This is a recurring theme, lol. People bring in stuff unprepared and basically clueless-and are shocked when they are not getting double what they have in their head.
I see this all the time at my car dealership. People bring in a trash car and want full retail for it as a trade in and then want me to sell them a car for a wholesale price lower than I paid for it.
Definitely, these guys are in the business of selling. They have crazy overhead cost with just renting a store, keeping the lights on, and paying employees!
Just a friendly suggestion, both for sellers and buyers: Transformerland is a GREAT reasource to see what figure comes with what accessory. Not just for transformers, they have info on many other lines too.
All these people saying, "well I got another box at home"..." well bring it, what are you doing other than leaving money on the table? I f you got more stuff bring it with the rest ;)
I think that's what most people tend to do, though. They'll take in the stuff that THEY think is worth more money, and leave the other stuff behind. In this day and age, there is no excuse not to do the research first.
When you go through a middleman, you will never get Fair Value. I once took my Hot Toys collection to a retailer, they asked me to sell them the items at half of the initial retail price when the item was first sold, despite the fact my collection was sealed. I sold it an Ebay, made 3 grand... profit...
This why I tell people do not get in toy collecting thinking you going to make money do it cause you like it. The store sell high and buy low. There the only making money.
Same applies to statue and replica props as well. Right now it seems there are so may companies with similar licenses, producing a boatload of products. Nothing is truly limited. Pieces are always reproduced, reissued. Now with 3D printers, you can make your own stuff.
@@DVDVAMPIRE01You get it, all this stuff is literally just nostalgia, there is only the value of the plastic and artistry. People should buy what they like to enjoy looking at or use.
These guys are extremely fair and reasonable and unless you want to take the time to sell online yourself dealers have overhead and they can't pay retail they have to resell.
The 82-83 Joes (and now more, occasionally even 00s have poor plastic) are breaking a lot more often when I replace O-rings or even put them on the original Hasbro stands. Waists break and heels fracture apart when the now-brittle plastic is stressed. I've gone to larger O-rings to prevent this. So... some of those with broken O-rings may well end up also being worth much less. It's a problem because all the O-rings eventually will need replaced. Even MOC behind bubbles. And you see the broken pieces mint on card more often.
Only reason the heels are breaking is because you are using early 90s style stands with the pegs a tiny bit bigger, I learnt the hard way and yes plastic quality is dropping rapidly with all toys and has been for a long time
@@Matt_Wilson01 No, not using the imperfect larger peg Chinese copies marked "1988 Hasbro" that are only good for JvC, VvV, ST, DTC, etc or anything from the 90s. Heels are breaking on original 80s stands, so I have gone to using the Star Stands Type 1 supposed to be for Star Wars and ReAction on a lot of the 82-83 Joes. Later figs are getting more brittle also. They occasionally may fall off the shelf on the stand that fits and then the heel breaks off. It's a pain.
Oh man, how did I miss that they made an Puppet Angel puppet. While James Marster acted his off in that episode, the performance from Puppet Angel was Oscar Worthy.
Or better said. GI Joes are not an investment. All investments require more people to be interested in the future. Gi Joes are interesting only to middle aged men who were children in the late 80’s. That pool is smaller everyday.
lol, figures without parts, not complete. Good luck trying to be one of 200 sellers and on top of that paying fees, shipping, and hoping to not get a return.
Just found your channel, can’t get enough. Love the TH-cam vids but swear you could get a legit TV show deal. I’m Major sports /Pokémon/mtg player collector, in my 20s & most of these toys are out of my age range but idc. This is so entertaining/festinating I can’t get enough. Just feel, there’s somethitn hear for a legit tv show that people would love to watch this. Keep it up man best of luck
These guys seem fair, the guy that owns my local toy store is a con artist always trying to down play the value of items to an absolute dirtbag level! Buys extremely low & sells extremely high! Ive personally watched him lie to people about big ticket items not being worth the money & the person knows they are taking a bath on it but people take his offer because they are desperate! Not good for business & needless to say I havent been back since!
they pump out so many toys now its hard to predict if anything will be worth anything. it takes a specific person to want something. or have room for it. i started the motu origins and have all of them up to date in a room that was already filled. 3grand later and im out of space and ill never be able to get rid of this stuff if i wanted to at what i paid for it
Yep, it should be personal enjoyment and display. Like you said they are pumping out toys by the tens of thousands, and great looking toys at that. We'll have land-fills full of this stuff in another 20 years. Go to Ollies and there are shelves full of toys, transformers, marvel, etc. Everything is different than it was 35 years ago when there was much smaller choice.
@@HermannTheGreat yup and even those toys from 35 years ago nobody today has any interest in them lol. my oldest toy i have is a planet of the apes catapult my dad saved from when he was a kid. i have no clue why he saved the box because he wasnt into toys cardds comics or anything. its the least looked at piece i have when i have visitors lol
Commented too early..just saw the Joes ( my favorite as a kid) i got the Sears "winter set" or something like that once and took the arms off SGT. Slaughter and put em on Spirit and would play like he was the badass Native "Billy" in Predator!
Wonder if he brought some Joe stuff in hoping to get more for it, then he'd come back with the other parts, thinking he'd get more money somehow rather than just bringing it all in , in one go
And for some reason that scar made Xamot one of my favorite baddies. Loved the one cartoon episode where Xamot "hooks up" with Lady Jaye and rescues Tomax. 🙂Before that was Scarface from the Marvel Comics who most likely inspired the often overlooked and very reasonably priced "Scarred Cobra Officer". COBRAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
Being in Australia, i find myself pausing the video a lot and looking at what is for sale in the background that i can't buy lol 😄 would love to go thru your store
i know nothing about transformers. but I know everything about Gijoe. I have just about every figure in the vintage line. I use yojoe for reference when completing figures.
@toyfederation - I can’t help but think a business like this is an accountant’s nightmare. Is it hard to keep track of everything on the financial side?
