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In this video, we react to How Traditional Cornish Pasties Are Made! We’ve heard of the Cornish pasty before, but this is the first time we’ve actually seen them being made-and wow, they look incredible!
It’s easy to see why these were a staple for miners in Cornwall. Even today, they look like the perfect, no-fuss way to enjoy a meal. That mix of beef, potatoes, and onions, all wrapped up with its own built-in handle? Genius. The way the filling creates its own gravy inside just makes it even better.
We’ve never had anything quite like this, but it’s definitely near the top of our list when we finally make it to England!
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Cornishman here! This recipe is the traditional one, and has protected status, so you can't legally call a pasty a "Cornish Pasty" unless it follows this recipe and is made in Cornwall. Most bakeries (Not Greggs, we don't mention the G word round these parts) will have alternate flavours, usually a cheese and onion and a chicken pasty (chicken ones sometimes have a little bechamel sauce as they don't get as much flavour as the beef). Sweet pasties are a rarity, my nan used to make small jam pasties to use up the scraps of pastry, but you won't find them in bakeries. Seasoning would only ever be salt and lots of black (or white) pepper, amount of pepper is usually top 3 in terms of review criteria when trying a new bakery. The Ultimate comfort food, though I may be biased.
Not biased .at all. I'm a huge fan of food with protected status. You know what you're getting. Melton Mowbray pork pie. Stornoway black pudding, Arbroath smokies, even champagne, although I don't care for champers. The humble pasty stood the tin miners in good stead and continues to do the same with us today. I only ever buy a Scotch pie or a steak bake from the G word!
Also called Oggy from Hogen type Cornish name
Ginsters is a swear word here in kernow 😆 ...
@ I agree, but when you've got a 400 mile drive at 4am, you don't have much choice. A cold Ginsters sausage roll, bag of salt n vinegar, peperami and a KitKat. And used to be the odd Beano and Dandy. I was young then. Only in my forties
Im sure ive had one with mutton in down there..maybe it was a special thing 😂
All the people over the world that mock British food, have never tried *REAL* British food like this. I've been on a visit to Cornwall and had the traditional pasty, and I can confirm it's hearty and really delicious.
Yeah, well, ignorant bigots are gonna ignorant bigot.
I was made an honorary Yorkshirewoman some years ago, on account of:
1 - getting the humour (I'm Danish, Yorkshire is old Danelaw country ... this one was easy)
2 - I understand what they're saying when they talk to me, as opposed to nine out of ten non-Yorkshire Brits (southern Jessies in particular)
And
3 - I LOVE THE FOOD!!
Only someone truly off their rocker claims british food is bad. They invented mushy peas, for God's sake!!
Nice one duck @@ClosedGame75
We eat these everywhere in the UK because they're delicious.
But honestly the big ones you get in Cornwall (even though the majority are clearly mass produced) are out of this world.. Imagine having a.BigMac for the first time. A proper Cornish pasty (not a cheap one from a supermarket) smacks you in the face the same way!!!
@adrianmorton4262 hundred percent agree 👍
I'm a Cornishman. I was taught to make pasties by my great grandmother who was a legend in the local Women's Institute for her pasties. If you'd like to make some yourself at home. You'll need to make some shortcrust pastry, and knead it until you've run out of energy, take a break and knead it some more. The kneading is what makes the dough stretchy and strong and almost all of the problems you may encounter during the making will be caused by not enough kneading. You can use the "window method" to test whether it has been kneaded enough - stretch the dough as much as possible and if you can see through it then it's good enough.
Use your largest plate as a mould to cut a circle around. Use slices of potato and swede, chuck or skirt beef, onions, plenty of salt and pepper, and the secret ingredient - a small amount of fresh parsley. You shouldn't need the butter if you've done it correctly. Stretch the dough over the mound of filling and crimp. Use an egg wash and bake until a nice golden brown. Leave on a rack to cool.
You may know Swede as rutabaga in the states if you've come across it
I’ve mentioned here before that I was evacuated to Cornwall during WW11. I was there for the whole of the War and had many pasties. I made some my self only last week. Regards, MaryG
I was taught not to handle the pastry too much as if gets hard. Also don't completely rub in all the fat this leads to a slight flakiness
Each to their own
Greggs is a dirty word to many my friends in Cornwall 😂
As a child we always went on holiday to Cornwall at least once a year, and there is nothing like a real Cornish pasty freshly made on the day, come rain or shine a tasty treat, I have one recent fond memory, going from a sunny day in St Ives to suddenly sheltering from a freak rain storm eating a warm pasty with my young Daughter, passing on the tradition , I hope she dose the same when she has a family 😊
Same here, every year.
That's beautiful! What great memories :)
I remember when I was in the Royal Navy, we would go to Devonport and the Oggie Van would drive round the dockyard. The queue was always big and the pasties would be massive and so tasty. Ive never had a better pastie than that. Absolutely amazing
@@teadrinkingunicorn were they Ivor Dewdnes ,by any chance
Sounds like an experience!
