Daniel, those hydraulic fittings are called ORB, short for O-Ring Boss. The threads are based on SAE or fine thread bolt sizes. Hello from north east Montana. 10 miles from the Canadian border.
Daniel. I have watched just about every Jubilee video there is and glean what I can from Yesterdays Tractors forum too, and not only congratulate you on the parade trophy, but you also should get an award for the clearest presentation on replacing the pump on a NAA. Everything about your install was just perfect. I watched your entire process and am intrigued. I've owned my 53 NAA Ser. 34312 for almost 12 years and some years ago contacted Windy Ridge Farm about that pump. I also have the Vane pump. I'm, for 11 years now, renovating my Jubilee. Everything is pretty much still apart. About two months ago I rebuilt the Lift cover Hydraulics. New O-ring,piston, and gaskets set. And cleaned out the inside of the reservoir. Borrowed a video by Dan Gingell & his dad. The surging is possibly caused by a bad O-ring on the unloader valve. My unloader valve did not have the o-ring, but early NAAs did. I also wondered about your interest in Mouser & Digi Key electronics as I also use them in my Ham Radio hobby. I hope you see this and we can connect more about our somewhat rare NAA tractors. I have many questions I'd like to ask. Lastly, there are ways to see what's happening with your hydraulics without removing the lift cover. You can remove either of the side covers to observe if oil is bypassing somewhere.
@@tnhomestead Fine business Daniel. Unfortunately for us there aren't near as many made as the 8N. There are several forums for these old tractors and many resources for parts. It looks like you made a good find and still 6Volt system too. The 6Volt will serve you well, Just keep battery posts and cable terminals clean and it will work well. You handled that pump change like a pro. Unless it's a very early model 53, the serial is on the LH bell housing behind the starter. You may have to remove some paint to see it. If there is nothing there, it will be on the upper LH forward side of the block. I'm anxious to get mine back together and maybe it will look as good as yours. Mine will remain retired like me. I use my 53 Ferguson TO30 on my small acreage. Nice music too.
@@williamokrasinski9840 The serial on mine is on the head, but need to get it cleaned up to find the numbers. I can tell they are there, but can only see a couple of them.
@@tnhomestead Sorry for my confusion. I thought I was communicating with Daniel who replaced his Hyd. Pump. So I'm still curious now about both you and Daniel's tractors. If it's an early NAA, the serial is on the block below the Exh. manifold above the generator. After serial number 22239, it on the flat behind the starter on the bell housing.
Also you may want to consider a rebuild option on one of the newer pumps. Here is a good how-to video on that: th-cam.com/video/ILaIk0D1_z4/w-d-xo.html
Very Informative, have you seen the new hyd adapter plate for the jubilee? so you can add remote hydraulics? i think that paired with the bigger pump would be GREAT!
I just bought a 1954 NAA. I got all my Tires holding air now. Next will be getting a 6 volt battery, adding antifreeze and water to the Radiator and changing fluids if it starts up right away. It sat in a barn for 7 years, but the previous owner drained the gas tank and carb, radiator and block. Do you think I should just get a carb kit and clean it up before starting it?
Good luck! I would try starting it as is to get going, and plan on a downstream carb service once you have the rest sorted. The carbs are really robust.
@@danielraible I have to get a plastic gas tank. The inside of the Tractors tank is nasty. So nasty it will not let fuel into the bowl. I have to remove the tank to clean it out. I liked to never figure out how to get the cowling off
Thanks! That is a dirt scoop. You can still get them new at places like Rural King or Tractor Supply, or get used ones from Craigslist. The operate like a trip bucket. When you set them down, you can pull a rope to undo a latch mechanism, then when you pick up the bucket it swings down and dumps the material out. Not as elegant as a proper front end loader, but once you get the hang of it they are very useful and the next best thing. With a bit of planning you can get a lot done, even excavating.
Hi I have a 53 Juiblee that I want to do the same conversion on because it leaks. The seller’s website is no longer working is there any other outfits that do the same type of conversion kits? Thank you. I have already tried changing out all the gaskets and o rings. Leak seems to be coming from manifold at the bottom once it’s been running for a few mins. I see no obvious cracks or any other damage.
Yes, unfortunately it seems the owner is ill right now, so currently not taking new orders. The real key to his kit was the adapter between the proofmeter housing and the new pump, if you could find someone to machine it: www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=908875 Also J&D Prodicutions, Inc. and WaltsTractors will rebuild old pumps. I would suggest contacting both to see if they would start offering a similar conversion package.
A good point. Since this was my first time working on a hydraulic system, I wanted to disassemble as little as possible. There are many ways of accomplishing this job.
