4 Blade Composite Prop review on a brand new Cirrus Aircraft SR22T. Is it worth it!? You Decide!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ต.ค. 2020
- The 4 blade prop is such a cool addition to the SR22T. With help from my great friend Sarah Talucci, she and I made a personal review of how it was in flight, what we felt and how it sounds. Make sure to follow Sarah on Instagram @cirrussarah!
My first instinct is that it made the airplane sound and feel bigger. It had a really throaty rumble too it that made me feel good! It felt quieter because the rumble had more bass to it.
The look is fantastic, its a fresh sleek upgrade to the appearance of the SR22T. I have been able to see it in many different color schemes now and it is SHARP!
The flight characteristics were a home run for me. On final approach, I really can see how this propeller will make your landings predictable. Just the extra feather of a float on landing is incredible!
All in all, I love this propeller! Its a great addition to the line up!
Al, Sarah Thank you! Great job! Tons of info, best explanation I've heard as to why the SR22T benefits from a 4-bladed prop! Particularly liked it that you showed numbers and were flying! Nice job shooting it with only an iPhone too! Thank you again!
Awesome! Thanks so much for the kind words, glad you really enjoyed it. One of the things that I feel like this will do is make landings way more predictable in the SR22T. Its a great improvement - thats the fact that I feel will really shine with this propeller over the years to come!
I have the 2023 on order for April and I’m excited about the landing profile of the 4 blade prop. I never got used to the 3 blade fat composite prop of my Athena Turbo G6, and 700 hours later I finally figured how to do it right. Yet looking forward to more predictable landings more similar to my older Miss Grace. Thanks for the video.
Niko I want to know you thoughts! As you know, I am a TTx owner and curious to see if it cruises faster.
Red over sterling is gorgeous!
Awesome!
Thanks Al, I had the same questions, but I still prefer the three blades...
You’ll love your 3 blade on VV! It’s sooooo good.
It’s all about the performance. Not just the look.
Going into the flight I was thinking it would be all looks. After I had my first flight I felt 3-4 things that were super different in performance that are meaningful to my flying. The approach and landing characteristics being one of my favorite. It’s awesome.
I actually think the 3 blade looks better
SR22T 4 blade in the Volt color is my new favorite looking general aviation aircraft!
SAMES!
MT has had a 4-b composite for the SR22 for over 5 yrs now. Cirrus founder Alan Klapmier has one on his personal plane. Nice thing about the MT is that the owner is allowed to make minor FOD repairs.
Awesome! Thats great. I have seen some of the MT props. They look cool!
Hey Al I’d love to see you do a detailed video or a video series on the purchase process, from factory build/showroom to delivery? Tell us the level of attention you give as a sales rep, working with the X1 team, financial requirements, the cost of transition training etc. The pros & cons of lease back options and other ways to make buying a Cirrus even more beneficial and live the Cirrus life, thanks in advance.
I’ll definitely put something together on that. It would be pretty cool. Thank you fo the ideas. Always wanting to shed a little light on what the people want! Thanks Craig.
You beat me to the punch on one request. On average how much more does it add to XI customization to the airplane? 🤣🤣🤣 Looking forward to the rest.
My experience so far.... WAIT!
Cirrus with a jet A burning diesel engine would be awesome...
Absolutely. Or a DA40 with a parachute lol.
@@christophermichaelson9050 no one needs a chute,, its descent rate is twice that of a diamond in full stall
MAGA Not really going to help when the engine fails at night
Would be awesome to see that one day!
@@MAGApepee , Where did you learn the fake news? That’s if it’s pitched up. Lol. It will eventually nosedive and descend at 5000fpm+!
I really like this plane!
Glad you like it.
4blades wow this is amazing
Its great!
Hi. Thanks for the video. You mentioned several subjective differences in your video. Just wanted to know if you could elaborate a bit more on performance differences between the two props? i.e. What about climb performance? Airspeed/cruise differences at various altitudes? Fuel burn? Prop maintenance?
