Love this. I did the same a year ago. £100 for 9 graphics cards and I just needed any 2 of the good ones to make it worth it. Got a gtx 950, gt 1030, gtx 670, gtx 660 working and a local graphics card repair guy swapped the non-working ones for a working gtx 1050ti. I made out like a bandit with this deal.
A shame about the cards that didn’t work in the end. I would still keep the cooling for the cards as they may come in handy for other cards in the future if you grab them on a deal or parts hunt. Great stuff as always, Bryan.
@@danceographicocean If I needed fans for a card, I would just have the setup I have now, attached two Arctic P12's to my MSI GTX 970. Temperatures are in the 70s when gaming.
I used to be a Electrical Technician, back in the day, my knowledge is very limited, and I am going out on a limb her. If you are having to feed a higher volt (than designed) to you GPU. That would to me suggest that you have a power regulation issue on the cards (over use) I used to see this a lot on CCTV cameras. All we would do is replace the voltage regulator, and normally the first resistor next in-line on the circuit, as this would sometime effect it resistance / tolerance. please look it up, you may be able yet to bring those last cards to life... great hoard BTW.
First thing that comes to mind is, some VRM phases that step down 12 volt to GPU core voltage on the card are not working so GPU voltage is too low. When input voltage is a bit higher than 12v then just enough power gets delivered through remaining good VRMs for the card to turn on. Fixing bad VRM phases would fix the card.
I think it's also important to keep in mind where you get your untested graphics cards from. Most eBay sellers use "untested" as a way to get more money out of total junk.
I bought an untested z77 extreme 4 board on eBay and it worked completely fine. I used it as my main system from late 2017 to early 2019 and it still works fine to this day. In fact as I’m writing this it’s running with an 3770k with a 4.2ghz overclock right now.
Always check sellers' other listed items who state items are "untested". If they are also trying to sell similar items as "working" then they have the ability to test them and have tested them... they are lying to you and they don't work. The only 'untested' I will ever buy is from sellers whose selling history shows they don't regularly sell similar items and I query to check why they can't test it.
@@christopherwood2290 Anecdotal Evidence vs some dude using a throw away statement like Most this do that. In the end it comes down to you and how much risk you allow/welcome into your life. I for one would take my chances, fuck what 'most' do, have, say, think, or anything else honestly. My first buy were untested xboxes, half of them work, made my money back before even looking at the controllers or the ddr matt lol
Yeah that's usually what I find as well, though for some reason taking a look at these cards it just seemed like they were more just someone who had a stash of cards that they potentially pulled from a dumpster?
@@techyescity sure, plus even if they all were dead, its very possible now to sell any 16 cards as broken and get more than 100$ back. "untested" cards i see are usualy listed for half or more of recent crazy prices, like 1050ti for over 100$, and thats not a risk i would ever take.
I won a Clevo Sager P750DM-G laptop in an auction for $159 and it was untested. Has i7 6700k, 64gb DDR4 memory, GTX 980m, and 4k G-sync display. Only thing wrong is it has just one hot pixel in the screen that's barely noticeable.
well from cards that are not working you can extract mem banks and hardware and fans plus power stages and LDO MOSFETs, and you can try to fix a couple of them with the spare parts that you've managed to salvage, this way at least you gain experience in micro soldering and troubleshooting which is priceless in your line of work
@@samiraperi467 Yea thermal expansion puts mechanical stress on the solderpoints, doesn't it? If you reflow the solder in an oven youd risk components falling off, though its not impossible if you do it side by side with a heatgun and a little but of heat from below for heating up ground
@@robinbambach1458 Well, the card are basicly already lost from a certain point of view. I dont know if trying multiple times with increasing heat is a good idea, thermal expansion&contraction multiple times in a row... It takes a while for the card to reach the oven temperature, 10min 200C should be fine in most cases, in the solder oven the card is @ over 200C for 2-3minutes, not only exposed to 200C for that time, as it is preheated slowly step by step. (also 200° is not quite enough to make the solder flow in ROHS compliant devices, so basically all consumer electronics today)
Damaged parts with Things blown can also short out the power in (12V and 3.3 V) from the PCIE slot killing the motherboard If you want to check this kind of short grab a multimeter and in continuity mode (beep mode) hold the ground pin on the mounting bracket with the card on its back ports to the left... Probe with the red on the 1st 3 pins from the left, they are 12v (75W) input and 4th pin from the right of the notch is 3.3v the rest of the pins to the right after the notch is data (the 16x lanes and a ground pin at the end )
Wow! It just goes to show that some computer parts just need a good clean and some basic maintenance. Here in the UK non working computer parts are regularly sold on EBay as non-working parts only, so you could still get some money back on the non-working GPUs. Nice video, thank you.
Why? Could you ever earn a return of anywhere approaching $15 an hour for such work (factoring in the purchase cost)? And assuming the answer is "yes", would you end up with something better than a 1050ti?
Kudos to you! You: 1. help alleviate the GPU shortage a bit. 2. Make your future buyers happy. 3. Lower the e-waste pile on our planet. 4. Make cool youtube videos. :-) And I could add more good points.
Must admit, I've stopped watching JTC. All he does is whine ... then flex all the high-end gear he gets for free from manufacturers and vendors. At least Bryan here takes risks and gives it a go. Some of the stuff he does might not be pretty, but it's entertaining!
For some cards there is e-waste, for everything else there's TYC! Keep up the budget gamer content :P Just had an RX580 go dead, turns out one of its capacitors got loose from the board - running RX480 for now until I get hold of a proper multimeter and small solder iron - time to experiment!
