There’s zero chance in 6 weeks he looks like a first option player if he actually gets cleared. Then he’ll prolly get reinjured before the season’s over
Never in any sports have I seen a 24 year old have soo many soft tissue injuries... and to feel something then play and be out again it's just strange at this point.
Owners need to negotiate that players get 50% of pay for games missed throughout the season and playoffs. That would solve this issue. Larry Bird played when he was hurt all the time. Today’s players are way too soft!
The City is tired of the excessive amount of injuries(For both pro teams). Its not bad luck if its a consistent pattern. There's just a lot of frustration.
Yeah me too jake says that it isnt the moment to trade him because his not valuable right now But imagine if the sabe happens next season He wiil be even cheaper in the market... it can always get worse
I can appreciate the positivity., but how do we know he’s doing the right thing? Because he said it? Package him with a pick and see what you can get! The fanbase is sick of this.
Just think about all the soft tissue injuries that have been crippling this Pelicans team. Also, note all the soft tissue injuries that have been crippling the Saints!! Other than the warm weather and the 504 area code, the common factor both teams share is the Ochsner Sports Medicine association. Could it be time to consult a completely different medical opinion???
Idk about the nfl but in the nba these injuries are wide spread among stars. To me it’s just an unwillingness to put in the work to be healthy for the season. The load managing culture is what started this.
@@blunar844 it’s time for us a pels fans to come together and demand for change because right now the medical/ conditioning staff is bad, Willie green is bad and griff doesn’t know much about basketball
Honestly, I was all for him before he was drafted. Then his shoe messed up during his college game and he appeared to be in pain. I thought this would be a problem, but I was hoping I was wrong. Well,....
I love watching Zion on the court. I hate watching him sitting on the bench. I'm afraid that Zion career may be over. I am praying for a full recovery so the Pelicans would have a choice what to do with him.
Lmao it’s dumb to build around BI he’s not worth building around that’s why we bouta be a bottoms feeder team and he still playing and can barely pull a win out his ass even against trash teams
@DavionWhite-kx8jl first wait til BI have some quality role players. He's been playing with G-leaguers and rookies going 1 v 5 out there. Trey still needs time to get his legs under him so he's not fully there yet.
I hope he doesn’t because BI isn’t the answer either. He’s been getting credit for just being there and we aren’t paying attention to his lack of leadership and the fact that we have two other wings to build around in Herb and TM3
@@DavionWhite-kx8jlif we can get some good power forwards that can occasionally shoot the 3 we’ll get there with b.i. We need those anyway cause Zion always hurt The problem ain’t b.i. Its how he’s being used but I’m just a pels fan #getsomepowerforwards
Z is gonna join the list of what could've been players. He's a great guy but we have to be honest with ourselves. His name will be mentioned with Greg Oden, Grant Hill, Brandon Roy, etc.....
Back to back games where a player checks themselves out due to an injury, returns to the game, then the next day is out for an extended period of time due to a hamstring injury (Z and Alvarado). That's not a good look on the organization.
Since being drafted only played 190 games. Unacceptable. Time to move on. This guy doesn't take his craft serious. These guys must not stretch or something. Hamstring problems everywhere.
First the issue is his weight, since he always say Z did the right thing in the offseason. Honestly i dont see any slimming down from yr 1 up to now. Secondly Z having a reliable jumpshot should help lessen the stress on his body but no improvement till now.. Z is sooo far from being blameless 🤦🤦
Only time he has been healthy was highschool. I'd move on from him so fast. Football body trying to play 80 plus games. Hamstring issues two different times. That being said I hope I'm wrong love watching him play.
First thing, 3 players this season with hamstring injuries? somebody needs to be lookin at this training staff. Second its time for Willie to go and Z and CJ should be shopped
He’s been injured for 6 straight years and now he’s on the downside of his prime. If any of the other teams in the league offer a decent trade, we should move on. He doesn’t represent the team or the city in the way that it deserves. He takes his teammates for granted as well. He sat out with a personal issue in game 1 and as a result we were in a fistfight with the Chicago Bulls. And that is why Dejounte Murray got injured.
