also to back up the fact that she is a princess: out of all colours she wears purple a color that has always been linked with royalty due to the difficulty of accessing such pigments. I believe there was a sumptuary law about the wear of the color purple in antiquity I know there was such laws in roman era but I 'm not sure about greece.
it is because the natural dye is extracted from certain sea snails and it is really long and really rare to produce now tyrian purple is a little bit more red than Megara's purple but bright colors were still a mark of wealth in ancient greece
I not only agree with you Fangirl but my mind has burst with an even bigger theory to add. Megara was the princess of Thebes but had a rebellious nature and didn't want airhead friends who would use her. She fell in love with a commoner and prayed to their goddess Apotrophia (which is a byname for Aphrodite the Goddess of love and this other name was believed to be instituted by Harmonia the goddess of harmony) for a way for them to be together. Through a dream, the King was told to give the boy a challenge that he would win a hand in marriage with the princess if successful. While trying to complete this challenge the boy was gravely injured. Desperate for a way to save him, she turned to Hades against the goddess's advice. Hades offered to bring the commoner back to life in exchange for Meg becoming a servant. She agreed on the condition that after the sentence she would be able to go home. When telling the commoner he promised to wait for her. But over time the Kingdom became restless with the princess's absence and the lack of a royal wedding. Feeling the King went back on his word the commoners turn on him and even the goddess they worshipped. Bitter about being tied to a woman he could not have, the commoner boyfriend turns to another girl. The broken-hearted king dies from sadness and stress and the other children move away wanting nothing to do with a broken kingdom. The high-class citizens pray to Aphrodite for help but the commoners reject her. In fury, Aphrodite curses the commoners which is why Thebes was so messed up in the movie yet there were well kept rich buildings in the more developed areas (like the villa where Hercules went to live with his trainer after defeating the hydra). Worse I think the curse followed these citizens until they repented for turning on Aphrodite and Meg's love. Which came full circle when Hercules came along because he was Meg's, fated new love. Accepting him broke the curse after the hydra was defeated. Also, I think people in his old village might have treated him badly because since he was adopted and troublesome (by accident). They might have feared he came from Thebes and was therefore cursed to bring disaster.
@@mimull1378 In mythology, Achilles Was made immortal, but his ankles did him in. So maybe she made a deal, but she didn't read the fine print on the deal she made, and he still ended up dying at the end!
I agree. She's the only one I can recall to have any type of history. Most other Disney female leads sprouted to life when their boyfriend appeared and 90% of their existence is based on their relationship. I like having at least one lady to show that sometimes love doesn't go as planned!
In the series, Meg states that she went on a blind date with him and even though she hated him, she couldn't stop thinking about him, which is why she wanted water from the River Lethe (She mentions this to Hercules right before admitting that she likes him and goes to kiss him).
I always thought that maybe Hades sent his henchmen to pretend they were a pretty girl just like they did to pegasus to lure the man away so that way Hades had full control of Meg so that way she was always in the place he needed her to be
Hercules and Megara actually had three sons together, but thanks to a trick by Hera, Hercules ended up killing her and their three children, Hercules then had to complete a set of trials to atone it. the last one being to kill Hades pet three headed hell hound Cerberus. the disney version is better for children, but I wish they had stuck more to the original story of the fact that Hercules was born from only his father Zeus and Hera should have been the bad guy, just Hades.
@Katelyn Lewis In the original myth, Hercules' mom was not Hera, but the mortal woman we see being his adoptive mother at the beginning of the movie. Zeus got around quite a lot, and Hercules was raised by his mortal mother and her husband. Hera, not Hades, had it out for Hercules because Zeus cheated on her (the same way she had it out for all his illegitimate children) even though Alcmene and Amphytrion named the boy after her (Hercules is the Roman spelling; Herakles means "Glory of Hera") to try and alleviate her anger it did no good. When Hercules grew up and married Megara, and had children with her, Hera cursed him to go mad and kill them all - the Twelve Labors were a punishment for his murder of his family (even though Hera caused it).
I have always thought that Hades actually used pain and panic to seduce Meg's boyfriend because Hades is a shady deal maker (like the stereotypical, cartoonist car salesman). He does not play fair and normally, when not under pressure, will only make deals that will always benefit himself in the end.
I always loved Mythology especially the Greek ones. While I’m not a fan of Disney version of Hercules, because of how poorly they represented it, I still favored it and it’s what got me to love the world of myths and fantasy. Since Disney has been remaking their old movies into live action films, I really hope they make a live action movie of Hercules and make it more canon to the original story line. Ps, while I’m not a fan of the Disney trope of evil step mothers, in this case I would make an accption because Hera was Hercules step mother and she didn’t like him!
That would be an interesting live action movie, but I have a feeling that Disney won’t do that due to all the other Hercules films. Or, they’ll make a movie just like the animated film! 😆
@@cosmok-1367 Actually to make Hera’s character more 3 dimensional, maybe make her hate Hercules but at the same time make her feel some pity for him as it is technically not his fault that Zeus cheated on her again for the who knows how many times.
Honestly, Meg's situation in the movie reminds me of a character in a book series I'm reading. In the series, said character (Della Tsang) had a boyfriend who left her and got engaged to someone else three months later. Because of this, as well as some family drama, Della was afriad of relying on anyone else for fear that they too would turn their backs on her. Della's boyfriend left her because she was turned into a vampire (He didn't know that) and as a result, her skin became perpetually cold. He told her to come back to him when she warms up again, and left.
@@jaylineskaggs5609 the series is called Shadow Falls. The first five books introduce the main character, Kylie, to Shadow Falls, which is a camp. The next three cover Della's situation following the events of the first five, the ninth one covers their other friend Miranda, and the tenth is a collection of short stories on most of the different characters. Good read, and one I seriously recommend you check out.