Cornish pasties are a geographically protected product, theres several UK products like that. They HAVE to be made in Cornwall to use that name. If they aren't, they are given a generic name like potato and vegetable pasty, but they'll have that signature Cornish pasty look , so youd know what it supposed to be
Those were EU designations, so I don't know how much they apply these days
@@chrisnorman1902
FYI: "PGI Status" - (Protected Geographical Indications and Protected Designations of Origin) are NOT to do with the EU and are designated by the UK Government... 🤔
@StewedFishProductions 'On 20 July 2011, after a nine-year campaign by the Cornish Pasty Association (CPA) - the trade organisation of about 50 pasty makers based in Cornwall - the name "Cornish pasty" was awarded Protected Geographical Indication (PGI) status by the European Commission... Producers outside Cornwall objected to the PGI award, with one saying "[EU bureaucrats could] go to hell"'
I always ask for "a large Cornish-STYLE pasty," thereby mock-blocking the shopkeepers' inevitable smug "ACKTCHUALLY...."
Other markets like the USA have never given much regard to the EU's geographically protected names. See also "Champagne" from California or "Feta" from Wisconsin.
As someone who was born and raised in Cornwall, its amazing that you've both looked into our culture. Eating a pasty is a must do if you ever come here and it would be interesting to see if you could try it on your channel and see what you think 🖤🤍
Many Different Qualities....,..always but from a small local Bakery!
Oh yeah! We're hoping to someday and would definitely share our experience on the channel :)
Cornwall has some of the most beautiful landscapes, rich history & culture, great food, and its own language!! Not that I’m biased or anything, being from there & still living here…
I've been repeatedly told how wonderful Cornwall is. Then again, my ex-wife is from Marazion... :)
@@littlepiggin yep agreed but I am biased too. Cornish through and through 😊 I'm lucky enough to call Lostwithiel home as well so feel doublable blessed
@@littlepiggin finaly starting to teach our own language is schools again!! 🙂
Cornwall is nice but devon is as nice but bigger
The Miners always held the Pasty by the crust because their hands were commonly contaminated with Arsenic always found around Tin and Copper.
There were two reasons that the crust was discarded 1 the Arsenic contamination. 2 an older thing was an offering to the Knockers (small Elfin/ Gnome like creatures) to keep them happy, many misfortunes in a mine were blamed on the Knockers. Called Knockers because when the men were at rest sometimes they would hear knocking from below.
In the US they are known as Tommy Knockers.
@@planekrazy1795 they didn't hold it by the crust, that's a myth
@@chrisnorman1902 Now you are the one making a myth. They most certainly did hold them by the crimped crust.
@@sharonmartin4036 they didn't, that's a myth
@@planekrazy1795 I didn't know about the Tommy knockers part very interesting
@@chrisnorman1902 As someone, who is old enough to have met and spoken to Cornish Tin Miners, they most definitely did hold their pasties by the crust, so get away with your ignorance laddie.
I married a Cornishman - I'm from Devon. He gave me the title of honorary Cornishwoman as my Pasties were so good. 😆I watched his Mum before we got married.
We need to know: how do you prepare your scones for one another?
Homemade pasties best! OH and I thought being on Devon Cornwall border - we'd find proper nice pasty - we haven't yet? Gristle chewy meat - rock hard veg? Wasn't cheap either!
@@simonmeadows7961 I converted him to eating them the Devon way - cream first!🤣
I'm from devon aswell but you do realise the pasty originated in devon
Well the Cornish pasty is actually from Devon sooo
Pasties are eaten all over UK due to large bakeries covering the whole country.In Bedfordshire we have a version called a Bedfordshire Clanger ( no soup dragon allowed.Only UK will get the joke ) 😀
That's not a Cornish Pasty though
@@Durant522 ... No it's not, it has to come from Cornwall to be called a Cornish pasty.
Clangers are good. Start at the right end though 😀. Does anyone still make them, last one I had was at Dunstable Downs but they don't sell them anymore
@@muskrat645 Gunns bakery in Bedford
@robertmassie4903 there was a bakery on the high street near the rose that sold them but i think they may have closed now!
Apparently, Pasties are pretty common in Michigan (particularly in the North). This is due to Cornish miners travelling to where the work was, “Wherever there is a hole in the earth, you will find a Cornishman at the bottom.”.
Due to Cornish miners, there are similar items derived from Cornish Pasties all over the world (such as the Jamaican Patty, and the Mexican Paste), but Michigan has kept the recipe pretty authentic.
The dust on the miners' hands wasn't simply dirty but often contained high levels of Arsenic, which is why it was so important to throw away the crimp. But don't worry-it didn't go to waste.
Knocking sounds could often be heard prior to a mine collapse, which the miners believed were a warning from a type of goblin or sprite called a Knocker. The crimp was left as a gift/tribute to keep the Knockers happy.
In the Beara Peninsula in southwest ireland many cornish miners were brought over to work the tin mines there,there is even a film about it called hungry hill..
Almost everywhere there's intense mining, you'll find people with Cornish and Welsh ancestry.
my favourite bit is how some mines have friendly Knockers that warn miners of collapses, and others have the means Knockers that try to cause them! I guess they weren’t given enough of the crust!
