I exist because of this plane. In 1933, Beech Aircraft hired a homeless man to help fill the orders for Staggerwings. This man was then able to marry his sweetheart. They had a son in 1937. That child was my father.
My neighbor has a 17D. He often flys around on nice days. That is one of the most beautiful aircraft I have ever seen and heard. Can’t beat the sound of the radials.
I got to fly in a Staggerwing Beach in the 1980’s. One of my Dad’s friends from Alaska owned it, and trusted his flight instructor with it, my Dad. We had an amazing time flying over Western Washington with it from Seattle to Mt. Rainier to Mt. St. Hellens and back.
I got a ride in one of those when I was about 8 years old. I just about wet my pants I was so happy with the sound and feeling that the plane gave to the occupants. I'm sure the experience of flying in one of them hasn't diminished at all since then. Timeless
Sometime during my elementary school years, I was invited over to a new friends house out in the country. His father had a beautiful yellow airplane. Long afterward, I learned it was a Staggerwing. I have been in love with them ever since. (I am now 71)
My flight instructor rebuilt a D17 Staggerwing back in the 60's. A very cool airplane. Never saw it completed, but did help him doing a run test on the Jacobs radial engine.
I was fortunate enough to get a few hours in a D-17S, N711ZZ. Joe Kittinger was the PIC, and allowed me to fly with him on some trips. Rambling Rosie was an amazing airplane!
Worked at Glendale, AZ airport in 1976. A genleman had a Beech Staggerwing that he rebuilt from the ground up. As part of its maiden flight after the restoration he made a high speed low pass down the runway. Very impressive. And the sound it made..........
My Flight instructor, John Krueger of Redlands Airport/City of Redlands, Has the oldest flying Beech Staggerwing. It was the first Staggerwing produced and was originally owned first by Beech, and then sold a couple of years later. After being in a wreck just recently he is now in the process of replacing all of the cloth, he has rebuilt/replaced everything else so when he is finished it will have had a complete rebuild.
The antique Staggerwing is one sweet bird to fly! It and the Spartan Executive are the most under-rated Civil aircraft even built. You have work hard to run either of them into the ground. Get 'em "messed-up" in the air-just take your hands and feet off the controls and they'll right themselves if you have any altitude.
Such a beautiful, classic and timeless airplane the Beech 17 is. It first flew in 1932, and I can only imagine what the people of the day thought of it. Just imagine being able to buy a new Staggerwing today for only $250,000. The 17 looked like it was doing 150 kts. while sitting on the tarmac.
I worked at the Calgary airport as a helicopter mechanic in 1973 and the company shared a hangar with several aircraft, one of which was a impeccable bright yellow Staggerwing, with wine coloured leather interior. such a dominating aircraft design, all those 182's and 310's paled in significance to that beauty
I enjoyed the video of the Beechcraft Staggerwing but I'd like to see the interior of this plane too whenever possible. It puts me in mind of the Dehavilland Beaver with it's radial engine but I'm not familiar with the Beech at all. The Staggerwing is very impressive but I got confused with which is which the negative and the other style and which is best. Thank you very much for all you do to prepare these videos to upload for all of us to share. Happy Landings.
American aviation magazines have fawned over these for 80+ years. At the end of the day, You don't want the misfortune of owning / maintaining something like this. Let alone the risk of actually operating it cross country. (It was already kinda dangerous in it's day. Before power lines, radio towers, houses everywhere. Now engine out means very high risk of activating you and your closest kins last will and testament. And these old radials have a habit to let go of everything important to the pilots happiness about once every 1,500 hours or so. It is survivable. But its a percentage roll of the dice)
Thank you for a very informative video on the Beechcraft Staggerwing. Please consider foing a video on the Beechcraft Model 18. This plane was in production at Beechcraft for more than thirty years.
"Staggerwing and Me" was an article written by an English Professor out of NM that ferried planes as a side job. It's one of the best written articles in an age (the seventies) when Playboy published some incredible work.
Brings back 45+ old memories, I knew two people who owned them. One was a super nice guy that would visit once in a while, he even had a matching colored automobile and a girlfriend that looked very similar to Jessica Rabbit. I looked at the one without wing supports up close at dawn in Oshkosh back in the '90s, now that was awesome. Personally, I'd be more than happy with a 180, at least I wouldn't be flopping around and crying if I wrecked it.