Before I finish the video, I'm saying your surging is the lift correcting. Does it do it with no load on the 3 point? let's see if I am right. LOL Thanks for the video, well done.
Thanks, I don't see anything on their website explicitly calling out 800 series, but they do list 1000 series, so it might be possible. I would recommend giving them a call, perhaps it is just some parts differences in the kit.
Yeah better do something about it on my MF 2640 outside hy.pump no steering and another type of pump on the 9240 instead of that expensive gerotor type,thank you.
Hello sir, your tractor is interesting. Every 100 series tractor I have seen has the hydraulic lines inside the trans case. And a Manifold that bolts up to it and connects to the vane pump. Thats the way i mine is. I'd love to replace my original vickers vane pump, but not sure if its possible. Is there a kit available for my application. 1957 Ford 600 tractor. 134CID w/ vickers vane pump. Please advise. thanks!
Yes, if you go to the Windy Ridge Farm and Machine website you will see a kit option for the 600 series tractors, which have the cast manifold instead of individual hydraulic lines. Mine is an earlier model NAA, so is a bit different than yours.
For me, I wanted a modern-style pump with a fixed displacement to extend the longevity of the tractor. If you are concerned with originality it would probably be best to try to rebuild the vintage pump, assuming you can find parts and have the know-how. For me, I wanted to get the machine back into service with modern parts for dependability.
@@MrDdaland This is a good question, and I do not know. Windy Ridge mentioned they are developing a remote hydraulic kit, and I am VERY interested in that so I can run an actuated top link - so my hope is the pump could handle both that and the lift arms at the same time. If/when that kit is released I will certainly try it out and share the results.
Yes, unfortunately it seems the owner is ill right now, so currently not taking new orders. The real key to his kit was the adapter between the proofmeter housing and the new pump, if you could find someone to machine it: www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=908875 Also J&D Prodicutions, Inc. and WaltsTractors will rebuild old pumps. I would suggest contacting both to see if they would start offering a similar conversion package.
I'd say they move about the same with my heaviest implement, which is a 600 lb box scraper. The important thing is the tractor doesn't run through oil anymore.
On my 2000 Ford selectshift I was hooked to my boots are I'll pick you up when out and mow a little bit I when I got ready to come back in about an hour I went to lift a bush hog up and nothing happened it did not even try to pick up up until 9 picking up fine completely quit all at once
Rilly nice old Ford tractor. I love the old Ford tractors
nice work on the pump. and congrats on the trophy for best tractor at the show.
That little tractor works great.
Nice work and really good video easy to follow
Excellent video, I enjoyed watching.
Good installation of the new pump, I also liked the little extension you made to move the larger diameter hose away from the gear case flange.
Thanks!
Cool stuff, I got several hydraulic pumps (newer) style rebuilt and ready plus several starters and generators rebuilt
i'm always amazed at how many people don't know how best to use an adjustable wrench.
And yes everyone loves “period correct “tie wraps! 😎 Tim in northern TN
Very nice will think about it for my 53
Very nice modification, and a well made video.
Thank you!
Daniel, those hydraulic fittings are called ORB, short for O-Ring Boss. The threads are based on SAE or fine thread bolt sizes.
Hello from north east Montana.
10 miles from the Canadian border.
Great, thanks for the additional knowledge!
Daniel. I have watched just about every Jubilee video there is and glean what I can from Yesterdays Tractors forum too, and not only congratulate you on the parade trophy, but you also should get an award for the clearest presentation on replacing the pump on a NAA. Everything about your install was just perfect. I watched your entire process and am intrigued. I've owned my 53 NAA Ser. 34312 for almost 12 years and some years ago contacted Windy Ridge Farm about that pump. I also have the Vane pump. I'm, for 11 years now, renovating my Jubilee. Everything is pretty much still apart. About two months ago I rebuilt the Lift cover Hydraulics. New O-ring,piston, and gaskets set. And cleaned out the inside of the reservoir. Borrowed a video by Dan Gingell & his dad. The surging is possibly caused by a bad O-ring on the unloader valve. My unloader valve did not have the o-ring, but early NAAs did.
I also wondered about your interest in Mouser & Digi Key electronics as I also use them in my Ham Radio hobby.
I hope you see this and we can connect more about our somewhat rare NAA tractors. I have many questions I'd like to ask. Lastly, there are ways to see what's happening with your hydraulics without removing the lift cover. You can remove either of the side covers to observe if oil is bypassing somewhere.
Just got me a jubilee couple days ago. it's a 53,but can't read the serial.