You will also in Pasties in Mineral Point in Wisconsin too.
@@simonmetcalfe5926Plenty of Scots to, funny how so many Celts ended up down mines.
As a Cornish Maid myself, nothing quite beats a good Cornish pasty whilst viewing our beautiful county. You should check out a video on Cornwall. We have over 300 beaches, not to mention old churches, a cathedral, castles, waterfalls, the Eden Project…just stunning. I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else 🥰
Not sure about the winter months, cold, windy, dreary, shops closed, people locked away, as desolate & bleak, as winter storm torn Dartmoor…Spring & summer months, beautiful picturesque scenery, unique, amazing sun drenched beaches, the towns swarming with bright, cheerful happy souls eargerly stuffing down local fish & chips, the best pasty’s & clotted cream - ice cream that money can buy..Visited several times, as a child on holidays in the 70’s. Many fond memories. Head straight to Lands Ends magical coast line, then up to Saint.Ives for the ultimate Cornish town experience..🙂
They were made for Cornish tin miners, who held the crimped end in their dirty hands, but didn't eat it. Cornish housewives would often put a partition in the pasty and fill a section with jam or some other sweet thing so their husbands had a 'main course' and a 'dessert' all in one parcel.
Holding the crimp with dirty hands is just a myth
No they weren't they came from devon originally
It's 100% no. And it wasn't just"dirt', they had things like arsenic on their hands from the mining @@chrisnorman1902
Jam & Clotted Cream!
@@chucky2316 The Oldest Pasty Recipe is from Plymouth......(Devon)!
One place Americans can get a Cornish (style) pasty is from Lehto's Pasties in St Ignace, Michigan, just cross the Mackinac Bridge, into the upper peninsula.
As a Cornish man,in Redruth, Cornwall...I would have to do a taste test ...Sounds like a holiday in the making...
If we ever vacation up that way we'll have to keep that in mind! :) Thanks
There are parts of the US where Pasties are popular, largely places where Cornish miners emigrated to, particularly parts of Wisconsin and the Michigan Upper Peninsula.
Pasties and pies are VERY popular where I'm from in the North West, pies and pasties are plentiful with lots of bakeries and butchers selling all kinds of varieties. Meat and potato is the most popular round here. Minced beef and gravy is my go to 😋, you only get that as a pie though, where as stuff like meat and potato or cheese and onion, you can get as a pie or pasty
Ex Lancs lad here..........I would eat Hollands meat and potato pies by the cubic foot!
@@walshaw2 ... Yuk. Hollands worst meat and potato pies I've ever had, I wouldn't touch Hollands pies with a barge poll.
A Wigan Kebab. Meat and Potato pie stuffed into the middle of a Barm Joe. A tub of Pey Wet on the side. The epitome of high cuisine.
Marmite: it's used in cooking to add a meat-like umami taste to meat substitutes like TVP or soya protien. Theyre almost certainly using it for their veggie pasties.
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When did this "umami" lark start? Savoury. We already have the word "savoury."
I had a cheese & marmite pasty (Warren's) & it was loverly 🥰
@kate6038got some marmite cheese in the fridge 😁
@@johnleonard9090 😄👍
It even made its way to Mexico when Cornish miners were hired to help revive the silver mines. I cant remember the name of the place but they have a pasty festival and lots of different fillings.
That's amazing!
@@cordite7207 Pachuca? i think the place was called ...
British food=Brilliant. Pasties=Heaven. Simple. 😊
The Cornish Pasty predates the Spanish Empanadas and were probably the inspiration for them. Spanish traders buying tin from Cornish miners likely ate them and took the idea back to Spain along with the tin.
probably also brought from miners travelling around the world to dig elsewhere!
Cornish Miners went to work in Mexico, in the 1820s, to work in the Mexican silver mines at Real del Monte and its surrounding areas. They took their Pasty recipes with them and shared them with the town and villages. Local mexicans took the idea and put in their own fillings and also made them a fair bit smaller (not always) into empanadas.
Spanish and Portuguese fishermen who got blown to Cornish Ports by SW winds got to know them, the Cornish language is very Iberian based as is Cornish DNA.
A real Cornish pasty (in Cornwall) is a delight, and a 'must have' when you visit. Whenever I visit Cornwall, its always one of the first things I look for to eat. There are many bakeries and pasty shops, and the quality can vary. There are different fillings that have developed over the years to suit different tastes including a vegetarian option. My preference is the traditional beef, and I have prime pasty places across the county that I revisit where I know I'll get a juicy, tasty pasty.
@@MarkmanOTW when your down next try liddicoats butchers Lostwithiel you won't be dissapionted
There was a shop in St. Ives which sold all varieties of pasties, including things like chicken tikka. Superb !
