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Quite the “V/A”.. thanks for the look see Trogs!! 2022 has been a great party so far on this Channel!! Oh..by the by..in a live band situation the Epi JB 62’ 335 has been top tier AWESOME!! Thanks again!!
I'm gonna guess you re"installed" the bigsby wrong. If you don't know how to tighten them properly, it leads to tuning stability problems. One of the common causes of Bigbsy, problems is becuase users over tighten them.
@@popeye089 I concur. A quick visit to the Bigsby Website, under the "Support" heading list several important steps required to prevent tuning stability issues. One of the main steps is that when installing new strings each string needs to be crimped at a 45-degree angle next to the ball end. Failure to follow this one step is enough to cause tuning issues. All that needed to be done is check the manufactures website. I really doubt the builder or owner of a new $55,000 guitar would tolerate such issues. Like I said, the Bigsby website has got to be the last word on all things Bigsby. Just my $.02 Cents.
Like Randy Rhoads said when a student was afraid to handle his guitar because he might scratch it, “you can either be a guitar player and put your own wear on it from practicing hard, or you can hang it on the wall”. We have ourselves a wall hanger that won’t stay in tune for only 55,000. 🤭
Read a fun fact: in the early days of electric guitars it was the opposite. Everyone was desperate to keep their guitars perfect, so much so that Fender switched to Rosewood fretboards because “the maple gets dirty”!
Yep. If you look at Randy's '74 Custom, it is scratched to shit, with stains on it even. That guitar was his favorite and look how much wear he put on it in 7 or 8 years of use
I'm into the guitar world and in the sword world. Wall hangers are exactly the opposite in the sword world. They are the cheap non-functional swords. In the guitar world they are usually very functional and expensive, like a true vintage burst.
I completely agree to me it just looks like he scuffed up a korina v slapped his name on and stuck some dark pickups on it it and they slapped a eye watering price on it I appreciate the review tho
Obviously if you don’t have that much money then yeah but you’re not paying that much for just a guitar, it’s the same concept as someone buying a super expensive painting
Normally don’t complain about prices of guitars but this is stupid. You could buy 5 or 6 of Gibson Customs higher priced guitars for that. Can’t imagine these holding value. I get the collector aspect but some people have too much money and not enough brains.
The owner allowing you to review this is appreciated! Not a relic fan but enjoy learning about these special guitars. Way overpriced but should retain it's value.
Way overpriced is an understatement I own many high priced guitars and basses . I would not pay 1500 for that garbage because it's absurd. I Love Gibson guitars but I'm starting to see why so many people hate this Company,
This is why i usually dont use any cases that have a brand name in huge letters. ;-) I also use TKL flight cases so its not easy to pickup and just walk away with the guitar. Also wherever your playing say hello to the door guy and make sure he remembers you. Ive seen a many door guys save a potential guitar being stolen. I still tend to never take my eyes off my gear.
As usual Gibson is selling guitars where 95% of the cost is just so you can say you own one. Unless this thing somehow extends your life by a few decades it's not worth a penny over $3,000... and that's being generous.
Nah . C'mon be honest 35k plus . No fkn way . That's not really unfair to say he ruined it by sending a waaay over priced guitar back because there was no market . ... Sorry Trogily, but I can't even make it thru the whole vid..pretentious guitars aren't my thing .
Good for you. Sometimes I don’t watch these videos all the way through. I mean… I should be writing or practicing or doing something related to my mission. These are a guilty pleasure but they don’t make me a better guitar player.
$55k and it can't keep in tune , man I'd be one sad camper. Granted it may need a break in period for the bigsby , but bigsby's are notorious for not keeping in tune; then you go and mount it in the weirdest way possible. Move the decimal and make the first five (5) a four (4) and that would make sense.
To me, a relic job is like a teenage girl buying jeans that are already ripped up, and have holes in them. As a former touring guitarist for some large acts I believe that you need to earn those dings, dents, and finish checking instead of pretending that you were on the road.JMHO. And for that money.. a bigsby that won't stay in tune, and a pup that sounds like gack..wow...🤘
Yet you happily bought faded Jeans new, probably stone washed, you weren't going on stage with brand new dark blue indigo cardboard stiff jeans, in fact I bet you even washed jeans 10 times before wearing them, maybe a bit if bleach in the wash.... come on....truth now😁
@@hughjarrse Wow, what's your problem? You couldn't just create your own comment saying that you are a fan of relics instead of attacking someone for their opinion. The internet might not be your thing bud..🙄
I was actually pointing out that he was deriding girls for wearing jeans bought with holes already in them and equating it with reliced guitars, he has undoubtedly brought pre washed faded jeans, as have you, and it's simply because they look "cooler" I'm not quite sure why you felt the need to rush to Spikes defense by replying to my comment, especially as you're berating me for replying to a comment that you hadn't posted. Certain things are just intrinsically cool, a worn in leather jacket, faded soft Jean's and a beat up guitar, to name just a few
I think everyone is missing the point. I remember being back in High School, and I remember how great those girls looked in their pre-work/faded jeans. Just saying..................