It’s wild but he may really be already past his prime at 24. At 27, which is everyone else’s prime, he’ll prolly be a good bit less athletic than he is now
jake says that it isnt the moment to trade him because his not valuable right now But imagine if the sabe happens next season He wiil be even cheaper in the market... it can always get worse
Maybe Zion is just not the star type player we wanted him to be. Conditioning is an issue yes but i have said for years that he works too hard for each bucket. Not tall enough for the 4. Handles not good enough for the 2. The construction of this team is a mess. I wanted Coach Green to be the man but now i dont see it
This year and done. I have been a zion defender since the beginning. If he comes back and plays after 5 weeks or so...Then thats one thing but if he misses the rest of the season he has to go.
Athleticism don’t mean shit when your injured every year and can’t use it. At this moment, all he’s doing is wasting his youth and The Pelicans are just wasting their time and money.
The fan base is exhausted. Trade Zion to the Phoenix Mercury for Brittney Griner. I think most fans would prefer to watch Griner for 75+ games vs. Zion for 1/3 of the season. Griner would also solve our center problem.
Lol Zion is not HIM or the organization can’t get the best out of him. Regardless, If my star needs to be handled like a child, I would prefer a rookie.
Their are 2 trades. Zion for Yannis and picks, or Julius Randall. If not , keep him but get another player who can play the position such as Bobby Portis or Naz Reid. When Zion gets hurt we have someone who can play with harming the team.
Zion fans have lost hope, when he was playing at Duke I thought he would be the next superstar but he is not the next to Oden no discipline what a shame the Pelicans paid him.😢
It’s time to move on. From Zion. Look he has had 4 hamstring issues. After each one he is more susceptible to pulling the hamstring again. You then look at how he plays and how he relies on his explosiveness. There is no way he can play this way and stay healthy especially at his weight. He is not fat he just weighs too much to play this explosive of a game basically every time he touches the ball. The hamstrings protect the knee. The team needs to move on before his hamstring issues turn into a major knee issue.
I'm just tired of it. He's holding the team hostage. We never have been able to build chemistry or really see how pieces fit. Maybe he'll get it together and his talent meets with his preparation/health. It just isn't going to be with Zion in NOLA. Let's move on. It's doesn't have to be an ugly breakup, but it still needs to be a breakup.
The team as a whole doesn’t have an identity or direction with this administration as a whole. So the discussion around Zion is irrelevant unless Griff goes. Who cares about Zion if he plays well keep him if not let’s get some new directors of operations in the front office.
Jake, you claim to NOT know what the Medical Staff is doing BUT you DO know Zion did EVERYTHING he could this Offseason to be the Pro we need him to be. How do you know?
If you can win enough to make the play in and get your team back healthy, then you can make a run. If 7th seed is not possible by the break, you tank it. Keep Zion, but build around your top pick
Bro you're asking the same questions you've been asking for the last 3 years Zion Williamson sucks. Get rid of this injury prone bum . I stopped watching the pelicans last year. They have a horrible franchise and a horrible team
How do you know he didn't do everything possible to prevent it listen he didn't and now he do everything possible he do to prevent it it's injuries injuries are going to happen look around the league more than half the superstars are injured in the league right now for some strange reason y'all think Zion should never get hurt and now that he's been hurt every time he tweak something we can videos like this he will get hurt again this won't be his last time he's probably going to get her 30 more times in his career if he keep playing and so well just about every player in the NBA that place is significant amount of minutes
Ok let’s be honest here. Every super star in this league plays on a team with a system and offensive identity which Zion has never had. If Zion had that I believe he would not be in the position he’s in today.
SVG made point Z a thing which got him his first all star. Maybe a better coach gets him closer to All NBA but his health has always prevented him from playing well for too long
Are you kidding me ZION has a hurt hamstring.. give me a break, he got his payday and this guy doesnt care about legacy nothing. HE is and will be worse then ODEN . Wow he does great but he can only play 20 games a year? lol so stupid - but hey he played it right did awesome in college got paid -
This guys is dumb to.. he was out last year so many games on injury and stopped before playoffs when he could have played - He has a "sore" leg .. he is just won of the week players in nba now adays. sora shoulder, sore leg , sore quad give me abreak I miss the days when people like gary payton and jordan played litterly almost every game in the NBA season, go look back and see how many games many super stars played in the 90s and early 2000s.. its unreal they missed maybe handful of games multiple years in row
guys arent conditioning themselve properly either, they need to be eating right and taking care of their bodies in a way to limit "soft" injuries or "soreness"
Zion Williamson was a could have been story but never lived up to the hype because of injuries.i think it’s time for a full rebuild
Same as D Rose just big what ifs unfortunately 😕
💯 guarantee Z's comeback will be delayed due to conditioning and once he comes back he'll still b outta shape
There’s zero chance in 6 weeks he looks like a first option player if he actually gets cleared. Then he’ll prolly get reinjured before the season’s over
@@nineteenct FACTS
THIS IS NOTHING BUT FACTS!