@@tnhomestead Fine business Daniel. Unfortunately for us there aren't near as many made as the 8N. There are several forums for these old tractors and many resources for parts. It looks like you made a good find and still 6Volt system too. The 6Volt will serve you well, Just keep battery posts and cable terminals clean and it will work well. You handled that pump change like a pro. Unless it's a very early model 53, the serial is on the LH bell housing behind the starter. You may have to remove some paint to see it. If there is nothing there, it will be on the upper LH forward side of the block. I'm anxious to get mine back together and maybe it will look as good as yours. Mine will remain retired like me. I use my 53 Ferguson TO30 on my small acreage. Nice music too.
@@williamokrasinski9840 The serial on mine is on the head, but need to get it cleaned up to find the numbers. I can tell they are there, but can only see a couple of them.
@@tnhomestead Sorry for my confusion. I thought I was communicating with Daniel who replaced his Hyd. Pump. So I'm still curious now about both you and Daniel's tractors. If it's an early NAA, the serial is on the block below the Exh. manifold above the generator. After serial number 22239, it on the flat behind the starter on the bell housing.
@@williamokrasinski9840 Figured that. My serial is on the block, just can't read it well. Going to see if I can figure it out this week.
You needed to shorten the top link a smidge. The scraper won’t try to dive so fast. Love my golden jubilee
Thanks for sharing. I have a 640 with a intermittent pump and was thinking about it.
Also you may want to consider a rebuild option on one of the newer pumps. Here is a good how-to video on that: th-cam.com/video/ILaIk0D1_z4/w-d-xo.html
Not to be snippy, but the period correct tie wrap(26:00) would be baling wire;) Great install.
Here in Australia we call it cocky's joy {fencing wire}.
Cocky is a nick name for a dirt farmer
Ha, yes it would, haha.
Great video!
Very Informative, have you seen the new hyd adapter plate for the jubilee? so you can add remote hydraulics? i think that paired with the bigger pump would be GREAT!
Can you provide a link?? Or more info? Thank you
What size Verail Flares are needed for the large and small lines. and where did you order them from ?Thanks,Great video !
Thanks! The specific flares (a -6 and -12) came from the Windy Ridge Farm and Machine kit.
nice thanks for sharing
I just bought a 1954 NAA. I got all my Tires holding air now. Next will be getting a 6 volt battery, adding antifreeze and water to the Radiator and changing fluids if it starts up right away.
It sat in a barn for 7 years, but the previous owner drained the gas tank and carb, radiator and block.
Do you think I should just get a carb kit and clean it up before starting it?
Good luck! I would try starting it as is to get going, and plan on a downstream carb service once you have the rest sorted. The carbs are really robust.
@@danielraible I have to get a plastic gas tank. The inside of the Tractors tank is nasty. So nasty it will not let fuel into the bowl. I have to remove the tank to clean it out. I liked to never figure out how to get the cowling off
@@davidvines6498 Yes, if the tank is that bad, then getting a carb rebuild kit would be wise.
@@danielraible I’m going to get a new tank and carb kit. After I try cleaning the tank first. Or I’ll clean it and sell it
Can you provide info on The rear attachment your using, and how do you unload the material? Great video!
Thanks! That is a dirt scoop. You can still get them new at places like Rural King or Tractor Supply, or get used ones from Craigslist. The operate like a trip bucket. When you set them down, you can pull a rope to undo a latch mechanism, then when you pick up the bucket it swings down and dumps the material out. Not as elegant as a proper front end loader, but once you get the hang of it they are very useful and the next best thing. With a bit of planning you can get a lot done, even excavating.
Great vdo
Thank you!
What "Red" did you use with the Rattle Can? Do you recommend it?
I do, Tisco Ford Vermillion Red.
Hi I have a 53 Juiblee that I want to do the same conversion on because it leaks. The seller’s website is no longer working is there any other outfits that do the same type of conversion kits? Thank you. I have already tried changing out all the gaskets and o rings. Leak seems to be coming from manifold at the bottom once it’s been running for a few mins. I see no obvious cracks or any other damage.
Yes, unfortunately it seems the owner is ill right now, so currently not taking new orders. The real key to his kit was the adapter between the proofmeter housing and the new pump, if you could find someone to machine it: www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=908875
Also J&D Prodicutions, Inc. and WaltsTractors will rebuild old pumps. I would suggest contacting both to see if they would start offering a similar conversion package.
Why didn't you take the line off to cut it instead of using a little hand hack saw and trying to clean the burrs underneath.
A good point. Since this was my first time working on a hydraulic system, I wanted to disassemble as little as possible. There are many ways of accomplishing this job.