@emmarogers948 I have and they're delicious! My Dad lived nearby in Lanlivery and that was their go-to butchers. I visited there with him specifically to get some pasties for our lunch. 😃
@@grahamtravers4522 Always fun to try some other flavours. I enjoyed some good food in St Ives 😊
The crust was an Handel that they through away because the tin mines worked with arsenic, so they would eat the pastie and trough away the contaminated crust
The crusts were left for the rats as a form of rodent control
When you come over it has to a traditional cornish pasty there is nothing like it absolutely beautiful.
You can fill a pasty with anything you want, combinations of any filling veg with or without meat. A true Cornish Pasty is what's shown in the video. It's the same with a pie, any filling you want, a pie is still a pie. Shepherd's / Cottage pie is really straightforward to make and it's what my kids first learnt to cook from a very early age, the same as my grandkids have.
Eating one Now, except I'm in Devon (I'm not trying to start a war) we will leave the Jam & Cream Debate For Another Day!
@@anniemoore6455 lmao ..it is always a risky subject at weddings when you are cornish and have devon rellies and they have all had a drop of the ole Doombar and the home brew scrumpy 😆
Pastys are big in Wales too, our coal/copper/slate miners etc ate the pasty too.
Miners would often move around to where the work was. My grandfather was a Durham miner (northern England) but was moved to South West Wales to work the Cynheidre Colliery.
It was designed as a meal of meat and potato, in its own edible lunchbox, so that the miners could eat a decent meal without needing cutlery or to handle the food with their dirty hands. They'd hold the thick crust and eat the rest.
There are places here that do a cornish pasty still although there are now a multitude of traditional and modern takes on the pasty across the UK. Good hearty feel good food.
It's called an "Oggie" in S. Wales - or is that just Pembrokeshire?
@ruthholbrook it is indeed. They covered it somewhere in the video. Back then they were the specific cornish equivalent with lamb and leek. The cornish called theirs "hoggan" which is poss where we ended up calling it "Oggie". 🤷♀️
@@DrTinyToff ... Oggy/Oggie is Cornish. It was a slang word used for Cornish pasty. The term was later made popular in Wales by Welsh folk singer and comedian Max Boyce.
You can buy pasties all over the UK but the ones from Cornwall are definitely the best, they’re best when warm but still lovely when cold
Yes you can buy pasties all over the UK, but if you want a Cornish pasty it has to be made in Cornwall. If it's not made in Cornwall then it can't be called a Cornish pasty.
I've eaten a few Pasties from the St Agnes (St Aggie) bakery, and they are very good....Pasties, of a sort, are available in the US, in places where the Cornish Tin Miners emigrated to....I've had a passable one in Copper Harbour in the "Yoop" (Upper peninsula of Michigan )
The secret of a good pasty is pepper. There should be a lot of pepper on it. Enough to make your mouth tingle.
There are lots of different flavours but try a traditional first. That’s the real deal. Everything else is a variation on a pie.
As a Cornishman it hurts my soul to know that you don't have access to these things of beauty.
Thas rhyte bey.. bleedy shame for them
They are easy enough to make at home
@@michellejones5541 yeah I make a mean pasty.
I got a load of videos on how various British products and foods are made that you may find interesting. I have a "Made in Britain" playlist. They show how they are made plus give some trivia and stuff too. A few food examples
Made In Britain - How malt vinegar is made
Made In Britain - How Melton Mowbray pork pies are made
Made In Britain - How Robinsons fruit squash is made
Made In Britain - How Tiptree Jam is made
Made In Britain - How Worcestershire sauce is made
We had a neighbour from Cornwall and she used to make us homemade pasties! Stunning when they’re still hot from the oven 😊
Oh how lucky!
my grandfather on my dads side was a old Cornish man who went down the mines, his wife made the most beautiful homemade pasties, some that could be held and some that were enormous and you had a "slice" of pastie, its true the crusts were larger to act as a handle and they were 50/50 sweet jam and vegetable (meat was too expensive for the normal worker and was a treat) but the lard and butter gave the men enough calories to work, the crusts were not eaten but were dropped in a dark corner of the mine to feed the rats so they didn't bite the miners so often.
I used to drive to Cornwall every friday for work and so of course I would pick up a couple of proper cornish pasties and drive home with them or eat them there looking out to the sea by a nice beach. Highly recommend it. Greggs is not the same thing, you need a traditional bakery from down there. But yes we have lots of pasties but a cornish pasty must have real steak.
Pastys
@@Marksy1974 is that you Mr Balaam!?
That sounds like heaven!
Yeah, these are fancy true Cornish pasties made with fresh beef. The bog standard cheap supermarket cornish pasties will often have mince meat in them. They can also be served as part of a main meal too, with Mash potatoes, peas and gravy, with the pasty serving as a pie alternative.
Or with chips! Surely that's not just a London thing?
Our equivalent of a Cornish Pastie here in Scotland is called a Bridie (pronounced like a bride getting married with "ie" at the end). Traditionally it has a beef an onion filling, but these days you get all sorts of filling in them. My personal favourite is chicken, haggis and black peppercorn.
OMG I would love a haggis Brodie😋😋😋
@@michellejones5541 Or even a haggis bridie 😉. Highly recommended. Yum!
