What Happened to my Surface Pro?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- So my Surface Pro 8 video has like 80,000 views now which is wild! I get a lot of comments asking if I'm still using it and how it's holding up. This video is the answer to those comments!
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I mostly use my old surface pro 6 for media consumption, research and school work but recently started working in IT and risk management, so I’ve been looking to upgrade. I find this video extremely helpful because I’ve been on the fence. No bias, no fluff. Real world experience. Thanks for this Chief 🙏🏾
I'm glad it helped! thanks for watching!
Best ever, best ever, best ever, best ever, I sold it.
🤣🤣🤣
This is legit the first thing I thought too. 😂
I had been a Mac guy for years. Microsoft is slowly but surely building decent ecosystem...especially for gaming. Having Gamepass Ultimate access on my PC, Xbox, tablet and phone is something else.
I've always wanted to move to all in one device (like the Surface Pro) but I just know I'll end up getting frustrated at the limitations. I appreciate hearing from someone who actually uses these devices not just reviews them without actually working on them.
Thanks for watching! Agreed that msft has really stepped up with gaming in the last few years
I watched both videos. This makes me understand and appreciate more how different the shopping mentality of people from the US and other areas in the world compare to the rest. It's probably good for the economy to change PCs two times a year. It's all cool. But the gap between my part of the world is making me jalouse. Unfortunately, I tend to buy a PC or tablet or a phone for at least 5 years of use. And stay out of experimenting with products just to be on the safe side.
I will say I’m generally an outlier in the US as well. Most of my friends and people I know keep their computers for a very long time
I think the main reason you were able to replace your surface pro is because you don't utilize it's main feature that makes it unique - the tablet / stylus component!
Yep!
Started watching your channel today because the video about selling your hardware gear was recommended to me.
Then the iPad, MacBook and Surface came en went as being good alternatives. Meanwhile I still see videos on hardware gear.
I guess I am thankful for showing the shortcomings of the different solutions and not making me make the same mistakes
It's worth noting I really love trying new stuff so I don't feel like they were mistakes. But I do think the "no dawless gear" and "only dawless" mindsets will always hold people back. It's best to just try things and see what works for you. I have settled on a bit of a hybrid approach and it's really nice for me
If Microsoft had spent time building out the Surface Pro line with really good 'tablet' touch functionality it wouldn't be close against Apple. Something similar to Dex Mode for a Surface. When you have keyboard it's running full Microsoft and when you detach it goes into a type of Microsoft Tablet OS or something.
Agreed, same issue they’re having with gaming handhelds right now. They could be absolutely dominant if they weren’t so distracted by chat gpt
Do you need the aux on the surface pro to do music production? The surface pro 9 doesn’t have one
the surface pro 9 doesn't come with aux??? Do you need it for your daw??
when you said specialized devices. i felt poor hehehe
aw man, i've definitely been there. i will say you don't have to get a bunch of expensive things. it may be better to have a cheap android tablet and a cheap but good macbook or windows machine vs just the surface depending on what you want to compromise on
I haven’t had an apple computer in like 23 years but if I was to get a laptop again I’d probably get a MacBook Pro. I have a windows desktop and steamdeck (plus my portable synths) so my needs are met with both video games and music production
Yeah if you don't need a portable pc besides the Deck, you're all set with that combo!
@@DylanParisMusic speaking of which, have you dived into the world of DAWs on the steam deck? I’ve been thinking about it myself but not a lot of talk about it.
@@ChumpyDumps Not at all honestly. Part of focusing on specialized devices for me is letting things like the deck just be for gaming and using my pc for music along with my grooveboxes.
I'm sure folks are doing cool stuff with it though! would be wild to see how many people are running with the deck as their only computer
Here is the thing, I can get the Surface pro 8 now at under $700 with i5, 8gb ram and 128gb ssd, I want a computer that can do all the basic level stuff, documents/presentations/media consumption comfortably while leaving performance headroom for things like 1080p video editing and photo editing and, this is extremely important, I want the device to last Atleast 5 years, it does not need to be a monster performer for the next 5 years, but it has to be able to do all the basic work, without breaking down And keep decent battery life through this time, like 4-6 hrs on a single change towards the end of its life would be great. Should I get the base model (without keyboard $700)?
I’d say an m1 MacBook Air will be a better bet for you especially for the battery life
@@DylanParisMusic wow, thanks for sharing your opinion, I wasn't expecting I would get a reply for the content creator themselves, but seems I got lucky, thanks again.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience! My channel doesn’t exist without people watching and engaging 🙏😎
Man I had the same thought comparing the PS5 vs Nintendo Switch, the PS5 rendered it obsolete!!! 😁
yeah the power difference between the current gen and the switch is brutal, first party games are still great but other than those I play everything else on other platforms
lol totally negativating your first video
Sadly true, minds do change over time and i always keep it honest on this channel
I got my steam deck! Best ever!! Then I sold it lol
🤣 fair enough!
