@@rvb4187 Understandable but there are people who aren't doing the bare minimum AND are getting promoted because of bad management. When people who go above and beyond see this and question it, then you have a future "quiet quitter".
I’ve learned to set boundaries from the start. I’m not working for free, I’m not using my car for free. If I start to hate my job I start looking for another and building savings. If it gets too bad I’ll just quit. It’s a very freeing experience when you get to point that you just don’t care if they fire you anymore, work becomes much less stressful. The bottom line is always have savings and keep expenses low so you’re not strapped and stuck in a job you hate. Peace of mind is worth much more than a new car or bigger home.
Yes, Travis! LOUDER LOUDER LOUDER: "Peace of mind is worth much more than a new car or bigger home" 🙌 Couldn't agree more. There's a lot of talk about quiet quitting at the moment, and there seem to be different interpretations on it. In my opinion setting healthy boundaries isn't the same as quiet quitting. Setting healthy boundaries, and refusing to work for free or letting work be your be-all and end-all (at the expense of many other things) should be the norm, if you ask me! Quiet quitting is more about disengaging from work as a response to problems within an organisation (poor management, toxic work culture, lack of appreciation for employees, work overload etc) or a poor fit between a person and their job. Whilst I completely understand quiet quitting, and would NEVER ever judge anyone for doing it, I don't think it's a healthy strategy or response in the long-term.
I agree. Staying at a toxic environment despite you have quiet quitting is bad for your self esteem in the long term. Have some cash and take some rest slowing down while doing some freelancing while planning what I wanna do next.
Currently in this situation. Working as a medical lab scientist since 2019 and I was the person that always went above and beyond until I slowly lost passion due to the understaffing and negligence by my superiors. Everyday I felt like I can take my talent and work ethic elsewhere and it took me down a very dark road mentally because I knew I can’t just quit out of the blue because I had patients I needed to help. I finally took a 2 week vacation and I’m actually going back to work tomorrow and it’s nice I came across this video. It reminds me nothing is worth the stress and I know I’ve done all I could for the hospital. Past year I’ve been studying heavily on cyber security and it’s time I move on to a new chapter of my life. I’ve had 3 interviews already the past week and about to accept a contract. Wow I can’t believe I just vented on here ha. Anyone who reads this Just know it’ll be okay and that you’ll figure things out.
Hi John, not venting - just sharing, and I appreciate that so much. Your situation will be so relatable to a lot of people. Unfortunately issues like understaffing, negligence by superiors, poor management, and toxic work culture are far too common, and it does a lot of harm to anyone who's subjected to that. I really hope your message will give other people who are going through the same some hope and inspiration. Oh, and HUGE CONGRATS on the new opportunity 🎉 that's so exciting. Reading this put a smile on my face. Best of luck with it all!!
Yes, I agree that there are certainly companies that don't give a flying f&*k (to use your words) about their employees - and I always wonder how those companies continue to exist... BUT that's a whole different conversation. To answer you question "why the hell should anyone 'care' about their job?": most of us will have to work for 40 - 50 years of our lives, 5 days a week, 8 hours a day... so it seems a shame (and waste of time) to me if someone where to spend all that time doing something that they don't care about. Don't you think so?
@@IrisSmyth Thank you for the reply! It seems to me, and I do have limited experience, that most companies are in fact this way, and it makes sense. Unfortunately greed is very pervasive in the human spirit, so its only fitting that companies built/run by humans would exhibit the same traits. At the end of the day, I think as long as the type of work that one is doing is somewhat enjoyable and the benefits gained by being employed are worth showing up and putting forth effort, then work life should be bearable, which I am afraid is all that most can even hope for.
Here's my two cents: don't settle until you find a GOOD employer. A lot of companies are sadly like you describe, but there really are good ones too - and you deserve to find work that's more than 'bearable'.
@@IrisSmyth Thank you, I'm working hard at it, making a career change to a field that is very in demand, so that I can have the freedom to leave companies when they go bad.
I quit a job in 2012 to literally save my life! I knew the hostile work environment was breaking down my health and I had begun to dread each day I went to work. Quitting was the best thing I ever did!
Geez, sounds like you made the right decision to QUIT and not quietly quit. Good on you!! I think quiet quitting in your situation (in a hostile work environment) can only be a slippery slope to misery and more problems. Hope you're in a much better place work wise now!
You were burned the hell out. I'm already there. I finally quietly quit a while ago. The hopelessness, the extenstential dread, the endless amount of depression that comes with doing things you once may have enjoyed, but now find pointless. Yes, all of this. All of it exacerbated with bad micromanaging bosses. It's enough to throw your hands in the air and give up! What do you do?
Yes, I think you're right - I was burnt out! Never got the 'official diagnosis' though, so always finding it hard to actually say I was burnt out. Sorry to hear you're going through so much now. Micromanaging bosses are the worst....! So, when are you hoping to actually quit your job? I - funnily enough - now help people escape jobs or careers they're done with, and transition into something that they enjoy & that gets the best out of them.What do you do?
In the same boat, and the lockdowns seemed to have made it worse. Not in the staying at home bit (this part I loved since introvert and huge time save), but that all other aspects of work got worse. I tried looking for a new job off and on with them all being dead ends which makes the dread even moreso. My plan was to go overemployed while staying quietly quitting a job1 and enjoying expanding myself at job2.
I'm sorry you're in this situation. Job searching can be soul-destroying. I always recommend my 1-2-1 clients to steer clear from job listing sites, and focus on informational interviews instead. I talk about that in this video: th-cam.com/video/wmpWBND7TMo/w-d-xo.html - you might want to check it out. Best of luck with it all.
I've been a quiet quitter since high school. I only took regular classes, didn't do any extracurriculars, got assigned homework done and was content with getting B's. I was a LOT happier than the overachievers who were under chronic stress. Most of them didn't get anything more than I did other than being more ahead for college (which is irreevant cuz I opted to go to trade school).
I’m dealing with exactly the same thing. I was such a positive, happy, healthy girl but for the past 3 years I’ve been to every specialist under the sun for Chronic Fatigue, memory loss and inability to focus. It has taken its toll on my mental health most of all. I have my own business which I love so I’ve been quietly quitting until I get the amount of savings I would like to have before I quit. Pray for me 😅
I'm so sorry you've had to go through all of that Olivia. Praying for you Olivia! It sounds like you're on the right path - I'm rooting for you, and hope you can actually quit your job very soon, so that that positive, happy, and healthy girl can come back too!
I think most importantly, you shouldn't view quiet quitting as a lifestyle. If possible, It probably shouldn't be more than 30 days. Anything longer just creates a lifestyle of hopelessness and existential dread. It really is a way to transition, not to be. I always knew this but the lack of courage to put my best foot forward is making me experience this the hard way right now.
@@worldbystorm90 I agree. It's been time, for a long time. What I don't really quite know how to tackle, which no one ever explains in these videos, is how to continue doing things like eat, afford shelter, clothing etc.. with zero income.
@@zipzorp8858 So true. Though, sometimes I hear them say they live off of saving. I think it might help to get laid off rather than flat out quit. I would do some due diligence and research the option of asking your HR to lay you off if you feel there is no way to salvage your current employment. This way you qualify for unemployment and maybe even severance. This isn't advise or direction, just something to research and think about if it would help with your instance. Best of luck!
@@worldbystorm90 I don't know if I've ever heard of asking o be layed off. Living off of savings isn't a good idea, financially speaking. I put every dime I can into investments. It's a tought call because tbh, my job pays well, the work isn't terribly stressful. I'm just bored out of my mind and the other thing that I want to do isn't this... I feel guilty for complaining about it because I'm pretty sure I have it better than most.
