My first computer was a VIC-20, it was amazing back then with the graphics, colors and sound. I didn't have that many games, but the User Manual was very good. Basically it was like 2 pages of: this is how you connect your VIC-20 to your TV and then the rest was: This is how you write programs for your new computer.
That manual is brilliant, I loved typing in the long (at the time to me) programs from the manual only for them not to work, which was due to my short attention span and young age but it made me keep coming back and trying again and eventually I corrected my mistakes and it worked. I loved the "screenshots" and the representations of cursor up, down, left, and right. The C64 follows in the same vein but the Vic20 manual will always stick with me.
The VIC-20 was my first one too in 1982. Still absolutely love it. And great to see that there is devices like the Colour Maximite 2 by Geoff Graham which carry that spirit of creating your own content in Basic into the modern times 🧡
The Vic 20 holds bitter sweet memories for me! While everyone I knew had either the spectrum 48k or Commodore 64, we had the Vic 20. Our local Video Rental store had about half a dozen Vic games and a billion Spectrum and Commodore 64 games that got constantly refreshed with the latest and greatest game releases! I think the only game I remember was blitz. Seeing Chariot Racer rings a bell but I can’t honestly say it’s one I had / played, seeing it here just struck a chord! The Vic kind of shattered my illusion of computers back in the day, it was just so unusable to be of anything useful. Enjoyed this video, thanks! Subscribed!
I really wanted extra memory since "3583 bytes free" wasn't that much. Besides having game cartridges, I had a Commodore cassette deck; I typed in a lot of programs from books and magazines to save to tape. So I got some use out of it.
I like Cosmic Cruncher. It was loud and colorful and the pacman is replaced by the C=. My other fave was Demon Attack. The VIC-20 was my first computer (I was 11). I learned BASIC on it. Great video! Cheers!
I was 11 too! Hello, fellow Gen-Xer. ;-) I cut my teeth with BASIC on it, as well. I thought I was hot stuff knowing how to program basic games and whatnot. lol
This takes me back in Time !!! It had an Excellent choice of Vector graphics and good selection of games, some were very addictive as well. an ideally designed machine for our time, rather I see it been as one of the most colorful and expandable computers of its Era and a role model for its daughter computers in the 80's. Was cleverly designed and had less fail prone components then its other commodore counterparts. I never had a Vic fail on me, even the Roms...unless you neglect one of course or the power supply warps, above all these were all a good selection of games and those were mostly added on the penaultimate+ cartridge decades later...which became a must for the Vic-20 lovers.
I can't complain about the list since it's totally subjecctive even if my top ten differs a fair bit. My faves in no particular order: - Tutankham - Lode Runner - Demon Attack - Sword of Fargoal - Galaxian - Sargon 2 - Pole Position - Gorf - Pharaoh's Curse - Ultima: Escape from Mount Drash Such a brilliant computer. 40+ years and I'm still loving it.
When I was about 7 years old in 1985, I had Gorf, Cosmic Cruncher, Raid On Fort Knox, Poker, Blackjack, Pipes, Radar Ratrace, Omega Race, Tooth Invaders, Jupiter Lander, Donkey Kong, and some others that I can't remember off the top of my head. The joystick I used had a rubber ball end that had toothmarks from my cat, Dusty. He liked it so I just let him chew on it and it was all good lol he was a great kitty
I've always thought it was interesting to see the variance in quality of VIC-20 games. Some games (Vic Invaders, Omega Race) are amazingly good arcade ports considering the system's limited hardware, and then you've got Q*bert - that one is painful to see.
Yeah, while people were still finding their way and literally everyone was new and just starting to develop basic game mechanics the variance in quality is pronounced. That's why I laugh when people claim there's over 10k games for c64. There might be 10k unique pieces of software but the overwhelming majority are ultra rough "my first coding experience" experiments that are many times unfinished our broken with bugs. Once you filter out all the amateur shovel ware you end up at a number a lot closer to 500 than 10000.
Bear in mind that a lot of these titles were cartridges, meaning the software code doesn't eat into the VIC's limited stock RAM at all. And the stock 5.5K of RAM is actually a lot of RAM compared to consoles of the time. For example, the Intellivision only had 1K of RAM, and even the much later NES would only have 4K of RAM.
I loved that little machine. It was the second computer I had gotten. The first was the Tmex Sinclair 1000. It was a nice intro into computers but got frustrating real fast with the membrane keyboard and intermittent crashes while typing in long programs. The Vic-20 was a breath of fresh air with color, sound, and a real keyboard. That and really launched me into computers. I was very much into electronics at the time and dove into interfacing my VIC into some of my breadboard digital projects for control and monitoring. Started out using the parallel port, but later learned to make use of the expansion/cartridge port after building my own "real world" interfaces. Ah, the days of computer discovery in my youth. My next and all time favorite computer was the Commodore 64. But the VIC-20 will always have a special place in my heart. I loved the games, but played mostly on the C64. I still have my original VIC, along with the TS 1000 and a few C64s. Also a C16 and C128. Even a couple of SX-64's I am restoring. I loved the games, but played mostly on the C64. Even ran a BBS for a time on the C64s.