Man, i've watched your channel for so long and found so much stuff to be super helpful and informative, when I get the extra $ I'm definitely gonna become a member. Hope your 2022 is better bro!
this psu problem with older pieces is just a pain, last year i got an old pc and bought a new psu and was hoping to get it to work but no, it couldnt power up the system, but an older psu with lower quality could, nuts.
I'm staggered that any of these worked. In my experience, "untested" means faulty. If the seller has the skills to remove a graphics card from a build, they have the skills to test it. You got extremely lucky here!
and in my experience untested means the seller just couldn't test it (lack of power adapter or something like that) ,9 out of 10 untested things I got were fully functional, but I don't want to push my luck so I only bid on super super cheap stuff ;-)
@@codewithjarred_ at ebay. there were various items that were listed untested, a sega master system, a NES,a Wii controler,a steering wheel for my PS3 and others. yahoo japan actions is another good place...and there "faulty" means "untested" (because japan!)
I've had a few old cards act like that first gtx 770 you tested. I literally installed the latest drivers from g force experience and from windows update. It completely fixed it. I was so surprised
That K4000 alone is worth it! Those Kepler Quadro cards go for surprisingly high prices on the used market. Around here at least, which literally is on the other side of the world but still XD
Take off the coolers and set the cards in the oven for a little while, that can SOMETIMES fix a dead GPU. (When putting the card in the oven, it can possibly fix damaged solders, which could be your problem)
TH-cam is such a f'n time sucker. That 17 mins went like a flash. It is of course also a sign that you're making well paced, interesting content. Cheers mate
Thank you for your vids, I was inspired to build my wife a computer after I built my own- with many recycled parts. She probably will never game but better than a prebuilt and it helps for her engineering courses. It felt good to bring what was meant for the landfill purpose and prove they are still useful despite not being cutting edge.
Oh wait, I've been watching ur content without knowing u were in Australia, glad to see quite a few tech TH-camrs in Australia popping up in every category, Hardware Unboxed, JarrodTech and u inlcuded
I have that exact same GTX 760 - just replaced it with a 3060 12GB last month (won the MSRP lottery from February!) and will swap it over to an old tower that I'll probably set up for my daughter to play with. Better than her integrated laptop graphics anyway. It was a really decent card, for its time. And certainly seems to last!
Send em' down to Melbourne Brian (mate), I'll sell the broken ones for 20-50 minimum (for parts) so jealous of those deals up in the Sunshine coast. Awesome find. Lets Go!
Happy new Year! This is the second video i've watch of your channel so far, and i've noticed TH-cam's automatic stabilization (i think thats whats called) in some of your takes. Be careful with that, it can make veiwers dizzy
I would invest in a hot air station and a microscope if you pick up stuff like this all the time, have a go at reflowing the soldier on the dead GPUs. It could be something as simple as a micro fracture in the soldier preventing the cards working properly. The ones with a garbled output with no load just all look like VRAM issues, well either that or incorrect voltage at the VRAM, probably not worth messing around with. The one with no display at all is more promising, well if there is no obvious damage.
Lead free solder is the problem. And there are probably too many components that would need replacing. If you have 400 you can buy a reballer table and you can get leaded solder balls in multiple sizes as well as the ball templates. memory chips probably need to be replaced. If they ever got overclocked that makes the lead free solder break down and crack. Reballing is really the only solution Sometimes you can reflow with a heat gun but you'll probably end up right back where you were.
1) First time always test on something like 2 machine You use. If power rail or gpu is shorted, it may take down pcie (seen that happen more then once). 2) You didnt take of heatsinks of all of theme? Old splat of thermal paste can also short something. Seen both cpu-s and gpu-s shorted by crapy paste or what ever they pick up over time of use. 3) Try if they show up as second card. Might be faulty bios and thats not to hard to reflash if it has corupted or wrong bios. (use int video or potato card as primary). 4) Always can heatblast with heatgun. Heatgun is cheap and worth a try, have got quite few back to life that way. Takes maybe 5min per card (depends bit on gpu size). Have had best luck with ati 2xx/3xx cards with this method. 5) As last resort can do "amper inject". Cheap lab powersupply, add bout 1-2v and slowly up the amp, if something is shorted, it usualy goes very hot soon. Often its 1 cap or resistor. Often can just remove it, short its track and all ok.
These issues are usually memory or GPU related. Possibly a reflow or memory swap would solve it, changing the BIOS is not recommended much less injecting more voltage into the board. Unless you want to permanently damage the video card.
i learnt about a neat trick where you do add voltage at a regular interval to be able to detect a short and change the part that "gets warm " . Starting at a known good value and raising current very slowly and checking over the card and repeat . at some point the gentleman was able to determine the exact part that was faulty and solder a new one in. recommended for experienced repairspeople. it might have even been Brian in a previous video.
That first card you tested of the four at 10:15 with the choppy screen issues, I had a card just like that with the same issue. My fix was removing the cooler and any other plastics I could, heat protected the ones I couldn't remove with film and put it in the oven for a few mins. The issue was resolved and that card is purring away 2+ years later in my nieces gaming pc.