Never in any sports have I seen a 24 year old have soo many soft tissue injuries... and to feel something then play and be out again it's just strange at this point.
Every season he's been here has basically been a disappointment....
No, Zion doesn't deserve credit for being in shape. He's a professional athlete, that's the bare minimum. Pels should trade Zion asap.
But trade for what? What’s your expect Pelicans should get by trading him? Seems like you value Zion very low?
@KamiDionysus a Gatorade bucket would be fair compensation at this point. The bucket will be there for every game, and will never let ya down.
Trade him in exchange for a McDonald's happy meal 😅
Owners need to negotiate that players get 50% of pay for games missed throughout the season and playoffs. That would solve this issue. Larry Bird played when he was hurt all the time. Today’s players are way too soft!
The City is tired of the excessive amount of injuries(For both pro teams). Its not bad luck if its a consistent pattern. There's just a lot of frustration.
Zion, cj, and 2 firsts for giannis
They can have Ingram and Willie Green too
Not enough for giannis
I'm over Zion
Yeah me too jake says that it isnt the moment to trade him because his not valuable right now But imagine if the sabe happens next season He wiil be even cheaper in the market... it can always get worse
Me too at this point. Just didn’t work
I can appreciate the positivity., but how do we know he’s doing the right thing? Because he said it? Package him with a pick and see what you can get! The fanbase is sick of this.
Just think about all the soft tissue injuries that have been crippling this Pelicans team. Also, note all the soft tissue injuries that have been crippling the Saints!! Other than the warm weather and the 504 area code, the common factor both teams share is the Ochsner Sports Medicine association. Could it be time to consult a completely different medical opinion???
Idk about the nfl but in the nba these injuries are wide spread among stars. To me it’s just an unwillingness to put in the work to be healthy for the season. The load managing culture is what started this.
Zion shouldn't be getting paid while injured, give him incentives.
We need to rebuild this roster a more balanced and fitting roster build around DJ, Murphy, hawk and herb
Great supporting cast but need star power to make this work.
Agree! We will get star power back with trades done correctly. That is the supporting cast I can get behind
@@Antonius1911 yep 👍
@@blunar844 it’s time for us a pels fans to come together and demand for change because right now the medical/ conditioning staff is bad, Willie green is bad and griff doesn’t know much about basketball
Yes please. I’m with this idea. Keep Missi too
6 years later we still don’t know what playoff Zion look like man go ahead and get him outta here
The management should have signed a player who could play Zion position before the season started.
With Jose down, any chance they bring Elfrid Payton back up to fill in? Thought he looked pretty good in the preseason...
Zion can still be a part of the team. But the fiasco of trying to build a team around him should be over.
Honestly, I was all for him before he was drafted. Then his shoe messed up during his college game and he appeared to be in pain. I thought this would be a problem, but I was hoping I was wrong. Well,....
I love watching Zion on the court. I hate watching him sitting on the bench. I'm afraid that Zion career may be over. I am praying for a full recovery so the Pelicans would have a choice what to do with him.
Well yes @ Jake the problem is now hopefully b.i. Will want to stay so they can build around him and Trey like they should’ve
Lmao it’s dumb to build around BI he’s not worth building around that’s why we bouta be a bottoms feeder team and he still playing and can barely pull a win out his ass even against trash teams
@DavionWhite-kx8jl first wait til BI have some quality role players. He's been playing with G-leaguers and rookies going 1 v 5 out there. Trey still needs time to get his legs under him so he's not fully there yet.
@ lol if BI yo best player yo team gone be below average like we been the last few years
I hope he doesn’t because BI isn’t the answer either. He’s been getting credit for just being there and we aren’t paying attention to his lack of leadership and the fact that we have two other wings to build around in Herb and TM3
@@DavionWhite-kx8jlif we can get some good power forwards that can occasionally shoot the 3 we’ll get there with b.i. We need those anyway cause Zion always hurt The problem ain’t b.i. Its how he’s being used but I’m just a pels fan #getsomepowerforwards
Z is gonna join the list of what could've been players. He's a great guy but we have to be honest with ourselves. His name will be mentioned with Greg Oden, Grant Hill, Brandon Roy, etc.....