You could be right. Toy collecting leads to a crazy headache. 😵💫 First is to: stick to what you like. (avoids nightmare) Second: get rid of it when you don't. (avoids drowning in the stuff)
It isn't an accountant's nightmare. It is quite simple. There is no reason it should be anything but simple. You track two things. Cash In and Cash Out. That is as complicated as it needs to be. The IRS doesn't need to know what specifically was bought and sold and it could care less about how much you think you made on a single figure because it was part of a bulk buy and didn't have an individual buy price. You can track that type of stuff for yourself if you want (which is a waste of time in most cases), but as far as your accountant and the IRS care, Cash In and Cash Out on a quarterly basis are what matter. And when I say cash, I mean money changing hands, whatever the form.
Toy Federation….please buy a few iPads…it will change your lives! I would go bonkers trying to stare at small phone screens all day 😂. Love the episodes!
Great video. People harp on the sellers and sure you get the occasional disappointed person but for the most part I expect adults bringing stuff in know ahead of time they are getting a re-seller offer and are probably not concerned that much about it. If you're bringing in something to sell or get store credit, it means it has lost its personal value to you. Anything you actually care about you're most likely going to be trying to sell it online somewhere. But someone out there still loves those figures you no longer do, and that's where Toy Federation steps in.
If you really want to get more for your items, you need to sell them yourself and take the time. However, if you are in a situation, where you need immediate compensation, then you are out of luck as you will be expected to lose 50% to 70% to a business. They will have to find the clients to buy it may have to sit on it for a while. Unfortunately, it is what it is.
Many people who say they are collectors and watch these videos aren't collectors either. They buy them to resell them and the videos help them figure out what to buy next time they're at a flea market.
So funny! You're literally holding the parts of the Prime together! You're right though we are in an era where the toys parts are not even the problem, but the panels on the toy ARE - example> (Transmetal Dragon Megatron R/L Foot Wheel Covers)! Also, from experience check the cracks of the bottom of the GI Joe (others too) trays, I once found a Cobra Fire Fly Walkie Talkie jammed in there! You are the Pawn Stars of the Toy World! (In a good way!)
I bet you even dream about awesome toys..been watching awhile now..freekn luv this show/vlog/series whatever they call awesome nostalgic entertainment these days!
Remember: toy stores are like comic stores. The item you bring in, even a character that’s really popular, might sit on their shelf for months or years. Typically, if a good condition item is supposedly selling for $100, you might get $30 for them to take it off your hands. Open toys are not an investment. Also, with newer toys, it’s hard to know what will be really valuable down the line. So, if you have money to waste on this, then buy that G1 Megatron in the box for several hundred. Don’t buy 50 new Transformers today and hope for something in 30 years.
Stores offering $30 for a $100 item is why ebay and FB marketplace are taking over and physical stores are struggling/closing. Which I am all for. Physical stores had a monopoly for the longest time, offering pennies to people who had no other way to sell. Now the stores have to adapt or get run out of town.
Big thanks to all the bargain hunters and rummage sale goers for finding tons of figures and vehicles. They brought them in and it flooded the market. Bigger quantities available the lower the prices. Good time to buy. Poor time to sell.
I understand this Some go in with the thoughts it's going to be worth more I feel because when you look at ebay and you see what the prices are people will reflect on this But to a toy store with experts It's not what it seems Great episode today. It helps to know the difference when selling open box as well as new inbox
With retail price or ebay listings you have to instantly subtract 30% in seller fees, s/h, and taxes…. Then you subtract another 20-50% from that as stores typically pay less so they can profit. That’s essentially the trade in value
How big is the comic selection in the store? I see at least a dozen long boxes. Any slabs or keys? If I make the trip that would be the first thing I look at. 🙂
I love the state of mind we collectors have, me included. We should all get what we collect for super cheap because care so much about them, we "deserve" them and when we have them they should be worth the highest value possible. Such a classic state of mind from car collectors to toys to cards to comics to rocks. We're all the same. Please actually become a seller before you even think to critique the art of the deal. Anyone claiming scams, if you only knew how stupid you sound, you'd stop. Its obnoxious! Start selling your precious collection and then tell us about how cheap you sold it all for. I dare you. Oh but you'll never sell right? Hahahaha! Sure.
I collect lego, it's gotta pretty set value depending on condition - probably one of the most liquid collectibles...and hell yeah - let's say I have 20 sets, worth 100 each...each sale will take a month max if im lucky, each deal will take atleast 2-3 hours in energy spent towards that deal and the exchange...that's 60 hours and even if I knock off 20, it's still a full work week only worth 2k (minus whatever I paid which is probably close to 2k) spread over a few months lol
Well, I feel like a lot of people don't understand 'how the world works' or how to run a store. lol He owns a store/business. and has employees - all of that costs money. The people who talk about 'scams' are just dumb and have no idea what they're talking about. You can't go into a store and ask for $100 for a figure that's worth $100. lmao How much should he sell the figure for then? Definitely not above the 'value.' You should be happy if you get 50% - he has to handle all the 'work & costs.' Of course, there are exceptions - if you come in with the 'Holy Grail,' you might get 70-90%... In one episode, they show a 'rare' McFarlane figure - a 'mech' from the video game Titanfall 2. The 'value' is around $300, and I got $260 for mine - because I just listed it on eBay. In the store, I might have gotten $100, $150 for it. For example, there's the 'Star Wars POTF2' figure series from the 90s - they produced a lot of those, and some figures in this series have countless variations. It could be that the 'same' Luke, Darth Vader, or Stormtrooper costs $30 instead of $10 just because it's on a 'green' instead of a 'red' card. But if you come into the store with a collection of POTF2 figures, he'll probably still only give you $5-6 for each figure and add it up - even though there are some variations and figures that can have a difference of $10, $20, $30, etc. when sold. He himself hes so many of these figures and even tho there are variations that are worth 'more' - He will still only give you the 5-6$... If you want to know the 'value' of your collection/figures, you should know about your collection/figures yourself or do some research. lol And if you want to make money from it, you'll have to go to conventions and set up a booth yourself or go through the trouble of selling it all on eBay. However, if you are in a situation, where you need immediate compensation, then you are out of luck as you will be expected to lose 50% to 70% to a business.
Love ur channel and videos, I plan to stop in sometime this winter from Florida. Making the trip up. Thanks again for the constant uploads . I look forward to these each Saturday morning.
Interesting.....Toys are not an investment in most cases, a lot hold out forever to get their money back, but sadly that is not the case.....FOMO drives the prices up
The whole unicron trilogy transformers figures are so cool to mess around with. They might be chunky or funny looking, but I love finding loose ones just to fiddle with.