@@hughjarrse How the fuck do you know what someone is doing with their clothes? Are you sneaking into the guys house to go thru his wardrobe, Liberace?
We have all heard of Bigsby vibratos. You should do a video on the history of Paul Bigsby's Electric Guitars. It might be interesting. Have a good day.
That would be very interesting. Paul Bigsby and Leo Fender knew each other fairly well (so I've read). It isn't by chance that the Fender headstock resembles the shape used on the early Bigsby guitars.
That case suede leather and piping was already explored by Paul Reed Smith. My Modern Eagle II came in one of these. Fortunately, it doesn't scuff too bad if you pay a bit of attention. 👍
That only affects shops, if you have $55-85k to spend on a guitar, and let's face it, it won't be your only $55-85k guitar, the value going up or down isn't going to bother you much
@@cataclysmicconverter it's like Fendy charging $2,000 for a jumper (sweater) we think only loony's would pay that, but obviously plenty of people pay it
I love this type of Flying A (Flying V) Guitar and I really love the metal pick gard with the skull nobs and that single pickup. To me the dark sound from his own custom bucker sounds awesome to me imo. I love with the Bigsby and that dark Brazilian rosewood.
Thorough review. If I laid down this kind of coin for an axe that won't tune, hell to pay. The bit about shipping in an Epiphone box, good chuckles!! 🤣
Would love to see an “x out of 10” type rating at the end of your videos. Just like a Trogly’s overall rating of the guitars you review. Your opinion is highly valued!!
I gig regularly, am in five different bands. I play instruments from all ages and none of them look like or ever will look like most of these nonsense relic guitars. I'm playing a 1939 lap steel that looks mint. I'm playing a 1969 Gibson SG it looks like it has moderate normal play wear. I'm playing a Les Paul copy from the 80s that looks great and I've got newer guitars also. I take care of them. I wiped them off and I don't bang them around or knock them over. For fuck sake.
I've a 1986 Les Paul Custom that is worn almost as much as this Flying V! I also wipe my guitars down and keep them in the cases, stuff just happens when you're flailing around!
Really like the look of it, but wouldn’t those holes in the output jack plate lead to more dust getting in there and clogging up the jack and pots and whatnot? Hmm.
Yeah, hughjarrse is correct. If a working musician were to use that guitar for regular performances most likely moisture and dust would get in there and wreak havoc on the contacts.
Unless original 58 Les Paul's and Vs or 54 Teles and 61 strats become available at a price the working man can afford (not going to happen) I think it's highly unlikely relics are going anywhere, you may not like them, but sales suggest millions do
@@hughjarrsemy question is, damage to a new guitar decreases it's value. It doesn't with a relic, i would guess. At what point does that even out and the damage jist now equates to reliced?
@@_oe_o_e_ Well I'm a working man and have a few custom shop (Fender) relics, but being lefty Gibson aged guitars are not really available, apart from a very few Murphy labs and not many make it over to England 😕
@@halcooper3070 because as I'm sure you've experienced the first ding on your new guitar is heartbreaking, you don't get that with a pre aged guitar, I have some Fender custom shop relics, that doesn't mean I want a chunk out of my PRS custom 22 10 top, they're different guitars and serve different purposes, if Eddie had used a battered PRS you can bet your bottom dollar PRS would be selling relics (no matter what Paul might tell you) and people would be buying them
I knew guitarists in other bands who would carry their Gibson Les Pauls to the gig in an Epiphone case. I could only afford Epiphones so it was by default! 😂
Metal inlays would probably make sanding the radius into the fretboard a huge pain in the ass. And did you notice the lack of tooling marks on the fretboard? It's a dead giveaway that Gibson did not do the finish work on this guitar. It would be great if Gibson gave two shits about quality control. I am not convinced they are even familiar with the concept.
+1 about the metal inlays and sanding issues. As for the lack of tool marks on the fingerboard, most of those marks on a Gibson are specifically from filing the fret nibs into the binding. This guitar's neck is unbound, so there would likely be no finishing filing other than dressing the fret ends.
@@hkguitar1984 I didn't think about the binding/nibs. Maybe Gibson should just do away with fret nibs since they can't seem to finish them properly without chewing up the board. I have never been a fan of the nibs anyway.
