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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- On MANY discussion forums, folks say that you can use HDMI splitters to "strip" the HDCP coding from an HDMI signal. I put that to the test using 2 sources of copyrighted content, 3 HDMI splitters, and 2 HDCP compliant capture devices.
00:00 Intro/Open
00:48 Why strip HDCP?
01:27 Gear Used
02:33 No Splitter
04:26 TESmart Splitter
06:10 ZI Youren Splitter
08:05 Generic CY-027-1 Splitter
09:45 Conclusion
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I use a version of the "Generic" splitter, I find that you need to have one line running to your capture device and the other to an actual HDCP compliant TV for it to work.
I will try this out.
@@ThriftyAV well, did it work?
This is why so many people justifiably feel the need to turn to piracy. I kept paying and paying for content with problems that only legitimate users have to deal with...
...yet when I go an illegitimate route, everything works perfectly with no issues. After awhile, and several purchases that become unusable with no support essentially stealing from the end-consumer, you stop caring about it all together and just go the illegitimate route.
Especially considering Streaming copyrighted content isn't hasn't actually been criminalized in the states like it has in the UK... and the push to do so is always falling short as there's several protections in place that won't allow it to be criminalized as it's temporary data and would never be anything more than circumstantial evidence which wouldn't allow criminal prosecution to occur even if it was someday criminalized...
How about go back to the same lack of protections we had with VCRs? Otherwise, I'm just going to say "no thanks" to anything that comes with DRM or HDCP. Tried to play Resident Evil 8 when it came out and the DRM was apparently screwing up the performance... refunded it on Steam and got the pirated version with the DRM removed instead and it ran perfectly!
So you're punishing me for trying to be a legitimate user and support your company and rewarding me for being a pirate? Okay, message received, thanks media industry!
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I paid$120 for a blu-ray player, and $40 for a new movie set (Harry Potter), only to get home, plug everything up and watch only an HDCP warning. I agree, no thanks.
Agreed. Pretty soon, you won't be able to buy a stream-to-own movie for the usual ~$14.99 vs. the $3.99 to rent. "Hollywont" will go the full Adobe/Microsoft subscription model route--which they already do--but you will no longer be able to buy and own movies. It will be a rent-only model. We're going back to the old Blockbuster Video days. This time it's all streaming and the easy hardware "work-arounds" aren't as easy anymore.
I purchased videos in good faith from Netflix Disney and Apple TV for single use and without having any intent to duplicate/copy them only to have them not play through my older projector due to not being HDCP compliant. It's definately an unfair situation.
Yes, very unfair, and it causes problems for the legitimate users.
This is the kind of video TH-cam needs.
Great video. I also have a bunch of issues with HDCP. You briefly mentioned game capture, that’s my legitimate reason for wanting to record HDCP HDMI as well. One of my game capture workflows doesn’t use a pass through on the capture interface for monitoring, so I have to use a splitter and as you’ve proven, they aren’t all equal. Cheers, Dave.
Very good point. I have used splitters for game capture as well, just so I can play without latency issues when the capture device does not offer passthrough. Thank you for the comment.
Good video and review... Your most important thing to remember in these (and other devices also) is that " don't assume that you can buy just any old splitter, hook it up and capture HDCP encoded content... it might not work". Food for thought to do your due diligence in researching.
Hopefully, you'll keep doing this type of video every so often, because there are probably new splitters that will fix this problem. This is something that a lot of people care about.
Thanks to the replies here. I can confirm what others have said: plugging one output into a HDCP compliant device allows the other output to be bypassed. I used my A/V receiver. May need switching EDID tab once or twice to enable. I have the EZCOO brand. In retrospect this makes sense because technically the splitter remains HDCP compliant - just not for both outputs. Amazing I couldn't find anywhere else online that figured this out. Thanks goodness I happened to watch this video!