I got a surface pro 9 and I love it. i use it for work, the software I use can only be used with Windows and the touch screen with the pen is perfect for signing documents with clients and I also use it for video editing and it's amazing. Meets everything I need.
That’s awesome!
@@DylanParisMusic Dylan I was able to get my hands on the i7 and 16gb that’s good enough for editing correct? I won’t have any glitching issues or slowing down etc!??
@@defining_moments That honestly depends on what type of editing you're doing, what type of footage you're editing, and how many simultaneous layers of footage you're editing. As well as what app you're using. The surface doesn't have a dedicated GPU so you lose out on CUDA core rendering but the modern i7 processors can usually handle a stream or two of 4k at half res in a normal NLE.
@@DylanParisMusic using da Vinci for normal you tube editing videos that I’m trying to create! nothing intense. Or heavy editing. Trying to a TH-camr lol and post videos like you
Wasnt being releases First in the USA today? You already have one SP9?????
i had a razer blade 14 and 17 both with 3080 ti it was strong with its 14 core and dang did it run well and was portable.
I have an original surface laptop, and it’s battery just completely died so it is pretty much unusable for me (only works when plugged in but I don’t intend to use it without a working battery). I have a pretty powerful PC (3080 Ti, 11600k, 64GB ram, etc) and a steam deck among other things.
But I need a portable device I can use around the house to do some web surfing, running some apps, and especially to show guides when gaming on my steam deck (or any other portable gaming device I own) or my main TV/PC/Consoles.
So now I’m stuck between getting a pro 8 or surface laptop 4.
for your desktop gaming you could consider a 4k uhd alienware x17 or an area 51m(upgradeable cpu and gpu[pretty cool check it out])
Hey!
Your old video helped me make the decision, and I bought a secondhand Surface Pro 5 this week. For reference I am downgrading from a MacBook Pro M1 16GB 256GB SSD.
I want to run my business (engine tuning) and make music on one device, which would limit me using teamviewer from my iPad to the windows laptop that I previously owned.
I make simple trap beats, and although I couldn't import my own VST it didn't stop me from importing the individual sounds.
I used the internal speakers and keyboard to make my first beat on the Surface Pro 5 and it worked! Admittedly the audio quality over headphones isn't as good as the MacBook. An audio interface should help, and I'll probably get a little Rode AI Micro - I don't need the best best quality at my level.
One thing I learned this morning is the Surface Pro doesn't even have a fan 👀. Microsoft created the MacBook Air before it was invented 😮
I cannot believe I can make music on something without a fan. I'll make tomorrow's beat on it as well to make sure it's good.
I could potentially sell the MacBook if tomorrow goes well..
1429€ MacBook (last year) vs 400€ secondhand Surface Pro
Both do the same thing.
If you are on a budget. I advise the Microsoft models - it was designed to be carried. It is more comfortable in my hand.
Sorry for the monologue I love all of you ❤
Glad to hear it’s working for you!
surface pro 9 with 32gb and its 10core cpu shouldnt lag but im still exploring it.
surface pro 8 with 32gb gets i7 with 96 execution cores so it should game as good as steamdeck
mac gaming with emulation and translation layer can actually run windows games people could play gta5 pretty crazy
Heh. It is frustrating to hear that most pros that you mentioned in the first video are not important anymore:)
That's fine that we change opinions, but with all said, I am not sure if you really used Surface for the first video. Performance and battery life with weird (for tablet) UI are obviously noticeable since day two or so.
Anyway, thanks for both videos!
This is very funny. Love the insinuation that I didn’t use the device for the first video. People change and their needs change. The more my life changed and the more I used the surface pro the more I realized it want the right fit for me
@DylanParisMusic thanks for your reply! I've been using Surface Pro8 for almost a year and have my own subjective opinion.
I still love the 2 in 1 feature, but most of the rest is mild.
My main concern is that Windows is not ready for such devices.
Seriously, how can you compare the 16Gb RAM Windows machine in 2022 with anything else for editing and using as only one device? 16 Gb IMHO may be enough only for basic tasks...
I love both of your videos and have already subscribed to your channel.
But the first video created a bit false opinion. Too bad that it was so popular ;))
I may only speculate that the first part was created just around release date, so it was intended to be positive with fewer observations for downsides.
