we could more clips on the business aspect of Madmen
"How are things, Don? 😃"
"🙄"
One of my favourite moments, always a lolz
The prestige that comes with ketchup. Only in advertising.
My favorite arc with Stan, just being locked up in a closet with nothing but pictures of Ketchup.
Ps. How rad is it smoking a joint at your job with your boss?
I'm a senior architect at a firm and I'm one of the first employees my boss hired, one time we were both at a client meeting and we were high out of our minds with edible gummies but managed to charm the client enough to give us the project haha we were trying not to laugh our asses off every sentence he and I gave out.
I miss the '80s
Strong weed in the 60s was about 5% THC. Today 25%. They would have had to smoke a lot.
@@m1t2a1That’s the way it was meant to be. When you could smoke a joint, catch a little buzz, and go on about your day. Pot smokers today are no different than crack heads to me. Smoking shit so strong it’ll make you sick. Dabs, shatter, everything. Can’t even just enjoy the shit anymore, everything gotta be a spaceship. Even regular bud is so strong nowadays. I miss being able to have a “beer” but now everything’s “tequila.” Another good thing tarnished.
@@allbottledup9513 I live where it's completely legal to buy in stores and grow now. 61 years old. First time was was when Rush played my high?school. So mild. Completely agree. Everything doesn't need to be a moon shot. I like beer over liquor. See the Tom T. Hall song I Like Beer.
You are your own control board, and can always just have a puff.
Cole Phelps resigns as a disgraced LA detective and moves to the other side of the county to start a new life in an advertising firm.
I love how Bob Benson is a complete phony in every way, yet he keeps moving up in that world. So is Don, of course, as a person, except Don’s BS can sell anything to anyone.
That's how men operate. Men respect phoniness.
Don was solving problems, Bob was solving his problems.
l actually really liked Bob Benson's character. l know he made up his persona to move up in life but he seemed like the most human out of all the show's characters.
@@jinntakk Yes, he did seem warm and open (ironically), less suspicious of others. So maybe not phony in EVERY way, but (as I recall) his resume was completely fabricated, which feels very contemporary to OUR time.
@@ericwilliams626Don must have envy that
I love seeing don smile while smokin a j
Polished pollock
Raymond was the biggest diva client ever. LOL! Says "I think I'll have that drink now" and then Don gets up and makes it and then he says "Nah". Dude loved to be catered to. LOL!
Peggy: “Everyone hates me here.”
Stan: “Well that was bound to happen.”
These two 😂❤
“I’m tellin ya it clears the cobwebs”
You can say that again
I'm over 40, but I remember seeing a TV commercial when I was 6 or 7 years old. A party where everyone had fun, but something was missing. And then the mother came and brought Heinz ketchup (back then in glass bottles) and everyone was happy, the family, guests, etc. a real good mood advertisement. And what can I say, since then I've only bought Heinz ketchup. I don't know anything else. The power of advertising, when done well, is unbeatable.
same thing but with Peter Pan peanut butter.
Be careful who you share your secrets with. Co-workers are not your friends.
project KILLMACHINE!
Fav scene
So sleezy how he said he doesn't need an excuse to go to the city and removes his wedding ring..
This still feels like the pinnacle of Television…years later…little to no fluff in any given episode….
I realized only now that Don’s idea “pass the Heinz” is based on the scene with Stan “let’s order lunch”. Thinking about ketchup made Stan hungry, and that’s what Don wanted to achieve with the campaign.
Stan is such a great character, love the actor
Cole Phelps is just to straight faced for Advertising. 🤣
Heinz Ketchup.
At Last, Something Beautiful You Can Truly Own.
Smoking weed with the boss. It happens when you both respect the game and know your place in it. A small conspiracy of realists.
Mr. Weiner, please reconsider creating a new series prior to Don Draper's entrance with Sterling Cooper. We are ALL behind you 100%!!! Love & Blessings from Chicago Illinois.
Better Call Cooper
That would ruin the show. His mysterious past is the core part of his appeal. Whatever they would come up with, it wouldn't be as good as the audience's imagined scenarios. That's way Solo failed.
Classic smugness from big ketchup.
“It’s the Coca-Cola of condiments”
Sunshine!! Sunshine!! 🌞
Look at the way don looks at bob. Lol 😆
Now I know what Victor did after his time abroad. 😂
Don doesn't like Timmy, because Timmy is another Don. Different packaging, same vintage underneath. When we hate what we've become, we dislike those further back on the path for making the same mistakes and knowing we can't say anything they'll listen to. Do actually tried to several during the show - but I think he'll be fine with Timmy going off the same cliff.
