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Yeah... I don't know if K would have saved Etika. But I do think he would have helped him out A LOT. Maybe that in and of itself would have been enough. A guy who takes everyone's mental illness seriously. Regardless of the things they have done and or said. I really do believe that as close minded as it might be.
@@calin6327 alright no it isnt tbh. we all miss him but hes been gone for a while now, talking about things that could of prevented or helped him isnt wrong or off the table. if anything we should of talked about this while he was still here.
Callmecarson donating 10k at the end of the stream is the biggest Chad energy. Edit: guys he donated the money to the Healthy Gamer mental health coaching program, NOT to Katerino, chill.
People here being opposed to improvement. He said 'thanks for helping her', because he wants her to be a better person. Shaming him for wanting a person to become better is the pettiest shit. The human race is fucked if we keep such negative attitudes.
@@Novenae_CCG I agree that the people callling him a simp are retarded, but i don't think this will have a significant impact on the human race. Retarded people and internet will always be a thing.
DR. K PLEASE READ THIS: In Voicemeeter, you can set a limiter to each "strip" by left click + drag downwards on the "LED" volume indicators. I saw that you are hitting Red levels pretty god damn often and even if it sometimes isn't audible its not pleasant for your ears. Going in to Red values means the signal is "Clipping". If the signal is clipping, something/somewhere is distorting the output signal. Historically, peoples speakers have “poof’d” because of clipping. But this is nothing to worry about in this case. I heard you say you had VST-Host installed on your computer. That allows you to use external third party VST-FX Plug-Ins. My tip would be that you should try and find a tutorial on how to set up a effect chain with an EQ, Compressor and Limiter (At least a Limiter in the FX Chain!). You literally have everything installed to get a really good mic sound if you set it all up correctly :)
I don't understand peoples insane burning hatred for people that cheat. Is it a shitty thing to do? Yes. But treating someone who cheated as "subhuman trash" is so wild to me.
Timestamps: 00:00 introductions 07:30 Cheating & Mental Health 17:29 the relationship, vaginismus, emotions 29:30 Sexual abuse, depersonalization 40:29 Grandfather passed away, childhood 1:03:50 emotional processing, absence of anger, self-love 1:29:20 Meditation 1:45:50 Outro 1:52:10 Thank you, it’s ok to not love yourself 2:00:40 Thank you CallMeCarson, Sprim9189, Knightvision91
Carson is one of the smartest and strongest people around dude. He donated 10k to a great dude who's job is helping people. Dr K helped Kate for sure in this stream. It kinda showed people that kate is a human too. Carson is probably past being angry at her. Most likely just sad and disappointed by the situation and knows everyone involved got hit including kate. The donation is just pure king shit. Forgivness is not simping people
i think the reason why she's laughing so much, interrupts dr.k a lot and isnt focused is because she's really anxious even when she said she's relaxed her defense mechanism is like on high gear (for people who think she's disrespecting dr. k when that's really not the case)
yeah i can relate to this whenever i talk about personal stuff i do the exact same thing where my mind is racing and im constantly giving an explanation for everything i say or do and laughing and when i was younger that would also include stuttering. So yeah i think you hit the nail on the head. She comes off as eccentric but im sure she doesnt feel too good about it.
I agree. I think Dr. K was actively trying to not laugh at any of her jokes because doing so would just reinforce that defence mechanism. The dude is out here with these big brain psychological moves lol
Really disappointing to see how many so called ''healthy gamers'' throw all of that empathy and understanding for mental health out the window as soon as someone they don't like comes on stream.
I wouldn't group up his entire community from what you see in Twitch chat. Twitch chat is typically kind of toxic, and I'm assuming more trolls showed up knowing who he was going to be talking to.
Yea, its just become Katerino bad. Yes she cheated on many people but we havent let her improve herself at all. We cant hold grudges forever, I stopped caring a few weeks ago
OH shit its almost like engaging in repeatedly disgusting behavior marks you as a disgusting person, who would've guessed? Damn dude you just solved mental illness thanks MeatNinja.
I think is more of a "this person hurt someone" thing, not so much about hatting someone but hatting for the sake of retribution for their acctions, maybe that and people identifying with being cheated... I don't like her or what she did but if she needs help good for her
Regardless of your opinion of Kate, just appreciate the conversation for what it is. Its centered around why people do what they do. Not to punish them, not to shun them, but to help them. And to me, that's just beautiful and it's the best way to invoke real change :)
JessAtlas you have the right to not believe but be a little open minded I get what she did was awful and she was manipulative but the point of this wasn’t to garner sympathy it was a discussion you have every right to feel what you do
it's hard to sympathize with someone who you know purposefully got 7 different dicks while dating people granted, I ended up sympathizing near the end still, cheaters get my blood boiling
@@FreshFriF I am 38 years old and barely know that Keemstar is a person; he has been mentioned on other random TH-cam videos as someone who literally runs a channel about drama and therefore has a very dark and drama filled orbit through the internet (please correct me if I'm wrong). What can happen when you're older and especially if you build up your own family and have a career that you devote huge amounts of time to is you find you don't have space in your brain for random internet people, you've already got so much on your own plate. The energy on twitch/TH-cam that I vibe with is Sips of the Yogscast, and I just passively listen and never interact, and that's about as far into twitch that I would expect other 38 year olds to like Dr. K to go. Just FYI.
It's great to see how much Dr. K has changed people. If someone laughs when they're nervous, they usually get called emotionally immature or "unready to talk". This comment section is the best thing to come out of TH-cam so far. You may get passively judged but they will never openly drag you down because they know what you're going through. Amazing stuff :^)
Ngl at first i gave a lot of smoke for the situation but this interview rlly opened up my eyes on how she has her own problems. Also made me realised not to judge anyone from face-value... good job Dr K
@@hurting thank you for your comment. When I first watched the beginning I was like wow I can’t believe she did all those things & I wanted to watch something else but I scrolled down to see what others were saying & seeing yours encouraged me to continue watching & I definitely learned something. We should not judge, we should be understanding.
when she started talking about her papa and his dementia it made me tear up because i just lost my grandmother last august to dementia and i was very very close to her as well. its been a while now but i still think about her.
I have been cheated on before. Never in a million years would I want that person who cheated on me to be harassed or to be treated as an irredeemable villain their whole lives. I am glad that they too are seeking help and bettering themselves.
My friend was cheated on and decided to get back with her, cheat, and leave her. Do u think he did the right thing? I feel like she deserved it for playing with his emotions but it was a bit too far. Should he apologise?
@@Urmom-if5nc I think he wasted his and her time. Revenge is petty and silly, he should've used that time on moving on from her and betting himself. I hope both your friend and his ex use their time more wisely in the future.
@Coldfury I think that its possible that she actually did gain a lot from this but it also doesnt excuse her or her actions. She probably geuinly does want help, but she still also could still be a toxic person. The two can co-exist. I hope she geuinly gets better and she does seem to geuine about most of these things, however I dont think that makes her entitled to other peoples trust or forgiveness. She accepts she fucked up and It does seem shes geuine about it, and she really doesnt come off like she is trying to seek other peoples forgiveness. However her accepting that shes fucked up and moving through it does not erase the actions that she did Or make her entitled to people forgiving her. The reason that I don't think shes being manipulative is because of 1:24:56. I have dealt with manipulative people in the past and they don't think like that. But even if shes not being manipulative doesnt mean she is entitled to others forgiveness.
Coldfury everyone’s a human bud don’t forget that yeah she fucked up and maybe she doesn’t deserve all the success she could’ve had but that part is subjective and the fact that she knows she fucked up is just reason to be at peace with it instead of wasting energy trying to hate on this random girl that you’ve never met
More than that they need to fucking get their priorities right. Like taking interest in their own life instead for starters. But if seems like people live through others on the internet today and that's just... beyond sad.
You're doing great work dr. K, good luck with starting up the program. Everyone definitely deserves the opportunity to have a talk like this, during their self development stage.
Wow this was very personal on her part. I have more respect and understanding of Kate now, knowing her side of things. It doesn't make what she did okay, but it at least allows viewers to see for themselves that she is only human and humans make mistakes. She's obviously trying to better herself and I admire her for that.
@@Hchiskasj Nobody hurt me. I have a girlfriend, who I love very much, and I'm going to an excellent university. It isn't hard to think rationally. This girl was just plain ridiculous. She was also plain cruel playing all these guys. I have no sympathy for her at all. I truly hope she loses all the success she's gained thus far.
@Viszlát Nyár That's not a woman thing, that's a human thing. People will always gravitate towards doing what is easiest and convenient to the point of greed, it's not something related to sex or gender
To me, she did this of her own volition, and she probably didn't even give Carson any either. Carson may not like that we're still dogging her, but he should love every minute of it. Kate fucked up big time, cheating is BEYOND redemption. Always has always will.
Y'all need to understand the difference between helping someone and simping. Carson was literally being thankful that Kate was getting help and y'all think he's a simp? 2020 is the worst year.
I don't think she's actually getting help. She seemed very insincere for most of the talk. I think she's just learning the right things to say to manage her public image. I got no impression that she's genuinely remorseful.
CallMeCarson donated $10,000 "Thank you for helping her." I'm glad he doesn't hold ill will towards her even after what happened. Not necessarily for her sake but his own. He seems like a good person.
@@DeuPKay I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're a teenager or a kid. You'll get it one day dude. Sometimes you gotta spare your own sanity by staying away from people that hurt you before.
I forgave her the moment she said "Vagina broken. Don't work". I laughed way too hard. In all seriousness, I've been hurt by cheating a lot and I won't lie, I judged Katerino in the same way I judged those who hurt me. I realize now that was wrong, and I found she was actually fairly similar to me in some ways when all I wanted to do was silently judge her. I'm glad I saw this. It opened my eyes to not being so quick to judge based on my past experiences.
This was a good stream. How often do you get to hear this in depth about the mind of a perpetrator of a scandal? It's incredibly illuminating and reminds us of the humanity even in 'bad' people Edit: To clarify, I'm not saying whether or not Katerino deserves forgiveness, or whether or not she is a bad person. I don't have any power to make that judgement, neither do I care to. I just really appreciate the perspective.
Indeed. I really wanted to hear her part of the story in this - in order to understand her and people that can be unfaithful in relationship, their motivations, inner state and history.
Sound guy here: it was a big MISTAKE turning up the gain on your microphone. You pushed the input gain into distortion. In fact, you audio is always distorting on your videos. Look up "audio clipping", "gain staging", and also "vocal compression" seeing as you tend to sometimes increase your vocal volume very much, in sudden bursts.