It kind of amazes me that when people bring in a huge haul and want to maximize the trade/cash value they don't bother to put in the extra effort of taking a couple hours to sift through and be sure to match the figure with it's accessories and weapons. This is the internet age, it doesn't take much effort to go online and see which figure came with which accessories and to even ballpark the value of what you have. Instead, you have these lazy people just dumping the figures and accessories and making everyone waste their time trying to figure out what is complete, what isn't, what it's worth, etc. Put in the extra effort, please!
Cool seeing some Transformers Unicron Trilogy era stuff again (Armada, Energon, Cybertron) Their Really solid Transformers toys, a golden era for engineering and value. Energon Tidal wave even without the missiles and ramjet is still pretty valuable. been going through my stuff lately from when I moved and it was a terrible mistake to try and seperate parts from the transformers figures. They ended up separated across several boxes. I know I just put all the cyber keys in one bag somewhere. Very few figures would just hang on to the key. Would be nice if they all had a compartment for it.
I love Transformers. The G1 stuff is worth more than when I was collecting it in the 2000s, but I'm not sure about the Bay stuff, or Energon and Cybertron.
U just find ways for joy..... you're money back for the collection is snagging also because there's soooo many other places that rip people off but u guys never do...WE THANK U FOR THAT
80s toys have IMO topped out. I will say this I know a lot of toy dealers they are jumping all over 90s toys. I am saying this you can still find 90s toys cheep. But some are already super high like TMNT. Some are crazy high already.
Men and Women and children of all ages if you are a toy collector of ANY kind and you live nearby Greer S.C. like me or even if your passing through the state of South Carolina you would be doing yourself a diservice not to stop by this toy Nirvana. If not for the TH-cam channel I would never have never found out about it. I traded in some old Kenner Star Wars figures for a Transformer I have been looking for unsuccessfully for a while and it was a wonderful experience! I could of stayed in there all day but I had a four year old with me and he had a doctor's appointment so I was in a rush. Im going back as soon and as often as I can as can now that I know it's only 25 minutes away. I was blown away by the place! They have EVERYTHING!!!!-I guarantee you will love it. It's toy Shangri-La 🤖👾🤯✌️👍👍
At least they were understanding about not being complete and didn't argue with you about it. Love the shop videos with trades in them and lol 😆 my son had transformers armada toys and I grew up with transformers and lol 🤣 I couldn't transform some of them. Great toy line though and it had the first unicorn toy ever, hopefully you get one of those if you don't already have one in the shop
If you are able always sell online whether its toys video games or whatever.A retailer/resale shop will screw you over royally and youll end up with a small fraction of what you could have gotten selling on Ebay, Amazon, Mercari ect.
They aren't screwing anyone over. As a business they need to make some money from each acquisition, just because something is worth $50 doesn't mean they will pay that for it. If they did they'd make no money and he out of business within months. That's how Wal-Mart operate and all retail businesses work.
I mean at the end of the day retailers need to make money so of course they will focus on getting it less than its worth as they need that profit margin. The real issue is weather you have the patience to find that right person to buy it at it's actual worth or you just want some easy quick cash.
@@Bird-Birdy-Love Your right and I've had decent experiences with retailers where they were willing to give me half of whatever it was going for online and I always believed that was fair.Ive had bad experiences though where whoever I was dealing with was only offering 20%-25% or less and those are the transactions I really regret.Thankfully I've been a trusted seller with a perfect rating online over the past 3 years.Even though there's not many things left I want to get rid of whenever I acquire something to sell I can patiently and easily deal directly with the buyer and do well even at a competitive price.
That guy with the case of G.I Joes ARAH got flat out robbed! An average Joe on eBay with no weapons sells for $15 ea. Not to mention the fact that a lot of those he had were V1 figures that avg $40-$60(i.e Scarlett, Tomax, Zamot, Barbecue...etc...etc..) Yeah, so $200 for that case is highway robbery. Toy Federation re-sold those for over $1500 easily. C'mon guys, a lil bit of integrity goes a long way. You saw that guy coming a mile away.Yo Joe!
Ok, they’re not worth what the seller wants. Then why are they priced crazy, with no weapons, and expect the sellers not to get a little bothered over that shit. I have sold to toys stores in the past, just to come back and see them priced 3 to 4 times, than what I was paid for them. Like seriously GTOH, people. Y’all way too shady with yalls comment. It’s horrible for a seller to demand close to a fair price than a low ball one, but absolutely in the right given mind for stores to price them insane. Hypocrites. Stay with the same energy.
I most likely cannot be a toy store owner like yourself. I'm pretty sure that you guys have spent a lot of time to check each figure was complete and offered you the number and have the person say that they will think about it or bring the missing parts all together and never come back. I just don't have the patience. I would feel like I just wasted my time that I could of done something else. But that's the reality of the business side. You need people coming in and trade in to replenish your inventory and also the person who is bringing in the toys are actually buying more than their credit.
I'm super curious why I haven't seen any mention of the Micronauts.... that was a really awesome toy line even if I maybe wasn't as successful as some others..... I'm not a collector but if I was the Micronauts would be what I would collect...