I came totally relate 100% No job is more important than our health. That is why I always keep 6 month it living expense. If I need to quit for any reason I know I’ll one ok for a while find another job. Thanks for sharing your story.
I remember substitute teaching for a teacher that was quiet quitting because of abuse from staff and parents. The kids were absolutely crazy, but I did not blame her
@@JaysonT1 You will be able to better things. And it is meaningful work. But when you see how common neglect is, and how what you do is never enough to fix their broken families, and almost any form of discipline can get you in trouble with administration, it really breaks you down. Currently I am in Thailand setting up a school for Myanmar refugees.
Yup.... As a substitute teacher with over 20 years of experience.... I've seen school principals quit...as in ain't coming back after COVID-19 testing, crazy kids, etc.... Trust me... Teachers AND principals are leaving by dozens. Too much shit in 2021-2022
A job is just a source of income (no more and no less) and it should be done at the same measure that allows you to earn a paycheck also by observing how the job subculture works and NOT doing anybody else’s job period. On the same page if a better paying job with more benefits appears along the way just go for it and say goodbye to the old job 🤷
Hi! That's one way of looking at work - and it's a valid perspective. Work/a job can be more than 'just a source of income' too though. It can provide a sense of purpose or meaning, a sense of belonging. It can be a creative outlet, a way to express yourself, something through which one achieves self-growth, or it can be a way contribute to communities. It can give mental stimulation, and structure - just to name a few things. BUT... work doesn't HAVE to be all these things. It's a bit like a vacation: vacation can be a source of relaxation (some people prefer to take it easy, and hang out on the beach), but it can also be a way to learn new things (for example, when people take cooking lessons, or visit museums), to expand one's horizon, to physically challenge oneself. One isn't better than the other, it's just how people look at it. Same goes for work: some people see it as just a source of income (which is perfectly fine), and others see it as more than that (which is also fine, and certainly not better or superior!)
i loved my job at first,but after a few new hires and folks that left. The culture went down, and the morale is so low. I need the job, however, I will be looking for another one because this is affecting my health. I swear a few bad hires and people not motivated to retain the position can cause a shift in the work culture.
Wow. You were on lamictal too? I have been struggling to bring my A game for months. I thought my bipolar and vestibular migraines were getting worse because I was sacrificing sleep, working harder and harder and getting less and less done. Turns out I’m just burned out. This is confirmation on what I know I need to do. Life happens. Things change.
Meh, no. We should pay health insurance just as we pay car insurance, homeowners insurance, etc. When government gets involved everything gets more expensive and more f'ed up. Our government has been a teain wreck into a dumpster fire full of dirty baby diapers.
Im from the UK where we actually have health care and trust me we still have loads of work drone/sheep types who will go the extra mile for no pay etc etc. I appreciate that the situation is probably worse in USA
Frugalism non consumption and volontary simplicity helps you quietly quit. Save get rid of debt gives you options. Frugality helps me work less enjoy time in nature with family and friends more
You're absolutely right - it gives a lot of freedom and peace of mind to not have debt and financial freedom. Time in nature is also priceless. Thanks for sharing your view Karen!
Very insightful presentation! I'm currently quiet quitting my current capacity. My employer is literally expecting one person to do the work of three people. This is no exaggeration. I have come to the point that I will complete slightly above standards then lay off the gas pedal so to speak. It takes a toll on mental and emotional health. And the current position I am in is 100% remote in a basically recession proof industry. Thankfully, I have a very good lead on another capacity in the very near future that offers promising prospects.
I love that sweater!!!! But I’m in a similar place but because my job is so hands-on it’s really hard to quiet quit but I am working on transitioning out of this role and hopefully into a much better position.
Haha thanks for the comment on the sweater - think you and I are the minority here 😂 I've seen more comments from people who dislike it (which doesn't bother me by the way, beauty is in the eye of the beholder isn't it?) Onto more serious topics though... sorry you're in a similar place - but GOOD ON YOU to be working on transitioning out. I hope you'll soon (like, really soon!) be in a better position. Sending you best of luck!
Hi Iris, just found your Channel and sub’d. Had no idea that this term, “Quietly quitting” even existed. The other realization is that I may or may not have been quietly quitting for many years now! So many factors here and so many thoughts rolling around in my head now. I need to watch more of your vids for advice and take it from there. Been with my current company for, don’t laugh, 24yrs, yep, that’s actually the same amount of time that I’ve been married. I went from being a technician to a supervisor and then a manager in the last 8 yrs and I’d say, if I’m honest, the whole environment makes me feel unhappy and that’s an understatement. I may have typed too much in the comment section but I’m just being honest. Thanks for the vid, hope your channel is a massive hit, as I’m sure it will be, I’ll go and check out some more of your vids, cheers. Mike
Hi Mike, thank you SO much for your honesty and kind words. And apologies for only just responding now. I'm sorry to hear your work environment makes you feel the way you do. I hope my videos (as well as the tons of others on TH-cam, there are some really good and helpful videos on this topic on YT) do help you to figure out what actions to take next. It's a process, so just take it one step at a time - I like what you said about 'taking it from there'. Best of luck! (and I hope to 'see' you back in the comments sections of other videos)
Well Iris, I’m back and I have a very good conclusion for you. When I realized that I was actually a “quietly quitting offender” I decided to do something about it. As of 4wks ago and at the age of 54 with 25yrs in my last job, I resigned! I left a 25yr career in the declining document solutions industry and I’m now a branch manager for a well know very long standing security company and I’m LOVING IT! What a breath of fresh air! I knew I had more in me but I never realized how much I’ve been missing. I have multiple direct reports that respect me, and I’m able to be myself and treat them all fairly and correctly without corporate shoving the rules down my throat and ordering me to do the same to my directs. If I have any advice to anyone on here, it’s this, “It’s never too late, to go and do something else!” I struggled with this myth for many years, and now, I just wish that I’d found your channel or given my head a shake 5 years earlier. Thanks again Iris for all that you do. Bless Mike
My previous job quietly quit me during COVID, before the vaccines. I taught in a prison, but classes were cancelled due to COVID, but I was still expected to come in to work and pretty much do nothing except potentially expose myself and expose others to a deadly disease. Due to my need for a paycheck, I felt as if I didn't have a choice, although I kept looking for other work. Months of that caused terrible stress and ultimately depression. I don't blame the bosses -- they made a choice to keep me and others employed rather than laid off, and I'm grateful for that, but the mental toll was still high.
Phill, gosh, I don't even know where to start. Sorry you had to go through such stress and depression, BUT what a mindset to go through aall of that, and still be grateful. I applaud you for that 👏👏👏 Hope you're "on the other side" of it all now, and that the future is looking bright once again!
The biggest risk in quietly quitting is that you become comfortable with being mediocre. Communists in the Soviet Union used to say, "We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay." Iris is absolutely correct when she encourages us to find a positive work environment instead of accepting a poor situation. If you do quietly quit, just make sure you create an outlet in your life that allows you to be your best self.
Thanks Eric! I 100% agree with this: "If you do quietly quit, just make sure you create an outlet in your life that allows you to be your best self." Also, make sure you only quietly quit for a short period of time.
I think most of the people here are actually top performers who ran into relationship problems due to being a top performer. You want to be good enough to keep your job, but not good enough to get yourself grief. Its not right, but its the way the world is.
Thank you! This is an important aspect of the quiet quitting topic that we need to be able to talk about. A lot of us care about the career we have spent years or decades mastering. Being disillusioned, disempowered, and unnoticed when you are at your best is awful. Responding to that with quiet quitting can cause stagnation and depression. If you are thinking about doing this, be careful! Your health comes first.