I appreciate the kind words and the sub! I will say there really wasn’t an intention element both of the videos are honest they just paint a picture of different parts of the user cycle. I really was that optimistic about the surface pro and it really did handle video editing and music production, I just found myself using the gaming desktop more and realizing I didn’t need the surface
I bought my surface pro 8 for 17k, it's keyboard stopped working for no reason. Later on I realized it's a manufacturing defect that causes some connector in the keyboard to break since the keyboard is very thin and you can move it in various positions. I ended up selling my surface pro with no keyboard for 7k and bought a MacBook pro.
If you were saying the problem is only battery life, then Surface Pro is way better for me, because I`m relying on Windows for everything.
I can use the Surface Pro as a substitute for my Wacom Cintiq.
There is a `Technical factor` why I must choose Surface Pro, whatever good Apple device is. (lol).
You can use teamviewer remote your pc using surface pro 8
It’s the perfect computer, but only works as a concept.
I think surface line is more for professionals like engineers, mathematicians, teachers, doctors.
Apple products are more for vloggers, media, video editing, and so forth.
I could definitely see that, feels like a missed opportunity to not lean heavier into that market for msft but I think that's accurate
This is the truth and I think both Microsoft and Apple would agree. The one perk the surface really does have is it's an all in one device that would accomplish everything for most people.
i'm working on getting my steam deck sorted out for daw/vst hosting. I believe it's going to be a game changer. So much so that I got 2 of them. So much for dedicated devices (though i'm leaving one stock dedicated for gaming, the other dedicated for music). I just want an uber-small device for vst hosting and I think this is it.
That sounds rad!
So great reviews of these devices and i truly agree with you that we need to see what do we really use of a device instead of just conceiving what we might do on it.😂
Thanks for watching!
Sounds like you just got into gaming. Could you explain more in depth the issues with music production?
It mostly came down to how much worse it performed especially on battery than something like my desktop. Having access to that level of power (the desktop) made using the surface for music feel like a vanity project
Im thinking in getting a Surface as a backup/second pc/travel thingy xd
I'm in love with my gaming PC and I have a Tab S7 that's nice to consume media but horrible to use as a work station on-the-go.
Maybe I'll get a refurbished Surface 7 Pro just to test it, not going all in as u did.
Thanks for the review.
I got a surface pro X for the same reasons, it’s much lighter, if you don’t need too much power in it for video editing and stuff. Battery is alright too.
you can do everything with surface tablets. i love this tablet so much.this is a perfect device for me. this is funny when you said i have my desktop and i dont love surface. because this is nothing to do with what this tablet can do. they build for portability so this is why people buy these tablets.this is like i said steam deck is useless because i have strong pc and i can play my games a lot better than steam deck. 😄
I think I outlined pretty well in this video that I didn’t find the probability worth the trade off but I do agree if portability AND a single device are your main priorities then a surface is great
Thanks for honest upload. I watched the other surface pro posts also. I’m still choosing between an iPad and maybe a surface pro 9 as a main driver (I can make it work on a tablet). But may consider a desktop and keeping my old iPad Pro as an option!
How did you choose? Currently deciding between ipad pro and Microsoft surface pro. Need it for uni, video editing and digital drawing.
Battery life on the iPad may make it a better option for school unless you need a windows specific app
@@angelinabnd respect everyone’s views but I chose a SP9. I think for most that would be best as a student as you get the full windows apps.
I have had a lot of Apple devices and also I’m lucky enough to have a half broken 2018 iPad Pro that still gets the job done.
If I could only have one device it would be an SP9 and I’ve been really happy with it. I only have 8GB of RAM in it but I’m a data man and it seems to get through one note, inking, excel spreadsheets PowerPoint and Power Bi (data reporting tool) absolutely fine.
I bought my wife 2 years ago a £2k MacBook Pro and she tutors as a profession. Interestingly she prefers the SP9 which was half the price for her work with students.
I’ve been buying macs since 2005 and will again, they’re great computers. But annoyingly I do loads of data work and prefer the Surface Pro for my corporate work, macs more for hobbies.
What I would say is if you can afford I think an iPad Pro or Air complements well. As I still prefer them for photo work. They’re just so fast and accessible. So if you can afford get both. If only one for me Surface Pro is a clear winner. I can’t compromise on my office apps.
Sorry for the long response!…
Ps. A good example for me where things break down when using iPad as a primary machine is a simple job like embedding an email within your email to someone. On a desktop system this is easy but on an iPad not so straightforward. It’s annoying having that kind of hassle when you spent laptop / desktop money on a device.
My surface Pro 8 is the worst is loses battery while charging and encounters errors nearly every day
Brutal :((
If you fall youtubers thell convince gou to buy every tech product released. 😅
Gotta be careful and have independent thought when watching other people’s opinions for sure!
I don't think we're going to see a Microsoft change to Arm for a long time.