Great questions. The performance is mostly the same for climb and cruise. Fuel burn is identical as it is the same Continental IO-550K engine. Both props have a very different feel from one another around them. I’ll get a little more experience with the 4 blade and can get some detailed specifics. I am sure there are some, but on a short flight wasn’t able to experience them all. I will have to look into the Maintenance question. I don’t know that specific piece yet as it is so new. That’s a great question.
@Al - at the 5:25 mark, Sarah's headset is seen in the background. How did she "engrave" or label her headset with her name? I'm trying to find a aesthetically, classy way to put my name on my Bose headset. Using a run-of-the-mill label maker just doesn't cut it...
Thanks
I’ll look into this…
The four blade dimensions looks similar to SR20 three blade dimensions. My experience in SR20 with thin blades is speed(energy management) on approach is more critical to accuracy vs SR22 3 blade that really does have a more effective air brake and power curve to manage energy when landing.
What is the advantage of 4 blades vs 2 or 3? Could we have 6 blades?
Different drag profiles and enabling performance variables! We often think the more props the more speed, but that's not always the case. I don't think we'll see an SR22T with 6 blades. I know there are some heavy transport turbo props out there with 6 blades!
Thank you and Sarah, another great Video. Just one questions, is a different fuel consumption between 3 and 4 Blade prop?
Best wishes from Italy and stay safe.
Hello! Thank you! The fuel consumption from what I saw was the same.
@@al.waterloo thx for your answer 👍🏼
I like the look of the 3 blade more.
I can see it! Always was a favorite of mine too.
So what are the advantages of two , three, four etc bladed props
The different propellers will give different performances. Some have lower drag profiles and some have higher performance at higher altitudes. This case is where you really feel the difference between the 4 and 3 blade props. It is awesome. You can really nail your landings.
Which one is safer? Guessing 4 blade because if one breaks then you have 3 left.
Looks awesome!! Bet a low pass would sound great!!
I think so too!
Nice takeoff!
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@@al.waterloo yes! 😆😆😆
Which one is better, with 3 or 4 props?
They both are strong and have totally different feels around them! I love them both. I can see needing a 3 blade prop if you fly into a busy airport. I can also see someone wanting to have a more forgiving instrument approach profile going with the 4 blade prop!
so whats with the hand covering the panel ?
Just pointing things out
I love the 4 bladed prop looks much better
It looks SO good!
@@al.waterloo I bet would love to hear the sound live
I Alan three blade prop sounds noisy up to the tbm 850. Or is it how it as been recorded. Take care buddy phil.
Thanks Phil!
What was the cost of this 4-blade upgrade?
To upgrade to the 4 blade prop its an $21,900 option!
Here in Australia the Hartzell 4 blade has been popular on the SR22 & SR22T for a few years now
That’s awesome!
still want it
Saw a 4-blade SR22T in KCOS 2 weekends ago. Very sharp looking. Just don't tell my 3 bladed SR22T I said that. She gets jealous !
Both look incredible and have special qualities on it. The more I am around the 4 blade I am like...yup mmmhmmm!
wouldn't the manufacturer try all types of blades to determine which gives the best performance?
Definitely! Owners can choose which performance level is right for them. It’s great to have options. Although the propellers preform similar speed wise they have completely different ways they feel. I can totally see where depending on my type of flying where I would prefer one over the other.
From a point of view closely related to the look it is not particularly attractive to me, but it is all about performance at the end of the day.
I don’t think anyone would mind going a bit faster at the end of the day!
So does a 4 blade prop vs. the 3 blade prop effect performance at all, such as top speed, acceleration, climb rate or fuel economy? I’m getting ready to order a new Cirrus SR22T very soon and am going to get one fully loaded with every option available on it. The prop was the only option that I was unsure about because I didn’t know the advantages and disadvantages of a 4 blade prop vs. a 3 blade prop.