A great watch that, Think i got my Vic 20 late in 85 after having the brilliant Spekky 48k since 82 which actually ruled the 80s for home gaming for me,
My very first computer and I adored it. First game I ever played on it was a cartridge version of Adventureland. Boy, was I hooked. I was so proud of myself when I finally finished it. For fun, I played that game again only maybe five years back and I was stunned that I remembered most all of the puzzles and things to accomplish to finish the game. That game really stuck in my head! lol I got the 16K expansion cart and that really opened things up for me. I have great memories of Gorf, Choplifter... and Shamus... one that wasn't mentioned on this list. Great little game. :-)
Thank you for the video. About 5 of these would be in my top 20 as well. I still have my original Vic-20 from about 1982 and a pretty huge collection of games. Games not on this list that I like more than some are Froggee, Vic-21 Blackjack, Artillery Duel, Galaxian, and one that my friends and I played a ton... Dodgecars. For this one, I remember three of us in the same room with three Vic-20s and 3 TVs. A great memory.
The games I remember from my VIC 20 were Gorf, Omega Race, Demon Attack, Atlantis, Lunar Leepers, and The Count (and several other Scott Adams text games).
I remember the VIC-20, it was my first computer from either Christmas 1981 or 1982. Don't remember having any games on cassette tape just on cartridges. I did have Radar Rat Race and space invaders game Star Battle and those were the two I probably played the most. The only other one I can remember is Mole Attack.
My first computer was the vic 20, a newsagent was getting rid of them for $50 AUD at the time, I think they were getting the old stock out in time for the incoming c64. I never had a tape drive for it so I kept typing in a program from the manual or a magazine or something each time I wanted to play it! Glad when I moved onto the c64 though, it was a massive upgrade.
What a great video. I wish I had the words to describe how desperately I wanted one of these back when I was a kid. I would see them on display (in department stores, haha), running something fascinating, but alas, it was not meant to be. Loved your video, and I see that it really was as amazing as I thought it was as a little kid, especially when framed in the context of when it was released. And, let's face it, as a fan of Star Trek, my sadness (at not having one) was amplified considerably.
Suprised my all time fave game Parker bros tutankhamun was only #15 truly top ten material also no Frogger I thought again Parker bros did an awesome conversion .great work lots of memories had no idea the Vic20 had a star trek game
I missed getting Circus Atari on my 2600/VCS, though I played it another kids' home, so got Clowns for the VIC-20, which might not have been as good, but provided some entertainment.
I finally got around to getting Gorf for the Atari a few years ago, but I played Gorf on the VIC-20 in the 1980s (as well as a few times at the arcade).
Makes me wish I had more experience with computers in the early-mid 80's. Used Apple ii'sinschool a bit mostly remembere playing Conan on it. My first PC was a Leading Edge 386, with the printer it was about $2500, must have been the early 90's.
Got a Vic-20 for my 12th birthday which cost my mum $500 NZD - not cheap. I spent 14 hours on it on the first day but had no tape player so once the power went off that was it (got one eventually). Highlight for me was learning machine code and programming a few games with a mix of basic and machine code with joystick and sound. A Space Invader clone was my peak effort. Good times back in the day.
Played a TON of Omega Race! My faves were that, GORF, Cosmic Cruncher, Tooth Invaders, Gortek and the Microchips (an educational game) and weirdly enough, Hangman.
Is it practical to actually buy a Vic-20 these days to play it? I looked some up online but tested and working ones seem few and far between. I’d love to own one. The spider and snake games looked so neat for the time period.
We had a vic 20 for a couple years (I think it was borrowed from someone). I remember Radar Rat Race and Omega Race fondly. Glad to see them on the list :-) The only other Vic 20 game I remember was tooth Invaders. I loved that one too at the time but it may not have aged so well. Would need to try it again to know for sure
Radar Rat Race was the first cartridge my father got for me for that system. I also enjoyed Omega Race. I think I got tired of playing Atari, and got games for this system instead, like Clowns, Pole Position and Gorf.
Great Nostalgia However I would like to point out that the Better Vic20 games have appeared in the last 6-7 years. Cheese and Onion, Escape 2020, Pentagorat, Monaco GP. etc.
As I said in reply to a couple of other people, Cheese & Onion actually got quite a few votes, but not quite enough to make the Top 20. But it doesn't matter how good the homebrew games are, nostalgia always wins out in these polls.
I suspect some of my top games now would be quite different from my list back in the 80's... for example, I recall loving Garden Wars as a child, but seeing footage of the game now, the sheer amount of activity on the screen is brain melting! Gorf was definitely one that held up though!
I loved my Vic 20. You had to use your imagination and I certainly did. As a kid, I played the games Wacky Waiters, Scramble, Jackpot and Radar Rat Race. When we eventually upgraded to the C64 and played the games Scramble and Jackpot I remember being disappointed as the graphics on the C64 were jerky and not as smooth as I thought they were on the Vic20. I then went back and played them on the Vic 20 only to find they were jerky, I was sure the versions I had were not the same as when I was younger so I searched high and low for the games that I thought I remembered, but they were the games I remembered, it's just my imagination filled in the details for me and as I grew older that magical imagination stopped working. Initially, I was also disappointed with the sound of the C64 because I could make music on the Vic20 much more easily (Even though it was out of tune, Radar Rat Race for example) it was easy to program music in basic. It was only later when my brain expanded that I came to appreciate the C64 with its ADSR and filters which were too complicated for the younger me. Anyway, the Vic20 is still an amazing machine that deserves more recognition than it does, it's just overshadowed by the mighty C64.
I think I had Scramble, but it was on tape, not cassette and took awhile to load. It was fairly boring, so after a couple plays I'd move on to another game or project.
I had a VIC20 with Radar Rat Race and like 10 text adventures, all on cartridge. No idea where I might find games. So it was disappointing for that reason.