And that's the reason why I bought a couple different HDMI splitters. I've tested them with some of my AverMedia grabbers/recorders and in most cases they work just fine. Sometimes I get no audio so I need to change some audio settings like you did in the video or just plug the cable to another HDMI output port.
The problem needs to be researched. I can , if necessary, go from a 4K digital copyright protected cable box to an analog SD vcr and dump the HDCP encryption in 2 completely different ways.
Wow, super great video! Thank you!
Hello i have an elgato hd60s+ and i use it for my canon make it web camera. But it overload with 7 red lights that mean something about HDCP. I read about splitter hdmi but i do not know if that will fix my poroblem
Nice job! The issue I found when looking for many of these splitters as HDCP bypass, was simply their quality / reliability, the Russian Bullet to find a decent & durable 1 ...
Fortunately most of them are low cost, so even if you get a dud, you won't be out too much cash.
@@ThriftyAV Absolutely, that's why I'll fire for
→ a cheap splitter (not 4k60, HDR, etc)
→ cheap acquisition card 1st, for 1080p30 maybe 60fps (seems none of the cheap ones really do, they all use the same chip which can't do it, but advertise BS on top of it),
& then, when the set-up is coherent with higher need, I'll go for better splitter (if I get >= PS4, 4K Blue-ray, etc) & better rec card ( >= ElGato basically, couldn't find any reliable cheaper alternative that has the same features)
I have a question, btw I'm really not a tech guy, I have a home theater that only works with my old tv. Is it possible to use HDMI splitter to send the sound to my old tv(in other words, to my home theater) without problems or is it a waste of money? Or do I need something different ? Thanks
You need to think about these splitter devices this way. If you feed hdcp content into the splitter....then hook one (check both) output to a Tv that actually works and displays the hdcp content, then take the other unused output and send that to the non hdcp compliant display/recorder, and see if that will work. Try changing the outputs if the way you had it didn’t work, and use quality cables and or proper power supply’s for your splitting device. The way a lot of these work, is that once the hdcp handshake happens between the hdcp coded output (dvd player etc.) to the compliant hdcp display device, the other output from the splitter piggybacks off the clean decrypted hdcp output and also sends that signal to the second splitter output clean unencrypted hdcp free content. The above TH-cam should of included adding an hdcp monitor in the demonstration and tried hooking them up in all other configurations to be thorough in determining if devices did in fact allow no hdcp.
You are the 2nd viewer to suggest using a display device as one of the outputs. I plan on trying this out on a followup. Unfortunately after my recent move, I'm not sure which box contains my splitters! Time to get unpacked.
So does this mean more options may work when using an HDCP compiant display?
Steven, I think it’s certainly possible that if you use a monitor that decrypts the copy protection, and you try all the different hookup options, that there are more possibility to get copy protected content on the other output. Last point....some boxes remove hdcp completely (rarer), meaning content will not need any other process to play on any other non hdcp compliant device, or the more likely version, where the box simply decodes the second output for viewing or recording, but the recorded output still needs needs a hdcp compliant monitor to view content at a later time. This isn’t usually any issue since most semi modern displays have the required hdcp chip to break the copy protection, in fact it’s pretty hard these days to find a tv/monitor with a hdmi input that doesn’t. I happen to have a pair of high resolution virtual reality goggles that don’t have the chip , so to view the content on them, I need a splitter. Hope this helps.
Also, looking at the video again, the hdmi splitter (youren) that started to display video (and any others that tried to display video) will likely play if the other output is plugged into a hdcp monitor and do so continuously. I’ve noticed that once the splitter sees the hdcp monitor, and displays the video without issue on the second output, you can then remove the hdcp monitor and the video will continue to play either indefinitely or for some time. In fact it might even play next time you plug it in, but eventually it starts to not show hdcp content. I’m sure the youren actually had the hdcp key from when the factory checked the unit before it left, and you saw video output because of that. I think subsequent try’s would become more and more inconsistent in displaying video. If your splitter displays video for any length of time (or certainly 20 seconds or more) it’s likely if 1 output is hooked up to a hdcp monitor via hdmi, then it will give you a clean video on the other output, and you are good to go. Hope this all helps.