This was painful to watch. As soon as they said that they didn't know the sword was stored there on Vector Prime and that they were learning I would've walked out. Then again when they didn't know where Commetor was on Armada Jetfire. Couldn't tell Jetfire from Cybertron Optimus from Energon Optimus from any version of Ultra Magnus. Did they even check Menasor's chest for Heavyload? They at least knew enough to check Tidal Wave's arm for Ramjet. You'd need more than ten to fifteen minutes to give a proper evaluation. And to go to someone who at least knows more than these people did. I get that I know more as Transformers is my thing but I can price pretty much anything from any toy line out more accurately than that. Cybertron Optimus Prime even incomplete can sell for around the $120 range. So no, these figures are not "trash" like people in the comments are saying. Vector Prime with sword, missile and Safeguard is around $70. Energon Tidal Wave is around $90 even without Ramjet or the missiles. Cybertron Menasor without Heavy Load is around $80 as it's the big floppy things on his back that are the pieces mainly missing but NEEDED for the alt mode since Heavy Load is almost always in his chest. So that's the $350 before going into Cybertron Defense Red Alert & Hot Shot, Cybertron Megatron, Armada Jetfire, Energon Optimus, 2007 Optimus and whatever else they had in there. Given overhead and whatnot, a better offer would've been around $550ish just based on the Transformers. I spy Universe Fireflight, Alternators Optimus, Alternators Shockblast, Alternators Grimlock, Energon Slugslinger, Classics Cliffjumper, Classics Astrotrain, several different Animated Megatrons it looks like, Cybertron Undermine, Energon Ironhide, Energon Divebomb, Titanium Optimal Optimus, Titanium WWI Optimus, Classics Starscream, General Grievous and more. Did you even go through the entire box to see if the missing pieces were on the bottom or check that baggie? Nevermind, it should've been more around $700ish for trade in value just based on what I see for the Transformers only. And why are you so fixated on the Cyber Keys? There's only a small handful of them that actually have any value. The Matrix key from Optimus, the special Decepticon key from Megatron and Galvatron, the key from Vector Prime and maybe the four gold bordered Planet Keys from Metroplex, Override, Evac and Scourge (who all don't seem to be there anyway). Also the Botcon and SDCC exclusive keys but there's no need to worry about those either. Anyone calling the Unicron trilogy era figures trash knows nothing about Transformers. The people who grew up with those series are the ones now going back and collecting so prices have gone up quite a bit. It's the G1 figures that have gone down unless they're Headmaster, Powermaster or Targetmaster units or a select few other figures. Those will always have high value. The rest keep going down due to constant reissues every few years that ALWAYS go on clearance and the near endless stream of knockoffs. There's a whole new series of KOs right now that are easy to get complete with KO boxes and inserts.
You aren't wrong, and as you pointed out, your bag is the Transformers angle, and it is hard to watch someone fumble through and borderline insult when they seem to have a limited knowledge. But complete is complete. If you sell me something described as complete, I want all my keys, bibs, and bobs.
Kinda weird (and shady) he was like oh these aren’t going to be worth much I can tell ya that before he even looked at them ……and making little comments like “transformers don’t go for as much as people think” laying the groundwork ……I’ve seen this guy do quite a few questionable and dishonest things on this show ….I’m glad the guy with the gi joes was smart enough to walk away from that lowball offer he gave him
It's pretty wild to think that back when Cybertron had ended only like a year or two earlier, I was able to snag the Japanese versions of Prime, Wing Saber and Leobreaker for like $100. But yeah, the toys of that era are far from "trash". If anything, in some ways they were better than what we have now! @@AgtWashingtub Also this. If something is advertised as complete, it _should_ be complete. The Hasbro Cyber Keys are actually a bit worse since they have unique codes on them which makes them specific for each figure!
anyone that puts this much time into a youtube post doesn't have a job and is supported by his mom......but hey, gives you more time to talk smack and play with your toys.
That stuff looks like a bit of my collection. that was galaxy force optimus trailier and the links optimus trailer. i forget what that is call in 'merica What is a binaltech -17 wonderfest exclusive worth? i have 4 of them.
Would you have taken the money or come back when your toys are complete?
Bring it all in and get that sweet trade in or cash. Especially if you have no idea what piece goes with each figure
Would've been prepared and came in with complete sets so I don't have to make a 2nd trip.
I’d have sorted everything out first and bought it complete so as not to risk wasting your (or my own) time.
He said he’d take $200 ?
I wouldn't bring them in without being 100 percent sure that I couldn't possibly complete them.
This is a recurring theme, lol. People bring in stuff unprepared and basically clueless-and are shocked when they are not getting double what they have in their head.
plus it's junk and or in a disrespected state.
Actually some of those armada or energon pieces go for A LOT
Especially when the condition is poor.
Or maybe old toys arnt worth very much.
I see this all the time at my car dealership. People bring in a trash car and want full retail for it as a trade in and then want me to sell them a car for a wholesale price lower than I paid for it.
You want max value, sell your own stuff. Don't pawn and expect top dollar in return.
I think alot of people just don't have the time to part there collection out but you are right 😎✌️🇬🇧
Definitely, these guys are in the business of selling. They have crazy overhead cost with just renting a store, keeping the lights on, and paying employees!
Just a friendly suggestion, both for sellers and buyers: Transformerland is a GREAT reasource to see what figure comes with what accessory. Not just for transformers, they have info on many other lines too.
All these people saying, "well I got another box at home"..." well bring it, what are you doing other than leaving money on the table? I f you got more stuff bring it with the rest ;)
I think that's what most people tend to do, though. They'll take in the stuff that THEY think is worth more money, and leave the other stuff behind. In this day and age, there is no excuse not to do the research first.
Better yet, clean it up and sort it out first. Of course there's the danger of wanting to keep stuff after doing that.
When you go through a middleman, you will never get Fair Value. I once took my Hot Toys collection to a retailer, they asked me to sell them the items at half of the initial retail price when the item was first sold, despite the fact my collection was sealed. I sold it an Ebay, made 3 grand... profit...
These uploads have become a staple of my Saturdays now,so many nostalgia hits! And oddly soothing and relaxing, great work TF
This why I tell people do not get in toy collecting thinking you going to make money do it cause you like it. The store sell high and buy low. There the only making money.
Same applies to statue and replica props as well. Right now it seems there are so may companies with similar licenses, producing a boatload of products. Nothing is truly limited. Pieces are always reproduced, reissued. Now with 3D printers, you can make your own stuff.
@@DVDVAMPIRE01You get it, all this stuff is literally just nostalgia, there is only the value of the plastic and artistry. People should buy what they like to enjoy looking at or use.
Opened once means shit. It was either opened or not.
The best is, 'only transformed once' and they want current market for MISB.
People are so gullible. When a company sells something as "collectable" it will never be collectable.
These guys are extremely fair and reasonable and unless you want to take the time to sell online yourself dealers have overhead and they can't pay retail they have to resell.
do these people suffer from not knowing about ebay sold listings? come on, this isn’t brain surgery!
Dude knows nothing “yeah it was opened once” 🤦♂️ can only ever be opened once, opening it a hundred times is the same as opening it once
Showing up with a box of TF not bagged, not complete..randomly tossed in a box and expecting $ = stupid.
Oof, didnt consider this angle, but can't deny is feels valid.