As a UK VIC owner, my list would look quite different. I'd have Gorf, Jetpac and Blitz, but also titles like The Perils of Willy, Skyhawk, Bonzo, Star Battle, Raid on Fort Knox, Arcadia, Metagalatic Llamas Battle at the Edge of Time and Psycho Shopper.
The Vic was my first computer. It is hard to imagine a worse business computer than the VIC. The ONLY thing the vic had going for it, even for a gaming computer was it was cheap. I literally saved my allowance and lawn mowing to buy it because it was under 100 Dollars. The VIC was just one long series of compromises that leads to a whole that is not very good. No hardware scrolling. No hardware sprites. 5k of RAM. Extremely low resolution screen. I think even the atari 2600 has a higher horizontal resolution. The 22 character text mode is only 176 pixels wide. Using multicolor characters cuts that in 1/2.
The retro groups should try some of the newer Vic20 games. For an all time list, these are all 40 years old. Example: Cheese and Onion is a smooth scrolling platformer.
I said in reply to another comment, Cheese & Onion actually got a lot of votes and only just missed out on the top 20. But with polls like this nostalgia ALWAYS wins out.
I was 11 years old when I got my first computer in early 1982. Played lots of games and still play some old and new VIC20 games on emulation... #19 - Never heard of. # 18 - Never Heard of. #17 - Never heard of. #16 - Never heard of. #15 - Never heard of... WTF? I am in an alternate universe? #14 - Finally, I game I actually played! #13 nope, Text adventure? Who made this list?
I want to change my votes after watching this... Can't believe I forgot to include any of the Scott Adams adventures!!! I loved those!!! ;-) Of course, my top 5 changes weekly anyways depending on what I've seen/played recently... ;-)
Interesting video. Not sure I've learned anything vital but interesting. I read the title. Then you said top VIC-20 games of all time, i engaged thought... and then really thought... followed by tumbleweed. Realised i know very little about the VIC-20's games. I remember using one a few times in computer studies at school, used mainly PETS, the sole C64 was hogged. BBC Micro replaced them all eventually. Interesting words used in the Shatner advert. Did he say best or most exciting computer of the 80's, words to that effect? Start of the wrong couple of decades to claim that. Understandable as the 70's were a bit slow, slow and brown, with beige for computers. Interesting the term games console had not yet reared it's head, back then they were apparently just called games. They were pretty much locked in with what they had, no internet, no patches nor updates. Each machine a veritable Pong multiverse.
His claim is nonsense, the Texas Instruments TI-99 and Atari 8-bit both came out in 1979 and were much more capable, especially the Atari which wasn't bettered for years.
VIC-20 was my first ever computer and the step to my career in computing. When friends had Spectrums I wanted something with a real keyboard as I wanted to program. My favorite games were Gorf, Cosmic Cruncher, Perils of Willy, Sargon II and of course Blitz. Surprised Perils of Willy didn't make the Top 20.
It has similarities, but I wouldn't call it a clone as they play quite different. For a start Blitz is a single player game and you can't crash in Canyon Bomber.
UNderstand the methodology.. but surprised.. a) Jetpac isn't in the Top3 - it's the best looking game on the platform by miles b) Matrix didn't make it. 100% approve of Omega Race tho :) And Blitz... helped that it was a pack-in game.. but I played it for hours and hours :)
You need to download a program called PRG Starter, you can link it with VICE and it automatically sets up the ROM/RAM requirements for you, it's brilliant!
@@TheLairdsLair Thank you recommendation, i have had the HYPERPSIN set of VIC-20 there are some games in PRG and always ends with SYNTAX ERROR I wil try PRG Starter, thanks helping me out!
Number one and two are correct - but I'd switch them around. Gorf was a blast on the system. I'm surprised with your PacMan clone pick when Cosmic Cruncher was such a solid title.
So glad you did not put Ms. Pacman on that list. Though it looked better than any PacMac game on home consoles, the playability was horrendous. It was super slow too. Everything moved a fraction of the speed of the game in the arcade. I felt so ripped off when i purchased the game for my VIC-20 back in '83 (or '84?). Gorf was my favorite but I was a bit disappointed to discover upon the first play that it did not have the Galaxian screen. Big bummer. I still remember going back to the box and reading front and back to notice that indeed Galaxian were not mentioned anywhere. Bummer. Later and thanks!
Nobody voted for Ms. Pac-Man at all, I didn't choose what went in, it was purely based on voting. None of the home versions of Gorf had the Galaxian level due to copyright reasons.
@@TheLairdsLair Yep about Galaxians --but my teenage self back then sure didn't know that and felt ripped off at the time. Still, Gorf would have been my personal favorite vote.
I agree with the list except for Blitz.. That game was crap! All you did was time when to hit the fire button. I would swap it out for Bomber which was an amazing Scramble clone (which I thought actually looked better than Scramble)
Some of the games on your list were good but a few were stinkers (no offense). Actually the best games were created in the last few years. They pushed the hardware to the max and will blow you away. Check out "Chuckie and Egg", "Prince of Persia", "Get more Diamonds", "Cheese & Onion", etc.
No offense taken because I didn't choose these games! As the intro states, these games were voted for by around 500 people in the retro gaming community. Prince of Persia was released after this video was made, but Cheese & Onion did make the top 40 and only just missed out on the top 20.
Very US-biased list here. Not your fault, most of the people on the forums will be Yanks, but I have to say as a British VIC owner back in the day I don't recognise the majority of these...
I think the VIC-20 was more popular in the USA than anywhere else, though. It's not like the C64 where the center of gravity of the C64 enthusiast community is basically the UK. (So much so that people tend to not realize how big the C64 was in the USA.)