My Dad had a J3 and a Stinson 10A, Tied next to them was a Stagger Wing. Tried as I Could I could NEVER wrangle a ride out of the owner,the biggest regret of my life,What a beautiful Airplane!
In the early 40's my dad went to MIT. His roommate had a beautiful sports car and a Beech Craft V Tail airplane. My dad was a member of the MIT glider club.
I know too much after fully restoring a crashed bellied in 43' Staggerwing, but I wasn't prepared two yrs later, for the intense 2.5G barrel roll indicated on the panel. No worries, no one heard me screaming over the maxed out 450Hp radial. It was a huge restoration making all new landing gear doors, to full panel mod to use modern radios, where it's required to extend the firewall for new style radios to fit. The final touch was full repaint to original layout. If other tech's recognize this rebuild, where it happened in St.Paul Mn mid eighties, Cheers
A Staggerwing dropped into Waukesha, WI where I was taking flight instruction. I got to walk right up to it and even see inside. Most impressive bird I have seen before or since. Excluding the DC-3. 😁😁
I got mine as a barnfind a little over 20 years ago for 17K. I wish I was into TH-cam then because the restoration would have been worth recording. Needless to say, the restoration cost significantly more than the buying cost 😂
Just to clear up a small inaccuracy in the introductory remarks, the first production Learjet was delivered in October 1964 according the Wikipedia article on Learjet. A wealthy person or business could not have flown one in the 1950’s.
Monoplanes were actually superior even then, but most people didn't' think so, and the clients were not engineers. Still it's a great looking aircraft.
@@bigmetalbirds I could only afford one hour of fuel at 22 GPH! I have a friend who owns a Broussard which also has a Wasp Junior in the front. They are thirsty…..
@@tomcoryell ~ $1200 to fill the tanks from empty. Plus top off oil. National average price for 100LL is $6.64/gal. Multiply fuel cost per hour by 5 = $730.4 is a good estimate of ownership cost, assuming 50-100 hours per year are flown. (Yes. $37-$73k annual cost of ownership is accurate ballpark for this).
Picked up a D17 in Ohio 1978. Drove back thru Tullahoma to see what was happening, probably to show off and got a ride in another there. Got it home to San Antonio. New- zero time R985, it was beautiful but after looking at it closely, realized that all wings were red tagged. Tried to talk major investor into keeping her but he backed out. 50,000 was what he had in it and wouldn’t be budged. Nearly cried as we were set up to rebuild it all. Sad, sad.
Unfortunately, government bureaucracy has had decades to destroy personal aviation. A “new” Cessna 172 is around $350k. A modern equivalent of the Staggerwing is over $800k. Innovation and progress in small aircraft engines virtually died the day the FAA was created.
I'd put the M17 #2 behind the Spartan Executive. The M17 rear taper from rear of cabin to the elevators and rudder is not asymmetric to the rest of the plane. Along with the rudder design, is actually kind of ugly. The M17 only shines head on. Your mileage may vary though.
$14,000 ÷ $35(1 oz GOLD in 1933) = 400 oz of GOLD for 1 Plane. 400 oz × $2200 1oz GOLD 2024 = $880,000 ( this will only grow over time ) Any Inflation calculation NOT using GOLD is wrong. The US Dollar was backed by GOLD at the time. Therefore the comparison needs to be brought back to LEVEL. GOLD is MONEY. PAPER is CURRENCY.
people seem to use money to value money. If one bought $14k of gold in 1932, today that gold would be worth $1.3million. This is probably a fairer reflection of the true value. I wonder what property in NYC that was valued at $14k in 1932 would cost in 2024?
Absolutely one of the most beautiful aircraft to ever fly!
Totally agree!
AGREE!
Agree!
I exist because of this plane. In 1933, Beech Aircraft hired a homeless man to help fill the orders for Staggerwings. This man was then able to marry his sweetheart. They had a son in 1937. That child was my father.
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Awesome
God bless you in the beautiful name of Jesus. I love you and the family!