Guess you all understood quiet quitting wrongly. Well, i guess that if someone is a fool, is easy to misunderstand something. But try to apply wisdom to the concept of quiet quitting, you will come to the conclusion that quiet quitting is just dont caring too much about work. Its like a stoic philosophy, but for work. Is about getting first things first. Cause my wife and kids, and a long list, come before my job. People should live for themselves, not for the job. The job is only a way to get to live better. If you sacrifice your life and happiness for a job, what is the point of being alive after all?
Don't mistake “quietly quitting” with walking off the job without giving notice. If your employer has a written policy requiring notice, for example two weeks notice, and you just quit without notice you do not have to be paid any unused vacation / personal time under USA Federal law. I quit with three weeks notice after working working sis days a week living in hotels. Went around two states opening new contracts until local employees could be trained. Quit after found my next assignment would be Louisiana. While on paper I worked six days a week seven days were taken up. On Saturday morning I would check out of the hotel, do at least eight hours work (sometimes more) then drive four hours home. Get home around 10pm and go to sleep. Now the hotel room was rented from 2pm Sunday until 10am Saturday. So I woke up Sunday morning and began drive to the out of state hotel. Got in the area about 10am to 11am. Got lunch and food to stock the hotel mini fridge and checked in. I advised my employer that to pay for a hotel Sunday would cost them less than half the cost of overtime to drive to and from the hotel and save on gas and mileage on the company vehicle. These very bright people sat there and said that since my work manifest did not show work being done on Sunday they could not do that. (They were management and could just change that) So I was without the drive to and from the hotel working 20 to 30 hours overtime (some weeks 90 hours total) I got an extra 6 to 8 hours overtime driving fro home to hotel and back. Plus my electric bill was the minimal and I used no gas for my personal vehicle. Spent the first month after quitting sitting under a shade tree reading books burned out.
Yes, 100%! Quiet quitting isn't the same as walking off the job without giving notice - thanks for pointing it out. And hey, sorry you had such a shitty experience and burnt out. I hope you're doing a lot better now.
I'm grateful for traditional doctors/GPs (who can help us to get better from illness and disease) as well as for alternative/holistic health practitioners (who can help us get to the root of some problems). In my opinion, they're both incredibly valuable, and so we need both.
So will YOU be paying my bills if I actually quit? without paying the bills 💸 will affect my health as well - sooooo Been doing that for years in various jobs - quiet quit while looking for other opportunities and then bail.
Wow, I agree. I have stopped caring about my job. And I am currently upgrading my resume, taking courses to keep myself feeling like I am progressing, and applying for jobs. Last time I felt this way I quit my job and covid hit. Not a good idea. It helps to just start the journey towards something new. And occupy yourself with looking for new opportunities and upping your skillset in the direction you want to go.
Sounds like you're taking a more measured approach this time - and that you're doing all the right things by taking courses and upping your skillset whilst being on the lookout for new opportunities. Are you thinking of changing direction completely, or will you stick with the direction that you're already moving in?
@@IrisSmyth sorry if I sounded condescending. 😔 I think this has come with age. I’ve learned through many horrible work experiences that nothing is worth peace of mind- not even all the money in the world.
@@lamorena6379 No, you didn't come across as condescending at all. It was a genuine compliment (and probably should've made that clearer!). It's so nice and good to read statements/views like yours - you're so clear on what's worth it, and what isn't. I'm sorry you had to learn it (too) through horrible work experiences, but at least it's brought that clarity and confidence that not even all the money in the world is worth it if you don't have peace of mind 💛
Thanks for your vid. Right now I'm in a similar place in my life where I'm so burnt out that I'm tired all the time. I don't have any time to do the things that I love anymore. I'm stressed when I go to bed and I'm stressed when I wake up. I wake up in the middle of the night worrying about work stuff with my heart literally pounding I'm my ears. The worst thing is I don't even get paid for the extra work that I do. I'm contemplating getting sleeping pills because I just dont feel rested anymore. I also deeply regret the carreer path I took and even though I'm good at it I just don't care about it. I'm not sure what to do yet but I'm planning to move or go back to school
hey, sorry for the super late response to your comment. Firstly, thanks for taking the time to post a comment. I hope this video helped you a bit, perhaps to make some initial changes. Hope you've managed to turn some things around by now, and recover from your burnout. Have you moved or gone back to school?
YES! Only taking jobs that you find interesting should really be the norm, but sadly it’s not always not the case (for so many reasons - some legitimate, some less so, but probably still understandable!)
I am kind of in this situation. I keep the work done that is obvious in the billables and such, but on the work that only I am able to see my progress in, I am sadly 7 months behind. I don't know what to do. I am the only one who is certified (allowed by the National body that oversees my work), to do my job so I am a one man show, but that same governing body has incrementally over the last decade made the job I do more and more complicated and time consuming so that what I was once able to barely do, I now mathematically don't have enough paid time during the year to complete it. No hourly raises in the last 16-17 years, I don't have time to take any of the so-called 3 weeks of paid vacation I get, I was singled out as the only one in my department to not get a year end/Christmas bonus and I have to spend nights and weekends completing my work. I've lost all motivation for this job. Mid 40s, no degree, and no light at the end of the tunnel. Some might say, "What if your employer saw this comment?" Maybe secretly, I wish they did so at least they would fire me and free me from the hopeless backlog of work.
If there was a "care" button, I would've used it (instead of the "love" button). I'm so sorry you're in this horrible situation, my heart broke for you while reading it. Thank you for your honesty. I hope you can find a way out sooner than later. Out of curiosity - what would you do next if you were fired?
@@IrisSmyth thank you, sometimes just being heard has a slight uplifting effect to the soul. To answer your question, I have come to the realization that computer work sucks the life out of me, at least in its current capacity. Seems I would like to do something to work with my hands, get outside, and break a sweat. Be my own boss.
That's a good starting point! Would it be possible to start doing something with your hands/get outside/break a sweat as a personal pursuit outside of your job? I've often seen that reconnecting with something like that (something that excites you and makes you feel good) can have a really positive effect on one's mental/emotional state - it could perhaps start to lift the clouds, so to speak.
Just a follow up, I quit that job and became self-employed in the same industry but a lower position. I'm making the same income, being my own boss, and I couldn't be happier!
It eventually ended up with me just not showing up one day but it's no big deal cause I'm rehirable at a different job. Finally taking a month long break before I start working again to fix my mental.
I feel it's important to have alternative sources of satisfaction with work, in this case I take my satisfaction with various hobbies. My work habitually punishes success, so today it only exists to pay the bills, it is otherwise just in the way of my now true goals and progress.
Hi! That's great, that you take satisfaction from various hobbies. I've come to believe that work can contribute to a sense of purpose, meaning, and satisfaction, with the emphasis on 'contribute'. If feeling a sense of purpose, meaning, and satisfaction in our lives is a goal, then work is certainly not the only way to achieve that. It's simply one of the vehicles to get there (and sometimes it can get in the way too, yes)
I "quiet quit" my job until I actually quit my job, that place sucked. If you're a manager who doesn't do the bare minimum of your own job, you shouldn't expect more from other people. Bad managers and employers are the only people complaining about "quiet quitters".
Can I say something about for quitting? I had a bunch of men in India making saddlery Coke. They had to go back to factoru I don’t think that was very fair.
Wow, thank you - so kind of you to share that with me. A lot of practise went into it! Hoping to continue to grow my skill. Have a great weekend, wherever in the world you are :)
"Despite what people around you might say" - That's easy to say if you are not the main wage earner, husband and father, that is keeping a roof above the family heads.
Hey, thanks for speaking up! I acknowledge and appreciate that's a lot of responsibility to carry, and apologies for coming across as insensitive to that. What I meant with this was not to disregard others who depend on you, and at the same time not to disregard your own gut feeling and/or needs. If someone has this very strong sense that they're better off leaving their current job or changing careers, then it's important to listen to that, and find a way to make that happen. As you say: not always easy, but at the same time not impossible.