It was mostly Americans that voted, but there were some Brits and Italians too. Actually there are probably more British VIC games in the back half of the Top 40.
Most Americans that I know that still concern themselves with retro-related things are not interested in any way with the Vic - which is sad. That said, the list of games was great IMO. All very impressive tittles that are fun to play today. I would be curious if there are strong British favourites that are hidden gems to Americans and the rest of the world.@@TheLairdsLair
My first computer was the Vic20 but it was a terrible machine with rubbish games. My parents bought me one from a pile of on sale VICS sold from 'What Every Woman Wants' store in early eighties for £70. Even back then it was terrible. Computing began for me once I sold my Vic20 and I got a Commodore 64 - a real computer.
I think the text games should have been left out and some modern games like pentogorat, cheese & onion, and planet X1 should have been included. I can't even imagine the level of disappointment if someone invited me over to use their new vic20 computer that I'd seen advertised has having cool arcade games, only to have them plop on a humdrum text adventures. "Wtf is this? I thought you said you had video games but this is just a digital version of one of those dumb choose your own adventure books. I can have this experience without a computer, where's the video games you promised!?!?!
I don't get to decide what games should and shouldn't be left out, it's what the community voted for. You'll be pleased to hear Cheese & Onion only just missed out on the Top 20 and is in the wider Top 40 video.
@@TheLairdsLair looking forward to it. Thanks for the content I never get tired of hearing different takes and discussions on all these systems and games.
I actually liked that the text adventures were included. To me (and this is only my personal taste), they are the only games I would play on this machine. On the Amiga I played all sorts of games, including text adventures, but on the Amiga those were the minority. Not meaning the criticize or disrespect nobody, it just my personal taste 😊
I don't think a list of best games for the VIC-20 would be complete without Scott Adams text adventure games. I got three: Adventureland was first, then Pirate Cove which was an easy win, then Voodoo Castle which took a little time. I heard Adventure for Atari was based on a text adventure game, Colossal Cave, but why didn't they convert some more to video action-adventure if it was successful? I don't think I ever invited anyone over to play games on the VIC-20. It had only one joystick port so it was just one-player. I did play Atari 2600 games at other kids' homes, but only a few were two-player games as the one-player game became the thing in the 1980s.
Full Top 50 Games List:
50 - Bewitched
49 - Tank Commander
48 - Pulse
47 - R.I.P.
46 - Doom
45 - Lazer Zone
44 - Popeye
43 - Dodo Lair
42 - Q*bert
41 - Vic Nibbler
40 - Metrodome
39 - Quakers
38 - Escape
37 - Hellgate
36 - Frogger
35 - Myriad
34 - Wacky Waiters
33 - Amok!
32 - Cosmic Cruncher
31 - Paratroopers
30 - Dig Dug
29 - Hunchback
28 - Megagalactic Llamas
27 - Atlantis
26 - Cheese & Onion
25 - Perils of Willy
24 - Matrix
23 - Shamus
22 - Alien Blitz
21 - Sword of Fargoal
20 - Choplifter
19 - Spiders of Mars
18 - Chariot Race
17 - Star Trek
16 - Space Snake
15 - Tutankham
14 - Donkey Kong
13 - Voodoo Castle
12 - Rockman
11 - Pirate Cove
10 - Adventureland
9 - Jupiter Lander
8 - Blitz
7 - Vic Avenger
6 - Jetpac
5 - Radar Rat Race
4 - Jelly Monsters
3 - Gridrunner
2 - Gorf
1 - Omega Race
My first computer was a VIC-20, it was amazing back then with the graphics, colors and sound. I didn't have that many games, but the User Manual was very good. Basically it was like 2 pages of: this is how you connect your VIC-20 to your TV and then the rest was: This is how you write programs for your new computer.
That manual is brilliant, I loved typing in the long (at the time to me) programs from the manual only for them not to work, which was due to my short attention span and young age but it made me keep coming back and trying again and eventually I corrected my mistakes and it worked. I loved the "screenshots" and the representations of cursor up, down, left, and right. The C64 follows in the same vein but the Vic20 manual will always stick with me.
Too right. I have never come across a better manual. Without it I doubt I would have had a career focused around computers.
Yes I remember that manual, I used to read a chapter per night when I was supposed to be in bed asleep.
The VIC-20 was my first one too in 1982. Still absolutely love it. And great to see that there is devices like the Colour Maximite 2 by Geoff Graham which carry that spirit of creating your own content in Basic into the modern times 🧡
The Vic 20 holds bitter sweet memories for me! While everyone I knew had either the spectrum 48k or Commodore 64, we had the Vic 20. Our local Video Rental store had about half a dozen Vic games and a billion Spectrum and Commodore 64 games that got constantly refreshed with the latest and greatest game releases!
I think the only game I remember was blitz. Seeing Chariot Racer rings a bell but I can’t honestly say it’s one I had / played, seeing it here just struck a chord!
The Vic kind of shattered my illusion of computers back in the day, it was just so unusable to be of anything useful.
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So unusable? Did you not just see a few of the great games for it. There was tons of other software too. Disk drive etc.
I really wanted extra memory since "3583 bytes free" wasn't that much. Besides having game cartridges, I had a Commodore cassette deck; I typed in a lot of programs from books and magazines to save to tape. So I got some use out of it.
Great list! I spent so much time with my Vic in the early 80's. Very fond memories.
I like Cosmic Cruncher. It was loud and colorful and the pacman is replaced by the C=. My other fave was Demon Attack. The VIC-20 was my first computer (I was 11). I learned BASIC on it. Great video! Cheers!