Hope you're well Brian, it'd be great to see more workstation orientated builds with those quadro cards, that's of course if there's any call for workstation builds that you flip :)
the card that dont give signal at all might have a faulty/missing "small" component (like a single transistor, resistor or capacitor) check if there is any voltage in the power rails on the card (on 1000 series for example its 5v, 1.8v, vcore and vmem and 1.02v pex) i managed to fix a 1070 by checking the rails, saw that Vcore doesnt turn on because the enable signal on the voltage controller was 0v, i found a missing resistor and transistor and the card is working now
Nice find bro! I am happy that you definitely came out ahead! Yes..I would love to see some "behind the scenes" videos on how you operate your business! Be well and safe out there and Happy Holidays to you and yours! 👍👍❤❤ PS: I also LOVE the dumpster diving videos as that is what I used to do back in the day before my health went sh*tty and it became nearly impossible to find ANY electronics due to restrictions on recycling where I live. 😕
Artefacts is memory. Higher voltage NOT under load, doesn't mean much. Just because there is a picture, doesn't mean a GPU is running right. Fans flat out, incorrect reported GPU frequency, etc, all indicate the card is faulty. Tech Cemetery explains all this. I'll attempt motherboard repairs, but GPUs have too many BGAs, ie, a PITA if you don't have the setup.
Something you could do is use them the same way gaming laptops do. Use integrated graphics as video output and use the GPU to render the 3D graphics. It could also be the video output ports. My FX 5200 glitches and constantly gives a black screen when I use the DVI port at 1080p but when I use the VGA port at 1080p it works completely fine
You can salvage the component from another dead GPU (the same or similar mosfet) and replace the burned one. Find someone who can do microsoldering. Or even good at soldering
i did this last year and only got a gts 240 out of the deal , a directX 10 card with 1.5 gb of vram and about 150 shaders and cores. its a strong ish card but the other 9 were not capable of much at all. now i have 9 cards on the shelf to use as display adapters
@@MaximusAdonicus ahhh but the 440 a few years later and like 80 more cores really does a good job. you really have to crank the memory and clock speed though .graphics cards were slow for a long time. Bragging about 500 mhz core clock and 550 mhz memory . like damn
7:23 you weren’t wrong about them looking like 1060 those are used mainly in dells Alienware lineup I actually almost got ripped off someone put one of those in a modern Alienware pc since they look very similar but that’s still a good gpu
That was a good quota. If I buy something untested it means most times it is defective. :( The faulty graphics cards look, like the chips have desoldered themselves (cold solder joints). That would require a proper reballing to make them work again.
I wonder if using a heatgun to heat up the back of the pcb with the cooler and backplate still connected (so there is pressure) enough that it slightly remelts the surface mount solder and resolidifies creating a new join would work for any... heck doing exactly that worked for me on 5x PS3 to reserect them from the yellow or red flashing light deal. to my knowledge all of those PS3 are still working 3 years on. Others on the web at the time said chucking the PS3 MB into the oven at 200 degrees (i assume Fahrenheit) did the trick, but I didnt want to risk melting the plastic connectors, so I just used a heatgun to selectively heat the parts of the board around the CPU, GPU and Memory, then let it cool down naturally over 40 minutes or so. When I put it back together it booted, new HDD got the Sony OS on it and was working like a charm. Maybe something similar could be done with these. Unfortunately I dont think I have any dead GPUs around, only got living ones so cant try it.
Good Show! I would definitely take the same chance. Also, I would try to replace the burned mosfets if they aren't very expensive. There's always the chance that something else is damaged also.
Bryan, if demand persists in the way it has, have you considered learning component level board repair, Rossmann-style? Not worth it for low end GPUs (unless the fix is obvious), but for anything decent just a few repairs would likely cover the cost of the tools required (hot air station, bench PSU, microscope, perhaps an oscilloscope, etc.), and then after that it's just sheer luck of what you can get hold of. Plus, the same equipment could be used for mbd repairs.
Cost out your list of tools and equipment, then the time in years and money to train up. Not a trivial thing. Surprisingly its the stereo microscope that will bankrupt a buyer. these things are not given away. expect to pay thousands due to demand and how useful they are to many..
I know its a hobo trick but I often was able to restore functionality by lightly touching some of the solder connections. Sometimes they would have time cracks you really could see and a simple tap with the iron would fix the connection.
Nice content, but try those cads with a riser. If the vcore is shorted it could take down your mobo because the 3.3v rail in the pcie is shorted with a dead core
Hi Brian have you thought about asking another TH-cam channel like tronics fix. to see if there interested in fixing the broken gpu's that are not working. Just a suggestion
Well a pretty successful buy, you should more than make your money back building basic systems with the lesser ones and the better ones will be the icing on the cake. You can do really well most of the time if you're a little careful about what you buy.
you think reflowing the solder would've given them a second chance? obviously only on the more valuable ones. I guess it's not worth it unless you had 1060's etc.
Ive got a 980TI that has some strange problems, crashes, freezing the entire system every now and then, and any crashes or freezes result in one of the HDMI cords getting burnt out/no longer working.. gpu still works.. monitor still works, replace the HDMI cord and its good for a while
vram encoder errors . thats what the problem is no flashing need .. inject voltage and take reading .. reflow faulty vram chip and encoder then retest .. these video cards have a high heat saturation and are prone to warping if the air flow level is to low and the passive cooling can't get the heat out even with fans . and plus the back plate of the card was under stress from the damage .. the fix would be to remove the heat sink and fans and back cover and mounting plate. . heat soak the the pcb to allow the stress to release and reflow all vram chips . and retest .