If the Cornish Pasties blew your minds, you should check out Clangers next!
YES!!!😂😂
We'll have to look those up :)
It’s weird to me how Americans describing pastry, often refer to it as “bread, or bready”.
Whenever I visit Cornwall, I eat one of these every day. When I return to Wales, I take at least four or five home with me!!! They're absolutely delicious 😋.
Sounds like you have your priorities straight :)
As a lot of words in English, pasty is derived from an old French word for pie "paste" not used anymore but remember French was the official language of England for nearly 400 years during Medieval times.
South went ere, abd I came to the comments to discover this🤦🏻♀️ thank you
Only amongst the Normans mate- they made it official but the real population still spoke Old English
German
Anglo saxon
Wasn't the official language
The street vendors would shout "oggy! oggy! oggy! If you wanted to buy one you would reply"oi! oi! oi!" It is now regarded as a traditional chant at sporting events or round the campfire.
And Aussies stole this shout, but replacing "Oggy" with "Aussie". 🙂
i thought it was a welsh term ,but could be mistaken!!
@@TheDemonijk ... No it's Cornish originally, but the chant was later popularised by Welsh folk singer and comedian Max Boyce in the 1970s and then began being adopted by Welsh rugby union crowds at international matches. But it's origins were in Cornwall as the pasty sellers would call oggy, oggy, oggy and miners would reply oi, oi, oi. Oggy/oggie was the slang term for a Cornish pasty.
@martinwebb1681 thank you ,thats quality
My mother (Yorkshirewoman of Irish origin) would make Cornish Pasties for us as kids.
Onion, potato, carrot, turnip and peas went in to it, and whatever meat was cheapest that day.
They were a total treat and we kids didn't even mind that we were eating vegetables when they were in a buttery pasty.
Your mum made pasties but if they had anything other than potato swede(turnip) onion beef and butter it's not a Cornish Pasty
My Grandma was cornish and she made pasty's for me when i was young, the pasty it's self was made for the cornish miners this was there lunch, the reason for the edge of the pasty being folded as it is, is so the miners could hold the pasty with dirty hands that part of the crust would then be thrown away
In Australia, where I live, many Cornish miners and their families migrated to South Australia in the mid-1800s, to work in the copper mines in the mid north of the colony. They brought with them the humble pastie. As I understand it, the crimped edge was indeed the handle. And when the miner finished eating his cold pastie, he would save the handle crust to feed to his chickens when he got home. And the meat they used, (and still do), was mutton, not beef. I love a pastie warm from the oven, on a cold wintery day.
There was talk of a 'meat' end, and a 'sweet' end. There's another form of 'portable foodstuff' called a 'Bedfordshire clanger', which is long and rectangular, like a sort of long sausage roll with closed ends. That DEFINITELY has a sweet and savoury end.
Potato with grated cheese and onion is a popular pasty filling!
That sounds delicious!
The Cornish are kind enough to allow real Cornish pasties out of the County for all of us to enjoy on picnics etc. Lovely!
There are many variations, but they may not be truly Cornish pasties. There is a chain store, the West Cornwall Pasty Company, that has stores in many towns (and especially in train stations) that do variations such as chicken curry flavour or lamb & mint flavour.
My local equivalent, when growing up, was the Bedfordshire Clanger, which was half and half between savoury and sweet, but it uses a different pastry and is shaped a little differently.
Note that the Cornish pasty is also the inspiration for the Jamaican patty.
Traditionally the pasty had two separate compartments one with meat n veg the other with apple or other fruit filling separated by a pastry barrier so there was a dinner and dessert in one package
Shepards and cottage pie are simple to make, as for the pasties, they do numerous fillings, but the classic holds a special place in my heart.
Who's this "Shepard" guy, and why do people keep mentioning his pies?
"Shepherd's" 👍
We have a similar thing in Scotland called a 'Bridie'. A Forfar bridie. There is a brilliant bakery in Kilmarnock that does a bridie called 'A Belter'. I love Cornish pasties and bridies. They're not the same, but I love Cornwall and the history. And the Cornish people. Dydh da. I need to visit again. Not been for yonks.
Had 'A Belter' earlier today in Stewarton (where I live). While you would obviously know, for the benefit of people further afield Stewarton (once a village but now a small town) is 5 miles from Killie where the bridie called the Belter originated.. Another great local food is The Killie Pie, so called because it was originally served at Kilmarnock Football Club's home matches until that bakery lost the contract to cater at the ground.
@@IainEPaterson And ironically, Browning's now sponsor Killie. Say aye to a Killie pie!
As it's a Bakery the Marmite you saw on the shelf may be for or in another item made there say for example a Marmite Pin Wheel or in a bread mix may be such as Tiger Bread.
Oh, I forgot about the marmite pinwheel - that is awesome!!! I'm craving one now lol
The perfect sustaining packed lunch. Many families would have their own special recipe, while the others got theirs from the local bakery. It was a brilliant idea, because mining for tin brought the men into contact with arsenic, so the handle that the crimping formed was vital, so the men could throw that part away to keep themselves safe.