Cosmic Cruncher is in the wider Top 40, got quite a few votes.
I had this game down to a science, i found a pattern that worked flawlessly , i just remember it was like cheating, you couldn't die. lol
I was 11 too! Hello, fellow Gen-Xer. ;-) I cut my teeth with BASIC on it, as well. I thought I was hot stuff knowing how to program basic games and whatnot. lol
This takes me back in Time !!! It had an Excellent choice of Vector graphics and good selection of games, some were very addictive as well. an ideally designed machine for our time, rather I see it been as one of the most colorful and expandable computers of its Era and a role model for its daughter computers in the 80's. Was cleverly designed and had less fail prone components then its other commodore counterparts. I never had a Vic fail on me, even the Roms...unless you neglect one of course or the power supply warps, above all these were all a good selection of games and those were mostly added on the penaultimate+ cartridge decades later...which became a must for the Vic-20 lovers.
I really enjoyed the VIC 20.Thanks Mom And Dad.
Got my first computer chops on a hand-me-down VIC-20 when my brother got a C64. Loved my VIC-20, and just picked one up about six months ago.
yeah rebought one as well mad nostalgia
Great video. That blue and white chess game reminds me of a very similar one I had on cartridge for my Commodore 64.
I think that was Sargon II... which makes sense, because Sargon III was on the C64. Probably the next evolution of that game! :-)
I can't complain about the list since it's totally subjecctive even if my top ten differs a fair bit. My faves in no particular order:
- Tutankham
- Lode Runner
- Demon Attack
- Sword of Fargoal
- Galaxian
- Sargon 2
- Pole Position
- Gorf
- Pharaoh's Curse
- Ultima: Escape from Mount Drash
Such a brilliant computer. 40+ years and I'm still loving it.
When I was about 7 years old in 1985, I had Gorf, Cosmic Cruncher, Raid On Fort Knox, Poker, Blackjack, Pipes, Radar Ratrace, Omega Race, Tooth Invaders, Jupiter Lander, Donkey Kong, and some others that I can't remember off the top of my head.
The joystick I used had a rubber ball end that had toothmarks from my cat, Dusty. He liked it so I just let him chew on it and it was all good lol he was a great kitty
Great video for a great machine
I've always thought it was interesting to see the variance in quality of VIC-20 games. Some games (Vic Invaders, Omega Race) are amazingly good arcade ports considering the system's limited hardware, and then you've got Q*bert - that one is painful to see.
Yeah, while people were still finding their way and literally everyone was new and just starting to develop basic game mechanics the variance in quality is pronounced. That's why I laugh when people claim there's over 10k games for c64. There might be 10k unique pieces of software but the overwhelming majority are ultra rough "my first coding experience" experiments that are many times unfinished our broken with bugs. Once you filter out all the amateur shovel ware you end up at a number a lot closer to 500 than 10000.
Bear in mind that a lot of these titles were cartridges, meaning the software code doesn't eat into the VIC's limited stock RAM at all. And the stock 5.5K of RAM is actually a lot of RAM compared to consoles of the time. For example, the Intellivision only had 1K of RAM, and even the much later NES would only have 4K of RAM.
Lode Runner, Shamus, Cosmic Cruncher, Raid On Fort Knox, Radar Rat Race, Vic Avengers and Omega Race are some of my favorite VIC-20 games.
@@IsaacKuo A stock VIC-20 had a mere 3,583 bytes (not K!) of available RAM once booted. I miss those days.
I liked Omega Race on the VIC-20. People say the Atari 2600 version wasn't very good.
I loved that little machine. It was the second computer I had gotten. The first was the Tmex Sinclair 1000. It was a nice intro into computers but got frustrating real fast with the membrane keyboard and intermittent crashes while typing in long programs. The Vic-20 was a breath of fresh air with color, sound, and a real keyboard. That and really launched me into computers. I was very much into electronics at the time and dove into interfacing my VIC into some of my breadboard digital projects for control and monitoring. Started out using the parallel port, but later learned to make use of the expansion/cartridge port after building my own "real world" interfaces.
Ah, the days of computer discovery in my youth.
My next and all time favorite computer was the Commodore 64. But the VIC-20 will always have a special place in my heart. I loved the games, but played mostly on the C64.
I still have my original VIC, along with the TS 1000 and a few C64s. Also a C16 and C128. Even a couple of SX-64's I am restoring.
I loved the games, but played mostly on the C64. Even ran a BBS for a time on the C64s.
A great watch that, Think i got my Vic 20 late in 85 after having the brilliant Spekky 48k since 82 which actually ruled the 80s for home gaming for me,
Same story for me, but replace the Spekky with the C64 for me. :-) I still love my memories with that Vic-20, though.
My very first computer and I adored it. First game I ever played on it was a cartridge version of Adventureland. Boy, was I hooked. I was so proud of myself when I finally finished it. For fun, I played that game again only maybe five years back and I was stunned that I remembered most all of the puzzles and things to accomplish to finish the game. That game really stuck in my head! lol I got the 16K expansion cart and that really opened things up for me. I have great memories of Gorf, Choplifter... and Shamus... one that wasn't mentioned on this list. Great little game. :-)
Thank you for the video. About 5 of these would be in my top 20 as well. I still have my original Vic-20 from about 1982 and a pretty huge collection of games. Games not on this list that I like more than some are Froggee, Vic-21 Blackjack, Artillery Duel, Galaxian, and one that my friends and I played a ton... Dodgecars. For this one, I remember three of us in the same room with three Vic-20s and 3 TVs. A great memory.