Which type of cleaning liqueds and tool you using? I took gtx1050ti from friends pc and put in mine and does not work. In meantime I clean it with soft car brush at back, around fans and at side, I was gently, dismentle fan hausing to clean radiator with brush. Now does not work... Friend is huge smoker, gpu is sticky.
I have the same HD 7950 and sometimes when I turn on the computer, the computer won't boot, so I remove the two GPU power cables, turn on the computer for 5 seconds, turn it off and reconnect the cables, when I turn it on again it works well, I have tried the graphics card on totally different computers and it does the same thing
These cards with artefacts are mostly having faulty memory chips. For the more expensive cards you can grab the nvidia diagnose software, let it figure out wich chips are toast and then replace the chips. But thats not a 10min job :)
There are some case where the PC will boot but no output. Using onboard graphics, you can check device manager if the gpu is detected and if it is then you can still use in using windows 10-11 graphic settings. its the output controller that is faulty. Other case where it boot to windows but card is not detected, leaving it for few minutes to warm up, shutdown windows and turn it back on, then gpu is detected. This one I wasn't able to solve what causes it but gpu works until you turn off your PC and turn it back on the next day.
I've been on ebay since 2004 and I learned a year after I started buying laptops to repair and resell that when someone says "untested" it means, "tested and it is dead and we are just trying to get money for something by lying and saying it is untested" But once in a blue moon you get lucky.
I just got a 8800GTS 640mb AND thinking that I'm the Daddy.. thought this would be a perfect GPU for my retro PC build. Damn Bryan, I should of double checked.. 8800 Ultra would of actually been the Daddy.. I'll drop my video in a couple of weeks if your interested? Happy Christmas dude, all the best from Ireland!
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Love this. I did the same a year ago. £100 for 9 graphics cards and I just needed any 2 of the good ones to make it worth it. Got a gtx 950, gt 1030, gtx 670, gtx 660 working and a local graphics card repair guy swapped the non-working ones for a working gtx 1050ti. I made out like a bandit with this deal.
Thats an amazing deal
@@Apocalyman Thanks, I thought so.
hell yeah dude no better feeling than making out like a bandit hahaha
Where did you bought them?
Where did u buy them I need to try this
A shame about the cards that didn’t work in the end. I would still keep the cooling for the cards as they may come in handy for other cards in the future if you grab them on a deal or parts hunt. Great stuff as always, Bryan.
@@danceographicocean not 100, but maybe 50
@@danceographicocean If I needed fans for a card, I would just have the setup I have now, attached two Arctic P12's to my MSI GTX 970. Temperatures are in the 70s when gaming.
i was hoping for some chip level repair like swapping memory n stuff
I love how the top comment ruins the video before I even put it on full screen
@@abadmiah4906 what did that ruin? You thought he was going to fix EVERY broken card??
I used to be a Electrical Technician, back in the day, my knowledge is very limited, and I am going out on a limb her. If you are having to feed a higher volt (than designed) to you GPU. That would to me suggest that you have a power regulation issue on the cards (over use) I used to see this a lot on CCTV cameras. All we would do is replace the voltage regulator, and normally the first resistor next in-line on the circuit, as this would sometime effect it resistance / tolerance. please look it up, you may be able yet to bring those last cards to life... great hoard BTW.
First thing that comes to mind is, some VRM phases that step down 12 volt to GPU core voltage on the card are not working so GPU voltage is too low. When input voltage is a bit higher than 12v then just enough power gets delivered through remaining good VRMs for the card to turn on. Fixing bad VRM phases would fix the card.
I think it's also important to keep in mind where you get your untested graphics cards from. Most eBay sellers use "untested" as a way to get more money out of total junk.
I bought an untested z77 extreme 4 board on eBay and it worked completely fine. I used it as my main system from late 2017 to early 2019 and it still works fine to this day. In fact as I’m writing this it’s running with an 3770k with a 4.2ghz overclock right now.
@@EvilTurkeySlices That is anecdotal evidence. Many times "untested" is just a cover for "it doesn't work".
@@christopherwood2290 also bought 6 game controllers all untested. All of them worked.
Always check sellers' other listed items who state items are "untested". If they are also trying to sell similar items as "working" then they have the ability to test them and have tested them... they are lying to you and they don't work. The only 'untested' I will ever buy is from sellers whose selling history shows they don't regularly sell similar items and I query to check why they can't test it.
@@christopherwood2290 Anecdotal Evidence vs some dude using a throw away statement like Most this do that. In the end it comes down to you and how much risk you allow/welcome into your life. I for one would take my chances, fuck what 'most' do, have, say, think, or anything else honestly. My first buy were untested xboxes, half of them work, made my money back before even looking at the controllers or the ddr matt lol
"Untested" in my experience in 100% of cases means that its broken beyond any repair and some scumbag is trying to get more money for his trash.
Yeah that's usually what I find as well, though for some reason taking a look at these cards it just seemed like they were more just someone who had a stash of cards that they potentially pulled from a dumpster?
@@techyescity sure, plus even if they all were dead, its very possible now to sell any 16 cards as broken and get more than 100$ back. "untested" cards i see are usualy listed for half or more of recent crazy prices, like 1050ti for over 100$, and thats not a risk i would ever take.
Yeah, this market is insane. Even complete e-waste with a GPU name written on it is worth $100-$200.
I won a Clevo Sager P750DM-G laptop in an auction for $159 and it was untested. Has i7 6700k, 64gb DDR4 memory, GTX 980m, and 4k G-sync display. Only thing wrong is it has just one hot pixel in the screen that's barely noticeable.