Another Cornishman here, there are parts of Michigan (Upper Peninsula) and Wisconsin (around Mineral Point) where you can get Cornish Pasties, quite a considerable number of Cornish folk especially miners emmigrated to those parts after the tin mines started to close down in Cornwall in the 19th century. It is estimated there are around 2 million Cornish Americans and they kept the tradition going over there on making Pasties.
I come from a place in England called Bedford and we had a local version of the Cornish pasty that is called a "Bedfordshire Clanger". It has a savoury cornish pasty on one half and has an apple filling or other fruit filling on the other side, allowing people to have both a main lunch and dessert in one pasty. I would think that the Cornish would think it sacrilege, but personally, I think it sacrilicious!
I was born in Bedfordshire, granny made clangers. I spent 40 years in the Westcountry, I ate pasties most days.
The cornish pasties can be eaten cold after being baked, dont forget if you make shepherds pie use lamb cottage pie is beef
And Cumberland pie can be either, except with the addition of breadcrumbs and cheese topping...
Cottage pie, shepherd’s pie and Cumberland pie are different. They are topped with mashed potato rather than pastry. And to be a proper pie the filling must be encased in a pastry base and sides in addition to the lid. For convenience a lot of commercial cooks just top the filling with pastry but that ain’t a pie!
You can also get pies that are eaten cold such as pork pie and gala pie (pork pie containing whole boiled eggs).
Bloody Hellfire! Two posts in a row that ACTUALLY spelt "shepherd's" correctly!
Heck, THREE, now!
What a day this turned out to be!
@Beedo_Sookcool
Strangely, I always get 'peed off' too, seeing shepherd's spelt wrong so often... 😎
@alecquail9275
TBH: You totally missed the point. We are well aware how how the three 'pies' mentioned are made... The OP was just adding an addendum to his comment, because of how often American's call a 'beef' based _(Cottage Pie)_ 'Shepherd's Pie' (SP). I have been visiting the US for well over 45 years and have only ONCE found a SP made with lamb _(I have never seen 'Cottage Pie' mentioned on a US restaurant menu - LOL)._
Personally I’m a cheese and onion pasty kind of girl! 😊. There’s many different flavours now as all our tastes grow xx
Then it's not a Cornish Pasty, it's a cheese and onion pie. LOL
They are absolutely Amazing Steve, especially with some Brown Sauce on. I saw a program and the guy was in a Bakery and the Biggest seller was the Humble Cornish Pasty. Nothing new in that you might think, but The Bakery was in a small town in Montana USA. Apparently, Cornish Miners brought the Recipe with them when they emigrated there, after the demise of Mining in Cornwall.
I'm a Cornishman and happy to see more people taking an interest in our food and culture, especially with next month being St Piran's Day.
You guys should have a go at making your own! There’s plenty of recipes online! A pasty is such a versatile food. As you guys touched on, loads of variations, great as a snack or as a meal. Can be eaten on the go or as a sit down meal! Deffo something worth having a go at as you can’t really go wrong with it 😊
Cornishman here. That doesn't look like a bad pasty, but the pastry is too thick. My mother would not have been impressed. Other than that' good job. There is a strong Cornish presence in the US and depending where you are, you can get pasties there. 'Beard meets food' just released a yt video on a pasty challenge in the states if you are interested. A modern traditional pasty is what was shown in the video from a filling point of view, but back in the mining days, they would have been filled with whatever was available. Going to have to go and make some pasties now damnit!
The thicker pastry is likely due to them being a commerial company. Less chance of a hole forming.
Pasty is a regional way of saying pie. The crimped edges were designed to be held by the dirty miner hands, allow him to eat the rest. The crimped edge was then thrown away!
That's actually a myth, they would eat it wrapped in cloth
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Cornish Pasties are GORGEOUS!
Absolutely LOVE Cornish Pasties... Yum! Yum! 😋
Hi, there are lots of versions of pasties in the UK with a variety of fillings but a proper Cornish Pasty in Cornwall is the best imo. They were one of the highlights of our camping holidays. At the same time if you want the best fish and chips you have to get them from somewhere on the coast where the fish is freshest - maybe the air has something to do with it too. I had the best fish and chips in a cafe in Cleethorpes years ago 😁
My grams, who was born and raised in the St Austell area of Cornwall, famous for its kaolin mines, always added turnip to the mix and also some black pepper. Today, faux pasties are available in varieties such as cheese, potato & onion; lamb, potato & mint; and even spiced with curry. My kids used to love their grangran's mini lamb & leek ones, which she made each Monday right up to her death aged 98.
Whaddya mean, "faux pasties"? They made out of plastic, or something? If you can eat them, they're real pasties . . . just not Cornish pasties.
Cornish pasties made in Cornwall have a PGI patent meaning Cornwall is the only place that can use the traditional recipe and are hand made.
Other places make pasties but they tend to change the recipe, add carrots, use mincemeat, use a different pastry or different thickness of pastry, are made in a factory etc.
Greggs sells pasty's so do supermarkets but all have there own recipes, some even do the crimping on the top.