Hey man :) Maybe if you send him a DM you can help him out via discord 1 on 1 :) Only if you want to of course! I think DR. K needs a bunch of help perfecting his streaming set-up x)
Her laughing throughout the whole thing really got to me. I can see how laughter is her shield to not crying. Holding everything in that’s happened to her. People can do bad things, but I truly believe many deserve second chances. Unless if there Hitler.
I respect Kate for seeking help, being open and honest, and trying to understand herself. I'm going through a similar situation (didn't cheat on 7 people or whatever) where I need to understand myself and my problems to move forward, so I respect that a lot.
That was really a powerful episode! I asked myself a lot of questions and did a lot of work on myself during this show. Props to Kate for coming on during this time
This was really eye opening in a lot of ways. I relate to Kate in a lot and watching this made me realize how much I struggle with Disassociation and Depersonalization in my own life. I had no idea she was sexually abused as a child and had been through so much trauma in her life. Nothing justified what she did but it is definitely insightful.
you know, its a weird feeling to relate so hard to someone like kate but goddammit here i am. I guess i understand myself a lot better by understanding her
Is it just me or her talking a lot, jumping from topic to topic, talking with rich and vibrant vocabulary is some sort of defense mechanism? Every time Dr. K. pressed gently on a serious issue, she immediately ran away into "storytelling" territory where she talked and talked and in the same time, mentally separating herself from emotions and feelings. It felt like Dr. K was chasing a bunny through a complicated maze, and every time one would think that Dr. K. "had" her pinned against the wall she managed to get away from his grasp. And when he finally "had" her during meditation, calmed her down and had her focused on one hard memory she was legitimately scared. I know jackshit about psychology but I don't think she had dealt with everything on an emotional level. Her brain processed everything, she definitely put a lot of thought into her past, her abuse, her papa dying, her recent cheating, but I don't think she's emotionally ready to deal with everything she lived through. It's good that she's seeing a therapist, she will definitely need some help with that.
It could be a defense mechanism, it could also be that she has so many years of unproccessed thoughts and emotions all bottled up that whenever she does open up, the dam kinda bursts and it all comes flooding out at once, thus making it very scattered, unfocused, rambly and a bit chaotic. It's also possible that because focusing in on one memory makes her scared as you put it, she then has to move quickly from topic to topic as to avoid lingering in one place and feeling that fear, which is understandable.
i think your observation is valid. she uses her laughing as defense mechanism and she does it a lot. shes not relaxed and she certainly spends a lot of energy for just being okay.
Fibbles OH MY GOD I GET YOU SO HARD, that happened with my adhd too, one og my therapists tried to talk about stuff that i was really sensitive to and i tried to talk about other stuff and then i just left.
I'm glad Kate did this. Yeah, what she did was a very bad thing and she has to take responsibility for hurting people. But there were people going just a bit too far with it. If you see her as a person and you hear her experiences you sympathize with her on a human level and it's harder to be so cruel to someone who made a really bad choice like we all do at some point.
@Turquoise Cheetah shes being forced to do it by witch hunting assholes like you. If she doesn't give her full story everyone online will continue to hate her because they don't understand. What is your problem.
I've been dealing with a metric ton of bottled up emotions during this quarantine, and your channel has actually helped me to shed some light on what i'm feeling. Thank you Dr. K. , you're doing something amazing with your channel.
Dr. K's knowledge is futile in this matter. I guarantee you, there is no helping this woman. Take it from me and the small but enlightening handful of dating NIGHTMARES I've experienced, these types of girls rarely if ever, change.
@@ChristUponus That is as ridiculous as saying vaccines are ineffective because there are SOME people that they don't work on. Of course some women can't be helped, but it is ridiculous to make a sweeping statement and assert that these type of women cannot be helped based on your personal experience with them.
@@ChristUponus Also, you said they "rarely, if ever, change," which implies that, in your eyes, there is still a possibility of them changing. If that is true, Dr. K's expertise is NOT futile. In your eyes, there is a chance of her changing, and so people SHOULD try to help her.
@@ChristUponus LMAO are you really saying that to a harvard psychologist who is professionally trained to help people mentally by talking shit about his knowlege being futile?
I get that she made a mistake, and that shouldn't necessarily be forgotten all together, but y'all also need to learn to let shit go. It's obvious she is at least trying to be better, she took full responsibility for the cheating and emphasized that there wasn't any excuse for what she did.
Green suit guy How does that make Spoonesi a simp? I’m pretty sure he’s defending Carson and not her but either way you sound like an incel. Go get laid or sum and calm tf down
Green suit guy Same can be said about the word simp. It’s overused af and it’s lost all its meaning kind of like ‘boomer’. But hey if you made ur peace with being a lonely loser who can’t get a girl than who am I to judge? I also don’t see how I’m a simp for defending Spoonesi who was defending Carson. Nobody in this thread is defending katerino u beta fuck. And also getting laid might not be the measure of a man but it definitely shows whether a chick even views you as a man which clearly they don’t considering u don’t get any
Green suit guy Why don’t you go do something with ur life instead of being such an angry incel on the internet like go outside for once, or go to the gym, pick up a new hobby or something? I’m just looking out for u buddy
to people saying that Katerino should have gone offline: I think that would go against the point of healthygamer to help others (in this case where the interviewee is comfortable with it being broadcasted). people watching on twitch might not know this channel on yt, and some may connect with these discussions (maybe not with cheating, but maybe with discussions on vaginismus, self-acceptance, defense mechanisms, and grieving). even if it were for clout, the fact that healthygamer can bring these topics to light and educate viewers is more important than the intent of the interviewee imo.
as well as the fact that, she shouldn't be forced to not talk about things publicly or not allowed to stream because she makes a mistake. she has owned up to it and knows she is at fault of it.
@@LittleB1RDY definitely. I feel that this also makes more sense than my original comment. I think that, even in the case that discussion on stream may not be applicable to the audience, interviewees should feel free to speak publicly with Dr K if they choose to.
In the comments section you can see the real biggest plague in history happen, drama addiction, that's the world boss of mental health. Those people are beyond hope.
I'll never understand how these people get so emotionally involved in other people's relationships. Felt the same way when the Doc had his scandal. What a waste of energy.
junayd mohammed they’re a lot more drowned out but you’ll mostly find them in the replies to comments where people are just pointing out (not excusing) that trauma can lead people to doing fucked up things such as cheating
Not to mention katherine, it seems to me that these interviews show that you can have a normal conversation without unnecessary accusations, but with guiding you on the mistakes you made, and how be better person.
You guys are actually surprisingly blind and naive, I'm a total tool for expecting more from the internet though. I can't believe my eyes with this comment section, how in the blessed soaring Fuck can you say this sort of thing? Just because she's got a fairly pretty face doesn't mean you should so easily give her the benefit of the doubt. Have some integrity.
@@ChristUponus Being on the neutral ground is a great way to live a life, going after someone just feels wrong in any way. No need to push your opinion on someone, let them speak their mind and move on, maybe even show your opinion while accepting the other. Not saying that you can't have your opinion, just forcing it onto people is kind of weird ngl
@@ChristUponus Did she fuck up? Yes, I'd say so. Does saying it help anyone, does it even do anything? It helps no one, it does nothing. If she wants to get better, I would rather cheer her on or remain silent than shit on her.
† oмnιaмoroυѕ † What Katerino did was horrible, but what good does it make if we keep shitting on her and insulting her? Nothing, at the same time, praising her won’t do good either. The best course of action is to let her get the help she needs. Therapy isn’t a cure, but it’s a treatment that makes life more bearable and opens new avenues for positive change.
@@ChristUponus I wrote not to mention katherino so i didn't talk about specifically her. I don't defend her and what she did was clearly wrong. So calm down
omg this got me crying dang. it just makes me mad that pedophiles do this is the exact reason why the map community on twitter is disgusting. after that said stay safe and if you are sexal abused as a kid it's not your fault your loved don't feel like you're not pure because of that.
From my experience these abused children grow up to be the same as katerino. Cheating on bfs and having multiple guys. Sad, that it happened to them, fuck the people who did that to them, but you have to be careful with these abused people, when you’re in a relationship with them.
@@norydaisy7393 yeah thanks for the input that's true and you do have to be careful very much so. I didn't judge much when I she said she cheated because I know everyone cheats for a reason I just like to know. I've been cheated on and it feels like it breaks you and you fall into a dark pit but people have to carry themselves to try to understand why they cheated.
It feels super strange having this in the background while I'm working. I guess this is what a real therapist does, and they've had years of training to be that way, but he was super super kind and even when driving the conversation a certain way it felt like he knew exactly what he was doing and he wouldn't lead you into any traps or anything.
I know very little about this whole drama thing with Katerino, only that she received A LOT of hate. I'm sorta glad I'm going into this without an opinion of her. This should be interesting
@Jeff B and males. I've found myself in negative moral situations where I've slept with one women that I obviously led to believe we were exclusive and things where leading to a serious relationship and still sleep with one or two other women. I know it's wrong and I find myself quite uncomfortable thinking about it. I'm quite good looking and that's what I've been told by many people throughout my life. I feel like it's part of my identity to be successful with women. Also I feel like the need to mate is strong in this one.
In case anyone is in some sort of doubt about the dementia part, that part is so accurate. My own grandad went through it, and my brother and mother are working in aged care (70% of the facility have dementia) and I visit to help them sometimes. Yeah, families can be torn apart by it. The best friend grand dad breakdown I've personally seen twice, some of them forget the people they see everyday and I've had the same story about my real name about a hundred times. Its heart breaking to see someone just forget everything about themselves. And its not forgetting temporarily, they lose the memory permanently. I've seen people forget their spouse's face, and talk to them about them without knowing why the spouse is crying. Dementia is fucked up, if you think she wasn't being genuine about that, I'm gonna say you never had someone have this kind of breakdown in front of you. This is her breaking down, even if its not the media depicted way, in this I can say she is honest.
Idk about you guys but i see a mess of a girl who wanted some momentary satisfaction in the past and now has to face not only the consequences of her actions but the trauma she suffered from the past. Right now the last thing she needs is more bashing, she is already unstable, doing that wont help her.
Same people who love Etika will still bash her. They don't give a fuck about people if they're bashing her for something that has nothing to actually do with them. Twomad leading by example, for example. People are just going to keep killing themselves after being bullied and shit and afterwards people will pretend to be sorry. Shit is wild.
@@TheGreatFuckinWorm Etika was good person though，and through her bad decisions - she is objectively a bad one. We can understand her pain and the nuances of her character but I don't think she should be so easily forgiven since she'll never undo the damage she's done. Some people went to far with her but at the end of the day，she isn't hurt by anyone，a death threat is just another hater who probably has issues like her. So why are we forgiving aweful things she's done to Carson while she gets hate messages that's common online. Seems very inconsistent if we forgive her becuase “she has issues”. Shit we can say that about the people who say mean things to her too
kjfdsjknfjkna fknsdlfnla He said the people that say they miss Etika were the same people harassing her. Also are you saying just because it’s common means it’s right?