Before I finish the video, I'm saying your surging is the lift correcting. Does it do it with no load on the 3 point? let's see if I am right. LOL Thanks for the video, well done.
yep, can see it correcting at 37:17 with the tree on the rear forks
Can you run a whole new line for the steel line to a fitting, or does it require a versa link?
You could replace the whole line back, like I did the smaller one. Since the kit came with the versa link I went with that first.
Good day from Ontario. Would this work on 800 series too? Good video Thanks
Thanks, I don't see anything on their website explicitly calling out 800 series, but they do list 1000 series, so it might be possible. I would recommend giving them a call, perhaps it is just some parts differences in the kit.
Yeah better do something about it on my MF 2640 outside hy.pump no steering and another type of pump on the 9240 instead of that expensive gerotor type,thank you.
Surging is coming from the suction. Just have a think.....
how will they adapt the gear pump on the bent shaft of the old model? I'm from Brazil
For the older tractors, with the front distributor location there is a different kit on their website.
could you send me the website link
@@Visãobrnetwork This is his main site: windyridgefarm.us/WindyRidgeFarm.php
did you have to change the type of oil to a specific oil for gear pumps?
@@Visãobrnetwork No, I did take the time to purge out the older oil, and replaced with Universal Tractor Fluid (UTF), so nothing special.
Hello sir, your tractor is interesting. Every 100 series tractor I have seen has the hydraulic lines inside the trans case. And a Manifold that bolts up to it and connects to the vane pump. Thats the way i mine is. I'd love to replace my original vickers vane pump, but not sure if its possible. Is there a kit available for my application. 1957 Ford 600 tractor. 134CID w/ vickers vane pump. Please advise. thanks!
Yes, if you go to the Windy Ridge Farm and Machine website you will see a kit option for the 600 series tractors, which have the cast manifold instead of individual hydraulic lines. Mine is an earlier model NAA, so is a bit different than yours.
Where do I drain the oil and refill it to the right level
Is there a model number on the pump?
I looked all over it, and unfortunately I could not locate any numbers.
So, the question is, where do you see the main advantages of this mod?
For me, I wanted a modern-style pump with a fixed displacement to extend the longevity of the tractor. If you are concerned with originality it would probably be best to try to rebuild the vintage pump, assuming you can find parts and have the know-how. For me, I wanted to get the machine back into service with modern parts for dependability.
@@danielraible You may not know- fair enough, but since this flows about 2x the OEM pump will it be able to run a FEL and/or Remote Hydraulics?
@@MrDdaland This is a good question, and I do not know. Windy Ridge mentioned they are developing a remote hydraulic kit, and I am VERY interested in that so I can run an actuated top link - so my hope is the pump could handle both that and the lift arms at the same time. If/when that kit is released I will certainly try it out and share the results.
@@MrDdaland i have a remote cyl kit on mine with the old pump. works fine. I got the adapter plate on etsy.
@@danielraible i have a remote cyl kit on mine with the old pump. works fine. I got the adapter plate on etsy.
Does anyone else offer this kit? Windy Ridge doesn't anymore.
Yes, unfortunately it seems the owner is ill right now, so currently not taking new orders. The real key to his kit was the adapter between the proofmeter housing and the new pump, if you could find someone to machine it: www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=908875
Also J&D Prodicutions, Inc. and WaltsTractors will rebuild old pumps. I would suggest contacting both to see if they would start offering a similar conversion package.
Where can I fine this up grade pump at
The link is up in the video description.
@@danielraible Looks like Windy Ridge Farm stopped taking orders due to illness. That's a shame. Wishing them the best and a quick recovery.
Price of the new pump?
Does thus work on 9n ??
The is a separate kit for the 9n, but it looks like the owner of the company is ill so not producing them right now.
How much was the pump?
I 'think' the whole package was around $400-500.
Are they hydraulics any stronger, or faster?
I'd say they move about the same with my heaviest implement, which is a 600 lb box scraper. The important thing is the tractor doesn't run through oil anymore.
Ha, I was waiting for that old gasket material to fall into the housing
Me too. From the moment he started scraping.
Where did you get the pump kit from ?
windyridgefarm.us/WindyRidgeMachine.php
How’s it doing
Holding up just as well. I am working on adding a secondary hydraulic circuit now, hoping to release another how-to video on it.
On my 2000 Ford selectshift I was hooked to my boots are I'll pick you up when out and mow a little bit I when I got ready to come back in about an hour I went to lift a bush hog up and nothing happened it did not even try to pick up up until 9 picking up fine completely quit all at once
Good morning
GPM rating?
6.7 GPM @ 2000 engine RPM
Where did you obtain that hydro bpump kit ?
Windy Ridge Farm and Machine: windyridgefarm.us/WindyRidgeMachine.php