I think this kind of breakdown would be super useful for bs and fs flatground 360s. It takes so much control to bring the board around in sync with your body's rotation and I think it'd be helpful to see what points of the feet are controlling the board's rotation
Varial kickflip or kickflip varial as we used to call them was the first trick I had on lock. Even before shove its or ollies. And about the treflip, my problem was exactly as you said, too much force in the scoop/pop, when I learned them and started to relax and make them without putting so much effort they became "easier". Never thought about it though.
to any beginners watching this is why flicking down for the kickflip will kill your momentum in learning new tricks. If you flick out and think of all your tricks as linear for example don't think of jumping to the side to catch a pop shuv it start to think of how can I pop this while jumping forward. Completely changes your confidence level at attempting tricks once you understand this. (Update : went out after watching this vid and landed my first varial)
When I first started skating I didn't know to put my foot square on the tail, it was always off to one side slightly and so the board would turn 90 degrees when I ollied or tried to kickflip. This was early 2000's and we didn't have TH-cam, so I just leant into it, got it to spin 180 and all of a sudden I could varial flip. I then mastered them, but yet I still couldn't kickflip, and it always threw me off as a skater. I have a feeling this is probably why a lot of people say varials are easier, most of us simply didn't know the intricacies involved when first learning how to kickflip. Shortly after that, I learnt how to heelflip! Still having no clue why I couldn't kickflip lol. It wasn't until one of my skate buddies who had the internet before we did showed us some early skate websites which taught you how to do tricks, and as soon as I realised my back foot was in the wrong place, the board was all of a sudden straightened out and I was landing them in no time!
I remember a good friend of my learned varial flips before kickflips and learned varial heels before heelflip. I think he was being illogical, but this video made me realize I was the illogical one.
I honestly don't know if it should be or not, but it was to me. we all know those who learn heelflips first, right? I was one of them. actually that's an interesting topic to think about...
@@whythetrick i just think because you mentioned that the legs are more comfortable to move to the inside than to the outside. For me personally heelflip is easier than kickflip, i still struggle with kickflips sometimes
The only reason it isn't easier to me is bc I can see the board better with kickflips. With heelflips, your vision, or at least mine, is obscured. What's weird is, even though heelflips are harder for me, backside tricks are easier for me for some reason. I learned backside 180 before front side, but I guess bc I ride regular and when I was first learning basics, kickturns to my right, which is going backside always felt easier then kickturns to my left which is front side. So with heelflips the sight of my board is obscured and I DNT like that, but backside 180s make my entire landing vision obscured and I'm ok with it.
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I think this kind of breakdown would be super useful for bs and fs flatground 360s. It takes so much control to bring the board around in sync with your body's rotation and I think it'd be helpful to see what points of the feet are controlling the board's rotation
Varial kickflip or kickflip varial as we used to call them was the first trick I had on lock. Even before shove its or ollies. And about the treflip, my problem was exactly as you said, too much force in the scoop/pop, when I learned them and started to relax and make them without putting so much effort they became "easier". Never thought about it though.
to any beginners watching this is why flicking down for the kickflip will kill your momentum in learning new tricks. If you flick out and think of all your tricks as linear for example don't think of jumping to the side to catch a pop shuv it start to think of how can I pop this while jumping forward. Completely changes your confidence level at attempting tricks once you understand this. (Update : went out after watching this vid and landed my first varial)
When I first started skating I didn't know to put my foot square on the tail, it was always off to one side slightly and so the board would turn 90 degrees when I ollied or tried to kickflip. This was early 2000's and we didn't have TH-cam, so I just leant into it, got it to spin 180 and all of a sudden I could varial flip. I then mastered them, but yet I still couldn't kickflip, and it always threw me off as a skater. I have a feeling this is probably why a lot of people say varials are easier, most of us simply didn't know the intricacies involved when first learning how to kickflip. Shortly after that, I learnt how to heelflip! Still having no clue why I couldn't kickflip lol. It wasn't until one of my skate buddies who had the internet before we did showed us some early skate websites which taught you how to do tricks, and as soon as I realised my back foot was in the wrong place, the board was all of a sudden straightened out and I was landing them in no time!
So glad to see a new video from this channel. Love the work you put into these vids, keep it up!
I remember a good friend of my learned varial flips before kickflips and learned varial heels before heelflip. I think he was being illogical, but this video made me realize I was the illogical one.
Idk if you've done a video for hardflips, but if not, that'd be a cool video. Hardflip is my favorite trick.
Amazing, I love your videos
do you think it's relevant that the surface area in the way of your flicking foot is lower in a varial flip than a kickflip?
hmm. perhaps. let's see it next time.
You have really good varial flip
What trucks you have on ur board?
Tensor mag lights. Putting aside whether it’s good or not, it’s incredibly light.
I think varial flips are harder than kickflips but tre flips are the easiest of all the kickflip variations
so should heelflip be easier than Kickflip?
I honestly don't know if it should be or not, but it was to me.
we all know those who learn heelflips first, right? I was one of them. actually that's an interesting topic to think about...
@@whythetrick i just think because you mentioned that the legs are more comfortable to move to the inside than to the outside.
For me personally heelflip is easier than kickflip, i still struggle with kickflips sometimes
The only reason it isn't easier to me is bc I can see the board better with kickflips. With heelflips, your vision, or at least mine, is obscured. What's weird is, even though heelflips are harder for me, backside tricks are easier for me for some reason. I learned backside 180 before front side, but I guess bc I ride regular and when I was first learning basics, kickturns to my right, which is going backside always felt easier then kickturns to my left which is front side. So with heelflips the sight of my board is obscured and I DNT like that, but backside 180s make my entire landing vision obscured and I'm ok with it.
If varial flips are easier why is a nightmare flip so hard
Because it’s a nightmare?
@@whythetrick 😐