@@jondough76 I agree with you. I think its just a Gibson tradition. IMHO, they should only offer the fret nibs on Historics and Re-Issues. That is just my $.02 Cents. That said, I've a 1986 Les Paul Custom with almost 40 years of regular playing wear. The fingerboard binding still looks great, however, due to the binding the edge of the fingerboard lacks the rolled edge/worn-in feel of my older Fender guitars. If I were to custom order a Les Paul (Standard or Custom) I'd omit the fingerboard binding and request the edges rolled over. Again, another $.02 Cents from me!
Not a big Flying V fan, hate relics & Bigsby's. However, I always watch your shows to see what's inside a guitar. For me I wouldn't pay anything for relics/aging. If I'm buying a new guitar I want it to be NEW! No scratches, no aging, etc. JMO
09:37 - Hey Austin, you mentioned that the bridge on this guitar is an ABR-1 with a wire retainer, but there doesn’t appear to be a wire, or the holes drilled into the bridge where the wire would be installed. Can you please explain where the wire is on this bridge, or were your comments in the video incorrect?
Austin I mean this in the kindest way, run a vacuum over your setup table, then spray some windex on a paper towel and give it a good rub down. That close up of the screws made me squirm lol.
Just from setting intonation, my strings have little dents from the old saddle position, no way those saddles should be paired with a tremolo, it will never stay in tune.
I guess there is a market for this type of thing, but forget the whole debate about if you like a relic or not. I think the main problem here is a guitar that costs $55,000 that doesn't stay in tune or sound good. I just played a new 70's re issue that was like $2,500 and it played and sounded great. If you really wanted to go all out there's the Custom Shop Vs for like 5 grand, and the Korinas for like 10k. All better options if you ask me.
Price is crazy but as relics go, that is a nicely created beasty. Move the decimal point so its 5.5k and I would be tempted, but I also appreciate the amount of time and craft that go into creating an art piece like that so I'm just pleased to get to see a Trogly teardown 😎
Right… I mean I always say how much I hate relic jobs. But this guitar has a cool vibe to it. I mean, if I had the money maybe I would pay a guy $2000 to do this to my guitar. Or I could just do it myself… The trickiest thing is just having a metal shop make a new pickguard for you. Anyway… But the point is that it’s an art piece and yada yada yada, and since you’re done, paying for medical school… You have plenty of disposable income.
Great breakdown & demo, Austin...I'm not a big fan of flying Vs so forgive me...Definitely an ultra, heavy-aged axe. IMO, the edges are worn too much. This would be a guitar that the owner gave ZERO care: never cleaned it, stepped on it, did Jimi Hendrix/SRV 'floor routines' when they played 'Third Stone from the Sun'...I agree this is only worth about 10 grand due to not staying in tune.
Yeah, I'm not into relic guitars unless I'm the one doing it to the guitar. Why pay that much money for something that looks like shit. I have 23 years old and 19 years old guitars I owned since day one not in this bad of shape. That's just me. I guess I feel that way because I learned ona piece of shit while everyone around me had nice guitars. By the time I was able to save up and get a real nice guitar, I didn't want something that looked old like someone tossed it in a garbage can. But to each their own I guess.
I personally find the concept interesting. It looks like what someone would make in the post apocalypse. Like imagine the world ended just before the invention of the floating tremolo bridge system or the Floyd rose bridge, and a wasteland bard wanted a trem on a V guitar. This is what I’d imagine. Although I’d rather make something like that myself than pay 55K for it
Interesting guitar. The Bigsby mounting bar itself looks a bit "phoned in" to me. A plain gauge steel strip. Could have been a bit more substantial and interesting.
It might be "a Gibson", but it looks like something you'd find at a pawn shop in Oklahoma. This price point for a person I've never heard of makes it extra hilarious.
BRO! You need to learn what a Luthiers Knot is at the tuning peg and once stretched out your strings won't detune unless there's is a nut or saddle hang-up.
Looks like the "wear" has had burnt umber rubbed into the grain then stripped off with a solvent. An old furniture aging trick but can be very effective if done right.
I built a parts caster for under $800 and it stays in tune perfect. And I'm not a guitar builder. So it's crazy that one of the oldest, most expensive and world renowned guitar builders can't get it right for $55k
Hi trogly… Great guitar… I’ve noticed your having trouble with tuning on this one , it’s the nut is sticking Pretty sure . Radio shack has what’s called synthetic lube One drop on the slot of each string will allow the strings to slide properly over the nut stop friction from sticking and allow the guitar to stay in tune for a while usually it will last the life of the string 2/3 months…try it you’ll like it lis worked for me gigging for many years I use it in app my guitars 🎸 Peace bro great show lone time fan ….
I’m reminded how my generation of players played the cheap gibsons. Kinda weird thinking i’d never be able to afford a cheap gibson cause they’ll want to make these instead.