The surfaces are always going to be behind portable Apple devices because of that. But they just don't have the grunt for workstation tasks
Curiously they merged the surface pro x into the 9 with an ARM option the day after I filmed this haha. Still a baby step but interesting
Insane how closely our journeys align lol
Who woulda thought
Thank you thank you thank you for the comment about being in a privileged position to obtain specialized equipment, and how yes the surface pro 8 can do all of the things needed for a student or work. Most bloggers I have noticed have a tendency that some of us just can’t afford the best and newest devices, especially attending school in one of the most expensive cities in America. Do thank you. Do you recommend the 8 or 10?
I have a Samsung Windows tablet with the M3 CPU, but I don’t use it much. I’m going away from the tablet format for Windows. I’d love to buy a Surface Pro but I probably won’t use it.
I have 3 ipads of different sizes for consuming media. The ipad mini 6 I use on public transport.
I use the keyboard for gaming on the PC, I tried to use the controller but it’s going to take time to get used to it.
what do you think about Asus ROG Zephyrus z13? Its a powerful tablet, with external GPU option and its portable.
If you want a tablet that can be a gaming machine it seems like the only real option on the market thanks to the proprietary connector they use for the external GPU
at this point you schould have just gotten a AMD advantage Gaming laptop. You would have good performance off power and a gaming system on power. instead you now have 3 different systems that could have been replaced with one gaming laptop.
No gaming laptop comes close to my desktop, and you can’t handheld play a laptop. The MacBook is probably overkill though
If i were you i'd still have the surface instead of selling it for that casual netflix/youtube watching and sometimes you can work on stuff on your monitor with the pc keyboard and mouse
As soon as I’m at my monitor though I have my desktop and it destroys every other computer I’ve ever used
Students would really be golden with a MacBook Air 2021 and up
agreed
This is my kind of video: A tour de Tourette, if you will; on all things that interest me. One of the reasons that I (and imagine others as well) feel compelled to watch your channel is that you have a similar push to try the "new and shiny" thing. I know I do. I have the bad habit of learning something to only 10-15% of its capability .... (I'm looking at you BeatMaker 3, AUM, Reason 10 et al) and without realizing that the other 85% of my under researched information may hold the answers I want, I jump into the next tier of interest (I'm looking at my desk: Maschine Mikro Mk3, MPC Studio, Arturia KeyStep 37). I wonder if there is a correctable common-thread to all this. Why can't I just have kept at BM3 on my 2018 iPad pro for a few months and really try to exhaust its capabilities before I sadly moved on under the guise of "well it's just not my workflow". Mind you, I'm 62 years young, so not bound by the excuse of being of a younger generation whose attention span rivals that of a gnat. I have a modicum of focus strength and am not bewildered by the information fire-hose coming at me from my smart devices. I do manage my notifications quite well. But I digress: I really do wonder if our shared habit of device-hopping is rooted more with impatience with letting the process play out .... or if (in your case, at least) the need to move the needle with new material compels us to look for an excuse to hit the eject button on the F-14 now that the F-35 Raptor is available ...
For me it's two fold. 1. I love novelty and trying new workflows to strengthen my core knowledge base. 2. I run a youtube channel and variety is key to growth.
You seem to be a very confused man when it comes to gear, BUT I love your videos because you cover so many pieces of equipment, I can't wait to see when you finally settle down to the perfect combination of stuff 😁
It’ll never happen but I appreciate you being here for the ride 🤣🤣🙏
Erm. You can run the SP in performance mode whilst on battery. Just wondering whether you set that?
I did but it still throttles due to heat
@@DylanParisMusicyou can disable the Intel thermal throttling.
I cnt believe this bro daaam
Sorry homie :((
Have you tried asus zenbook duo oled？
I haven’t but it looks awesome!
or get a surface pro and an egpu.
The data loss over thunderbolt leads to really diminished returns when using an egpu with the surface pro
@@DylanParisMusic but it’s kind of having the best of both worlds. The eGPU plays games at decent frame rates, helps with video/photo editing, rendering of 3d cad models, etc. I’m talking about the i7 sp8 also. You can do gaming, design, and still unplug it and take it on the go. Pretty solid combo.
I think it’s a neat idea but the amount of power you lose from the gpu over the transfer vs the amount you pay is why I went with a desktop instead. If I need I can always get a tablet to go along with it.
I’m with you on that tablet thing. I never used mine beyond some music making. It just became a paper weight. I’m sold mine and only use the MacBook Pro M1 ProChip. That’s the best purchase for me.
Yeah that MBP is a powerhouse, and also very portable
Apple's move to the M1 and M2 is a master stroke. They are still ahead of the game.
Agreed
How many hours of battery life on Surface Pro 7! Mine only got under 5 hours
great video!
Thanks man! 🙏🙏😎