The 82-83 Joes (and now more, occasionally even 00s have poor plastic) are breaking a lot more often when I replace O-rings or even put them on the original Hasbro stands. Waists break and heels fracture apart when the now-brittle plastic is stressed. I've gone to larger O-rings to prevent this. So... some of those with broken O-rings may well end up also being worth much less. It's a problem because all the O-rings eventually will need replaced. Even MOC behind bubbles. And you see the broken pieces mint on card more often.
Only reason the heels are breaking is because you are using early 90s style stands with the pegs a tiny bit bigger, I learnt the hard way and yes plastic quality is dropping rapidly with all toys and has been for a long time
@@Matt_Wilson01 No, not using the imperfect larger peg Chinese copies marked "1988 Hasbro" that are only good for JvC, VvV, ST, DTC, etc or anything from the 90s. Heels are breaking on original 80s stands, so I have gone to using the Star Stands Type 1 supposed to be for Star Wars and ReAction on a lot of the 82-83 Joes. Later figs are getting more brittle also. They occasionally may fall off the shelf on the stand that fits and then the heel breaks off. It's a pain.
Oh man, how did I miss that they made an Puppet Angel puppet. While James Marster acted his off in that episode, the performance from Puppet Angel was Oscar Worthy.
I wish the episodes was way longer. Really enjoy watching them.
Have a good one 🤠
Almost 40 years later, and I still remember that Xamot has the scar. :) Great video TF! Thanks!
bravo!
If they have accessories, why not bring them all at once?!?! Make it make sense
seriously
Because he doesn't really have all the accessories.
Can’t get enough of seeing what some people bring in it’s great and to also watch what they take after the trade. Can’t wait for more
@4:15 that’s cyberton galaxy prime, the bot and trailer… and the second trailer was for energon prime
gi joes are a risky investment… the people who care about those toys are getting old
Or better said. GI Joes are not an investment.
All investments require more people to be interested in the future.
Gi Joes are interesting only to middle aged men who were children in the late 80’s. That pool is smaller everyday.
@@doctorbashir3497 he’s running a business and store. everything he buys is a investment
Really...I look at ebay and see stuff I want that is actually somewhat pricey. Even stuff that has sold. And I'm not old! lol
@@doctorbashir3497 just want to say I loved g I joe figured when I was a kid in late 2000s
It's obvious people here don't know that the value of energon transformers have dramatically increased. This dealer shorted the offer
Energon and cybertron
lol, figures without parts, not complete. Good luck trying to be one of 200 sellers and on top of that paying fees, shipping, and hoping to not get a return.
Just found your channel, can’t get enough. Love the TH-cam vids but swear you could get a legit TV show deal.
I’m Major sports /Pokémon/mtg player collector, in my 20s & most of these toys are out of my age range but idc. This is so entertaining/festinating I can’t get enough.
Just feel, there’s somethitn hear for a legit tv show that people would love to watch this. Keep it up man best of luck
These guys seem fair, the guy that owns my local toy store is a con artist always trying to down play the value of items to an absolute dirtbag level! Buys extremely low & sells extremely high! Ive personally watched him lie to people about big ticket items not being worth the money & the person knows they are taking a bath on it but people take his offer because they are desperate! Not good for business & needless to say I havent been back since!
what store?
Yeah I know what you mean I just hate those fkers i experienced it once with hockey cards
they pump out so many toys now its hard to predict if anything will be worth anything. it takes a specific person to want something. or have room for it. i started the motu origins and have all of them up to date in a room that was already filled. 3grand later and im out of space and ill never be able to get rid of this stuff if i wanted to at what i paid for it
Yep, it should be personal enjoyment and display. Like you said they are pumping out toys by the tens of thousands, and great looking toys at that. We'll have land-fills full of this stuff in another 20 years. Go to Ollies and there are shelves full of toys, transformers, marvel, etc. Everything is different than it was 35 years ago when there was much smaller choice.
@@HermannTheGreat yup and even those toys from 35 years ago nobody today has any interest in them lol. my oldest toy i have is a planet of the apes catapult my dad saved from when he was a kid. i have no clue why he saved the box because he wasnt into toys cardds comics or anything. its the least looked at piece i have when i have visitors lol
Commented too early..just saw the Joes ( my favorite as a kid) i got the Sears "winter set" or something like that once and took the arms off SGT. Slaughter and put em on Spirit and would play like he was the badass Native "Billy" in Predator!
Wonder if he brought some Joe stuff in hoping to get more for it, then he'd come back with the other parts, thinking he'd get more money somehow rather than just bringing it all in , in one go
1985 tomax and xamot, Xamot has the scar on his cheek.
And for some reason that scar made Xamot one of my favorite baddies. Loved the one cartoon episode where Xamot "hooks up" with Lady Jaye and rescues Tomax. 🙂Before that was Scarface from the Marvel Comics who most likely inspired the often overlooked and very reasonably priced "Scarred Cobra Officer". COBRAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
Toy federation guy is right. I have some of those figures. They're all complete. The sellers isn't ..
Man, i want that Smile time angel Puppet
Being in Australia, i find myself pausing the video a lot and looking at what is for sale in the background that i can't buy lol 😄 would love to go thru your store
I live about 5 hours drive, and I do the same!
i know nothing about transformers. but I know everything about Gijoe. I have just about every figure in the vintage line. I use yojoe for reference when completing figures.
@toyfederation - I can’t help but think a business like this is an accountant’s nightmare. Is it hard to keep track of everything on the financial side?
You could be right. Toy collecting leads to a crazy headache. 😵💫
First is to: stick to what you like. (avoids nightmare)
Second: get rid of it when you don't. (avoids drowning in the stuff)
It isn't an accountant's nightmare. It is quite simple. There is no reason it should be anything but simple.
You track two things. Cash In and Cash Out. That is as complicated as it needs to be.
The IRS doesn't need to know what specifically was bought and sold and it could care less about how much you think you made on a single figure because it was part of a bulk buy and didn't have an individual buy price. You can track that type of stuff for yourself if you want (which is a waste of time in most cases), but as far as your accountant and the IRS care, Cash In and Cash Out on a quarterly basis are what matter.
And when I say cash, I mean money changing hands, whatever the form.
Cool vid! Gotta have those accessories! Thanks guys for another great episode!