Those top arcade games are definitely a must have for it.
Radar Ratrace.... 'Three Blind Mice' will be forever burned into my brain thanks to this game.
Mostly agree with the list. One game not mentioned was Jungle Hunt. Good port of the arcade game.
Absolutely agree on Jungle Hunt. Not only is it a great game but the Vic-20 port is one of the best ports.
I’m undergoing extensive trauma therapy after taking a second look at the Jelly Monsters game cover
It's absolutely horrific! When I was making this video I couldn't stop starring at it, I just couldn't fathom how it came about!
Poor illustrator who couldn't work out what to do, probably @@TheLairdsLair
#17 The picture on the cartridge was cool and well, we get phasers anyway we could back then.
The games I remember from my VIC 20 were Gorf, Omega Race, Demon Attack, Atlantis, Lunar Leepers, and The Count (and several other Scott Adams text games).
I remember the VIC-20, it was my first computer from either Christmas 1981 or 1982. Don't remember having any games on cassette tape just on cartridges. I did have Radar Rat Race and space invaders game Star Battle and those were the two I probably played the most. The only other one I can remember is Mole Attack.
My first computer was the vic 20, a newsagent was getting rid of them for $50 AUD at the time, I think they were getting the old stock out in time for the incoming c64. I never had a tape drive for it so I kept typing in a program from the manual or a magazine or something each time I wanted to play it! Glad when I moved onto the c64 though, it was a massive upgrade.
What a great video. I wish I had the words to describe how desperately I wanted one of these back when I was a kid. I would see them on display (in department stores, haha), running something fascinating, but alas, it was not meant to be.
Loved your video, and I see that it really was as amazing as I thought it was as a little kid, especially when framed in the context of when it was released. And, let's face it, as a fan of Star Trek, my sadness (at not having one) was amplified considerably.
Suprised my all time fave game Parker bros tutankhamun was only #15 truly top ten material also no Frogger I thought again Parker bros did an awesome conversion .great work lots of memories had no idea the Vic20 had a star trek game
I love how the Jelly Monsters box art has zero hints that the game is a Pac-Man clone.
I noted that, as well! lol Sneaky, sneaky! ;-)
Happy to see some Scott Adams adventures there 🧡 But I really miss Moon Patrol 🥹 Great Video - cheers!
An older cousin of mine had a VIC-20 when I was little and I remember playing Clowns and Seawolf on it, surprised neither made this list.
I missed getting Circus Atari on my 2600/VCS, though I played it another kids' home, so got Clowns for the VIC-20, which might not have been as good, but provided some entertainment.
Ah Gorf, best cart game I had on the old Vic, lost count of how long I spent on that one as it was always fun to go back to
I finally got around to getting Gorf for the Atari a few years ago, but I played Gorf on the VIC-20 in the 1980s (as well as a few times at the arcade).
Glad to see Radar Ratrace made the list, that was my favorite on the system.
7:15 All I can hear is the ZX Spectrum Knightlore tune, I wonder which came first?
I never owned a Vic20 but I had a few games for that system due to trades and whatnot, but some of them would run on my C64 as well.
Surprised not to see demon attack on this list, to this day vic 20 had the best version.
Only one person voted for Demon Attack, I really expected that and Atlantis to get more votes.
Makes me wish I had more experience with computers in the early-mid 80's. Used Apple ii'sinschool a bit mostly remembere playing Conan on it. My first PC was a Leading Edge 386, with the printer it was about $2500, must have been the early 90's.
Got a Vic-20 for my 12th birthday which cost my mum $500 NZD - not cheap. I spent 14 hours on it on the first day but had no tape player so once the power went off that was it (got one eventually). Highlight for me was learning machine code and programming a few games with a mix of basic and machine code with joystick and sound. A Space Invader clone was my peak effort. Good times back in the day.
Played a TON of Omega Race! My faves were that, GORF, Cosmic Cruncher, Tooth Invaders, Gortek and the Microchips (an educational game) and weirdly enough, Hangman.
Is it practical to actually buy a Vic-20 these days to play it? I looked some up online but tested and working ones seem few and far between. I’d love to own one. The spider and snake games looked so neat for the time period.
Old Commodore hardware does seem more prone to faults than rival machines, I never managed to find a VIC at a good price.
We had a vic 20 for a couple years (I think it was borrowed from someone). I remember Radar Rat Race and Omega Race fondly. Glad to see them on the list :-)
The only other Vic 20 game I remember was tooth Invaders. I loved that one too at the time but it may not have aged so well. Would need to try it again to know for sure
Radar Rat Race was the first cartridge my father got for me for that system. I also enjoyed Omega Race. I think I got tired of playing Atari, and got games for this system instead, like Clowns, Pole Position and Gorf.
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ahhh not the Popcorn Song again nooooooo
Great Nostalgia
However I would like to point out that the Better Vic20 games have appeared in the last 6-7 years.
Cheese and Onion, Escape 2020, Pentagorat, Monaco GP. etc.
As I said in reply to a couple of other people, Cheese & Onion actually got quite a few votes, but not quite enough to make the Top 20.
But it doesn't matter how good the homebrew games are, nostalgia always wins out in these polls.
I suspect some of my top games now would be quite different from my list back in the 80's... for example, I recall loving Garden Wars as a child, but seeing footage of the game now, the sheer amount of activity on the screen is brain melting!
Gorf was definitely one that held up though!
I dont remember jelly monsters, but i do remember a commodore game called cosmic cruncher. That was also a pacman clone
That got a few votes too and made the longer top 40 video.