@@quantum7495 even if it isn't right doesn't undo the bad things she's done. Some people went too far with harrassing her and they're wrong for that. All I'm saying is that her negative actions deserve critism and can't be forgiven so easily because some people are assholes like her.
This channel really can show the real type of people they are. Even if some people are controversial, at the end of the day, they're human. As long as they move on.
to be fair they probably know the dislikes aren't against Dr K or HealthyGamer, and it still makes the video more popular. I definitely feel like the hate she's getting is waay out of proportion too tho
@jeffB Katerino was dating 2 men at the same time (the boyfriend she mentions, and IWillDominate) she then messed around with a few other men, making it seem like she was interested in one, and none of these men knew about each other, and no one knew she was dating anyone. Thats the gist, but I’m sure there are a TON of videos covering it, it’s the big drama of twitch
I can relate to her "depersonalisation". When I got too much going on and feel like things are slipping out of my control I kinda just check out and cruise along. It doesn't make anything better or less urgent, but I can ignore it easier until pressure gets too much and I feel like I swallowed hot lead, or whatever I was ignoring catches up with me and bites me in the ass. Can be really tough to get out of a rut like that but I'm getting better at forcing myself to do unpleasant things that need to get done. Even doing smaller stuff like cleaning etc helps me stay ontop of more important things like taxes, work, relationship maintenance or physical health.
For me, depersonalization is like when I do certain things, and convince myself that someone else did it, not me. Like I had times in my life where I would act completely opposite to my values, as if I were acting for a different life and not my own. So even though it's messed up, it's still an actual thing that can happen to some. It also makes people feel wrongly justified to do something wrong, just because "it's not me that's doing, it's another side of me. I guess an easier way to explain this is in acting, when you play certain parts, you get too emotionally into the part. You become an entirely different person in that moment. And somethings you just feel in that moment because you are supposed to feel it, not because you necessarily do(example: losing a loved one in a play that you are part of and acting that part out). That's what depersonalization feels like to me. I worry that this kind of personality is sociopathic and detached though.
She's such a colorful person. I love her "bubbly, extroverted" personality and I'm so sad for her, there's so much pain. I personally relate to her, I currently am figuring myself out and whether I also suffer from depersonalization.
I really enjoyed this video and I think Dr. K did a fantastic job with the interview. Although I haven’t been through what Kate has been through I felt like I could relate in some areas of the conversation. I hope she can continue to grow but I believe for her safety and others I don’t think she should return to streaming. I hope others found this video insightful like I did.
(Edit: BLACK LIVES MATTER! If you’re financially able to please donate to the MN relief fund and make sure to sign and share petitions! Every voice can help make an impact) This really changed my perspective on the girl. I wont lie as much as she said it wasnt for sympathy points it really did feel like it was at points; but you could also tell those were some genuine feelings. This vod helped me learn i depersonalize a lot too i didnt know there was a word for it. I also definitely think carson donated to show that the immense hate shes receiving is not ok. She fucked up big time and is paying the consequences she doesnt need thousands of ppl online telling her shes shit. Thanks dr k for what you do
Most cheating has nothing to do with sex. It's a craving for attention, feeling loved, being put on a pedestal that they actually seek and it becomes addictive
@vulture cyclops I tend to disagree, i think that men are seeking attention too, i think it's human and women just tend to admit it more. What surprised me is how fitz was easily dismissed for his actions towards his friend, while she received all the hate. I genuinely don't get this double standard, i feel like they are equally responsible. The mental disorder part is an easy way out, i do agree on that, i guess we'll see if she grows from this or go back to her old ways
@vulture cyclops I think it's mostly because many of us have been brought up that way. Very prominent part of media that targets women is about finding a partner and/or focuses on appearances. Men crave attention too but more from their piers. Women are often just a way of getting aproval from other men.
@Normie Respecter Nothing I said is because I am female nor is it coping. And several people made smart observations here but women being inherently needy isn't one.
"Is Pog champ a person or a thing? Pog champ sounds like keemstar, is a keemstar a thing?" Haha, that had me in stitches. I think they want keemstar on the show rofl.... that'd be hilarious.
The rant at the end put a lot of things in perspective for me I’ve been feeling so broken for the past year because I’ve started to realize how my brain/anxiety works against me. I haven’t been able to get proper help so I feel like I’m broken until I can But I’m 18. I have my whole life ahead of me. This isn’t the end I know I’ve dumped a lot of comments on this video, but I feel like I have to. If Dr. K or someone on his team happens to read them, then I know that they may feel like their hard work to spread this information is working. And if some other kid in the same situation as me sees this comment, then they’ll know they aren’t alone
i hope she continues to get help. she really seems like a sad person and i think this therapy will really be good for her. (before you call me a simp: i am a homosexual male. jfc.)
Here's the thing that everyone needs to understand and most do: Everyone makes mistakes, it is a part of living and it's unavoidable. The mistakes that we make derive from our state of mind and what's important to understand is that your state of mind changes constantly, it is how we are able to grow. The one thing that we do well is learn from our mistakes, which allows us to become better than who we were and closer to who we want to be. It is our responsibility to act upon our mistakes and not run away from them. It is only realistic way to move forward, literally.
@Darthwing Xodius for 1 thats an extreme which shouldn't be used for arguments sake (if you friend jumps of a bridge would you join them situation). 2 actually in Christianity you should forgive everyone before death. But let's not talk about religion. Forgive doesnt mean you have to like that person, it means you need to let go of the hate, but to not forget means that there actions should not go without consequence.
@Darthwing Xodius bro you misunderstand. The whole point is that you shouldn't tell anyone to forgive someone, that's stupid forgiveness is as you say something that comes from within and should be a persons choice. Let's say A guy named John killed someone close to both of us. I think he should be punished, and over time i will forgive his actions (saying I don't hate him) but you don't have too. People have their choices. Forgiveness is just what should be done for peace. Also as a side note I love to argue its fun. I didn't say or imply that I didn't want to. Extremes are just dumb points for arguments because it's like rare hypotheticals mostly and is like that label on some products you may buy that say *exceptions may apply* which goes for anything.
@Darthwing Xodius well I mean I can't argue with that because that is what forgiveness is, but there is multiple situations of forgiveness, whether its guilt, hate, or some other form. And hypothetical was the wrong word. The whole point is that it is an extreme and that level of forgiveness is a grey area that i wouldn't expect someone to get over. It would be too taxing for a normal person to just let go of that
First things first *WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO BEFORE GOING IN THE COMMENTS SO YOU DONT GET INFLUENCED* At first this video was really hard in the beginning for me to watch. I knew the news about her and everything she just said acted and did just pissed me off. I went in already with pre conceived notions and really thought she was trying to justify what she did. But after the video I feel no longer hatred but I guess understanding. And it was really good that Dr.k did this one without knowing anything about the situation , because he could speak with her effectively. Now I wonder about myself how I can help someone when I already have certain notions and conclusions formed about them. Gonna do some thinking on that. Thanks for this Dr.K
Carson: Donates 10k during a stream with his ex who cheated on him with several people jake paul: Loots during a protest under the guise of a dead man he doesn't even know the name of
Some people are calling Carson a simp for donating at the end. I can kinda get where this comes from, but what people are ignoring is that Carson donated to HealthyGamer, not Kate. Carson is being the bigger man by showing directly that he will not let a grudge against someone getting help from a network stop him from supporting the network; he’s not a petty person. This doesn’t mean he forgives Kate or forgets what she did. If anything, he’s not letting her have power over him in deciding to support a mental health network. And if that ain’t king shit, Idk what is.
That's a lot of assumptions and bad faith if you ask me. His message was specifically "Thank you for helping her" which means he already does forgive her. He's grieved and has moved past it. Of course he still cares about her, as she does him.
Orrr you could argue that she's going on dr. K for reviving her dead stream.. Since we saw how much of a cloutchaser she really is, noone can really tell..
Lol.. this is her way of "redemption" in order to make her "depresonalization" joke seem more believeable and spinning this into both "I am a victim of mental disorders" and also "look, I am trying to get better, I am a good person" all while getting attention to revive her stream. Psychopathy 101.
@@GravyyTrain ok so for mental health we are supposed to support people with depression when they do stuff that is bad to themselves like doing bad at school or being socially anxious but when mental issues present themselves as negative actions that hurt others they are evil incarnate? I'm not saying pretend that she did nothing wrong but let's not treat it as if she's fucking hitler either lol
@@PredatorH2O true, but i hate this situation since i can't really tell. I still don't forgive her for cheating, but i will admit that she must have had a pretty hard life up until now. So i think this dr. K talk is kinda justified
It's interesting that so many streamers that I've seen, when they start to get "real", they assume the audience is bored by that. In turn, the streamer feels this need to return to their streaming persona - where all the audience wants is for the streamer to continue being the real version of themselves. We the audience will even explicitly tell the streamer this, and yet the streamer refuses to believe it.
You think you know the story and heard the song and dance 1000 times before with every apology video anyone has every released, but this what people actually needed to see. Parts of her story are heartbreaking.
I think you should talk to Albert, he also cheated on someone and the lovely lovely people of the internet attacked him brutally But I feel like we should be able to hear his side too, what he did was really bad but we don't know what brought him to that point
Lily talked about this, he told her everything. It was something like he got bored of her and just cheated. I remember lily told this in a stream or something like that, it was sad :(
Something really clicked with me after watching this. I think it’s easy for everyone to group up on the “bad guy”. And we forgot that we are all just people. And that even the “bad guy” has a story. I wouldn’t support the mistakes Kate has made, but it was very heart warming to hear her story. And I don’t think of her as a “bad guy” anymore. More of another person with problems. I respect her coming on here and opening up.
DAMN!! Dr.10K you make me go through my childhood and revisit all the times i failed in life and all the emotions that comes with it..... over and over and over again.. understanding oneself is a hell of a process and you help me go through that and for that i thank you soo much i needed that.. my life is a big mess i mostly go on wihtout too much worrying about that but sometimes it comesback to me and watching your videos help me a big deal going through that and i really appreciate your work and i thank you for the bottom of my heart sir!!
Honestly one of the best streams, at the start Dr. K said "I don't know anything about your situation" and then I thought OH NO this is NOT gonna go good for Kate and was cringing so hard. Then later I was laughing my ass off when Dr K left when shit was getting serious and then almost tearing up when Kate talked about her abuse. The stream was a rollercoaster of emotions
@@august5135 when he made this comment, he didnt know that those sorts of serious/heavy topics would be there. He, just like me thought it would be mostly about cheating. Nobody expected this to be as heavy as it was.