Cornish pasties are one of my favourite savoury pastries. You can get many different fillings both in Cornwall and throughout the UK, some even with carrots and mince!!!. However it can only go by the name of Cornish Pasty if made in Cornwall.
It was originally made so the workers in tin mines, we had plenty, had a simple meal all in one. The original was also made with fish. They are superb and quite spicy because of the pepper. I often had these when in Cornwall, usually at Tintagel (King Arthur's birthplace). The inside is not mushy it is slightly solid. Britain was and is a pie nation.
Was expecting Forrest to say it needs peanut budder 😂
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There are loads of variations, even vegan, vegetarian, chicken, pork, addition of diced turnip, diced carrot, all sorts. What you watched was the absolutely traditional pasty. The other kinds, you'd probably find in London.
The Pasties the miners ate were savoury one side and sweet the other end, they do have Chicken Pasties. Cheese Pasties, several different flavours.
Proper Cornish pasties are incredible. Tasty, filling, portable, the perfect street food for lunch or dinner. Often imitated, never beaten. There are tales that pasties held savoury filling on one side and a dessert filling on the other side. Miners would hold the crust with their dirty hands and discard it after eating the filling.
The marmite is for another product they sell. That bakery sell marmite roasted potatoes
At school I had a part time job in a London bakery. When making pasties, my signature crimp included impressions of my fingernails 🙄
Pasties are a staple of British food but the Cornish Pasty is a classic design. There's another traditional shape which has the crust going down the middle/over the top. The ingredients would be based on whatever they could afford in that area. The ingredient "Swede" is what is called Rutabaga in the US.
Shepheard's Pie doesn't have pastry but is mashed potato over mince, carrots & peas.
Greggs do more rectangular pasties they call "slices".
*Shepherd's Pie is made from minced lamb, hence shepherd. Cottage Pie is minced beef.
Gregg's, like Krispy Kreme, is highly overrated. Yeah. I said it.
@@Beedo_Sookcool ... Greggs is cheap and cheerful food, nothing wrong with that as their stuff tastes okay (but the fillings are rather lacking). But if you want a real Cornish pasty that tastes good then Greggs and other similar bakeries are best avoided.
Hi Guys , my stepdad absolutely loves a pastie , he's had a pace maker fitted recently and we often joke about if he has a heart scan it's going to show crimping around it. 😂😂.
😅 That's funny. Hope he's doing well now!
nice one guys.I'd heard about the half savoury/half sweet mix before but never seen one these days (maybe only when the mines were working).No idea about the marmite..And finally, a true good pasty is a thing of heaven👍
In Australia when I went to boarding school we were often served Cottage Pie and Shepherd’s Pie. Cottage Pie is beef mince covered in gravy topped with mashed potatoes. Shepherd’s Pie uses lamb mince and mashed potato.
In plymouth we have a pasty shop called oggy oggy, now I know why lol, I also knew they had desert 1 side, but they don't sell like that anymore, I used to bake pies and pasties just simple.
The difference between cottage pie and shepherd's pie, 1 beef the other lamb.
Pukka pies are popular
Ive seen tiki masala curry pasties you can litterally put what ever you want in them its kinda like a calzone
Steve and Lindsay. Just yesterday I watched a video from Phoenix AZ featuring a pasty shop! But that's not the only one in the US. Below I've pasted a list (from Wikipedia) of places outside the UK where pasties are eaten including several in the US:
" Migrating Devonian and Cornish miners and their families (colloquially known as Cousin Jacks and Cousin Jennies) helped to spread pasties into the rest of the world during the 19th century. As tin mining in Devon and Cornwall began to decline, miners took their expertise and traditions to new mining regions around the world.[55] As a result, pasties can be found in many regions, including:
Many parts of Australia, including the Yorke Peninsula, which has been the site of an annual Cornish festival (claimed to be the world's largest) since 1973. A clarification of the Protected Geographical Status ruling has confirmed that pasties made in Australia are still allowed to be called "Cornish Pasties".[56]
A Lancashire pasty is a traditional variant originating in Lancashire, especially West Lancashire that is similar to its Cornish counterpart but uses carrot instead of swede.
Pasties can be found in California in many historical Gold Rush towns, such as Grass Valley and Nevada City.
The pasty has become a cultural symbol of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.[57][58] Pasty shops are a significant tourist attraction in the region. Additionally, the village of Calumet is home to an annual Pasty Festival.[59] Many ethnic groups adopted the pasty for use in the Copper Country copper mines; the Finnish immigrants to the region mistook it for the traditional piirakka and kukko pastries.[60][61] The pasty has become strongly associated with all cultures in this area and in the Iron Range in northern Minnesota.[62]
Mineral Point, Wisconsin, was the site of the first mineral rush in the United States during the 1830s. After lead was discovered in Mineral Point, many of the early miners migrated from Cornwall to this southwestern Wisconsin area. Pasties can be found in Wisconsin's largest cities, Madison[63] and Milwaukee, as well as in the far northern region along the border with Michigan's Upper Peninsula.[64]
A similar local history about the arrival of the pasty in the area with an influx of Welsh and Cornish miners to the area's copper mines, and its preservation as a local delicacy, is found in Butte, Montana, "The Richest Hill on Earth".[65] Miners referred to the pasty as a "letter from 'ome."[66]
The anthracite coal region of Northeastern Pennsylvania, including Wilkes-Barre, Scranton, and Hazleton, had an influx of miners to the area in the 19th century and brought the pasty with them. In 1981, a Pennsylvania entrepreneur started marketing pasties under the brand name Mr. Pastie.