The books, in order, are: Born at Midnight Awake at Dawn Taken at Dusk Whispers at Moonrise Chosen at Nightfall Reborn Eternal Unspoken Midnight Hour Almost Midnight
Some SAY it was Adonis from the Hercules series but I don't think that's the case. When she mentions Adonis being her ex in the series it's more of a gag that their horrible date was enough to make her want to get the magic amphora with water that makes you forget. She clearly didn't love Adonis at all, definitely no where near enough to sell her soul to save his life. My headcanon is that it might have been Achilles or a different hero. Hear me out. If she was in love with a man who she looked at as her hero (someone she thought would always love her and defend her) and he left her high and dry, it would make her affection for the selfless Hercules mean even more.
I think Hades scared the boyfriend off. I would be kinda freaked out too if the King of the Underworld (Not god of death, that's Thanatos) was always around.
The theory that Meg stopped aging and is actually really old makes sense since no one in Thebes was like “Hey isn’t that princess Megra who’s soul now belong to Hades?”
I love your videos! Honestly my favorite thing about how you do your channel is that you find ways to get your children involved in thinking about these theories. You keep them questioning things that they can seek and discover!
@@TheFangirlWatches Your welcome keep up the amazing work I may tell people to check your channel out on my new live stream that I can finally do again
There is in an episode of Meg in the animated series with the after "honeymoon" when they move into their new home. Meg found Hercules yearbook from high school and then we get a few clips from the past like flashbacks and that was basically it
One thing that you don't touch on is the fact that the mystery babe shows up right when she did. It would not surprise me if Hades brought her to them to break them apart so he could have meg without any loose ends.
All the episode with Meg did it right. She was in two. The first one was a spoof on James Bond. Hercules as James and Meg was the bond girl. Yet they were both teens then. She worked for Hades even then. But something happened and forgetful potion falls on them when they about to kiss if I recall. They all "eww who are you.." "eww bye" They walk away. So the potion finally worked in full, so when the film took place they didn't even recall that moment. When they were grossed out at their about to kiss yourselfs. And the 2nd was the final episode. All of the series was Herc telling his new bride Meg about his teen years. Which is funny, for you think that one epi would ring a bell "OH! So you were the girl I meet in my teen years huh?" who say that did not... As final epi could not cover all their reactions for each epi/story he was retelling.
The Fangirl I loved the series rushed home after school to never miss an epi! They also did one of the first crossovers too! Hades and Jafar worked together as he died and went to the underworld. Becoming BFF complaining about their hero problems and make a bet to take down the others. Also Acres was hitting on Jaz and she was all “ am married!” So the crossover can be cannon to since the final in the series was the wedding lol
actually there is a mention of a king during when Hercules was getting painted for a vase, Phil says “you have a meeting with king (I forgot the name) later today” so there is no seeing of him but there is a small mention in the film that most people don’t see
@@TheFangirlWatches It would have to be someone connected to that timeline (going by the Disney Universe theory here). I figured Eric at first, but there's too much contradiction, same with Aladdin and Naveen. Like, what Disney character could be considered a playboy?
People SAY it was Adonis from the Hercules series but honestly it seems unlikely. When she mentions Adonis being her ex in the series it's more of a gag that their horrible date was enough to make her want to get the magic amphora with water that makes you forget. She clearly didn't love Adonis at all, definitely no where near enough to sell her soul to save his life.
Thanatos was death, hades was just the god of the underworld. The only one who could have made a deal like that was Thanatos. He's the actual god of death.
Hades and Thanatos were more or less the same characters at times. In Euripides "Alcestis" Hades is described as ‘dark cloaked and winged’ and confirms that Hades and Thanatos were the same god, and there are a plethora of stories that mention Hades getting attacked while simply doing his job as the god of death. Hades also had a title that refers to him as "god of death and darkness" ("Hesperos Theos") and even the ancient authors make it clear that they don't especially distinguish between the two figures. Moreover, as the King of the Underworld, only Hades had the authority to bring back someone from the dead, trying to do so without his permission was one of the ways to capture his wrath.
@@damarislopez5842 If you paid attention to what I wrote, you'd know that the ancient authors did not distinguish between Hades and Thanatos. Euripides' "Alcestis" confirms this when Alcestis dies and a ‘dark cloaked and winged’ Hades comes to retrieve her soul, prompting Herakles to get into a fight with him, ultimately making Hades give her up and restore her to life. Apollodorus likewise mentions that Herakles had to fight Hades in order to be allowed to restore Alcestis' soul to her body. In another story, Hades is sent by Zeus to retrieve King Sisyphus' soul. Stealthily King Sisyphus asked Hades why Hermes, whose job was to escort shades to the Underworld, had not come for him. Because Hades was busy trying to come up with an answer, he was unaware that chains were being placed around him until it was too late. As long as Hades was tied up, nobody could die. Because of this, sacrifices could not be made to the gods, and those that were old and sick were suffering. The gods finally threatened to make life so miserable for Sisyphus that he would wish he were dead. He then had no choice but to release Hades.
Makes perfect sense! Also, I like to concider her a princess anyway, since the Zeus is the king of the gods, that makes Herc a prince and Meg a princess! She deserves to be included in the franchise IMO. That might be a stretch, but so is Pocahontas, a chief's daughter, then... :)
I'd like to politely correct the whole "Underworld after death" comment you made. Yes, everyone went to the Underworld upon death; however, that was to have their souls judged to see where they would spend the afterlife. If you were a good person, you went to the Elysian Fields aka Heaven. If you were bad, you went to Tartarus, where wicked souls and the Titans were kept.
Very cool! ^_^ I've also got the headcanon that after Meg made the deal to get the dude, Hades orchestrated the introduction of the 'babe' so he would leave her. Maybe to ensure he gained a minion in the deal?
Lovely theory as always, but I have another topic for you: where is Persephone in all of this? She’s supposed to be in the underworld every fall and winter yet she’s no where to be found. And does she know about Megara? Would she feel jealous of her? Food for thought.