Not really, I got a 3ds and a ds lite for $40 total. Untested, no chargers... but when I ordered the chargers they both work like new. 👍
well from cards that are not working you can extract mem banks and hardware and fans plus power stages and LDO MOSFETs, and you can try to fix a couple of them with the spare parts that you've managed to salvage, this way at least you gain experience in micro soldering and troubleshooting which is priceless in your line of work
You mean...the Louis Rossman of Australia?
Fixing GPUs is not a easy task
some of these gpus could possibly still be saved by 10min of 200°C Oven.
Bad solderpoints are not that uncommon for cards this old
yeah I bet the oven trick would fix most of those cards
200 degrees isn't enough to reflow solder. The only thing you'll affect with 200 degrees is issues with thermal expansion.
@@samiraperi467 Yea thermal expansion puts mechanical stress on the solderpoints, doesn't it?
If you reflow the solder in an oven youd risk components falling off, though its not impossible if you do it side by side with a heatgun and a little but of heat from below for heating up ground
@@robinbambach1458 whats that in freedom units?
@@robinbambach1458 Well, the card are basicly already lost from a certain point of view.
I dont know if trying multiple times with increasing heat is a good idea, thermal expansion&contraction multiple times in a row...
It takes a while for the card to reach the oven temperature, 10min 200C should be fine in most cases, in the solder oven the card is @ over 200C for 2-3minutes, not only exposed to 200C for that time, as it is preheated slowly step by step. (also 200° is not quite enough to make the solder flow in ROHS compliant devices, so basically all consumer electronics today)
Feels so satisfying to watch old parts being given that tech yes lovin
Damaged parts with Things blown can also short out the power in (12V and 3.3 V) from the PCIE slot killing the motherboard
If you want to check this kind of short grab a multimeter and in continuity mode (beep mode) hold the ground pin on the mounting bracket with the card on its back ports to the left... Probe with the red on the 1st 3 pins from the left, they are 12v (75W) input and 4th pin from the right of the notch is 3.3v the rest of the pins to the right after the notch is data (the 16x lanes and a ground pin at the end )
Wow! It just goes to show that some computer parts just need a good clean and some basic maintenance. Here in the UK non working computer parts are regularly sold on EBay as non-working parts only, so you could still get some money back on the non-working GPUs. Nice video, thank you.
Could also worked out of the package, they only say "untested"
Why? Could you ever earn a return of anywhere approaching $15 an hour for such work (factoring in the purchase cost)? And assuming the answer is "yes", would you end up with something better than a 1050ti?
Kudos to you! You:
1. help alleviate the GPU shortage a bit. 2. Make your future buyers happy. 3. Lower the e-waste pile on our planet. 4. Make cool youtube videos. :-) And I could add more good points.
Now this is content! Take note JTC, you were just asking what we want to see.... GPUs the little guy and budget resale builder can find!
Must admit, I've stopped watching JTC. All he does is whine ... then flex all the high-end gear he gets for free from manufacturers and vendors.
At least Bryan here takes risks and gives it a go. Some of the stuff he does might not be pretty, but it's entertaining!
Erm...who is JTC?
@@jeffsan0.5 jayz two cent?
@@naufalfarhan2255 oh i see, yeah his content became incredibly boring, he was way funnier around the r9 300 and gtx 900 era
Care to discuss?
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For some cards there is e-waste, for everything else there's TYC! Keep up the budget gamer content :P
Just had an RX580 go dead, turns out one of its capacitors got loose from the board - running RX480 for now until I get hold of a proper multimeter and small solder iron - time to experiment!
Isn’t the rx580 and rx480 the same architecture just that the rx480 have a lower clock speed. Form that point you aren’t missing out on much 🙃
@@moseses3414 Yeah I figure that as well :) and tied to an old i5-2500K i have definitely not noticed that much drop in FPS :D
@@mikfhan lucky u my 1050ti failed on me and I’m reverting back to my integrated graphics 🙃
Man, i've watched your channel for so long and found so much stuff to be super helpful and informative, when I get the extra $ I'm definitely gonna become a member. Hope your 2022 is better bro!
That looks like the seller put up 12 untested cards, then threw in a known faulty 1050ti + 3x known faulty 770s.
No way! Not a mistake! Cause if Tech YES Lovin is not enough, Taiwan YES Lovin will get the rest!
Taiwan YES Lovin' has been done in the past ;)
this psu problem with older pieces is just a pain, last year i got an old pc and bought a new psu and was hoping to get it to work but no, it couldnt power up the system, but an older psu with lower quality could, nuts.
a lot of really old motherboards require a lot of power on the 5v/3.3v rails that modern PSU's just dont supply.
I'm staggered that any of these worked. In my experience, "untested" means faulty. If the seller has the skills to remove a graphics card from a build, they have the skills to test it. You got extremely lucky here!
True I also had similar experience when I bought motherboard from ebay. I thought maybe this is bios problem but sadly it was more than that
and in my experience untested means the seller just couldn't test it (lack of power adapter or something like that) ,9 out of 10 untested things I got were fully functional, but I don't want to push my luck so I only bid on super super cheap stuff ;-)
@@vasopel where do you bid on these? where can i find something like this
@@codewithjarred_ at ebay. there were various items that were listed untested, a sega master system, a NES,a Wii controler,a steering wheel for my PS3 and others. yahoo japan actions is another good place...and there "faulty" means "untested" (because japan!)