I am going to be a new pilot by the way so if my questions seem like I’m a total uneducated noob, that’s because I am!
The prop is awesome. I have a few hundred hours in it now. Two biggest things I have felt, is that it has a better fatigue profile on the pilot. It feels smoother and quieter so on longer flights you aren’t as worn out. The landing performance is awesome. You can really float your landing a lot more which makes your landings a lot more predictable.
@@al.waterloo, thank you for responding and thank you for the info. Is there any difference in the planes performance between the 2 props concerning top speed, acceleration, rate of climb or fuel economy? It sounds like the 4 blade prop is the way to go though with the benefits that you described.
The blades are thin. The fat 3-blade Hartzel composite looks meaner and from experience, provides a needed airbrake on descent and on approach. Not sure why you want more quiet, the Cirrus is the quietest GA plane flying.
You are right! The thin blades will provide a different feel compared to the fat 3 blades. It’s awesome that one can now choose which feel will be the best for their flying. Things can also be a little quieter! The Cirrus is very quiet as it is, but when its a bit quieter it reduces fatigue...I just even bought a new coffee grinder because it was just a bit quieter!
@@al.waterloo Agreed the new prop is a nice addition, but it is an option and costs more. So the subjective element of quiet etc has to be judged by the buyer. Anyway, I use Bose ANRs and the plane could not be quieter...in fact, I keep one ear uncovered when starting the plane so I can judge how the engine sounds when it fires up. There is no problem hearing a spoken voice with the headsets off in the Cirrus.
Aesthetically, I still think 3 fat blades look better than 4 skinny blades.
The three blade always looks amazing and aggressive.
Looking cool and a 'throatier' sound isn't NEARLY enough for me to bother.
Performance improvements are the only interesting thing. This seems to add nothing but a large expense.
retractable gear and this would be awesome..
I hoped you would talk about the performance specs, the cost, etc. What is the reason to change? more speed? more climb? fuel efficiency? All hear is I feel this or that... it looks cool. Disappointed
I appreciate your channel. I am a huge Cirrus fan. I will only learn in a Cirrus plane and I will only fly a Cirrus plane. I am transitioning down to Florida and once settled, I wish to focus and study full time for my pilot certificate and then on to an IFR rating, back to back. I’m a slow learner and it would be best if I were to take six months or longer, to achieve my goal of becoming a part of the aviation community. I hope to incorporate my love for ministry and flying together. I’m also looking for some sponsorship for the cost of flight school, so we’ll see how far that gets me... I’m very interested in driving out to where you are in Tennessee and check out the Cirrus factory/showroom and taking everything in, not to mention recording a nice flight vlog. Keep the vids coming, because I get very encouraged by all those whom I follow on TH-cam. I’m a big fan of the four blades rather than three, just from a performance point of view. Pease...
Thanks so much, I appreciate your support and feedback. It’ll feel so nice to make some progress on your training towards your certificates. How awesome is that. Keep us posted on how it goes. Always welcome to stop by the Vision center at Knoxville TN. It’s a cool place.
Still like the 3 blade - sorry.
Nothing to be sorry about it! It’s awesome.
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Prop is one thing, but at 20000 feet, the Sr22t SO needs to be RG. It's like having an Olympic swimmer doing doggy paddle.
RG?
Damn, so quiet.
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Are you kidding me??!! 5 minutes of how the props look??? How about the important stuff like performance difference?
There is another 10 mins of info in the video with the performance review. Hopefully you didn’t miss it!
In other words it's not worth the added expense.
It’s up to you!
Lol, so if one of you have covid do you really think being that close to each other those masks would have helped you?
....honestly, who gives a crap about how it looks? When did that trump mission, design goals and performance? if this guy is Cirrus' idea of a 'point man,' they need to reassess....sooner rather than later.
If you need a mask to to fly with your own airplane that’s pretty sad
It’s our company policy to wear a mask when flying with others.
why are you wearing masks
Sexy plane and prop Al!
Thanks Paul! Its awesome!