Back to back games where a player checks themselves out due to an injury, returns to the game, then the next day is out for an extended period of time due to a hamstring injury (Z and Alvarado). That's not a good look on the organization.
Facts 💯 percent 😮😮😮
JAKE..please speak the TRUTH
Let's Go New Orleans Pelicans 😂😂😂😅😅😅 Lol......
The Pelicans can move away from Zion and all these other players but they can move away from Willie Green
Smh🤦
Coming from a big Zion fan , I believe it's time , this guy is a injury prone player
My advice to Z is don’t worry about injuries when you’re not injured play every game like it’s your last because anything could happen
Since being drafted only played 190 games. Unacceptable. Time to move on. This guy doesn't take his craft serious. These guys must not stretch or something. Hamstring problems everywhere.
Hi Jake, at least our G-leaguers & 2 way player aren't injured
Let's just move on!
HOPE and EXCITEMENT is better for the team and fans, instead of Expectstions and Disappointment.
I’m not sure why we are not using Karlos? Zion took 5 years to take his job seriously. They have enough to win with the roster they have.
Jake is compromised...
First the issue is his weight, since he always say Z did the right thing in the offseason. Honestly i dont see any slimming down from yr 1 up to now. Secondly Z having a reliable jumpshot should help lessen the stress on his body but no improvement till now.. Z is sooo far from being blameless 🤦🤦
Build the team around someone else he becomes a role player.
Being a pelicans fan seems to be aging you like crazzyyyy 😿
I'm happy to trade BI right now but I'd wait to trade Zion in the off-season because he's not worth much right now injured.
Only time he has been healthy was highschool. I'd move on from him so fast. Football body trying to play 80 plus games. Hamstring issues two different times. That being said I hope I'm wrong love watching him play.
While he’s out he should would on getting his body back to Duke size. It was like today’s Anthony Edwards
First thing, 3 players this season with hamstring injuries? somebody needs to be lookin at this training staff. Second its time for Willie to go and Z and CJ should be shopped
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Best case, we get it together for the play in, worst case...draft. 🏀🇬🇧
Build around BI, if not he will be welcomed in BK 🗽💫
He’s been injured for 6 straight years and now he’s on the downside of his prime. If any of the other teams in the league offer a decent trade, we should move on. He doesn’t represent the team or the city in the way that it deserves. He takes his teammates for granted as well. He sat out with a personal issue in game 1 and as a result we were in a fistfight with the Chicago Bulls. And that is why Dejounte Murray got injured.
It’s wild but he may really be already past his prime at 24. At 27, which is everyone else’s prime, he’ll prolly be a good bit less athletic than he is now
Mr. ErryDat'rr 👈🏾 Thanks Jake!
6 years of evidence shows you can't. However, this is Nola they are okay with mediocrity.
I thought this was a revenge season for Zion I mean that's what Zion said.
This is starting to look like the Grizzlies last season.
Every dayer!! 🇵🇭🇵🇭
jake says that it isnt the moment to trade him because his not valuable right now But imagine if the sabe happens next season He wiil be even cheaper in the market... it can always get worse
Maybe Zion is just not the star type player we wanted him to be. Conditioning is an issue yes but i have said for years that he works too hard for each bucket. Not tall enough for the 4. Handles not good enough for the 2. The construction of this team is a mess. I wanted Coach Green to be the man but now i dont see it
I say we trade him for Jalen Green. Rockets had interest in Zion last year. We have to hurry and trade him before him trade value plummets further
This year and done. I have been a zion defender since the beginning. If he comes back and plays after 5 weeks or so...Then thats one thing but if he misses the rest of the season he has to go.
Trade him, He's a bust
Athleticism don’t mean shit when your injured every year and can’t use it. At this moment, all he’s doing is wasting his youth and The Pelicans are just wasting their time and money.
The fan base is exhausted. Trade Zion to the Phoenix Mercury for Brittney Griner. I think most fans would prefer to watch Griner for 75+ games vs. Zion for 1/3 of the season.
Griner would also solve our center problem.
😂.She would be available all season
I think "rely on" is asking way too much
My team everyday 🍿. No on moving on from Zion... what a roller-coaster fan base.. also they wasnted to get rid of B.I.