@@vasopel Does Yahoo Japan Auctions ship international?
I've had a few old cards act like that first gtx 770 you tested. I literally installed the latest drivers from g force experience and from windows update. It completely fixed it. I was so surprised
That K4000 alone is worth it! Those Kepler Quadro cards go for surprisingly high prices on the used market. Around here at least, which literally is on the other side of the world but still XD
You can try baking some of the dead ones to see if resetting the solder helps.
Take off the coolers and set the cards in the oven for a little while, that can SOMETIMES fix a dead GPU. (When putting the card in the oven, it can possibly fix damaged solders, which could be your problem)
just did this with a broken RTX 2070 i bought for $20, its been working for a few weeks now in my main machine!
@@bendorn1214 Glad to hear
@@lynx9419 Don't electronics in the microwave mess it up?
@@watapak oven, not microwave
what temperature and for how long XD
TH-cam is such a f'n time sucker. That 17 mins went like a flash. It is of course also a sign that you're making well paced, interesting content. Cheers mate
Thank you for your vids, I was inspired to build my wife a computer after I built my own- with many recycled parts. She probably will never game but better than a prebuilt and it helps for her engineering courses. It felt good to bring what was meant for the landfill purpose and prove they are still useful despite not being cutting edge.
Great one! I'd love to see some more low-power-use gaming experiments too. I'll think about the membership, good luck to you!
Oh wait, I've been watching ur content without knowing u were in Australia, glad to see quite a few tech TH-camrs in Australia popping up in every category, Hardware Unboxed, JarrodTech and u inlcuded
I have that exact same GTX 760 - just replaced it with a 3060 12GB last month (won the MSRP lottery from February!) and will swap it over to an old tower that I'll probably set up for my daughter to play with. Better than her integrated laptop graphics anyway. It was a really decent card, for its time. And certainly seems to last!
Send em' down to Melbourne Brian (mate), I'll sell the broken ones for 20-50 minimum (for parts) so jealous of those deals up in the Sunshine coast. Awesome find. Lets Go!
That is what we call here at Tech 215, a Grand Slamarooni Home Run!!! The Yes Man Strikes Again!!!!
Happy new Year!
This is the second video i've watch of your channel so far, and i've noticed TH-cam's automatic stabilization (i think thats whats called) in some of your takes. Be careful with that, it can make veiwers dizzy
when you get just artifacts you can use the oven method, but that's only temporary of course
I would invest in a hot air station and a microscope if you pick up stuff like this all the time, have a go at reflowing the soldier on the dead GPUs. It could be something as simple as a micro fracture in the soldier preventing the cards working properly.
The ones with a garbled output with no load just all look like VRAM issues, well either that or incorrect voltage at the VRAM, probably not worth messing around with.
The one with no display at all is more promising, well if there is no obvious damage.
Lead free solder is the problem. And there are probably too many components that would need replacing. If you have 400 you can buy a reballer table and you can get leaded solder balls in multiple sizes as well as the ball templates. memory chips probably need to be replaced. If they ever got overclocked that makes the lead free solder break down and crack. Reballing is really the only solution Sometimes you can reflow with a heat gun but you'll probably end up right back where you were.
1) First time always test on something like 2 machine You use. If power rail or gpu is shorted, it may take down pcie (seen that happen more then once).
2) You didnt take of heatsinks of all of theme? Old splat of thermal paste can also short something. Seen both cpu-s and gpu-s shorted by crapy paste or what ever they pick up over time of use.
3) Try if they show up as second card. Might be faulty bios and thats not to hard to reflash if it has corupted or wrong bios. (use int video or potato card as primary).
4) Always can heatblast with heatgun. Heatgun is cheap and worth a try, have got quite few back to life that way. Takes maybe 5min per card (depends bit on gpu size). Have had best luck with ati 2xx/3xx cards with this method.
5) As last resort can do "amper inject". Cheap lab powersupply, add bout 1-2v and slowly up the amp, if something is shorted, it usualy goes very hot soon. Often its 1 cap or resistor. Often can just remove it, short its track and all ok.
These issues are usually memory or GPU related. Possibly a reflow or memory swap would solve it, changing the BIOS is not recommended much less injecting more voltage into the board. Unless you want to permanently damage the video card.
i learnt about a neat trick where you do add voltage at a regular interval to be able to detect a short and change the part that "gets warm " . Starting at a known good value and raising current very slowly and checking over the card and repeat . at some point the gentleman was able to determine the exact part that was faulty and solder a new one in. recommended for experienced repairspeople. it might have even been Brian in a previous video.
I say, put all the gpus in an oven. Profit
That first card you tested of the four at 10:15 with the choppy screen issues, I had a card just like that with the same issue.
My fix was removing the cooler and any other plastics I could, heat protected the ones I couldn't remove with film and put it in the oven for a few mins.
The issue was resolved and that card is purring away 2+ years later in my nieces gaming pc.
"Baking" GPU chips is kind of risky, after you "bake" the GPU, you cannot use that oven for food (until you clean out the oven).
Hope you're well Brian, it'd be great to see more workstation orientated builds with those quadro cards, that's of course if there's any call for workstation builds that you flip :)
bake the faulty cards that gave signal! :), then make custom bios from the default bios'os with lower clocks and reflash!