According to the mythology, at that time Creon wasn't king yet, it was Œdipe, as he was a siner (killed his father and married his mother without Knowing who they were) so the gods punished Thebes with desasters and diseases unitl that siner shows up. If you want to know more, read Antigone by Sophocle, or a much modern version by Jean Anouille but it's not as rich as the original one ☺
River styx, the place where, in mythology, dead dreams go to be forgotten. Dreams as in ambitions. In the disney version it's the river where dead souls go to be forgotten. When you think of it, neither version is that different from the other. However, the river didn't become the place for forgotten ambitions until humans came along. Before humans it was once a beautiful river with nectar flowing through it. Now it's poluted with forgetten dreams and regret
By the looks of that magical blue dust or something, it looks like her “man” left her because of the other girl’s looks, and if you look at the girl he went to, it looked like she looked at him to make him know she’s not with anyone or I don’t know, like if you agree
Maybe the king was de throned somehow after the royal family broke apart when they disowned Meg for the Hades situation and that’s part of the reason why Thebes is so chaotic when we see it in the film? Or maybe seeing his daughter get into a situation like that broke his heart, he couldn’t continue to rule and there were no heirs, again leaving Thebes with no government?
Hi so I got question about Coraline if the other mother feeds of children energy than why didn’t she take the ghosts girls sister or twin it would make her more energy why not take her twin to the other world to idk if your already done this theory before but I searched it and I don’t think you have anyway if you see this comment and make a video about it you don’t have to but if you can look into it that would be great anyway that’s all I got bye!
If Meg was immortal while working for Hades, that would make sense why Hades was so cavalier about this caveat Hercules introduced when striking their deal (that she wouldn't get hurt when he gave up his strength). But then she DOES get hurt. Why? Does trying to save Hercules count as a sufficient betrayal of her "contract" with Hades, thereby making her susceptible to mortal wounds? Was Hades desperate enough to overlook this loophole, or just too frantic and caught up to even think about it?
I love your theory, but I shave to wonder; if in fact her deal with Hades made her immortal, the moment Hades released is it possible she’s mortal now and her body might rapidly age to keep up with all the years that have past, or maybe she’s just gonna start aging like a normal human now
Hi, I made it to the end of the video! If you haven't done this already, could you make a theory about the live action Scooby Doo films, and by that I mean just the first two live action films, because I want you to figure out how these connect.
Hades' psychics could've tricked the guy that they were meg and transformed into Hercules then practiced their speech in a girly voice for the ex boyfriend INTENTIONALLY while the ex was hiding and had seen everything 😜
Pretty sure Megara is also one of the 2 wifes Hercules had. Also although told through mythology everyone goes to the underworld, this still is divided into seperate parts 1 for the real goodie goodies, 1 for the normal citizen (it is told your memories of earth will be taken so you won't be tight to any earthly burdens) and there is the part where you get tortured by the furies for eternity. Greek Mythology yay!
Well actually its one hundred percent possible to retrieve an already dead person from the underworld. Orpheus (son of Calliope and goddess of poets and musicians) almost did retrieve his true love from the underworld. He charmed Hades and Persephone into letting him try and retrieve Eurydice(Orpheus's love) from the dead. The only reason why he failed was because he looked back at Eurydice to make sure that she was still following him against Hades wishes. Also in the myth about the princess that Meg(in the movie) is based off of her love died so she became a servant to Hades to get him back.
Maybe the guy was a prince of lower status OR from a rival country and was killed in battle once Meg found out she sold her soul for him to come back only for him to run off once gaining the fame and as well as the credit as a warrior having his parents find a fit a suitor who was better than a Meg (ie: A women of greater status/ or a women with better connections to their allies) with that motives as well as his parents approval he ran off to get married to her no longer seeing the value in having Meg by his side knowing that being with her was more of a risk than being with another woman
Rose is not complex, she's a spoiled selfish narcissistic brat with sociopathic tendencies. She liked her new toys and ran away from her responsibility.
Yes shes complex but I'm just saying shes not a good character. The diamonds are nazis, well she would be a Nazi who ran away and married her victim. Sorry I'm just not a fan of her character, Rebecca sugar likes to make abusers sympathetic.
Maybe she was a princess. I think she was betrothed. So she was going to marry a guy. But he didnt want her. :( he wanted somebody else that was prettier than her. He was sick or something. Made a deal with Hattie's and he was healed and the guy just did what he wanted. The end.
Interesting coincidence, but...Meg McCaffrey in Rick Riordan's series The Trials of Apollo is another demigod, and was manipulated by her stepfather Nero in much the same way, killing her father and forcing her to turn to him. Plus, they have the same name...
I agree with your theory that she may be a lot older than we may think. Look at the style of her dress,I don't recall anyone else wearing anything similar.
Actually, the 2 Megara episodes from the series are canon. They were released as a direct to video sequel to the movie. So while all the tv cartoon series may not be canon, these are.
What if she ran away from being a princess and her boyfriend just got disinterested in her and left her for another rich/well known family. He is running after anothing girl after all.
The creature that attacked Meg could be Meg's boyfriend. He wanted her back since there was nothing else for him to do. I guess he turned into some kind of beast of his actions because of what he has done. I am sorry for forgetting the name. This is my theory.
While this does sound lovely, the monster is just a simple river guardian named Nessus. Hades sent Meg to recruit Nessus for his Underworld army and as his payment, Nessus wanted Meg to be his lover. Meg kept refusing but Nessus kept being persistent and that's when Herc came in
Thanks Juliana! I don't think Hades really cared about Meg, but I think she was like the 1 competent employee at the office, so he didn't really want to lose her either.
The thing is though, Hercules states that he wants to live on earth so he can be with Meg. It's actually mentioned on IMDB that Hercules didn't actually give up his immortality (mainly because it's impossible), and that in a would-have-been sequel, it was revealed that the goddess Hebe was their daughter.
@@ashleighmilosevich8566 You're thinking of Hedone, the Goddess of pleasure, enjoyment, and delight. She was the daughter of Eros and Psyche. Hebe, the goddess of youth and brides, was the daughter of Zeus and Hera in the original mythology. Herakles married her after he became a god, and it was Hera's way of showing that she no longer bore a grudge against her stepson (Herakles befriended Hera by saving her from Porphyrion, a giant who tried to rape her during the Gigantomachy).