Our pleasure!
You gotta stop rubbing your nose and touching your mouth while you're going through these things
Sorry you feel this way
@@toyfederationsorry you’re a filthy scumbag. I mean, THATS your response??
transformers is a addicting toy line i myself have bunch of boxed and sealed g1s and almost every g1 transformer made , japanese etc
These are "recent" transformers the one are expensive are g1 transformers from the 80
Yeah these ones are trash especially loose and incomplete
Toy Federation….please buy a few iPads…it will change your lives! I would go bonkers trying to stare at small phone screens all day 😂. Love the episodes!
Great video. People harp on the sellers and sure you get the occasional disappointed person but for the most part I expect adults bringing stuff in know ahead of time they are getting a re-seller offer and are probably not concerned that much about it. If you're bringing in something to sell or get store credit, it means it has lost its personal value to you. Anything you actually care about you're most likely going to be trying to sell it online somewhere. But someone out there still loves those figures you no longer do, and that's where Toy Federation steps in.
If you really want to get more for your items, you need to sell them yourself and take the time. However, if you are in a situation, where you need immediate compensation, then you are out of luck as you will be expected to lose 50% to 70% to a business. They will have to find the clients to buy it may have to sit on it for a while. Unfortunately, it is what it is.
I’m curious how they keep up with what all they have they don’t have the best inventory system and what box it’s in in the back
That Angel puppet looks dope.
I’m not a collector, but I find this fascinating.
Many people who say they are collectors and watch these videos aren't collectors either. They buy them to resell them and the videos help them figure out what to buy next time they're at a flea market.
I’d love to visit this store, super cool. I never sell, but would love to look at the Transformers!
LOve your ring tone Ryan! Probe droid.
So funny! You're literally holding the parts of the Prime together! You're right though we are in an era where the toys parts are not even the problem, but the panels on the toy ARE - example> (Transmetal Dragon Megatron R/L Foot Wheel Covers)! Also, from experience check the cracks of the bottom of the GI Joe (others too) trays, I once found a Cobra Fire Fly Walkie Talkie jammed in there!
You are the Pawn Stars of the Toy World! (In a good way!)
I bet you even dream about awesome toys..been watching awhile now..freekn luv this show/vlog/series whatever they call awesome nostalgic entertainment these days!
Remember: toy stores are like comic stores. The item you bring in, even a character that’s really popular, might sit on their shelf for months or years. Typically, if a good condition item is supposedly selling for $100, you might get $30 for them to take it off your hands. Open toys are not an investment. Also, with newer toys, it’s hard to know what will be really valuable down the line. So, if you have money to waste on this, then buy that G1 Megatron in the box for several hundred. Don’t buy 50 new Transformers today and hope for something in 30 years.
Stores offering $30 for a $100 item is why ebay and FB marketplace are taking over and physical stores are struggling/closing. Which I am all for. Physical stores had a monopoly for the longest time, offering pennies to people who had no other way to sell. Now the stores have to adapt or get run out of town.
yes ... If you are selling💵.. you are not going to get retail price if you are selling to the💸 trade🤷🏻♂️
Big thanks to all the bargain hunters and rummage sale goers for finding tons of figures and vehicles. They brought them in and it flooded the market. Bigger quantities available the lower the prices. Good time to buy. Poor time to sell.
I understand this
Some go in with the thoughts it's going to be worth more
I feel because when you look at ebay and you see what the prices are people will reflect on this
But to a toy store with experts
It's not what it seems
Great episode today. It helps to know the difference when selling open box as well as new inbox
With retail price or ebay listings you have to instantly subtract 30% in seller fees, s/h, and taxes…. Then you subtract another 20-50% from that as stores typically pay less so they can profit. That’s essentially the trade in value
@@GamingTaylor thank you kindly for sharing this with me
Many of these people don't take condition or completeness into account at all.
This is probably why I couldn’t bring my early Cinemaquette and low number Sideshows here. Love the store, and you guys are awesome though.
The smiling time Angel is pretty cool. I didnt know they made a puppet out of that episode. Great episode.
love this channel i dont even collect toys why isnt this show on tv ? pitch this to somebody dude your awesome
Same, I don’t collect, but love watching to see all the toys I once had and the ones I wish I had as a child. Great channel great job on production.
Would end up getting ruined by fake scenarios I bet. Fine as is 🙌
Yeah really. You think it would be on cable somewhere
How big is the comic selection in the store? I see at least a dozen long boxes. Any slabs or keys? If I make the trip that would be the first thing I look at. 🙂
He has bought GI Joe number #1 slabbed in another episode and the said he had several of of them
I love the state of mind we collectors have, me included. We should all get what we collect for super cheap because care so much about them, we "deserve" them and when we have them they should be worth the highest value possible. Such a classic state of mind from car collectors to toys to cards to comics to rocks. We're all the same. Please actually become a seller before you even think to critique the art of the deal.
Anyone claiming scams, if you only knew how stupid you sound, you'd stop. Its obnoxious! Start selling your precious collection and then tell us about how cheap you sold it all for. I dare you. Oh but you'll never sell right? Hahahaha! Sure.
I collect lego, it's gotta pretty set value depending on condition - probably one of the most liquid collectibles...and hell yeah - let's say I have 20 sets, worth 100 each...each sale will take a month max if im lucky, each deal will take atleast 2-3 hours in energy spent towards that deal and the exchange...that's 60 hours and even if I knock off 20, it's still a full work week only worth 2k (minus whatever I paid which is probably close to 2k) spread over a few months lol
Well, I feel like a lot of people don't understand 'how the world works' or how to run a store. lol
He owns a store/business. and has employees - all of that costs money.
The people who talk about 'scams' are just dumb and have no idea what they're talking about.
You can't go into a store and ask for $100 for a figure that's worth $100. lmao
How much should he sell the figure for then? Definitely not above the 'value.'
You should be happy if you get 50% - he has to handle all the 'work & costs.'
Of course, there are exceptions - if you come in with the 'Holy Grail,' you might get 70-90%...
In one episode, they show a 'rare' McFarlane figure - a 'mech' from the video game Titanfall 2.
The 'value' is around $300, and I got $260 for mine - because I just listed it on eBay.
In the store, I might have gotten $100, $150 for it.