I’m a mom and I make more money than my husband so I would be considered the main earner. Times have changed so don’t assume that fathers and husbands are the main earners anymore. Being in this position you can still use this approach by having boundaries from the start and not getting to the point where you feel desperate to leave.
@@ArdillaINC No need to become defensive. I was talking about myself and I happen to be male and a father. Of course it applies to women if they are the main wage earner. That is obvious.
@@tnetroP I’m jus Tara ring a fact in case you meant something else. And it was not obvious from your comment. No need to be defensive to my clarification of a generalization
Haha nope, not mice 😂 Believe it or not, I bought it this way. Yep, it’s supposed to look like this. Though I guess you’re right, mice could’ve created the same effect 😉
@@instagamrr No apologies needed, I didn't take it personally. And don't think it's just you - some other people have commented on it too (though not that mice had eaten it) 😂 I don't mind, some comments were actually quite funny and sharp.
The great thing about fashion is that we all have our own tastes.. im sorry that you missed out on such an inspiring talk because you were focused on her sweater
@@IrisSmyth definitely miserable and burnt out. I work in a glass factory in the US owned by a billion dollar corporation. The only people not miserable and burned out are those that manipulated and kissed butt long enough to get to positions of power, who then create miserable conditions for everyone else. Or at best,managers do the bare minimum. Just the other day I told a manager that one of the production line workers, to save herself 30 seconds of work every 20 minutes, would just leave racks in other people's way, creating more work for others. She has the easiest job in the plant, that day her job was "do 4 minutes work then sit and watch the machine run for 16 minutes". My bosses answer? "I just ignore her". This happens a hundred times a day, creating an environment where the sleaziest and most ruthless employees get their way,anyone trying to be honest gets walked all over. Multiple people sabotaged my station to make my metrics look bad,and after two years and imo having solid evidence proving sabotage, the most I got was "Id bet there are people like that in every area, moving out of this one isn't going to change anything". The idea of confronting or catching the person/people never even came up. Just this week a manager took advantage of a Hispanic woman, telling her she had mandated overtime every week. She doesn't realize that she works more shifts than others. One guy refuses to come in for overtime, and instead of confronting him , the manager makes her work her overtime AND his, so he doesn't have to answer to his boss, or other managers. When I asked my manager why she had mandated overtime again so soon, he said she volunteered. She told me as best as she could that she is tired of being mandated every week (12 hour shifts). They want me to be a warehouse Lead, so to move up I'd have to be part of a system that makes a pretty nice lady work extra hours to save a manager having to reprimand someone, or deal with the company's bad policies. Sorry for the long reply. :)
@@Zornotfugen Gosh, Shane, I'm sorry. Please don't apologise for writing a detailed response back. This sounds like a horrible situation to be in, and not a healthy one for anyone involved. I hope you can find a way out, and find a job at a place where people are being treated fairly and respectfully - in essence: where they're being treated as human beings! It maddens me that places that treat people like disposable resources continue to exist - I guess that's the idealist or utopian side in me.
@@Zornotfugen very interesting, I am also facing a similar situation with stupid management not seeing who works hard and who doesn't or just simply ignoring it. And even like you some cases of sabotaging. I don't want to be a manager there as I don't want to be a part of this system, nor do I want to fix it. I just do my job. Over with the extras but no appreciation.
I see it as stopping your boss from stealing from you. Work weeks are supposed to be 40 hours - when they expect you to work 80 then they are stealing 40 hours from their employees.
I think the fact that people (like you) keep saying that quiet quitting is cowardace is the reason why others stay in a job for years even though it makes them unhappy/not happy (there is a difference) and they have quietly quit on not only that job, but on their dreams, their happiness and on themselves. People are so quick to judge and throw the word cowardace around that this isn't something people feel comfortable enough to discuss, so they think they are the only one's going through this and therefore just keep on going through it. My opinion is that staying in a job where you are miserable is cowardace because its the easy and reliable thing to do... quitting your job and venturing into the unknown is risky, yet exciting and that is not cowardace. We have this one life... who knows how many years we'll live... who knows how many days you have left. Isn't it cowardly to pretend that you have forever to live and just stay alive eventhough you are not living?
All while those who strive a little more will get a higher bonus rate, higher pay increases and promotions. Yes, continue with your #quietquitting while wondering why you didn’t get that promotion or important seat at the table. And when the dreadful decision to right-size the company comes along, you’ll be amongst the first to go. Good luck with that!! 🤣
You are really either very young or a relative of the boss. Very few promotions are based on talent or putting in extra work? Most are based on connections. There might be a few companies that look at actual work but most do not.
"Quiet quitting" is what used to be called "doing your job." More and more, jobs expect workers to do more and more work for free; it's ridiculous.
On the flip side, there are employees who are just "doing their job" and then bitch about not moving up in ranks.
Right? That is quiet hiring ;)
@@rvb4187 Understandable but there are people who aren't doing the bare minimum AND are getting promoted because of bad management. When people who go above and beyond see this and question it, then you have a future "quiet quitter".
I’ve learned to set boundaries from the start. I’m not working for free, I’m not using my car for free. If I start to hate my job I start looking for another and building savings. If it gets too bad I’ll just quit. It’s a very freeing experience when you get to point that you just don’t care if they fire you anymore, work becomes much less stressful. The bottom line is always have savings and keep expenses low so you’re not strapped and stuck in a job you hate. Peace of mind is worth much more than a new car or bigger home.
Yes, Travis! LOUDER LOUDER LOUDER: "Peace of mind is worth much more than a new car or bigger home" 🙌 Couldn't agree more. There's a lot of talk about quiet quitting at the moment, and there seem to be different interpretations on it. In my opinion setting healthy boundaries isn't the same as quiet quitting. Setting healthy boundaries, and refusing to work for free or letting work be your be-all and end-all (at the expense of many other things) should be the norm, if you ask me! Quiet quitting is more about disengaging from work as a response to problems within an organisation (poor management, toxic work culture, lack of appreciation for employees, work overload etc) or a poor fit between a person and their job. Whilst I completely understand quiet quitting, and would NEVER ever judge anyone for doing it, I don't think it's a healthy strategy or response in the long-term.
@Travis Martinson: I'm the same, and I never used my own car for work, seeing how owning and maintaining a car today costs such a fortune !
I agree. Staying at a toxic environment despite you have quiet quitting is bad for your self esteem in the long term. Have some cash and take some rest slowing down while doing some freelancing while planning what I wanna do next.
I’ve learned to set boundaries from the start - BRAVO - this is essential imo. Good advice about having that financial buffer
I think your sweater is quietly quitting. 😁
😂😂
I think it looks awesome.
@@fashionforwardfellow Thanks! I (obvoiusly) think so too, but appreciate fashion/beauty is in the eye of the beholder 😊
@@IrisSmyth I think I love you
That came out of the blue! But thank you 😉
Currently in this situation. Working as a medical lab scientist since 2019 and I was the person that always went above and beyond until I slowly lost passion due to the understaffing and negligence by my superiors. Everyday I felt like I can take my talent and work ethic elsewhere and it took me down a very dark road mentally because I knew I can’t just quit out of the blue because I had patients I needed to help. I finally took a 2 week vacation and I’m actually going back to work tomorrow and it’s nice I came across this video. It reminds me nothing is worth the stress and I know I’ve done all I could for the hospital. Past year I’ve been studying heavily on cyber security and it’s time I move on to a new chapter of my life. I’ve had 3 interviews already the past week and about to accept a contract. Wow I can’t believe I just vented on here ha. Anyone who reads this Just know it’ll be okay and that you’ll figure things out.