I'd love to see a video of you taking a solder to these cards or faulty cards like this and trying to replace the faulty chips
The old quadro was my favourite, along with the PNY galax... Happy yo see those survived
Those probably can be fixed but time and experience in microsoldering is required
Brian easy coming in with the Friday night banger? I'm here for it.
the card that dont give signal at all might have a faulty/missing "small" component (like a single transistor, resistor or capacitor)
check if there is any voltage in the power rails on the card (on 1000 series for example its 5v, 1.8v, vcore and vmem and 1.02v pex)
i managed to fix a 1070 by checking the rails, saw that Vcore doesnt turn on because the enable signal on the voltage controller was 0v, i found a missing resistor and transistor and the card is working now
Nothing was lost with that GT520, Well at least you have some surplus of coolers.
Maybe you could do a GPU baking video and test if that actually works. Some videos I have seen on GPU baking can fix signal problems.
Use heat gun. Warm it for 3-5 min and let it cool down it works so far for me..
@@speedwagon5951 Most don't have a heat gun as why they do them in the ovens.
pretty sure he's demonstrated the heat gun and baking methods before on previous videos.
@@disposable_hero1725 Yea but heat guns are cheap !
Wives going nuts about ruining the oven is expensive
@@davidobutt GPU > Wife.
Nice find bro! I am happy that you definitely came out ahead! Yes..I would love to see some "behind the scenes" videos on how you operate your business! Be well and safe out there and Happy Holidays to you and yours! 👍👍❤❤
PS: I also LOVE the dumpster diving videos as that is what I used to do back in the day before my health went sh*tty and it became nearly impossible to find ANY electronics due to restrictions on recycling where I live. 😕
Artefacts is memory.
Higher voltage NOT under load, doesn't mean much.
Just because there is a picture, doesn't mean a GPU is running right. Fans flat out, incorrect reported GPU frequency, etc, all indicate the card is faulty. Tech Cemetery explains all this.
I'll attempt motherboard repairs, but GPUs have too many BGAs, ie, a PITA if you don't have the setup.
Something you could do is use them the same way gaming laptops do. Use integrated graphics as video output and use the GPU to render the 3D graphics. It could also be the video output ports. My FX 5200 glitches and constantly gives a black screen when I use the DVI port at 1080p but when I use the VGA port at 1080p it works completely fine
You can salvage the component from another dead GPU (the same or similar mosfet) and replace the burned one. Find someone who can do microsoldering. Or even good at soldering
Try and bake those with the glitchy output, I have fixed quite a few cards with that :) Got one running in my Imac for over 2 years that was dead.
10:13 Ron Burgandy Vibes
Great Video, pity about some of them.. alas still a good pickup.
i did this last year and only got a gts 240 out of the deal , a directX 10 card with 1.5 gb of vram and about 150 shaders and cores. its a strong ish card but the other 9 were not capable of much at all. now i have 9 cards on the shelf to use as display adapters
The Gts240 might run CSGO at low settings, but that's about it 😬
@@MaximusAdonicus ahhh but the 440 a few years later and like 80 more cores really does a good job. you really have to crank the memory and clock speed though .graphics cards were slow for a long time. Bragging about 500 mhz core clock and 550 mhz memory . like damn
a new amd gpu broke the 2 ghz speed range and can clock to almost 3000 mhz/ 3ghz now . such a drastic difference
7:23 you weren’t wrong about them looking like 1060 those are used mainly in dells Alienware lineup I actually almost got ripped off someone put one of those in a modern Alienware pc since they look very similar but that’s still a good gpu
ayyy i did this with a pile of ten quadro k2000s and they all work
not amazing for gaming but they're excellent for your average desktop
That was a good quota. If I buy something untested it means most times it is defective. :(
The faulty graphics cards look, like the chips have desoldered themselves (cold solder joints). That would require a proper reballing to make them work again.
I wonder if using a heatgun to heat up the back of the pcb with the cooler and backplate still connected (so there is pressure) enough that it slightly remelts the surface mount solder and resolidifies creating a new join would work for any...
heck doing exactly that worked for me on 5x PS3 to reserect them from the yellow or red flashing light deal. to my knowledge all of those PS3 are still working 3 years on.
Others on the web at the time said chucking the PS3 MB into the oven at 200 degrees (i assume Fahrenheit) did the trick, but I didnt want to risk melting the plastic connectors, so I just used a heatgun to selectively heat the parts of the board around the CPU, GPU and Memory, then let it cool down naturally over 40 minutes or so. When I put it back together it booted, new HDD got the Sony OS on it and was working like a charm.
Maybe something similar could be done with these. Unfortunately I dont think I have any dead GPUs around, only got living ones so cant try it.
Good Show! I would definitely take the same chance.
Also, I would try to replace the burned mosfets if they aren't very expensive. There's always the chance that something else is damaged also.
Btw, some of those GPUs could've been saved by baking the GPU too, I mean, might as well try
It's a great success, when the GPU prices are this high! Keep 'em coming!
I got a cheap 960 because the hdmi was dead, but the DisplayPort was fine! you considered that?
Bryan, if demand persists in the way it has, have you considered learning component level board repair, Rossmann-style? Not worth it for low end GPUs (unless the fix is obvious), but for anything decent just a few repairs would likely cover the cost of the tools required (hot air station, bench PSU, microscope, perhaps an oscilloscope, etc.), and then after that it's just sheer luck of what you can get hold of. Plus, the same equipment could be used for mbd repairs.
Cost out your list of tools and equipment, then the time in years and money to train up. Not a trivial thing.
Surprisingly its the stereo microscope that will bankrupt a buyer. these things are not given away. expect to pay thousands due to demand and how useful they are to many..