For example, there's the 'Star Wars POTF2' figure series from the 90s - they produced a lot of those, and some figures in this series have countless variations.
It could be that the 'same' Luke, Darth Vader, or Stormtrooper costs $30 instead of $10 just because it's on a 'green' instead of a 'red' card.
But if you come into the store with a collection of POTF2 figures, he'll probably still only give you $5-6 for each figure and add it up - even though there are some variations and figures that can have a difference of $10, $20, $30, etc. when sold.
He himself hes so many of these figures and even tho there are variations that are worth 'more' - He will still only give you the 5-6$...
If you want to know the 'value' of your collection/figures, you should know about your collection/figures yourself or do some research. lol
And if you want to make money from it, you'll have to go to conventions and set up a booth yourself or go through the trouble of selling it all on eBay.
However, if you are in a situation, where you need immediate compensation, then you are out of luck as you will be expected to lose 50% to 70% to a business.
Thank God for Rad & Thrashin'. Although I'd love to find original bob & vincent
Love ur channel and videos, I plan to stop in sometime this winter from Florida. Making the trip up. Thanks again for the constant uploads . I look forward to these each Saturday morning.
Why does anybody think they can bamboozle this guy???
Interesting.....Toys are not an investment in most cases, a lot hold out forever to get their money back, but sadly that is not the case.....FOMO drives the prices up
The whole unicron trilogy transformers figures are so cool to mess around with. They might be chunky or funny looking, but I love finding loose ones just to fiddle with.
You have been hitting it out of the park lately TF! Thanks man for the great content!!
I appreciate that!
It kind of amazes me that when people bring in a huge haul and want to maximize the trade/cash value they don't bother to put in the extra effort of taking a couple hours to sift through and be sure to match the figure with it's accessories and weapons. This is the internet age, it doesn't take much effort to go online and see which figure came with which accessories and to even ballpark the value of what you have. Instead, you have these lazy people just dumping the figures and accessories and making everyone waste their time trying to figure out what is complete, what isn't, what it's worth, etc. Put in the extra effort, please!
Lol thats what the store is for !!! Lol
Morning all.Thanks for posting.
Don’t they know about the internet
Cool seeing some Transformers Unicron Trilogy era stuff again (Armada, Energon, Cybertron) Their Really solid Transformers toys, a golden era for engineering and value.
Energon Tidal wave even without the missiles and ramjet is still pretty valuable.
been going through my stuff lately from when I moved and it was a terrible mistake to try and seperate parts from the transformers figures. They ended up separated across several boxes.
I know I just put all the cyber keys in one bag somewhere. Very few figures would just hang on to the key. Would be nice if they all had a compartment for it.
I love Transformers. The G1 stuff is worth more than when I was collecting it in the 2000s, but I'm not sure about the Bay stuff, or Energon and Cybertron.
U just find ways for joy..... you're money back for the collection is snagging also because there's soooo many other places that rip people off but u guys never do...WE THANK U FOR THAT
80s toys have IMO topped out. I will say this I know a lot of toy dealers they are jumping all over 90s toys. I am saying this you can still find 90s toys cheep. But some are already super high like TMNT. Some are crazy high already.
are you donald trump?
@@waldofrick are you Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping?
Kevin Fiege? 😂🤣
Men and Women and children of all ages if you are a toy collector of ANY kind and you live nearby Greer S.C. like me or even if your passing through the state of South Carolina you would be doing yourself a diservice not to stop by this toy Nirvana. If not for the TH-cam channel I would never have never found out about it. I traded in some old Kenner Star Wars figures for a Transformer I have been looking for unsuccessfully for a while and it was a wonderful experience! I could of stayed in there all day but I had a four year old with me and he had a doctor's appointment so I was in a rush. Im going back as soon and as often as I can as can now that I know it's only 25 minutes away. I was blown away by the place! They have EVERYTHING!!!!-I guarantee you will love it. It's toy Shangri-La 🤖👾🤯✌️👍👍
At least they were understanding about not being complete and didn't argue with you about it. Love the shop videos with trades in them and lol 😆 my son had transformers armada toys and I grew up with transformers and lol 🤣 I couldn't transform some of them. Great toy line though and it had the first unicorn toy ever, hopefully you get one of those if you don't already have one in the shop
ANOTHER GREAT SHOW!! THANK YOU!!!❤😊
If they would have bought gold they would be rich 😂😂😂😂
Now will he come back?
No.
Another good video.
I appreciate that
Love that Portland SeaDogs Hat. Maine 207
Heck yeah! I just woke up and it’s ready to go!!’ Sweet!
If you are able always sell online whether its toys video games or whatever.A retailer/resale shop will screw you over royally and youll end up with a small fraction of what you could have gotten selling on Ebay, Amazon, Mercari ect.
We aren’t screwing anyone over
This is how all the stores work. If you want quick cash you do this.
They aren't screwing anyone over. As a business they need to make some money from each acquisition, just because something is worth $50 doesn't mean they will pay that for it. If they did they'd make no money and he out of business within months. That's how Wal-Mart operate and all retail businesses work.
I mean at the end of the day retailers need to make money so of course they will focus on getting it less than its worth as they need that profit margin. The real issue is weather you have the patience to find that right person to buy it at it's actual worth or you just want some easy quick cash.
@@Bird-Birdy-Love Your right and I've had decent experiences with retailers where they were willing to give me half of whatever it was going for online and I always believed that was fair.Ive had bad experiences though where whoever I was dealing with was only offering 20%-25% or less and those are the transactions I really regret.Thankfully I've been a trusted seller with a perfect rating online over the past 3 years.Even though there's not many things left I want to get rid of whenever I acquire something to sell I can patiently and easily deal directly with the buyer and do well even at a competitive price.
Absolutely love the content! Great shop. Keep the videos coming!
Where are you located, and do you sell online?? I'm in New Zealand 🇳🇿
South Carolina or something
That guy with the case of G.I Joes ARAH got flat out robbed! An average Joe on eBay with no weapons sells for $15 ea. Not to mention the fact that a lot of those he had were V1 figures that avg $40-$60(i.e Scarlett, Tomax, Zamot, Barbecue...etc...etc..) Yeah, so $200 for that case is highway robbery. Toy Federation re-sold those for over $1500 easily. C'mon guys, a lil bit of integrity goes a long way. You saw that guy coming a mile away.Yo Joe!