My neighbor has a 17D. He often flys around on nice days. That is one of the most beautiful aircraft I have ever seen and heard. Can’t beat the sound of the radials.
It is my opinion that this is by far the most beautiful aircraft ever designed and flown.
I got to fly in a Staggerwing Beach in the 1980’s. One of my Dad’s friends from Alaska owned it, and trusted his flight instructor with it, my Dad. We had an amazing time flying over Western Washington with it from Seattle to Mt. Rainier to Mt. St. Hellens and back.
I got a ride in one of those when I was about 8 years old. I just about wet my pants I was so happy with the sound and feeling that the plane gave to the occupants. I'm sure the experience of flying in one of them hasn't diminished at all since then. Timeless
Sometime during my elementary school years, I was invited over to a new friends house out in the country. His father had a beautiful yellow airplane. Long afterward, I learned it was a Staggerwing. I have been in love with them ever since. (I am now 71)
My flight instructor rebuilt a D17 Staggerwing back in the 60's. A very cool airplane. Never saw it completed, but did help him doing a run test on the Jacobs radial engine.
I am 91 loved the Beech Still Do
I was fortunate enough to get a few hours in a D-17S, N711ZZ. Joe Kittinger was the PIC, and allowed me to fly with him on some trips. Rambling Rosie was an amazing airplane!
Saw a couple of these at an airshow last year. Beautiful planes, also sound fantastic.
Worked at Glendale, AZ airport in 1976. A genleman had a Beech Staggerwing that he rebuilt from the ground up. As part of its maiden flight after the restoration he made a high speed low pass down the runway. Very impressive. And the sound it made..........
Stag wings are just beautiful .
Love the stagger wing Beach, beautiful plane.😊
My Flight instructor, John Krueger of Redlands Airport/City of Redlands, Has the oldest flying Beech Staggerwing. It was the first Staggerwing produced and was originally owned first by Beech, and then sold a couple of years later. After being in a wreck just recently he is now in the process of replacing all of the cloth, he has rebuilt/replaced everything else so when he is finished it will have had a complete rebuild.
Isn't the airport where the C-47 parachute plane "D DAY DOLL" is based out of???
The antique Staggerwing is one sweet bird to fly! It and the Spartan Executive are the most under-rated Civil aircraft even built. You have work hard to run either of them into the ground. Get 'em "messed-up" in the air-just take your hands and feet off the controls and they'll right themselves if you have any altitude.
Absolutely stunning aircraft up there with the connie
Such a beautiful, classic and timeless airplane the Beech 17 is. It first flew in 1932, and I can only imagine what the people of the day thought of it. Just imagine being able to buy a new Staggerwing today for only $250,000. The 17 looked like it was doing 150 kts. while sitting on the tarmac.
I worked at the Calgary airport as a helicopter mechanic in 1973 and the company shared a hangar with several aircraft, one of which was a impeccable bright yellow Staggerwing, with wine coloured leather interior. such a dominating aircraft design, all those 182's and 310's paled in significance to that beauty
Go to the museum in Tullahoma Tennessee. Great book on the Staggerwing written by RT Smith, one of the founders of the museum and multiple 19 owner.
This was a fun and excellent review of a gorgeous aircraft. Thanks for sharing
I enjoyed the video of the Beechcraft Staggerwing but I'd like to see the interior of this plane too whenever possible. It puts me in mind of the Dehavilland Beaver with it's radial engine but I'm not familiar with the Beech at all. The Staggerwing is very impressive but I got confused with which is which the negative and the other style and which is best. Thank you very much for all you do to prepare these videos to upload for all of us to share. Happy Landings.
Wonderful history video. Thanks for your work. Much enjoyed!
Thank you!
so beautiful ... Incredible how much it is so beautiful...
One of my all time favorites!
What a wonderful old plane and one that I am not familiar with. I know more about British aircraft from that period. Thank you for sharing.
American aviation magazines have fawned over these for 80+ years.
At the end of the day, You don't want the misfortune of owning / maintaining something like this. Let alone the risk of actually operating it cross country.