A Mexican "paste"
The Mexican state of Hidalgo and the twin silver mining cities of Pachuca and Real del Monte (Mineral del Monte) have notable Cornish influences from the Cornish miners who settled there, with pasties being considered typical local cuisine.[67] In Mexican Spanish, they are referred to as pastes.[68] A pasty museum is located in Real del Monte.[69] The annual International Pasty Festival is held in Real del Monte each October.[70]
They are also popular in South Africa, New Zealand,[71] and Ulster.
Pasties were modified with different spices and fillings in Jamaica, giving rise to the Jamaican patty."
Wow! Thanks so much for this information. It was really interesting❤
That's really cool! Thank you for sharing :)
I go to Cornwall most years, and I always have a pasty ! I also bring frozen one home to put in freezer for other times, some bakers make other flavours but none beats a proper Cornish pasty, BTW a lot of Cornish miners went to America to work in the mines there in the north east, they took their recipes with them and to this day they still make them in the north east America , happy days 👍🏻
I lived in Cornwall for a year and go to stay with friends every year and love a good pasty 😊
My papa (grandad) used to make the best pasty in the world. They were the size of my head 😂 taught be how to make one.
Miss you papa
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There's a pastie shop in Looe sells 206 different variants included 5 vegan. You can get pasties in Mexico since a great number of Cornish miners emigrated there, but don't expect an authentic Cornish flavour!
Supposedly, pasties are big in Michigan, too.
If and when you come over you should try them all ,proper cornish pasties ,made in Cornwall, their the best and yes you can get differant flavoured ones ,with differant fillings,try the ones in TINTAGEL VILLAGE BAKERY,many varieties available, it's also the place where KING ARTHUR s Castle is or what's left of it🙂😉😉
Being Australian living in the UK. Pies are one of those meals which always goes down well in each country .The traditional pasty with swede, potatoes onions and beef is amazing, but there are so many variations. Each towns local bakery would have several varieties. Living in the UK, our local Cornish bakery has some amazing flavours with one of my favourites being bacon cheddar and leek.
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I'm Scottish and I love pasties. The Mincemeat he is mentioning is the fruit filling that is in Christmas Mince Pies. We can make homemade mincemeat or buy jars of pre-made mincemeat.
Never knew where *Oggie Oggie Oggie* came from. It's known throughout Britain as a traditional chant at full matches and the response was *Oy Oy Oy*
Shepherd's Pie is made with lamb mince and Cottage Pie is made with beef mince. Cottage Pie is my favourite.
On the other side of the world from Cornwall but my ancestors migrated to NZ from there in the nineteenth century. My grandmother used to make pasties as taught to her by her mother and they were good! Nothing like anything I've had since.
She always called them pasties with the short a as in at or cat.
My Cornish wife makes pastes loves them but my favourite is Steak and Stilton.
My collegues after have a pasty lunch .. I live in cornwall and everyone has a favourite bakery
Apparently there used to be versions divided in the middle so you had your savoury filling in one end and a desert filling in the other.
They are a protected food status. Can only be called Cornish Pasty if made in Cornwall, all parts are cut to an equal size so cooks at the same time. Totally awesome and Cornwall in the UK is a major holiday destination, especially in summer. Fantastic beaches and surfing.
What you need is a chicken tikka pasty. In the UK we stick anything in pastry and eat it.
And yet, when I talk of meat pies in front of Americans, 75% of the time, the response is: "Eeeeww! You put meat in pies?! Gross! That's CRAZY!!"
To which, I reply: "What about pot pies?" And then I get the pleasure of watching them freeze, glassy-eyed, as their brains audibly reboot, followed by:
"Oh, yeah . . . ."
putting a PGI on a Cornish pasty was the best thing they done meaning that to be called a Cornish pasty it has to be made in Cornwall and made in the traditional way
There's a whole lot of difference between eating a cornish pastry fresh from a cornish bakery and some pre packaged offerings you can get.
The other filling option I've eaten is cheese and onion. There are a number of sweet options from a bakery sometimes.
Can't beat a good Pasty, you can get them all over the UK not just in Cornwall. People also make meals with them. Personally I like a good pasty chips and gravy. Yum yum you can put peas baked beans in the meal. Anything goes. Right everybody get sending pies over to the states😂
Oh god no! The only thing you should serve with a pasty is a mug of tea!
@hazza5999 personal choice like I said, people eat them in so many different ways. Make a lovely meal
Looe in Cornwall is a lovely seaside resort and the pasties and cream teas are out of this world.