Dr. K, at 1:52:55 you said you need to process for a second because you are feeling overwhelmed. What are you doing in those moments to help yourself overcome those feelings? I think this was a very good interview to show how even social media influencers, and entertainers are people too. I was quite surprised but also happy that Kate was able to share as much as she did about her life, how she felt about certain events, and also how she overcame them. I try not to judge others just from hearing one perspective as many things happened to me in my life as well, however I will admit it is easier when it is breaking news about some person on the internet I've never met before. I did judge Kate when I first learned about her and the incident but until now I didn't get to hear her side of the story and just sort of glanced at headlines and the such. Having Kate in this interview be as open as she was, was probably the most eye opening evidence to me that streamers are people too. You said it was okay to judge but why is it okay?
@Jeff B I'm saying that I'd rather understand first and judge last. I'm not saying anything about anybody other than the people who feel the same way as me and myself.
If you blindly hate someone just because you heard he/she did something bad is just a sign that you're really immature. It's easy to jump on the bandwagon of hating Katerino for what she did. Everyone fucks up sometimes, some much more than others. But people can change and if you actually listened and internalized what was told here you can clearly see she understands what she did and learnt from it.
I didn't really like Kate after I read about what she did, but watching this changed my perspective of her. What she did was definitely not ok, but we shouldn't bash her and hate her whole. It's weird being a public figure on the internet because the public doesn't know anything else besides what you decide to show them. Anyways, I respect everyone equally, and their actions make me either gain or lose respect for them. Respect is always fluctuating. Always have a minimum respect for everyone, and treat them as human beings who do stupid stuff.
Thanks for uploading the "Interviews". They honestly feel more like a session to me. I feel like in every talk with someone I can reflect something onto myself and I really like how you approach the different things. Thanks for doing those talks even though I can most of the time only watch them here on TH-cam, I believe you are helping a lot of other people, not just the person you're speaking to :)
she is so brave to go on here despite the excessive hate she has gotten. to be open and authentic about your trauma and how it has affected you in your adult life is something not a lot of people are willing to confess or admit to. so so so proud of Katerino. i wish her the absolute best. good work Dr. K
@@snapbrogman2368 my dude...she opend up about her sexual abuse that is fucking brave. Sure shes a shitty person, but opening up about that is so brave and I HATE her. I have to ask, do you have trauma? That stuff is not easy to open up about even to a professional
@@weebman2915 Hate is a strong emotion. Why do you feel hate for a complete stranger, who has never done you wrong, or even knows you exist? Seems like a waste of energy, that could be spent on something positive instead...
@@chihuahuainacone she is a liar and a cheat. Both of which I hate due to events of my personal life either it be directly affecting me or indirectly (no I have not been cheated on nor have i) and that's why. I know hate is a strong word, and that's why I project it in such a way
By the end of the talk itself, I can't help but sense that her self-forgiveness and willingness to outwardly reject being a victim are themselves subtle forms of defensiveness. I'm for sure missing a lot of context, but she doesn't come across in the talk as someone who's really understood themselves and found peace; it sounds like she's really smart and knows what a good, level-headed person is supposed to project in these situations. It's like "I see myself as fundamentally good-to the point I'm angry if a friend suggests otherwise-and a good person doesn't play the victim, so I'll say that I'm at fault and not a victim, also I'll forgive myself for it." I'm being a bit harsh in my assessment, but it's what came to mind while watching. I think she has the capacity to get where she says she is, I just wasn't convinced she's made it there yet.
@@blew1t chances are, you'll learn more than you need to know about dicks and vaginas, by virtue of being on the internet. On the other hand, if nobody forces the quadratic equation down your throat, you'll never even hear of it.
@@alfreddelatourquipenche8287 i dont think that holds true for every adolescent though, i feel like very few teens or whatever go into their sex life with the amount of info needed for it to be, uh, graceful. usually it's awkward. and i mean obviously the main point of sex ed is to teach kids about safe sex, but i think it could also help decrease awkwardness arising from sexual misinformation, or just lack of information, and i think that'd be especially helpful for people with vaginismus, because i'd imagine young men that aren't informed about that would be weirded out and it would just be a bad experience. maybe that sort of thing isn't worth spending much time on, but if there's gonna be sex ed lessons anyway, might as well briefly cover the bases of some common sexual conditions, because as kate said it's fairly common, some estimates say as many as 6% of women experience it
I mean they're slightly different. Disassociate is you kinda seperate from the situation you're in and everything happening, depersonalization is a step further in which you seperate from yourself. Your identity and your feelings stop being yours completely.
I feel very bad for Kate, something about this feel very bizarre. It seems like every answer she gives is completely untrue and that she is compulsively lying. Hard to watch her put her thoughts together when she cant keep track of them.
She's AWFUL at explaining her thoughts. Watching her say "ya know" 500 times, also watching her resort to saying depersonalization instead of just saying what she really wants to say. I feel there's a deeper reason inside her and that her "depersonalization" is just a cover up to the real reasons behind what she did. I don't know if she's scared, if she's trying to hide something, if there's a really dark side to her she doesn't want people to know about. Who knows, but "vagina thing" and other ways she handles questions from Dr. K are really odd.
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Love her chunky legs
I really wish dr.k coulda been here for etika
Fuck man. Too soon, still.
In an alternate universe, he's probably still with us because he got the appropriate help...RIP my guy
why you gotta that real shit, etika would have loved this
Yeah... I don't know if K would have saved Etika. But I do think he would have helped him out A LOT. Maybe that in and of itself would have been enough. A guy who takes everyone's mental illness seriously. Regardless of the things they have done and or said. I really do believe that as close minded as it might be.
@@calin6327 alright no it isnt tbh. we all miss him but hes been gone for a while now, talking about things that could of prevented or helped him isnt wrong or off the table. if anything we should of talked about this while he was still here.
Callmecarson donating 10k at the end of the stream is the biggest Chad energy. Edit: guys he donated the money to the Healthy Gamer mental health coaching program, NOT to Katerino, chill.
Nah, just big simp energy
That was the simpest shit ever
People here being opposed to improvement. He said 'thanks for helping her', because he wants her to be a better person. Shaming him for wanting a person to become better is the pettiest shit. The human race is fucked if we keep such negative attitudes.
Novenae mhm, sure
@@Novenae_CCG I agree that the people callling him a simp are retarded, but i don't think this will have a significant impact on the human race. Retarded people and internet will always be a thing.
DR. K PLEASE READ THIS: In Voicemeeter, you can set a limiter to each "strip" by left click + drag downwards on the "LED" volume indicators. I saw that you are hitting Red levels pretty god damn often and even if it sometimes isn't audible its not pleasant for your ears. Going in to Red values means the signal is "Clipping". If the signal is clipping, something/somewhere is distorting the output signal. Historically, peoples speakers have “poof’d” because of clipping. But this is nothing to worry about in this case. I heard you say you had VST-Host installed on your computer. That allows you to use external third party VST-FX Plug-Ins. My tip would be that you should try and find a tutorial on how to set up a effect chain with an EQ, Compressor and Limiter (At least a Limiter in the FX Chain!). You literally have everything installed to get a really good mic sound if you set it all up correctly :)
5head
audio is bad ass
upvote so boomer can learn audio lol
As an audio engineer I appreciate this post
@@TheConvectuoso As an writer and audio engineer I appreciate your appreciation on this post!
Dont dislike the video just because you dont like katerino, I really respect this channel and the video showing a different perspective
people are sheeple its how the internet works
@Jeff B what
I agree, that negatively affects the algorithm for Dr K he doesn’t deserve that
I don't understand peoples insane burning hatred for people that cheat. Is it a shitty thing to do? Yes. But treating someone who cheated as "subhuman trash" is so wild to me.
Im agree with the stranger
Timestamps:
00:00 introductions
07:30 Cheating & Mental Health
17:29 the relationship, vaginismus, emotions
29:30 Sexual abuse, depersonalization
40:29 Grandfather passed away, childhood
1:03:50 emotional processing, absence of anger, self-love
1:29:20 Meditation
1:45:50 Outro
1:52:10 Thank you, it’s ok to not love yourself
2:00:40 Thank you CallMeCarson, Sprim9189, Knightvision91
@@Mark-xw5yt Yeah, definitely agree hundred percent!
@Mark its katerinos career future :O
@@Mark-xw5yt hello Mark
Hey Hey
Carson is one of the smartest and strongest people around dude. He donated 10k to a great dude who's job is helping people. Dr K helped Kate for sure in this stream. It kinda showed people that kate is a human too. Carson is probably past being angry at her. Most likely just sad and disappointed by the situation and knows everyone involved got hit including kate. The donation is just pure king shit. Forgivness is not simping people
@@ghevisartor6005 MY MAN SquadW /s
@@ghevisartor6005 I don't think I'd call the average male or female streamer mature... Carson is the exception not the rule.
I agree
its easy to tell he was never really mad at her in his apology, just disappointed with both her and fitz like you said.
All people are human it doesn't mean anything except flowery language
Dr. K - Went to med school, 180k subs on TH-cam
Also Dr. K - I don't know how to plug in a second monitor
I;m stupid and even I know how to do that
Im a medstud and I dont know how to do tht either please sue me
@@Vyansya maybe only stupid people know how to do it
Vyansya its simple man all you do is plug it into your graphics card that is why it has multiple outputs of the same type.
As someone who works in IT currently, you would be surprised about who has no idea how to use technology outside their field lmao.
i think the reason why she's laughing so much, interrupts dr.k a lot and isnt focused is because she's really anxious even when she said she's relaxed her defense mechanism is like on high gear
(for people who think she's disrespecting dr. k when that's really not the case)
yeah i can relate to this whenever i talk about personal stuff i do the exact same thing where my mind is racing and im constantly giving an explanation for everything i say or do and laughing and when i was younger that would also include stuttering. So yeah i think you hit the nail on the head. She comes off as eccentric but im sure she doesnt feel too good about it.
@@AXharoth this comment was edited so the replies dont make any sense
Yeah I agree, they almost seem like ticks or somethings she not controlling
I agree. I think Dr. K was actively trying to not laugh at any of her jokes because doing so would just reinforce that defence mechanism. The dude is out here with these big brain psychological moves lol
She actually has ADHD/ADD if I remember correctly. It can definitely seem like she was uninterested/un-focused
Really disappointing to see how many so called ''healthy gamers'' throw all of that empathy and understanding for mental health out the window as soon as someone they don't like comes on stream.
I wouldn't group up his entire community from what you see in Twitch chat. Twitch chat is typically kind of toxic, and I'm assuming more trolls showed up knowing who he was going to be talking to.
Yea, its just become Katerino bad. Yes she cheated on many people but we havent let her improve herself at all. We cant hold grudges forever, I stopped caring a few weeks ago
@@grant.keegan how is people not liking her stopping her from improving herself..? Whos not letting her improve... ..?