@@cthonisprincess4011 guess that it would have changed version to version. The tales were told orally so it's very possible we heard the same story just with different details.
PLOT TWIST: The girl figure was gay that had his body transformed into female by Aphrodite, once Meg's ex boyfriend find out he felt invited to have himself transformed into the same womanly figure as he felt threatened between Meg's beauty and the gay's female body transformation. He had been wanting to look like Megara but afraid to tell her 😍😍😍😍😂
I totally loved your content and desire to look for something deeper than just a simple assumption. Specially that im a crwzy fan of this movie and specially megara. Gosh i was akid when i watched this movie and now im 33 and still following this movie. Megara's character just captured me so bad
lol I’m right there with you! I think I was like 12 when Hercules came out and OOOOOHHHH I just loved it so much! Even the McDonald’s toys were so cool!
what if Meg was convinced she was Aromantic (if you dont know what that is it's you don't feel romantic attraction) and once she felt attracted to someone for the first time she thought it was true love.so she sold her soul. but then when he left she swore she would never love a man KEYWORD MAN again. Maybe being a princess and LGBTQ was wrong and she decided to try women. her parents might have found her with women and disowned her so she was fully Hades. But she is always sassy with hades and hades always get mad at her. he could have easily tortured her but maybe just maybe he fell in love with her so he dint want to hurt her. and would rather see her dead and spend eternity with him than be with Hercules so he killed her and she went to the underworld did that make any sense?
This was answered in the series guys.. The popular jock dude from the Hercules series left Megera for that popular girl with blonde hair in the series. It is revealed!!!!
Lol I think there were 3! Riker, Deana Troy, and Worf. I probably spelled all those wrong, but my dad and I had a running gag that this is where all TNG actors were put out to pasture. 😂
I don’t believe that meg was a princess just due to her name sense before the labors Heracles (Hercules) was married to a woman named Megera and they had kids, he then killed them under the influence of hera but that’s another story. I think they chose the name because Heracles was married to a woman with the same name. (Just my opinion)
also to back up the fact that she is a princess: out of all colours she wears purple a color that has always been linked with royalty due to the difficulty of accessing such pigments. I believe there was a sumptuary law about the wear of the color purple in antiquity I know there was such laws in roman era but I 'm not sure about greece.
I knew it was generally a royal color, but I didn’t know that extended to Greece or that laws might be in place about it! That’s incredible!
it is because the natural dye is extracted from certain sea snails and it is really long and really rare to produce now tyrian purple is a little bit more red than Megara's purple but bright colors were still a mark of wealth in ancient greece
fun fact: it's also the reason why most countries have no purple on their flag
Yes this is correct. In my church my teacher said once that purple was very rare in fabric and that anyone who wore it would be considered rich
Along the Lane ding ding ding!!!!
I not only agree with you Fangirl but my mind has burst with an even bigger theory to add. Megara was the princess of Thebes but had a rebellious nature and didn't want airhead friends who would use her. She fell in love with a commoner and prayed to their goddess Apotrophia (which is a byname for Aphrodite the Goddess of love and this other name was believed to be instituted by Harmonia the goddess of harmony) for a way for them to be together. Through a dream, the King was told to give the boy a challenge that he would win a hand in marriage with the princess if successful. While trying to complete this challenge the boy was gravely injured. Desperate for a way to save him, she turned to Hades against the goddess's advice. Hades offered to bring the commoner back to life in exchange for Meg becoming a servant. She agreed on the condition that after the sentence she would be able to go home.
When telling the commoner he promised to wait for her. But over time the Kingdom became restless with the princess's absence and the lack of a royal wedding. Feeling the King went back on his word the commoners turn on him and even the goddess they worshipped. Bitter about being tied to a woman he could not have, the commoner boyfriend turns to another girl. The broken-hearted king dies from sadness and stress and the other children move away wanting nothing to do with a broken kingdom. The high-class citizens pray to Aphrodite for help but the commoners reject her.
In fury, Aphrodite curses the commoners which is why Thebes was so messed up in the movie yet there were well kept rich buildings in the more developed areas (like the villa where Hercules went to live with his trainer after defeating the hydra). Worse I think the curse followed these citizens until they repented for turning on Aphrodite and Meg's love. Which came full circle when Hercules came along because he was Meg's, fated new love. Accepting him broke the curse after the hydra was defeated. Also, I think people in his old village might have treated him badly because since he was adopted and troublesome (by accident). They might have feared he came from Thebes and was therefore cursed to bring disaster.
You need to make this theory! That would be incredible!
Agreed! I'd love to see this as a video or something!!!
I accept this!
wow amazing 👍
So, technically Meg is a Disney princess? Deal. Headcanon accepted.
Happy to help make that a reality. Actually, I think Meg was briefly in the Disney Princess franchise for a bit.
Remember herc is technically a Prince as his birth parents are the king and queen of the gods.
@@davidmiller9488 ah, that works too.
aw, dang! i think it would have been nice to see her in 3d in the ralph breaks the internet movie
@@davidmiller9488 they never got married tho
Meg's dad, mom, and Hades disliked
^Best comment today! lol
@@TheFangirlWatches thanks
Omg
I like Hades
"Weak ankles..." 😂yep that caused the ex boyfriends death for sure xD
I’d believe it!
achillies?? that would be pretty amazing, philoctetes does mention him...
@@mimull1378 In mythology, Achilles Was made immortal, but his ankles did him in. So maybe she made a deal, but she didn't read the fine print on the deal she made, and he still ended up dying at the end!
Yes
Nice, I always found Meg one of the most interesting Disney characters
I agree. She's the only one I can recall to have any type of history. Most other Disney female leads sprouted to life when their boyfriend appeared and 90% of their existence is based on their relationship. I like having at least one lady to show that sometimes love doesn't go as planned!