(It was already kinda dangerous in it's day. Before power lines, radio towers, houses everywhere. Now engine out means very high risk of activating you and your closest kins last will and testament. And these old radials have a habit to let go of everything important to the pilots happiness about once every 1,500 hours or so. It is survivable. But its a percentage roll of the dice)
There was a D17 at the Des Moines, IA airport in the early 70's where I took most of my flight training. Beautiful airplane.
It’s nice to see an innovative design.
just beautiful
Thank you for a very informative video on the Beechcraft Staggerwing. Please consider foing a video on the Beechcraft Model 18. This plane was in production at Beechcraft for more than thirty years.
You missed the boat on the main attraction of the staggerwing, its fuselage and wings were a work of art.
"Staggerwing and Me" was an article written by an English Professor out of NM that ferried planes as a side job. It's one of the best written articles in an age (the seventies) when Playboy published some incredible work.
Just plain beautiful 😊
Absolutely beautiful!
I saw a few over the years a beautiful airplane
Brings back 45+ old memories, I knew two people who owned them. One was a super nice guy that would visit once in a while, he even had a matching colored automobile and a girlfriend that looked very similar to Jessica Rabbit. I looked at the one without wing supports up close at dawn in Oshkosh back in the '90s, now that was awesome. Personally, I'd be more than happy with a 180, at least I wouldn't be flopping around and crying if I wrecked it.
This is a truly beautiful design for a civilian aircraft. Thanks so much for posting. 😊
My Dad had a J3 and a Stinson 10A, Tied next to them was a Stagger Wing. Tried as I Could I could NEVER wrangle a ride out of the owner,the biggest regret of my life,What a beautiful Airplane!
Thank you for your nice video and storytelling 🙏🏼
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. Thanks
The Duesenberg of the sky.
Pretty Aircraft . you can see where the Pitt Specials came from too .
It is very beautiful.
In the early 40's my dad went to MIT. His roommate had a beautiful sports car and a Beech Craft V Tail airplane. My dad was a member of the MIT glider club.
I know too much after fully restoring a crashed bellied in 43' Staggerwing,
but I wasn't prepared two yrs later, for the intense 2.5G barrel roll indicated on the panel.
No worries, no one heard me screaming over the maxed out 450Hp radial.
It was a huge restoration making all new landing gear doors, to full panel mod
to use modern radios, where it's required to extend the firewall for new style radios to fit.
The final touch was full repaint to original layout.
If other tech's recognize this rebuild, where it happened in St.Paul Mn mid eighties,
Cheers
Five of these staggerwing are in Wanaka New Zealand getting rebuilt
My Grand pa had a V tail, it was a beautiful plane
My god that's a beautiful plane 😮
Beautiful bird
Absolutely agree!
I always thought that the Beech 17 is one of most Beautiful planes ever built it's up there with the Lockheed Constellation, classy!
A Staggerwing dropped into Waukesha, WI where I was taking flight instruction. I got to walk right up to it and even see inside. Most impressive bird I have seen before or since. Excluding the DC-3. 😁😁
There was one at Hales Corners in the early 60’s where my Dad had his J3 ,what a Beautiful Bird!
Great airplane...👍
The staggering is the most beautiful civil aviation aircraft of the 30s and 40s.
Witnessed one ground looping at ENE long ago. Squirrely landing but everything came out fine.
Classy 👌
The Griffon Lionheart is a modernized version of the Staggerwing. It doesn't have the struts or wires of the Staggerwing so it has less drag.
Good Video. I Bet It's Already Sold!
Gorgeous plane with macho sound. BTW, Waco is pronounced "Wah-co." Wayco is the city of Waco, TX.
thanks for clarifying, im from Europe so i didnt know the right pronunciation.
I got mine as a barnfind a little over 20 years ago for 17K. I wish I was into TH-cam then because the restoration would have been worth recording. Needless to say, the restoration cost significantly more than the buying cost 😂
Ithink they were one of the most fantastic planes ever built
what plane is that at 6:49?
A Staggerwing makes an appearance in the movie “Wild River” with Montgomery Clift.
Just to clear up a small inaccuracy in the introductory remarks, the first production Learjet was delivered in October 1964 according the Wikipedia article on Learjet. A wealthy person or business could not have flown one in the 1950’s.