Hi John, not venting - just sharing, and I appreciate that so much. Your situation will be so relatable to a lot of people. Unfortunately issues like understaffing, negligence by superiors, poor management, and toxic work culture are far too common, and it does a lot of harm to anyone who's subjected to that. I really hope your message will give other people who are going through the same some hope and inspiration.
Oh, and HUGE CONGRATS on the new opportunity 🎉 that's so exciting. Reading this put a smile on my face. Best of luck with it all!!
Modern companies don't give a flying f&*k about me or you, or any employee, so why the hell should anyone 'care' about their job?
Yes, I agree that there are certainly companies that don't give a flying f&*k (to use your words) about their employees - and I always wonder how those companies continue to exist... BUT that's a whole different conversation.
To answer you question "why the hell should anyone 'care' about their job?": most of us will have to work for 40 - 50 years of our lives, 5 days a week, 8 hours a day... so it seems a shame (and waste of time) to me if someone where to spend all that time doing something that they don't care about. Don't you think so?
@@IrisSmyth Thank you for the reply! It seems to me, and I do have limited experience, that most companies are in fact this way, and it makes sense. Unfortunately greed is very pervasive in the human spirit, so its only fitting that companies built/run by humans would exhibit the same traits. At the end of the day, I think as long as the type of work that one is doing is somewhat enjoyable and the benefits gained by being employed are worth showing up and putting forth effort, then work life should be bearable, which I am afraid is all that most can even hope for.
Here's my two cents: don't settle until you find a GOOD employer. A lot of companies are sadly like you describe, but there really are good ones too - and you deserve to find work that's more than 'bearable'.
@@IrisSmyth Thank you, I'm working hard at it, making a career change to a field that is very in demand, so that I can have the freedom to leave companies when they go bad.
@@simbadlemarin1815 Good luck! I'm wishing you all the best with it!
I quit a job in 2012 to literally save my life! I knew the hostile work environment was breaking down my health and I had begun to dread each day I went to work. Quitting was the best thing I ever did!
Geez, sounds like you made the right decision to QUIT and not quietly quit. Good on you!! I think quiet quitting in your situation (in a hostile work environment) can only be a slippery slope to misery and more problems. Hope you're in a much better place work wise now!
It sounds so drastic to do that but you speak 100% truth!!!! Nobody knows what it does to you until you’re in it!
You were burned the hell out. I'm already there. I finally quietly quit a while ago. The hopelessness, the extenstential dread, the endless amount of depression that comes with doing things you once may have enjoyed, but now find pointless. Yes, all of this. All of it exacerbated with bad micromanaging bosses. It's enough to throw your hands in the air and give up! What do you do?
Yes, I think you're right - I was burnt out! Never got the 'official diagnosis' though, so always finding it hard to actually say I was burnt out.
Sorry to hear you're going through so much now. Micromanaging bosses are the worst....! So, when are you hoping to actually quit your job?
I - funnily enough - now help people escape jobs or careers they're done with, and transition into something that they enjoy & that gets the best out of them.What do you do?
In the same boat, and the lockdowns seemed to have made it worse. Not in the staying at home bit (this part I loved since introvert and huge time save), but that all other aspects of work got worse. I tried looking for a new job off and on with them all being dead ends which makes the dread even moreso. My plan was to go overemployed while staying quietly quitting a job1 and enjoying expanding myself at job2.
I'm sorry you're in this situation. Job searching can be soul-destroying. I always recommend my 1-2-1 clients to steer clear from job listing sites, and focus on informational interviews instead. I talk about that in this video: th-cam.com/video/wmpWBND7TMo/w-d-xo.html - you might want to check it out.
Best of luck with it all.
Wow Gregory you hit the nail on the head!!!!
I've been a quiet quitter since high school. I only took regular classes, didn't do any extracurriculars, got assigned homework done and was content with getting B's.
I was a LOT happier than the overachievers who were under chronic stress. Most of them didn't get anything more than I did other than being more ahead for college (which is irreevant cuz I opted to go to trade school).
Life is about balance.
People who goes extremely high, are surely unbalanced
I’m dealing with exactly the same thing. I was such a positive, happy, healthy girl but for the past 3 years I’ve been to every specialist under the sun for Chronic Fatigue, memory loss and inability to focus. It has taken its toll on my mental health most of all. I have my own business which I love so I’ve been quietly quitting until I get the amount of savings I would like to have before I quit. Pray for me 😅
I'm so sorry you've had to go through all of that Olivia. Praying for you Olivia! It sounds like you're on the right path - I'm rooting for you, and hope you can actually quit your job very soon, so that that positive, happy, and healthy girl can come back too!
Chronic stress debilitates us over time! Sometimes it takes a lot to drive the point home to us!
I think most importantly, you shouldn't view quiet quitting as a lifestyle. If possible, It probably shouldn't be more than 30 days. Anything longer just creates a lifestyle of hopelessness and existential dread. It really is a way to transition, not to be. I always knew this but the lack of courage to put my best foot forward is making me experience this the hard way right now.
Now that you've actually spelled it out, what you just said is explaining what's been going on with my life these past many years.
@@zipzorp8858 It's time to make a change.
@@worldbystorm90 I agree. It's been time, for a long time. What I don't really quite know how to tackle, which no one ever explains in these videos, is how to continue doing things like eat, afford shelter, clothing etc.. with zero income.
@@zipzorp8858 So true. Though, sometimes I hear them say they live off of saving. I think it might help to get laid off rather than flat out quit. I would do some due diligence and research the option of asking your HR to lay you off if you feel there is no way to salvage your current employment. This way you qualify for unemployment and maybe even severance. This isn't advise or direction, just something to research and think about if it would help with your instance. Best of luck!
@@worldbystorm90 I don't know if I've ever heard of asking o be layed off. Living off of savings isn't a good idea, financially speaking. I put every dime I can into investments. It's a tought call because tbh, my job pays well, the work isn't terribly stressful. I'm just bored out of my mind and the other thing that I want to do isn't this... I feel guilty for complaining about it because I'm pretty sure I have it better than most.
I came totally relate 100% No job is more important than our health. That is why I always keep 6 month it living expense. If I need to quit for any reason I know I’ll one ok for a while find another job. Thanks for sharing your story.
Such a smart "rule" to have in your life. Thanks for sharing!
I remember substitute teaching for a teacher that was quiet quitting because of abuse from staff and parents. The kids were absolutely crazy, but I did not blame her
Geez, that sounds hectic. I would not blame her for actually quitting her job in a situation like that.
Awe! Don't say that! I'm starting full time substituting this month in hopes to better shit!
@@JaysonT1 Good luck.
@@JaysonT1 You will be able to better things. And it is meaningful work. But when you see how common neglect is, and how what you do is never enough to fix their broken families, and almost any form of discipline can get you in trouble with administration, it really breaks you down. Currently I am in Thailand setting up a school for Myanmar refugees.
Yup....
As a substitute teacher with over 20 years of experience....
I've seen school principals quit...as in ain't coming back after COVID-19 testing, crazy kids, etc....
Trust me...
Teachers AND principals are leaving by dozens.
Too much shit in 2021-2022
A job is just a source of income (no more and no less) and it should be done at the same measure that allows you to earn a paycheck also by observing how the job subculture works and NOT doing anybody else’s job period. On the same page if a better paying job with more benefits appears along the way just go for it and say goodbye to the old job 🤷
Hi! That's one way of looking at work - and it's a valid perspective. Work/a job can be more than 'just a source of income' too though. It can provide a sense of purpose or meaning, a sense of belonging. It can be a creative outlet, a way to express yourself, something through which one achieves self-growth, or it can be a way contribute to communities. It can give mental stimulation, and structure - just to name a few things.
