“Utterly Negligent Chief Executive!” Ex-Post Office CEO Paula Vennells SLAMMED By Ed Vaizey
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- Paula Vennells, the former Post Office chief executive, may have been told about a “covert operations team” that could remotely access the Horizon system and adjust branches’ accounts two years before she appeared in parliament.
In newly surfaced allegations, Ms Vennells was briefed by the Post Office’s general counsel that a unit in Bracknell’s Fujitsu headquarters could access subpostmaster’s accounts remotely.
Tapes obtained by Channel 4 show the Post Office’s chief lawyer Susan Crichton confirming twice that Ms Vennells was aware of the allegations. In the audio recording - dating from 2013 - Ms Crichton can be heard saying: “[Paula] knows about the allegation. She knows we are working on it.”
The Talk panel delve into the subject by debating whether Vennells' ignoring of the system faults was deliberate.
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She lied to Parliament under oath..
That's the criminality!
Sounds like Contempt of Parliament
@@andrewprockter1730 Thats perjury, a minor crime in comparison to her ``conspiring to pervert the course of justice 780 times``
thats not a big crime it happens daily at pm questions .
@@andydudley1775 PM questions is weekly
This woman purported to be a Christian. She acted more like a tinpot dictator.
The Hypocrisy to stand up in church on Sunday Morning and preach the gospel
Not only did she disgrace herself and the church she still has a SMUG smile on her face may God forgive her because a lot of people will never forgive the way she has ruined their lives she should be locked up and the key thrown away
@@stevenclarke5606It’s ok because she can go to church confessions and be absolved of her sins. So, she’s squeaky clean again.
Jail time
i that not still a Christian.
None of the crooks in the so called establishment ever face any accountability about anything They normally just stroll off into the sunset with a pocket full of taxpayers money🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
Not this time I think.
@@andrewmcgonagle6290wrong she will not be jailed thats only for the small people.first statement is true.of we had an egual justice system she should be jailed
archer didnt, the MPs expenses, 4 served time, labours postal voting fraud seen 5 go down.
YT took more actions baiting our reactions.
I'll believe it when I see it
It was NOT negligence, she conspired to pervert the course of justice.
conspired thats a good one know one else remember's
@@andydudley1775 one know one????
People SUFFERED Greatly, and Still are! They lost their livelihoods, many became sick from the Stress!
Utterly Reprehensible!
This is Deplorable! 😮
Some even died
Some took their own lives, Paula Vennells, committed Perjury and should be charged with manslaughter , she was the CEO, she is accountable.
Don’t forget the four suicides.
@@keegan773 that makes it Manslaughter
@@stevenclarke5606 that’s a decision for someone more qualified than I am.
Not negligent but pure wilful blindness. Vennells didn't WANT to know because a she knew it would be a cataclysmic explosion that would ruin her career, no matter how she handled it. She needs to go to jail.
Of course it’s negligent. She took the job and the salary knowing she was out of her depth. From the first interview with her you could see she was winging it. Her performance in front of the committee was dishonest. There must be repercussions to stop others doing the same thing. If there are not repercussions then we will have more of the same.
@@bottleneck4593Dishonest and calculatingly manipulative, telling bald faced lies and daring the committee to call those lies out which conveniently muddies the waters. This is evil on steroids from an Anglican priest. Bloody shallow hypocrite. I have immeasurable distain for her.
Total negligence. She should be in prison
Equality of Outcome, inept people being appointed - simple.
I think it was simple greed huge salary & bonus boosted by profits & did profits include money paid by Victims
I disagree with this. The CEO is legally responsible for telling the truth which she did not and it is frauduelnt to do what she did. Both are crimimal acts.
I'm just waiting to hear that Vennells has developed a chronic disease claims to be unfit to take the stand.
Or suffering the most awful amnesia.
Huw Edwards Syndrome.
Agreed,that will happen without doubt
@@HereIam-rg3vy A lot of these witnisses have to tread very carefully indeed. Ruined reputations and time in jail is a now distinct possibility.
@@tightcamper the ``nicols sturgeon`` syndrome,,,, "I cannot recall" tourettes.
Lying, deception, ineptitude, negligence - what else do you expect from a devout Christian?
She Lied 100%.......