Monoplanes were actually superior even then, but most people didn't' think so, and the clients were not engineers. Still it's a great looking aircraft.
Now I want one….
after researching this plane for a video - i also want one haha
@@bigmetalbirds I could only afford one hour of fuel at 22 GPH! I have a friend who owns a Broussard which also has a Wasp Junior in the front. They are thirsty…..
@@tomcoryell ~ $1200 to fill the tanks from empty. Plus top off oil. National average price for 100LL is $6.64/gal. Multiply fuel cost per hour by 5 = $730.4 is a good estimate of ownership cost, assuming 50-100 hours per year are flown. (Yes. $37-$73k annual cost of ownership is accurate ballpark for this).
woah, thats crazy!!
@@Triple_J.1 Hey thanks!
Picked up a D17 in Ohio 1978. Drove back thru Tullahoma to see what was happening, probably to show off and got a ride in another there. Got it home to San Antonio. New- zero time R985, it was beautiful but after looking at it closely, realized that all wings were red tagged. Tried to talk major investor into keeping her but he backed out. 50,000 was what he had in it and wouldn’t be budged. Nearly cried as we were set up to rebuild it all. Sad, sad.
$250, 000 Seems doable to me. In todays money . For such a beautiful aircraft
Unfortunately, government bureaucracy has had decades to destroy personal aviation. A “new” Cessna 172 is around $350k. A modern equivalent of the Staggerwing is over $800k. Innovation and progress in small aircraft engines virtually died the day the FAA was created.
500K for this beauty, and 400K for a new C 172 Not too hard to choose.
no sound?
Yes.
Waco makes a beautiful biplane
Functional art.
❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉!!!
When are you making videos of bombardier planes?
Are there any independent/small aircraft companies that make a replica Beechcraft Staggerwing?
The Griffin
WACO Aircraft pronounced "Wah Co" Waco "Wayco" is in Texas
Has anyone converted one of these to turboprop? I know there are limitations due to the biplane, as far as never exceed speed.
Any LionHearts around?
Thank you!
One minor point: it is ‘ whopping,’ not ‘whooping,’ as you used. 😉
The Griffon Lionheart was a updated version.
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Why dont they make a modern remake of this plane?
I'd put the M17 #2 behind the Spartan Executive. The M17 rear taper from rear of cabin to the elevators and rudder is not asymmetric to the rest of the plane. Along with the rudder design, is actually kind of ugly. The M17 only shines head on. Your mileage may vary though.
I would take one of those over a Lear jet any day
The original Q-ship.
What's a Q-ship?
@@johnpooky84 Q=17.
It's not a Gulfstream, but still, it's beautiful.
when monetary wealth to all is not the goal, you don't want to know what is
I helped restore two
WACO rhymes with taco.
Waco is a town in Texas.
Sexiest civilian prop-driven plane ever built!
That is one Sexy Airplane !!!!!!!!!!!!
Please learn the correct pronunciation of the "Waco" Aircraft Company. In that context, it is not the same as Waco Texas.
They're $400k. Yep, out of my price range. Pretty plane though.
Sexiest airplane ever. Tore between Beech 18 or Lockheed loadstar bombers ( Howard 500,s) as second sexiest ever.
That is a vehicle my dad would call a "real lady".
$14,000 ÷ $35(1 oz GOLD in 1933) = 400 oz of GOLD for 1 Plane.
400 oz × $2200 1oz GOLD 2024 = $880,000 ( this will only grow over time )
Any Inflation calculation NOT using GOLD is wrong.
The US Dollar was backed by GOLD at the time. Therefore the comparison needs to be brought back to LEVEL.
GOLD is MONEY.
PAPER is CURRENCY.
More like PILATUS JET.
Beech 17...sexiest plane ever...Beech 18..second sexiest ever !
people seem to use money to value money. If one bought $14k of gold in 1932, today that gold would be worth $1.3million. This is probably a fairer reflection of the true value. I wonder what property in NYC that was valued at $14k in 1932 would cost in 2024?
Diamond's DA 50 could be the Staggerwings's modern equivalent at $1.5m??
i dont get it. a state of the art buisness plane for 250.000 is an incredible bargain