BUT... work doesn't HAVE to be all these things. It's a bit like a vacation: vacation can be a source of relaxation (some people prefer to take it easy, and hang out on the beach), but it can also be a way to learn new things (for example, when people take cooking lessons, or visit museums), to expand one's horizon, to physically challenge oneself. One isn't better than the other, it's just how people look at it. Same goes for work: some people see it as just a source of income (which is perfectly fine), and others see it as more than that (which is also fine, and certainly not better or superior!)
i loved my job at first,but after a few new hires and folks that left. The culture went down, and the morale is so low. I need the job, however, I will be looking for another one because this is affecting my health. I swear a few bad hires and people not motivated to retain the position can cause a shift in the work culture.
100%
I hope you'll find another job soon. You're absolutely right - bad fits and demotivated people can shift everything.
Wow. You were on lamictal too? I have been struggling to bring my A game for months. I thought my bipolar and vestibular migraines were getting worse because I was sacrificing sleep, working harder and harder and getting less and less done.
Turns out I’m just burned out. This is confirmation on what I know I need to do.
Life happens. Things change.
Yeah I don't think lamictal was a good friend of mine... 😂
Hope you're getting better, and taking care of yourself.
Health insurance that's tied to employment keeps Americans living in fear.
Universal health care is the solution.
Meh, no. We should pay health insurance just as we pay car insurance, homeowners insurance, etc. When government gets involved everything gets more expensive and more f'ed up. Our government has been a teain wreck into a dumpster fire full of dirty baby diapers.
Im from the UK where we actually have health care and trust me we still have loads of work drone/sheep types who will go the extra mile for no pay etc etc. I appreciate that the situation is probably worse in USA
Frugalism non consumption and volontary simplicity helps you quietly quit. Save get rid of debt gives you options. Frugality helps me work less enjoy time in nature with family and friends more
You're absolutely right - it gives a lot of freedom and peace of mind to not have debt and financial freedom. Time in nature is also priceless. Thanks for sharing your view Karen!
Very insightful presentation! I'm currently quiet quitting my current capacity. My employer is literally expecting one person to do the work of three people. This is no exaggeration. I have come to the point that I will complete slightly above standards then lay off the gas pedal so to speak. It takes a toll on mental and emotional health. And the current position I am in is 100% remote in a basically recession proof industry. Thankfully, I have a very good lead on another capacity in the very near future that offers promising prospects.
Thank you! And sorry that you're currently in such a tough position. Hope that new lead will come through and work out for you 🤞 Best of luck!!
@@IrisSmyth Thank you very much for your kind sentiments. I appreciate it. Best regards, Rick
I love that sweater!!!! But I’m in a similar place but because my job is so hands-on it’s really hard to quiet quit but I am working on transitioning out of this role and hopefully into a much better position.
Haha thanks for the comment on the sweater - think you and I are the minority here 😂 I've seen more comments from people who dislike it (which doesn't bother me by the way, beauty is in the eye of the beholder isn't it?)
Onto more serious topics though... sorry you're in a similar place - but GOOD ON YOU to be working on transitioning out. I hope you'll soon (like, really soon!) be in a better position. Sending you best of luck!
Hi Iris, just found your Channel and sub’d. Had no idea that this term, “Quietly quitting” even existed. The other realization is that I may or may not have been quietly quitting for many years now! So many factors here and so many thoughts rolling around in my head now. I need to watch more of your vids for advice and take it from there. Been with my current company for, don’t laugh, 24yrs, yep, that’s actually the same amount of time that I’ve been married. I went from being a technician to a supervisor and then a manager in the last 8 yrs and I’d say, if I’m honest, the whole environment makes me feel unhappy and that’s an understatement. I may have typed too much in the comment section but I’m just being honest. Thanks for the vid, hope your channel is a massive hit, as I’m sure it will be, I’ll go and check out some more of your vids, cheers.
Mike
Hi Mike, thank you SO much for your honesty and kind words. And apologies for only just responding now. I'm sorry to hear your work environment makes you feel the way you do. I hope my videos (as well as the tons of others on TH-cam, there are some really good and helpful videos on this topic on YT) do help you to figure out what actions to take next. It's a process, so just take it one step at a time - I like what you said about 'taking it from there'. Best of luck! (and I hope to 'see' you back in the comments sections of other videos)
Well Iris, I’m back and I have a very good conclusion for you. When I realized that I was actually a “quietly quitting offender” I decided to do something about it. As of 4wks ago and at the age of 54 with 25yrs in my last job, I resigned! I left a 25yr career in the declining document solutions industry and I’m now a branch manager for a well know very long standing security company and I’m LOVING IT!
What a breath of fresh air! I knew I had more in me but I never realized how much I’ve been missing.
I have multiple direct reports that respect me, and I’m able to be myself and treat them all fairly and correctly without corporate shoving the rules down my throat and ordering me to do the same to my directs.
If I have any advice to anyone on here, it’s this, “It’s never too late, to go and do something else!”
I struggled with this myth for many years, and now, I just wish that I’d found your channel or given my head a shake 5 years earlier.
Thanks again Iris for all that you do.
Bless
Mike
Thank you for this, you have no idea how much I needed this today ❤️
You're not alone in this Christy ❤
Thanks for watching! Let me know your thoughts on quiet quitting 👇 Have you done it? Would you do it?
My previous job quietly quit me during COVID, before the vaccines. I taught in a prison, but classes were cancelled due to COVID, but I was still expected to come in to work and pretty much do nothing except potentially expose myself and expose others to a deadly disease. Due to my need for a paycheck, I felt as if I didn't have a choice, although I kept looking for other work. Months of that caused terrible stress and ultimately depression. I don't blame the bosses -- they made a choice to keep me and others employed rather than laid off, and I'm grateful for that, but the mental toll was still high.
Phill, gosh, I don't even know where to start. Sorry you had to go through such stress and depression, BUT what a mindset to go through aall of that, and still be grateful. I applaud you for that 👏👏👏 Hope you're "on the other side" of it all now, and that the future is looking bright once again!
First of all it’s not deadly at all
The biggest risk in quietly quitting is that you become comfortable with being mediocre. Communists in the Soviet Union used to say, "We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay." Iris is absolutely correct when she encourages us to find a positive work environment instead of accepting a poor situation. If you do quietly quit, just make sure you create an outlet in your life that allows you to be your best self.
Thanks Eric! I 100% agree with this: "If you do quietly quit, just make sure you create an outlet in your life that allows you to be your best self." Also, make sure you only quietly quit for a short period of time.
I am sorry to hear. I am quiet quitting only because I am looking for a new job since it is pointless to put more effort, not gonna be long term
Hope you'll find something else soon! Rooting for you.
I think most of the people here are actually top performers who ran into relationship problems due to being a top performer. You want to be good enough to keep your job, but not good enough to get yourself grief. Its not right, but its the way the world is.
Thank you! This is an important aspect of the quiet quitting topic that we need to be able to talk about. A lot of us care about the career we have spent years or decades mastering. Being disillusioned, disempowered, and unnoticed when you are at your best is awful. Responding to that with quiet quitting can cause stagnation and depression.
If you are thinking about doing this, be careful! Your health comes first.
Health come first, always! Thanks for adding valuable and important points to the discussion :)
Guess you all understood quiet quitting wrongly.
Well, i guess that if someone is a fool, is easy to misunderstand something.
But try to apply wisdom to the concept of quiet quitting, you will come to the conclusion that quiet quitting is just dont caring too much about work.
Its like a stoic philosophy, but for work. Is about getting first things first. Cause my wife and kids, and a long list, come before my job.
People should live for themselves, not for the job. The job is only a way to get to live better.
If you sacrifice your life and happiness for a job, what is the point of being alive after all?