An absolute disgrace to the nation. Shameless is too good a word to describe them.
She needs to be charged with treason- it’s a national disgrace.
It was NOT negligence it was deliberate.
If she mentions her bullshit faith during testimony I will fucking scream.
Bearing false witness should shut her faith up.
Thou Shall Not LIE
All shortfalls that all subpostmasters have paid need to be given back emmediatly
it went onto puala's pocket .
Given the nature of this woman, she should probably be in prison. She should certainly not still be in Holy Orders. The Church of England needs to take a stand.
Not negligence a massive cover up by everybody inc government
Agree, government are just as involved, the sleaze goes on.
Yup. Negligence is a euphemism in this (and many other) cases.
Liberal Democrat’s
She will do time for sure,she will be prosecuted
Certainly hope so but time will tell. Slippery slimy bunch whenever you get to MP or CEO level
Don't bank on it! The police had evidence back in 2019.
you are more optmistic than me on this, be nice if they did
Sorry don’t buy the negligence argument. Seeing hundreds of people being prosecuted Vennals would inevitably have asked further questions. If she didn’t, that goes beyond negligence.
The ranks will be closed, the white will be washed, business as usual...
And the beat goes on...🎼🎶
My question is, WHERE IS THE MONEY?
Totally agree with you it’s amazing how nobody is asking that question
What money? There is no "missing money" - it's software faults. Do try to keep up...
Was included in Post Office profifs.
@@Philcopson The ``missing money`` HAD TO BE PAID BACK they turned a fantasy manufactured debt into real cash stolen from the postmasters, Do try to keep up. OH REALLY software faults???? it was a backdoor, so that was programmed into the system, so NO software fault at all,,, Do try to keep up eh.
Horizon employees remotely stole it.
She, and her Board colleagues, would be well in to a lengthy jail term if this was in the US. What is it with this country when it comes to white collar crime..................we are utterly useless at bringing people like her to justice.
No way is this negligence. The best interpretation one could put on her continued wilful denials is that the job was just too much for her limited intellect which persuaded her to follow the horrendous path she did destroying so many innocent lives in order to protect what is now a brand hated with a passion.
Of course she knew, it would be naïve to think she didn't. I hope she does get at least a 4 year in prison term for perverting the cause of justice, and causing SIGNIFICANT harm!
Evil. Pure evil.
What happened to the serious amount of money that was hacked? It must be somewhere. Who has it? Employees of Fujitsu? Executives of the Post Office?This needs to go to the next phase.
Pure evil at the centre of the Church, she is an Anglican Priest too an absolute liar and putting those poor Post Office workers in jail… she should be jailed immediately!
All those who have lied and been involved in the cover up should be charged with criminal conspiracy at least.
The conduct of ministers involved failed their duty of care at least.
Paula for prison forever 😊
Ms Vennells earned £5.1m during her time at the helm of the Post Office, peaking at £718,300 in 2018. That year her base salary was £253,800 and she earned £390,800 in bonuses (plus pensions and other benefits).
She also authorized the huge legal costs to prosecute the subpostmasters and defend Horizon.
🤷🏻♀️why are postmasters still being harassed? WTF is up with that?
Ed Davey ,Vince Cable Cameron & the Government all have a part to play in this horror
Vennells has had months and months of counselling from her Lawyers ' while this charade is being played out'
A plea of amnesia is another option, and well documented in previous stages of this enquiry.
Misconduct in a public office may well catch a lot of reckless top PO managers / directors / executives.
Jail here and staf who new the truth they put inocent people in jail ffs thats a crime as well as all the lies shes told
The guilty have got away with it for far too long it's now the time to be accountable for what they've done and did
Vennells must have known when hiring £100 million pounds on expensive lawyers to fob of Victims.
She probably got the job over a Home Counties dinner party agreement - as her kids were grown up and left the nest and she was ‘bored’, so one of the established establishment social group ‘got her in’.
A win-win little job for her: high prestisge, megamoney+copious bonuses…and the chance of a serious title and house of lords seat eventually.
Totally unqualified and inexperienced of course….. but what did that matter ?