Any update on the Big Boy duster? I know you wanted to give it a bit of a longer test drive, wondering if you’ve come to a conclusion.
I also do a lot of parts hunting where I live, Stockholm, it's so fun.
I know its a hobo trick but I often was able to restore functionality by lightly touching some of the solder connections. Sometimes they would have time cracks you really could see and a simple tap with the iron would fix the connection.
Bake em in a toaster! Sometimes soldering will loss contact and with enough heat it can restore those contact. 😄
Nice content, but try those cads with a riser. If the vcore is shorted it could take down your mobo because the 3.3v rail in the pcie is shorted with a dead core
Hey any Tech Yes Q&A livestreams? I miss those 1-2 hour streams they were great
Hi Brian have you thought about asking another TH-cam channel like tronics fix. to see if there interested in fixing the broken gpu's that are not working. Just a suggestion
Well a pretty successful buy, you should more than make your money back building basic systems with the lesser ones and the better ones will be the icing on the cake. You can do really well most of the time if you're a little careful about what you buy.
Great Job! What luck you had! I wish I could find 2 working 660 for $100.
you think reflowing the solder would've given them a second chance? obviously only on the more valuable ones. I guess it's not worth it unless you had 1060's etc.
I'd say use the ones with funky outputs for mining but they aren't really powerful enough to make it worth the electricity bill
Elevating the Shortage......the Aussie way.....it just works😂😂😂
Have you ever tried reflowing the GPUs that don’t work? You put them in the oven and it remelts all the solder connections
Your attitude towards used hardware is really inspirational. Hopefully more people act like you to save society from drowning in pales of waste.
Is their any Electronics repair shop specializing in Computer part repairs in Australia or a TH-cam Collaboration for some of those broken cards?
The aluminum and gold on the cards is worth more than what you paid for if you know the chemical extraction for the gold
"untested" usually translates to we couldn't fix them. I'm surprised so many worked.
Ive got a 980TI that has some strange problems, crashes, freezing the entire system every now and then, and any crashes or freezes result in one of the HDMI cords getting burnt out/no longer working.. gpu still works.. monitor still works, replace the HDMI cord and its good for a while
vram encoder errors . thats what the problem is no flashing need .. inject voltage and take reading .. reflow faulty vram chip and encoder then retest .. these video cards have a high heat saturation and are prone to warping if the air flow level is to low and the passive cooling can't get the heat out even with fans . and plus the back plate of the card was under stress from the damage .. the fix would be to remove the heat sink and fans and back cover and mounting plate. . heat soak the the pcb to allow the stress to release and reflow all vram chips . and retest .
Which type of cleaning liqueds and tool you using? I took gtx1050ti from friends pc and put in mine and does not work. In meantime I clean it with soft car brush at back, around fans and at side, I was gently, dismentle fan hausing to clean radiator with brush. Now does not work... Friend is huge smoker, gpu is sticky.
I have the same HD 7950 and sometimes when I turn on the computer, the computer won't boot, so I remove the two GPU power cables, turn on the computer for 5 seconds, turn it off and reconnect the cables, when I turn it on again it works well, I have tried the graphics card on totally different computers and it does the same thing
Where's the "Magical Oven of Ressurection"?!
really good return on that bunch regardless the ones that worked did work flawlessly
These cards with artefacts are mostly having faulty memory chips. For the more expensive cards you can grab the nvidia diagnose software, let it figure out wich chips are toast and then replace the chips. But thats not a 10min job :)
Another day at the TYC hardware sanctuary, 100% wholesome content.
This is the first time I see this channel and I do not regret checking it out!
There are some case where the PC will boot but no output. Using onboard graphics, you can check device manager if the gpu is detected and if it is then you can still use in using windows 10-11 graphic settings. its the output controller that is faulty.
Other case where it boot to windows but card is not detected, leaving it for few minutes to warm up, shutdown windows and turn it back on, then gpu is detected. This one I wasn't able to solve what causes it but gpu works until you turn off your PC and turn it back on the next day.
This could work really good
good stuff as always Bryan! I'd totally take the bet on the GPUs!
the amps on the 12v rail is very important the specs should be printed on the power supply
I've been on ebay since 2004 and I learned a year after I started buying laptops to repair and resell that when someone says "untested" it means, "tested and it is dead and we are just trying to get money for something by lying and saying it is untested" But once in a blue moon you get lucky.
Saw R9 370 during test. hope you'll make a video on it soon. Great content as always @#TechYesMan
Awesome! I would take the same offer!
Looking forward to the dumpster dive video!
I need to join your membership, but must consult my CFO aka wife
Is it possible to transfer them to a PCB / GPU repair channel? Looks like some of them can be repaired.
If I saw a deal like that locally... you bet your ass I'd go for it. Nice pickup man.
I just got a 8800GTS 640mb AND thinking that I'm the Daddy.. thought this would be a perfect GPU for my retro PC build. Damn Bryan, I should of double checked.. 8800 Ultra would of actually been the Daddy.. I'll drop my video in a couple of weeks if your interested? Happy Christmas dude, all the best from Ireland!
Oh boy, there's nothing more exciting than a dumpster dive! One man's trash is another man's treasure 😍😍😍
What do you think about component level board rework on the upper tier GPUs? Should be profitable, right?
wanna get good vibes ? just come to TYC daily to start your day and you good to go!!
tks for all your work Brian.
Cheers
That gt510 can be used for a solid heat sink on a chipset or other card possibly