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Thought mana was meant to be a resource. Guess its just there now to look pretty

My English is not that good, but let me see if i understood the main idea: Always 5cps in rupture 3cps in SnD Expose depends on the time left in rupture

Extremely useful, thank you so much.

xd ele op

Chain Lighting is now only -50% cooldown.

Guess im rerolling?

bahahaha. i love it. mongoose bite procs when they dodge, and the set bonus also makes it so it procs when they dodge/parry/you miss as well......other set bonus is that in decreases targets chance to dodge, and decreases your chance to miss when you hit them with mongoose bite.....ummm wtf? entirely contradictory.

Fucking glad i quit when they nerfed melee hunter in phase 3 "diminished" they said. Fuck this garbage game world of warcraft.

Its already nerfed to 50%

Jeez guy those are pretty simple words honestly. "Ah dur idk this word cant be bothered to google"

I quit sod yesterday and unsub, as main hunter I was hyped since phase 1, but the poor class and rune design after phase 2 made me sick of the game, melee hunter is dead in phase 4 after I invested so much time and effort into it. I've been very patient with all nerfs hunter got but this on is too many now. Especially when you look at other class who gets sick runes / class changes like shamans (shaman are going to kill pvp in phase 4 just like they did in phase 3). Hunter is gonna be by far the worst class to play in phase 4 sod.

Level 28, first rouge..went assassination first and although mutilate is wonderful, i switched to sub and its so much more fun for me. Quick in and out of stealth, one or two shot everything. Not much of a pvper or dungeon runner atm so we will see

if ele stays like it is a lot of alliance are going to quit.

pretty sure no one is sleeping on ele sham…

The no chain lightning rune is going to bring enhacement up there on the cleave damage fights. Im already getting 3 procs before chain lightning resets now itll just be this giant duel wielding minotaur with lightning flying everywhere!

thank god there is a way to sustain the mana lost from spaming.

did they really make shaman even more powerful? oh my god the forums are going to go nuclear

I'm sure shamans will find this so fun meanwhile everyone else is saying how stupid this is.

Honestly, this is the ele shaman class fantasy and if they can somehow get it balanced, I think it's perfect. They're harnessing all the elements of the earth, it should be a chaotic storm of bullshit.

Enhance shaman when on lich king is best imo... they add this flame wheel ability which does an aoe off of each flame shocked target so just sit and melee and flame shock everything and spam flame wheel while also meleeing

listen i main a shaman... but at this point it feels like a meme how op they make us. Then they also have to make paladins equally op, when all along we were supposed to just be the pseudo-support (bard) class...

I don't understand who the fuck thinks this is a good design? It'll kill the game

i was the warlock linking recount dmg nice dps btw <3

Nice one...got me hyped!

They fucked melee hunter here. Hope they fix it before it goes live.

Ele is going to be insane.

they are making all our rotations so complex and complicated its crazy and steady shot just rots why bother even putting a rune in for it how many freaking key binds do I need to play my class this is not fun

Good stuff man :)

Meanwhile ranged is gonna have free traps with nearly half as much cooldown and trap damage that scales to your ap. So there's hardly gonna be a need for steady shot or aimed shot, freeing up a rune slot and a talent point (if you even wanted aimed shot). They've been buffing ranged for months while slowly taking away things for melee. We should have seen this coming.

Crimson Tempest was added in WoD but Blunderbuss was a Legion Outlaw rogue artifact trait. Pretty much an empowered proc of your pistol shot that was a builder + stun.

I'm totally disappointed with the new hunter runes and changes.

Good balancing blizz. Just remove the spec already if you don't know how to balance

phase 1-3: play melee hunter. phase 4: play ranged hunter. I love the illusion of choice in this game xD

It seems like with hit and run and the new wyvern strike rune, there's gonna be a return to melee/ranged weaving in survival spec and a 2h.

Feels really bad man. I really invested in melee hunter and played it since the start of p1 and not I just feel silly since I can’t play it at max level.

I like the idea they have here with adding runes to accommodate and differentiate DW/2H builds but they missed the mark. Wyvern strike seems cool and it would make SV hunter classic melee weaving (or range weaving now) viable but the skill isnt worth taking over dw spec. They should give WS a unique debuff and maybe up the damage a bit. Would be cool to see hit and run reworked completely.. ie give us fugging disengage already!!! Id rather run the trap runes with that type of build as well as kill shot. Cool stuff and it is definitely more of my idea of a melee hunter from the beginning of all this.

kippzo back again with the high quality rogue content. does he ever miss?

Was hoping for being able to rogue tank with sword... if they dont change rogue tank more, it wont be a thing. And Fan of knives dont do enought threat without T1 2set bonus, So useless without.

If you read the blue post you would see melee hunters are also getting wyvern strike if talented into wyvern sting, chimera shot resets wyvern strikes cooldown as well. I believe thats why they added hit and run to weave in some range shots.

Saddly Saber Slash gets gutted, rip sword rogues

I think your analysis is spot on. A few things to note: 1) That hit and run rune is meant for the 2H Survival Hunter who has to range weave with chimera shot (which ironically, is currently bugged). 2) I suspect that they are going to turn 2H hunter into the Nightfall spec for casters. 3) If they don't give melee hunters a raid buff/debuff/utility then people will bring Trueshot aura. It's that simple. The success and failure of melee hunter hinges on that one simple fact. Because otherwise you will stack the raid with 20 warriors and bring 2 Trueshot Aura hunters. Yawn. Boring. As a suggestion I propose the following: Melee Hunters need a raid/dps "aspect" which feels less meme than aspect of the hawk to slightly boost your pet's dmg anyway... Give us an aspect that gives us and our parties the feral druid 3% crit buff (not stacking of course). Feral druids will love this because then they can play Omen of Clarity if there isn't a melee hunter in their group.

Where is CoS ? 😢

THats great melee hunter was too OP, number 1 on the damage meter statistics, high above everyone else.

In SoD, there's a poison for everything. Reduce armor? Poison. Take more spell damage? Poison. Increased mount speed? Poison. Hearthstone on cooldown? Poison. Someone competing with you on the auction house? Poison. Want guild prio for first Thunderfury? Yup, poison.

Did I hear that right? Rogues have an option of 4 AOE's?

I’m going swords 🗡. I want those dal rends

game is trash like all of you

Post feedback on the ptr forums brothers

Melee hunter was fine, but those devs had to f it up.

sir how to play the PTR ? do i need to download it ?