I don't think Timmy is another Don......I think he hates him because Timmy is another Pete......and we all know how Don felt about Pete in this time period.
Put the ketchup in the beans...😂😂😂
Ketchup on a hot dog should be a felony.
Wish I could drink at work
Forgot what good writing was
I don't care how "hip" your office was, there's no way people were just casually smoking joints at work and offering hits to the boss in the 60s
Love seeing Jonah from Superstore, .. with an outrageous fake mustache!
I would of called it Project Q. Because K is too easy to figure out.
Not really. You would have to know it was a Heinz project to begin with.
Love u Jon hamm ❤
Ginsberg had some incredible dialogue/scenes written for him….
Project KILLMACHINE….his comeon to Peggy…the story of his birth…
I have never been able to work out how it is that the Americans speak English (albeit American English) and yet it might be a foreign language. 😂
Was there ever a better show?!
2:12 my reaction skipping 2 mins ahead and hearing that with no context
is there a homoerotic undertone i'm picking up here? maybe i'm slow on the uptake as someone who hasn't watched the program.
Stan was extremely talented
Stan the man
this show is rock solid, undeniable proof (much like Aliens , or Monster (with Cherise theron) were before it. that a woman can be a strong leading role, and not be unlikeable. i genuinely rooted for peggy, liked peggy as a person & not a sex symbol or object of desire. Any time i hear 'creatives' claim 'toxic' men hate leading women, i point to these & other films who did it right. sadly the modern idea of a strong female lead is to write for a male character, & stuff a woman in the role, and that doesnt work. a female strong lead MUST be pliable, like a palm tree, yielding , yet unbreaking, and palm trees are strong, and rarely break despite the fact that they get pushed around. the fact a moron like me who had to drop out of college in freshman year & work full time as a contractor knows these truths, & 'creatives' dont is the problem with modern entertainment. its lazy, unoriginal, and ignorant yuppies writing a propaganda piece & doing so proudly, because they dont know what creation is.
is a hot dog a sandwich? you've got yer bread, yer meat filling and yer condiments.. it's a sandwich!
I know the offices were filled with cig smoke, but how the hell is he smoking a joint in an office like that without skunking up the whole place
Ted was one of the few good guys on this show.
I love this. I learned to be *very* convincing in college. It’s funny how you can make anyone do anything as long as it’s actually kind of terrible for them.
It’s so difficult to get someone to do the right thing. I can give you dozens of facts and figures telling you why you shouldn’t get in your car and drive at 100mph. It won’t make you want to drive any faster or slower.
Or I could tell you to imagine what it feels like to glide over the road at 100mph, hearing the other cars woosh by as you pass them like they’re standing still. Think back to the first time you rode in a car and how you felt every tiny bump on the road, and how you strained just a bit as you turned.
Polished Pollock.....1960's lingo Lmao
AND THEN PEGGY COMES IN AND YEETS ALL OVER THAT SHIT
The brazenness with which they admit to each other they cheat is amazing. I can't imagine people who control their lives so carefully could be so open about things that could blow their whole lives up. Always makes it seem too Hollywood and less grounded to me, but then again times may have been like that in the past, misogyny etc.
Bro Don was high af 😵💫
The full Heinz ketchup story ***Part 1*** 😂
Hey, it’s Cole Phelps!
I'm not winking here
I did see an episode of where one of the top sales people was coughing up blood which later became cancer through smoking. In Chicago over a million Polish people live there followed by 240000 Ukrainians but Americans always call Ukrainians Mad Cossack it's a cliche from Vasyl Turchin a Ukrainian American serving in the Civil war.
Ronnie "Sunshine" Bass!
SUNSHINE
why is this comment section full of people with the exact same sense of humour as me
do they throw ketchup at walls was my only question. heinie jokes my kryptonite. weak weakling jokes a strength. manyway
and this dude helped sha steal what they got and are getting even now...
PROJECT KILLMACHINE!!!!!!!!
how can you dismiss ketchup???
The actor playing Timmy can't act
Should I watch Mad Men?
Feast day
7:23
That Daniel Tosh?
0:04 this is the game they were referring to th-cam.com/video/E81pgUnXaTA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DlBdzwQ8rhRHZm-S
And after that gig in marketing , phelps joined the force ad rose the ranks to become a famous and controversial LAPD detective
The bit at the end....fucking stoners lol
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Timmy is a horrible actor. Like he's reading from a cue card, must be related to someone important.
!
Don fucked up by not taking Heinz, could've saved SCDP
ketchup is gay
Hans Ketsup
What a whiner