OH shit its almost like engaging in repeatedly disgusting behavior marks you as a disgusting person, who would've guessed? Damn dude you just solved mental illness thanks MeatNinja.
I think is more of a "this person hurt someone" thing, not so much about hatting someone but hatting for the sake of retribution for their acctions, maybe that and people identifying with being cheated... I don't like her or what she did but if she needs help good for her
Regardless of your opinion of Kate, just appreciate the conversation for what it is. Its centered around why people do what they do. Not to punish them, not to shun them, but to help them. And to me, that's just beautiful and it's the best way to invoke real change :)
True, I don't ever want to see another suicidal breakdown that happened before. I dislike Kate but i won't go out of my way to cancel her.
If only Dr.K was around at the time Etika commited suicide. I think he would've appreciated talking to dr.k about his problems.
Except I don't believe anything she says in this video because she has a biased interest in reviving public perception of herself.
JessAtlas you have the right to not believe but be a little open minded I get what she did was awful and she was manipulative but the point of this wasn’t to garner sympathy it was a discussion you have every right to feel what you do
it's hard to sympathize with someone who you know purposefully got 7 different dicks while dating people
granted, I ended up sympathizing near the end
still, cheaters get my blood boiling
Dr. K getting confused over "what a Keemstar is" is priceless xD
Where
he likes to play dumb with a lot of things just for the reaction he gets. Pretty smart.
U mean enviable
@@FreshFriF I am 38 years old and barely know that Keemstar is a person; he has been mentioned on other random TH-cam videos as someone who literally runs a channel about drama and therefore has a very dark and drama filled orbit through the internet (please correct me if I'm wrong). What can happen when you're older and especially if you build up your own family and have a career that you devote huge amounts of time to is you find you don't have space in your brain for random internet people, you've already got so much on your own plate. The energy on twitch/TH-cam that I vibe with is Sips of the Yogscast, and I just passively listen and never interact, and that's about as far into twitch that I would expect other 38 year olds to like Dr. K to go. Just FYI.
It's great to see how much Dr. K has changed people. If someone laughs when they're nervous, they usually get called emotionally immature or "unready to talk". This comment section is the best thing to come out of TH-cam so far. You may get passively judged but they will never openly drag you down because they know what you're going through. Amazing stuff :^)
Ngl at first i gave a lot of smoke for the situation but this interview rlly opened up my eyes on how she has her own problems. Also made me realised not to judge anyone from face-value... good job Dr K
@@hurting thank you for your comment. When I first watched the beginning I was like wow I can’t believe she did all those things & I wanted to watch something else but I scrolled down to see what others were saying & seeing yours encouraged me to continue watching & I definitely learned something. We should not judge, we should be understanding.
when she started talking about her papa and his dementia it made me tear up because i just lost my grandmother last august to dementia and i was very very close to her as well. its been a while now but i still think about her.
I have been cheated on before. Never in a million years would I want that person who cheated on me to be harassed or to be treated as an irredeemable villain their whole lives. I am glad that they too are seeking help and bettering themselves.
Jordan's Unix-based Machine damn. That sucks hope you’re feeling good👍🙏
My friend was cheated on and decided to get back with her, cheat, and leave her. Do u think he did the right thing? I feel like she deserved it for playing with his emotions but it was a bit too far. Should he apologise?
@@Urmom-if5nc I think he wasted his and her time. Revenge is petty and silly, he should've used that time on moving on from her and betting himself. I hope both your friend and his ex use their time more wisely in the future.
@@whitesticcwilly8907 I'm doing great! It was a long time ago.
@@Urmom-if5nc yea he did go a bit far definally if she was willing to change. I get his mindset but it well just end in more negativity.
"Is Keemstar like Pogchamp?" nah man that's more like WeirdChamp to me
TRUE LULW
OkayChamp
PEPELAUGH LUL
What is a champ
More like should be in jail creep champ. Is there a champ for that?
Now this is the opening up I wanted Kate to do, this is way better than the small vids she did
if anything i think that small video did more damage than good, probably if she did like and hour video or something coming clean.
@@phitalsyndrome no apology she could have made would have changed anything.
@@phitalsyndrome it's the whole twitch community we're talking about here they would have hate/dislike spammed it regardless
@Coldfury I think that its possible that she actually did gain a lot from this but it also doesnt excuse her or her actions. She probably geuinly does want help, but she still also could still be a toxic person. The two can co-exist. I hope she geuinly gets better and she does seem to geuine about most of these things, however I dont think that makes her entitled to other peoples trust or forgiveness. She accepts she fucked up and It does seem shes geuine about it, and she really doesnt come off like she is trying to seek other peoples forgiveness. However her accepting that shes fucked up and moving through it does not erase the actions that she did Or make her entitled to people forgiving her. The reason that I don't think shes being manipulative is because of 1:24:56. I have dealt with manipulative people in the past and they don't think like that. But even if shes not being manipulative doesnt mean she is entitled to others forgiveness.
Coldfury everyone’s a human bud don’t forget that yeah she fucked up and maybe she doesn’t deserve all the success she could’ve had but that part is subjective and the fact that she knows she fucked up is just reason to be at peace with it instead of wasting energy trying to hate on this random girl that you’ve never met
People who send death threats because someone they don't know cheated on their boyfriend need to take a big look at their own moral compass.
I’m shocked there isn’t a “simp” comment on this
simp
Which one boyfriends tho?
@@piewdisiegaming uhhhhhhhhhh the 1198th one i think
More than that they need to fucking get their priorities right. Like taking interest in their own life instead for starters. But if seems like people live through others on the internet today and that's just... beyond sad.
You're doing great work dr. K, good luck with starting up the program. Everyone definitely deserves the opportunity to have a talk like this, during their self development stage.
Katerino's therapist is punchin the air right now
Wow this was very personal on her part. I have more respect and understanding of Kate now, knowing her side of things. It doesn't make what she did okay, but it at least allows viewers to see for themselves that she is only human and humans make mistakes. She's obviously trying to better herself and I admire her for that.
@@johnbaptist5622 Woah who hurt you?
@@Hchiskasj Nobody hurt me. I have a girlfriend, who I love very much, and I'm going to an excellent university. It isn't hard to think rationally. This girl was just plain ridiculous. She was also plain cruel playing all these guys. I have no sympathy for her at all. I truly hope she loses all the success she's gained thus far.
@@johnbaptist5622 wow that's some stron
@Viszlát Nyár That's not a woman thing, that's a human thing. People will always gravitate towards doing what is easiest and convenient to the point of greed, it's not something related to sex or gender
To me, she did this of her own volition, and she probably didn't even give Carson any either. Carson may not like that we're still dogging her, but he should love every minute of it. Kate fucked up big time, cheating is BEYOND redemption. Always has always will.
Y'all need to understand the difference between helping someone and simping. Carson was literally being thankful that Kate was getting help and y'all think he's a simp? 2020 is the worst year.
I don't think she's actually getting help. She seemed very insincere for most of the talk. I think she's just learning the right things to say to manage her public image. I got no impression that she's genuinely remorseful.
He wasn’t simping at all the money went to dr k showing how he’s thankful dr k is helping her?
Holding a door open for a girl will get you called a simp. I just don't understand the toxicity of these people
@@totlyepic pepelaugh
Prepare yourself for the future: Memes are only going to get dumber and dumber as current/future generations grow up.
This session was very heavy! And this video has a lot of power in it. It should be shown to those who needs it!
This has to be one of the most powerful sessions Dr K has ever done.
CallMeCarson donated $10,000 "Thank you for helping her." I'm glad he doesn't hold ill will towards her even after what happened. Not necessarily for her sake but his own. He seems like a good person.
Couldn't be me wouldn't be able to look at her face
10 grand? well he did it so no one else becomes like her and hurts anyone else
@@slurqt lol beta
DeuPKay fun fact we not wolves so we dont use alpha, beta ranks as to describe people
@@DeuPKay I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're a teenager or a kid. You'll get it one day dude. Sometimes you gotta spare your own sanity by staying away from people that hurt you before.
I forgave her the moment she said "Vagina broken. Don't work". I laughed way too hard. In all seriousness, I've been hurt by cheating a lot and I won't lie, I judged Katerino in the same way I judged those who hurt me. I realize now that was wrong, and I found she was actually fairly similar to me in some ways when all I wanted to do was silently judge her. I'm glad I saw this. It opened my eyes to not being so quick to judge based on my past experiences.
This was a good stream. How often do you get to hear this in depth about the mind of a perpetrator of a scandal? It's incredibly illuminating and reminds us of the humanity even in 'bad' people
Edit: To clarify, I'm not saying whether or not Katerino deserves forgiveness, or whether or not she is a bad person. I don't have any power to make that judgement, neither do I care to. I just really appreciate the perspective.
perfect comment
Indeed. I really wanted to hear her part of the story in this - in order to understand her and people that can be unfaithful in relationship, their motivations, inner state and history.
Well serial killers are fairly human as well
@@haticll I would love to hear Dr K talk to a serial killer.
@@elijahbuscho7715 same.
I have never clicked faster in my whole life
Factual
Why though
Broke my finger while clicking
You probably care way too much about internet drama.Maybe you should think about that.
@@lolizorz youve got point
Sound guy here: it was a big MISTAKE turning up the gain on your microphone. You pushed the input gain into distortion. In fact, you audio is always distorting on your videos. Look up "audio clipping", "gain staging", and also "vocal compression" seeing as you tend to sometimes increase your vocal volume very much, in sudden bursts.
yes! there was def nothing wrong with it, it annoyed me when it was turned up
Lhol I am also a sound person one who knows how to hear the sounds with proper quantities
Hey man :) Maybe if you send him a DM you can help him out via discord 1 on 1 :) Only if you want to of course! I think DR. K needs a bunch of help perfecting his streaming set-up x)
You can tell she doesn't like that she laughs. Seems like it annoys her.
john, I want a divorce
Relatable in some way
Joker
corn bob AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Her laughing throughout the whole thing really got to me. I can see how laughter is her shield to not crying. Holding everything in that’s happened to her. People can do bad things, but I truly believe many deserve second chances. Unless if there Hitler.
I respect Kate for seeking help, being open and honest, and trying to understand herself. I'm going through a similar situation (didn't cheat on 7 people or whatever) where I need to understand myself and my problems to move forward, so I respect that a lot.
That was really a powerful episode! I asked myself a lot of questions and did a lot of work on myself during this show. Props to Kate for coming on during this time
This was really eye opening in a lot of ways. I relate to Kate in a lot and watching this made me realize how much I struggle with Disassociation and Depersonalization in my own life. I had no idea she was sexually abused as a child and had been through so much trauma in her life. Nothing justified what she did but it is definitely insightful.