Honestly the ageing on all of these looks terrible. Not at all like genuine time-and-wear ageing would look. I doubt there's an original V on the planet that even has that much age related wear and tear on it. It's just so totally overdone. It looks like someone dragged it behind his vehicle when he went off-roading in a plowed corn field.
I just do not understand this fashion thing of the aging... my guitar is new but seems to be not... it is ridicolous... is like giving a fake medal of honour to the people who has the money to buy it... the medal of honour must be earned on the field not bought
1) Big like for the "first fret neck depth" t-shirt. Funny thing, I always skip that part, but the shirt is very cool! 🙂 2) The "skull" knobs look more like Darth Vader to me 😛
The rubber leg grip is unnecessary anyway, if you're upset because you can't play your flying V sitting down, you need to consider if you bought the right guitar for you.
I play sitting down a lot do to a motorcycle accident so a V is about the toughest for me. I can play them like a goober. As for as relived guitars it is done very well, they are just not my thing. I don’t mind old used guitars, I just don’t like the idea of faking one.
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Jamming some Lonnie Mack tunes, great job Austin.
Cool guitar, great review, Thank You
Quite the “V/A”.. thanks for the look see Trogs!! 2022 has been a great party so far on this Channel!! Oh..by the by..in a live band situation the Epi JB 62’ 335 has been top tier AWESOME!! Thanks again!!
I'm gonna guess you re"installed" the bigsby wrong. If you don't know how to tighten them properly, it leads to tuning stability problems. One of the common causes of Bigbsy, problems is becuase users over tighten them.
@@popeye089 I concur. A quick visit to the Bigsby Website, under the "Support" heading list several important steps required to prevent tuning stability issues.
One of the main steps is that when installing new strings each string needs to be crimped at a 45-degree angle next to the ball end. Failure to follow this one step is enough to cause tuning issues.
All that needed to be done is check the manufactures website.
I really doubt the builder or owner of a new $55,000 guitar would tolerate such issues. Like I said, the Bigsby website has got to be the last word on all things Bigsby.
Just my $.02 Cents.
Like Randy Rhoads said when a student was afraid to handle his guitar because he might scratch it, “you can either be a guitar player and put your own wear on it from practicing hard, or you can hang it on the wall”.
We have ourselves a wall hanger that won’t stay in tune for only 55,000. 🤭
Read a fun fact: in the early days of electric guitars it was the opposite. Everyone was desperate to keep their guitars perfect, so much so that Fender switched to Rosewood fretboards because “the maple gets dirty”!
Yep. If you look at Randy's '74 Custom, it is scratched to shit, with stains on it even. That guitar was his favorite and look how much wear he put on it in 7 or 8 years of use
A Jonesy... Wow I never heard that! So cool! Randy Rhoads is one of my favorite rock/metal players, God bless you Randy!
If it ain't Live , It's Jive!. If the roadmap on it ain't real ,you,re Nowhere,. Poser. Over priced and, Overrated!
I'm into the guitar world and in the sword world. Wall hangers are exactly the opposite in the sword world. They are the cheap non-functional swords. In the guitar world they are usually very functional and expensive, like a true vintage burst.
Staying in tune isn't important, it won't matter once it gets bought by a dentist🤣
Roasted
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Dentists don't buy $55k guitars.
@@jski718 A doctor might, they're the opposite of a dentist
I just paid one over 2K for a tooth crown. So yes, that’s under 25 crowns.
$5500 maybe. 55K is a joke for that.
I completely agree to me it just looks like he scuffed up a korina v slapped his name on and stuck some dark pickups on it it and they slapped a eye watering price on it I appreciate the review tho
Wouldn’t pay $550 if it won’t stay in tune. Useless.
Fact
Obviously if you don’t have that much money then yeah but you’re not paying that much for just a guitar, it’s the same concept as someone buying a super expensive painting
Normally don’t complain about prices of guitars but this is stupid. You could buy 5 or 6 of Gibson Customs higher priced guitars for that. Can’t imagine these holding value. I get the collector aspect but some people have too much money and not enough brains.
The owner allowing you to review this is appreciated! Not a relic fan but enjoy learning about these special guitars. Way overpriced but should retain it's value.
It will never retain its value because it’s not an original.
Way overpriced is an understatement I own many high priced guitars and basses . I would not pay 1500 for that garbage because it's absurd. I Love Gibson guitars but I'm starting to see why so many people hate this Company,
I wish I had this kind of social skills to do ridiculous stuff and ask for insane prices.
A good way to stop your guitar getting stolen on tour is to keep it in a bass case 😉
LOL, or hide it in with the Drums!
Or play a Squier Bullet.