The iOS version of Gridrunner is unbelievable. I wish they would reissue it.
I loved my Vic 20. You had to use your imagination and I certainly did. As a kid, I played the games Wacky Waiters, Scramble, Jackpot and Radar Rat Race. When we eventually upgraded to the C64 and played the games Scramble and Jackpot I remember being disappointed as the graphics on the C64 were jerky and not as smooth as I thought they were on the Vic20. I then went back and played them on the Vic 20 only to find they were jerky, I was sure the versions I had were not the same as when I was younger so I searched high and low for the games that I thought I remembered, but they were the games I remembered, it's just my imagination filled in the details for me and as I grew older that magical imagination stopped working. Initially, I was also disappointed with the sound of the C64 because I could make music on the Vic20 much more easily (Even though it was out of tune, Radar Rat Race for example) it was easy to program music in basic. It was only later when my brain expanded that I came to appreciate the C64 with its ADSR and filters which were too complicated for the younger me. Anyway, the Vic20 is still an amazing machine that deserves more recognition than it does, it's just overshadowed by the mighty C64.
I think I had Scramble, but it was on tape, not cassette and took awhile to load. It was fairly boring, so after a couple plays I'd move on to another game or project.
I had a VIC20 with Radar Rat Race and like 10 text adventures, all on cartridge. No idea where I might find games. So it was disappointing for that reason.
As a UK VIC owner, my list would look quite different. I'd have Gorf, Jetpac and Blitz, but also titles like The Perils of Willy, Skyhawk, Bonzo, Star Battle, Raid on Fort Knox, Arcadia, Metagalatic Llamas Battle at the Edge of Time and Psycho Shopper.
Yeah, surprised that Perils of Willy wasn't in there
The Vic was my first computer. It is hard to imagine a worse business computer than the VIC. The ONLY thing the vic had going for it, even for a gaming computer was it was cheap. I literally saved my allowance and lawn mowing to buy it because it was under 100 Dollars.
The VIC was just one long series of compromises that leads to a whole that is not very good. No hardware scrolling. No hardware sprites. 5k of RAM. Extremely low resolution screen. I think even the atari 2600 has a higher horizontal resolution. The 22 character text mode is only 176 pixels wide. Using multicolor characters cuts that in 1/2.
The retro groups should try some of the newer Vic20 games. For an all time list, these are all 40 years old.
Example: Cheese and Onion is a smooth scrolling platformer.
I said in reply to another comment, Cheese & Onion actually got a lot of votes and only just missed out on the top 20. But with polls like this nostalgia ALWAYS wins out.
I was 11 years old when I got my first computer in early 1982. Played lots of games and still play some old and new VIC20 games on emulation... #19 - Never heard of. # 18 - Never Heard of. #17 - Never heard of. #16 - Never heard of. #15 - Never heard of... WTF? I am in an alternate universe? #14 - Finally, I game I actually played! #13 nope, Text adventure? Who made this list?
As the video says, it was voted for by people in the retro gaming community, over 300 of them to be exact.
I want to change my votes after watching this...
Can't believe I forgot to include any of the Scott Adams adventures!!! I loved those!!! ;-)
Of course, my top 5 changes weekly anyways depending on what I've seen/played recently... ;-)
I had three of those, but probably should have gotten another couple.
There was a sking one that I spent hours on as well
Demon Attack and Abductor were/are my favourite
Demon Attack was great, actually nice graphics and variety. I had Lunar Leaper, kind of repetitive, but the graphics were pretty good.
Interesting video. Not sure I've learned anything vital but interesting.
I read the title. Then you said top VIC-20 games of all time, i engaged thought... and then really thought... followed by tumbleweed. Realised i know very little about the VIC-20's games. I remember using one a few times in computer studies at school, used mainly PETS, the sole C64 was hogged. BBC Micro replaced them all eventually.
Interesting words used in the Shatner advert. Did he say best or most exciting computer of the 80's, words to that effect? Start of the wrong couple of decades to claim that. Understandable as the 70's were a bit slow, slow and brown, with beige for computers.
Interesting the term games console had not yet reared it's head, back then they were apparently just called games. They were pretty much locked in with what they had, no internet, no patches nor updates. Each machine a veritable Pong multiverse.
His claim is nonsense, the Texas Instruments TI-99 and Atari 8-bit both came out in 1979 and were much more capable, especially the Atari which wasn't bettered for years.
VIC-20 was my first ever computer and the step to my career in computing. When friends had Spectrums I wanted something with a real keyboard as I wanted to program. My favorite games were Gorf, Cosmic Cruncher, Perils of Willy, Sargon II and of course Blitz.
Surprised Perils of Willy didn't make the Top 20.
I liked Gorf at the arcade, so got it for my VIC-20.
great video all best for 2024
Happy new year to you too!
Both the official Galaxians port and Star Battle rip off are great games that deserve to be on the list.
I remember playing Blitz on my mate's VIC 20 but it was not an original, it was a copy of the 1977 Atari arcade game Canyon Bomber
It has similarities, but I wouldn't call it a clone as they play quite different. For a start Blitz is a single player game and you can't crash in Canyon Bomber.
True, but definitely heavily influenced by Canyon Bomber. @@TheLairdsLair
UNderstand the methodology.. but surprised.. a) Jetpac isn't in the Top3 - it's the best looking game on the platform by miles b) Matrix didn't make it. 100% approve of Omega Race tho :)
And Blitz... helped that it was a pack-in game.. but I played it for hours and hours :)
Matrix only just missed out on the top 20 by like 2 points.