@Semore Taffie people have their own reactions to trauma
I'm glad she's brought up awareness of Vaginismus. I myself struggled with it for years and it caused problems in a lot of my relationships.
I developed it while I was sick and later diagnosed with cancer and endometriosis. It's been tough.
how open vagina
Do you know what timestamp she talks about that?
Natasha Tides 17:29
Spoot thank you
you know, its a weird feeling to relate so hard to someone like kate but goddammit here i am. I guess i understand myself a lot better by understanding her
!! I as well.
@Luigi DeNardis llol idek who she is i just saw this from watching chill
@Luigi DeNardis how old are you
@Luigi DeNardis yikes, man. Take a chill pill
Is it just me or her talking a lot, jumping from topic to topic, talking with rich and vibrant vocabulary is some sort of defense mechanism? Every time Dr. K. pressed gently on a serious issue, she immediately ran away into "storytelling" territory where she talked and talked and in the same time, mentally separating herself from emotions and feelings. It felt like Dr. K was chasing a bunny through a complicated maze, and every time one would think that Dr. K. "had" her pinned against the wall she managed to get away from his grasp. And when he finally "had" her during meditation, calmed her down and had her focused on one hard memory she was legitimately scared.
I know jackshit about psychology but I don't think she had dealt with everything on an emotional level. Her brain processed everything, she definitely put a lot of thought into her past, her abuse, her papa dying, her recent cheating, but I don't think she's emotionally ready to deal with everything she lived through. It's good that she's seeing a therapist, she will definitely need some help with that.
It could be a defense mechanism, it could also be that she has so many years of unproccessed thoughts and emotions all bottled up that whenever she does open up, the dam kinda bursts and it all comes flooding out at once, thus making it very scattered, unfocused, rambly and a bit chaotic. It's also possible that because focusing in on one memory makes her scared as you put it, she then has to move quickly from topic to topic as to avoid lingering in one place and feeling that fear, which is understandable.
yes and its totally normal for a person with a lot of trauma , stop judging
thats the fucking point einstein
i think your observation is valid. she uses her laughing as defense mechanism and she does it a lot. shes not relaxed and she certainly spends a lot of energy for just being okay.
Fibbles OH MY GOD I GET YOU SO HARD, that happened with my adhd too, one og my therapists tried to talk about stuff that i was really sensitive to and i tried to talk about other stuff and then i just left.
Dr K should become president of the world. Love this guy so much, hope i can hug him sometime for helping me so much
Much love to you BOOMER
Stfu
he definitly doesnt look like a boomer. i wonder how old he is, he looks 30 max.
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LULW That title is like going to College of Live PepeLaugh
Parece que encontrei um brasileiro. Se possível, curtiria trocar uma ideia contigo sobre essa parada toda.
I'm glad Kate did this. Yeah, what she did was a very bad thing and she has to take responsibility for hurting people. But there were people going just a bit too far with it. If you see her as a person and you hear her experiences you sympathize with her on a human level and it's harder to be so cruel to someone who made a really bad choice like we all do at some point.
Imagine talking about all this incredibly personal stuff on the internet for anybody to see, that would be so difficult
@Turquoise Cheetah shes being forced to do it by witch hunting assholes like you. If she doesn't give her full story everyone online will continue to hate her because they don't understand. What is your problem.
@@Vero-jz5ex Imagine a public figure trying to do PR.
I've been dealing with a metric ton of bottled up emotions during this quarantine, and your channel has actually helped me to shed some light on what i'm feeling. Thank you Dr. K. , you're doing something amazing with your channel.
You're disliking Dr.K not Kate.
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Dr. K's knowledge is futile in this matter.
I guarantee you, there is no helping this woman.
Take it from me and the small but enlightening handful of dating NIGHTMARES I've experienced, these types of girls rarely if ever, change.
@@ChristUponus That is as ridiculous as saying vaccines are ineffective because there are SOME people that they don't work on. Of course some women can't be helped, but it is ridiculous to make a sweeping statement and assert that these type of women cannot be helped based on your personal experience with them.
@@ChristUponus Also, you said they "rarely, if ever, change," which implies that, in your eyes, there is still a possibility of them changing. If that is true, Dr. K's expertise is NOT futile. In your eyes, there is a chance of her changing, and so people SHOULD try to help her.
@@ChristUponus LMAO are you really saying that to a harvard psychologist who is professionally trained to help people mentally by talking shit about his knowlege being futile?
I get that she made a mistake, and that shouldn't necessarily be forgotten all together, but y'all also need to learn to let shit go. It's obvious she is at least trying to be better, she took full responsibility for the cheating and emphasized that there wasn't any excuse for what she did.
@Green suit guy that was for the doc not for her
Green suit guy How does that make Spoonesi a simp? I’m pretty sure he’s defending Carson and not her but either way you sound like an incel. Go get laid or sum and calm tf down
Green suit guy Same can be said about the word simp. It’s overused af and it’s lost all its meaning kind of like ‘boomer’. But hey if you made ur peace with being a lonely loser who can’t get a girl than who am I to judge? I also don’t see how I’m a simp for defending Spoonesi who was defending Carson. Nobody in this thread is defending katerino u beta fuck. And also getting laid might not be the measure of a man but it definitely shows whether a chick even views you as a man which clearly they don’t considering u don’t get any
Green suit guy Why don’t you go do something with ur life instead of being such an angry incel on the internet like go outside for once, or go to the gym, pick up a new hobby or something? I’m just looking out for u buddy
Green suit guy I saw that deleted comment you pussy. I guess u realized how stupid u sounded
to people saying that Katerino should have gone offline: I think that would go against the point of healthygamer to help others (in this case where the interviewee is comfortable with it being broadcasted). people watching on twitch might not know this channel on yt, and some may connect with these discussions (maybe not with cheating, but maybe with discussions on vaginismus, self-acceptance, defense mechanisms, and grieving).
even if it were for clout, the fact that healthygamer can bring these topics to light and educate viewers is more important than the intent of the interviewee imo.
@@nuclear804 I'm sorry for what happened to your mom. I'm glad to hear that you learned from the stream, though.
Thank you for sharing your story.
as well as the fact that, she shouldn't be forced to not talk about things publicly or not allowed to stream because she makes a mistake. she has owned up to it and knows she is at fault of it.
@@LittleB1RDY definitely. I feel that this also makes more sense than my original comment.
I think that, even in the case that discussion on stream may not be applicable to the audience, interviewees should feel free to speak publicly with Dr K if they choose to.
In the comments section you can see the real biggest plague in history happen, drama addiction, that's the world boss of mental health. Those people are beyond hope.
Drama adicction is more dangerous than corona and black death together
I'll never understand how these people get so emotionally involved in other people's relationships. Felt the same way when the Doc had his scandal. What a waste of energy.
Cancelled culture at work here. All these zoomers stuck at home with nothing better to do.
where are all these toxic comments? i cant find one comment that bashes this girl or this video
junayd mohammed they’re a lot more drowned out but you’ll mostly find them in the replies to comments where people are just pointing out (not excusing) that trauma can lead people to doing fucked up things such as cheating
Not to mention katherine, it seems to me that these interviews show that you can have a normal conversation without unnecessary accusations, but with guiding you on the mistakes you made, and how be better person.
You guys are actually surprisingly blind and naive, I'm a total tool for expecting more from the internet though.
I can't believe my eyes with this comment section, how in the blessed soaring Fuck can you say this sort of thing?
Just because she's got a fairly pretty face doesn't mean you should so easily give her the benefit of the doubt.
Have some integrity.
@@ChristUponus Being on the neutral ground is a great way to live a life, going after someone just feels wrong in any way. No need to push your opinion on someone, let them speak their mind and move on, maybe even show your opinion while accepting the other.
Not saying that you can't have your opinion, just forcing it onto people is kind of weird ngl
@@ChristUponus Did she fuck up? Yes, I'd say so. Does saying it help anyone, does it even do anything? It helps no one, it does nothing.
If she wants to get better, I would rather cheer her on or remain silent than shit on her.
† oмnιaмoroυѕ † What Katerino did was horrible, but what good does it make if we keep shitting on her and insulting her? Nothing, at the same time, praising her won’t do good either. The best course of action is to let her get the help she needs. Therapy isn’t a cure, but it’s a treatment that makes life more bearable and opens new avenues for positive change.
@@ChristUponus I wrote not to mention katherino so i didn't talk about specifically her. I don't defend her and what she did was clearly wrong. So calm down
omg this got me crying dang. it just makes me mad that pedophiles do this is the exact reason why the map community on twitter is disgusting. after that said stay safe and if you are sexal abused as a kid it's not your fault your loved don't feel like you're not pure because of that.
From my experience these abused children grow up to be the same as katerino. Cheating on bfs and having multiple guys. Sad, that it happened to them, fuck the people who did that to them, but you have to be careful with these abused people, when you’re in a relationship with them.
@@norydaisy7393 yeah thanks for the input that's true and you do have to be careful very much so. I didn't judge much when I she said she cheated because I know everyone cheats for a reason I just like to know. I've been cheated on and it feels like it breaks you and you fall into a dark pit but people have to carry themselves to try to understand why they cheated.
@@Timely7 you sound like a nice and reasonable person, have a nice day! :0
@@norydaisy7393 aww thanks I try my best to grow you are a respectful person and nice as well you have an amazing day or night.
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It feels super strange having this in the background while I'm working. I guess this is what a real therapist does, and they've had years of training to be that way, but he was super super kind and even when driving the conversation a certain way it felt like he knew exactly what he was doing and he wouldn't lead you into any traps or anything.
I know very little about this whole drama thing with Katerino, only that she received A LOT of hate. I'm sorta glad I'm going into this without an opinion of her. This should be interesting
what do you think so far?
@@popcorn.164 Yeah what do you think about it.
Update on your opinion of the situation, friend?
@@catfan__ Damn. R.I.P Ben.
@Jeff B and males. I've found myself in negative moral situations where I've slept with one women that I obviously led to believe we were exclusive and things where leading to a serious relationship and still sleep with one or two other women.
I know it's wrong and I find myself quite uncomfortable thinking about it. I'm quite good looking and that's what I've been told by many people throughout my life. I feel like it's part of my identity to be successful with women. Also I feel like the need to mate is strong in this one.
I dont know an inkling about how Katerino functions and who she is as a person, but damn it takes a lot of balls to do this.
I have sympathy for her after watching this. I relate to her so much. Thank you Kate for being brave enough to do this.
In case anyone is in some sort of doubt about the dementia part, that part is so accurate. My own grandad went through it, and my brother and mother are working in aged care (70% of the facility have dementia) and I visit to help them sometimes. Yeah, families can be torn apart by it.
The best friend grand dad breakdown I've personally seen twice, some of them forget the people they see everyday and I've had the same story about my real name about a hundred times. Its heart breaking to see someone just forget everything about themselves.