"What is wrong in this country is that we never put the boss class in jail." That is indeed why these atrocious things (same with the banking crisis) will keep happening in Britain, until indeed they start doing that, and not allow the shysters class to bestow an implicit amnesty to the boss class with which they are in cahoots.
vennells reminds me of a furless rat
You are doing the rat an injustice. 😂
Yep. A Naked Mole Rat. If you look them up it’s uncanny. Apparently they are lovely communal little critters that look after each other so the resemblance to vennalls is purely superficial.
I said this ages ago. I know you shouldn't udge a book by it's cover, but in this case her behaviour complements her appearance.
😂😂😂
What i dont get is David Davis MP said on Tv about the access to the horizon system by updating , he said you got to have access to the system to update any computor software , why was this not acted upon then ??
Vennells committed perjury which is a criminal offence
haha why is she not charged and why do they leave so many innocent people in prison despite knowing they are innocent......uk justice is at an all time low.
It was always a sham. Always.
Send her to jail
CEO Vennells should have asked this question - How can my Human Resources Department be so incompetent that they recruit 900 SPMs who are all thieves ?
There were many more than the 900 we know about. At least 1200
With all the brilliant PO investigators (interrogators) & lawyers not one of them produced any evidence of where the supposed stolen money went. Surely if money is stolen the idea is you investigate & determine where the money ended up. Seems to me just logic or common sense that appears to be absent throughout all this fiasco. Horizon was indicating losses in the accounts but no one thought we need to find out where those losses are going.
Scary to think that governments put so much trust in technology and that there are so few checks. Not just smart meters in the home but self drive cars, the banking system etc etc.
In politics they say something like: ‘it’s not the issue, its the cover up.’
But..... but..... believe all women.
when will she be arrested?
Jail.
Jail her
Nothing to do with being negligent and everything to do with being a criminal.
There are a lot of 'utterly negligent chief executives' in the public sector.The question is how do these individuals get to be in such a position? People like Alison Rose,Paula Vennells et al aren't fit and competent to do the job.These are the ones we know about,how many useless NHS Trust chief executives are there on six figure salaries and bonuses?
If sub-postmasters were stealing or whether they lost the money accidentally it did not matter because they all signed a contract which said they had to make up any shortfalls at the till. So they were only robbing themselves and therefore it was pointless to do so. That should have made the bosses realise that something had gone wrong with the system. It’s a shame that the bosses have been traumatised into amnesia but if their memories are so bad, they won’t notice that their homes have shrunk to the size of an 8x4 prison cell.
Mr. Cratchit, meet Mr. Scrooge. Doesn't sound as if things have changed much since the good old days of British Management 101!
And jail she will go, all proceeds of her crimes should be recovered and given to charity….
Probably get away with it connections in high places get her off
Not 780 `conspiracy to pervert the course of justice` charges, King Adulterer couldn't get her off this.
Arrest her for gods sake.
She should be locked up!
These people need to go to prison for the total amount of time, all the wrongly convicted did.
The outcome of EQUALITY OF OUTCOME when appointing people to positions of Power = Inept CEO's etc. Recent events have highlighted the rise of inept CEO's / Managers!
We need to see Post Office executives doing jail time for this and heavy compensation for their victims and the families of lost victims.
Why have the Police not taken some small action about this and start Project.. POSTMAN!!
Bs she's a liar errors people went to prison do you actually know what an experience that is for an inocent person .they should be jailed
Negligence? More like knowing that the IT system was flawed and still sitting back while post masters were losing their livelihoods and some even went to prison. That’s criminal negligence but the fact is she must have known the Horizon system was defective but kept quiet while the lives of scores of postmasters were ruined. The only proper way in dealing with her is to be arrested, and charged with extreme criminal negligence.
There is no negligence in this case , pure lies and deceit this woman should have already been arrested,I’d say at least 20 yrs.
Alan Bates said that he was told when he took on the role of sub postmaster that it was a 'partnership' between him and the post office, when in reality the post office was the boss and the sub postmaster was an employee just like in any other job.
Everyone who tried to cover this up assumed that it would all go quietly into the distance and no one would ever find out. That is one thing about this country, we have some of the very best investigative journalists anywhere, and if they smell a rat they are on it like maggots on a corpse.
Its criminal
That woman has ridiculous hair.
Or they directly manipulated the accounts to prove their point.