@@rexrathtar3893👍
This is why i usually dont use any cases that have a brand name in huge letters. ;-) I also use TKL flight cases so its not easy to pickup and just walk away with the guitar. Also wherever your playing say hello to the door guy and make sure he remembers you. Ive seen a many door guys save a potential guitar being stolen. I still tend to never take my eyes off my gear.
@@ctcards2636 well I'm left handed, as long as my guitar is on show, I'm safe 😁
That price is eye watering. I think it's ugly but to each their own.
It looks like a "Ridiculous Reverb Listing" to me.
Use an Epiphone box…or just buy an Epiphone and put $54,000 in the bank. Cause believe me, 55 grand won’t make you any better!
As usual Gibson is selling guitars where 95% of the cost is just so you can say you own one. Unless this thing somehow extends your life by a few decades it's not worth a penny over $3,000... and that's being generous.
Nah . C'mon be honest 35k plus . No fkn way .
That's not really unfair to say he ruined it by sending a waaay over priced guitar back because there was no market . ...
Sorry Trogily, but I can't even make it thru the whole vid..pretentious guitars aren't my thing .
Good for you. Sometimes I don’t watch these videos all the way through. I mean… I should be writing or practicing or doing something related to my mission. These are a guilty pleasure but they don’t make me a better guitar player.
@@JohnnyArtPavlou Very Well Said.
We get it you’re poor
It looks like something Johnny Depp would play
Great video as ever! I really dont get it though Id rather have a brand new V for £2k 😀
$55k and it can't keep in tune , man I'd be one sad camper. Granted it may need a break in period for the bigsby , but bigsby's are notorious for not keeping in tune; then you go and mount it in the weirdest way possible. Move the decimal and make the first five (5) a four (4) and that would make sense.
Shoulda been named the “PT Barnum” model.
Except the guy's with $55k to splash on a guitar are unlikely to be fools
Hahaha. Nice.
To me, a relic job is like a teenage girl buying jeans that are already ripped up, and have holes in them. As a former touring guitarist for some large acts I believe that you need to earn those dings, dents, and finish checking instead of pretending that you were on the road.JMHO. And for that money.. a bigsby that won't stay in tune, and a pup that sounds like gack..wow...🤘
Yet you happily bought faded Jeans new, probably stone washed, you weren't going on stage with brand new dark blue indigo cardboard stiff jeans, in fact I bet you even washed jeans 10 times before wearing them, maybe a bit if bleach in the wash.... come on....truth now😁
@@hughjarrse Wow, what's your problem? You couldn't just create your own comment saying that you are a fan of relics instead of attacking someone for their opinion. The internet might not be your thing bud..🙄
I was actually pointing out that he was deriding girls for wearing jeans bought with holes already in them and equating it with reliced guitars, he has undoubtedly brought pre washed faded jeans, as have you, and it's simply because they look "cooler"
I'm not quite sure why you felt the need to rush to Spikes defense by replying to my comment, especially as you're berating me for replying to a comment that you hadn't posted. Certain things are just intrinsically cool, a worn in leather jacket, faded soft Jean's and a beat up guitar, to name just a few
I think everyone is missing the point.
I remember being back in High School, and I remember how great those girls looked in their pre-work/faded jeans.
Just saying..................
@@hughjarrse How the fuck do you know what someone is doing with their clothes? Are you sneaking into the guys house to go thru his wardrobe, Liberace?
We have all heard of Bigsby vibratos. You should do a video on the history of Paul Bigsby's Electric Guitars. It might be interesting. Have a good day.
That would be very interesting. Paul Bigsby and Leo Fender knew each other fairly well (so I've read).
It isn't by chance that the Fender headstock resembles the shape used on the early Bigsby guitars.
That case suede leather and piping was already explored by Paul Reed Smith. My Modern Eagle II came in one of these. Fortunately, it doesn't scuff too bad if you pay a bit of attention. 👍
My prediction is the value on this things will bottom out and tank. As indeed they should.
That only affects shops, if you have $55-85k to spend on a guitar, and let's face it, it won't be your only $55-85k guitar, the value going up or down isn't going to bother you much
@@cataclysmicconverter it's like Fendy charging $2,000 for a jumper (sweater) we think only loony's would pay that, but obviously plenty of people pay it
@@hughjarrse I always wanted one of Fender's Tweed Briefcases! (I'm not a sweater guy).
@@hkguitar1984 you could always keep iin the briefcase just in case it turns chilly
@@hughjarrse LOL
I love this type of Flying A (Flying V) Guitar and I really love the metal pick gard with the skull nobs and that single pickup. To me the dark sound from his own custom bucker sounds awesome to me imo. I love with the Bigsby and that dark Brazilian rosewood.
I've got one, $ 25 + Priority Shipping.
Set up for 1 humbucker.