As you can see in the video, they were in rough shape, not complete, and we didn't buy them.
@@toyfederation you don't have to explain yourself. That's part of the game. If he didn't want to sell at that offer , he would have refused it.
Toy Federation FTW 🤘👍
Great episode, only place I shop at check it out if you’re in the area
Another awesome video and love the knowledge on the newer transformers
Ok, they’re not worth what the seller wants. Then why are they priced crazy, with no weapons, and expect the sellers not to get a little bothered over that shit. I have sold to toys stores in the past, just to come back and see them priced 3 to 4 times, than what I was paid for them.
Like seriously GTOH, people. Y’all way too shady with yalls comment. It’s horrible for a seller to demand close to a fair price than a low ball one, but absolutely in the right given mind for stores to price them insane. Hypocrites. Stay with the same energy.
They come to a toy store because they don't want to do the work of selling online, same with comics, cards, and other collectibles.
@@peepo1460 Especially now with the $600 limit that now applies to everybody. Nobody wants to do 1099's for clearing out some old collection.
It’s going to take another 20 years for them to reach true value
Let us know if he does come back with the other box of figures
saw you this weekend at tfcon but i was on staff with the guest so didnt have time to say hi
I most likely cannot be a toy store owner like yourself. I'm pretty sure that you guys have spent a lot of time to check each figure was complete and offered you the number and have the person say that they will think about it or bring the missing parts all together and never come back. I just don't have the patience. I would feel like I just wasted my time that I could of done something else.
But that's the reality of the business side. You need people coming in and trade in to replenish your inventory and also the person who is bringing in the toys are actually buying more than their credit.
Great videers keep em rolling!
I'm super curious why I haven't seen any mention of the Micronauts.... that was a really awesome toy line even if I maybe wasn't as successful as some others..... I'm not a collector but if I was the Micronauts would be what I would collect...
Like your vid’s keep it up
This was painful to watch.
As soon as they said that they didn't know the sword was stored there on Vector Prime and that they were learning I would've walked out. Then again when they didn't know where Commetor was on Armada Jetfire. Couldn't tell Jetfire from Cybertron Optimus from Energon Optimus from any version of Ultra Magnus. Did they even check Menasor's chest for Heavyload? They at least knew enough to check Tidal Wave's arm for Ramjet. You'd need more than ten to fifteen minutes to give a proper evaluation. And to go to someone who at least knows more than these people did.
I get that I know more as Transformers is my thing but I can price pretty much anything from any toy line out more accurately than that. Cybertron Optimus Prime even incomplete can sell for around the $120 range. So no, these figures are not "trash" like people in the comments are saying. Vector Prime with sword, missile and Safeguard is around $70. Energon Tidal Wave is around $90 even without Ramjet or the missiles. Cybertron Menasor without Heavy Load is around $80 as it's the big floppy things on his back that are the pieces mainly missing but NEEDED for the alt mode since Heavy Load is almost always in his chest. So that's the $350 before going into Cybertron Defense Red Alert & Hot Shot, Cybertron Megatron, Armada Jetfire, Energon Optimus, 2007 Optimus and whatever else they had in there. Given overhead and whatnot, a better offer would've been around $550ish just based on the Transformers. I spy Universe Fireflight, Alternators Optimus, Alternators Shockblast, Alternators Grimlock, Energon Slugslinger, Classics Cliffjumper, Classics Astrotrain, several different Animated Megatrons it looks like, Cybertron Undermine, Energon Ironhide, Energon Divebomb, Titanium Optimal Optimus, Titanium WWI Optimus, Classics Starscream, General Grievous and more. Did you even go through the entire box to see if the missing pieces were on the bottom or check that baggie? Nevermind, it should've been more around $700ish for trade in value just based on what I see for the Transformers only.
And why are you so fixated on the Cyber Keys? There's only a small handful of them that actually have any value. The Matrix key from Optimus, the special Decepticon key from Megatron and Galvatron, the key from Vector Prime and maybe the four gold bordered Planet Keys from Metroplex, Override, Evac and Scourge (who all don't seem to be there anyway). Also the Botcon and SDCC exclusive keys but there's no need to worry about those either.
Anyone calling the Unicron trilogy era figures trash knows nothing about Transformers. The people who grew up with those series are the ones now going back and collecting so prices have gone up quite a bit. It's the G1 figures that have gone down unless they're Headmaster, Powermaster or Targetmaster units or a select few other figures. Those will always have high value. The rest keep going down due to constant reissues every few years that ALWAYS go on clearance and the near endless stream of knockoffs. There's a whole new series of KOs right now that are easy to get complete with KO boxes and inserts.
You aren't wrong, and as you pointed out, your bag is the Transformers angle, and it is hard to watch someone fumble through and borderline insult when they seem to have a limited knowledge. But complete is complete. If you sell me something described as complete, I want all my keys, bibs, and bobs.
Kinda weird (and shady) he was like oh these aren’t going to be worth much I can tell ya that before he even looked at them ……and making little comments like “transformers don’t go for as much as people think” laying the groundwork ……I’ve seen this guy do quite a few questionable and dishonest things on this show ….I’m glad the guy with the gi joes was smart enough to walk away from that lowball offer he gave him
It's pretty wild to think that back when Cybertron had ended only like a year or two earlier, I was able to snag the Japanese versions of Prime, Wing Saber and Leobreaker for like $100. But yeah, the toys of that era are far from "trash". If anything, in some ways they were better than what we have now!
@@AgtWashingtub Also this. If something is advertised as complete, it _should_ be complete. The Hasbro Cyber Keys are actually a bit worse since they have unique codes on them which makes them specific for each figure!
anyone that puts this much time into a youtube post doesn't have a job and is supported by his mom......but hey, gives you more time to talk smack and play with your toys.
@@rlfmichiganOh that's real cute. What next, you gonna call him a fat virgin, too?
I have a lot of Dino Riders and they are worth a lot and 100% complete
Awesome video
That stuff looks like a bit of my collection. that was galaxy force optimus trailier and the links optimus trailer. i forget what that is call in 'merica What is a binaltech -17 wonderfest exclusive worth? i have 4 of them.
Great stuff