In the TV series, Meg was dumped by prince Adonis when he hooked up with Helen (of troy).
In the series, Meg states that she went on a blind date with him and even though she hated him, she couldn't stop thinking about him, which is why she wanted water from the River Lethe (She mentions this to Hercules right before admitting that she likes him and goes to kiss him).
@@cthonisprincess4011 The water from that river makes someone forget.
“Something must have happened to the boyfriend”
Diarrhea. 100%
I always thought that maybe Hades sent his henchmen to pretend they were a pretty girl just like they did to pegasus to lure the man away so that way Hades had full control of Meg so that way she was always in the place he needed her to be
In the mythology of Hercules, megera was one of the two wife's of herc and gave her a child. This is a pretty good theory fangirl!
I think she’s also the one Hercules killed because of Hera.
Hercules and Megara actually had three sons together, but thanks to a trick by Hera, Hercules ended up killing her and their three children, Hercules then had to complete a set of trials to atone it. the last one being to kill Hades pet three headed hell hound Cerberus. the disney version is better for children, but I wish they had stuck more to the original story of the fact that Hercules was born from only his father Zeus and Hera should have been the bad guy, just Hades.
@Katelyn Lewis In the original myth, Hercules' mom was not Hera, but the mortal woman we see being his adoptive mother at the beginning of the movie. Zeus got around quite a lot, and Hercules was raised by his mortal mother and her husband. Hera, not Hades, had it out for Hercules because Zeus cheated on her (the same way she had it out for all his illegitimate children) even though Alcmene and Amphytrion named the boy after her (Hercules is the Roman spelling; Herakles means "Glory of Hera") to try and alleviate her anger it did no good. When Hercules grew up and married Megara, and had children with her, Hera cursed him to go mad and kill them all - the Twelve Labors were a punishment for his murder of his family (even though Hera caused it).
@@ThornHaliwell6523 He didn't have to kill him, just bring it to some king because he wanted to see it.
I have always thought that Hades actually used pain and panic to seduce Meg's boyfriend because Hades is a shady deal maker (like the stereotypical, cartoonist car salesman). He does not play fair and normally, when not under pressure, will only make deals that will always benefit himself in the end.
Nah, given the way he sounded even he was disgusted at what he did.
I really think they should make a movie about megera
I always loved Mythology especially the Greek ones. While I’m not a fan of Disney version of Hercules, because of how poorly they represented it, I still favored it and it’s what got me to love the world of myths and fantasy. Since Disney has been remaking their old movies into live action films, I really hope they make a live action movie of Hercules and make it more canon to the original story line. Ps, while I’m not a fan of the Disney trope of evil step mothers, in this case I would make an accption because Hera was Hercules step mother and she didn’t like him!
That would be an interesting live action movie, but I have a feeling that Disney won’t do that due to all the other Hercules films. Or, they’ll make a movie just like the animated film! 😆
The Fangirl either way, it would still be awesome!
@@cosmok-1367 Actually to make Hera’s character more 3 dimensional, maybe make her hate Hercules but at the same time make her feel some pity for him as it is technically not his fault that Zeus cheated on her again for the who knows how many times.
Honestly, Meg's situation in the movie reminds me of a character in a book series I'm reading. In the series, said character (Della Tsang) had a boyfriend who left her and got engaged to someone else three months later. Because of this, as well as some family drama, Della was afriad of relying on anyone else for fear that they too would turn their backs on her. Della's boyfriend left her because she was turned into a vampire (He didn't know that) and as a result, her skin became perpetually cold. He told her to come back to him when she warms up again, and left.
Dennie's Story what book is this
@@jaylineskaggs5609 the series is called Shadow Falls. The first five books introduce the main character, Kylie, to Shadow Falls, which is a camp. The next three cover Della's situation following the events of the first five, the ninth one covers their other friend Miranda, and the tenth is a collection of short stories on most of the different characters. Good read, and one I seriously recommend you check out.
The books, in order, are:
Born at Midnight
Awake at Dawn
Taken at Dusk
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She also reminds me of Denna from "The Name of the Wind"
I wonder who Meg’s boyfriend is.
They revealed it in Hercules the series
Glitter Bud the series was years ago.
I thought it was weird that this guy is such a huge part of Meg’s backstory, yet they show no hint of him in the film.
Some SAY it was Adonis from the Hercules series but I don't think that's the case. When she mentions Adonis being her ex in the series it's more of a gag that their horrible date was enough to make her want to get the magic amphora with water that makes you forget. She clearly didn't love Adonis at all, definitely no where near enough to sell her soul to save his life.
My headcanon is that it might have been Achilles or a different hero. Hear me out. If she was in love with a man who she looked at as her hero (someone she thought would always love her and defend her) and he left her high and dry, it would make her affection for the selfless Hercules mean even more.
It's herkules
I relate to hades on how he said “HE’S A GUY”
And then I’m meg too because of reasons.
Great video! Meg is one of my favorite characters! I’ve always wanted to learn more about her! ❤️
I think Hades scared the boyfriend off. I would be kinda freaked out too if the King of the Underworld (Not god of death, that's Thanatos) was always around.
The theory that Meg stopped aging and is actually really old makes sense since no one in Thebes was like “Hey isn’t that princess Megra who’s soul now belong to Hades?”
I love your videos! Honestly my favorite thing about how you do your channel is that you find ways to get your children involved in thinking about these theories. You keep them questioning things that they can seek and discover!
I'm watching this at school
You get extra fandom points then! 💕
Yay
I watched it too!
You did a great job on this video I didn't think oh Meg like that
So glad you approve! :)
@@TheFangirlWatches Your welcome keep up the amazing work I may tell people to check your channel out on my new live stream that I can finally do again
What if Hades was responsible somehow for the boyfriend leaving? So that he had Meg to do his bidding without interference from the boyfriend?
I don't know, it kind of seems that even Hades didn't like the fact that her boy friend dumped her.