That output jack needs a little low power LED light that turns on when you plug in. 🤟🏻
Thorough review. If I laid down this kind of coin for an axe that won't tune, hell to pay. The bit about shipping in an Epiphone box, good chuckles!! 🤣
For that much $, it should have an original PAF 🤷♂️
When they won’t stay in tune like that, check the nut. If you end up thinking it’s not the nut, you can check a few other things. Then fix the nut. 😂
Would love to see an “x out of 10” type rating at the end of your videos. Just like a Trogly’s overall rating of the guitars you review. Your opinion is highly valued!!
I have a '59 Flying V Mahogany Reissue w/ factory Bigsby from the Mod Shop........it's my fravorite guitar
$55.000? Well throw me down the stairs my bowling ball! 🤣
Nothing like beating up a cool guitar and charging an arm and a leg for it.
I gig regularly, am in five different bands. I play instruments from all ages and none of them look like or ever will look like most of these nonsense relic guitars. I'm playing a 1939 lap steel that looks mint. I'm playing a 1969 Gibson SG it looks like it has moderate normal play wear. I'm playing a Les Paul copy from the 80s that looks great and I've got newer guitars also. I take care of them. I wiped them off and I don't bang them around or knock them over. For fuck sake.
Yeah, but taking care of your guitar and wiping it down every night isn't rock'n'roll is it? Have you seen Keefs, Rory's and Stevie's
I've a 1986 Les Paul Custom that is worn almost as much as this Flying V!
I also wipe my guitars down and keep them in the cases, stuff just happens when you're flailing around!
@@hughjarrseNot rock'n'roll....just disgusting.....🤮
That overdriven tone was really nice, was that just the Bluesbreaker of some pedal in front as well?
Nothing like paying 55k for a guitar relic-ed to make it look 60 years old to keep it at home in "mint" condition
Really like the look of it, but wouldn’t those holes in the output jack plate lead to more dust getting in there and clogging up the jack and pots and whatnot? Hmm.
Not in the room that guitar is going to hang in
Yeah, hughjarrse is correct. If a working musician were to use that guitar for regular performances most likely moisture and dust would get in there and wreak havoc on the contacts.
So....when's that museum open?
I think it's possible and it is my wish that relic guitars value will just tank like hell in the future.
Unless original 58 Les Paul's and Vs or 54 Teles and 61 strats become available at a price the working man can afford (not going to happen) I think it's highly unlikely relics are going anywhere, you may not like them, but sales suggest millions do
@@hughjarrsethey cant afford those either tho
@@hughjarrsemy question is, damage to a new guitar decreases it's value. It doesn't with a relic, i would guess. At what point does that even out and the damage jist now equates to reliced?
@@_oe_o_e_ Well I'm a working man and have a few custom shop (Fender) relics, but being lefty Gibson aged guitars are not really available, apart from a very few Murphy labs and not many make it over to England 😕
@@halcooper3070 because as I'm sure you've experienced the first ding on your new guitar is heartbreaking, you don't get that with a pre aged guitar, I have some Fender custom shop relics, that doesn't mean I want a chunk out of my PRS custom 22 10 top, they're different guitars and serve different purposes, if Eddie had used a battered PRS you can bet your bottom dollar PRS would be selling relics (no matter what Paul might tell you) and people would be buying them
I'm glad it exists for other people but I would neither buy nor play that for $500 let alone $55,000 good god how ugly
Yeah, Well…looks like I’ll be hanging on to my Epi JB “Amos” Flying V …forever..$55k for that Gibby..Never Neverland again guitar!!
I knew guitarists in other bands who would carry their Gibson Les Pauls to the gig in an Epiphone case. I could only afford Epiphones so it was by default! 😂
Great to see, thanks for the review - and to your vieweer for making it happen, beautiful guitar
Fascinating guitar. I’ve never seen that model before. It kinda reminds me of EVH’s Shark guitar that has the turnbuckles between the V shape.
Metal inlays would probably make sanding the radius into the fretboard a huge pain in the ass. And did you notice the lack of tooling marks on the fretboard? It's a dead giveaway that Gibson did not do the finish work on this guitar. It would be great if Gibson gave two shits about quality control. I am not convinced they are even familiar with the concept.
+1 about the metal inlays and sanding issues.
As for the lack of tool marks on the fingerboard, most of those marks on a Gibson are specifically from filing the fret nibs into the binding.
This guitar's neck is unbound, so there would likely be no finishing filing other than dressing the fret ends.
@@hkguitar1984 I didn't think about the binding/nibs. Maybe Gibson should just do away with fret nibs since they can't seem to finish them properly without chewing up the board. I have never been a fan of the nibs anyway.