Pels should play him more at the three
Man Z going to be like grant hill get paid and never play 60% of full season in his whole career
Lol Zion is not HIM or the organization can’t get the best out of him. Regardless, If my star needs to be handled like a child, I would prefer a rookie.
Their are 2 trades. Zion for Yannis and picks, or Julius Randall. If not , keep him but get another player who can play the position such as Bobby Portis or Naz Reid.
When Zion gets hurt we have someone who can play with harming the team.
Jake..I respect the quality of your work, but you appear to be too deep in the pockets of the Pels to have your takes at this point.
Zion fans have lost hope, when he was playing at Duke I thought he would be the next superstar but he is not the next to Oden no discipline what a shame the Pelicans paid him.😢
It’s time to move on. From Zion. Look he has had 4 hamstring issues. After each one he is more susceptible to pulling the hamstring again. You then look at how he plays and how he relies on his explosiveness. There is no way he can play this way and stay healthy especially at his weight. He is not fat he just weighs too much to play this explosive of a game basically every time he touches the ball. The hamstrings protect the knee. The team needs to move on before his hamstring issues turn into a major knee issue.
Two words: absolutely not!
I feel sorry for Zion Williamson I think his career, must be a role player on minutes restrictions. His body is too fragile.
The Pels are 30th in the NBA in rim protection. Missi has been Miss-ing 90% of his minutes. Play Jemison and send Yves to G-league where he belongs.
No. He's a injury prone player
I'm just tired of it. He's holding the team hostage. We never have been able to build chemistry or really see how pieces fit. Maybe he'll get it together and his talent meets with his preparation/health. It just isn't going to be with Zion in NOLA. Let's move on. It's doesn't have to be an ugly breakup, but it still needs to be a breakup.
Every dayer
The team as a whole doesn’t have an identity or direction with this administration as a whole. So the discussion around Zion is irrelevant unless Griff goes. Who cares about Zion if he plays well keep him if not let’s get some new directors of operations in the front office.
Jake, you claim to NOT know what the Medical Staff is doing BUT you DO know Zion did EVERYTHING he could this Offseason to be the Pro we need him to be.
How do you know?
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Bet 100k Jose comeback 2wks min b4 Z
If you can win enough to make the play in and get your team back healthy, then you can make a run. If 7th seed is not possible by the break, you tank it. Keep Zion, but build around your top pick
We bouta lose the next 5 or 6 games maybe more we gone have 20 losses by December we not making the playoffs
Bro you're asking the same questions you've been asking for the last 3 years Zion Williamson sucks. Get rid of this injury prone bum . I stopped watching the pelicans last year. They have a horrible franchise and a horrible team
He needs to stretch or yoga
Crazy thing is that when Pelicans get rid of him he'll become the best player in the NBA, win multiple champions, and league MVP
delusional. that won't happen 😂
Sign elfrid Payton
How do you know he didn't do everything possible to prevent it listen he didn't and now he do everything possible he do to prevent it it's injuries injuries are going to happen look around the league more than half the superstars are injured in the league right now for some strange reason y'all think Zion should never get hurt and now that he's been hurt every time he tweak something we can videos like this he will get hurt again this won't be his last time he's probably going to get her 30 more times in his career if he keep playing and so well just about every player in the NBA that place is significant amount of minutes
Ok let’s be honest here. Every super star in this league plays on a team with a system and offensive identity which Zion has never had. If Zion had that I believe he would not be in the position he’s in today.
SVG made point Z a thing which got him his first all star. Maybe a better coach gets him closer to All NBA but his health has always prevented him from playing well for too long
Are you kidding me ZION has a hurt hamstring.. give me a break, he got his payday and this guy doesnt care about legacy nothing. HE is and will be worse then ODEN . Wow he does great but he can only play 20 games a year? lol so stupid - but hey he played it right did awesome in college got paid -
This guys is dumb to.. he was out last year so many games on injury and stopped before playoffs when he could have played - He has a "sore" leg .. he is just won of the week players in nba now adays. sora shoulder, sore leg , sore quad give me abreak I miss the days when people like gary payton and jordan played litterly almost every game in the NBA season, go look back and see how many games many super stars played in the 90s and early 2000s.. its unreal they missed maybe handful of games multiple years in row
guys arent conditioning themselve properly either, they need to be eating right and taking care of their bodies in a way to limit "soft" injuries or "soreness"