There is in an episode of Meg in the animated series with the after "honeymoon" when they move into their new home. Meg found Hercules yearbook from high school and then we get a few clips from the past like flashbacks and that was basically it
One thing that you don't touch on is the fact that the mystery babe shows up right when she did. It would not surprise me if Hades brought her to them to break them apart so he could have meg without any loose ends.
I have ZERO problem believing the "chasing new tail" story. I give Disney points for putting that thread in the movie.
Saw this movie a hundred times, never thought Meg was immortal but what you said makes complete sense. Glad I watched.
All the episode with Meg did it right.
She was in two.
The first one was a spoof on James Bond. Hercules as James and Meg was the bond girl.
Yet they were both teens then. She worked for Hades even then. But something happened and forgetful potion falls on them when they about to kiss if I recall.
They all "eww who are you.." "eww bye" They walk away. So the potion finally worked in full, so when the film took place they didn't even recall that moment. When they were grossed out at their about to kiss yourselfs.
And the 2nd was the final episode. All of the series was Herc telling his new bride Meg about his teen years. Which is funny, for you think that one epi would ring a bell "OH! So you were the girl I meet in my teen years huh?" who say that did not... As final epi could not cover all their reactions for each epi/story he was retelling.
I admire your knowledge of a series I haven’t seen on air since the 90s. I mainly remember Aphrodite being Lisa Kudrow! 😂
The Fangirl I loved the series rushed home after school to never miss an epi! They also did one of the first crossovers too! Hades and Jafar worked together as he died and went to the underworld. Becoming BFF complaining about their hero problems and make a bet to take down the others. Also Acres was hitting on Jaz and she was all “ am married!” So the crossover can be cannon to since the final in the series was the wedding lol
Hi Fangirl!!! I'm a huge fan of you're work!!! Keep up the great work!!! Have an amazing day Fangirl!!!
Thanks sweetie!
You're welcome. Thanks for replying.
actually there is a mention of a king during when Hercules was getting painted for a vase, Phil says “you have a meeting with king (I forgot the name) later today” so there is no seeing of him but there is a small mention in the film that most people don’t see
When you said "tv show Hercules" I immediately thought ""Kevin Sorbo" and was confused for a bit
What if Meg's ex bf came from another Disney movie? ...idk which, just throwing out thoughts here.
We see his shape, but I can’t think of anyone who matches it. Any ideas?
@@TheFangirlWatches It would have to be someone connected to that timeline (going by the Disney Universe theory here). I figured Eric at first, but there's too much contradiction, same with Aladdin and Naveen. Like, what Disney character could be considered a playboy?
People SAY it was Adonis from the Hercules series but honestly it seems unlikely. When she mentions Adonis being her ex in the series it's more of a gag that their horrible date was enough to make her want to get the magic amphora with water that makes you forget. She clearly didn't love Adonis at all, definitely no where near enough to sell her soul to save his life.
Okay legit.... you sound like meg a bit lol
I had to pause and rewind the beginning I’m like “meg Ryan “ 😂😂😂
Thanatos was death, hades was just the god of the underworld. The only one who could have made a deal like that was Thanatos. He's the actual god of death.
Hades and Thanatos were more or less the same characters at times. In Euripides "Alcestis" Hades is described as ‘dark cloaked and winged’ and confirms that Hades and Thanatos were the same god, and there are a plethora of stories that mention Hades getting attacked while simply doing his job as the god of death. Hades also had a title that refers to him as "god of death and darkness" ("Hesperos Theos") and even the ancient authors make it clear that they don't especially distinguish between the two figures.
Moreover, as the King of the Underworld, only Hades had the authority to bring back someone from the dead, trying to do so without his permission was one of the ways to capture his wrath.
@@cthonisprincess4011 Umm Hades isn't the God of death.
@@damarislopez5842 If you paid attention to what I wrote, you'd know that the ancient authors did not distinguish between Hades and Thanatos.
Euripides' "Alcestis" confirms this when Alcestis dies and a ‘dark cloaked and winged’ Hades comes to retrieve her soul, prompting Herakles to get into a fight with him, ultimately making Hades give her up and restore her to life.
Apollodorus likewise mentions that Herakles had to fight Hades in order to be allowed to restore Alcestis' soul to her body.
In another story, Hades is sent by Zeus to retrieve King Sisyphus' soul. Stealthily King Sisyphus asked Hades why Hermes, whose job was to escort shades to the Underworld, had not come for him. Because Hades was busy trying to come up with an answer, he was unaware that chains were being placed around him until it was too late. As long as Hades was tied up, nobody could die. Because of this, sacrifices could not be made to the gods, and those that were old and sick were suffering. The gods finally threatened to make life so miserable for Sisyphus that he would wish he were dead. He then had no choice but to release Hades.
Makes perfect sense!
Also, I like to concider her a princess anyway, since the Zeus is the king of the gods, that makes Herc a prince and Meg a princess! She deserves to be included in the franchise IMO. That might be a stretch, but so is Pocahontas, a chief's daughter, then... :)
Meg getting hurt was a null and void to the whole deal.
I'd like to politely correct the whole "Underworld after death" comment you made. Yes, everyone went to the Underworld upon death; however, that was to have their souls judged to see where they would spend the afterlife.
If you were a good person, you went to the Elysian Fields aka Heaven. If you were bad, you went to Tartarus, where wicked souls and the Titans were kept.
Great video!Your channel and video’s deserve more likes and subscribers
Thank you, I agree! Lol, thank darn algorithm is keeping me down!
Very cool! ^_^ I've also got the headcanon that after Meg made the deal to get the dude, Hades orchestrated the introduction of the 'babe' so he would leave her. Maybe to ensure he gained a minion in the deal?
Nice video. I watched till the end. There’s a heck of a long music outro though. 😁
Oh my gosh I didn't double check where the audio cuts out! lol! You're the first person to bring that up! hahaha
The Fangirl Well at least it’s not bad music! I watched till almost the very end. ☺️☺️
Saw it to the end, and that makes a lot of sense. Thank you! :)
No, no, thank YOU for being here! 💕
Meg's ex was Adonis from the cannon Disney channel series.