The Splitter CY0271 works only when the resolution is 1080p? When you changed it to 4k did it show the HDCP error again?
All Iwant to do is screen share or mirror my phone to my TV to watch nfl network on my TV. It gives me an error saying Cannot display. Will the work for that?
THANK YOU FOR TRYING ALL THOSE DEVICES TO MAKE OUR JOB EASIER. I HOPE YOU WIN THE JACKPOT IN THE LOTTERY. 😃 💘
Questions is in download movies onto my kids fire tablet or my android phone on platforms like Netflix, Disney, prime video. I go camping where I have no internet to cast. So I am looking for a cable that can mirror whatever movie I downloaded from the tablet without wifi.HDCP encryption seems to be an issue that I cannot play onto my projector. What card can help. Please help. Thanks
I confirm It worked for me. I've bought and old LG Full HD smart ( not functional) TV and struggled to get cable tv Box to work( tech had to test more than 5 ALL getting Black screen). Then chromecast as well. Tested ALL 3,4 notebooks in, every res and refresh rate...ALL fine. It was driving me Crazy until i decided to use lg service remote control. I could realize HDCP on tv was Null due to repair that had to be done . So i decided to give It a shot and bought a splitter. Worked Just Fine
I have a 4 port switcher but thanks to hdcp my cable box gets error along with an old dvr recorder. I need to run the cable box, dvr & firestick. What's out there to bypass hdcp?
Have you done one of these videos for dvr's? Or recording live from your cable box to computer?
you need to try 1 output at a time instead of both outputs together!
Can a hdcp error from my spectrum 110-a hd box to my Vizio 4k tv cause my pic to get fuzzy or blurry! I get the blue error screen sometimes but channels go thru, then fuzzy picture! Thk u & feed back is appreciated.
I got hit hdpc hit yesterday from an new 4K aura PVR to a new LG CX TV and could not watch any catch up. This protocol is a pain.
I’m wanting to hook up my capture card to my Roku so that I can record live TV. I know I’ll run into HDCP copy protection. What HDMI Splitter would you recommend to get around this? Also, would I need just a splitter or any other equipment too?
try the other output socket on the splitter as i have found only one output socket might strip hdcp, as i have a isolem branded one which works on output 2 ,you might also try connecting output 1 to a display so it correctly checks the hdcp link (the isolem one works without need for output 1 to be connected )
Thank you for the suggestions. I have picked up one more splitter, and I plan to do a followup. I had already gotten the suggestion to always have one output set up on a display.
Great video! Thanks.
Thank you, Jack. I'm gonna explore this topic further based on a suggestion in the comments.
@@ThriftyAV As far as I know, all HDMI manufacturers need to get HDCP key to make their products work. Your video is a great tutorial for users but might draw attention from HDCP authority who can easily find the vendor by following the key embedded. Don't know if they will terminate the authorization even we disable HDCP for educational purpose only... it's a dilemma.
I have a 7 year old Viso TV and installed a new Roku Ultra and I've had nothing but trouble with error signal and HDCP coming up. I've figured out the error signal when I turn it on but not the other so will try this before buying a new tv. It's driving me crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy. I have nothing else plugged into it so it just goes from the Roku to the TV.
Well said
Thank you. I plan to do a followup using suggestions from the comment section.
Liked this video and subbed, just because "it's my 'channel' and I can do what I want to with it" ;)
My laserdisc just works. Never had any such errors or frustration. Plug it in, load the disc and it automatically plays. Are things really just getting worse and costing more? 💁🏼
I miss the analog times, no bullshit around, you was able to watch content you paid for.
also if you want to live stream your PlayStation 3 content onto a PC capture device, you NEED to be able to remove the HDCP from the signal, because HDCP is applied from the hardware and can't be disabled from the settings (the ps4 and ps5 can have HDCP disabled)
I bought a new expensive capture card and I got so pissed with the hdcp error. I'm watching your video and I'll let you know if I'll be able to resolve it.