And its not forgetting temporarily, they lose the memory permanently. I've seen people forget their spouse's face, and talk to them about them without knowing why the spouse is crying.
Dementia is fucked up, if you think she wasn't being genuine about that, I'm gonna say you never had someone have this kind of breakdown in front of you. This is her breaking down, even if its not the media depicted way, in this I can say she is honest.
This was such a ride man. I really learned from this video. Thank you Dr. K!
s/o to Dr. K for giving Kate a chance and humanizing someone who was so villainizedby the community.
Idk about you guys but i see a mess of a girl who wanted some momentary satisfaction in the past and now has to face not only the consequences of her actions but the trauma she suffered from the past. Right now the last thing she needs is more bashing, she is already unstable, doing that wont help her.
Same people who love Etika will still bash her. They don't give a fuck about people if they're bashing her for something that has nothing to actually do with them. Twomad leading by example, for example. People are just going to keep killing themselves after being bullied and shit and afterwards people will pretend to be sorry. Shit is wild.
@@TheGreatFuckinWorm agreed. That Twomad interview was terrible
@@TheGreatFuckinWorm Etika was good person though，and through her bad decisions - she is objectively a bad one. We can understand her pain and the nuances of her character but I don't think she should be so easily forgiven since she'll never undo the damage she's done. Some people went to far with her but at the end of the day，she isn't hurt by anyone，a death threat is just another hater who probably has issues like her. So why are we forgiving aweful things she's done to Carson while she gets hate messages that's common online. Seems very inconsistent if we forgive her becuase “she has issues”. Shit we can say that about the people who say mean things to her too
kjfdsjknfjkna fknsdlfnla He said the people that say they miss Etika were the same people harassing her. Also are you saying just because it’s common means it’s right?
@@quantum7495 even if it isn't right doesn't undo the bad things she's done. Some people went too far with harrassing her and they're wrong for that. All I'm saying is that her negative actions deserve critism and can't be forgiven so easily because some people are assholes like her.
This channel really can show the real type of people they are. Even if some people are controversial, at the end of the day, they're human. As long as they move on.
The way therapists talk is so fucking comforting. I miss mine
Why the dislikes Dr K is just doing his job we all know Kate's history but that doesn't mean you should dislike the video because she was on his show.
to be fair they probably know the dislikes aren't against Dr K or HealthyGamer, and it still makes the video more popular. I definitely feel like the hate she's getting is waay out of proportion too tho
@jeffB Katerino was dating 2 men at the same time (the boyfriend she mentions, and IWillDominate) she then messed around with a few other men, making it seem like she was interested in one, and none of these men knew about each other, and no one knew she was dating anyone. Thats the gist, but I’m sure there are a TON of videos covering it, it’s the big drama of twitch
Piss off with this herd mentality manipulation attempt, if someone wants to dislike the video that's their completely valid choice.
@@vinny5638 No need to get aggressive, I don't really see any malicious intent in this at all.
Vinny
And I have a right to say whatever I want so you piss off dawg
oof this got me tearing up. ty for doing his kate, I struggle with depersonalization too
Me too and it sucks shit. Hope you've been keeping well
I can relate to her "depersonalisation". When I got too much going on and feel like things are slipping out of my control I kinda just check out and cruise along.
It doesn't make anything better or less urgent, but I can ignore it easier until pressure gets too much and I feel like I swallowed hot lead, or whatever I was ignoring catches up with me and bites me in the ass.
Can be really tough to get out of a rut like that but I'm getting better at forcing myself to do unpleasant things that need to get done. Even doing smaller stuff like cleaning etc helps me stay ontop of more important things like taxes, work, relationship maintenance or physical health.
For me, depersonalization is like when I do certain things, and convince myself that someone else did it, not me. Like I had times in my life where I would act completely opposite to my values, as if I were acting for a different life and not my own. So even though it's messed up, it's still an actual thing that can happen to some. It also makes people feel wrongly justified to do something wrong, just because "it's not me that's doing, it's another side of me.
I guess an easier way to explain this is in acting, when you play certain parts, you get too emotionally into the part. You become an entirely different person in that moment. And somethings you just feel in that moment because you are supposed to feel it, not because you necessarily do(example: losing a loved one in a play that you are part of and acting that part out). That's what depersonalization feels like to me.
I worry that this kind of personality is sociopathic and detached though.
Wow you guys are really wholesome! Even Katerino is very communicated and trying very hard to cope with the situation. Dr K is excellent as always.
Dr K, you're one of the many support beams holding up my mental health. Thank you.
She's such a colorful person. I love her "bubbly, extroverted" personality and I'm so sad for her, there's so much pain.
I personally relate to her, I currently am figuring myself out and whether I also suffer from depersonalization.
I really enjoyed this video and I think Dr. K did a fantastic job with the interview. Although I haven’t been through what Kate has been through I felt like I could relate in some areas of the conversation. I hope she can continue to grow but I believe for her safety and others I don’t think she should return to streaming. I hope others found this video insightful like I did.
(Edit: BLACK LIVES MATTER! If you’re financially able to please donate to the MN relief fund and make sure to sign and share petitions! Every voice can help make an impact)
This really changed my perspective on the girl. I wont lie as much as she said it wasnt for sympathy points it really did feel like it was at points; but you could also tell those were some genuine feelings. This vod helped me learn i depersonalize a lot too i didnt know there was a word for it. I also definitely think carson donated to show that the immense hate shes receiving is not ok. She fucked up big time and is paying the consequences she doesnt need thousands of ppl online telling her shes shit. Thanks dr k for what you do
Most cheating has nothing to do with sex. It's a craving for attention, feeling loved, being put on a pedestal that they actually seek and it becomes addictive
@vulture cyclops I tend to disagree, i think that men are seeking attention too, i think it's human and women just tend to admit it more. What surprised me is how fitz was easily dismissed for his actions towards his friend, while she received all the hate. I genuinely don't get this double standard, i feel like they are equally responsible. The mental disorder part is an easy way out, i do agree on that, i guess we'll see if she grows from this or go back to her old ways
@vulture cyclops I think it's mostly because many of us have been brought up that way. Very prominent part of media that targets women is about finding a partner and/or focuses on appearances.
Men crave attention too but more from their piers. Women are often just a way of getting aproval from other men.
@Normie Respecter Nothing I said is because I am female nor is it coping. And several people made smart observations here but women being inherently needy isn't one.
@Normie Respecter why?
"Is Pog champ a person or a thing? Pog champ sounds like keemstar, is a keemstar a thing?"
Haha, that had me in stitches.
I think they want keemstar on the show rofl.... that'd be hilarious.
keem is too insecure and is also a sociopath to be on the show.
DaftFader PogU dr K is king boomer
@@cerreta752 ye i doubt it would ever happen, but i'd love to watch it if somehow it did.
@@1Loftwing1 ok pogchamp
mental illness doesnt exist in his mind apparently.
I swear she be shocking me with new vital information related to the topic every 5 mins, no harm meant tho hope she's well now
first 30 minutes sounds like she hasn't gotten over her fathers death at all. :(
The rant at the end put a lot of things in perspective for me
I’ve been feeling so broken for the past year because I’ve started to realize how my brain/anxiety works against me. I haven’t been able to get proper help so I feel like I’m broken until I can
But I’m 18. I have my whole life ahead of me. This isn’t the end
I know I’ve dumped a lot of comments on this video, but I feel like I have to. If Dr. K or someone on his team happens to read them, then I know that they may feel like their hard work to spread this information is working. And if some other kid in the same situation as me sees this comment, then they’ll know they aren’t alone
i hope she continues to get help. she really seems like a sad person and i think this therapy will really be good for her.
(before you call me a simp: i am a homosexual male. jfc.)
Feeling empathetic for a person who has gone through trauma does not make you a simp.
Can still simp for Dr. K I guess... :D
Here's the thing that everyone needs to understand and most do: Everyone makes mistakes, it is a part of living and it's unavoidable. The mistakes that we make derive from our state of mind and what's important to understand is that your state of mind changes constantly, it is how we are able to grow. The one thing that we do well is learn from our mistakes, which allows us to become better than who we were and closer to who we want to be.
It is our responsibility to act upon our mistakes and not run away from them. It is only realistic way to move forward, literally.
Well, she hurt good people. Forgive, but never forget what she did.
No, cheating a deep seeded evil problem within the character of the person. There isn't really any turning back from this.
@Darthwing Xodius for 1 thats an extreme which shouldn't be used for arguments sake (if you friend jumps of a bridge would you join them situation). 2 actually in Christianity you should forgive everyone before death. But let's not talk about religion. Forgive doesnt mean you have to like that person, it means you need to let go of the hate, but to not forget means that there actions should not go without consequence.
@Darthwing Xodius bro you misunderstand. The whole point is that you shouldn't tell anyone to forgive someone, that's stupid forgiveness is as you say something that comes from within and should be a persons choice. Let's say A guy named John killed someone close to both of us. I think he should be punished, and over time i will forgive his actions (saying I don't hate him) but you don't have too. People have their choices. Forgiveness is just what should be done for peace. Also as a side note I love to argue its fun. I didn't say or imply that I didn't want to. Extremes are just dumb points for arguments because it's like rare hypotheticals mostly and is like that label on some products you may buy that say *exceptions may apply* which goes for anything.
@Darthwing Xodius well I mean I can't argue with that because that is what forgiveness is, but there is multiple situations of forgiveness, whether its guilt, hate, or some other form. And hypothetical was the wrong word. The whole point is that it is an extreme and that level of forgiveness is a grey area that i wouldn't expect someone to get over. It would be too taxing for a normal person to just let go of that
First things first *WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO BEFORE GOING IN THE COMMENTS SO YOU DONT GET INFLUENCED*
At first this video was really hard in the beginning for me to watch.
I knew the news about her and everything she just said acted and did just pissed me off.
I went in already with pre conceived notions and really thought she was trying to justify what she did.
But after the video I feel no longer hatred but I guess understanding.
And it was really good that Dr.k did this one without knowing anything about the situation , because he could speak with her effectively.
Now I wonder about myself how I can help someone when I already have certain notions and conclusions formed about them. Gonna do some thinking on that.
Thanks for this Dr.K
The video ending on 'Is a Keemstar a thing?' is hilarious
LMAO
Yea that was the best ending XD
I've come to the conclusion that I need my own personal Dr.k lmao. Amazing video 👌
Carson: Donates 10k during a stream with his ex who cheated on him with several people
jake paul: Loots during a protest under the guise of a dead man he doesn't even know the name of
Some people are calling Carson a simp for donating at the end. I can kinda get where this comes from, but what people are ignoring is that Carson donated to HealthyGamer, not Kate. Carson is being the bigger man by showing directly that he will not let a grudge against someone getting help from a network stop him from supporting the network; he’s not a petty person. This doesn’t mean he forgives Kate or forgets what she did. If anything, he’s not letting her have power over him in deciding to support a mental health network. And if that ain’t king shit, Idk what is.