@@jondough76 I agree with you. I think its just a Gibson tradition. IMHO, they should only offer the fret nibs on Historics and Re-Issues. That is just my $.02 Cents.
That said, I've a 1986 Les Paul Custom with almost 40 years of regular playing wear. The fingerboard binding still looks great, however, due to the binding the edge of the fingerboard lacks the rolled edge/worn-in feel of my older Fender guitars. If I were to custom order a Les Paul (Standard or Custom) I'd omit the fingerboard binding and request the edges rolled over.
Again, another $.02 Cents from me!
On display inside Glass case, at a McMansion.
Not a big Flying V fan, hate relics & Bigsby's. However, I always watch your shows to see what's inside a guitar. For me I wouldn't pay anything for relics/aging. If I'm buying a new guitar I want it to be NEW! No scratches, no aging, etc. JMO
Love your show Trogs!👍
This overpriced morphed Gibson guitar, not so much. Just my opinion.
I would happily pay $15k for one, if I had a few million, I would have no problem paying the asking price.
I just want to buy those knobs and put them on my LP, they're awesome!
4k each. 😉
09:37 - Hey Austin, you mentioned that the bridge on this guitar is an ABR-1 with a wire retainer, but there doesn’t appear to be a wire, or the holes drilled into the bridge where the wire would be installed. Can you please explain where the wire is on this bridge, or were your comments in the video incorrect?
That pro tip is a great idea
...yah except now everyone on youtube knows it so it won't work anymore?
@@jimmyjames2022 Hopefully the odds of a 20K Gibson being in an Epiphone box are too low to be worth risking your job over lol might be 1 in 500
@@radfury23g32I bought a maton bb1200 and it showed up in a f'ing es335 box giant Gibson logo I was so glad it was at my door and not stolen
Thought it sounded great! Not much of a relic job fan, but this was done well.
That pro tip is great. When I got my beloved custom paint LP Custom, they shipped it in the box for a Tokai. Legendary move by my buddy there
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I like how they include picks and a strap, as if the customer base for this would ever pick it up off their wall hangar lol
Austin I mean this in the kindest way, run a vacuum over your setup table, then spray some windex on a paper towel and give it a good rub down. That close up of the screws made me squirm lol.
How do you fix the weight distribution on a V? slap a bigbsy on it. *edit (what tuning)
Just from setting intonation, my strings have little dents from the old saddle position, no way those saddles should be paired with a tremolo, it will never stay in tune.
Leo is the best guy out there, I was so happy when they partned up! Can't wait until they do domething richard fortus
By the way, you should really check out the guitars he makes, specially the ones he's made for richard fortus
I guess there is a market for this type of thing, but forget the whole debate about if you like a relic or not. I think the main problem here is a guitar that costs $55,000 that doesn't stay in tune or sound good. I just played a new 70's re issue that was like $2,500 and it played and sounded great. If you really wanted to go all out there's the Custom Shop Vs for like 5 grand, and the Korinas for like 10k. All better options if you ask me.
You can not duplicate real age!
You can't duplicate real breasts, but that doesn't stop people pay big bucks for a passable facsimile 🙂
@@hughjarrse you have a point!
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Gibson prices are absurd I'll give you 5 k period!!!
That bigsby sounds great
Price is crazy but as relics go, that is a nicely created beasty. Move the decimal point so its 5.5k and I would be tempted, but I also appreciate the amount of time and craft that go into creating an art piece like that so I'm just pleased to get to see a Trogly teardown 😎
Right… I mean I always say how much I hate relic jobs. But this guitar has a cool vibe to it. I mean, if I had the money maybe I would pay a guy $2000 to do this to my guitar. Or I could just do it myself… The trickiest thing is just having a metal shop make a new pickguard for you. Anyway… But the point is that it’s an art piece and yada yada yada, and since you’re done, paying for medical school… You have plenty of disposable income.
@@JohnnyArtPavlou Haha yes, I could see House MD rocking this in his office 😂
Not only brass pickguard screws. Bridge saddles and screws look like brass too, it would explain why heavier than normal.
What's that music playing at 6:15 seconds in? It's a Spooky Blues you can hear in the background.
Great breakdown & demo, Austin...I'm not a big fan of flying Vs so forgive me...Definitely an ultra, heavy-aged axe. IMO, the edges are worn too much. This would be a guitar that the owner gave ZERO care: never cleaned it, stepped on it, did Jimi Hendrix/SRV 'floor routines' when they played 'Third Stone from the Sun'...I agree this is only worth about 10 grand due to not staying in tune.
No blacklight?
Really curious how this aging looks.
Cheers
love that this custom doesn't stay in tune and gunks up your fingers.
Really enjoyed the Chuck Berry Trog
Looks great but sounds meh. I'd rather have a cheep guitar that sounds great.