Is the error caused because you want to record ? or does the playback works normally ? Does hdcp recognises a recording device ?
I just bought one recently -- I ended up going for one that has EDID cloning support -- basically if you plug in two devices, you can make it think it only has one thing plugged in -- for example you could plug in a TV to output 1 and have it think output 2 (a capture device) is the same thing. I was doing this to mirror my main computer monitor (1080P) to my 4K TV and not have the computer freak out detecting the wrong monitor.
A followup is in the planning stages.
You want the VHD-1x2MN3D. I bought it probably 20 years ago; it's still working and it's still being sold. It strips out the HDCP beautifully.
have you tried it with firestick 4k
@@iannene750 No but I'll gladly do so if you send me one. Send it to 1 Totally Not A Scam Blvd., Scammsburg 12345, Florida
will this work with the NBA app?
I got a chance to be involved in a tv series and am trying to figure out how to record it to my computer but so far I have no clue at 60 years old I am not a computer smart guy , my mom has not seen the show and I want to load the show into a little laptop so that she can watch it , by the way the show is called Frozen Gold on the weather channle
great video! i dont use a splitter i use a hdcp decryptor from newegg
Hello there, What is the name of the hdcp decryptor from Newegg please?
I needed for streaming the PS3,where you cant turn HDCP off 👀🥊🥊💥💥
That's called Key Revocation.
So you are saying you had a positive Youren sample
Ha! lol
Best company name pronounciation misstep I've seen is Kumonit
I need to point out that "YOUR DOING IT WRONG". in order for most of the splitters out there to work you must plug one of the outputs of the splitter into a TV monitor and the other into the capture device. HD View is by far the best brand but almost any HDMI 1.3 spitter will work. NOTE the Version. HDMI 1.3. Don't get any other version. You need to re-test all of the splitters used here and hook them up correctly to give them a fair test. The reason this method works is because the older version of the splitters have a design flaw that only check one of the outputs during the HDMI handshake and then sends stripped signal to both outputs. newer splitters force a handshake of both outputs.
Is it the HDMI cord? my old Roku was working intermittently When I received a new Roku 4K for my 10-year-old Samsung TV it came with a new HDMI cord. It comes up with the HDCP protection. I sent it back. Tried using my old Roku plugging in my old HDMI cord it worked for a while. I'm thinking the new Roku and cord tricked the old Roku into this HDCP BS!
I'm not endorsing piracy, but it seems to me that pirating copyrighted material is the easiest and cheapest way to bypass HDCP. It's messed up how there are more restrictions on content you actually paid for than on content you didn't.
I'm not a pirate guy either, but when it comes to VoD services, they highly depend on the speed of my internet connection, which is often a problem for me since I live in countryside and I don't have any cable or fiber or anything - just a mobile network which is often overloaded, especially after 4 pm or in the weekends.
So I believe it's perfectly fine to copy/record copyrighted material at night to be able to watch it later at home while the internet connection is slow/lagging. In most cases it's actually the only way to be able to use VoD when the mobile network is overloaded.
You missed the most famous the Orei
Thank you. I plan to revisit this with a modified setup. I will order an OREI HD-102.
That nasty audio is the digital audio passing through the analog audio.
It's "You Ren".
The "splitters" that you are reading about are specific models that will bypass HDCP. For example Ezcoo EZ-SP12H2. Of course just any "splitter" isn't going to remove HDCP. Do you not know how to use Google?
thinking most of them are full of crap or they wont work the person testing them has been paid by the Chinese company for a good review.
this was confusing as hell
you look stoned out of your mind
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