It's actually disgusting....so convinced they were that sub-postmasters were stealing from them, the Post Office brought in a system that ended up with the sub-postmasters being robbed of everything...and they didn't once think that maybe themselves are wrong
She needs to stand trial for what she did many people have suffered terrible consequences because of the cover up justice needs to be done.
The problem is that the establishment will not come for one of its own. There is a de facto mutual conspiracy of tolerance between them. The chance you have stepped on someone's toes or behaved in a less than strictly legal manner is far greater for the great and the good because their interests and activities cover vastly larger areas of society than most of us... that's you and me. If Vennells is held criminally responsible for the disaster that is the Post Office it will set a precedent for criminal action against other members of the establishment. None of them want to face the justice that goes with the dictum: authority must be accompanied by responsibility. The desire for unaccountable power is behind the failure to make her face justice. It is an ugly reality than none of us would welcome a world where every infringement or misdemeanor would result in action against us. Vennells is all but bullet proof.
Jail her she's guilty of lying people went to prison
Why public enquiry and not police interview
If I did it, I'd have been imprisoned long ago..
And how much was she paid in bonuses??
Who sponsored the studio? ALDI?
The victims whose lives she ruined should issue a class action ,its pretty obvious that the politicians don't care ,or this bullshit would have been sorted out years ago 😠😕
Get the money back don’t worry about anything else take all bounce
All software contains errors so the engineers have ways of correcting them.
She was saving the company and protecting the brand.
Some of these postmasters are still convicted criminals....they should not be allowed any compensation until and IF these criminals convictions are overturned
It's awefull what happened to these people
3:54 correct, the former CEO’s lack of inquisitiveness is astounding, unless it was deliberate.
The fact that the POL CEO didn’t seem to hold anyone accountable for appointing all these ‘thieving’ SPM is also astounding.
Apart from the harm to SPM, their actions has resulted in any actual fraud or theft has now been covered up and/or made undetectable by the POL and this alone should put the former CEO and other executives and managers in jail/gaol.
If you ad into this the POL’s failure to properly comply with the criminal law, properly promulgate governance etc amounts to a failure of management, and should also result in them being held accountable in some way either criminally or civilly.
Disgraceful!! When are the prosecutions going to start and when are Fujitsu going to pay!! Oh of course they are still given hundreds of Government contracts! Crazy!
The preconception that PO had that they were being ripped off by some Post Masters and that Horizon would find those Post Masters out is pivotal to explaining some of the POs otherwise odd behaviour. The shame is that there probably were some that were ripping them off but that Horizon was so unreliable that it uncovered the wrong Post Masters and if it did by chance uncover some of the right ones it's unreliability means its impossible to tell good from bad and even if it could, it can no longer be relied upon as evidence in court because it's so unreliable.
Ignorance is no defence
What is still unclear to me is the purpose of the remote access to the system. Was there actually money missing from the sub Post offices or was it only according to the Horizon system? It is clear to me that the Postmasters were treated horribly, but was there actually any money dissapearing into thin air?
Fujitsu covert operations team
I wonder how many of them are still employed at bracknell
If so what are they up to now
Bracknell must be a really stressful place to work
The media the public the politicians all watching fujitsu
At bracknell
Who can fujitsu staff trust
Will their colleagues blag them in
Can the staff trust their managers
All of those secrets that have to be kept
And then they all have to deal with their own personal conscience
Innocent people going to jail
Very sad person
Jail time plus pay up the cost of her criminal activity.
If the sub posties go to jail for being innocent these weazels need to be bankrupted and jailed.
When innocent people are jailed bankrupted.
Why should the taxpayer pick up the bill for the coverup.
I say prison! Or failing that no pension and a retirement spent in a two up two down!
Where the criminality came into it from her perspective is when she perverted the course of justice and lying under oath which amounts to perjury carrying a custodial sentence
RUBBISH! No negligence ot was fraud and depravity and theft. She knew!
tel you what i had the same in A till .in a fast food store in ayrshie the Tills dont add up
Not maybe. She did know!
Uk to koniec
Robi mi się niedobrze jak ja widzę i słyszę
Czy nie ma nikogo kto by to posprzatal?
Na co czekaja ?
No she screwed them all over for sure !