Yeah, I'm not into relic guitars unless I'm the one doing it to the guitar. Why pay that much money for something that looks like shit. I have 23 years old and 19 years old guitars I owned since day one not in this bad of shape. That's just me. I guess I feel that way because I learned ona piece of shit while everyone around me had nice guitars. By the time I was able to save up and get a real nice guitar, I didn't want something that looked old like someone tossed it in a garbage can. But to each their own I guess.
I personally find the concept interesting. It looks like what someone would make in the post apocalypse. Like imagine the world ended just before the invention of the floating tremolo bridge system or the Floyd rose bridge, and a wasteland bard wanted a trem on a V guitar. This is what I’d imagine.
Although I’d rather make something like that myself than pay 55K for it
Interesting guitar. The Bigsby mounting bar itself looks a bit "phoned in" to me. A plain gauge steel strip. Could have been a bit more substantial and interesting.
It might be "a Gibson", but it looks like something you'd find at a pawn shop in Oklahoma. This price point for a person I've never heard of makes it extra hilarious.
G have been making all sorts of interesting high end stuff these last two years.......good on 'em, love their work. Cheers Trogly!!
I really dig Leo's style of aging. Not something I'd drop 55k on, but I'm a fan.
So,how do you know if your guitar got damaged in shipping?
Presume the husks were selected from the wood stage rather than from existing blank bodies ????
BRO! You need to learn what a Luthiers Knot is at the tuning peg and once stretched out your strings won't detune unless there's is a nut or saddle hang-up.
Flying A? I first thought that it was a Chibson USA meme tbh
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Looks like the "wear" has had burnt umber rubbed into the grain then stripped off with a solvent. An old furniture aging trick but can be very effective if done right.
It's a great demo, but why would having the Bigsby be prioritized over having the neck pickup and the available controls?
I built a parts caster for under $800 and it stays in tune perfect. And I'm not a guitar builder. So it's crazy that one of the oldest, most expensive and world renowned guitar builders can't get it right for $55k
I won’t yuk someone’s yum, but that’s a marmite guitar. Those skull knobs are tacky.
Hi trogly…
Great guitar…
I’ve noticed your having trouble with tuning on this one , it’s the nut is sticking
Pretty sure .
Radio shack has what’s called synthetic lube
One drop on the slot of each string will allow the strings to slide properly over the nut stop friction from sticking and allow the guitar to stay in tune for a while usually it will last the life of the string 2/3 months…try it you’ll like it lis worked for me gigging for many years
I use it in app my guitars 🎸
Peace bro great show lone time fan ….
I’m reminded how my generation of players played the cheap gibsons. Kinda weird thinking i’d never be able to afford a cheap gibson cause they’ll want to make these instead.
Excellent review! Thanks whomever got it and was kind enough to let Trogly’s review and document it. So freaking cool.
Not sure but in my opinion, your recent SG has better bridge sounds.
There's nothing more ''Gibson'' than a 55.000 dollar guitar who won't stay in tune.
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THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I LOOK TO A FLYING V AND A AGED MODEL AND THINK THATS IS REALLY COOL ......👏👏👏👏👏
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Love almost everything about that, but no neck pickup ruins it for me.
Honestly the ageing on all of these looks terrible. Not at all like genuine time-and-wear ageing would look. I doubt there's an original V on the planet that even has that much age related wear and tear on it. It's just so totally overdone. It looks like someone dragged it behind his vehicle when he went off-roading in a plowed corn field.
I just do not understand this fashion thing of the aging... my guitar is new but seems to be not... it is ridicolous... is like giving a fake medal of honour to the people who has the money to buy it... the medal of honour must be earned on the field not bought
Relic’d guitars are so lame
Totally agree! Looks terrible to me lol
Hell of a lot better than the strummer tele though...blech
@@russellkane9439 yes, relicing is stolen valor!
1) Big like for the "first fret neck depth" t-shirt. Funny thing, I always skip that part, but the shirt is very cool! 🙂
2) The "skull" knobs look more like Darth Vader to me 😛
Pickup ring looks to be molded using a silicone mold. Does it smell like shoe polish?
can you answer my question about the cs356 ?
That is cool wit wit a bigsby
The rubber leg grip is unnecessary anyway, if you're upset because you can't play your flying V sitting down, you need to consider if you bought the right guitar for you.
A little expensive but it's pretty cool.
I play sitting down a lot do to a motorcycle accident so a V is about the toughest for me. I can play them like a goober. As for as relived guitars it is done very well, they are just not my thing. I don’t mind old used guitars, I just don’t like the idea of faking one.
Disappointed Trogly didn't briefly get a reverse Flying V on camera to call a Flying A, for shits and giggles.
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