Don't mistake “quietly quitting” with walking off the job without giving notice.
If your employer has a written policy requiring notice, for example two weeks notice, and you just quit without notice you do not have to be paid any unused vacation / personal time under USA Federal law.
I quit with three weeks notice after working working sis days a week living in hotels. Went around two states opening new contracts until local employees could be trained. Quit after found my next assignment would be Louisiana.
While on paper I worked six days a week seven days were taken up. On Saturday morning I would check out of the hotel, do at least eight hours work (sometimes more) then drive four hours home. Get home around 10pm and go to sleep. Now the hotel room was rented from 2pm Sunday until 10am Saturday. So I woke up Sunday morning and began drive to the out of state hotel. Got in the area about 10am to 11am. Got lunch and food to stock the hotel mini fridge and checked in.
I advised my employer that to pay for a hotel Sunday would cost them less than half the cost of overtime to drive to and from the hotel and save on gas and mileage on the company vehicle. These very bright people sat there and said that since my work manifest did not show work being done on Sunday they could not do that. (They were management and could just change that) So I was without the drive to and from the hotel working 20 to 30 hours overtime (some weeks 90 hours total) I got an extra 6 to 8 hours overtime driving fro home to hotel and back. Plus my electric bill was the minimal and I used no gas for my personal vehicle.
Spent the first month after quitting sitting under a shade tree reading books burned out.
Yes, 100%! Quiet quitting isn't the same as walking off the job without giving notice - thanks for pointing it out.
And hey, sorry you had such a shitty experience and burnt out. I hope you're doing a lot better now.
Doctors practice medicine. They write prescriptions. They don't resolve the source of the problem. Best wishes
Dude… they literally do both. Unless you’re talking about a GP
I'm grateful for traditional doctors/GPs (who can help us to get better from illness and disease) as well as for alternative/holistic health practitioners (who can help us get to the root of some problems). In my opinion, they're both incredibly valuable, and so we need both.
So will YOU be paying my bills if I actually quit? without paying the bills 💸 will affect my health as well - sooooo
Been doing that for years in various jobs - quiet quit while looking for other opportunities and then bail.
Wow, I agree. I have stopped caring about my job. And I am currently upgrading my resume, taking courses to keep myself feeling like I am progressing, and applying for jobs. Last time I felt this way I quit my job and covid hit. Not a good idea. It helps to just start the journey towards something new. And occupy yourself with looking for new opportunities and upping your skillset in the direction you want to go.
Sounds like you're taking a more measured approach this time - and that you're doing all the right things by taking courses and upping your skillset whilst being on the lookout for new opportunities. Are you thinking of changing direction completely, or will you stick with the direction that you're already moving in?
This video has saved many lives. Thanks for the wise information.
If a job ever pushed me to the point of even thinking about resorting to taking any type of drugs, I’m ditching the job. That’s a no-brainer to me.
Sounds like you're a lot wiser than I am! I had to learn it the hard way. Won't happen again now though 😊
@@IrisSmyth sorry if I sounded condescending. 😔 I think this has come with age. I’ve learned through many horrible work experiences that nothing is worth peace of mind- not even all the money in the world.
@@lamorena6379 No, you didn't come across as condescending at all. It was a genuine compliment (and probably should've made that clearer!). It's so nice and good to read statements/views like yours - you're so clear on what's worth it, and what isn't.
I'm sorry you had to learn it (too) through horrible work experiences, but at least it's brought that clarity and confidence that not even all the money in the world is worth it if you don't have peace of mind 💛
Thanks for your vid. Right now I'm in a similar place in my life where I'm so burnt out that I'm tired all the time. I don't have any time to do the things that I love anymore. I'm stressed when I go to bed and I'm stressed when I wake up. I wake up in the middle of the night worrying about work stuff with my heart literally pounding I'm my ears. The worst thing is I don't even get paid for the extra work that I do.
I'm contemplating getting sleeping pills because I just dont feel rested anymore. I also deeply regret the carreer path I took and even though I'm good at it I just don't care about it. I'm not sure what to do yet but I'm planning to move or go back to school
hey, sorry for the super late response to your comment. Firstly, thanks for taking the time to post a comment. I hope this video helped you a bit, perhaps to make some initial changes. Hope you've managed to turn some things around by now, and recover from your burnout. Have you moved or gone back to school?
Enjoying this already for years. I only take on jobs that I actually find interesting. - INTP
YES! Only taking jobs that you find interesting should really be the norm, but sadly it’s not always not the case (for so many reasons - some legitimate, some less so, but probably still understandable!)
I am kind of in this situation. I keep the work done that is obvious in the billables and such, but on the work that only I am able to see my progress in, I am sadly 7 months behind. I don't know what to do. I am the only one who is certified (allowed by the National body that oversees my work), to do my job so I am a one man show, but that same governing body has incrementally over the last decade made the job I do more and more complicated and time consuming so that what I was once able to barely do, I now mathematically don't have enough paid time during the year to complete it.
No hourly raises in the last 16-17 years, I don't have time to take any of the so-called 3 weeks of paid vacation I get, I was singled out as the only one in my department to not get a year end/Christmas bonus and I have to spend nights and weekends completing my work. I've lost all motivation for this job.
Mid 40s, no degree, and no light at the end of the tunnel. Some might say, "What if your employer saw this comment?" Maybe secretly, I wish they did so at least they would fire me and free me from the hopeless backlog of work.
If there was a "care" button, I would've used it (instead of the "love" button). I'm so sorry you're in this horrible situation, my heart broke for you while reading it. Thank you for your honesty. I hope you can find a way out sooner than later. Out of curiosity - what would you do next if you were fired?
@@IrisSmyth thank you, sometimes just being heard has a slight uplifting effect to the soul. To answer your question, I have come to the realization that computer work sucks the life out of me, at least in its current capacity. Seems I would like to do something to work with my hands, get outside, and break a sweat. Be my own boss.
That's a good starting point! Would it be possible to start doing something with your hands/get outside/break a sweat as a personal pursuit outside of your job? I've often seen that reconnecting with something like that (something that excites you and makes you feel good) can have a really positive effect on one's mental/emotional state - it could perhaps start to lift the clouds, so to speak.
Just a follow up, I quit that job and became self-employed in the same industry but a lower position.
I'm making the same income, being my own boss, and I couldn't be happier!
It eventually ended up with me just not showing up one day but it's no big deal cause I'm rehirable at a different job. Finally taking a month long break before I start working again to fix my mental.
I feel it's important to have alternative sources of satisfaction with work, in this case I take my satisfaction with various hobbies. My work habitually punishes success, so today it only exists to pay the bills, it is otherwise just in the way of my now true goals and progress.
Hi! That's great, that you take satisfaction from various hobbies. I've come to believe that work can contribute to a sense of purpose, meaning, and satisfaction, with the emphasis on 'contribute'. If feeling a sense of purpose, meaning, and satisfaction in our lives is a goal, then work is certainly not the only way to achieve that. It's simply one of the vehicles to get there (and sometimes it can get in the way too, yes)
I "quiet quit" my job until I actually quit my job, that place sucked. If you're a manager who doesn't do the bare minimum of your own job, you shouldn't expect more from other people.
Bad managers and employers are the only people complaining about "quiet quitters".
Hope you've found a new work place that doesn't suck 😊
I do the bare minimum at work
thank you for sharing your experience, this is very helpful
Thanks for taking the time to let me know Pasquale! And glad you found it helpful. Hope you're not going through the same.
Can I say something about for quitting? I had a bunch of men in India making saddlery Coke. They had to go back to factoru I don’t think that was very fair.
It's been a year. I hope not late to chime in. Boy do I have a story. Like nothing I've ever faced
Quietly quitting has been out for decades. Now you guys have a name for it.