I couldnt agree more man. I have so much more respect for him.
That's a lot of assumptions and bad faith if you ask me. His message was specifically "Thank you for helping her" which means he already does forgive her. He's grieved and has moved past it. Of course he still cares about her, as she does him.
Carson is a man we do not deserve
@@ticklord ding ding ding
the real "king shit" is not being super toxic about stuff that's not really their business
Forgiving someone doesn't make u a "simp" u guys lol
It's really amazing how open she is with everything that happened to her
Takes courage to face the crowd like that. Respect.
Orrr you could argue that she's going on dr. K for reviving her dead stream.. Since we saw how much of a cloutchaser she really is, noone can really tell..
Lol.. this is her way of "redemption" in order to make her "depresonalization" joke seem more believeable and spinning this into both "I am a victim of mental disorders" and also "look, I am trying to get better, I am a good person" all while getting attention to revive her stream. Psychopathy 101.
@@GravyyTrain ok so for mental health we are supposed to support people with depression when they do stuff that is bad to themselves like doing bad at school or being socially anxious but when mental issues present themselves as negative actions that hurt others they are evil incarnate?
I'm not saying pretend that she did nothing wrong but let's not treat it as if she's fucking hitler either lol
@@vidzorkus6192 Maby that's why she went there but it could still become a genuine conversation.
@@PredatorH2O true, but i hate this situation since i can't really tell. I still don't forgive her for cheating, but i will admit that she must have had a pretty hard life up until now. So i think this dr. K talk is kinda justified
It's interesting that so many streamers that I've seen, when they start to get "real", they assume the audience is bored by that. In turn, the streamer feels this need to return to their streaming persona - where all the audience wants is for the streamer to continue being the real version of themselves. We the audience will even explicitly tell the streamer this, and yet the streamer refuses to believe it.
You think you know the story and heard the song and dance 1000 times before with every apology video anyone has every released, but this what people actually needed to see. Parts of her story are heartbreaking.
I think you should talk to Albert, he also cheated on someone and the lovely lovely people of the internet attacked him brutally
But I feel like we should be able to hear his side too, what he did was really bad but we don't know what brought him to that point
Lily talked about this, he told her everything. It was something like he got bored of her and just cheated. I remember lily told this in a stream or something like that, it was sad :(
@@tzshadow123 oh dam really :( that's brutal. I can't even begin to imagine how she felt hearing him say those words
Something really clicked with me after watching this. I think it’s easy for everyone to group up on the “bad guy”. And we forgot that we are all just people. And that even the “bad guy” has a story. I wouldn’t support the mistakes Kate has made, but it was very heart warming to hear her story. And I don’t think of her as a “bad guy” anymore. More of another person with problems. I respect her coming on here and opening up.
DAMN!! Dr.10K you make me go through my childhood and revisit all the times i failed in life and all the emotions that comes with it..... over and over and over again.. understanding oneself is a hell of a process and you help me go through that and for that i thank you soo much i needed that.. my life is a big mess i mostly go on wihtout too much worrying about that but sometimes it comesback to me and watching your videos help me a big deal going through that and i really appreciate your work and i thank you for the bottom of my heart sir!!
Oh this will be good
Honestly one of the best streams, at the start Dr. K said "I don't know anything about your situation" and then I thought OH NO this is NOT gonna go good for Kate and was cringing so hard. Then later I was laughing my ass off when Dr K left when shit was getting serious and then almost tearing up when Kate talked about her abuse. The stream was a rollercoaster of emotions
@duncan Delano Donut soo.. was hearing about her father dying and being sexually abused at age 4-6 good for you? fucking wierdo
@@august5135 when he made this comment, he didnt know that those sorts of serious/heavy topics would be there. He, just like me thought it would be mostly about cheating. Nobody expected this to be as heavy as it was.
August fuck yeah that’s was honestly the best part. Once she started talking about getting abused I couldn’t help but get hard
Hello Moto man get some help
I was also abused as a kid and had a lot of difficulty developing social skills and making good decisions.
That is sad to hear. Are you better at that now?
Same
Still scrolling through the comments to see who asked
@@greenplateio lmaooo
@@greenplateio Found the Katerino simp
Dr. K, at 1:52:55 you said you need to process for a second because you are feeling overwhelmed. What are you doing in those moments to help yourself overcome those feelings?
I think this was a very good interview to show how even social media influencers, and entertainers are people too. I was quite surprised but also happy that Kate was able to share as much as she did about her life, how she felt about certain events, and also how she overcame them. I try not to judge others just from hearing one perspective as many things happened to me in my life as well, however I will admit it is easier when it is breaking news about some person on the internet I've never met before. I did judge Kate when I first learned about her and the incident but until now I didn't get to hear her side of the story and just sort of glanced at headlines and the such. Having Kate in this interview be as open as she was, was probably the most eye opening evidence to me that streamers are people too. You said it was okay to judge but why is it okay?
Understanding first, judgement last
Judge and seek to understand simultaneously.
@Jeff B did I?
Jeff B way to judge him for judging you for disliking KEKW
Matt
*Judging to the 10th power*
@Jeff B I'm saying that I'd rather understand first and judge last.
I'm not saying anything about anybody other than the people who feel the same way as me and myself.
If you blindly hate someone just because you heard he/she did something bad is just a sign that you're really immature. It's easy to jump on the bandwagon of hating Katerino for what she did. Everyone fucks up sometimes, some much more than others. But people can change and if you actually listened and internalized what was told here you can clearly see she understands what she did and learnt from it.
I didn't really like Kate after I read about what she did, but watching this changed my perspective of her. What she did was definitely not ok, but we shouldn't bash her and hate her whole. It's weird being a public figure on the internet because the public doesn't know anything else besides what you decide to show them. Anyways, I respect everyone equally, and their actions make me either gain or lose respect for them. Respect is always fluctuating. Always have a minimum respect for everyone, and treat them as human beings who do stupid stuff.
Absolutely awesome video Dr. K, you inspired me to start seeking help.
Thanks for uploading the "Interviews". They honestly feel more like a session to me.
I feel like in every talk with someone I can reflect something onto myself and I really like how you approach the different things.
Thanks for doing those talks even though I can most of the time only watch them here on TH-cam, I believe you are helping a lot of other people, not just the person you're speaking to :)
Dr K is so wholesome I love watching his content.
she is so brave to go on here despite the excessive hate she has gotten. to be open and authentic about your trauma and how it has affected you in your adult life is something not a lot of people are willing to confess or admit to. so so so proud of Katerino. i wish her the absolute best. good work Dr. K
Brah she probably made like 10k in Donos that night she not so so so brave, but I respect it
@@snapbrogman2368 my dude...she opend up about her sexual abuse that is fucking brave. Sure shes a shitty person, but opening up about that is so brave and I HATE her.
I have to ask, do you have trauma? That stuff is not easy to open up about even to a professional
@@snapbrogman2368 do you have any idea how hard it is to publicly admit that you were sexually abused as a child??? to thousands of people?
@@weebman2915 Hate is a strong emotion. Why do you feel hate for a complete stranger, who has never done you wrong, or even knows you exist? Seems like a waste of energy, that could be spent on something positive instead...
@@chihuahuainacone she is a liar and a cheat. Both of which I hate due to events of my personal life either it be directly affecting me or indirectly (no I have not been cheated on nor have i) and that's why. I know hate is a strong word, and that's why I project it in such a way
I really really appreciate your videos Dr. K I always learn so much, seriously thank you for uploading these... they help a TON!
By the end of the talk itself, I can't help but sense that her self-forgiveness and willingness to outwardly reject being a victim are themselves subtle forms of defensiveness. I'm for sure missing a lot of context, but she doesn't come across in the talk as someone who's really understood themselves and found peace; it sounds like she's really smart and knows what a good, level-headed person is supposed to project in these situations. It's like "I see myself as fundamentally good-to the point I'm angry if a friend suggests otherwise-and a good person doesn't play the victim, so I'll say that I'm at fault and not a victim, also I'll forgive myself for it."
I'm being a bit harsh in my assessment, but it's what came to mind while watching. I think she has the capacity to get where she says she is, I just wasn't convinced she's made it there yet.
This was incredibly touching
this has to be one of the best/most interesting session i've seen in awhile.
bruh why tf wasnt i tought about vaginismus in health class
@Jeff B "broken vaginas" lmao
Probably because some things are more important, dangerous and frequent that that one thing...
@Jeff B sure lets learn about every type of broken dick, too. beats learning about the fuckn quadratic formula
@@blew1t chances are, you'll learn more than you need to know about dicks and vaginas, by virtue of being on the internet.
On the other hand, if nobody forces the quadratic equation down your throat, you'll never even hear of it.
@@alfreddelatourquipenche8287 i dont think that holds true for every adolescent though, i feel like very few teens or whatever go into their sex life with the amount of info needed for it to be, uh, graceful. usually it's awkward. and i mean obviously the main point of sex ed is to teach kids about safe sex, but i think it could also help decrease awkwardness arising from sexual misinformation, or just lack of information, and i think that'd be especially helpful for people with vaginismus, because i'd imagine young men that aren't informed about that would be weirded out and it would just be a bad experience. maybe that sort of thing isn't worth spending much time on, but if there's gonna be sex ed lessons anyway, might as well briefly cover the bases of some common sexual conditions, because as kate said it's fairly common, some estimates say as many as 6% of women experience it
i've heard "disassociate" as a defense mechanism for trauma, is that the same as "depersonalize"?
Yes, she means disassociation
I mean they're slightly different. Disassociate is you kinda seperate from the situation you're in and everything happening, depersonalization is a step further in which you seperate from yourself. Your identity and your feelings stop being yours completely.
@@yourstruly5738 that definition coming in clutch
Depersonalisation is a sub category of dissociation. Dissociation is a broader term which branches off to different types of dissociation.
Nathan Carter what about derealization?
I feel very bad for Kate, something about this feel very bizarre. It seems like every answer she gives is completely untrue and that she is compulsively lying. Hard to watch her put her thoughts together when she cant keep track of them.
She's AWFUL at explaining her thoughts. Watching her say "ya know" 500 times, also watching her resort to saying depersonalization instead of just saying what she really wants to say. I feel there's a deeper reason inside her and that her "depersonalization" is just a cover up to the real reasons behind what she did.
I don't know if she's scared, if she's trying to hide something, if there's a really dark side to her she doesn't want people to know about. Who knows, but "vagina thing" and other ways she handles questions from Dr. K are really odd.