I hate the fact that Disney portrayed Hades as bad and evil
Interesting video about Meg's boyfriend before she met Hercules, ma'am.
I am happy that Meg found Hercules or Hercules found Meg
Megara was the name of Hercules first wife in Greek Mythology
Lovely theory as always, but I have another topic for you: where is Persephone in all of this? She’s supposed to be in the underworld every fall and winter yet she’s no where to be found. And does she know about Megara? Would she feel jealous of her? Food for thought.
According to the mythology, at that time Creon wasn't king yet, it was Œdipe, as he was a siner (killed his father and married his mother without Knowing who they were) so the gods punished Thebes with desasters and diseases unitl that siner shows up. If you want to know more, read Antigone by Sophocle, or a much modern version by Jean Anouille but it's not as rich as the original one ☺
River styx, the place where, in mythology, dead dreams go to be forgotten. Dreams as in ambitions. In the disney version it's the river where dead souls go to be forgotten. When you think of it, neither version is that different from the other. However, the river didn't become the place for forgotten ambitions until humans came along. Before humans it was once a beautiful river with nectar flowing through it. Now it's poluted with forgetten dreams and regret
By the looks of that magical blue dust or something, it looks like her “man” left her because of the other girl’s looks, and if you look at the girl he went to, it looked like she looked at him to make him know she’s not with anyone or I don’t know, like if you agree
Maybe the king was de throned somehow after the royal family broke apart when they disowned Meg for the Hades situation and that’s part of the reason why Thebes is so chaotic when we see it in the film? Or maybe seeing his daughter get into a situation like that broke his heart, he couldn’t continue to rule and there were no heirs, again leaving Thebes with no government?
That explains why she told Hercules that she could handle it herself when he went to go save her.
an interesting theory I hadn't thought about till I saw this video. Now I'm really thinking about it
Honestly this video is so underrated
Hi so I got question about Coraline if the other mother feeds of children energy than why didn’t she take the ghosts girls sister or twin it would make her more energy why not take her twin to the other world to idk if your already done this theory before but I searched it and I don’t think you have anyway if you see this comment and make a video about it you don’t have to but if you can look into it that would be great anyway that’s all I got bye!
If Meg was immortal while working for Hades, that would make sense why Hades was so cavalier about this caveat Hercules introduced when striking their deal (that she wouldn't get hurt when he gave up his strength). But then she DOES get hurt. Why? Does trying to save Hercules count as a sufficient betrayal of her "contract" with Hades, thereby making her susceptible to mortal wounds? Was Hades desperate enough to overlook this loophole, or just too frantic and caught up to even think about it?
But Meg made the deal with Hades to save the boyfriends life. So it was after the deal that the boyfriend left
when you said going deeper after showing a character from gravity falls, what other character picture could you have shown?
I love your theory, but I shave to wonder; if in fact her deal with Hades made her immortal, the moment Hades released is it possible she’s mortal now and her body might rapidly age to keep up with all the years that have past, or maybe she’s just gonna start aging like a normal human now
Hi, I made it to the end of the video! If you haven't done this already, could you make a theory about the live action Scooby Doo films, and by that I mean just the first two live action films, because I want you to figure out how these connect.
Hades' psychics could've tricked the guy that they were meg and transformed into Hercules then practiced their speech in a girly voice for the ex boyfriend INTENTIONALLY while the ex was hiding and had seen everything 😜
Maybe the man ran for Medusa who was in the TV series before she had snake hair and she did something to him maybe
Pretty sure Megara is also one of the 2 wifes Hercules had. Also although told through mythology everyone goes to the underworld, this still is divided into seperate parts 1 for the real goodie goodies, 1 for the normal citizen (it is told your memories of earth will be taken so you won't be tight to any earthly burdens) and there is the part where you get tortured by the furies for eternity. Greek Mythology yay!
I was just binge watching your other theories, and then this popped up.
It was suppose to release at 4, but I guess I scheduled it like a summer video. Whoops!
This is a amazing theory. =)
Thank you for watching! 💜
@@TheFangirlWatches Thank you for making this. =3
Well actually its one hundred percent possible to retrieve an already dead person from the underworld. Orpheus (son of Calliope and goddess of poets and musicians) almost did retrieve his true love from the underworld. He charmed Hades and Persephone into letting him try and retrieve Eurydice(Orpheus's love) from the dead. The only reason why he failed was because he looked back at Eurydice to make sure that she was still following him against Hades wishes. Also in the myth about the princess that Meg(in the movie) is based off of her love died so she became a servant to Hades to get him back.
Maybe the guy was a prince of lower status OR from a rival country and was killed in battle once Meg found out she sold her soul for him to come back only for him to run off once gaining the fame and as well as the credit as a warrior having his parents find a fit a suitor who was better than a Meg (ie: A women of greater status/ or a women with better connections to their allies) with that motives as well as his parents approval he ran off to get married to her no longer seeing the value in having Meg by his side knowing that being with her was more of a risk than being with another woman
Rose is not complex, she's a spoiled selfish narcissistic brat with sociopathic tendencies. She liked her new toys and ran away from her responsibility.
I don’t disagree in many ways, but her logic and emotional states were very complex.
Yes shes complex but I'm just saying shes not a good character. The diamonds are nazis, well she would be a Nazi who ran away and married her victim. Sorry I'm just not a fan of her character, Rebecca sugar likes to make abusers sympathetic.
Maybe she was a princess. I think she was betrothed. So she was going to marry a guy. But he didnt want her. :( he wanted somebody else that was prettier than her. He was sick or something. Made a deal with Hattie's and he was healed and the guy just did what he wanted. The end.
Meg’s boyfriend left her for another woman.
Interesting coincidence, but...Meg McCaffrey in Rick Riordan's series The Trials of Apollo is another demigod, and was manipulated by her stepfather Nero in much the same way, killing her father and forcing her to turn to him. Plus, they have the same name...
According to the ex-boyfriend to Megara, either it's Adonis from the series or someone else also had the same body built as Adonis.