Many games wount run, you get syntax error, in one format its prg can they be played on emulator? Thanks
You need to download a program called PRG Starter, you can link it with VICE and it automatically sets up the ROM/RAM requirements for you, it's brilliant!
@@TheLairdsLair Thank you recommendation, i have had the HYPERPSIN set of VIC-20 there are some games in PRG and always ends with SYNTAX ERROR
I wil try PRG Starter, thanks helping me out!
I REALY LOVE MY C64 ❤❤❤ FOREVER ❤❤❤
Number one and two are correct - but I'd switch them around. Gorf was a blast on the system. I'm surprised with your PacMan clone pick when Cosmic Cruncher was such a solid title.
I didn't pick them, as outlined in the video, these rankings are based on the votes of over 300 people in the retro gaming community.
@@TheLairdsLair Ugh, you warned us of that at the start of the clip too.
it should have come with 8 KB RAM, meaning it would have 6.5K free, almost double of the 3.5K.
So glad you did not put Ms. Pacman on that list. Though it looked better than any PacMac game on home consoles, the playability was horrendous. It was super slow too. Everything moved a fraction of the speed of the game in the arcade. I felt so ripped off when i purchased the game for my VIC-20 back in '83 (or '84?). Gorf was my favorite but I was a bit disappointed to discover upon the first play that it did not have the Galaxian screen. Big bummer. I still remember going back to the box and reading front and back to notice that indeed Galaxian were not mentioned anywhere. Bummer. Later and thanks!
Nobody voted for Ms. Pac-Man at all, I didn't choose what went in, it was purely based on voting.
None of the home versions of Gorf had the Galaxian level due to copyright reasons.
@@TheLairdsLair Yep about Galaxians --but my teenage self back then sure didn't know that and felt ripped off at the time. Still, Gorf would have been my personal favorite vote.
No vicross 😢.
A nice port of crossroads on the vic.
Never seen a c16 or vic20 in my life. Only 128 and 64.
Me neither.
I agree with the list except for Blitz.. That game was crap! All you did was time when to hit the fire button. I would swap it out for Bomber which was an amazing Scramble clone (which I thought actually looked better than Scramble)
Bonzo . loved that
Some of the games on your list were good but a few were stinkers (no offense). Actually the best games were created in the last few years. They pushed the hardware to the max and will blow you away. Check out "Chuckie and Egg", "Prince of Persia", "Get more Diamonds", "Cheese & Onion", etc.
No offense taken because I didn't choose these games! As the intro states, these games were voted for by around 500 people in the retro gaming community.
Prince of Persia was released after this video was made, but Cheese & Onion did make the top 40 and only just missed out on the top 20.
Very US-biased list here. Not your fault, most of the people on the forums will be Yanks, but I have to say as a British VIC owner back in the day I don't recognise the majority of these...
I think the VIC-20 was more popular in the USA than anywhere else, though. It's not like the C64 where the center of gravity of the C64 enthusiast community is basically the UK. (So much so that people tend to not realize how big the C64 was in the USA.)
Curious to know what your top 20 picks are Jason.
That's funny. I'm from the US and looking at this list I thought it was UK-biased. LOL.
It was mostly Americans that voted, but there were some Brits and Italians too. Actually there are probably more British VIC games in the back half of the Top 40.
Most Americans that I know that still concern themselves with retro-related things are not interested in any way with the Vic - which is sad. That said, the list of games was great IMO. All very impressive tittles that are fun to play today. I would be curious if there are strong British favourites that are hidden gems to Americans and the rest of the world.@@TheLairdsLair
My first computer was the Vic20 but it was a terrible machine with rubbish games. My parents bought me one from a pile of on sale VICS sold from 'What Every Woman Wants' store in early eighties for £70. Even back then it was terrible. Computing began for me once I sold my Vic20 and I got a Commodore 64 - a real computer.
I think the text games should have been left out and some modern games like pentogorat, cheese & onion, and planet X1 should have been included.
I can't even imagine the level of disappointment if someone invited me over to use their new vic20 computer that I'd seen advertised has having cool arcade games, only to have them plop on a humdrum text adventures.
"Wtf is this? I thought you said you had video games but this is just a digital version of one of those dumb choose your own adventure books. I can have this experience without a computer, where's the video games you promised!?!?!
I don't get to decide what games should and shouldn't be left out, it's what the community voted for.
You'll be pleased to hear Cheese & Onion only just missed out on the Top 20 and is in the wider Top 40 video.
@@TheLairdsLair looking forward to it. Thanks for the content I never get tired of hearing different takes and discussions on all these systems and games.
I actually liked that the text adventures were included. To me (and this is only my personal taste), they are the only games I would play on this machine. On the Amiga I played all sorts of games, including text adventures, but on the Amiga those were the minority. Not meaning the criticize or disrespect nobody, it just my personal taste 😊
I don't think a list of best games for the VIC-20 would be complete without Scott Adams text adventure games. I got three: Adventureland was first, then Pirate Cove which was an easy win, then Voodoo Castle which took a little time. I heard Adventure for Atari was based on a text adventure game, Colossal Cave, but why didn't they convert some more to video action-adventure if it was successful?
I don't think I ever invited anyone over to play games on the VIC-20. It had only one joystick port so it was just one-player. I did play Atari 2600 games at other kids' homes, but only a few were two-player games as the one-player game became the thing in the 1980s.
Nice video. I'm not familiar with his system, but some of those games look great. Excellent port of not space invaders.
Thanks!
Winter Games/Events. Kingsoft.