I'm curious... who are "you guys"?
Congratulations! You are an outstanding presenter! What an engaging video!
Wow, thank you - so kind of you to share that with me. A lot of practise went into it! Hoping to continue to grow my skill. Have a great weekend, wherever in the world you are :)
Awesome advice.
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"Despite what people around you might say"
- That's easy to say if you are not the main wage earner, husband and father, that is keeping a roof above the family heads.
Hey, thanks for speaking up! I acknowledge and appreciate that's a lot of responsibility to carry, and apologies for coming across as insensitive to that. What I meant with this was not to disregard others who depend on you, and at the same time not to disregard your own gut feeling and/or needs. If someone has this very strong sense that they're better off leaving their current job or changing careers, then it's important to listen to that, and find a way to make that happen. As you say: not always easy, but at the same time not impossible.
I’m a mom and I make more money than my husband so I would be considered the main earner. Times have changed so don’t assume that fathers and husbands are the main earners anymore. Being in this position you can still use this approach by having boundaries from the start and not getting to the point where you feel desperate to leave.
@@ArdillaINC No need to become defensive. I was talking about myself and I happen to be male and a father. Of course it applies to women if they are the main wage earner. That is obvious.
@@tnetroP I’m jus Tara ring a fact in case you meant something else. And it was not obvious from your comment. No need to be defensive to my clarification of a generalization
Excellent video 👏👏
Thanks Zoran!
I’m trying really hard not to comment on your shirt, but it looks like its been eaten by mice. What happened?
Haha nope, not mice 😂 Believe it or not, I bought it this way. Yep, it’s supposed to look like this. Though I guess you’re right, mice could’ve created the same effect 😉
@@IrisSmyth Lollll I’m so sorry for my question - maybe it’s just me! 😅 Thanks for answering it so graciously lol
@@instagamrr No apologies needed, I didn't take it personally. And don't think it's just you - some other people have commented on it too (though not that mice had eaten it) 😂 I don't mind, some comments were actually quite funny and sharp.
The great thing about fashion is that we all have our own tastes.. im sorry that you missed out on such an inspiring talk because you were focused on her sweater
@@elizabethdebruin3868 I can listen and see at the same time lol. Still got her message
Holy cow, I need to get on a call with you.
Looking forward to chatting soon Lianne!
I bet my ass that, since you started quiet quitting, your joy enhanced 100%
Didn't exactly work like that for me.
Thank you! ❤ Jehovahs always right on time! In Jesus name Amen!
I appreciate this video. new subbie
Hey Shevy! Love your name :) And appreciate the comment + that you're a new subbie! Nice to "meet" you!
This is me now!!! Just started watching video.
Hope you got something out of it Sheryl ❤
Why would anyone need help quitting a job!
You'd be surprised how many people do, and I get it. It's not an easy decision to quit one's job.
This is so relatable. Quiet Quitting sounds stressful. Better to just quit.
So people in simple blue collar jobs generally live that every day.
I sincerely hope you're referring to working clocking in and out on time, and that you're not referring to being miserable and burnt out?
@@IrisSmyth definitely miserable and burnt out. I work in a glass factory in the US owned by a billion dollar corporation. The only people not miserable and burned out are those that manipulated and kissed butt long enough to get to positions of power, who then create miserable conditions for everyone else. Or at best,managers do the bare minimum. Just the other day I told a manager that one of the production line workers, to save herself 30 seconds of work every 20 minutes, would just leave racks in other people's way, creating more work for others. She has the easiest job in the plant, that day her job was "do 4 minutes work then sit and watch the machine run for 16 minutes".
My bosses answer? "I just ignore her".
This happens a hundred times a day, creating an environment where the sleaziest and most ruthless employees get their way,anyone trying to be honest gets walked all over.
Multiple people sabotaged my station to make my metrics look bad,and after two years and imo having solid evidence proving sabotage, the most I got was "Id bet there are people like that in every area, moving out of this one isn't going to change anything". The idea of confronting or catching the person/people never even came up.
Just this week a manager took advantage of a Hispanic woman, telling her she had mandated overtime every week. She doesn't realize that she works more shifts than others. One guy refuses to come in for overtime, and instead of confronting him , the manager makes her work her overtime AND his, so he doesn't have to answer to his boss, or other managers. When I asked my manager why she had mandated overtime again so soon, he said she volunteered. She told me as best as she could that she is tired of being mandated every week (12 hour shifts).
They want me to be a warehouse Lead, so to move up I'd have to be part of a system that makes a pretty nice lady work extra hours to save a manager having to reprimand someone, or deal with the company's bad policies.
Sorry for the long reply. :)
@@Zornotfugen Gosh, Shane, I'm sorry. Please don't apologise for writing a detailed response back. This sounds like a horrible situation to be in, and not a healthy one for anyone involved. I hope you can find a way out, and find a job at a place where people are being treated fairly and respectfully - in essence: where they're being treated as human beings! It maddens me that places that treat people like disposable resources continue to exist - I guess that's the idealist or utopian side in me.
@@Zornotfugen very interesting, I am also facing a similar situation with stupid management not seeing who works hard and who doesn't or just simply ignoring it. And even like you some cases of sabotaging.
I don't want to be a manager there as I don't want to be a part of this system, nor do I want to fix it.
I just do my job. Over with the extras but no appreciation.
I've been doing this without knowing about it
Aaand... it sounds like it's working for you?
Society use to call this stealing. Taking money for less than your best effort. No wonder Bosses are spying on their employee's.
I see it as stopping your boss from stealing from you. Work weeks are supposed to be 40 hours - when they expect you to work 80 then they are stealing 40 hours from their employees.
So where are you in life nowadays?
I love this quiet quitting trend. It makes it easier for hard workers like myself to excel.
I simply do not understand this new trend of "quiet quitting"
Totally agree!!
I understand it (would be lying if I said I didn’t, as I’ve done it myself!), but don’t agree with it 😊
Tell me why all people youtube tofuu guit and fgteev almost guit youtube
sorry what?
Its like yours speaking into a tunnel
I know, haven’t nailed the acoustics yet. Sorry! Working on it though, so hoping to get it right soon.
Quiet quitting is cowardice.
I think it's an understandable response to an unsustainable or toxic work environment. Understandable, but also counter-productive and unhealthy.
According to who?
I think the fact that people (like you) keep saying that quiet quitting is cowardace is the reason why others stay in a job for years even though it makes them unhappy/not happy (there is a difference) and they have quietly quit on not only that job, but on their dreams, their happiness and on themselves. People are so quick to judge and throw the word cowardace around that this isn't something people feel comfortable enough to discuss, so they think they are the only one's going through this and therefore just keep on going through it. My opinion is that staying in a job where you are miserable is cowardace because its the easy and reliable thing to do... quitting your job and venturing into the unknown is risky, yet exciting and that is not cowardace. We have this one life... who knows how many years we'll live... who knows how many days you have left. Isn't it cowardly to pretend that you have forever to live and just stay alive eventhough you are not living?
There is no such thing, you either quit or you goto work. You can’t do both.
Fair point
your shirt looks broke.
I'm quiet quitting my marriage. Don't tell my wife.
I seriously hope this is a joke 😬😂
Slowing down america
Shaming
I quietly unsubscribed from your channel
Well, not SO quietly actually 😉
All while those who strive a little more will get a higher bonus rate, higher pay increases and promotions. Yes, continue with your #quietquitting while wondering why you didn’t get that promotion or important seat at the table. And when the dreadful decision to right-size the company comes along, you’ll be amongst the first to go. Good luck with that!! 🤣
You are really either very young or a relative of the boss. Very few promotions are based on talent or putting in extra work? Most are based on connections. There might be a few companies that look at actual work but most do not.