I agree with your theory that she may be a lot older than we may think. Look at the style of her dress,I don't recall anyone else wearing anything similar.
And it’s purple, a hard to produce color associated with royalty!
Could Meg be the sea witch in Little Mermaid?? 🧜♀️
Hey i made it to the end
-thefangirl
Anyways have you done a video about who is andys dad from toy story or something like that
Disney pixar!!
Actually, the 2 Megara episodes from the series are canon. They were released as a direct to video sequel to the movie. So while all the tv cartoon series may not be canon, these are.
But if she was an immortal then why couldn't she live in mt Olympus with Hercules at the end.. Why did he have to go back to earth to be with her?
Immortal and Gods are not the same thing. All Siamese are cats, but not all cats are Siamese kind of thing.
I guess 🤷
In the end, she wasn't immortal anymore anyway. Hade's released her from his service after Hercules gave up his powers.
Hey i made it to the end! Can you please do a theory about anything transformers related? Thank you for your time and patience!
This is a really cool/interesting theory! It’d be awesome if Meg was a Disney Princess
poor Meg
What if she ran away from being a princess and her boyfriend just got disinterested in her and left her for another rich/well known family. He is running after anothing girl after all.
The creature that attacked Meg could be Meg's boyfriend. He wanted her back since there was nothing else for him to do. I guess he turned into some kind of beast of his actions because of what he has done. I am sorry for forgetting the name. This is my theory.
While this does sound lovely, the monster is just a simple river guardian named Nessus. Hades sent Meg to recruit Nessus for his Underworld army and as his payment, Nessus wanted Meg to be his lover. Meg kept refusing but Nessus kept being persistent and that's when Herc came in
Hello! Really nice video 💟
So...... Hades felt something about Megara ? Or he simply didn't cared?
Thanks Juliana! I don't think Hades really cared about Meg, but I think she was like the 1 competent employee at the office, so he didn't really want to lose her either.
“Fell in love with her ears” lmao
The only thing is that Hercules went to live a "Mortal" life. So, was Meg only immortalized when she was in hades posession? Please make a part two.
Yes, she's released now, so she's probably going straight back to a normal life.
The thing is though, Hercules states that he wants to live on earth so he can be with Meg. It's actually mentioned on IMDB that Hercules didn't actually give up his immortality (mainly because it's impossible), and that in a would-have-been sequel, it was revealed that the goddess Hebe was their daughter.
@@cthonisprincess4011 in real Greek mythology though Hebe is daughter of Eros and Phyce (sorry if it's spelt wrong) and married her on Olympus.
@@ashleighmilosevich8566 You're thinking of Hedone, the Goddess of pleasure, enjoyment, and delight. She was the daughter of Eros and Psyche.
Hebe, the goddess of youth and brides, was the daughter of Zeus and Hera in the original mythology. Herakles married her after he became a god, and it was Hera's way of showing that she no longer bore a grudge against her stepson (Herakles befriended Hera by saving her from Porphyrion, a giant who tried to rape her during the Gigantomachy).
@@cthonisprincess4011 guess that it would have changed version to version. The tales were told orally so it's very possible we heard the same story just with different details.
SQUEEZING RUNNING FROM YOUR FEELINGS MEG
PLOT TWIST: The girl figure was gay that had his body transformed into female by Aphrodite, once Meg's ex boyfriend find out he felt invited to have himself transformed into the same womanly figure as he felt threatened between Meg's beauty and the gay's female body transformation. He had been wanting to look like Megara but afraid to tell her 😍😍😍😍😂
I totally loved your content and desire to look for something deeper than just a simple assumption. Specially that im a crwzy fan of this movie and specially megara.
Gosh i was akid when i watched this movie and now im 33 and still following this movie. Megara's character just captured me so bad
lol I’m right there with you! I think I was like 12 when Hercules came out and OOOOOHHHH I just loved it so much! Even the McDonald’s toys were so cool!
@@TheFangirlWatches
Cheers 🍻 😅 how i wish they made part II.
Please make more videos about this movie. I already subscribed ❤
BTW like the moment I saw rose
I love this and made it to the end! :)
what if Meg was convinced she was Aromantic (if you dont know what that is it's you don't feel romantic attraction) and once she felt attracted to someone for the first time she thought it was true love.so she sold her soul. but then when he left she swore she would never love a man KEYWORD MAN again. Maybe being a princess and LGBTQ was wrong and she decided to try women. her parents might have found her with women and disowned her so she was fully Hades. But she is always sassy with hades and hades always get mad at her. he could have easily tortured her but maybe just maybe he fell in love with her so he dint want to hurt her. and would rather see her dead and spend eternity with him than be with Hercules so he killed her and she went to the underworld
did that make any sense?
Hi I made it to the end and could you do a theory on how covue came to be scars son? Idk how to spell his name sorry if it’s wrong xx
This was answered in the series guys.. The popular jock dude from the Hercules series left Megera for that popular girl with blonde hair in the series. It is revealed!!!!
I covered that at the beginning.
hey I made it to the end, do an intersectional video on how many out of work Star Trek: The Next Generation actors were in Disney's Gargoyles
Lol I think there were 3! Riker, Deana Troy, and Worf. I probably spelled all those wrong, but my dad and I had a running gag that this is where all TNG actors were put out to pasture. 😂
Did anybody else notice at 1:07 the book was the once upon a tine book from Abc's Once Upon A Time
awesome work :) i love complicated villains as well
Yay! I love it when people appreciate a good backstory video 👊
So diarrhea killed Meg’s boyfriend? I mean it was on the list.
Can you do a theory on "Missing Halloween"?
Megara in Greek mythology is a Theben princess. True. So it's very possible that your theory is true.
I don’t believe that meg was a princess just due to her name sense before the labors Heracles (Hercules) was married to a woman named Megera and they had kids, he then killed them under the influence of hera but that’s another story.
I think they chose the name because Heracles was married to a woman with the same name. (Just my opinion)